Can you imagine a Romanisation of Dragonball Z? "Quintus, take heed! His legio number is over VMMMM!" >Severus performing the kamehameha *VENI. VIDI. VICIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!*

@Deridus

5 жыл бұрын

Toga=Trunks Cauldron=Pan Tomata=Vegeta Hades=Mr. Satan Goku=Goku

@randyroo2

5 жыл бұрын

"Quintus, take heed! His legio number is over VMMMM!" Best comment ever

@BroadwayRonMexico

5 жыл бұрын

"Vegetius" was an actual Roman name. Would be the best one for this

@wolfspirittotem

5 жыл бұрын

Instead of Roshi its Romulus.

@OnyxXThePunch

5 жыл бұрын

This needs to be made

hmmm the Romans would likely start using wooden armor though. for firewood....

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

LOL

@edi9892

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, good wood can offer you decent protection against even arrows, or an axe strike, especially with padding underneath. The problem would rather be that the armour breaks down too fast....

@Eckister

5 жыл бұрын

@@edi9892 no dispute there. but would it provide better benefits than an iron chainmail? Ill let you answer that for yourself...

@mattaffenit9898

5 жыл бұрын

@@Eckister Hamata is superior to wood.

@cattraknoff

5 жыл бұрын

@@Eckister It might be better against some kinds of arrows. Idk how common bodkinesque tips were at the time tho.

The title should be "Spaghetti VS Ramen"

@balancemantis4381

2 жыл бұрын

Please god don't make me choose 🙏

@Pooknottin

2 жыл бұрын

An easy victory for Italy there.

@strengthisabsolutestrength8215

Жыл бұрын

Ramen is better.

@WarmPillow-hs6kj

Жыл бұрын

Ramen better

@gm2407

Жыл бұрын

That is using your noodle.

Pasta vs Rice

@thejarljbj5263

5 жыл бұрын

Spaghetti vs Sushi

@daswordofgork9823

5 жыл бұрын

Ay Lord Bern from Warhammer 40k Dawn of War 2 Retribution

@NH-xg1cp

5 жыл бұрын

Paulo Mendes Metatron made a video about the history of pasta. Pasta was invented in China, however, in the Roman Empire, pasta was invented simultaneously. So no, pasta wasn’t copied from the Chinese.

@oiurehj

5 жыл бұрын

Why choosing?! In Italy you could have risotto if you want rice.

@sabin97

5 жыл бұрын

@@oiurehj damn....i was 4 hours too late....well played sir. you earned yourself a like.

And it's not just advantages in technology and tactics for the Romans, but also in financing, logistics, administration, and all the other support stuff that makes fielding an army possible.

@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999

5 жыл бұрын

Taking that into consideration would contradict the fantastical elements of this scenario.

@SilverforceX

5 жыл бұрын

The Roman army would have all died out on the journey across Asia before they even reach the coast. Really, Alexander tried.

@PM-fb3vm

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the Romans /Byznatines/ made it as far as Crimea and Moscow. They sent missionaries from Macedonia and Kosovo to spread "Salvo" /Salvation/. And over time that word "Salvo" evolved into "Slavo" and eventually "Slav" until you had the modern word "Slavic" So, Byzantine Greco-Romans succeeded religiously where Latin Roman offshoots of the Greeks failed. my case an point "Orthodoxy" named by the Catholics as it is. It is actually called "Pravo Slav" /Orthodoxy/ with two interpretations. 1) "True Glory" as in "God's Glory" while the second 2) "Salvation". Even the word for "Festival" and "Celebration is called "Slava"/feast, celebration, holiday of celebration, etc/. This is why there are many Slavs. Not because they poofed from Russia /Only case was the Bulgarian invasion known as the Tartar invasions/. They shot up north from the craddle of European Civilization. And thanks to two Monks: "Cyril and Methodias" their culture actually predates "Germanic" rhetoric and culture by about "500-600" years. Modern Germans are "Saxons". These Saxons could barely write their name without an "X" let alone use a "Fork , Knife or a Spoon". where did you think the Russians, or the "Romanov" dynasty came from? Italy? no. Constnatinople as "Bojars"/Bojardi: Boyar'di/ (Warriors)

@iivin4233

5 жыл бұрын

True. If the Romans invaded Japan it would mean they had already made a bunch of mind blowing conquests.

@phillip_iv_planetking6354

5 жыл бұрын

@@SilverforceX Alexander's army died on the march back not to Asia LOL.

The problem wouldn't be conquering Japan, the problem would be getting there.

@EduardoFerreira-gi7wo

5 жыл бұрын

They could never pass the huns which basically "protected" china from a roman invasion. Japan was a somwhat newer nation with poor technology, when Rome had excelent technology advances for the time. Imo: for Rome, conquering China would be rather Impossible, so they could never reach japan.

@CorvinTheSwasian

5 жыл бұрын

Especially with the climate there. Even if they got through China they would still have to deal with typhoons etc. Didn't the Mongolians try to cross multiple times but they always got drowned? (i may be misremembering)

@Red-S-267

5 жыл бұрын

themonkeywarrior111 they got to Tsushima in the 12th but thats it. Every other time Japan has been protected by wind and sea.

@matthewkeogh4365

5 жыл бұрын

@@EduardoFerreira-gi7wo Huns no their a little fish compared to the massive khanates to thee east like the Xiongnu

@ViscountNo7

5 жыл бұрын

Huns were moving away from east Asia and central Asia. "protect"? do you mean flee?

>grabs glass of water in dramatic zoom in

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Might look like a pointles thing but 1) I like it lol 2) It tells me you alteast watched until that point ;)

@yaldabaoth2

5 жыл бұрын

It was so random, I thought it was very funny.

