Got a very helpful and simple tip that dramatically improves the experience of the LCP2 at the range as an owner of one. Purchase and use the extended mags that Ruger offers for it. Makes a world of difference. Gives you a full four finger purchase on the firearm. I purchased two at first to try them out and ended up purchasing several as they are all I use anymore when shooting at the range or carrying. Only time I use the stock mags is when my clothing choice has a higher propensity to print.

Seeing no love for the db9, upgrades (gen4) on it makes it my fav. Better trigger, lock back, plus p, sights, great firearm that diamondback has made MUCH better. Complaint of course it kicks I've put bike intertube on grip, helps lots. Good review

@terryr.t.2113

2 жыл бұрын

Bike inner tube here also!

@ahumanbeing6875

8 ай бұрын

Is there a way to make the magazine release easier? It is amazing though.

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

​@@ahumanbeing6875work on it!

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

I like the DB9. With a bit of attention to deburring/smoothing things out!

The db380 gen 2 is a great little carry. I've shot alot of rounds threw it and never once had a malfunction.

Paint the front sight of the LCP II and you can really pick up the sights much better.

@dustycover3015

3 жыл бұрын

I painted my front sight with bright orange nail polish, back sights with yellow nail polish. Covered both sights with clear nail polish to make everything last. It works great.

@terryr.t.2113

2 жыл бұрын

Can de-grease and paint both front and rear! Don't need to paint the FULL area of the sights! Just a few/3 or 4 'grooves' near the top.

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

​@@terryr.t.2113Depending on your preference/ eyesight!

Db 9 is not a range gun it's a save your life gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 9m in a small package. I put my LCP in my drawer!!!!

agree 100 percent I bought a Ruger RC9 and had a lot of trouble handling it on the range. I recently sold it and now carry the DB9 and am very happy with it. As you mentioned the lack of bullet capacity is the only drawback.

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

Extra mags!?

Neither needs a holster they both have options for a clip that mounts on it tuck it in your waist band and go they are super comfortable i often forget i have it even if my shirt comes up no one sees it on the ruger

I been carrying the DB9 Gen 1 for nearly 15 years. Love it. It’s my back up or if go to gym and not so crowded places. Will carry it solo 3000k rounds through it a few hiccups. But keep it clean it cycles great.

I chose the DB9 just because I already had 9mm weapons on hand. Very happy with my choice so far!

I'd take that Diamondback DB9 G4 any day all day over that Ruger. Just not a fan of the 380 ACP. I know it works for James Bond, but it's not for me. I carry a Kahr PM9 with a Crimson Trace Laser. I love it! A lot more expensive than these two though. Shooting those pocket carry guns reminds me of the time I was at my gun club and there was a guy sighting in his lightweight 300 Win Mag Mountain Rifle getting ready for an Elk hunt. He told me, "This thing is only good for 2 things, carrying, and killing." "It is no fun to shoot!"

Have owned both, I sold the LCP to my dad and bought the DB9 G3 to replace it. The LCP kicks in the palm of your hand like a .38 special, is just a little too small for my hands, and the magazine release is very easily engaged while shooting which causes the next round in the mag to not chamber (creating a tap-rack situation, which is harder with a tiny gun). Oh and .380 ammo is twice as expensive. The DB9 shoots 9mm of course, which I have and will always have plenty of. It felt kind of awkward and long from backstrap to under the trigger guard, but only at first; since a good bit of shooting and a lot of dry firing it feels good in my hand now. The recoil is definitely snappy, but less so for me than the LCP; it has more of a recoil impulse over my hand along the slide instead of straight into the palm of my hand. I am irked that I can't put night sights on the G3 model, but it's not completely necessary but a preference. I would never shoot +P ammo out of either, it's nonsense for guns so small, so that isn't a factor for me. Overall the biggest thing was the LCP 2 mag release engaging during fire, causing malfunctions. I trained around this and fired many rounds through it without it occurring, but I could not risk my life and carry this pistol because my training could wane under stress and the pistol could malfunction. Not worth it!!! Ruger needs to make heavier mag release springs available.

