RVC was in every martial arts magazine in the 70's/80's and became an epic figure in the Black martial arts community. He had the guts to face a young Royce Gracie at the age of 50 years old even though he could have just made money as a teacher and instructor. He lost badly. So what did he do? Did he quit? Did he tuck his tail between his legs and limp into obscurity? Nope. He figured he had more to learn and went to learn Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. He was already a successful martial arts instructor with a huge reputation and was humble enough to put on a white belt and start from the beginning when most men his age are ready to retire and go fishing. He then started entering Brazilian Jiu-jitsu competitions in his 70's! That's a true martial artist and warrior in my books.

@LupusRexRgis

6 жыл бұрын

assoverteakettle Did he really compete in BJJ? I cannot find info about it anywhere...

@jasonaaa5574

5 жыл бұрын

He also won many full contact matches.

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

Still laughing. Worlds Greatest Karate Legend knocked out by an amateur

@jquest43

3 жыл бұрын

@@raymondfrye5017 did you see that movie Kung Fu act he did that got him knocked out?

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

@@jquest43 Yes. It's in the above full contact video of him in Hong Kong against some European kid. He is really a clown act from the circus. What is even funnier is that RVC claimed that his style was CHINESE Goju.The Chinese are still laughing.

this video is GREAT!!! do u have any others to share?

That was a damn god fight! This was before the wussy rules came into play. These were the days where men where men and the sheep were nervous!

@FaiGurKungFu Sorry to contradict you (and no disrepect intended), but there must be more rules as we see the referee step in when the fight goes to the ground. If they were allowed to get on and grapple, attempt chokes, submissions etc, then why at one point does a whole crowd run in to separate them? Great upload. Thanks!

This is awesome! Way more entertaining than the UFC.

@Maharaaja.

2 жыл бұрын

Kung Fu movies also more interesting than a real fight )))

interesting how going full contact looks nothing like kung fu

It was crazy how Ron Van Clief kept going to the ground like that - with the rules of this fight, that was just wild. This was not a Judo or BJJ fight and when you can kick your opponent on the ground like that, this is what happens. Worst place to be if you are not a trained grappler and someone is kicking you in the head...

@raymondfrye5017

10 ай бұрын

There is a reason why he kept going to the ground. He wanted to show off his "BJJ training", but it didn't work.

@gamblingsmarter

5 ай бұрын

What kind of match is it? Whatever it is it’s full contact fs

So what was the first round?

Ron’s athleticism and speed is very obvious and the real deal-competing in these types of matches with low kicks and some ground fighting whichbita not clear exactly what the rules were. Was doing well until he tried to hot dog the low spinning sweep which I have NEVER seen work in full contact fighting

Man, this match is just like a "Lovers' Moon" kind of fight...they beat each other up, make up and go again at each other's throats...!!!

Guess it just goes to show my age but every time the ref breaks it up when they hit the ground a part of me groans. Nice fight both guys pulled no punches it was 100 per cent attack though had Ron not gone for that bizarre rolling kick he'd not have got blasted in the head with the k.o. kick. Still props to him for trying something like that. He's got guts.

Wicked ridgehands @0:28, a technique rarely used nowadays. Even with the pads, the weight of that whole arm behind the technique can check your jaw rather nicely.

You can still do grappling in a sense standing up (judo) and arm lock or joint lock someone. I do agree not to ever go to the ground in a fight unless it's just the two of you and you want it there (for a choke or break their arm or something).

@jquest43

3 жыл бұрын

Ket sugo

Where are the Chinese fighters? I bet they fought with tiger claw technique and choy li fut. Where is full video?

The commentary for this is just superb. I really don't know who they gotgot to voice this but he clearly knows nothing at all about Karate hahaha. Brilliant.

@raymondfrye5017

Жыл бұрын

I am glad you could see that. Guess what? This kumite was done in Hong Kong for the amusement of the Chinese community.