@AxisTheHunter

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I bursted out laughing and had to take a 10minute break to finish the video

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

@@AxisTheHunter You are easily entertained my friend

@Intranetusa

5 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt I don't think the Romans could have fully conquered Japan, and the Japanese would definitely not be speaking a Roman language. Why? The Romans never even managed to fully conquer Great Britain (let alone the British Isles) despite it being much closer to Roman territory and having an easier geography/topography to conquer. The British are clearly not speaking a Romance language today. Conquering Japan would've been much harder than conquering Britain based on geography. The coast of Britain around the area where Caesar landed is also only 20-30 miles from France, whereas Japan is at least 100 miles from Korea in its narrowest point (200+ miles distance in most other locations with more suitable landing points) and ~500 miles from the coast of China. The waters of the Sea of Japan/East China Sea/Yellow Sea would be much rougher than the waters of the English channel. There would also be typhoons/hurricanes (which wiped out Kublai Khan's fleets when he tried to invade) that wouldn't exist in the English channel. So to even reach Japan from Korea/China, the Romans would have a much longer distance to cross and cross much stormier waters compared to the English channel. Japan's topography would also have been more difficult to conquer - it has a icy tundra environment in north (due to the lack of a Gulf Stream which warms up Europe). The British Isles are also mostly flat or rolling lowlands with hilly areas mostly clustered around the northern areas such as Scotland. Japan on the other hand is 80% highland/hills/mountains and only 20% lowland. Japan's mountains are also steeper due to its geological youth (less erosion) and lack of glaciers to erode mountains. It would be much harder to move armies across Japan compared to Great Britain. So if the Romans weren't able to fully conquer Great Britain, then they wouldn't have been able to conquer Japan with its rougher geography and topography.

Which Noodle Is better.

@smdfromthatbackshawty9787

5 жыл бұрын

pasta

@ahightechlowlife

5 жыл бұрын

Now you've done it. That is the true debate.

@PASSPORTKING2106

5 жыл бұрын

RAMEN FTW! LOL 🤣

@SkippyTheSpiteful

5 жыл бұрын

Top ten questions science still can’t answer

@crozraven

5 жыл бұрын

asking the hard questions indeed. Both originated from China, so I guess China would win it instead?

Great video! This kind of presentation is excellent in highlighting both cultures in an educational way but being entertaining at the same time! You're a good teacher Metatron!

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so thanks

@juanpablogonzalez8528

5 жыл бұрын

Well, he is an actual teacher after all. I would have loved to have that kind of teachers when i was studying

@JGSuttonJr

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. It was amazing. If I did a video like this, it would consist of just his final statement. That's all I got.

@larryhrh

4 жыл бұрын

And you can hear as the music is not to loud!

ROMA INVICTA, WEEBS

@yaldabaoth2

5 жыл бұрын

Just wait 300 years and some uncough barbarians with similarly bad equipment completely kicked roman butt.

@Joe-qw5im

5 жыл бұрын

The Goths, Franks, and the other Germanic tribes are quite well equipped if I might add.

@dontsubscribe3702

5 жыл бұрын

Then Constaninopolis Invictis

@dontsubscribe3702

5 жыл бұрын

Vocabula veritarum( I think that's correct)

@yaldabaoth2

5 жыл бұрын

@@Joe-qw5im I was thinking about the Huns.

Are you a professional narrator? Because you don't just have the voice - you have the delivery. Nice work!

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I put passion in what I do sir :)

@AnubisTheMaster

5 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt but he doesn't have the long hair .... anymore

@NobleKorhedron

5 жыл бұрын

@@AnubisTheMaster: No offence, but who cares? I don't, unless he claims to be depicting a hairstyle, and doesn't wear it...

@salt_97

5 жыл бұрын

He's a teacher

@theromanorder

2 жыл бұрын

"YOUR THE VOISE TRY UNDERSTAND IT. MAKE A NOISE AND MAKE IT CLEAR." Who gets the joke? Who knows that song?

2:27 Yayoy/Kofun Armor 8:35 Lamellar Armor 10:17 Roma 12:09 The Roman Shield 16:44 Greaves and Manica 18:56 The Clash

Think a comparison to China would have been more appropriate.

@nagybalazs4501

5 жыл бұрын

captainzenbi “General Ceasar! Do not pursue Lu Bu!”

@crafterofdoom

5 жыл бұрын

was looking for this

@adrianfirewalker4183

5 жыл бұрын

Metatron has done this

@SweetMattieG

5 жыл бұрын

It has been done.

@emperorconstantine1.361

5 жыл бұрын

Wish granted!!

Hey Metatron, I got my Greek Corinthian helmet for Christmas. It feels so good wearing it. If you’re curious about it, look at my picture up close. Awesome video! I feel so educated by you. I’m really reading history now and not the Wikipedia on the internet. I hope you inspire millions to be intrigued of history. God bless!

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Cool looking helmet pal and thanks for watching

@elijahc.brooks3493

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ralph and I want to let you know I’m always appreciative that you answer me. Even if you can’t answer my comments, I’m grateful to be one of your subscribers. You rock and thanks for calling me friend.

I like how much you have improved since your first videos, and I want to greet you for all your work and passion when teaching about history, I also like the variety of content you offer and I wish you te best.

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Roman boi: *Yeets pilum* *pilum gets stuck* Roman boi: get rekt mate

13:07 aye it's my Ethiopian boi who joined the Roman army. What a lad, great to see he's doing good over there

Metatron's opinion, or as I like to call it, a fact.

@phoenixinvictus9880

5 жыл бұрын

Nope, still opinion. It's just far better informed than yours or mine.

@SonsOfLorgar

5 жыл бұрын

More of a fact based conclusion than oppinion actually.

