SPEEDMASTER all the way

@themachine2255

13 күн бұрын

Manual wind GAAAAAY

How do people not understand that this channel is about the amazing banter, depth of knowledge, and hilarious one liners. People arguing with you about your choices just misses the point IMO. Great two watches. Great two presenters. Cheers and keep ‘em comin.

"Tito and Chips with their new hit Roly Roly". That was gold. 😅

@philipblockf2857

3 ай бұрын

The 1940s radio voice made me lose it

@andoletube

3 ай бұрын

@@philipblockf2857 If this were 20 years ago, these guys would have been on breakfast radio - and been pretty successful. Naturally funny pair.

One is my grail one is made of unobtainium

Omega, hands down. You get a model that has actually done something, has variety, is proven. Compared to a watch that failed - professionally and when originally sold - and is now only famous because of a future philanthropic ranch dressing salesman and the name on the tin.

@woozertoo

3 ай бұрын

While I’ve reached the same conclusion as you, horologically speaking, Paul Newman was much more than a philanthropic ranch dressing salesman.

@KC93SE

3 ай бұрын

@@woozertoo oh I understand, actor, driver, philanthropist, and probably many more things. It is the fact that it took a celebrity to make this Rolex popular and in high demand.

When I got into watches several years ago I wanted nothing more then a Kermit, after discovering this channel and learning how Rolex treats their customers, I am planning on buying a Hesalite Speedy for my upcoming 40th Birthday this year and couldn’t be happier.

I have chosen the Speedmaster Haselite version. The legibility of the watch is amazing. It doesn't matter if it is 12:00h and direct sunlight... there is no glare. You are perfectly able to tell the time or use the stopwatch. Try this with the Daytona... your eyes will burn. The Speedmaster has is 1,5T resistance, which is an equivalent to a small MRI. Since I am working in a strong magnetic environment. That is important 😊 Nice video as usual 👌

Thanks 🙏 Although it ne is not available and the other they throw at one at every corner, I favor the Speedy over the Daytona

"mooning people as I go" only one reason why I ❤ your Channel! THANKS! Good Educainment!

“😂😂😂 oooh bop it” Genuinely my audible reaction 😂😂

Came with the JOKES today! Loved it, you had me chuckling out loud multiple times. Great work fellas.

I love how you set us up with a „Stanley Kubrick” joke in the beginning and it pays off pretty quickly… and then it pays off later again! ❤️

Speedy for me. Preder the case shape, crystal, movement, history and vintage vibe. Like the daytona dont get me wrong but prefer the speedy

Have both ...enjoy both equally but they are very different watches on the wrist. I personally like steel bezels ....my speedy is a 57 and not pro ...and I prefer the 116520 over the new ceramic . I do like the brushed bezel on the speedy 57 though. The shiny bezel on the Daytona is a bit too bling for a daily wearing but that's just me

The old format of videos was so much better. This is really just photos of watches and commentary

If I had only those two options probably Daytona, but if I had any option Tudor Black Bay Chrono for everyday wear. It's basically a chronograph dive watch, probably won't get mugged for it and good value per dollar.

My Speedmaster 3952.50 has a hesalite front, sapphire back and gilt movement. Perfect.

Not sure why Omega doesn't use one of their modem column wheel calibres for the Moonwatch, like the Calibre 321 has, rather than the 3861 that's arguably an older tech calibre.

@michaelhayward107

3 ай бұрын

Because it's simply not needed. Column Wheels and Cams: Surprising What Tech Can Learn From Horology is just one of many examples of the misconceptions regarding column vs cam lever chronographs.

They don't make it any more but a hesalite front sapphire display back model of the basic speedmaster pro does exist

@Entertainer114

3 ай бұрын

Would love to know more. Do you know the year/ballpark of when it would've been released?

@glostergloster6945

3 ай бұрын

I would prefer a sapphire front and hesalite display back. I dont like my watches getting scratched up, hesalite is warmer to the touch and therefore better suited to being on your skin, and you can still see through it.

@Entertainer114

3 ай бұрын

@@glostergloster6945 good point! Probably makes the most sense, given you can't scratch the caseback if it's against your wrist. Still, I like the domed crystal of the hesalite - it gives the dial some added depth that I think is more attractive to look at (albeit more scratchable) than the flat sapphire. That said, if Omega ever offered a *domed* sapphire crystal on the front, along with a see-through caseback for the movement, that might be the best of both worlds.