@BrassBashers

5 жыл бұрын

Also I never use any of the pointed extended mag plates on my pistol because they always print, either when I appendix or pocket carry; but I HAD to with the LCP to get a good 2 fingered grip. With the DB9 I use the regular plate; it's not flush or extended to a point like the new G4 mags, it's got a little lip that is flat on the bottom so I can get 2 fingers on it. The DB9 is slightly longer and slightly heavier in pocket carry, but not enough of a different to matter for me. I bought these guns for summer pocket carry, and will purchase a G4 DB9 because they are upgraded and only $230 currently 😁

@hkaszowi

4 жыл бұрын

so would you say the DB IS BETTER?

@bobsyouruncle8052

3 жыл бұрын

@@hkaszowi matter of personal opinion i would go with anything 9mm over 380 . the 380 is a very capable round , just for ammo selection 9mm is superior . John Browning never made a bad gun or caliber

@terryr.t.2113

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrassBashers - I can't deal with pocket carry! Gotta be canted IWB/OWB somewhere (3 to 5 o'clock) on the waistline! Would rather deal with a burnt butt cheek than a hole in a femoral artery!

@ahumanbeing6875

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@terryr.t.2113hahaha, this is a very good point. I’m rethinking my pocket carry due to this comment!

i have db9 gen 4 i carry during the summer months in a need gun situation you are not going to notice snappiness of firing gun as long as it works when its needed if 9mm too snappy carry a .22

The DB9 is definitely tiny for a 9mm...my father-in-law has the gen 3...its a handful but gets the job done. This gen 4 definitely addresses the issues of the previous generations...sights and no last round hold open. Diamondback offers a factory +1 mag extension on their web store for the DB9.

With those two guns it’s a matter of concealment nothing else will they go boom ? You could replace The TVnine with a SCCYCPX2 it holds 10 rounds very easily and is a good reliable gun

You should review the Diamondback am2 as well looks like a great little double stack. The db9 definitely seems like a great conceal carry as well.

No printing w/DB9 with the pinky extension if it is canted! LCP II take down pin can be removed with a spent cartridge rim.

I have both I'm a Ruger person but Db9g4 is a damn good 🔫

@kukolino

Жыл бұрын

I bet you drive FORD !

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

Don't GAS about the 'brand' as long as it WORKS!

Smallest, a kel tec .32 acp, maybe a good comparison, lighter option. ....Db9 is a striker fired, compared to the spectrum (taurus) also striker in .380 ....Glad to see so many made in USA.👍

I have the LCP 2 and love it. Also have the Ruger LC9s and love it. They don't make the LC9s anymore but would love to see you compare that with the DB9. Or at least the EC9s which took the place of the LC9s.

Hey I got a Taurus millennium g2 9mm. Only shot 3 rnds out of it. U wanna traid that db9 for it or that lcp for it ? I want something smaller

...I note Hegs complained about the LCP II sights....please note the LCP is an up close-in your face point and shoot self-defense item...very close encounters = just point and shoot...

@Hegshot87

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed and I do mention that.

@bill3085

4 жыл бұрын

Yea folks act like your going to be using it for long rang defense lol good luck explaining to the judge how you were in fear of your life at 50 yards. Yes it could happen but how rare is that ?

In this day of pocket double stacks. Is the diamondback db9 still worth it?

Thanks for sharing 🙌🏼

Just picked up a used DB9 Gen4 today used locally. Need to get it to the range. I did slip my hogue rubber grip sleeve from m LCP2 on the DB9, it works/feels great, Curious to see how that absorbs some of the snappyness...

Houston holster has inside waist band pancake leather holster like crossbreed but no kydex $20 db9 all gens

Good stuff!

Great review! You could probably use subsonic rounds for the DB9 if it kicks too hard and still get the stopping power of 9mm. I have a SCCY CPX-2 which works well for me but it is a little large with 10+1 rounds and heavy for concealed carry, fully loaded.

