Ben Degros needs to be in on this conversation.

@sk8mafia214

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely! He’s helped me a lot with paying attention to my setup

@memorysometimers3067

2 жыл бұрын

“..fingers of flat” !!!! 👍

@fingerboards8405

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@foreroa

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, but I'm pretty sure Ben learned a lot of what he knows from Dr Paul's write ups... including the term "fingers of flat".

@SigHDucK5

2 жыл бұрын

When you have 1 deep nerd talking, everyone is in awe and thinking. When the dialog begins with 2 deep nerds, that's when ideas really get flowing. (Or everyone else tunes out LOL)

Yall need to get Ben Dregos on this show! He's no pro, just your average skater.

@radio-friendlyunitshifter4670

2 жыл бұрын

His brother is a former pro and Lakai Canada rider, so I’m sure they could get both of them on for that reason alone

@notoneperson6

2 жыл бұрын

@@radio-friendlyunitshifter4670 agreed !!

@jacklouerskates

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he goes super in-depth on trick and on how stuff affects ur skating

@thinkforyourself5672

2 жыл бұрын

Do itttt please

@kkricket1968

2 жыл бұрын

Get him in hereeeee

No wonder I can't ollie yet! It's 100% the brand of trucks I ride and absolutely nothing else!

This is something as a kid I never really thought about and how much these little things can affect the way you skate. We just got stuff we liked threw it together and skated.

@cheddarballs864

2 жыл бұрын

And never thought much into how harder some tricks were on our new setups

@tresfordays9644

Жыл бұрын

Same, never thought about it growing up, we all just accepted like “hey, got a new board, gotta get used to it”, now days I can set up a new board and feel completely comfortable cause I finally have consistency with everything I like to skate

you can lose ur mind into board ocd with thinking about this too much

@WHDRWN

2 жыл бұрын

deadset

@ChadRexlogan

2 ай бұрын

Im in the deep end 😭 I’m on my 3rd full setup up and they all suck

@ChadRexlogan

Ай бұрын

@@fasi247 I had a break through I still suck but I had a break through ,WHEEL SIZE.

@domersimpson2844

10 күн бұрын

@@ChadRexlogan just picked up a 20 year old board for 10 bucks on marketplace and im happy with it

@From96TilDeath

9 күн бұрын

Tell me about it 😂 I’m not as bad as before but I catch myself getting particular about my trucks. Now I just worry about if I can get them loose as shit

I could listen to this for hours man.

@Dav2112

2 жыл бұрын

Was just about to post the same comment, love listening to stuff like this.

@richardrockhound6554

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dav2112 its interesting to look at something we all know from the technical experience of physically skateboarding through a physics and engineering lense. For example the tight vs loose bushings impact on truck angles - we all know its easier to tre flip with looser bushings but (I at least) never thought about what's actually happening.

@benjaminpotts2097

2 жыл бұрын

Wooo 'skate-science' knowledge level up!

@stilton946

2 жыл бұрын

So relaxing

I do motorcycle track days and this is sooo similar to suspension setup. Everyone's body mechanics and style is different so there is no right or wrong answer. I love it.

@geeezhall5374

Жыл бұрын

There's a brand of trucks called Avenue that are suspension trucks. I love them.

Doc should have a skate shop where they list the boards with best option trucks for that board.

@From96TilDeath

9 күн бұрын

I feel like certain shop owners are pretty good about knowing size and options. The only place you’re gonna have real trouble with it is the mall 😂🤷‍♂️

Crob kills me. To the skate caddy “hmmm, gimme my wedge truck”

Rodney Mullen watching this: Well yes obviously.

This is a much watch. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

So I’m an Aviation Mechanic and hearing this is just music to my ears. I like my back trucks tighter than the front ones. I feel stable when I drop in a don’t get wobbles. Also in winter my soft bushings get hard and my turns suck. I bought super soft bushings to help out. It worked but they were super loose. lol The angle of the truck and putting washers under was also a game changer. Thanks Paul. I’m a nerd also ! Thanks for everything !

I’m happy to see that people who are much better at skating than I am still have these issues dialing in their set up at times

Love Paul Schmitt !!! Love how skateboarding is still all related to mathematics !!! I always loved skateboarding and as a grown up engineer, I love skateboarding NOW even MORE !!! Thanks Paul !!!

