1:45 🅱oii Tribe 👋

@av8973

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@robert9016

11 күн бұрын

Yea Boii!!!

3:15 I totally misheard that as Disneyland was incorporated The romans were truly before their time

I find it interesting that despite the relatively short span of Roman rule over Dacia, it's the only region that still speaks a language descended from Latin, whereas everywhere else East of Italy Latin has been replaced.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

The Geography is the key.

@popacristian2056

Жыл бұрын

Because the Dacian tribes were quite strong and resisted even after their temporary conquest by the Roman Empire, also to the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire and all the invasions until today forming the Romanian people.

@Dell-ol6hb

11 ай бұрын

All the Romance languages are descended from Latin, Romanian is just the closest modern language to Latin but all the other major ones, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Italian still descend from Latin.

@DylanPetrohilos

10 ай бұрын

Well, there are other small Romanian/vlach groups through out Eastern Europe outside of romania. But also the eastern empire greek was the common language…

@freebutterfree4872

10 ай бұрын

A lot of Balkan romanance speakers, Vlachs, escaped the Slavs and settled there too solidifying the Latin language there

1:45 BOI

@dv28l74

4 жыл бұрын

BOII* :))

@dr.vikyll7466

4 жыл бұрын

Damn Boii he THICC

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

It's weird how people in the comments are really fascinated with the name of Boii.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

@Hernando Malinche at some point yes I would like to.

@dv28l74

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory It is just a meme. But to be honest the video was very nicely made and a pleasure to watch

Very interesting about the Iazyges, great video!

@jameswhite7519

2 жыл бұрын

your videos are also very interesting

I love the BOIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

@JuanCanuck

2 жыл бұрын

For the BOIIIIIIIIIII’s

I love it when pre-roman peoples are given attention :)

Fascinating area, my uni Classical History course had a section on Rhaetia-Noricum-Pannonia combined talking about the Romanisation debate. Interestingly in these areas there's a gender divide in Roman culture: lots of men very quickly (especially compared to most places) switched to Latin names and clothes, but lots of women retained regional names and clothes. Theory is that a lot of these man had or were trying to fill new positions of local power and wealth opened up by incoming Roman government, but that due to the highly make dominated Roman culture there was no need or room for the local women to adapt in the same way. You see it all over gravestones and artwork in these regions

@valentintapata2268

3 жыл бұрын

This phenomenon can be observed all around the world (and most historic periods), women are more traditional - they take care for the family, men are more public and therefore they are more susceptible to changes that shaped society (politics, serving in the army, fashion - symbols of the new political order).

@madmasseur6422

3 ай бұрын

That makes sense since that kinda remained a mentality of Pannonians as w hole to this day. That's how the Hungarians managed to become so dominant after all. Many slavs have even changed their names and last names to survive. Btw could you give us more info about the area and it's people?

9:45 wow i never knew romans have sex, thanks M. Laser History

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

No problem, I aim to teach the most relevant of informations :D

@dontbeadebil5046

4 жыл бұрын

🍆🍌😂😂😂

@TheColombianSpartan

4 жыл бұрын

Bro, that's fake news, everyone knows the Romans drank something known as "Mitosis Juice" and then underwent mitosis, making perfect copies of themselves

Finally someone that used correct maps for the dacian kingdoms. Thank you

What a great concept: collaboration between a group of historians on a large scale swarth of history!!! Congratulations.

Very cool. Thanks a lot for this project and huge work put into it.

An interesting and unique topic. Great video as always.

@RPM1776

4 жыл бұрын

Im a big fan

@lukaocallaghan8595

4 жыл бұрын

Bai Ganyo is underrated, needs a video

I'm here from Oversimplified's Bucket War video. Man you really are way under subbed. You are awesome and have great videos for sure. I hope that you gain a TON of subs you deserve them. I'm glad he brought you to our attention. Keep up the great work gained a sub from me for sure

My city Bologna takes its name from Boii tribe. Next it was conquered by romans that nemed it Bononia. Romans named all Pianura Padana (Po river valley) Gallia Citerior. Citerior that's like closer, nierest at Rome.

1:52 that’s one thicc boi

Amazing video. I live is the 3rd district of Budapest, 5 minutes away from the ruins of Aquincum. I love learning about the history of my home.

This is really well done!