Ah, those funky pins on the Ruger, best thing to use to remove them is the lip of the magazine. It's the same method used for the Ruger Security-9.

I agree lcp-2 .. I do ankle carry as a back up with it

I carry mine with a iwb concealment express holster that was 30$ on eBay I carry this thing for around 8 hours a day don’t even fell is there.

Thank you!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

If you put a Pachmyr rubber sleeve on the DB9 it is much nicer to shoot. I have both these guns. Also the ruger is so much better than the Kel Tec .380 I used to have.

Thanks.

Those are my two carry guns for pocket carry!

The first gen lcp is smaller than both its only in 380

The real big difference is that the LCP doesn’t use stainless and the finish is trash so when you carry it often it will rust on you badly, the DB9GEN4 is stainless and the finish is very durable. Also the the LCP has like pre 1950s sights and a action that is exposed on the back so that all of your dirt on your fingers drips into it lol. All around I think the DB9GEN4 is the better gun in all aspects after carrying both for years. Ruger needs to release a version that is stainless and striker fired with actual sights for it to compare. The only thing I feel sucks on the DB9gen4 is the recoil spring is good for about 500 rounds of mild 9mm before it’s too loose.

Both are exelent pocket carry , whish its your opinion about , khar pm9

Put a Crimson Trace Green laser on that LCP2, and it's deadly from 10 yards in. I have the LCP2, the DB9 Gen 4, the Glock 42 and a Sig P-356 (with a green laser) and I rotate them all depending on the size of the pants pockets I'm wearing that day since I exclusively pocket carry. If I had to choose only one of them to carry, it would be the Glock 42, fits my hand perfectly, I shoot it the most accurate and the recoil is the mildest of them all. Afterall it's not so much what you hit them with, as where you hit them! I exclusively carry Inceptor ARX ammo in all of them, keeps the weight down, yet gives as devastating a wound as any of the hollow point ammo.

Have you taught her how to ‘pull and push’ to rack the slide? Great video, though.

I own both of these but they don't compare well. the DB9 is only a tiny bit bigger but more power.

Heg, so I've been eyeballing these pocket 9s for quite a while. Hows your experience with reliability with the db9? I've heard mixed reviews on it. Do you think the 1/3rd makes a big difference for pocket carry? I've pocket carried a bodygaurd 380 but not a lcp. Just want something I can trust and that has a little more juice than a 380.

@uglybuzzard4188

5 жыл бұрын

Check out the ruger lc9/ec9. Legitimate pocket 9mm.

@Hegshot87

5 жыл бұрын

So far so good. I have heard the same things so I was sceptical at first.

@gunguy8348

5 жыл бұрын

Victor Smith the gen 4 is great gun the first 2 gen stay away from them. I paid $240 for mine and 300 rounds so far no problems.

@bill3085

4 жыл бұрын

Dude get a Kahr pm9 mine is going on 15 thousand rounds I’ve not had one issue at all.

The only con I see with either is I don't have them yet lol

LCP-2 looks like a good summer carry.

@rickthompson1422

5 жыл бұрын

...have a couple...love them....highly recommend them...nice trigger, light to carry, compact...

@rickthompson1422

5 жыл бұрын

...LCP II fits very well in all pockets...

@jimvandiver2698

5 жыл бұрын

@@rickthompson1422 Even a shirt pocket!

@rickthompson1422

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimvandiver2698 ...they make an under the arm holster for them too...going to try one....

@rjherb5895

5 жыл бұрын

@@rickthompson1422 Who makes this holster? Thanks!

Put a green Crimson Trace laser on the LCP 2 and the accuracy goes up 200%, it still kicks like a mule, but so does the Diamondback DB9 Gen, neither is fun to shoot. I have both BTW. and prefer my Glock 42 if you want both accuracy and ease of shooting, put some Inceptor Arx or Leigh Extreme Penetrator rounds in the Glock 42 and the .380 is ballistically better then most of the 9mm ammo out there.