The pivot cup normally causes squeaking after a while. I found that putting a little wax shavings in it solves the problem.

@manuelmendoza6124

2 жыл бұрын

The wax trick works good. A little dab of dish soap works great as well

@cheothegeo2742

2 жыл бұрын

@@manuelmendoza6124 i'm gonna try that lol

@AlumarsX

2 жыл бұрын

Hasn't worked in my thunders with bones med. Might try the washer lol

@grutfrut5817

2 жыл бұрын

Did that just yesterday. My life is so much better now !

@matthewroberts6786

2 жыл бұрын

Squeaking comes from pivot cups. Ace Trucks don’t squeak, never. Indy’s-upgrade those pivot cups.

Super fascinating, really enjoyed this!

I was throwing washers under my trucks to make them turn with a lower “caster” angle for snappier turns with less lean. Sorta like a longboard type thing, but it would probably balance out on a longer wheelbase? I like snappy front turn and shallow rear turn- it just works for my weight and balance I guess.

the science of a skateboard ! i kinda needed to see this! thank you

Paul is a treasure, protect him at all costs

Man you 9 club dude's are putting some real quality skateboarding scientific interviews. This is a NBD interview. Thankyou fellas. Nice 2 know facts. Not just some random dude at a skate shop telling you some complete bullshit.

Love this stuff! About to try the washer flip with my Bones bushings.

I JUST put new Independents on my new DGK board and, god damn, I shredded the bushings by tightening the fuck outta them before "breaking em in." Lesson learned lol

Old fogies will remember the Tracker Sixtrack. Most vert skaters used it, and practically the whole Bones Brigade. But they didn't turn. Looking at them in pictures (don't have mine anymore), they were unusual in that the pivot bushing was bent on an angle, making the hangar effectively raked (?) All trucks that came later pretty much followed after Independent--Thunder, Venture, Ace, Tensor, the list is pretty long. Anyone remember the Variflex Connection truck? It was the first reverse kingpin truck. Very cool. And they worked really well.

@berniemackattack86

2 ай бұрын

Remember Webb trucks around 1999 -2002 ??

Glad he gave a shoutout to downhill skateboarding (11:00) and all the truck ingenuity going on in that niche of skateboarding. Seriously some of the most well thought out and creatively designed trucks in all of skating right now. Mad scientist type of stuff. Makes sense though, most downhillers I know are crazy gear heads lol.

@huntergibson9359

Жыл бұрын

As a downhiller that recently spent $500 on trucks, I can confirm this. The real crazy ones are Rojas, $1300 and they look spaceships.

38, just got back into skating after taking a decade off... After having salted for 20 years straights. (life, married, kids, got fat, the whole shabang!) Anyways, this is like therapy to me. Exactly what I need in my life right now.

@brendanlovestoeat

Жыл бұрын

Hope you’re still shredding bro 🤙

@berniemackattack86

2 ай бұрын

37 here I've had a cruiser board for the past few years but getting a set up together for tricks. Haven't really done much tricks since like 2012-13 on a death wish I was gifted and was later stolen. . Keep shredding bro 🙏🏽💯

Very interesting. I wish I had known all these variations back when I was skating daily.

Jeron must be 1 of the 10 people that still ride royal's on this earth

@TheWavetwister

2 жыл бұрын

The only people that ride royals get them for free.

@justinanderson3180

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWavetwister half the time the riders won't skate royals haha koston always had ad's riding other brands while on them.

@user-oz5xb9ed3w

2 жыл бұрын

i’m another

@Americansikkunt

2 жыл бұрын

I grew up hearing “royals are great” Is that true, or are they crap?

@jesusdelvalle8502

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO..true royals or orion trucks!

With regards to squeaky trucks, sometimes it's the bushings, but sometimes it's also the pivot cup. I just put a couple drops of oil on each pivot cup while the board is upside down and squeeze the trucks side to side to work it in. Squeak gone within seconds.

I started with tensor trucks especially the magnesiums because i watched alot of daewon song but still use them because im used to them but never considered how they felt they're just light.

This is the kind of talk needed, not the bullshit you hear again the skateparks growing up

roger is the only one that really understands prof. schmitt. the prof. is talking about wheelbase and kelly is trying to talk about width of trucks for flip tricks. and chris is just lost! Dubs is silent.