Good video Good k.o kick

@FaiGurKungFu then it did have rules. If it was a complete tournament, grappling would have been allowed, complete with elbows. The closest no rules fighting I have seen is "vale tudo" in Brasil.

thats always the case for arts that never fullcontact spar

I would like a clear and detailed list of the rules . Exactly what you cannot do.... Exactly what is allowed etc... Very gutsy stuff it looked like Thanks

@DW01

7 жыл бұрын

same here. Rules seem confusing.

Great fight…

Ron was cocky in the beginning and too sure of himself, but the guy would not be intimidated and kept coming. Ron got tired after awhile, and careless. End of show. Ron's got much better skill, but in this case the opponent used his courage to overwhelm Ron's skills. It's the man, not the style.

@sungodjrspot

4 жыл бұрын

i don't know what fight you was watching but i saw a kick to his head and i thought that was illegal. Ron had a chance to do it to him before it happened but he didn't.

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

Look again 1980's. Van Clief took several body shots with no apparent effect. AND he took several rights on the chin. It was when he tried to pull off that "capoeira" kick-to-the-head stuff that he was knocked out. He was never a real karateka, just some boxing in action and was still around as a clown, comedy act.

@markpang8847

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondfrye5017 I’d love to see your real combat competition(s). You don’t have the balls to put them on the line and will never truthfully understand or admit that you are a wussy. Real martial artists do not bag on practitioners. Good OR bad.

@raymondfrye5017

Жыл бұрын

@@markpang8847 Yawn!!! Listen up, wise guy! Long before you came on the scene, I was in Okinawa learning karate in school. Ron Van Clief and others were "students" of "Great Grandmaster Guru" Peter Urban,a "10th dan of American Goju". Van Clief was never "Real Goju". He was just some kickboxing, and average at that.

@wordeye

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondfrye5017 eclectic self-made mixture, yes, but very high level skills nonetheless.

,it was not getting out of hand and nobody was in the slightest danger because neither had any grappling ability and were wearing boxing gloves.That head kick KO was potentially fatal however,they had the rules arse backwards.

@siupakcat No disrespect received. The reason I say no rules except death blows is a basis for some rules as opposed to todays standards. As you can see this particular fight was getting out of hand and someone had to part the two fighters before it got really deadly. However they were allowed to kick and punch each other on the ground and this was not meant to be a grappling match.

they started out wearing head gear. them latter its gone why any one has the full thing can up load.?

Groin kicks legal. Wow!

What year was this?

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

70's-80's

nobody that wasnt a competive grappler knew at that time how effective grappling was in a real fight because no strikers ever sparred outside their own ruleset.Nobody crosstrained.

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

@Scotty Crawford training in a grappling art and a striking art is not mma and not effective.Sparring full contact involving striking and wrestling and ground striking is MMA,anything else is not.The ruleset makes the system,not individual techniques which may never have been pressure tested.

Groundfighting in thise days...almost Ultimate Fighting Championships

The announcer sounds like they pulled him out of a teacher's bar at the last minute.

Early MMA right here

@robertnewell4054

4 жыл бұрын

VegasTribeOfJudah .... I believe Ron Van Clief is the oldest fighter EVER in UFC. I believe he fought in UFC1or 2, and he was decidedly into his 50’s

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

1970's

@robertnewell4054

3 жыл бұрын

@@southtxguitarist8926 ....... I know that Master Ron went on to study BJJ .... not sure under who. I agree that it would’ve been nice to see him go against a striker first ..... but the Gracies stacked the deck purposely in favor of Royce. Thanks for the clarification 🙏🏽🤙🏽

kung fu is supposed to look like fighting not gymnastics

Fight kept going to the ground. most fights go to the ground

@mattmarzula

4 ай бұрын

Which doesn't exhibit martial arts fighting styles like the competition is tailored for.