Is the db9 too big?

Lucky gunner channel said the ruger had a 8lb trigger lol

Slide stop for me on the LCP was not a slide release, at all. You couldn't disengage it with 2 thumbs pressing hard, have to slingshot this gun to reload it. Which I do anyways, but it's another gripe against the Ruger for me.

@budfans

4 жыл бұрын

thats ood my lcp i can use the stop as a slide release but i dont think ruger intended as a slide release

@BrassBashers

4 жыл бұрын

@@budfans I've heard mixed reports. Hickok had the same problem. I got rid of mine because the mag release spring is too light and too easy to hit. Imagine one shot in a robbery situation and then your gun goes CLICK. NO THANKS!!!!

@budfans

4 жыл бұрын

@@BrassBashers on mine the mag release needs a nice firm push I've tried to release the mag while griping and aiming and I can't release unless I intend too.. I just bought mine 4 months ago maybe the early models had soft springs and Ruger updated the design since

@BrassBashers

4 жыл бұрын

@@budfans idk mine was not carry ready. That was the biggest reason I sold it. 2nd was it's a .380 and I already have so much 9mm on hand. No reason to downgrade when the DB9 exists. I trained around it and learned how to shoot the LCP 2 without engaging the mag release, but it is not something I'd risk my life on....

Hegshot 87 Can I confirm something from you? You can't carry DB9 gen 4, 6+1 only 6 or the mag pops out or the second round is FTF? Thanks!

@bobsyouruncle8052

3 жыл бұрын

i carry 6+1 mine functions flawless every time

@t3r083

Жыл бұрын

I carry 6+1 all the time. Never had an issue

@bearmerica6668

10 ай бұрын

@@t3r083 Mine has been in repair 4-5 times. After a year they gave me a new DB9.

@t3r083

10 ай бұрын

@@bearmerica6668 can you carry 6+1 now?

@bearmerica6668

8 ай бұрын

@@t3r083 Yes and do.

Mrs Hegshot can shoot haha!

I have the db9 and I dislike it so much ... the kickback is crazy and I find it hard ... 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Who won?

The LCP 2 I had would malfunction if I held my hand wrong. Mag release spring was too weak. Had to adjust my grip and teach myself how to hold my thumb away from the mag release button so as not to engage it. DEAD IN THE WATER for a carry gun. Plus I got sick of paying 2x the cost of 9mm for one .380 pistol when I have 9mm laying around everywhere. Enter the DB9 Gen3. Just as light. The LCP2 was actually too thin for me. The DB9 has what feels like a weird grip when you first pick it up, but your hand gets used to it. NEITHER of these guns are for beginners, or your gfs/wives who are new shooters. They kick like .38 snub noses. Where they exceed over snub nose revolvers is in practical accuracy, with both pistols easily scoring full mag hits at 10 yard targets in quick secession. The LCP2 is capable of chest sized groups at 50 yards with slow fire, though it is very difficult with the milled sights; mine happened to be straight shooting otb. The DB9 Gen3 was capable of the same 50 yard shots, and I could even squeeze 5/7 on the 100 yard gong target. Outstanding for a gun that weighs 11 oz unloading and can fit it any man's pants pocket (women's pocket size may vary). So for me the LCP2 was not dependable for carry as the unintentional mag release will cause a dead gun... I carried the DB9 in multiple stores today and never felt undergunned (7+6) or uncomfortable.

@psteelman396

4 жыл бұрын

Btw everything that could be improved about the DB9 G3 has been dealt with the Gen4. 2 ounces more, but can handle +p and has all the other improvements. (Anyone who wants to shoot +P ammo in a gun this small is a blowhard.... hence the guys that blew up the early Gen Diamondbacks...)

@anuthabubba964

2 ай бұрын

?+p!

Db9 gen 4 is awesome I don't feel any recoil when I'm at the range and handles better than my shield.