@steev1290

2 жыл бұрын

Dude yeah look at Rodger at 7:40 , Kelly literally didn’t understand what prof was saying 😂

@TimHesse

2 жыл бұрын

Well crib is calling his board a fucking paddle board…

@jeffli480

2 жыл бұрын

@@steev1290 It blows my mind how they know so little about the board they're riding, the one tool they're basing their entire income and life off of, and yet they're getting it done haha. I would trade all my technical board knowledge to be able to fakie tre like Kelly any day...

@Lionel_tig3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@steev1290 to be fair tho I get what kelly was saying he was saying in a hypothetical sense what flips best. May or may not be an answer. Like in theory wouldn’t a smaller board flip better? I think he was jus askin in theory but worded it dif

@steev1290

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lionel_tig3r yeah I get it. The only thing is that it felt like professor wasn’t understood through the ep and rarely was able to elaborate on his research

I like the weight and the wheel base length of a venture 5.6. The weight and the far wheel base it has maes for the perfect pop and float time in the air when I’m doing Ollie’s onto higher rails (especially for board slides). But I switched to thunders 148s because I like the lowness when doing grinds but not so much for popping. So I fixed the pop of my thunder by using a deck with a steeper tail. But I was having trouble with how light thunders are and it was popping way to quickly. So I switched to a 14.38 wheel base and it’s feeling pretty dang solid now👍🏼

@svnbit8408

5 ай бұрын

Did you have too much flat before the kick? It's been so long since I skated that I want to try thunders or indys, (embracing the suck anyways why not and it's been that long I used to ride 5.0s and 7.75 decks, going for 8.25 at least and remember the 5.2 ventures I was pinching fs crooks far easier) but I've found that most decks are suited to indys that they'll mostly work out and finding a deck that won't be dead pop on thunders is harder to find. Even just searching I think a lot of pros that ride thunders they're riding special designs and their retail decks are more middle ground. Frustrating.. did you find that's a consistent wheelbase that gives the deck a consistent kick characteristic that you're comfortable buying sight unseen? I was thinking of just trying all of the new tech, and a lighter deck, titanium thunder truck and wheels would be too light, that I'd have to find a heavy wheel to have the mass to flip or flick the deck, but that's just an assumption, I was waiting for titanium's to return and got lost again and forgot about skating. Don't get me wrong when I do get there I'm gonna fall in love again and my wife will be missing me a lot more lol. On the flip, I was stoked on the inverted Indy mids, but they're coincidentally the heaviest truck that I was waiting for the hollow pros to get some weight off, but in thinking for example pretty much any Santa Cruz vx or powerply deck and im good with indys due to distribution, aside from maybe tom astas decks that might come retail setup for thunders since hes the exception. I think manufacturing has gotten a lot better where single press or press referenced wood isn't the gauntlet of soggy pop quitters that used to plague me when choosing one. I'm definitely excited to try all the gimmicks out of the gate. stuff like vx impact sound like I can remove one variable that I'm going to need more than ever, pop.

The pivot cups are what typically squeaks loud. Put wax or some low viscosity oil in the cups and the squeaking will almost certainly stop. Knife lubricating oil or gun oil works well and you don’t have to take the hangers off like you would wax. Wax lasts longer though. Best option is wax when you set up and dab oil periodically.

@PhysifistEngineering

Жыл бұрын

Prothane suspension grease. Literally designed for this very purpose.

@anhiirr

Жыл бұрын

gonna have to try this out on my stage X its on 2 year old conicals and squeaks like a birdnest. But i kind of like it like an old ship

@insanogeddon

9 ай бұрын

Just simplest cheapest most natural soap shavings work. Or graphite powder is amazeballs to remove squeak instantly but gets messy rubbing it all over your bushings and pivot cups. Tool oils can degrade them over time.

The science of skating. Man everything that made me good was me being poor. The smaller trucks on a bigger board. I had ventures now I ride indies. I made a stop at thunders and everything he says is true. I need to make a stop at the skate professors spot and I can defiantly say I don't have grinds on rails like I did when I was younger. Now I'm a transition goblin. But this makes hella sense.

The squeak is coming from the pivet cup ...How do they not know this 🤔 Put wax in your pivet cup that little plastic thing opposite side of your kingpin KELLY .