What you can Ball shot in this .. lol ...Brutal that only move one needs to win this perfect the ball shot

They had KF in Yugoslavia ?

youre thinking of sanda,its not a style its a sports ruleset created to test kung fu and guess what,it looks like kickboxing with wrestling,no kung fu.

Theres hundreds of styles of kung fu...there are kickboxing styles also. Their appearance are not flowery....

This is just about MMA.

what it looks like is mma when you actually fight except for the fact that they never spar like that so are generally useless.Sanda is an effective method,the rest is rubbish as a training method

That was a bunch of wild bullshit!

Same style as Sugar Ray...PLEASE!!!

@woodie62

6 жыл бұрын

superstar1218 Yes! I was thinking the same thing throughout the fight. He had a little speed on him, but not near Sugar Ray's speed!!

and whats kung fu supposed to look like

firstly ,death blows is a nonsense term,you can potentially die from many strikes but none are sure things.THere were a shitload of rules in this fight,the most obvious being no groundwork allowed and obviously no match allows gouging and biting.The standard is terrible,there isnt a single bit of kung fu in that entire match or any other match in the tournament.

1:00 Damn!!!Is fucking Jackie Chan?

Lights out bro.

@jonesfredrick94

5 жыл бұрын

Jack Daniel Vithal yeah with a kick while he was on the ground

its virtually impossible to joint lock a violent stronger man standing up,its why all subs in mma are on the floor,except the guillotine.

Rons tech was ok..but he got careless after he through it...he didnt protect his head with his gloves,

5:40 judge is counting instead call ambulance

Finally he lost... about time. He won world karate champ 4 times in a row. And kung fu champ.

so its not relevant but you should know it in case??Thats exactly why you need it,as back up for when you cant KO the man standing or it goes to a clinch ,grappling allows you to stay standing,wresting conters wrestling where striing cannot.Intentionally going to floor is for a 1 on 1 attack only,nobody says differntly.Bites and gouges are not what youll be thinking of with a grappler mounted on you punching your face.Youll instinctively defend your head.

Kicking a downed opponent legal. Wow! Reminds me of Pride rules

Dear Kung fu....what the hell happened

I swear that was jackie chan

What a f**king circus that was. Comparing Van Clief to Sugar Ray Leonard is like comparing shit to shinola.

That's sad how Ron keeps falling on his back that would be ok if he knew BJJ in which he does now but in this video not good

@bjjnycgrapple7489

8 жыл бұрын

BJJ was not popular at that time. Only in Brazil and Japan

so kung fu is supposed to look like youve never had a days kung fu training in your life is it even after 20 yrs in van cliefs case

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

Van Clief took Kung Fu? With whom? Peter Urban in Chinatown?... as Chinese public's amusement for the Karate Komedy Hour? Hahaha!

them two wanted to kill each other lol

Excuse me, what's a 'death blow'? Is it a secret ninja technique?

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

Invented by Ronald Duncan and Stephen Hayes,LOL...StllLMAO.

Conan Lee Jackie chan look alike

your on the drugs lad,you can clearly see(your not blind are you) that the ref is only allowing very limited ground time,that eliminates half the fighting techs allowed.Death blows ,what is that even supposed to mean ?

These full contact fights were common in Hing Kong and it is telling that Bruce Lee avoided them like the plague.

@raymondfrye5017

10 ай бұрын

That is why showmen, like B. Lee, use stunt men. They avoid getting hurt like Stallone and Lundgren.

cro croatians ,best

The kumite

Just want to say that Bruce Lee NEVER did anything that came close to this and yet he is recognized as the GREATEST FIGHTER WHO EVER LIVED.

@furlong08857

6 жыл бұрын

Because he was a hype master and movie fighter . never mastered any art so he invented his own so he could be called a master . He was smart :-P

@HDsharp

6 жыл бұрын

no because he fought real streets fights with no rules, well documented, this tournament has rules you dummy, so you dont know shit about fighting, sports isnt real fighting, its a test of conditioning and favours the physically gifted as in the way they're built.

