Well the answer depends on whether they fought for the Julii, Brutii, or Scipii ;)

@ArvosCrusader

7 жыл бұрын

Cole .S u know that's just in Rome total war it's not really historically accurate it's just for video game purposes because every faction in the game has their special colors to make battles easier

@piehalo

7 жыл бұрын

Arvos Crusader nah dude, I'm studying classics in college and let me tell you that is historical fact

@ArvosCrusader

7 жыл бұрын

Cole .S haven't actually heard that anywhere but I trust u

@ArvosCrusader

7 жыл бұрын

Cole .S though I'll probably do some research

@RedLucarian

7 жыл бұрын

I'm almost certain he is joking.

At first they were wearing red, but then - Aiooo, wololooo, and they wore blue.

@cpgvonc7568

7 жыл бұрын

That is actually not a bad money scheme. Have piece of cloth in yellow or somesuch. Have monk dressed in purple go "WOLOLOO" towards it. Sell the now purple cloth. repeat. Profit.

@jazzmetal500

7 жыл бұрын

Ham Brügger Rogan?

@TheManInRoomFive

7 жыл бұрын

Age of Empires reference.

@roahnscifinutter8683

7 жыл бұрын

Step 1: Wear purple toga. Step 2: AIOOO, WOOLOLOOO! Step 3: Prophet.

@SmedleyDouwright

7 жыл бұрын

They were not barbarians! They dressed for dinner.

'Did Roman soldiers wear red tunics?' 'Yeah sure, some did.'

Clearly, Roman soldiers wore white so they could dye it red with the blood of their enemies!

@jeremiaas15

7 жыл бұрын

Blood as a dye produces a dark brown colour, not red.

@spicemarine1884

7 жыл бұрын

jeremiaas15 you're a party pooper.

@Rex-golf_player810

7 жыл бұрын

Tolunay Avci nahh hes just not a dumbass

@adorabell4253

7 жыл бұрын

+jeremiaas15 as every girl knows.

@SimoLInk1698

6 жыл бұрын

Actually when i was a kid i red in a history book that tunics were dyed red because by doing so, blood spilling from the wounds wouldn't be noticed. That might be bullshit because i haven't found anyone else saying this.

As a German I find the irony of Caesar's name quite funny. When you pronounced his name it sounds like the German word Kaiser meaning emperor yet we pronounce his name "tsezar". It is fascinating to me the name Caesar made it into the German language as the word for emperor.

@yoursotruly

2 жыл бұрын

I recently saw a show about this, the "C" has always been pronounced as "K" by Romans and those who prefer historical correctness but some ignorant Brits started pronouncing it "Seezer" and it stuck.

@memr5690

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoursotruly Not ignorant, its just how Latin evolved over 2700 years

@lscibor

2 жыл бұрын

The name didn't make it into the German language per se, though. It was already used in Latin as a word for emperor. It entered the names, or titulature of imperators of Rome. Gaius Caesar Augustus Germanicus Tiberius Caesar Augustus And so on. From there, it entered proto Germanic, Greek, and so on. Russian Tsar (царь) comes from Ceasar as well, too, for example.

@sk00k

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine learning about the tetrarchy in German

@majorfallacy5926

2 жыл бұрын

Not just german, for example Tsar is also derived from caesar. And the word emperor comes from imperator

12:43 i think i would prefer a white tunic in Egypt, too.

@christosvoskresye

7 жыл бұрын

I would prefer a sort of mustard yellow, so that it would not show sweat stains so badly.

@fiddlove

7 жыл бұрын

or piss stains

@MrChickennugget360

7 жыл бұрын

a brown tunic for you!

@kevinsullivan3448

6 жыл бұрын

And a cloth cover for my metal helmet.

@decam5329

3 жыл бұрын

Where not the white tunics not made from linen rather than wool and so would not readily take dye?

As someone with some natural dye experience, I'd like to add a few things. As far as these other substances are concerned, I believe your referring to mordants. The reality is, a single dye plant, as it's called, can produce a range of dyes and tones, and a vast amount. A lot of factors go into determining what color you get. For example, PH, whether the water is acidic or alkaline, or more neutral, will alter the colors. The specific mordant chosen will also alter the colors. If you use a modifier, that will also alter the colors. How hot the water is can also produce interesting colors. Madder will be browner if it goes above a certain temperature. Mordants can be produced from plants (oak galls, rhubarb leaf, for example), it can be salt, or something with certain metals in it, like copper, iron, or aluminum (although Iron can also be used as a modifier). Alum is a common mordant nowadays. Some say vinegar or lemon juice is a mordant, other say no. People's stance on that differs. But it can be used in dyeing. That said, some plants don't need a mordant added to them. You can still alter the color with modifiers. The dye process will also influence the color. Were things mordanted cold or hot? How many times was it mordanted? Did you use a variety of mordant combinations (alum, oak galls, alum combo)? Was it a fermentation dye (fermentation dyes are not just for blue colors such as indigo and woad). Was it dyed hot or cold? Solar dyed? Did you premordant the skein/fiber/fabric, or did you mordant and dye it at the same time? Post mordant? Use a pot as mordant? And how was the dye extracted? Was it extracted cold or hot? If hot, what temperature was it extracted? How much dye was added? All dye stuff needs to be weighed as a percentage of the weight of what is being dyed. That can influence whether the item ends up pale or deep colored. This will also determine color. That's not on top of the possibility of over dying, (dyeing blue on yellow dyed fabric, for example). And what was dyed? Was it dyed in the fiber then spun? Or was it dyed in the yarn, then woven? Was it the cloth that was dyed? Was it spun woolen or worsted? These can effect the perception of the color. Kermes is interesting. Eventually, it was superseded by cochineal. Between the two, cochineal is more popular nowadays. Just thought I'd add some info! Thanks for the video!