@ABC-fl8zb

3 ай бұрын

@@Entertainer114 Look up hesalite sandwich and you'll find more details on reference numbers etc. Think they were made late 80s to early 2000s

1979 speedy owner here I think you know my feelings on the subject

I think -Zenith chronomaster sport el primero - is the best looking chronograph watch on the market

@kkrsnn5632

3 ай бұрын

that one has grest looks

@bartschellekens6757

3 ай бұрын

I own a blue tudor heritage chrono the monte carlo remake

@giogioghcffghb

3 ай бұрын

@@kkrsnn5632 nice, I own speedmaster pro , but really want Zenith too. Tudor panda type is one of the option Im thinking to get

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Yeah but it's not as reliable. Mine is a lemon 🙄

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

​@@kkrsnn5632but not great reliability...got both, after 3rd servicing i threw it in the drawer 🙄 f* lemon

I don’t think the Daytona is more famous than the Submariner 🤷‍♂️ It’s called the Cosmograph because that was the original chronograph name before being renamed. The Cosmograph (with Valjoux 72 manually movement) was the watch submitted to NASA in 1964 but it catastrophically failed the high temperature tests when the hands melted together & the watch became inoperable.

My dady bought one NKUWAN and he loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when he went out with it.

If I’m gonna spend 15k on a chronograph, I’m getting the 321 speedmaster. Let alone 30k

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Correct!🎉 Much classier and subtle

I wish the steel back on the hesalite can easily be flipped open to see the movement! 😂 I still like the steel back, more like the original but I still want to see the movement.

Always great with you two 😊

speedy is the golden ratio!

Been recently in AD in London where I registered interest for Sub date black dial. When I asked regarding the Daytona steel version they replied that the register list is closed, but you can get some gold version Daytona instead

@silveriver9

3 ай бұрын

There is no "list"

@ms.annthrope415

3 ай бұрын

So I bought the steel and gold Daytona as the all steel is less expensive but unobtainable.

1:03 what a beauty the 16520

@Carbonpolter

3 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree! To add this though: It looks very similar to a Speedmaster 😂

One of your best videos. Absolutely hilarious!

13:47 Precisely the reason why I went with the 3572.50, mullet all the way!

OMEGA All the way. And if people were to know about Rolex, they will know that Rolex have never been an Innovator in the Chronograph field, and depended on third parties for its first Daytona offerings, and it was one of them that failed the NASA Qualification Testing. What I have my eyes on is in the Omega 3861 and the Seiko Tentagraph. The only thing Rolex is KING is Marketing.

Omega for the Enthusiasts, Rolex for the investors.

@fontyyy

3 ай бұрын

I presume you didn't buy a steel Daytona at market value 18 months ago!

@DC-uf6ve

3 ай бұрын

And middle managers at a stationary company

@giovannibucio

3 ай бұрын

You mean rolex for the status symbol

@DC-uf6ve

3 ай бұрын

@@giovannibucio status: I don't know anything about watches or quality?

@Yorkshiremadmick

3 ай бұрын

No I do not aspire to own an Omega

Having owned both, each has their high points and things they could do better. Winding a Speedmaster is an utter pain, even the hand-crankers, plus the sapphire sandwich makes for a needlessly beefy watch. On the plus side, there's wondrous variety of sizes, movements, colors, & materials. The Daytona is downright illegible in bright light due to lack of AR and not that great even under normal light, plus the availability makes seeking one on grey market akin to buying a new car. On the plus side, it's a very compact and comfortable watch to wear, has better water resistance, and is unquestionably seen as a status watch atm. Which one should you get? The one that makes you smile the most when you look at it.

321 speedmaster is pure class vs the Daytona

Good choices gentlemen, I’ll have one of each thanks.

Have owned both. I still have the Speedy Pro. The Daytona is too noticeable by thieves so you can’t wear them everywhere you want. Nobody really bothers you with the Speedy. Similarly, I can wear my Blancpain everyday and not worry about it cause no one knows what it is. Prefer watches like that.

You’ll see more Daytonas on the grey market sales page than actually worn on a wrist!