So I’m an Aviation Mechanic and hearing this is just music to my ears. I like my back trucks tighter than the front ones. I feel stable when I drop in a don’t get wobbles. Also in winter my soft bushings get hard and my turns suck. I bought super soft bushings to help out. It worked but they were super loose. I don’t think people understand how much cold and hot weather affects your wheels and bushings. I like my bushings soft to really loose medium .i always change my bushings. Never stock. I was a die hard INDY guy ….i loved em. Don’t know why but they just felt soo smooth turning wise. I bought new Indy’s to check out the diff. It’s hard to try something different but now I can’t get used to INDYS ! Crazy right.

Best episode so far 👌

this dude is a legend, still have my original yard stick board..

LoL “angle gauge” aka LEVEL ! 🤣🤣🤣 pass me the lead. The vertical lead.

@berniemackattack86

2 ай бұрын

These dudes have been watching too much Theo von clips 😂

I love this guy.

Love these dudes

I found a set of vintage Tracker Darts and fixed them up recently. They are the best trucks ever.

When the Professor speaks... you LISTEN. So much knowledge in that man's head.

Professor Schmidt is bar none one of the most important people to our sport that isn't a professional skater. He makes it work and he does the thinking so that the skaters can focus on the skating. These guys and the pros we know and love don't have to know all this knowledge but they put all of his knowledge in praxis without realizing the delicate idiosyncrasies involved.

This guy is a genius, I could listen to him talk all day about skateboards

I’ve skated my indy’s for nearly 2 years, and my bushings have had no issues. Idk if it’s because I have really loose trucks or maybe I just don’t skate hard enough hahahaha

Need more legends on here before more of them die. Could you imagine how crazy a nine club with Jake Phelps would have been

I put white lithium grease on my bushings. Not directly on the bushings (although I did rub olive oil on them) I put The lithium grease on all metal surfaces that the bushings sat on. Turned out real great little messy at first but the trucks bend smooth without any squeaks.

@nukeman360

Жыл бұрын

just put a lil wax

After Almost 17 years,you can still learn something every day 🙏🏽❤️

I can’t wait for them to play hahaha

My board is a hybrid between Kelly and Chris. It squeeks like crazy, and it's always blowing out bushes 🤣

@Fortuna_716

2 жыл бұрын

The squeaking of from the hanger cup, put a little grease In there and it will stop

The fingers of flat is essential to me now, i only like maybe 2, many boards are 3. I once had a random setup and it ollied up hard for some reason, just pushed me up because of the angles and maybe a large nose? It was like it boosted me up! I know that setup is everything. I wedged myself into a half size smaller shoe, and now my 8.25 is like an 8. You: Try a steeper board, you might like it.

Ya Ben would Be a good one.. love his chanel.. swayze skates

i ride indys and bones bushings (hard). i had the problem of my board going left and right and sticking that way. i put my bottom washer back on my trucks like they said to. problem solved. thanks guys!

Love this!

So far the best truck with a good stock bushings are destructo, they doesn't squeek even after 6 months of usage. But i guess if you're not a tight truck rider. I usually tighten the trucks nut till the king pin is just nice at the surface of the nut and doesn't protrude out.

@jesusdelvalle8502

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO.destruco still around? Member tensor trucks...so WACK

I’ve been skating for 14 years and I‘ve never seen anyone get substantially better because they „fine tuned“ their setup. I’ve seen a lot more people who started thinking too much about their setup to the point where it affected their skating negatively.

@lamBETTERthanY0U

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This dude could barely skate on his best day it’s all just a gimmick. He’s wearing a lab coat ffs

@jphjphjph

2 жыл бұрын

I would say just sticking with a consistent set up will help your board feel

@dutchmaster2135

2 жыл бұрын

ishod is really particular about his setup

@foreroa

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that anyone can get used to any setup but certain set ups can make a specific trick substantially easier. For example I used to ghost pop a lot on nollie tricks...not understanding that I was using 55 mm tall trucks with steep nose. Switched to low trucks and all of a sudden ghost pop gone. Set ups really can make a difference.

@aaronkirchdorfer7779

2 жыл бұрын

@@foreroa what the hell is a ghost pop?

This guy is….✨SPECTACULAR ✨

This made me rethink every set of indys I ever had. I am going to try the washer trick.

