Person applying stain to that bench : “You know what, I’m done”

@mr.kwamid-86_43

2 жыл бұрын

ppl have grinded he off ;) youknowwhatimean??!! ;) ;) ;;))

@23sleng

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing happened to my garden fence. I got too hot.

@ericperalta8949

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@1989eol

2 жыл бұрын

Well sometimes... ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! fucking clouds...

@dev4statingx90

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣👍

i think it’s worth mentioning too that the contact patch on a round wheel gets wider as you wear it down, which kind of compensates for the wheel getting smaller!

@jayteecollins1279

2 жыл бұрын

he mentioned it in other video

@joeyquinlan2274

Жыл бұрын

Good point but square wheels do this as well. All wheels especially F4 will get wider as they get smaller. Makes sense if you think about it!

The reason I like 56mm conical fulls is because London's streets are crusty af, and rough and crumbly. A fat square wheel hardly ever hangs-up, but is harder to skate, you cannot get away with not popping your board with clean snap - round wheels are way more forgiving but they're always getting stuck in cracks and shit.

@leeshobbyheaven3307

2 жыл бұрын

Try oj nomad 95a . Great on uk streets

@jezzadee87

2 жыл бұрын

99a formula four spitfires, sorted for this town 🙌🏼 round works for me 👌🏼

@sK_SK8s

2 жыл бұрын

This is my sale point too when I'm looking for wheels. Don't want to get hard wheels because when I go cruising it vibrates like mad

@mrjohnnyk

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I could never get away with small round wheels in LA, I preferred 56/54 squares.

@unai49999

2 жыл бұрын

I got two wheel setups, one for cruising and other for tricks once i get to the spot. Cruising i run 60mm 78a sqare. I'm more into transition, so runing natural higher trucks does not bother. But man, big soft wheels changed the game for me. Since got them I have not pebbeled into the shadow realm neither once.

ben, we need pdf show notes for informative topics like this.

@superswagger4531

2 жыл бұрын

qqq

@ilovekrust3444

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine a document of everything Ben has taught us we would all be masters of skateboard theory

@liviuczifrak5841

2 жыл бұрын

Try em wtf

the problem with skating injured is that it never heals and goes worst. don't ask why i know, I too am a 30+ skateboarder and have never been patient.

@cbdpiggy195

2 жыл бұрын

The one thing that helps is focusing on skating switch if you can manage with the injury

@mulldriftyr

2 жыл бұрын

@@cbdpiggy195 thats true, for months i could only fakie ollie it was less painful than regular ollies. Switch out of my zone 😂

@minedustry

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't fully healed from any injuries ever.

@ahunnitMyles

2 жыл бұрын

@@minedustry I fractured my foot and dont think I'll ever be the same.

@firefighting.responder

2 жыл бұрын

As you get older it takes longer to heal and longer for you to get up when you fall....

i'm always amazed at how good Ben is at skateboarding. extremely well rounded, and kills it in the crunchy streets of canada

@skatechatham

2 жыл бұрын

Look up his brother Ted, strong skate genes in those guys

@hardhittaa

6 ай бұрын

Is Ted his evil twin? that would be sick

@jonathanplack8661

6 ай бұрын

Many , so many are it’s a thing

I recently switched from round to square and I have to say, they lock into grinds perfectly. Stalls and grinds are much easier for me.

Spitfire tablets look so cool, thanks Ben for helping me accept my round wheels.

@guyfromthatthing1017

2 жыл бұрын

Love me some Spit tabs.

Good to see you again dude! Hope life’s treating you well! 👍👍 Edit: I always like how you point out how just the aesthetics can mentally make you feel more confident and comfortable riding. It just shows that your mental space can influence what tricks you can land sometimes. That’s rarely ever talked about, but it’s more important then most think.

I feel like since square edged wheels have more surface area it’s preferable to not slide out as easily imo. I’ve noticed when turning sharp going fast on small round wheels with a small surface area I don’t have as much control. I really like that you’re making videos like this touching on both sides because for rounded wheels I prefer them for technical skating like ledge dancing. Thanks Ben!

It’s always good to step back when you’re not feeling motivated rather than make an half assed effort. Great info too

Getting back into skateboarding after a 20 year break. Finding your videos very information as I put together my new board. Thanks!

Ben is my spirit animal

@something_in_the_radiator1665

2 жыл бұрын

lol your avatar. i haven't seen that image since 2007.