Speedmaster is the real tool watch. It looks the business. It looks like it’s made for a job. Rolex, while beautiful, is jewelry. It looks like it belongs in a vault, or maybe with a fancy suit to a wedding. The Speedy can be worn to the same wedding, if not as elegant as the Daytona, but it would also be at home as a daily driver. I couldn’t wear the Daytona to anything other than some really fancy occasions. I can wear the Speedy every day to work and enjoy it so much.

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Throw in the speedmaster 321

@ms.annthrope415

Ай бұрын

I wear my Daytona for the office. I wouldn't wear it as a daily beater, that's what my Sub was for. Now my GMTII is a much better daily wear. For the gun range, to camping, road trips (though I pack my 1911 .45 as well), I also include my Omega Planet Ocean as a daily beater. If I'm really anticipating some rough wear, I have Seiko Tuna Prospex MarineMaster.

The only speedmaster comparable to the Daytona is the 321

As Tom's slide into madness continues Andrew has now been drawn in. Brilliant lads! To the watches. Neither for me. In their own ways both Daytona and Speedy have been marketeered to death IMO. Me? I'd take a Hanhart chronograph, Pioneer or Racemaster. Wait, for Speedy money I'll take one each please!

Well, it's quite easy the speedmaster of course. Why would you want to wait years on a waiting list to get a daytona or pay over market price.

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Speedmaster 321 is at least 2 yrs wait list. But I'd still pick the 321 speedmaster over the Daytona. They're in the same price range too.

I dont know if it is Daytona, I would say Submariner that has more history and not only high price since Paul Newman hipe since it was not popular in the 70, 80s.

I own a new Speedmaster “sapphire sandwich” 3861 and I absolutely love it. But let’s not kid ourselves. The Rolex Daytona is far superior for wearing on Earth.

When will they announce that Andrew has left for greater things outside of Watchfinder?

Speedmaster Racing Co-Axail, with white face. That's the one I bought & I love it. I did consider the moon watch but no one has ever been to the moon. I didn't want to wear a lie, so my decision was made.

Both great watches, but to me Speedmaster all the way.❤❤❤ (I admit, I have them) Not just because of the nasa and the moon. Looks better, feels better on hand, looks great on every strap, bracelet, rope...chrono easier to use, and I like the design overall. Don't care about the value, I never sell anything I buy, it gets valuable to me, once I get it.

I'd like both, but if I have to pick one, it's the Speedmaster. It simply looks sleeker and better.

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Classier less ostentatious and loud. But the TRUE head to head comparison should be the 321 speedmaster similar price range as the Daytona.

I was at a party in a high end watch store last year with free food and booze. The place was packed, except for the Omega room that was empty.

@verynormalman

3 ай бұрын

I was there. All of us Omega people left, because the Rolex people were boring the arse off us.

@TomJones-tx7pb

3 ай бұрын

lol good one. Everyone was looking at Grand Seiko watches, not Rolex. And I left also.@@verynormalman

@TomJones-tx7pb

3 ай бұрын

lol good one. Everyone was looking at Grand Seiko watches, not Rolex. And I left also.@@verynormalman

Speedmaster. Not even close

Look, I'd get the 321 version of the Omega. You can even go white gold Speedy and still be way under the radar that a Daytona would trip.

The comparison should rather be Rolex Daytona vs Omega Speedmaster 321. MY choice is done, I sold my Daytona many years ago and went for the Speedmaster ;)

Speedie sapphire sandwich without hesitation. I nearly ordered a Daytona in 1989 but wait list was two years, so bought a sea dweller 16660. Glad I did as it’s a fantastic timepiece and still looks great today. Daytona is far too ostentatiously obvious for a mugging when you wear everyday. Speedie is not so blatantly expensive to untrained eye.

Has anyone bought a sapphire caseback for a hesilate version and changed it over?.. would anyone attempt this?

@PhinallyWC08

3 ай бұрын

I believe for a brief time Omega actually offered the hesalite with a sapphire caseback. I don’t see why you wouldn’t be able to

@Murph_82

3 ай бұрын

@@PhinallyWC08 thanks. I ment would you attempt to remove the back of the hesalite for a glass back

@YesterdayWentTooSoon

2 ай бұрын

I did this and it looks great. Bought one from Spiralwinder

@Murph_82

2 ай бұрын

@@YesterdayWentTooSoon any issues doing it?