@ZaBrowski

5 жыл бұрын

LoL

@benerdick_cumberbiatch

5 жыл бұрын

Well he's totally wrong about Nagashino.

@herichimoify

5 жыл бұрын

A fact is a statement that can be proven true... *or* false. An opinion is a statement that, at least the time of making it, cannot be proven true or false.

I’ve used Metatron as a handle online since 1996. Damn you for getting to it before me here. But your channel is great! I grew up studying various martial arts since 8 years old, including fencing, Epee and Sabre, Kendo and other various weapons over the past 30 years. It’s great that you and Shad are here on YT. (Found your channel through his)

Videos like this, plus your soothing voice, are precisely why you’re my favorite presenter when it comes to anything to deal with weapons and armor of almost any period. You just have a passion for both of these cultures, so I think your view is the best in the world when it comes to such a match up. The presentation in this video is the best you’ve done hands down. The music, graphics of the transitions, everything is just so... crisp! I’m sure you’d love to spend a day with either army in the field, at least outside of battle of course! And, well, we’ll just have the Romans speak Italian! Just bring some pasta. You’ll make quick friends.

Put them against Han dynasty armies. I think the Roman Empire existed around the same time as the Han Dynasty, and early Han soldiers were well disciplined Warriors and comparable to a Roman legion. Plus, there are many rumors by historians that say that the Romans and the Chinese fought a battle once. It would be the perfect match up Edit: look guys. Lets stay on topic here.

@withastickangrywhiteman2822

5 жыл бұрын

The Chinese power grown and dropped quickly. When Chinese were strong they were hard to deal, They drove Huns to the west for example. but when they were weak, anyone can deal them easily. so if Romans fight Chinese the ending will rely on if the Chinese are strong or weak by that moment.

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

WithAStick AngryWhiteMan totally true, like I said, early Han Dynasty could stand a chance

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

WithAStick AngryWhiteMan whoa whoa whoa now. This got unnecessarily controversial and biased. We're talking about ancient China not modern China

@withastickangrywhiteman2822

5 жыл бұрын

@Camren Davis Unlike modern Greeks, The Chinese are NOT merely a shadow to those Hans. Just look at IQ map, isgp-studies.com/miscellaneous/race-and-iq/global-iq-scores-black-white-asian-hispanic-arab-large.png Napoleon actually said beware of them, it's necessary they should be limited

@ousamadearu5960

5 жыл бұрын

@@withastickangrywhiteman2822 get out of here you modern observer we are talking about Han China and Wei China when Gogryeo, Baekje, and Silla were warring Korean kingdoms.

ROMA INVICTA!!!!

Your professionalism is developing, Raf! This is a beautiful video. Thank you so much for all this hard work.

Dude, I enjoy how precise and meticulous you are about your details. I look up to you and hopefully will one day be able to outstand you.

I love your videos metatron

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear!

21:16 - No. If the Romans manage to defeat the Ancient Japanese in a field battle, they will speak English instead of Latin. “OUR MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD!!!! AHH.. SHAMEFUR DISPLAY!!!”

@Chiinkayy

4 жыл бұрын

William Goo you’re so funny dude

@kapitan19969838

3 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference!

@fedda9999

3 жыл бұрын

this is a black day, our general has fallen

@giannis7043

3 жыл бұрын

Rome total war vs shogun 2

I have always loved the discussion with different ancient armys that never met in actual history but are put up against each other in a hypothetical situation. Some how you always make this topic more fun to talk about.

Damn man, that quality is just *mwah*. Love to see how much you've improved, gives me hope for myself

Metatron, I tought Roman armor of the Republican times was made out of pasta... 🤔

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

I wish

@budibausto

5 жыл бұрын

nah dude, it's sheets of Lasagne, lots of them, uncooked and stiched togheter.

@matthewpham9525

5 жыл бұрын

You’re getting that mixed up with modern armor, pasta armor only began to appear when firearms were introduced.

@jacobockman709

5 жыл бұрын

So that is where the French baguette originated from.

@GhostRS3411

5 жыл бұрын

budibausto in other words, extra carbon pasta

The 25% Japanese in me wants to think "The Japanese will destroy the Romans!" But yeah, who am I kidding.

@easyalpha1

3 жыл бұрын

Listen to that 25 %....Japan had the numbers to wipe out the Romans.

@nelson_rebel3907

2 жыл бұрын

@@easyalpha1 I like the japanese warrior culture. But no. Rome was feared and admired and hated for a reason. They were brutally effective, well organized, well equipped, and well trained from the lowest soldier on up. Even if Japan was a fully united Japan (which it wasnt) their tactics, armor, and weapons wouldnt have lasted long against a serious roman invasion. Although it is incredibly unlikely rome would have been able to get that far with any signifigant force

@robertt9342

2 жыл бұрын

@@easyalpha1 . You’re kidding right? Their numbers weren’t that high. Now the Chinese is a different story. Higher population, better weapons and organization than the Japanese of the time.

@easyalpha1

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertt9342 that’s the point, do you have both the Japanese and Romans meet each other at their peaks of power? Or do you give a time era advantage which would favor one side?

Excellent information, really good food for thought.Thank you, and happy new year!

Amazing video indeed, and may I say , good command of English language as well as excellent presentation ... I'm sure it took a tone of research. Would be really interesting to see all the references added in the description.

I never considered a comparison of rome and japan, I always wondered more about rome and Han dynasty (especially considering comparative national power) or what would have happened if Alexander made his way to Qin during the warring states period?

Roman empire vs Han dynasty.

@harrymcnicholas9468

5 жыл бұрын

No Roman empire vs. Mongolian.