@colinhawks2469

2 жыл бұрын

Omg that profile picture! 🤣

@robertmasters01

2 жыл бұрын

Tom!! Where have you been man! You’ve missed so much that has happened in the world

Thanks Ben, Always a treat and an inspiration for us 40+ skaters still shreddin'! Skate or Die!

Learned a ton about dry wall from your videos and now loving the sk8 videos. Great job mate

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

I absolutely love that you confirmed my thesis on using round edge wheels with 8.0" trucks on a 8.125" deck. That's my current go to setup and I love it.

@anhiirr

Жыл бұрын

thats what i used to ride in my late teens early 20s. When i stepped up to 8.38 i jumped from 139 indys to 159. Bc i wanted more hanger lock in and i wanted to do cross hanger nose grinds. I wound up gravitating to the SFW mike anderson and conical full shape....bc it was the only way i was able to still get great pop and load up pop similar to when i skated an 8.13. Yet my bag of tricks plummeted as well from the 8.75 axles in exchange for faster skating, bigger airs, and more transition skating/all terrain. Still TBH if i were to ride a smaller board id probably ride ventures or thunders just for the lower weight and more "street" oriented feel and response. I never had more tricks on lock though than when i skated 8.13 and 149 thunders and 139 indys. One day ill grab an 8.38 ishod symetrical board since it has a smaller nose/tail than a typical deck...finally got a set of 144 mid hollows to return my popsicle skating to a more standard form. If i like skating normal size hangers i may try 8.35" AF1s with an 8.38 deck. IF not ill jump back to 8.75 to try the ace 60s. To compare them to venture 6.1s and the 159 standards. Stuck with 8.75" for so long bc id ride them on a 8.38 or 8.5" deck...then a 8.8-9.25 shaped deck or quiver up once i got the ventures. So i just really got used to riding trucks that size regardless of my board. Now that ive hit 30 i want to put a setup together to see if i can approach doing a wide array of fliptricks i once mastered just for personal goals sake. Plus it would be nice to have a few more GO to tricks at the local pyramid.

I stumbled across your channel recently. Dude, I really enjoy your content. Me being an older skater, 53, it’s cool to see how you go about setting up your board & all the info. ✌🏻P.S.It’s true, Canadians are so nice!

Glad you're back, "motivation comes and goes," drive gives you that foundation

I prefer the way round wheels look but after going back and forth the last few years I am definitely going with square. Smoother ride and better lock ins for sure, I haven't noticed a difference with flip tricks but I ride my trucks really loose so that might have something to do with it

I absolutely love these videos that go this in depth on a specific topic. I am also super nit-picky about minut details haha, this helps me save some money on the trial and error haha

This is why I have several set ups on hand at all time lol

@DelusionalYouth.

2 жыл бұрын

U sound privrlaged 😂😂😂

@memorysometimers3067

2 жыл бұрын

@lifted 710 Fukk yeah bro

@memorysometimers3067

2 жыл бұрын

Yep I try to get skate-gear for my Father’s Day, bday and Xmas or just treat myself to have a couple setups. But Haven’t had to buy bearings cuz I take care of them.

@DelusionalYouth.

2 жыл бұрын

@lifted 710 ok gramps, thanks for the insight. Go drink your Pabst blue ribbon or some shit.

@AlumarsX

2 жыл бұрын

@@memorysometimers3067 I tried to, but I just hate cleaning bearings

It's a great when Ben Degros posts.

@timar7905

2 жыл бұрын

it really is a great when he posts

Started watching the carpentry channel to learn some techniques and here I see you skate too. Rad to see you ripping in to your 30’s and thanks for the content!

Anwsome content! I'm new to the channel but I already seen alot of your videos. Thanks for what you doing and keep ripping with your skateboard 🤘🤘

Came here for knowledge even though I'm on quad roller skates, very helpful. Thanks!

love your videos Ben. I always want to go skate after watching, but you're right about knowing when to skate when you're old, injured, or both. its the worst when you still feel young, but you're body has already taken some beatings. im 30 and usually feel good, but with my various ankle and knee injuries over the years, i have to know when something's not feeling right and take a few days/weeks off. it's hard, but knowing the balance is key. sometimes you gotta push through the minor injuries, and sometimes you just need to sit at home and watch skate videos lol

This gives me a lot to consider, that I’ve never thought about before. Thank you

You can never go wrong with the formula 4 classics. In my humble opinion the best wheel hands down. I tried the conicals and the radials but I didn’t like the way they affected my flip tricks. I went back to classics and it was the best feeling ever. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Awesome review Ben.