@shitfer

2 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to understand where Paul says to put the washer. On top of the bottom bushing? Will the nut eat into the top bushing with no washer? Andy Anderson mentions in a video that someone did this for him. He couldn't explain it either. This stuff is fascinating to me.

@jj61051

2 жыл бұрын

@@shitfer Base plate, washer that bones bushings come with then bushing then the truck hanger top bushing then the nut with no washer. It looks a little weird but works. I like the bones hard mainly because I am a big guy.

@anhiirr

Жыл бұрын

it helped when i tried adapting the cylinder bushing which never took for me. I just stick with the conical bushings and the mids bc theyre the old stage 9/X height. The trick does work though if you ride the 55mm highs and a cylinder bushing but dont generally like the stage XI. Removing the bottom and if you have the old bones top washer they give in their sets lying around going no washer helps if you liked the old indy feel...though the reps say the washers genuinely keep the truck functioning as "designed" w.e that even means AS i see it it was made with a "NO hang up yoke" for kids that dont want to learn the hard knocks of air dropping into a QP/bowl.

While listening.... I feel the same spirit of the conversation about firearms. SO, many things can change the shot pattern. --- Building my first board.

We got you on the bushings. Just book our mobile skate shop for free to any LA County Public Skate Park. Prof. Schmitt is the man. A true skate scientist and encyclopedia of skate knowledge.

Squeaking usually comes more from the pivot cup than the bushings. If you put some wax shavings in the pivot cup, the squeak goes away.

super cush are bombbbb the clear ones

Paul is the best! Could listen to him forever.

I want to see his reaction to Andy Anderson's setup!

This reminds me of lows and high's which they don't make anymore because the width got so big they quit making lows. but you can still get forged. baseplates. given a few millimeters smaller. not quite the same as it was but.

@fernandoreyes680

2 жыл бұрын

Venture still makes highs and lows

@tatplug

2 жыл бұрын

Tensor still makes lows

@typerightseesight

2 жыл бұрын

@@fernandoreyes680 they all do but im 6 foot tall now and they only carry the 8 inch lows. and most shops on the east coast dont carry lows at all. they dont make them in 8.5 inch trucks and my knees hurt if i skate anything skinnier.

@typerightseesight

2 жыл бұрын

@@tatplug yeh, but only at shorter wheelbase.

It’s interesting to see street skaters talk about split baseplate angles for the first time coming from downhill where splitting baseplate angles is just basic 101 theory.

I just had venture 8.75 on a 15.75 wb. I ordered 8.5 ventures for a 15 inch wb just now. Switching from Ace/indy to venture was the best decision.

@anhiirr

Жыл бұрын

they simply just BLAST and powerslide like no other truck and its no debate just like how THUNDERS grind metal to metal unlike any other truck. BS airs and half cabs with ventures are just a breath of fresh air i never knew skating had waiting for me. So happy about the 6.1s from a 159 standard rider that cant ride/run the cylinder bushing/55mm stage XI.

Meanwhile Daewon be like: what are those bushings you guys talking about? 😂

Thanks really interressing

I also Skate Royal Trucks and like yourself i don't use a washer on the bottoms ...ever. I would strongly suggest using doh-boys bushings. havn't had an issue since

I have powell peralta biss size 8.25 and dgk 8.38 What trucks should I buy if I skate street and bowl?

Most probable case for Bushings "blowing out" early is the result of adjusting the bolt of your truck to your comfort first; before riding the truck as manufactured and "breaking in" a couple easy riding sessions. Install trucks and ride, afterwards it's safe to adjust(loosen or tighten) to your riding comfort. Whats happening is the new bushings have a steady force set when manufactured. That force compresses the bushing and is sort of "cured" to that orginal force. Therefore, if the bushings don't get broken in gradually, they will be introduced to a drastic de/compression stress too soon which will effect the polymer tensile strength, cause premature hairline splinter fractures, and the fracture will increase after a couple of session. Another way(pre-setup), to avoid the stress shock, is to loosen the bolts all the way and leave decompressed for a couple days then adjust. In short, the bushings are made of polymers and have a tensile and glass transistion index which keep it/polymer linkeage stable and the material molded until the physical properties of the material are subjected to its stress max/min e.g. place the bushing in the freezer for a day and apply the force, they will crack. Add excessive heat near the melting point of the polymer and they will be like gummy bears.😁