@fr0ntend

5 жыл бұрын

Harry McNicholas mongolian stomps

@fredericksaturnine4167

4 жыл бұрын

Romans die every time.

@SteaksOnSpear

4 жыл бұрын

Rome would lose to shear numbers if we just imagine they could ever field armies against each other.

@dontsubscribetome3262

4 жыл бұрын

@@SteaksOnSpear rome could actually muster up similar numbers and they have won many battles outnumberd

Once again you hit it out of the ballpark great video brother😁👍👍

Fantastic video. You continue to produce high quality content. Thank you and I look forward to 2019. I have started (casually) looking at the wooden armor of the Southeastern Alaska Native tribes (Haida and Tlingit) which apparently was at least not ineffective even against Russian muzzleloaders. Be interesting to see how the styles compare around the North Pacific Rim over time.

While it is true that I love the samurai sword and the way of the samurai, I have also come to admire the organisation and the technological prouesse that the Roman army had because of my love for the Latin language and after watching many documentaries about the Romans, so it is true that in the epochs described by the Metatron when the Romans and Japanese warriors would have hypothetically met in battle, the Romans would have definitely had a massive technological advantage over the Japanese forces and the Japanese would have spoken a Romance language today. Good comparison Metatron!

Great quality video, however it seems like a fairer comparison would have been Han dynasty China against Rome, that would be a much better fight, Japan at this time was a backward, fractured tribal society certainly not a empire. The Chinese at the time barley considered the Japanese Islands a passing curiosity(viewing the people of the Japanese island much like how the Romans viewed the ancient Britons.) All the while the Chinese built massive fortifications and walls of stone, raised massive armies, (from a population of tens of millions) even surpassing the largest armies that Rome ever assembled. At the same time China was already using trebuchets, mass production of crossbows, technologies that didn't really take off in Europe until hundreds of years later. Not to mention the very well established and creative use of military strategy and tactics, with generations of Generals studying the art of war. Chinese history and Chinese military history is criminally underrepresented in the west.

@camrendavis6650

5 жыл бұрын

Zevin X that's what I said

@jurgenkarambit2084

5 жыл бұрын

agreed,here,have your thumb up good sir.

nice one o hairy angel. well thought out and presented

thank you for another great video!

It would be interesting to hear the romance language that the Japanese would speak. Especially with the heavy influence the Chinese would have had

Legions VS Mongols. That'd be interesting. Both adapted greatly and are very disciplined.

@johnwicksfoknpencil

5 жыл бұрын

ApexPredator_ What would be the point? They’re separated by too much time. What’s next, compare medieval knights with US-SOF? Same difference in time period, same ridiculous comparison.

@thletrelas3817

5 жыл бұрын

Mongols win gg

@thetemplar8167

5 жыл бұрын

The Romans would win depending of the General , just re-use the phalanx formation and put it together with the forces of artillery and auxiliaries. If everything goes well there will be low casualties in the roman side , I'm not an expert about the Mongols but I'm sure than artillery is something rare to non existent in such quantities as the Roman legions.

@johnwicksfoknpencil

5 жыл бұрын

Meander T1 No shit gg. Just like Mongols vs US Army 2018 = Army win gg

@thletrelas3817

5 жыл бұрын

Remember Crassus.Just like that

In the end, you expressed more of your belief/theory than opinion. Just a constructive critique. :) Great video replete with great information. I'd love to see even more of these comparisons and what-ifs.

Excellent video as always, but you have to admit that some of the camera moves and angles were a bit hilarious :D

Roman Anime: I-I-sure hope Senpai Caesar notices me. *sighs and blushes*

@brandonhey7797

3 жыл бұрын

The fuck? 😂

@arya31ful

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonhey7797 "You think i'm your beloved Julius Caesar.... But it was me!, Marc Antony!.

@koryonos

3 жыл бұрын

( *cultured* *anime* intro ends) Oh no, both Gaius Julius Caesar Germanicus -senpai and Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus-senpai are coming after me.....

"their armor, weapons, and tactics will be explained and compared..." to see who would win in a Death Battle!

Wow, I really love this style of video

Hey metatron , I saw the samurai Vs legionary video and wondered whether a legionary throwing pila would be able to injure or kill a samurai clad in steel armour . Also I really appreciate your content. Great work!!!

Hay metatron what about ancient Korea?

@hessanscounty3592

5 жыл бұрын

That fight would have been more even, but would have likely resulted in Roman victory. While iron was much more common and the Korean states more familiar with organized warfare thanks to their proximity to the Han Chinese and internal conflict, the Korean peninsula was still broken up into conflicting kingdoms and confederations of city states for the time period in question.

@withastickangrywhiteman2822

5 жыл бұрын

@Hessan's County But if attacked Korean they will beg their Chinese dads for protection as they always do. Koreans always seek big dads to protect them. "My dad will sue you!" Now their dads are Yankees.

@hessanscounty3592

5 жыл бұрын

@@withastickangrywhiteman2822 While not phrased very nicely, you do have a point. However at this point northern China would be ruled by the Han Dynasty and later the Wei Dynasty, who would be more likely to conquer Korea as come and help them. That sort of close relationship did not come about until the Tang-Shilla alliance.

@jonbarad1

5 жыл бұрын

Yes do Vs China. Although Japan is interesting China had the tech and numbers to maybe....beat the Romans at their own game!

@withastickangrywhiteman2822

5 жыл бұрын

The Chinese by that time had a lot of crossbows, a thing even Huns fear, very powerful to against armors. If Romans against Chinese, they will have to overcome bolt rains. unlikely it is possible considering Romans lost to Huns

One of Rome's great strengths was it's ability to bring in and assimilate other cultures into its own. Japan never did that. I've always thought that was one of the great strengths of the Empire at its peak.