I saw a shoutout to your channel on an over simplified video. Now subscribed!

@skizzik121

4 жыл бұрын

Same! This guy is quality right?

When i see the geography of pannonia a flat land surrounded by mountains i couldnt help but think its a missed opportunity for a big single nation to have been formed it would have around 40-50 milion people

@tussalgull5986

4 жыл бұрын

Filip J I mean it was because it's a good area that nobody could hold it someone else would always come along and take

@faluvegicsalad

3 жыл бұрын

Well, there was a try between the 9-20 centuries...

@BeedrillYanyan

2 жыл бұрын

Didn't Hungary have roughly those borders before WW1?

Yyyeeaah Boii

Me: Just one more video. Romans: Just one more province

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Until it all crumbles from within due to outside pressures.

Great video as usual

Quick note on Roman pronunciation C is always a hard C no matter if it's followed by I E Y. So Dacia is pronounced Dakia, Scordisci pronounced Scordiski, Taurisci pronounced Tauriski etc. Great job on the video tho :)

@qboxer

4 жыл бұрын

Yoo-lee-oos Kai-sar.

@sanniepstein4835

4 жыл бұрын

In the next spelling reform, we should use c only for the ch sound, otherwise stay with k or s. Why didn't Webster think of this?

@rsabinioan

4 жыл бұрын

That's how I was thought classical Latin in school in France but when I moved to my home country (romania) we were learning the other way around like "ch" if followed by a vocal. Maybe it was because of bad teachers idk.

@daniielah.7569

4 жыл бұрын

@@qboxer well, Kaiser does come from Caesar sooo

@Gentleman...Driver

4 жыл бұрын

@@rsabinioan I can imagine that the ancient romans had diffrent dialects depending on the region. Many times also with influence of the cultures they conquered before. Also latin was used by priests and monks after the downfall of the empire, and therefore was spelled diffrent in some locations.

dobrá práca! Rím ma baví.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

lol what is this Parseltongue you speak in :D

@revert6417

2 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory bless his heart, he tries!!

Something that is pretty important to meantion in my opinion about Pannonia's creation is that one of it's autochtonous tribes Mazaei had some lands which were controlled by the Dassareate and Autariantae

9:43 "And whatever else romans did" LMAO

People really named their kin BOII back then. Absolutely based.

@mythicdawn9574

2 жыл бұрын

Me and the Boiis walking along the Danube...

I was reading about Saint Quirinus of Sescia who lived in the province of Pannonia this is perfect. Thanks

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know about him but I know also Saint Martin of Tours was born in Pannonia, although most of his adult life has nothing to do with Pannonia. Never the less you can find many people starting in around the 4th century migrating away from Pannonia due to the emerging involvement of the Barbarian tribes on the fringes of the Empire.

1:46 ah yes Kratos’ favorite tribe, the BOII

Stable video 👍

quickest subscribe I've made in my life

wow this video really helped for my project for pannonia and its cool bcs i live there

That topographical map is absolutely gorgeous. Where did you find it, if I may ask?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I made it in Photoshop by using the data from here-maps-for-free.com/#close and here- tangrams.github.io/heightmapper/ Also thank you :)

@gunnarherzog5538

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory Neat, thanks a lot, I absoultely adore maps!

@fl0atpvnk

2 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory very cool. What is the second link used for though?

@MLaserHistory

2 жыл бұрын

@@fl0atpvnk to see the elevation in a black and white gradient. Helps me combine the data with the map from the first link.

11:59 wow, fish - it is one of the oldest Christian signs, great and well detailed job dude! :)

Proof to those hungarians thinking no one was living in Transilvania when the hungarians arrived

@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420

4 жыл бұрын

except before hungarians arrived lots of other civilizations have made transylvania their home: romans, goths, gepids, avars, huns, bulgarians and eventually hungarians that ruled for 1000 years. :P

@docibal4684

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420 That's what i was saying ;/

@aiurea1

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420 you have not ruled for 1000 years. Full conquest was made around 1300-1400 and also for hundreds of years hungary itself was ruled by turks and austrians

@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420

4 жыл бұрын

The Principality of Transylvania was never conquered by the turks, its voievodes were of hungarian noble descent and after the dissolution it was reintegrated into the Austro-Hungarian empire under the holy crown of st. Stephen up until 1918. And btw both Wallachia and Moldavia were set up by the will of the hungarian crow to create buffer states beyond the carpathian mountains. I am not disputing the current claim of Romania because romanian population has obviously exceeded that of the hungarians. I am just saying that de facto rule was the hungarian crown before 1918. :)