Thank you for this informative video. As a native speaker of Persian from Iran I found two interesting things I wanted to share: - Saffron is most widely found in eastern Iran nowadays and Iran is the biggest producer worldwide. There’s still some debate about the place of origin of the plant but it’s most widely believed to be originated from Iran. If this origin theory is indeed true, maybe the Romans decided to import it and cultivate the plant in regions with somewhat similar climates to eastern Persia, namely Greece and Spain, just like what happened with domestic silk production during the time of Justinian. It would be really nice if further excavations and research could reveal the history of saffron in Europe. - The word for color red in Modern Persian is "قرمز /ɢeɾmez/" which comes from Middle Persian "Kermest". "کرم /kerm/" in Modern Persian means "worm" and it is believed the color was named as such because of the fact it was produced from the insect you mentioned. It was really interesting when you mentioned the color name in Latin, it shows that the words most probably have a common ancestor from the earlier Proto Indo-European language.

@markiobooker218

Жыл бұрын

What a thoroughly fascinating and intelligent contribution your comment was. Iran, I would argue is most likely the origin of saffron with highest production and consumption. This is identical to 20th century apple cultivars, where their origin nation is nearly always the main consumer. There are exceptions ie "granny smith" apples but the exceptions prove the rule, did they not? I would disagree cochineal was a dye source because it is a New World or outer Old World dye source, when much cheaper, more plentiful and weedlike 'madder' (rubia tinctorum). Saffron may have been used for orange-tan-yellow but I would also argue the Iranians kept such a valuable product to themselves- doubtless there was some trade in "used saffron" for the lower classes to savour something the upper classes probably used to excess (as a display of wealth- everyone loved to clothe, eat and consume as ostentatious displays of wealth- only later more Stoic influenced Catholic monks would have lectured against "luxuria" and God's preference of ascetic lifestyles (live as Jesus did as a pauper among the poor; the meek and poor over wealthy as Christ said "it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven". Obviously Christ and society back then were far less naive than us today about the moral scruples of the wealthy and the plethora of sins they either engaged in to attained their wealth or indulged in while wealthy. It's quite easy to see how Christianity as an ascetic and Stoic faith converted so many of the poor, the military classes and so on- much the same I imagine Muhammad (SAW) had such a normalities, culture and moral lightning strike among the polytheistic tribes of His time. With Muhammad (SAW) like Christ, their testament was so other worldly especially blaming poverty on society especially social lack of mirality and compassion completely differently to Hindu-Buddhist blaming the pauper for his poverty as punishmebt for past lives' sins. This attitude very much continues in India with its anti-Christian, anti-Islam caste discrimination and Thailand, Laos and Cambodia blaming victims of landmines as an untouchable or justly punished caste, their horrific maiming being considered punishment in this life for their previous incarnations' sins- whereas Islam-Christianity (fastest growing religions in these areas) says no- it was clearly an horrific accident caused by the stupidity and inhumanity of those who landmined the area and their soul has unequivocal equality in society with full chance, no different to others', of total Redemption especially through charity.

Well at least we are definitely certain they didn't wear Green. Since Green isn't a creative color.

@salamut2202

7 жыл бұрын

They also probably didn't use orange, they wouldn't want their enemies thinking creatively and seeing a silly face walking along and smiling at them.

@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy

7 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Jernigan True warrior always wears pink. 😏

@nathanieljernigan1147

7 жыл бұрын

qwerty qwerty they typically slip into their pink before and after battle. Only the truly brash do *it* during. 😉

@Telsion

7 жыл бұрын

qwerty qwerty PRAETORIANS!

@MrChickennugget360

7 жыл бұрын

pink? we are not talking about Thebens here.

I remember hearing this is why the British uniform was red in the time of the empire as it was the cheapest colour to dye a uniform.

@RangerHouston

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t hurt that when you’ve been shot you’re friends can’t tell.

@Anaris10

3 жыл бұрын

The color was known as "Venetian Red" and was indeed the cheapest.