I love your longer information videos

Well narrated. Like how you use the same time periods instead of the next of the 2.

Next video: Alexander the Great VS the Aztecs

@andredulac4456

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I guess the phalanx will not be really usefull in tropical forest and moutains :p

@dontsubscribetome3262

4 жыл бұрын

@@andredulac4456 why do you assume it must be on aztec territory

Great video as usual Rafe. While I do agree with points you brought up, there is one HUGE point that would be working against the Romans in such a scenario. Their armies would have to travel a VERY long way to invade Japan, bringing up a HUGE issue with logistics. In short, unlike the Roman invasion of Britania and the Scotts, where they were relatively close to their own borders, an invasion of Japan would involve a HUGE voyage around Africa, past India and through the SE Asian archipalagoes and up the Eastern coast of mainland Asia. While Romans would be very well equipped when starting out on such an epic campaign, how well organized and equipped would they be by the time they finally arrived at Japan, a few years later? I think that is a huge enough point that it bears a follow up video.

@SonsOfLorgar

5 жыл бұрын

And the Romans would most likely have been forced to stop to replenish losses of both men and ships several times along that many-year voyage. Though they would probably skip Africa completely by disassembling their ships in Alexandria Africanus and reassemble them in the Red sea. Crossing to India by way of the Horn of Africa and the Persian Gulf.

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

I think this scenario would make sense only if Rome conquered China or Korea first and have a base of operation, like Gaul when going to Britannia.

@patrickbrennan1317

5 жыл бұрын

Jason Ross logistics often gets overlooked but it will make or break you in war or even peacetime operations

@Seriously_Unserious

5 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt I agree. If Rome was going right for Japan, they'd have nothing left but a ragtag band of survivors by the time they got there. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how Rome would fare against China during the same time period. I think here you would be seeing more of a clash of equals. But for even that to work, Rome would have to do something they failed IRL, conquer the mighty Persian Empire. Or again, find a way to go around Persia. Which brings us right back to the original logistics dilemma.

@seanbissett-powell5916

5 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt Great video, and so nice to see a recognition that Japan had a history before the samurai ! My understanding is that Rome's trade network to the Far East via the Red Sea and southern Arabia generated a very significant portion of Imperial revenue - Dr Raoul McLaughlin did an interesting KZread video on it, kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJWVrqmLipjRnqg.html How about a long-term scenario (say, from the end of Punic Wars to the early/mid Principate) where Rome acts to secure this trade route more thoroughly, initially with Roman rather than locally controlled trading posts. Military involvement would happen as soon as the locals got twitchy. Expansion would likely be an unplanned and creeping advance, similar to the way Northern Europe was occupied by just dealing with whoever created opposition. After a couple of centuries, I can see Rome having a long strip of lucrative coastal provinces, from southern Arabia, to the west coast of India, and maybe the whole of Ceylon. The different types of sea would likely spur technological development (oh okay, "borrowing" other people's technology as the Romans were so good at) so the Romans would have more seaworthy ships, capable of making the crossing to Malaysia and Sumatra, where the whole trade - military post - expansion thing would start up again. Admittedly this timeline would need some very serious changes to the history we know - probably including firmer succession rules to reduce the number of civil wars. But it has the advantage that it avoids the need for the Romans to fight their way through Parthia, Central Asia, China or Korea. Dealing with the various post-Mauryan Indian states could be a great video in it's own right, although of course the Romans knew how to handle elephants.....

Please make a roman empire vs samurai empire video both during their heights. Maybe even a series going into detail. Great vid thanks!

Great video, sir.

Only thing that would stop Romans (and did) would be logistics... Reinforcements and supplies would be almost imposible to get to Japan.

@harrymcnicholas9468

5 жыл бұрын

The Romans were stopped by the Iranians. They could not conquer outside the Med.

@tophatdalekthetophatteddal7402

4 жыл бұрын

@@harrymcnicholas9468 The main reason they failed was because of the terrain of Iran. The region was too difficult to conqeur given the hills and valleys. The Romans did actually conqeur outside the Mediterranean. Mainly Britannia or Albion as they called it.

I visited Rome last week! amazing city , magic atmosphere!!

Wow thanks is nice to see the different aspects of the Army's compared. Leant a thing or two as well thanks

Amazing video. You deserve 20x the subs!

Make a top 10 on the best Roman generals

As much as I like Japan, they'd get steamrolled by any empire of the time period.

@KaiZX

4 жыл бұрын

Even Aztecs?

@bleflar9183

4 жыл бұрын

@@KaiZX Pretty sure Aztec empire wasn't a thing back then. It was made somewhere around 15th century if my memory is functioning properly.

@bain6655

3 жыл бұрын

@@spencermadsen8752 I dunno about that, mid to late 16th century Japan would have been a match for most if not all European land armies.

@bain6655

3 жыл бұрын

@@spencermadsen8752 They were well versed in the early modern warfare of the time, innovated the pike and shot tactics (continuous volley fire and archer cover fire while the matchlocks reloaded, standardised calibres, gun sights) had more firearms than any European nation and could likely field bigger armies than the majority. For sure they were behind in many areas, but I don't see them getting steamrolled by any of the colonial powers. There's a reason they weren't colonised.

@bain6655

3 жыл бұрын

@@spencermadsen8752 The thing that held Japan (and Korea) back in the later centuries was their self-imposed isolations. By the 18th and 19th C I agree they were far behind the western powers militarily and wouldn't have been able to stand up to them then. Hence why they were forced into the unequal treaties which China had experienced.

I greatly enjoy your videos.