@IllustriousForLife

6 жыл бұрын

Shut up

@IllustriousForLife

6 жыл бұрын

Exhibition martial arts isn't as deadly as the well documented street fights Bruce Lee had idiot

@pehunter1

5 жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee wasn't just a movie star; he was an instructor to some of the best during his era. And the video footage of him sparring at the Long Beach tournament shows that he did know how to fight. Maybe you didn't see the fighting video. Jim Kelly, Chuck Norris, Bob Wall, Dan Inosanto and others acknowledged his fighting and skills. Only after he's gone have so many people begun to badmouth him. Very few would have or could have done this to his face when he was alive. And if you need proof of his teaching or skills, you can ask his main student, Dan Inosanto, who is still alive and training in California.

Kicking and gouging and everything. HaHaHa!

dude. MOVIE KUNG FU does not look like real kung fu. real kung fu was never meant to be pretty. holly wood ruined the true meaning of martial arts. this is what kung fu is supposed to look like.

Hmm... His students boast a good fight game..... I'm not sure if they are quality martial artist or not... Hadn't seen them in action yet.

OR AARON PRYOR !!!

@pancraselondon There were no rules in this time except death blows. these were not allowed. These were the good old days.

Completely irrelevant and random comment, but whatever.

Jackie Chan..?? 1:01

winner is from Croatia, Split

@LegijatMN

6 жыл бұрын

kako se zove nemogu dobro da razumijem kad ovaj na pocetku kaze njegovo ime

@evoimene5560

5 жыл бұрын

@@LegijatMN damir

@markosorgo7453

Ай бұрын

​@@LegijatMNmato vidović

@markosorgo7453

Ай бұрын

​@@LegijatMNiz Livna, bio je ravnatelj Osnovne Škole Umag

gouging with boxing gloves?

@Ssmdhebdb

2 ай бұрын

Dirty boxers have always used the thumb part of the glove.

that always happens ,wouldnt you think that the clowns would realise that the techniques arent practical from that evidence.They probably reason that kung fu cant be done with gloves on.

Kung fu means skill from hard work. whats your point?

A lot of people had fancy logos and titles but weren't really all that special when you see them fight. Very undisciplined. Not a smart fighter. Disappointing. Bruce had it right. A punch just becomes a punch, a kick just a kick.

RVC got the takedown defense of a 5 year old

@pehunter1

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, he didn't spend time learning much about ground fighting.

That yugoslav dude would have won easily in the first two rounds itself had it been an MMA. He beat the shit out of the americano.

@raymondfrye5017

Жыл бұрын

"Beat the shit out if the Americano"? RVC is so full of shit, it woukd have taken three days,just to get the stink out.

Horrible fight. Just a bunch of flailing about. No real technique. Van Clief was an arrogant SOB. He had no polish to him at all. His hands were terrible. Ippons and one step sparring don't mean a thing when getting hit for real. Ron got his ass handed to him b/c he went up against a kid who was not afraid or intimidated by him. Van Clief looked good in movies and point sparring but he was never that good when it came to full contact.

@sungodjrspot

4 жыл бұрын

shut yo hateful azz up!

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

@@sungodjrspot Sorry sungod. I am backing Ashcan above on this one.Van Clief was selling himself as "fighting black hero" when competing in tournaments and exhibtions. He made money fooling kids,teens and their parents. He made money offa fools.

It's almost like the early UFC but with gloves the early UFC didn't had gloves but it was more less the same ... I remember that Ron Van Cleef fought in UFC 5 or so and got Fucked up by Royce Gracie,. Gracie jiujitsu won over Ron Van Cleef Kung Fu bullshit.. but at least he turned a student of the Gracie's to learn their jiujitsu ... Today he is a more complete fighter an old one but better fighter today ...