@DavidEllis94

2 жыл бұрын

@@RangerHouston If your comrades are paying attention, however, it might be a giveaway when you groan and keel over.

@sethiroth1065

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was for if they get hurt when they bleed they look like there immortal since u can’t see blood

@samiezzi6143

2 жыл бұрын

I know its been years. But does anyone have any source for this because it might help an essay im working on

So....are you saying there is a chance,even if it is small, that some roman soldiers wore pink tunics ? Even due to fading? "Quintilius Varus, give me back my pink legions!"

@duchessskye4072

7 жыл бұрын

Omg this made me laugh out loud. Quote of the Year definitely!

@jeremiaas15

7 жыл бұрын

Up untill early 20th century pink was considered to be a pretty butch colour.

@allmightlionthunder5515

6 жыл бұрын

Still want them back low "Quintilius Varus, give me back my pink legions"

@teedepefanio4974

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@robertpatter5509

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm what would pink signify? Red meaning Mars, military and martial power. White meaning well read, intelligence, patience Pink meaning someone similar to Marcus Aurelias? A Warrior Poet?

I guess we tend to assume ancient soldiers had a uniform because that *has* been the case in the last few centuries

@thoranevans4832

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I would go as far to say a lot of people don't realize how incredibly costly war was in those times. The early Roman legions were members of the upper crust because only they could afford the horses/armor/weapons needed to fight in battle. It was only since the Marian reforms that equipment was provided to the legions for free and ranks opened up to anyone. It would make sense then if everyone was buying their own equipment the army would come out looking less than uniform, pun intended. In fact, it used to be a point of pride to say you could afford to fight in Rome's wars.

Who would like to see metatron playing mount and blade warband? :)

@nikosdikelas8334

7 жыл бұрын

qwerty qwerty Nah... immersion scientists say that mount and blade is not....... ammersive

@duchessskye4072

7 жыл бұрын

Who would like to see Metattron playing Warband... Multiplayer xD Man, it would take a huge amount of time to get used to that...

@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy

7 жыл бұрын

The_Shinigami Pixelated Apollo did that and plays with his subscribers against other youtubers. :D

@enoughofyourkoicarp

7 жыл бұрын

I never trust immersion scientists, they're not very convincing.

@qwertyqwerty-ek7dy

7 жыл бұрын

enoughofyourkoicarp What eaven are they? 😅

Been proven through the years that depending on who the soldier served if try was navy cav or foot and what era and post. Soldier Red Brown Yellow White Cav Light brown White Red Brownie green Navy Blue Moss green Orange

Love how your accent is quite well spoken British But with Italian bits here and there :)

Awww Asterix o/ As a French guy, thank you for the reference xD

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

;)

@cityassassin

7 жыл бұрын

I remember watching Asterix when I was a tiny thing. Good stuff for sure.

@thesapientsapiophile

7 жыл бұрын

When my father was stationed in Germany, I watched Asterix a lot. It brings back so many fond memories. I do forget, however, His big friend's name. Nonetheless, my favorite was Asterix Vs. the bureaucracy.

@pn4960

7 жыл бұрын

coucou

@zambatox

7 жыл бұрын

Read every single one of the Stories (yes they're comics before anything else). ^^ Jeffery -> Obélix is the name of the big friend. Et salut ^^

Why metatron why so early in the morning now i have to loose my university lesson

@theaussiebogan9680

7 жыл бұрын

Nikos Dikelas lol. Its afternoon here

@nikosdikelas8334

7 жыл бұрын

The Aussie Bogan 10:17 here and my lesson starts at 10:20😂

@ArvosCrusader

7 жыл бұрын

Nikos Dikelas it's 2 am here lol

@orsettomorbido

7 жыл бұрын

You can't say under a professor's video that you will lose an university lesson LMAO

@nikosdikelas8334

7 жыл бұрын

orsettomorbido sadly i did XD

Keep up the great work metatron. You keep my work days interesting (I listen to your videos in the background). You answer questions I never thought to ask.

When Metatron fixes you with his steely gaze, you know you're just wrong, about everything, and there's no point even trying to argue. It's a powerful thing.

I'm in awe at how interesting and informative this video is!

I love how the plants used for cheap dyes are literary called tinctoria or "to dye."

Red is the best color! Too bad in fiction it usually means you're the bad guy.

@germanvisitor2

7 жыл бұрын

"All wings report in." "Red 10 standing by." "Red 7 standing by." "Red 3 standing by." "Red 6 standing by." "Red 9 standing by." "Red 2 standing by." "Red 11 standing by." "Red 5 standing by."

@scutumfidelis1436

7 жыл бұрын

germanvisitor2 I said usually dammnit!

@germanvisitor2

7 жыл бұрын

Daredevil, Red Tornado, Captain Marvel, Iron Man, Red Riding Hood, Red Robin, Mario :-)

@scutumfidelis1436

7 жыл бұрын

germanvisitor2 Krauts never give up do they? lol

@germanvisitor2

7 жыл бұрын

Red Skull! ... Oh wait!