@yes11889

Жыл бұрын

But see that's not the always the case I skated my thunder 147 stock for 2 and half months never touched that bolt once cause I didn't feel like I needed to I don't weigh lot I don't skate big drops most stress I put on the bushings is I guess landing Ollie's or maybe landing awkwardly so how did my back bushing explode? I was thinking either low quality bushings or maybe it's me idek just kinds looking for an answer that's why watched this video I want to try that double washer thing but idk if I should just get bones bushings I just know those will change how my thunders feel which Iove I didn't even know my bushings was spilt until I looked at it

Paul needs to be there to make sure pick the right boards when skaters choose new set ups you guys are sonlucky to have him!

Ye need to get a Sammy Baca episode!!

I want to ride a symmetrical board! One of my favorite skate subjects is personal preferences on boards. How'd the washer change go?

This guy could read the back of a cereal box and I'd be in!

put small amount of wax or grease in the pivot cup to stop squeaks!

@stschannelt1476

2 жыл бұрын

I hate squeeking thanks man bear! 🐻

we need a lesson on how to get rid of squeaky bushings...chris cole said use some powdered graphite. im using thunders and the squeaking pretty hard. i love tight trucks. riding thunders with some indy hard bushings ...just put them on.

@kentma1

2 жыл бұрын

You can rub wax on the pivot bar (or whatever it’s called). Rubbing bar soap in it works, too.

@stevenewton6776

2 жыл бұрын

Scrape some soap shavings in the pivot cup

@thebayharborbutcher9115

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe loosen your trucks a little bit too tight is a no go

I need to get some new bushings..

These are the best trucks hands down on the market! The Thunder Titanium lights i have the 147's also i own the Independent forged titanium 144's both are amazing trucks lol had to have them both! Btw my Thunder titanium lights 147's are customized with all custom titanium hardware from Japan! Here's what's on the truck? It has 1 top titanium bushing washer cup, and it has 1 bottom titanium bushing washer cup/2 Titanium hollow kingpin's/2 Titanium kingpin nuts/Titanium 7/8ths Allen key hardware/4 small titanium nuts that screw on the 7/8ths hardware /4 titanium Axle nuts/Tekton Precision-Profiled XT Steel bearing Spacers/Bones hard bushings/Riptide pivot cups/Bones Swiss Ceramic bearing's/Powell Peralta Dragon Formula Green Dragon 52mm wheels. The titanium hollow kingpin was installed by my local skateshop if anybody interested in buying a titanium hollow kingpin that's actually hard to get! in matter of fact the only comapny i knew that made them were theeve came in a pack of 2 and they were expensive i used to buy mine on Amazon but they are discontinued now. the link is below they will be shipped from japan! stoke-shop.com/collections/all/products/stoke-titanium-kingpin

it's so true how this all works lol I hate skating my friends boards as they all mostly rode ventures and spitfire wheels also the bearings can throw me off. I order ricta wheels, transit trucks, reds and a dgk deck. a lot of people won't know what transit trucks are but for me they were solid as sh8t and locked in my grinds better.

@heroicsquirrel3195

2 жыл бұрын

Are transits the ones that came with reaction completes in the uk years ago, i swear i used a set as a teen?

@versnellingspookie

2 жыл бұрын

I cant even find that brand, but in another video Andy Anderson says why he rides mini-logo trucks; because they're tuned as a 'beginner' truck, very loose and good for quick turns. Also, they're shaped to lock in to grinds. Maybe thats why those transit trucks worked so well for you?

I've been riding a Shawn Hale Birdhouse 8.5 with 149 indy's since September last year and I would in fact like my ollies to pop earlier. Gonna try a flatter board first then move on from there.

@thinkforyourself5672

2 жыл бұрын

Same setup here bro lol. Dixon or Walker 8.5 Birdhouses with 149 Indys. Bottom stock indy washer, Top Bones hard Bushing with both washers on. And 54mm Spitfire Conical Full or Bones STF 54mm V6. I have to say I like the shape of the Conical fulls more than any other wheel. What size wheels are you riding? And stock bushings?