Nice video, little is know about pre-sengoku warfare in japan and this just teached me new things abbout the period. Can you recomend some sourcers about both pre-sengoku and sengolu eras ? Also, Will you make videos about historial accuarcy of japanese jadaieki movies, like the one you made about Outlaw King ?

God the cringy comments of people trying to pretend they know history it actually makes me die

If that would happen , we could see anime girl sculptures around the Caesar-chan and chopsticks in Italy today.

@oguzhantavus4237

5 жыл бұрын

@anythingnew hahahaha brillant :)

@shanedoesyoutube8001

3 жыл бұрын

Nahhhhh, more like the case of Caesar going "et tu, Brute" with the inscription "OCTAVIVS!!! ORE NO SAIGO NO HAMON DAZE!!! VCETOTTECVREEEEEE!!!"

Interesting video. West coast first nations seem to have used wooden armor as well. Tlingit, I believe. Edit: @ 20:14 what is the source for the color quartering?

Amazing Video! Its so interesting.

El enfrentamiento más esperado por toda Latinoamerica unida XD.

Maybe he meant that Yayoi armor was made of wood but he uses the term japanese just for a later periods because it is a little bit far stretched to call yayoi periode people japanese. Its like saying that a celtic warrior from Britania was english:D

Another great video, amicus.

I would love to see more videos like this!

I feel Rome would have run into the same problem the Mongols did during invasion. The best time of the year for it almost always fell in typhoon season, which is why the Mongol invasion fleet sank both times.

@ForgottenHonor0

5 жыл бұрын

@@googleaccount93 Why?

@harrymcnicholas9468

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the first invasion failed because the Mongols did not have enough troops. The second invasion failed because the Mongols made a blunder. They had catapults shooting grenades which destroyed the Japanese front line of defense. They then decided to finish off the Japanese with swords. They left the catapults and grenades on the ships and went off to fight the samurai. They lost and had to get back on their ships and then is when they were caught in the storm. Kublai Khaan simply was not the great general his grandfather was.

@MiguelCoBMaggot

5 жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenHonor0 Because that kind of thing doesn't just happen all the time, I'd wager, that's why they called it a miraculous event (kamikaze = Divine Wind). If they just knew it would happen they would've called it tactics. I mean, you can't just suppose it would happen again as if it was a japanese defense mechanism.

The Romans likely could not have fully conquered Japan and the Japanese would definitely not be speaking a Roman language. Why? The Romans never even managed to fully conquer Great Britain (let alone the British Isles) despite it being much closer to Roman territory and having an easier geography/topography to conquer. The British are clearly not speaking a Romance language today. Conquering Japan would've been much harder than conquering Britain based on geography. The coast of Britain around the area where Caesar landed is also only 20-30 miles from France, whereas Japan is at least 100 miles from Korea in its narrowest point (200+ miles distance in most other locations with more suitable landing points) and ~500 miles from the coast of China. The waters of the Sea of Japan/East China Sea/Yellow Sea would be much rougher than the waters of the English channel. There would also be typhoons/hurricanes (which wiped out Kublai Khan's fleets when he tried to invade) that wouldn't exist in the English channel. So to even reach Japan from Korea/China, the Romans would have a much longer distance to cross and cross much stormier waters compared to the English channel. Japan's topography would also have been more difficult to conquer - it has a icy tundra environment in north (due to the lack of a Gulf Stream which warms up Europe). The British Isles are also mostly flat or rolling lowlands with hilly areas mostly clustered around the northern areas such as Scotland. Japan on the other hand is 80% highland/hills/mountains and only 20% lowland. Japan's mountains are also steeper due to its geological youth (less erosion) and lack of glaciers to erode mountains. It would be much harder to move armies across Japan compared to Great Britain. So if the Romans weren't able to fully conquer Great Britain, then they wouldn't have been able to conquer Japan with its rougher geography and topography.

@BruceKent00

5 жыл бұрын

The Roman's didnt conquer the north of Britain because there was nothing there worth conquering. If the wanted it, they would have conquered it easily.

@Intranetusa

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceKent00 Incorrect. First, Roman Britain was constantly raided by the tribes in the north. Hadrian's wall was built because the Romans weren't able to invade and subjugate the northern tribes of Britain. Second, Roman Britain itself was suffering constant rebellions (including a rebellion that ended only a year before the construction of Hadrian's wall), so the Roman logistics and military garrisons were already stretched. If it was so easy to conquer all of Britain, then the Romans would've done so and wouldn't have had to build Hadrian's wall. Also, the Romans around this time had to pull back from lands in the Middle East because the territories conquered by Trajan were not defensible. The Romans signed treaties with Parthia, pulled back to the Euphrates and gave up Armenia and Mesopotamia around the mid 2nd century AD.

@BruceKent00

5 жыл бұрын

@@Intranetusa Hadrian's Wall simply marked the boundary of the empire. If you actually believe that the Roman's could NOT conquer the North of England if they really wanted to, then your a complete and utter moron. I think you are one of those suckers that have been conned into believing that the 9th Legion actually went missing in Calendonia, which is pure myth and wishful thinking by the Scots 😂😂😂

@Intranetusa

5 жыл бұрын

@@BruceKent00 You are clearly ignorant. Instead of calling people morons, you need to learn some basic Roman history, learn the difference between "you're" vs "your," and learn the difference between "conquering" and "invading." Sending troops to invade a region is not remotely the same as actually conquering (as in invading and controlling) a region. The Romans could and did invade northern Britain with armies, but they could not and did not conquer it because they failed to defeat the Caledonians. The Romans could barely control southern Britain as they were constantly dealing with rebellions in Romano Britain. Just like hypothetically, the Romans could invade the rest of Germany or send more armies into Iran to fight the Parthians, but the Romans couldn't conquer those regions because stretched supply lines and local resistance made it infeasible and economically prohibitive. The Romans had to build built another wall (Antoine wall) decades after the Hadrian wall to protect the new frontier further to the north. If conquest was so easy, then the Romans wouldn't have needed to build walls and subjugated them. The Romans had sent invading armies and built forts north of these walls, but they never defeated the Caledonians and thus never actually conquered northern Britain. So go learn some Roman history first instead of peddling nonsense ideas of supposedly Roman invincibility.