I'm so glad I came across you channel....so informative, interesting, and delivered in such a wonderful speaking voice......

I could listen to you pronounce Latin binomials all day.

I really enjoy the Roman content the most. Excellent video, thanks Metatron!

I remember when you had less than 5k subscribers! Congratulations! I wish you continued success.

Another great segment. I learned quite alot, thank you

Really great video as always! I've actually been interested in finding out about ancient dyes for a while, so that was also an unexpected surprise :D

If some historians think it's impossible to understand the Roman army without having been in it then why are they wasting their time?

@13tuyuti

7 жыл бұрын

Because they think being in a reenactment club is just as good as having been in the actual Roman army. Of course there are records of Vegetius never having been in a reenactment club.

@kevinhendryx665

6 жыл бұрын

Historians are ALWAYS writing about peoples, places, and events they have no personal experience of. It's ridiculous to pretend anyone has to serve in an army to understand it. Most military historians have never been in combat and I guarantee you none living today ever fought in an ancient battle.

@kevinsullivan3448

6 жыл бұрын

A big problem with 'history' is that you don't have to know what you are talking about to write and sell books to other people who don't know what you're writing about. I have a section in my personal library of trash history books. Mostly on military history.

@shorelockhomes943

6 жыл бұрын

Tomartyr mabey some of those kinds of historian are wannabe renacters.

@GooglyEyedJoe

6 жыл бұрын

It's the historical version of saying "Bro have you even served?!" when someone tries to comment on military matters and you get those angry veterans who "gatekeep" the military like you can only know if you've experienced it or something.

"Purple was expensive" Understatement of the century

@d4n737

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if you choke a bloke enough he'll be just the right shade, that's for free.... Shame you can't put that color on a fabric... That'd be neat.

one of your best and most informative videos. love the Roman history videos

So interesting! Thank you again. I am learning so much from you.

In the pre-marian legion there would be no uniform tunic color at all (it being a citizen militia). And after the marian reforms and in the Imperial era it seems one should not assume that there were uniform tunics. I do think it's certain that post-marian legionairies got standard issue cloaks and belts from the government. The soldier's belt was his uniform? At least I've read that the belt of a legionairy was the most important sign of him being a soldier.

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Very true, infact they would wear the belt on the tunic when not wearint armour, but it's still far from being a uniform.

@guidokreeuseler9566

7 жыл бұрын

Oh very true! Military uniforms as we know them are a fairly new thing that only really became standard in the 17th century

@mikereger1186

7 жыл бұрын

The nearest contemporary I can cite is Cromwell's New Model Army. The original Redcoats. I'd contend that the Romans had the finance and capability to equip their men better than Cromwell ever could, yet he was able to establish uniformity and consistency of arms, armour and equipment. Granted he didn't need to make more than breastplates and helmets, far easier than making mail. And he didn't have such long distances or supply lines to worry about. But otherwise, why shouldn't Rome have been as good? A certain amount of uniformity is required to make a unit work. Issuing weapons makes sense so they can share the same reach, or all be equipped to throw pilae. Having a mix of various weapons in a unit would have a poor effect on its capabilities. It leaves you with a feudal peasant mob. Chances are that Rome at least issued weapons. Having a uniform colour would help ensure that similarly equipped soldiers in a melee could identify who was on which side (think of pre-imperial times, Sulla, Caesar, Pompey, Octavian, Antony). Lose unit coherency for any reason and how to tell who's who? From a practical point of view, you'd want roughly the same colour in your unit. However, why not just paint your shields to do this? Way cheaper, and the tunics would be mostly obscured by the mail being worn. Again, it would make sense to have a certain amount of centralised control over this even if it's just issuing paint...

@kevinhendryx665

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, and the professional military mind has always favored uniformity, when achievable. Rome spent much on its army and I doubt they skimped on dyes. Contractors for supplies and equipment could easily have supplied batches of cloth in uniform colors, or even made up the garments themselves.

@mysticonthehill

6 жыл бұрын

Actually many indigenous peoples even had uniforms, complete with "metals" for prestigious acts of service. The concept of uniformity is ancient. Every people wanted to be readily identifiable as one of the tribe/of the warband so to not to be mistaken as an enemy.

You look and sound real tired in this one. I know you promised yourself to do a new video every day, but if it's getting to the point of harming your health, don't be shy to take a day or two off. Your health is more important than any given video; take care of yourself first, videos second!

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your concern :)

@zerrowolf6747

7 жыл бұрын

I am inclined to agree with sststr, go for quality of qunatity and keep yourself sane, even if that means skipping a day or two. We arn't going anywhere ;]

@MrChickennugget360

7 жыл бұрын

fuck you Metatron

@zerrowolf6747

7 жыл бұрын

this did crack me up a bit, completely out of the blue lol

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

This Mr.Chickennuget surely is a true gentleman and a bright example to us all ;)

Another proof and exemple why you're in my eyes the best reviewing historian on KZread. This video again was full with clear information. Wich we can use for our reenactment clothing and color selection. Thank you Metatron!