@someguy5444

4 жыл бұрын

I get that your a tough guy but the DB9GEN4 kicks like a fresh Raped horse on nickle beer night. The slide feels like it’s going to shoot into your eye if you attempt +P or shoot European brand 9mm.

@prestonf4569

4 жыл бұрын

Oh ok maybe it does kick with that ammo .I used 115 grain ammo maybe that's why it didn't kick for me.happy shootin

@bobsyouruncle8052

3 жыл бұрын

@@someguy5444 come on lmao even my .44 mag with bear loads dont kick like people act out on videos . sold 10 mm because it is so anemic sad sad round they should make a db 9 sized gun in 460 rowland that would be great

@austingross72

3 жыл бұрын

Just shot my db9 from going from a lcp2 and let me tell you its like giving a hi five to andre the giant

Is the Db9 reliable?

@terryr.t.2113

2 жыл бұрын

Especially after a decent break-in and lube, with the right ammo!

Why are we comparing a 9mm and a 380 ?

Unfortunately, I have the db9 and have had a major problem. I really want to like the gun but reliablity is king. After the second time to Diamondback, it seems ok but I can't trust it. I have found my perfect balance in the Hellcat. I, recently, purchased the lcp2 to replace my Taurus TCP that has a false reset. I actually love the trigger on the Taurus but could be disastrous in a defence situation. After having the lcp2 at the range, I really like it.

Both of these guns are intended for only one purpose to save your life in a shitty situation where have no choice but use a gun to defend your life … range guns they are not ! So snappy is not an issue

LCP max tops both

Such it up!!! Comparing racking and recoil between a 380 and a 9. Last time I will bother with this channel.

It ain't a range gun!

I would take a Glock 42 over both those guns

Diamondback DB9 gen 4 what a disaster from all the you tube reviews I thought it was be a good pocket gun for ccw carry, i was dead wrong It checks all the boxes for being ok except the most valuable ones that you would want to count your life on., extra hard magazine release button you will never make the reload in time with the same side gun hand, push the hard to release recessed magazine button and magazine strip it, with your opposite hand, my finger tips are red and numb trying to get a simple magazine release to strip the magazine. Charging the gun to chamber a round the, recoil spring is so stiff, i had to charge it from the front serration to get enough leverage to charge the gun putting my hand to close to the front and the barrel for my liking. I cut the corner of my knuckle blead for hours, first time I charged it. the gun came shipped dry to the bone no lube what so ever. I find this troubling Glocks come already. greased. The factory 6 round magazine only holds 5 rounds, the mag will hold 6 but is too tight and the top round nose dives before going into the chamber.. I got the burnt bronze model a nice looking gun. I out about 340 dollars for this experiment, I would rather have a hi point than this garbage, this gun will get you killed, I wouldn't never consider there AR platform or any other offering from this company. if there peddling this crap. I waited till the 4th gen to try this debacle, i guess the other 3 gens didn't work either, the concept of this gun is a great idea, just the wrong company keeps failing at fixing all the same inherent problems. I know what I'm talking about have been around handguns all my life and was a LEO/ range officer for 10 years previously before. I would go with a Ruger every time LCP 2 or the LCP max, or Kahr CM9 Ruger max 9 even the old ruger P89 over this.

@tokkie4449

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your taking time out to explain. I've always wanted the ruger lcp II 380acp but I initially purchased the ruger lcp II 22-lr at the local academy since 22-lr was affordable and I really enjoyed it. I used it as a training platform for the ruger lcp II 380acp. The db9 was literally out of stock everywhere for a while, and I emailed diamondback just to find out about the db9 production status, surprisingly, I never got any response back. Even S&W or Ruger customer service would have emailed me back for any inquiries whatsoever even if I'm not their customer. Thank God I haven't purchased the ruger lcp II 380acp yet because I was on the verge of buying it, then Ruger introduced the Ruger LCP MAX. I'm just waiting for the price to come down and get one. Thanks for your detailed contribution.

You are not welcome in cocoa beach...

This is like comparing apples to oranges. They are NOWHERE near the same.