@YesterdayWentTooSoon

2 ай бұрын

@@Murph_82 No, none at all. They send you a tool to unscrew the back and then you just screw the new glass one on. Takes a couple of minutes.

Andrew can so be a great voice actor😂 Also, i agree with tom. Seamaster for me 😊

I think the most famous watch in the world is the Rolex Sub. Even pawn shop owners wear them. Used car salesmen wear them.

I had a Speedmaster, and let it go after 3 years. No regrets so far. The Daytona in stainless steel is ok, but the Daytona in white or rose gold is simply gorgeous.

Rolex as a brand may be the greatest that the watch industry has to offer. Saying "X is the Rolex of Y" (as an example "Ferrari is the Rolex of Sportcars") and having everyone understand what you mean is proof of the street cred... BUT NO WATCH CAN OUTRANK THE SPEED MASTER, NOBODY CAN, NOBODY IS CLOSE!

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Yes TRUE. Speedmaster is PURITY.

Ahhhhp yeah, it's an eazy one, SpeedMaster. The one thar maybe it's better the Speedy it's Zenith in this category

Speedy all day long. Even if I won the lottery tomorrow I’d choose a Zenith El Primero before the Daytona. Hell I’d even have Breitling Navitimer over the Daytona! The only thing better on the Rolex is the bracelet. Otherwise it just as screams “everybody look at me and my wealth!” And I own a Rolex OP as well as a new co-axial Speedy so I’m not brand biased. The Speedy is understated, elegant, strap monster and famous for having achieved something real not for maybe having been worn by a famous actor!

@WatchsNBoots

3 ай бұрын

Breitling Navitimer is a work of art l.

@glostergloster6945

3 ай бұрын

And if you win the lottery and you want to show off you also have a selection of gold speedies to choose from.

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! I no longer wear Rolex Bec it's become so bad. It's for posers nowadays Speedy is low key class and enthusiast watch. Always relevant never loud.

It must of been Friday afternoon when the gents were filming. Nipping at the rum candy it seems.

Honestly, I’m a Rolex fan, especially over most of the omega catalog, but the Daytona never interested me. However I also hate the constant moon this and moon that of the Speedmaster. But as a watch, here on earth, the speedy is fantastic! So it’s hands down (at 6:30 anyway) the winner for me!

You guys were having way too much fun, and I love it. Thanks for another great video.

My favorite ever.

On the Dayton, including the Rolex name and the Swiss Made verbiage, there are seven total lines of text on the dial. Too much.

The two are magnificent ,but The user of The speedmaster is a fan of Car racing, as it is said in Brazil “raiz” fanatic while The Daytona user is more fãshionable and in Brazil it is said “Nutela” but bote watches are perfects

I have neither, but who wouldn’t get a Daytona if they could get either at retail?

Always liked the design language of the Daytona. But hated all the associations with the watch. New white Speedmaster all the way.

Why not just pick up a Speedmaster with the hesalite front and buy the Sapphire case back separately

Speedmaster much more historic. Moon landing and everything. But Omega has beat it to death. Too many variations of variations and limited editions of the Speedmaster. Doesn't seems "special" anymore. Played out, IMHO. On the other hand, the Daytona is famous and hyped, albiet probably one of the most illegible watches there is. This panda especially. Definitely the Daytona it at retail. However, since that is next to impossible for most, I guess I'll never own either. 😉😂

@Mega-zi7ys

2 ай бұрын

Try the 321 speedmaster

Omega collector here of course am here to say OMEGA all day everyday.

Im blessed to have both. A stainless steel and gold Daytona with white face and gold subdials. And a classic stainless steel Speedmaster Pro with black face and Hesalite crystal. The Daytona was actually so slow selling in the 60s and 70s that dealers were giving steep discounts and even steeper discounts if you bought a gold date just or gold day date. Then in the 1980s, the yuppie trend started and Rolex gained traction along with single malt scotch and Gucci loafers. The Daytona got a lot of traction with Paul Newman's Datyona Panda. The all stainless Daytona is actually much less expensive than the gold and steel, but much more in demand, so all steel is never available. I bought the gold and steel, and although i wasn't crazy about two tone, it grew on me and it just looks elegant. So accurate and such finesse in the way the pushers and crown feels. When i was working as a prosecuting attorney, and took a case to jury trial, i would wear my best power suit, power tie, highly polished Allen Edmunds tassled loafers, and my gold and steel Daytona. It was my good luck charm.

as a watch for me the daytona , but the speedmaster is still a legendary watch imo

owning both the answer is the speedy

Oh brother! The 19,856th video on Speedmaster and Daytona.