I really enjoy your channel, good information, good sources and references, very well presented.

1.40 am looks at subscription box a Metatron video and about Rome no less. BTW hello from Canada.

Great video, as always! Just a few things, Polybius was long dead by Caesar's time, so he wouldn't be describing his campaigns. Also the problem with Vegetius isn't so much that he wasn't in the army but that he lived right at the very end of the empire by which time, as you no doubt already know, the Legions had changed profoundly. Grazie mille per il tuo lavoro and per l'informazione, l'ho trovata molto interessante.

Metatron your videos are absolutely wonderful. I have received such a great insight into the Roman world and culture by watching your videos. I admire the depth of your knowledge about this age in history as well as your mastery of ancient Latin spoken and written. I consider your videos a must see for anyone who wants an in depth crash course about all facets of the time of this great Roman civilization. I am curious if you are English or Italian? Thank You Very Much for Great Works!

It is great to have found this living History Channel on KZread. I will be instigating his videos further. Great Work, Sir!!!

polybius couln't have possible written about julius caesar as he was dead at that time. u mixed up some other writer as for vegetius - the main problem is being him a later author so his description of earlier periods might be compromised

@kevinhendryx665

6 жыл бұрын

I have also wondered about the Polybius mix-up. Maybe he meant Tacitus or Livy.

@SNP-1999

5 жыл бұрын

@@Thetarget1 I immediately thought there must be a mistake when Metatron quoted "Polybios", which couldn't possibly be right. I thought he must have meant correctly either Plutarch or Cassius Dio, as my first two bets.

If blue and red are cheap why can't you mix them up to make purple? Or does my first grade science not apply here

@AlyssaGrawey

7 жыл бұрын

My guess would be that it just makes brown because of the different materials.

@TheCsel

7 жыл бұрын

Gloin79 they may not mix well being made of different substances and dyes set differently so they won't wash out.

@Gloin79

7 жыл бұрын

well we all know everyone wore brown in the past, you can see it in all the movies :p

@Khaiell

7 жыл бұрын

Mixing blue and red would give them dull violet instead of vibrant purple. Close but the difference would be visible and mocked at a posh party :-)

@2adamast

7 жыл бұрын

Mixing blue and red gives violet? Only in a RGB screen world.

You always seem to amaze with your knowledge and research. Thanks.

Thanks for a very interesting video! I video whose topic I haven't thought a second about before but I came out more knowledgeable afterwards!

6:37 I think the word you are looking for is “tribunes”

Can you make a video about Roman exploration? Where did they go? Did they ever trade with Chinese?

@alessandromangiapia9819

7 жыл бұрын

Slashplite I think I have heard in a TV documentary that in China they even had a mercenary army from Rome, described as "they fight like the scales of a snake " in referral to their testudo. Also they have found some roman coins in China. I could be wrong because I don't have the exact source, but the TV program was from a famous Italian documentarist (Alberto Angela), known to be quite serious 😁

@TheCrimsonAtom

7 жыл бұрын

The Romans most defiantly traded with the Chinese and Indians, whether they went there or not I have no idea..

@sophiejones7727

7 жыл бұрын

not directly. They knew about China, but not very many Romans ever went there. They also didn't have a clear idea of where it was, and certainly no idea how big it was. On maps it occasionally appears as a small nation just east of "Sogdia": but obviously this is not at all accurate. If there were Romans who had been to China, they obviously weren't divulging what they knew. More likely, for the most part, the Chinese came to the Romans.

@trentwilis2582

7 жыл бұрын

Sophie Jones But was China a United nation at that time?

@sophiejones7727

7 жыл бұрын

I don't know much Chinese history, so I'm not 100% sure how politically united they were. The region was vaguely known as "Chin" or "China" to the Persians, Seleucids and Romans. This might have represented an economic confederation rather than a political entity though, I'm not sure. +Metatron, do you know what was up in China circa the 1st Century BC?

kinda random but metatron dude youre awesome. I love when I see true honest people who have great intentions like yourself. knowledge is the most priceless of all our resources. thank you. and its kinda weird huh like. that one saying . u either got it or u don't for a lot of things in life. and you got it. u got something that just makes you so charismatic and addictive to watch

Very informative..thank you.. Learned a lot!!!

Would you be able to do a video about the Roman soldiers that were used by the Parthians against the ancient Han empire? I recently read a little about this and I wondered what your thoughts on it were?

I'm redy to hear what you red about roman tunics. Aite, I'll see myself out.

@thanossakogiannis9123

7 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Fischer -_-

@poiuytrewq11422

6 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Fischer You're the reason that The Bronze Bull was invented.

@hazardous0887

6 жыл бұрын

*slow clap*

@nathandecrom2409

6 жыл бұрын

Nail him to a foking cross.