@arindambanerjee3326

10 ай бұрын

That time he was 51 and Gracie was 28,so you can't compare,in his prime he can destroy Royce Gracie,Royce Gracie was a circus and entire Gracie clan set the rules of fighting in their favour,even fight with a 51 year old,Gracie family set their rules so that they can win the match,Royce Gracie should gave the chance to Ron van clief to strike and kick him first considering age and then he should apply his technique but Gracies had fear to loose,the biggest scammers in fighting history.

I think it's just boring!

marleysux are you blind .its pure kung fu from the kicks the stance and the quirky kung fu takedowns. kung fu

This was pretty horrid.

I never watched the entirety of this video until right now. What a wonderful surprise to see Ron's stupid ass get knocked the fuck out! It serves him right. Everything I've ever seen this guy do has always been showy. He fights with more ego than anything else. For all his accolades he certainly didn't have a lot of skill going into this fight, especially going down to the ground, when he has no idea what to do down there. A kick to the head is always going to be the game changer! Nice end to a really lame fight.

@bjjnycgrapple7489

8 жыл бұрын

Would be nice to see where you have fought and made a name for yourself. Easy to type shit on the computer. Why weren't you up in there taking Ron out since you want to sound so tough

@SenseiGerryValido

8 жыл бұрын

+BJJ_NYC Grapple I didn't realize I was sounding tough. Sorry if you felt threatened by my statements.. My statement was simply to remark on the fact that everything I have ever seen Ron do has always been with a cocky attitude. If you had read the post properly, you would have realized that is basically all that was trying to state. I wasn't there to challenge him to fight basically because I was probably a toddler up the time lol and no, I have not racked up any accolades from competitive fighting. I never made any claims stating that I was better than him nor that I was better than anyone else. In fact, I applaud people like yourself who are obviously into the competitive aspect of the martial arts. . That's just not something that I choose to do. Once again my remarks were mainly focused on seeing a cocky guy getting beaten. That is always good to watch because it puts people in check. Anyway, if you want to respond in an angry manner that's up to you, I don't have any beef with you man. Peace, and good luck in your training.

it never got out of hand and nobody was going to get hurt on the ground because neither had a clue how to grapple and were wearing gloves.Its the refs job to part fighters ,not 20 nuthuggers from the sidelines.what sort of a mickey mouse tournament was this?

@OakleyANDSittingBull

4 жыл бұрын

@scarred10, This was nearly 30 years ago. Please keep that in mind. It seems that they weren't expecting (as I wasn't) a murderous kid going to town on a respected elder... RVC wouldn't do "Mickey Mouse" tournos.

lol he got his ass kicked by Gracie in the ultimate fighting

@mongolchiuud8931

5 жыл бұрын

he was 51 years old at that time to be fair. lol

@cy4624

5 жыл бұрын

Ahhh yes the gracies.. the biggest scammers in the business who handpicked non-credentialed opponents such as a taxi driver.. Had opportunity to cross train ro give them advatangr then hand picked people that had no idea and never cross trained... those infomercials worked in the beginning but then they got their ass kicked over and over and over until they disappeared...

@raymondfrye5017

3 жыл бұрын

@@cy4624 More Black Belt Magazine Horseshit. The Gracie's kept saying they were Japanese jiujitsu until Sakuraba fucked them up in front of the entire public; a Brazilian laughingstock.

@arindambanerjee3326

10 ай бұрын

Royce was 28 years, prime Van clief in his 30s can destroy Royce in few minutes as Royce is an overhyped boring pathetic fighter

@mortgagefinancing5558

10 ай бұрын

@@arindambanerjee3326 Their is not much difference between 30's and 20's...he destroyed him because Ju Jitsu won...

Que luta horrível sem técnica sem regras sem respeito a arbitragem

I know Ron Van Clief's a legend in the martial arts' world, but that technique he did on the floor in the last fight of the video was not a very wise move.

The dude said he had the style of sugar ray n the feet Muhammad Ali? Same style as sugar ray ant sugar ray a boxer? He must be drinking. The mub the blood n the beer now he Jonny cash. 😂😂😂