@thinkforyourself5672

2 жыл бұрын

One more thing since it sounds like you like the same setup as me. Try a Welcome 8.5 Ryan Townley deck. His boards are all 8.5 and his personal shape. They're incredible and flatter than what you're riding now. I think you'll be super happy if flatter concave is what you're looking for.

@SoilentGr33n

2 жыл бұрын

@@thinkforyourself5672 53 mm SMLs conicals 99a I think? I don't want to go smaller wheels because shit streets around here and man do I love carving indys, that's why I figured I'd look for a flatter board first with the same wheelbase. Aftermarket orange cylindrical indy bushings. I always pick a spare pack and there were rumors that stock indy bushings were cheaper than aftermarket ones? so I swapped them out and kept the stock ones are spares. Last setup I had was a Globe G1supercolor 8.1 complete with tensors. I was picking up skating again after fucking 17 years so I figured that would be fine and it was. Getting on top of 1.5 foot boxes no problem like my ollies came back in no time but you could tell this board was tuned. It's a 100$ complete sure, but it's got the right parts combo, it felt nice and the pop was snappy as fuck without too much force. Trucks exploded after 4 months so I loaded up with my current setup which is way heavier so I struggled for a while and I'd like to have some of that feeling back. fucking love skating an 8,5

@SoilentGr33n

2 жыл бұрын

@@thinkforyourself5672 I'll check them out for sure thanks for the reply

@thinkforyourself5672

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoilentGr33n, I actually really liked the few SML's I've skated. Same here bro. I quit skating for 16 years. Used to skate 8.0 decks which was big at the time. My friends skated 7.5 and 7.75. Now I skate 8.38, 8.5 and even 8.75s. Wheels I'm the same way. 53 or 54, nothing smaller. But definitely check out those Townley Welcome decks. They're by far my favorite shape of any deck I've skated. The concave is super mellow, the kicks are perfect for me and the shape of the board is slightly different than any other I've skated. They're awesome. Indy 149s, The Townley decks and 53 or 54mm Spitfires, Or the Hardline OJ's.

How about a wheel tech guy? Im geekin out on wheel shapes and im not so positive its a HUGE deal. On my 8.5 i have bones v6 wide cuts so the board doesnt hang over as much on grinds but obviously a .5cm wider width (2.5mm on each side) provides more grip and less slip. But not just that but the shape beyond the contact patch. The contact patch seems more common sense to me but whadddaikno🤷‍♂️😅😅😅 What is truly best for grinds?coping?powerslides/blunts?flips? Etc. I think it would be awesome to have tech episodes where we talk about the differences in gear. Have an expert on. Ask pros about their experiences we can all take something from it even anecdotal ya know

What do you giys feel about rucks trucks bushings i have the white stock bushings and they sound like i have a crack in the board.

Only thing I miss is Cross bone wheels I loved them miss them to this day

Only independent have kingpins that stay out of the way for smith grinds other than Allen wrench kingpins which strip. For that reason alone, I ride independent. And rubber riser shock pads reduce impact for drops. They need to start bonding rubber shock pads onto the trucks as standard practice…if even just a couple centimeters of padding

Ben Degros on the show!

AVE alien shapes, 55 mm wheels and Krux 3's... best setup ever

Ben degros the real skate knowledge goat. Get him on here

GET BEN DEGROS ON THE SHOW

Ok, everything you just said makes sense. Now explain Daewon Song with no bushings. 🤣

awesome content, thank you

Ya’ll should talk to Kevin Reimer from powell peralta, absolute DH legend and urethane guru!

We are all nerds for this shit and I love it.

Wait.. chris Robert's is a carpenter?! 5:51 never knew that!

@chrischarla424

2 жыл бұрын

crob day job reveal?

@Bb186fo

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrischarla424 I'm thinkin so! Lol

independent vert. thunder. street. venture. park. tensor. wood pallets.

So what board brands should I ride if ride Indys or Thunders?

I had these titanium trucks in like 2002 🤔 I can't remember what they were called for the lof of me, do any of you know? Anyways, I had the element featherlite deck and those titanium trucks man... Bro, it was soooooo light & it was perfect for popping huge gnarly ollie's. It had just the right weight ratio man! I think that the 56 wheels gave it the required weight just to be heavy enough but, also ultra light to pretty much do anything with that setup.

How did I not know about skate doctor. This guy is so sick.