@cazek445

6 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Fischer I'm a god gremmer

This channel is amazing! I love all his videos and always will

I don't think I've ever finished one of your videos. I think I'm hooked but then I click on another video I find interesting.

Dear metatron I really enjoy your videos. I feel your debunking ones are a bit harsh as those videos are clearly made for a more casual audience. All the same really enjoy your work, and was wondering what's your opinion on the movie the last sumarai both in historic accuracy and just as a movie in general.

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

I think I will make a video about that film eventually ;)

@kaladin7487

7 жыл бұрын

Metatron I'd like to see a video on it!

@maximaldinotrap

6 жыл бұрын

Be prepared for a little bit of rage from it when he does lol.

The quote about Caesar ordering the purple tunic to be hung in front of his tent is very interesting. Are you completely sure that it is from Polybius? I have read his Historia and can't remember that he referred to any Caesar. Seing as the most famous Caesar, being Gaius Julius, lived some 40 years after Polybius it would be rather strange if Polybius mentioned him or any of his successors.

@MrScovanx

7 жыл бұрын

I would like to know the answer to this as well.

@petra123987

7 жыл бұрын

Rickard Öberg He made a mistake, it was Plutarch. There is a clarification in the video description.

@Hellwinofficial

7 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice that. Thanks for letting me know :)

@2adamast

7 жыл бұрын

"They never mention bibliography" vs I just quote a random author.

@Hellwinofficial

7 жыл бұрын

@Sam Percy that is correct as far as I know aswell :)

Excellent video, this is a topic that I had wondered about.

This is the first Metatron video I've seen. Heard the channels name in list referring to similar channels such as Shadiversity and Skallagrim. Really enjoyed the video and love the proper latin pronunciations of Caesar and v words. As well as the accent.

I find it hard to believe that with all the frescos in Pompeii that there isn't a single image of a soldier wearing a tunic of some color.

So was there a standardisation of Roman equipment at any time? I know there was a military reform in later Roman history, but wasn't there any army standard, any piece of equipment provided by the state?

@krixpop

7 жыл бұрын

I used to know about swords , shields and pillum being issued by the state.... , but now I am not so sure ... hm , indeed how was the equipment provided ? good question !

@krixpop

7 жыл бұрын

oh ok cool , good to know Thanks :D

@TarebossT

3 жыл бұрын

The belts

Great video as always Metatron !

You are amazing! And i need to say, a love the videos about Elder Scrolls. Hello from Brazil.

Turns out the Romans were wearing green

The idea that there was a uniform military garb for the Roman army seems to have come about from Trajan's column, which shows Roman soldiers wearing identical Lorica Segmentata while fighting the very diversely attired Dacians. The problem of course is that Trajan's column is rather propagandastic triumphant iconography and can't be trusted to provide a realistic view of the Roman army.

@TarebossT

4 жыл бұрын

_diversely attired Dacians_ ...? Not really. Noblemen wear "pileus" that Phrygian style cap and the rest did not. The other clothing elements were the same.

This video: 10/10 Your channel in general: 10/10 Now let's continue binge watching. :D

Very cool video! Very informative!

Excellent vid! One of the best you've done. One thing though; the plural of armour is armour - not "armours". It is an irregular plural noun; so armour, not armours.

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

So I should say "here we have two armour?"

@bloodypine22

7 жыл бұрын

Metatron Here we have two sets of armour

@georgedebleu

7 жыл бұрын

Incorrect. It would be, "men wearing different _types of_ armour, such as Milanese or Gothic plate". It is an irregular plural noun that is unchanged in its use, ergo the spelling does not change in plural form. For example, you would not say (or write) "the different deers, such as Mule or White Tail", you'd say (or write), "the different deer, such as Mule or White Tail". or, "the different types of deer, such as Mule or White Tail". A few more examples of unchanged irregular plural nouns would be: sheep, offspring and aircraft.

@sameash3153

3 жыл бұрын

You guys are mixing up mass nouns and irregular plurals Deer is a different case than armor, which works like other words like pants, grass, information, with a "type of", "set of", "pair of", "patch of" whatever, before it. Deer, fish, chicken, doesn't require that construction because those nouns are inherited from an old neuter plural pattern in Old English. These words are differentiated by articles, "I see a deer", "I see deer" (note that "the deer" is ambiguous).

@TarebossT

3 жыл бұрын

English is such a fucked up language...

what colour was the tunic before applying any dye?

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

A slightly darker/dirty shade of white which would vary depending on the fabric used either wool or linen.

@asnard2346

7 жыл бұрын

A-ha...

@MCAroon09

5 жыл бұрын

most pure things are white

@khankrum1

5 жыл бұрын

Lime bleach was used to make fabric white. fabrics are not "pure" until bleached and dyed.

@Williaem00

5 жыл бұрын

I have a white tunic I purchased at a medieval Faire, it’s quality. What could I use to dye it red ??!! Any good dyes to get the Roman color red ?