@aiurea1

4 жыл бұрын

@@gabor-zsoltbenedek9420 True Transilvania was vasal to turks not full part of the ottoman empire like hungary. Moldova was established by Romanian disidents from Maramures, which was only later under full hunagrian control. Muntenia was established by some Romanians (cumans at origin?) who only a few decades later were at war with Hungary. For this reason it's safe to say they were not sent by hungary, but were vasals to hungary at the begining. Too bad we don't have more records from those times

Nice video, had to rewatch a few times tho

Very good video. I would suggest trying to slightly slow down your delivery, which will add emphasis to your topic and also be easier for you to manage.

There is a housing development nearby me that is called pannonia, I had no idea what pannonia even was until randomly finding this video just now. Fitting name as it is built on swampland. Interesting stuff, good channel!

The playlist of Project Pannonia- kzread.info/head/PLbGtNUME__2eJ5rnffdg3zR-vPyBIUtKW More information in the description as always. Hope you enjoyed the video :)

@stormrider6202

4 жыл бұрын

Wouw are you the first youtuber talking about Illyrians !? Because your video is sick ! Thanks man Much appreciation From a Albanian XD thanks bro THANKSSS BROOOOOOO

Gludio town theme song as background music? perfect! #Lineage2 player will know.

Lineage music? Daaamn! :)

I got osii, quadi, and illyrian blood, so that was interesting to watch.

How do you chose what simbols to use to represtend what tribes and peoples?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

If I can't decide on anything I simply use their name as you can see in the video. However I hate doing this as visually it looks awful. Therefor I use several methods. A. Look if there are any artistic archaeological finds from that people group. Like the golden horse rider left by the Avars (disputably) which I used on several occasions to represent them in my videos. B. I look at any specific idea that defined the people group. Like the Huns are synonymous with archery and horseback riding therefor a bow and arrow or a horse would be an appropriate symbol to use. C. I try to look at what religion they followed and use the symbols from that, as these would be undoubtedly used by the people them self as it''s their religion. That is why I use the Slavic Sun to represent undefined Slavic tribes or in this video the valknut to represent Germanic tribes.

@gunarsmiezis9321

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory Does the symbol need to be age apropriate. And will you still use it if the meaning has changed in the minds of many? Also. If you had to pick a symbol for baltic tribes what would it be?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I try for the symbols to be age appropriate but sometimes use current symbols as they often times have symbolism within them that refers to the past and as such I think are appropriate enough. The current Wallachian flag comes to mind. However I will definitely use a current symbol only if the current meaning roughly correlates with the meaning in the past, unless I specifically want to point to the fact that the meaning has changed over time. The German Swastika or Slavic Kolovrat symbols come to mind as they are used as far right symbols today, interestingly the historical meaning these organizations give to these symbols is almost comically wrong. It would really depend on the context I was talking about them in (the Baltic Tribes). In most cases I would just use the name of the tribe like Prussian or Lithuanian, etc. But lets say I was mentioning in the context of attacking Germanic and Slavic people groups so referring to the Baltic tribes as a whole in which case I would most likely opt for using some kind of a picture of a world tree as it is known that the Baltic paganism evolved heavily around a world tree, or some kind of an ember carving since all ember in Europe came from the Baltics. I would maybe use Baltic Runes but the scholarly debate about these is very much still raging on so I don't really know how to feel about them.

@gunarsmiezis9321

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory I drew the symbol I would use to represent my people. It is the symbol I derived form my religion postimg.cc/kRb6nR63 I just drew it in my notebook ignore the rest of the things in there. I could go for hours about why I chose this symbol and what symbolism is in it as well as the two other symbols I wanted to add. I would be honored if you would ever use this kind of symbol to repersent balic tribes.

i try to find info on our Krayenbuel family crest frum bern switzerland 1490's.

Hello! Where do you get the signs 0:05 from? I have seen you using some in your slav-videos too. Thanks!

So many letters fighting each other.