@stt3z

2 жыл бұрын

This is so accurate when I try to kickflip with conicals I legit sometimes don’t even pop lol but with classics I get a snappy pop and idk whats behind that but classics def do work better for flips

@ElCapitan88

2 жыл бұрын

You’re making this up right?

@FuccTheGovt

Жыл бұрын

@@ElCapitan88 yeah F4s are trash

@poppanuge5478

9 ай бұрын

You haven’t tried the bones x97 formula yet then!

Good info! Just like you i hate the look of the tablette wheels on my setup. But now you convinced me that it’s more than a weight and psychological thing !

Can't lie, this has me putting my F4s back on. Thought I fell in love with Conicals, but now, I think I'll try old faithful again.

WAIT A MIN, your Vancouver Carpenter! I just watched a video on how to patch dry wall with joint compound.

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

🤣 it happens

@AlyxCouch

2 жыл бұрын

@@bendegros Youre a well rounded guy!

@BrianLeverett

2 жыл бұрын

He’s not square!

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

😂 I see what you did there

You always give the best analyses.

I just thought about those two different kinds of wheels today and couldn't decide. Thanks for that video 👌🏼

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

I thought about an old video Ben where Ben mentioned the duro of the spitfires and this drops. Neat. I appreciate the comparison videos.

I can recommend eccentric single leg squats on a slant board to rehab patellar tendonitis. I had it for about a year but was able to get rid of it with this exercise and progressive load. Hope this helps.

Another great vid. I have noticed when doing 50-50s on curbs or coping, I pop out way more with a rounded wheel. There is definitely a difference in being able to lock in with more square wheels. I've also noticed that powerslides seem to be easier to get into and control with square wheels. Same time, I slip out less on transition with the more square.. Feels like there's more traction. I'm open to new stuff, but I guess I'm in the square camp. The easier it is for me to turn the deck over with the rounds, the more I land primo or magically end up primo with the edge of the deck in my shins. Keep making videos. These are great.

Even when you're 'gone', akin to time travel, you're there to answer my questions of the future. Thank semi-retired skate KZreadr. Hopefully you do Just Keep Skating.

Great insight. I am currently riding the OJ Mini Combo Elites. I believe they are supposed to be an in-between round and square. First time on OJs and I am really enjoying them. For the shoes, the Tyshawn's have proven to be the best for me. I just picked up the new Lows but haven't tried them yet. I definitely understand the knee issues. I now wear a knee sleeve for my workouts and skating and that has helped a bit. Awesome session. Stay Rad Sir.

OJ Little Doodies wheels were like the pinnacle of roundness in wheels. Literally spherical lol

Been on my Tablets for a while now, you’re right I do feel very stable on my board but definitely noticed worse flips and heavier setup feel. You made me want to go back to F4 Classics!!

another quality post Ben, always a treat hearing your feedback.

Wow, I literally made a Classic vs. Conical video like a month ago and had the same opinion on slappys and crooks. I'm glad I think similar to the legend Ben. Haha. Great video! Much more in depth then mine.

@n-wordheelflips2648

2 жыл бұрын

420 subs, nice.

@KevinNiceTry

2 жыл бұрын

@@LargePlanet thank you. I appreciate you checking them out.

Yo ben, fellow old guy here. Ive noticed my feet, knees, ankles and basically whole lower body in general, hate me when i skate vulcs. I feel way less wear and tear and my sessions go longer when im in a nice cupsole. I know you are a boardfeel guy, but your lower body will thank you if you switch! Ive found the adidas 3st.004 are the best of both worlds and highly recommend trying em out.

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

Got some Nike dunks coming soon :)

@adamf386

2 жыл бұрын

@@bendegros, right on!

@mulldriftyr

2 жыл бұрын

@@bendegros how possibly did you get em in 2021 ? haha i used to have some three years ago maybe but now it's not in my possibilities :B

@mfscriptz2647

2 жыл бұрын

@@bendegros please review them

@guyfromthatthing1017

2 жыл бұрын

Big time, suede cupsole mid or high; like moccasins with basketball shoe support.

Dude, love your channel, where I live in Canada it's hard to get flatedge wheels. Your rad, keep doing KZread!!!

everything I needed to hear to switch from square to round

Awesome video, Thank you Ben for your videos. Love your in-depth insight in to what makes us tick. Skateboard madness. I'm just about to try out some Sidecut wheels. Not 100% sure which side should be on the outside.

@vorpalblades

Жыл бұрын

They're cut on both sides.