BTW, I do appreciate the effort you make to read and check on your ideas. So far, I find your interpretations make sense, and I like that you remind people that Rome existed for long period, and its customs and actions differed over time. I like that you remind people that history is complex and that true certainty is rare.

Awsome fresco. The big heads and small limbs really remind me of modern comic/manga art. Great video!

How would the colour white be produced? Or rather, how did the process of making white tunics go? Would that have been cheaper than any other colour?

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

When we say white we mean the natural colour of wool, so a kind of dirty white, and yes that's the cheapest option for sure.

@ChapBloke

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks, so really we should imagine legionaries(?) wearing a mixture of tunic colours, but mostly grey/yellowish white?

@fizikshizik

7 жыл бұрын

Why you think that legionaries should wear the cheapest possible option??? What are they, the army of hobos? Have you ever seen what happens with soldier looks when the uniform discipline relaxes? Have you ever seen the pictures of soldiers of the past? Bling of war! If you look dirty cheap you are either a rookie or on a very hard campaign or a loser...

@ChapBloke

7 жыл бұрын

I wasn't suggesting they were a bunch of unwashed, unshaven extras from a Conan movie. Rather that it wouldn't have looked like Hollywood where everyone has the same armour and tunic. I just considered that the economics of investing in amour and equipment vs investing in a fancy tunic, a recruit might prefer to skimp on the latter. Then again it's very possible commanders would like to have all their men wearing the same colour, we don't know.

@eldricgrubbidge6465

7 жыл бұрын

I believe historically the easiest way to produce bleach was from urine. I'm not sure about the Roman Empire specifically though

I just had a realization. Mr Metatron, is there a connection between Mars and MARtial arts? Was the term "martial" derived from Mars?

@thiagocarvalho3882

7 жыл бұрын

demomanchaos Yes It was

@dernwine

7 жыл бұрын

A lot of English words have Latin roots (either directly from Latin or via old French).

@nastrael

7 жыл бұрын

demomanchaos Yes, the Latin root of martial is "martialis", which means "of, or pertaining to, Mars" which, with Mars being the God of War, implies "of, or pertaining to, War". Hence the modern meaning of "martial".

@christosvoskresye

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, it comes from MARSupial. Think "Perry the Platypus".

@Fynedge

7 жыл бұрын

There is also a connection to March (or Mars in French), as it was the start of the campaign season after a winter's rest.

This is awesome, very in depth, thanks

Awesome video :) thank you!

"If it works, it just- it just works."

Red is cooler, that's the point.

@TarebossT

3 жыл бұрын

Red attracts bulls

@Transgender-ProphetMohammed

3 жыл бұрын

Red goes fastaaa!

@Pvinini

3 жыл бұрын

Curse you Danish

As always interesting and informative.

Definitely one of my new favourite channels

I must know from where is the intro song

@dtg610420

7 жыл бұрын

Theya Alexandru Peanci agreed I have absolutely love it

@egrif

7 жыл бұрын

Theya Alexandru Peanci I believe he has made a dedicated video about this. Try searching in his chanel (:

@theyaalexandrupeanci6831

7 жыл бұрын

jeharnes I will you noble one

@SultanOfAwesomeness

7 жыл бұрын

+Theya Alexandru Peanci I had the same question not so long ago. He uses Knights Templar 1 and 2 by Johannas Bornlöf

@theyaalexandrupeanci6831

7 жыл бұрын

Sultan Thx Sultan, I shall remember it

First time im early to a vid

@Paul-oi2wz

7 жыл бұрын

me as well

@theaussiebogan9680

7 жыл бұрын

Also cant beleive i got first comment

Thanks for the video, it was very interesting.

I've been dyeing to know this information! XD Great video!

it is a common misconception to think the Roman's opened trade routes to China, in truth there is little evidence that any trader would travel any significant distance across the silk road, it was not economical to go from China even all the way to Persia let alone Mediterranean.. it was more a relay system of many merchants traveling short distances, it is also why the price and value of good went up so much as they moved because there were a great deal of middle men. a few Chinese explorers and monks did go all the way to India and often to Persia but the Parthians and Sassanids acted as a middle man between Han China and Roman Mediterranean guarding there position jealously as there was great wealth to be made

@AmanShah187

7 жыл бұрын

the sogdians are the best example of a silk road empire based purely on trade, check them out if you are interested in silk road economics the word sogdian even became the word for merchant across the silk road as they were so prevalent in the trade

Pfff, did they wear red? Everybody knows even in WW I everything was black and white 🤔😉

Very good video, thank you very much!

Meta, here I am watching an old video. and look at this you got 350k subscribers now. good on you brother!

Are you implying that blue was exclusive to naval forces ? How about blue tunics of Tiberius Gracchus army in 2015 Jackie Chan's movie "Dragon Blade" ?