@BruceKent00

5 жыл бұрын

@@Intranetusa how ironic, the fucktard that wrote absolute dribble and nonsense in his/her original comment, now wants to give me a history lesson. 😂😂😂😂 Please don't make me laugh, you lost all credibility in your original comment. I think it's you who is in desperate need of a history lesson in respect to the Roman Empire. I stand by my comment that you're a moron.

Great video 👍🏻

You are reminiscent of the original history channel. Unbiased and educational. Thank you again, sir.

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

Ye no aliens involved here u.u

AGAIN , HAHAHA PRAISE THE SUUUUUUUN \[T]/

Some guys are saying that Rome was weak and only capable of winning beacuse they were a "Zerg". Kappa. Tell that to all the armies that lost against them for 600 years (at least). And i'm not considering the east roman empire. They basically formed the actual Europe more than a millennia ago. Can you elaborate this shit? P.s. Romans used cavalry too, why people always forget? Wasn't their main source of strenght but they used it. Story has been written, like it or not it has been written.

@GholaTleilaxu

4 жыл бұрын

"Kappa"? "elaborate this shit"? You know what? PS: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

I love you sir thank you so much for this video

Hi metatron could you please make a video about the kusarigama and especially how shinobi from for honor uses them in the acrobatic fighting style because i think if you can wield two of them and you are that agile it would be very effective.Not against knights probably but i think you know where i‘m going:) great video btw

No, offense but honestly Korea was weak and Japan was weak. Both? Of them would have been easily been conquered by Rome. I think a more fair and more interesting fight would be SPQR Roman Empire vs Han Dynasty China. But? Against Han Dynasty China Rome might not win against them. The Han Dynasty would have gave Rome a real run for it's money. The problem with Rome's armies/military is? They relay to much on close quarter combat. I mean their legions are equipped with Scutum and Gladuis. Let's not forget? Rome also relay's on Auxiliary units for other military support like mounted Cavalry and archers. Plus Rome is not the only one who has siege engines? Han Dynasty also field powerful and formidable Siege Engines themselves. The Han Dynasty army/military was already like a Medieval/Renaissance style force. Their infantry was heavy mixed arm units. Some had short spears, long spears, long swords, short swords with shields, Axe Dagger spear "Invented by China and the Ancient World's first Halberd weapon" (Which was very useful and effective weapon against armies using shield formation like Rome), spears and shields, and much more. China also employed large numbers of small arm crossbow and more light weight heavy cross bows in mass numbers. But also have light and heavy crossbow which these ones was more classified as Siege Engines. In many different combats the Han Dynasty has fought in. Which Rome does not have? Scorpio and Ballista do not count as small arm crossbows they are considered Siege Engines. The Han Dynasty military can deploy many different types of strategy against Rome they can just launch gorilla tactics. With their range weapon advantage of using massive crossbow units. A well-trained crossbow corps was more than capable of seeing off a cavalry charge or incurring devastating casualties if firing as a unit into the flank of enemy infantry during an ambush. Catching enemy troops in a crossfire by splitting one’s crossbowmen into two groups was another highly successful tactic. Han Dynasty China already had Trebuchet and more powerful Siege Engines they would easily destroyed Rome's forts and other fortifications. China of the Han Dynasty had a very large army as well. Numbering over one (1) million strong. Since the Qin Dynasty of the first Emperor of China. Well? Rome can only mustard up only less then a hundred (100) thousand strong. Which is not enough to conquer let alone occupation of China. The only advantage Rome has was it has the best trained discipline Infantry force. When it comes to? military technology, numbers, strategy/tactics, economy and etc. China wins on those advantages. In the Battle of Zhizhi (郅支之戰) in 36 BC? A Roman styled army/military lost to the Han Dynasty army and China was victorious. Rome hasn't? Face anyone like China before. So I already know who would win. If it was SPQR Roman Empire vs Han Dynasty China. And another fun fact? China of the Han Dynasty also defeated Greeks as well. In the War of the Heavenly Horses.

@Clee-os6pv

5 жыл бұрын

@천승헌 : Really? Well! I don't know very much about the Korean kingdom of Goguryeo. But? I will take your word for it.

actually, I don't think the Japanese of this period would be as fucked as it immediately seems. At this time, Japan and Korea were allies, and if they invaded Japan, korea would have came to aide and the iron age koreans were much more well equipped than the japanese of the time.

@netiora

5 жыл бұрын

Well it's really just the kingdom of Baekje that had a close relationship with Japan, so what kind of aid they would be able to send to Japan would also depend heavily on what state Baekje was in. At its height, Baekje could field an impressive army and fend off the other two kingdoms, at its worst it suffered defeats that resulted in beheaded kings and lost capitals. Lots of factors.

@charliewhite578

5 жыл бұрын

@@netiora totally, but it's still a factor that can't be ignored.

@me6096-

5 жыл бұрын

"Or they could have just hold out in little improvised fortifications Inb4 a Typhoon came to wipe the Romans out..." 😅

@charliewhite578

5 жыл бұрын

@@me6096- That and they Japanese could have developed stone castles quite easily during the kofun period if they invaded then, because their massive tombs were all made of stone, very well made too.