Awesome vid Liked your style and the tricks you did in that park

I got jumper's knee too. I had an mri before covid and just an couple weeks ago and its gotten worse. A piece of cartilage tore partially from the front top (mcl), poping in and out behind my knee cap then tore off and went into the swelling behind the knee. The thing thats helping is resting with legs up above the heart, against a tree for example every 5 hours to allow draining. And weight training, lunges, backwards leg lifts, keeping the muscles around the knee strong to support it when jaring skateboarding against and into ledges and curbs and stuff. It only happenes to my front knee after lots of kickflips and slides and grinds. And compression socks and tensor knee brace with the side supports and knee cap cut out when needed helps.

Lots of detail, thx for the knowledge bombs. I still like my lock ins :)

been skating for ever:) never knew about this great info thank man

Very important subject!!! For a few month i just ride with classic f4 101, i have a conical 52mm 99du to try but i will probably go back to classic. I like to try but i begin to have the same setup all the time.

Great video Ben. Thanks

IDK ever since i rode 99a mike anderson SFW wheels back in 2014....ive never stopped riding that shape be it any other brand that offers a 99a-101a conical full shape. Those wheels/shape contact patch were a complete game changer for how much wind-up....POP explosion pop i could load up on bs 360s and full cabs. Paired with bones med or bones hard bushings for an ultimate POP/platform off the run of your deck's nose/tail....insane ollie impossibles etc...The weight, contact patch, shape etc was just perfect for bs360s. Really makes the board feel stable when its spinning for 360 variations or big spins. Also they really encourage you to skate FASTER so much stability and confidence inspiring feel with a conical full wheel. They just make you want to really carve and slash up the park. Set up for some nice tricks etc they make every aspect of the session so fun IMO. Including powerslides

come on mannn, we need these high quality well informed videos

Glad to see all is well!

Well @BenDegros, I have been going through some wheels madness too recently. From riding square wheels for quite a while now but in different sizes though I have noticed that mostly the riding surface affects the flipping of the setup quite a bit. What you mentioned that a round wheel would be easier to tip is related to the skinnier riding surface in my opinion and not the round edge. Because of a narrower riding surface the edge of the riding surface is further to the edge of the board which has an effect fot tipping your board an a tre flip or other flip tricks. Also the thing about crooks does not make sense to me that a round edge makes it easier to crooked grind. It is rather the riding surface again which allows you also o pinch better. Those are only some thouhts that went through my head recently. Cause I did not have problems flipping my board or crooked grinding on OG-classics. But I have tried the 55mm and there I have noticed quite a change for my flip tricks due to the weight and width of the wheels. Why don't you try to make a video on big wheels and flip tricks. You can try on 55mm classics and see how that effects your flip tricks and pinch though :)

@60napik

8 ай бұрын

I think the same way

I’m trying to skate through my planter fasciitis at 42 it sucks ! keep it up ben 👊

Wait for the motivation. Beautiful.

So stoked at how good you skate at your age!!! Keep it up!

ben you killed that park just hit everything you saw and good to see you hyped skating

Always wondered how you haven't done a video on that already :D Nicely summarized :)

Solid pros and cons - loved the vid

I definitely skate round wheels for sure. I’ve been skating bones 53’s pretty much all my life and it helps with my flip tricks and with doing crooked grinds.

The video we didn't need but we all secretly wanted!! Thanks Ben

Great content as always ! :)

Prod mentioned that with the classic shape his tre flip is a little better

Picked skating back up a year ago and went with the conical fills. Have no reference but I like them. Gonna have to try some regular rounds to see if I notice anything

@alexmiller5146

2 жыл бұрын

I just started skating again about 10 months ago after a 10 year hiatus, so I’m right there with you! I skated classic shaped wheels for a few months and switched to conical fulls after that. Definitely lost some consistency in some flip tricks but gained some consistency in longer grinds. I’d say the difference is negligible in the short term but definitely noticeable over time as you look back at your bag of tricks as a whole. May switch back to the rounder shape for my next wheel. I also think growing up skating the skinnier rounded wheel plays a significant part in this discussion.

I just seen some SB Blazer Mids and I’m hyped cause I just got the black and white ones. I think they’re my new go to shoe.

I started with some 56 mm Spitfire conical 99duro 6 months ago. I believe they are 52's or 51's now lol I need to change my set up. I do rotate my wheels however just so they can wear down evenly. My next wheel set is definitely gonna be some 56's again.

@BrianLeverett

2 жыл бұрын

How often do you rotate?

Best skate channel around! Cheers from Brazil 🇧🇷

@bendegros

2 жыл бұрын

🙌

Great video as always!

I love Ben's channel. It's very motivational.