They are clearly different…for watch connaisseurs. If price is not an issue, you’ll figure out that the demand leans more to the Daytona.

It’s February, nice Xmas break 😂

Tom's coolest watch is his eye of the Tiger Daytona super clone.

Bad title, should have said Omega Speedmaster in 2024 vs Rolex Daytona in 2034 (just wondering is anybody on the origonal wait list still waiting) OK a bit piffy but hell why not, great video as ever love these videos with you two👌

@verynormalman

3 ай бұрын

My friend has been on the list since 2006! Is that a record?

@robertstrickland9371

3 ай бұрын

@@verynormalman 😱Wow,that's staying power. Maybe a record, I'd love to put that out to the community. If it is, get hold of the guiness book of records and then send it off to Rolex, n shame the buggers.

@verynormalman

3 ай бұрын

@@robertstrickland9371 It's not good is it. I liked your joke about reviewing the 2034 Daytona. Very funny! Thanks for making me laugh.

Speedy is just class without the distractions

The most telling line “I was actually going to say Seamaster 300 is better than both of them”.

GUYS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE you HAVE to do a full Tito and Chips Rollie Rollie skit/song

In the metal the Daytona looks too busy

Hot take but I don’t like the Daytona. Too busy and screw down pushers make the chrono more of a novelty than a tool. GMT is way more usable and better looking, and more youthful.

Speedmaster 💪🏼! Daytona- maybe, vintage. Maybe 😉

Which of these is a name of a Rolex series? Space Daytona Ocean

@djnickhodgkins

3 ай бұрын

NONE

All 1861 and 3861 have the same defective problem. chrono min, hour hand Alignment error during chrono operation. Time Hour and minute hand alignment error. Min hand jumping while turning the crown. This is a problem that does not even occur with the Tag or Hamilton Chrono. All 5 moonwatches on display at the store had the same defective, and I bought the watch with the smallest defective, later on the service center decided it was normal, so I am just using it with disappointment, but it is always annoying. This is why many people love Rolex Daytona. perfection.

@meetseth3

3 ай бұрын

Agreed . Moon this , moon that- but Rolex is the real winner

@andyburton9201

3 ай бұрын

Don’t have that issue with my co-axial Speedy!

The it was the first watch on the moon has lost any weight to argument, what percentage of people that have a watch suitable for diving use that watch for diving, and what percentage of people that have a speedmaster have worn it it space.

I doubt very much that even with the 50m rating is technically the same as a 200m+ dive rated watch, I don't very very much that a Speed master would fail dabbling in the pool. There are watch geeks and there is the real world.😂

I love speedmaster because of the story behind it. I love it. The daytona is very pretty but i cant justify the price in comparison to the omega

Watch enthusiasts prefer the moonwatch, Muggles the Daytona. If you can get Daytona from Ad fair enough, grey market price is higher than the sum of its parts. I'd rather the moonwatch, from Ad, with the nice discount, and opportunity to spend the difference on a second watch.

It’s pretty clear what watch is more desirable to the public. Proofs in the pudding.

@sdcoinshooter

3 ай бұрын

Exactly

@ralfybaby

3 ай бұрын

Nver overestimate the taste of the public 😆

Whats stopping the AD salesman just buying all the Daytona's then selling them for double privately? Who's stopping them. Would be a easy way to make a few hundred grand.

Rolex or omega Mmmm I think Christopher Ward belcanto titanium definitely Christopher Ward 12 titanium

1000% Speedmaster

It doesn't matter, you'll have to wait years and maybe still not get a Daytona.. But while we're talking fantasy here I would take a Daytona if offered to me. Yeah, I like a speed master slightly better.

I like chronographs, space, and money. Rolex wantrs double of my money and the Omega looks more interesting

There are many watches I originally considered ugly, boring, or messy: Omega Speedmaster, Casio G-Shock, and some more. I've grown to like them eventually. That didn't happen with the Daytona.

If I had a dollar for every time the Speedy was a Watchfinder thumbnail, I could afford a Speedy :)

For me: Speedy > Daytona however Submariner > SMP