@mjavdani3085

7 жыл бұрын

Oh and I really want to know more about the Roman's lost legion !!! PLZ !!!!

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Not really implying it was exclusive, I'm only saying that Vegetius mentions naval only, but that doesn't mean other units chose blue considering it was cheap. ;)

@TheYOUwatchTV

7 жыл бұрын

what about tehe airforce?

@forgiven36511

6 жыл бұрын

Tim/Pol/ I just got a picture in my head of Roman soldiers launching each other out of catapults...

@allmightlionthunder5515

6 жыл бұрын

Very little is know of that army coz it was wiped from history so its said ! . The Roman's lost legions Scotland one about an eagle , Germany dumb one of Varus , China . The terrain best them in Germany tree all over the place not for unit fighting really same with Scotland tree and hills ! . Roman solders was open filed fighting mostly the field of Mars field of battle ! .

What do you personally think about how the Greek painted their sculptures compared to the romans who kept them raw white.

@cazek445

6 жыл бұрын

Jouri Wiemes The romans also had colors... Most of the colors went away because of how old it was. Pompeii had colors.

@dwightehowell8179

6 жыл бұрын

Some of the Roman statues of the wives of Emperors were made in such a way that the hair could be replaced as styles changed. You can rest assured that these beauties were properly colored at least until after her ladyship had be replaced.

wow great video specially all the info on the dying process...... really amazing content ....(sorry for the spelling not sure if correct) but again incredible content, keep doing what u do sir Metatron. Just wanted to say you're very fluent in the way you share your knowledge and im ever so grateful for it, hope you had a great easter

@metatronyt

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much indeed, I'm glad you liked it! :3

great video man. well done,,,👌

Imagine romans wearing pink ... or rainbow colours ... that would make them a fabulous army :P

@Speederzzz

7 жыл бұрын

aleš Matoh +

@paprskomet

7 жыл бұрын

There are actually pics showing them in pink shades tunics .-)...however it was only in late 19th century that pink started to be associated with females in western world.

@davidquezada50

7 жыл бұрын

aleš Matoh be one amazing sight before they rekt your culture and religion xD

@alesmatoh4625

7 жыл бұрын

+David Quezada worth it :P

@ZanOGAL

6 жыл бұрын

the Bi empire

Did Roman soldiers need to buy their armour after the Marian reforms, or were they given their equipment by the state/general? Because if you have to buy the equipment - what's the point of allowing the poor into the legions?

@petreius91

7 жыл бұрын

dIRECT0R equipment was a statal duty si ce the times of Furius Camillus.

@dIRECTOR259

7 жыл бұрын

No, the Marian reforms allowed the poor into the legions. Before that everybody had to have their own equipment. AFTER the Marian reforms (which were obviously instituted for the manpower), did soldiers still need to buy their equipment? I don't think so, it doesn't make much sense - what's the point if you still had to have enough money.

@dIRECTOR259

7 жыл бұрын

Why is Metatron talking about legionnaires buying their armour??

@petreius91

7 жыл бұрын

dIRECT0R no, the "census" was a form of warranty for the state. If i give you an armour and you die in the first battle, i loose my investment. With census rules your assets could indemnify the Republica. With Marian reform the warranty is only the stipendium, and the Republica accepts to loose money in equipment which will never refund in order to recruit more people.

@dIRECTOR259

7 жыл бұрын

I don't understand your English... and its Res Publica. That wasn't the name of the state either.

Very interesting. I love historical tidbits like these on how "common life" was performed. Such as making colors and what colors people wore.

Interesting video as always.

I know c is pronounced like a k but it’s weird to my ears to hear Julius keye-sar

"Fragments of surviving clothing and wall paintings indicate that the basic tunic of the Roman soldier was of red or undyed (off-white) wool". - Sumner, Graham (2009). Roman Military Dress. Stroud: The History Press.

I just watched your video about accents and intonation, and it jumped out at me the way you said indigo. You put the emphasis in the middle of the word, like inDIgo, where as I've always heard it as INdigo.

you should do a wardrobe tour of your armour and uniforms. and how you store them haha btw awsome content, very interesting about the making of dye

Did you mean Polybius, or Plutarch?

@13tuyuti

7 жыл бұрын

I knew it couldn´t be Polybius so I was wondering who else it could have been. Plutarch seems like reasonable suggestion. Thanks.

@Nethan2000

7 жыл бұрын

It's Plutarch, The Life of Pompey, chapter 68

@MichaelCorryFilms

7 жыл бұрын

yeah I know, I was trying to hint to metatron but don't think he ever saw my message. Polybius lived a long time but not THAT long...

SPQR!

@mrmoth26

5 жыл бұрын

I have your profile picture as my wallpaper.

@angelsfallfirst7348

4 жыл бұрын

Is there a link to the painting that I could have?

Really enjoying your videos on Roman history and the language. Always wondered how they pronounced circus?

Long videos about Roman history? Keep them coming!