Excellent explanation sir xx

I like the blazer high og and mid sb. I have a couple QS pairs of the 77s so Indig those too lol. I dont have any lows. I need the ankle support anyway. I tend not to wear my lows if I am skating a lot. Its something to get used to

we missed you ben

I use spitfire classic 54 mm for a year now and they have radial shape now; round on the outside but squared off on the inside with wider riding surface

Currently I have round wheels but I'm gonna try the square ones. Your Clips motivate me keep going thumbs up.

Im on 52mm Spitfire Radials and I love them! I couldn’t do the 53mm tablets so I use those for a diy camera slider. The Quantum bearings are also doing great, I definitely have more speed and momentum with that combo 🤘🏽

@ToniLovesSkateboarding

2 жыл бұрын

Oh! And that Nollie back heel on the euro was, as the Easter Canadians would say, Tre Magnifique! 🤘🏽😅🤘🏽

I have spitfire f4 classics 101a. I like them a lot but they're a bit slippery at some parks. Been thinking about getting conical fulls or something just to see how I like them. Thanks for making a vid on this topic!

@AlumarsX

2 жыл бұрын

99as should be less slippery

Love your videos

Ben makes my brain expand with skate knowledge.

Like how round looks but love how square performs

that one switch fs flip 😳👀. Your sw fs flips are better than ur regular fs flips). Great wheel comparison too

I switched from bones v1 to spitfire tablets. They lock so hard into coping I struggled with them at first. On crooks I hate them because your have to push harder. But they grip a ton on metal ramps to prevent slipping out. I want to go back to curved wheels but tablets would be my choice for transition

Man, I hope i can skate like you at your age!!! Nice bag of tricks tough

never even noticed this till in high school I saw a kid wit square wheels, thought they looked so much cooler and now years later currently skating some Ricta Clouds, good conical wheel for all around

currently skating spitfire conical fulls..i usually ride spitfire classics and I too agree that my flip tricks are slower and harder to flip.. but skating on a hlafpipe is more stable and grinds or stalls are easier to hold. IMO skate round wheels for flat ground style and flat wheels for pools or vert. again in my opinion... GR8 vid Ben!

Thanks Professor 👍

I don't know if it was just a bad batch, but the last set of spitfire (round) classics I had were a nightmare to get the bearings in and out of no matter how many times I did it. Picked up a set of conical spitfires recently and it was like night and day.

@0Failure00

2 жыл бұрын

I have two sets of Spitfires and they're both tight af. Super hard to put bearings in. I think it's just normal.

Good review.. Im going to buy the blazers now.. lol...

New video! Made my day!

excellent explanation of stuff I have never thought about before! One thing though... who is responsible for the finish on that bench? My OCD is killing me :)

Ben! You should purchase some footprint gamechanger insoles. They will help with your recovery / preventing another injury.

Never thought of this as far as wheels locking in for crooked grinds. What do you think of the bones V3‘s as far as being a good roundness to lock into crooked grinds?Or do you prefer spitfire classics?

Lets talk about Satori Wheel Movement 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

What do you think makes more difference on the grippyness of the wheels, the durometer or the contact patch width?

A better tipping point on classics for flipping but you're better off with tablets or conicals going down stairs and gaps because I'm sure without classics flipping the board isn't much of a problem if you have the trick youre tryinf locked so I'm sure it's not a huge trade off, I'd rather a bigger square riding surface for a higher chance at riding away down stairs and gaps with the less tippiblity upon impact if you land off at all lol. I hope that made sense.

Only tried stand street so far but very intrested in the tablet shape. Round prob better for tricks. Square for riding in gonna assume. Thanks for ur vids. Very str8 foward and informative. I ordered some nano cubics to try. Seem like a great all purpose.

I like this one, a lot of the physics takes in this one seem pretty good. But like you admit later, it might just be your perception. Like the square edge meaning more friction for grinds. That would be true theoretically - if you were making perfectly flat contact between the wheel and the grind surface - on both a y axis and a z axis - but that's nearly impossible. You're making contact with a very limited area on the wheel, because you're not going to be at a perfectly 0/90 degree angle - and unless that angle is perfect, it's going to be pretty much the same with either shape. I think most of the other stuff holds up tho, especially easier flipping. Probably easier to do railstands/primo stands with squarer wheels, possible one wheel manuals as well...I tend to associate them with freestyle tricks

A lot of times jumpers knee is relieved by loosening up the IT band and quadriceps with stretching massage or foam rolling. Try getting a massage to your legs, ice when it's sore and foam rolling with deep breaths Ben.