Dacians were not celts, they were related with thracians or were thracians. Hungarians and romanians are partly related through dacians, sarmatians, roman colonists, slavs and cumans which they have in common.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I specifically said Dacians a subgroup of the Threcians and never said they where celts. However it is undeniable that transilvania underwent large celtcization creating a mixed celtic dacian cultur. The archaeological evidence for this is numerous.

what is the map you use for these videos? it looks very good thanks in advance!

@MLaserHistory

3 жыл бұрын

I edit it in photoshop but I get the core data from here- maps-for-free.com/#close

Ya boi!!! 1:45

Holy crap that map is beautiful (not the river map the map used for most of the video)! Where did you find it and/or can I find it myself? Or did you make it? Also this is an interesting idea for a collab.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I made the map in Photoshop by using the sources here-maps-for-free.com/#close and here- tangrams.github.io/heightmapper/

@velozio

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory thank you so much!

awsome video guys. You are Hungarians, right?

Boii were basically cowboii

@TarebossT

4 жыл бұрын

In Romanian language "boii" means the bulls so basically yeah...

6:09, isn't Bratislava also a capital?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Not founded by the Romans, and technically never was part of the Roman empire.

Curiously, another iranian people, the Jasz, related to the Ossetians/Alans, who are descendants of ancient Sarmatians, settled in the same territory as the Iazyges and spoke their language until the 15 th century.

My male line was in Pannonia for thousands of years before moving up into Denmark then into England...Salve!

1:45 YA BOI!!!

Omg it the boi are big boi are best boi and the only boi

Now I know what the project is but now I’m wondering what the Roman numeral for 2 is on the logo

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Legio II Adiutrix (I mentioned it in the video)

What about remnants od roman population during early Middle ages?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

The Pannonian Romance existed in small isolated settlements as far as until the end of the 10th century but many simply got killed, assimilated or just left due to the many Hunnic, Germanic, Avar, Slavic, Turkic and Uralic invaders in to the plain triggering waves of emigration. This emigration can be seen through a bunch of ancient writers born in Pannonia showing up in Byzantine court or courts of the Western Germanic kingdoms which replaced the Western Roman Empire, in around the 5th and 6th century.

You mentioned the Ilyrians, Celts, and Dacians... What about the Scythians, Avars, Magyars?

@Haasthimself

Жыл бұрын

None arrived there at the time

why is this so underrated

@MLaserHistory

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know ...

Unrelated topic: this video at 0:32 crashes my TV, no other video does it. It's happened 4 times now. It plays on my other devices fine. I have a feeling the TV has a seizure trying to process that animation for some reason. Anyone else have this issue?

Could you possibly link the base map you used in this video?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I made it my self using this as a reference maps-for-free.com/#close

6:12 *4 of which are capital cities today, you forgot Bratislava.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Read the description. Bratislava was never permanently within the territory of the Roman empire.

@PawelTheShrubber

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory Oh, Im sorry, I forgot to check the description.

I thought the Iazyges were called the Lazyges all this time...

13:19 nice

Lmao huns in 420 go brr

4th century bc...more like 11th-13th century ad.

7:00 Why does it say XIIII for fourteenth and not XIV? I'm not saying it's a mistake necessarily, it just stood out to me.

@MLaserHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Because even though Romans had numbering standards that does not always mean they were followed. Roman legions were often numbered as "IIII", "VIIII", "XIIII", "XIIX" and "XVIIII". Some examples of Roman steles with the XIIII numbering. www.livius.org/pictures/germany/baden-baden-aquae/baden-baden-tombstone-of-lucius-aemilius/ www.livius.org/pictures/croatia/topusco-ad-fines/topusco-dedication-to-silvanus/ www.livius.org/pictures/germany/mainz-mogontiacum/mainz-museum-pieces/mainz-inscription-of-xiiii-gemina/ and many more. I have no idea why sometimes Roman numbering standards were omitted by the Romans. Maybe there's some book out there explaining it but I couldn't find anything. Good question though.

Why do the legions have different names?

Is it possible that many Bavarians come from Pannonia? My great-grandfather's parents both were from Bavaria and my DNA test consistently shows relativity from the entire region of Pannonia, including Slovakia, Croatia, Northern Italy and Hungary. I always assumed it was Alpiner, but there's very little influence from the western countries of Europe.