@danieloutlaw6610

5 жыл бұрын

But even so Rome had legoins from all over it's empire and would focus on any toops there sent to help and evently take Japan and move forward as it would mean the senent and genruals would get glory and power and wouldn't find fundings hatlrd nor would season troops be hard to looks for and the Legionaries were able to walk miles in the course of a day and could set up a basic defense camp in a few days as well as masrwe hand to hand combat and sword play of the time and took invasions seriously and chose the best of strategic positions that could let them hold easly and let there war machines do massave damage to any oncoming enemy

love your videos Metatron, you are doing a great job. Listen, I got a special request. I'm pretty ignorant on eastern history. Did they ever go through family dinasty wars like the Punic wars? father and sons all involved in battling each other for pride, glory and survival?

Great video

On tribes having no chance the germanic tribes and picts would like to diasgree with that statement

@metatronyt

5 жыл бұрын

I never stated "tribes" having no chance, I only said specifically Iron age Japan didn't. You can't compare the Germans with Iron age Japanese.

@Ungeboren1988

5 жыл бұрын

@@metatronyt I interpreted the conclusion on my first viewing this way and see the problem. On the German with Iron age japan comparison I can't say much since this part of history eludes me somewhat ( I only know what roughly happened ), so further explanation would be appreciated if it isn't to bothersome.

@Deridus

5 жыл бұрын

I always figured that Arminius ambushed Varus as his legions were on the march, and defeated the Romans in detail. Had Varus not been destroyed then and there, I believe the Roman frontier would have been much, much deeper into Germanic lands before they reached the limits of logistics. Say, thurnigia and Saxony.

Good video though I disagree with the conclusion. Japan's mountainous geography is not as extreme as the Alps but it's sheer extent would have caused the Romans problems. This would have been compounded by the climate of extreme winters covering the North and the oppressive summers where the combination of heat and humidity work against any invading army. Just as Rome avoided pushing further into the British and Irish Islands, Germany, and Eastern Europe it may have either decided Japan was not worth the trouble or tried to hold on to only those areas that it deemed hospitable. As in Britain the native languages would have survived and the people would have quickly acquired Roman technology. There would have been little incentive to stay, Japan's greatest resources, it's people and their agriculture, were far smaller then so there would have been little incentive to stay for slaves and rice. In the face of organised resistance, improving weapons and tactics, and a hostile climate, all with little to show for it, Rome would have withdrawn and used its legions elsewhere, California!

Roman full-scale armor Calvary soldier approached a Japan village: we came to talk to your leader. The village: Oni!! (Then proceeds to abandon defends). The Roman trooper: (asking a Japanese translator) why are they running? The translator: (stare)...look at yourself in the mirrors.

@metatron Yes I agree with your thoughts, but what about China vs a Hellenistic kingdom... think about that...or Byzantium vs Japan of 11th century. Happy holidays from Argos!

a knight wearing a plate armour and using an halberd will win

@GrammarPaladin

5 жыл бұрын

Literally top tier soldier facing off ancient less developed warriors

@yourlocalt72

5 жыл бұрын

GrammarNazi ikr its equilivent of a tank

@Cervando

5 жыл бұрын

A soldier wearing body armour and using an assault rifle would win. Yet my example is closer to your choice historically, than yours to the periods in question by several centuries.

@DrIvoRobotnick

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cervando but Kevlar is easily pierced by a spear or sufficiently sharp knife, right?

@Cervando

5 жыл бұрын

@@DrIvoRobotnick Lol do you honestly think that even if he wore no armour that a soldier with an assault rifle would lose? Besides military armour offers protection against cutting and piercing from blades and spikes too.

and still with all advanteges in mind the romans were unable to defeat the germanians xD

Hi Metatron I like this kind of video Will you make Roman legions vs Chinese army during the Qin or Han dynasty ? :D

This was incredibly interesting. I look forward to more pre-samurai Japanese history videos. A time vastly over shadowed by the samurai era.

What a load of BS, everybudy knows a japanese warrior would cut 10 legionaries in a single blow. Samurai warriors could cut bullets in mid air. After all the katana is the best weapon ever made. In the future people will just fight with katanas as homan kind cant think of anything better.

@johnchestnut5340

5 жыл бұрын

Do some homework. It's not even the best sword left alone the best weapon.

@vampirecount3880

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnchestnut5340 shut up, katana can even cut through time and kill your enemy before he was even born

@vampirecount3880

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnchestnut5340 katana can kill superman, so i dont mind.

@greysonf6211

5 жыл бұрын

John Chestnut You know he’s just joking right.

Poor Romans! Those _katanas,_ with their superior cutting power, would slice them all the way back to their hometowns!

@ahightechlowlife

5 жыл бұрын

Trolling?

@yaldabaoth2

5 жыл бұрын

You're 1000 years too early for a katana.

@flamebird2218

5 жыл бұрын

The Katana wasn't invented yet.

@justinbeath5169

5 жыл бұрын

The romans could start using pommels as their primary weapon. The Japanese never used those so even the katana would be useless in the end

@SonsOfLorgar

5 жыл бұрын

@@justinbeath5169 too bad the Romans wouldn't have any battleship for the Japanese to surrender on after the PMD deployment...

Very interesting. I had no idea about pre-samurai Japanese warfare. Keep up the good work, Metatron. Also, you should do a video about the Romans vs the Mongols. p.s. Happy New Year!!!

Very interesting!

Awesome video format. Also love the multiple angles!

Great Video

Love your videos, my friend!!! Sadly this one I had to turn off half way. The music, sound effect and visuals that add nothing to incredible content were just too much :( I'm sad as I was really looking forward to this one.

Excellent video. I think a video comparing the Chinese armies and the Roman legions at a similar time frame would even more interesting.