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

The Danube river was the most vital part of this area. It flows from west Germany through Bavaria and central Europe in to the black sea. As such it paved the way for a high activity in trading, exchanging of ideas, cultures and of course sex between all these lands. So no it wouldn't be weird at all that people along the Danube have similar DNA.

@moorek1967

4 жыл бұрын

@@MLaserHistory I hadn't even thought of that. Thank you.

@ivanhus3852

4 жыл бұрын

Alex But Croats and slovaks are both slavs, so they are related genetically

@lilianasoare2524

3 жыл бұрын

@@ivanhus3852 There were not slavs yet at that time, slavs came in 7th century.

project panonioa. lets talk a lot about hungarians. serbs and romanians ಠ_ಠ

Boii

BOIIIIII

2:16 That's Caius Marius

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

"The so-called "bust of Marius" in the Munich Glyptothek, identified by Filippo Coarelli as that of Asiaticus, originally located on the facade of the Tomb of the Scipiones."

Eyy it’s boi

I feel like the Scipios were named and then sent to the region they were named for to Rome the Fuck out of said region Scipio style

aquincum is still called aquincum it's just merged with Budapest

13:19 420 blaze it

il give it a like for encludiong the huns

1:52 *#ThiccBoIi*

Pannonia tribes of Illirya panonia mean in old Albanian language our mother

Should have let arthur morgan or kratos narrate this

"Whatever the Romans did" [images of an elite lifestyle]. It's really just a myth that Rome was some sort of Hedonistic paradise. The only sexual difference between the Romans and everyone else is that the Romans documented their perversions the same way we do with pornography. They didn't disguise it as art or religion like the Greeks did. The Romans were too honest. There's a desire to portray the Roman civilization as somehow corrupted or evil, but that's really just the desire to convince yourself that civilization DIDN'T take a massive step back with the fall of Western Rome.

@luxborealis

4 жыл бұрын

But it didn’t. Quality of life improved for the vast majority of Western Europeans after the fall of Rome. The Roman economy never recovered from the Crisis of the Third Century and its people were choking under overtaxation, mass drafts and corruption. The coloni were deprived of rights and hereditary work without legal protections introduced. Literacy plummeted and the cities were abandoned. All before the fall of Rome.

@8bitorgy

4 жыл бұрын

@@luxborealis you're just making the point that civilization came and went with the Romans

What about Croatia? I mean we were there from 7th to 12th century. I've maybe misunderstood something but great video anyways!

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Croatia didn't exist during the Roman era ... ?

@zb7293

4 жыл бұрын

We were there before, but not in that big numbers.... There are artefacts, but they are in Belgrade. Officially we were recognized more in 7th century....9th by Rome...Bizantine before...

@Lukas-lw4eg

3 жыл бұрын

It's difficult to distinguish early southern Slavic populations into modern days nationalities and they probably didnt seen themselves as much different from each other either. Plus idk if I just missed it but this video wasnt really dealing with stuff after ~5th century.

Lazygaes

- from now on, you have to forget all the gods. we have 1 (ONE) true god. he's called god, duuuhh - but? that's boring. besides, how can gods just go away? oh, and it is BORING! - it is what it is.

boi

Oh ShIt Is ThIs A hUnGaRiAn ReFeReNcE?

And where was his Kingdom?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Who's kingdom ?

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

@@kovacssandor3474 I sadly can't speak Hungarian and also sadly don't have the money to pay someone to translate it. The best I can do is leave the translation option open on the video (which it is) and hope some knowledgeable in Hungarian is willing to translate the video.

Amazing! Proud of my illyrians

@stormrider6202

4 жыл бұрын

Me to ! very proud to be Albanian !

@stormrider6202

4 жыл бұрын

:D !

Now do every other Roman province and my $5 Wendy’s coupon is yours

@MLaserHistory

2 жыл бұрын

lol I don't even live in a country that has Wendy's.

And then the Huns came. And then the Hungarians came.

@MLaserHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Avars, there were the Avars in Pannonia after the Huns for about 250 years.

North Macedonia tru name

Referring to Oppidum as being like villages is just stupid

What about the arrival of Slavs? :(

@MLaserHistory

4 жыл бұрын

I already have multiple videos about that on my channel.

🅱OII

Who came here from oversimplified

Illyrian, why do you have to lose so hard that you get pushed out, move, and get lose even harder, the Illyrian in me is making me angry. Shoutout to the Illyrian for giving the land it’s name