Roku's Ransom: Agree to Forced Arbitration or Lose Your TV!

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  • @devilsoffspring5519
    @devilsoffspring55193 ай бұрын

    I expect a TV to be a video display, not a bureaucracy.

  • @verminjerky

    @verminjerky

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said.

  • @Tempo_Gigante

    @Tempo_Gigante

    3 ай бұрын

    A "smart-ass" TV. /s

  • @ThinkerOnTheBus

    @ThinkerOnTheBus

    3 ай бұрын

    He who expects nothing is never disappointed.

  • @devilsoffspring5519

    @devilsoffspring5519

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ThinkerOnTheBus Yet he who expects nothing is deceased :)

  • @Linguae_Music

    @Linguae_Music

    3 ай бұрын

    @@devilsoffspring5519 Of course, but one who is deceased, cannot be disappointed either.

  • @johndowe6161
    @johndowe61613 ай бұрын

    Forced arbitration needs to be scrapped at the federal level

  • @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr

    @ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehr

    3 ай бұрын

    No. Our entire fucking "justice" system needs to be scrapped and rewritten. The whole thing is designed to benefit those with money, and those who make money from the system.

  • @imulippo5245

    @imulippo5245

    3 ай бұрын

    Does this kind of shit happening in Europe?

  • @jstefa2

    @jstefa2

    3 ай бұрын

    @@imulippo5245 nope GDPR ftw.

  • @SeanHoulihane

    @SeanHoulihane

    3 ай бұрын

    @@imulippo5245 Fairly sure a contract has to be equitable here.

  • @godlover9096

    @godlover9096

    3 ай бұрын

    I have contacted my representative and senators. Hopefully they actually see it.

  • @deviouscat0
    @deviouscat03 ай бұрын

    It's illegal for a thief to rob you of your TV but somehow it's legal for the TV manuafacturer to rob you of your TV. That's messed up.

  • @bryonnoel4254

    @bryonnoel4254

    3 ай бұрын

    Was the full contract written on the side of the box so that it's ADA compliant? If not then the contract is not valid, there's no way for you to know and agree with a contract at the time of purchase. Therefore it's a rights violation, false advertising, and possibly many crimes.

  • @firstnamelastname956

    @firstnamelastname956

    2 ай бұрын

    Just use a different casting device?

  • @larrybud

    @larrybud

    Ай бұрын

    It's 2024, thieves can steal your house and some governments won't do anything...

  • @warwagon
    @warwagon3 ай бұрын

    aaaaand Roku just came out and said they were breached and 15,000 accounts accessed.

  • @1realtruthrightnow742

    @1realtruthrightnow742

    3 ай бұрын

    No way!!!

  • @michaelskelton7770

    @michaelskelton7770

    3 ай бұрын

    This should be highlighbted.

  • @JacobP81

    @JacobP81

    3 ай бұрын

    Wow!

  • @ClockworkCrow7

    @ClockworkCrow7

    3 ай бұрын

    No fucking wonder

  • @thebeholder5055

    @thebeholder5055

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm sure that's why they want people to agree to not sue them.

  • @jackhill6956
    @jackhill69563 ай бұрын

    Your TV used to work. Through their actions your TV no longer works. They have damaged your property. Intentionally damaging someone else's property is a crime.

  • @arkaadias2526

    @arkaadias2526

    3 ай бұрын

    Problem rises if they legally can claim that its not your property but you have the licence to use it

  • @justinpatterson5291

    @justinpatterson5291

    3 ай бұрын

    They damaged their own property. Which you have paid an extortionate amount to utilize (temporarily).

  • @SebastianAudet

    @SebastianAudet

    3 ай бұрын

    @arkaadias2526 That is not how property works - if you bought it, you own the property. The "features" it uses might include licensing of services, they can degrade their service, however modifying property you own without your consent is called a virus, and is a federal crime already. So actually what they are doing is already illegal.

  • @arkaadias2526

    @arkaadias2526

    3 ай бұрын

    @@SebastianAudet Great, where police? Cant muricans do something called citizens arrest? - i have no clue how it works tho.

  • @smugfrog8111

    @smugfrog8111

    3 ай бұрын

    @@arkaadias2526 We have 2A for such things.

  • @tonyf.9806
    @tonyf.98063 ай бұрын

    Having no ability to disagree or get disabled is called blackmail/extortion, which is a crime. I bought an Element TV and am happy with the purchase.

  • @crazywarp36

    @crazywarp36

    3 ай бұрын

    I Got a 1999 Sanyo CRT for free and I am happy with my product.

  • @robaudi20v

    @robaudi20v

    3 ай бұрын

    @@crazywarp36can't beat a CRT!

  • @CompactDisc_700MB

    @CompactDisc_700MB

    3 ай бұрын

    @@robaudi20v Yeah gotta love those CRTs. I got a small zenith for free and its well over 20 years old and still works great. Nice for DVD and VHS. I just use the computer if I want to watch something in HD like blu-ray or youtube. I had a chinese smart TV but I threw it out, failed in less than a year. what a wast of money. (edit: CRTs are also the best way to play old consoles too)

  • @Gatorade69

    @Gatorade69

    3 ай бұрын

    Use a computer monitor with an android box (IPTV ftw).

  • @tonyf.9806

    @tonyf.9806

    3 ай бұрын

    @@crazywarp36 I've owned 4 in my lifetime. First was a flatscreen JVC with VCR player when I was in 8th grade, a small 24" Insignia in early 2013 (still works), then a 32" flat panel in 2014, and when that broke (screen cracked when I moved), I replaced it with the 55" Element I have now.

  • @Person01234
    @Person012343 ай бұрын

    "TV is dying... let's make sure it dies faster!" - TV manufacturers.

  • @rikustorm13

    @rikustorm13

    3 ай бұрын

    Lol right? Wtf?

  • @iamoutofideas13
    @iamoutofideas133 ай бұрын

    What did the WEF mean when the said "you will own nothing and be happy?" This and worse.

  • @PatThePerson
    @PatThePerson3 ай бұрын

    Manufacturer: I am altering the deal, pray I don’t alter it any further.

  • @dorientjewoller113

    @dorientjewoller113

    3 ай бұрын

    Altering a deal one side without the consent of the other party is a breach of contract.

  • @zh84

    @zh84

    3 ай бұрын

    This deal's getting worse all the time.

  • @wtimber

    @wtimber

    3 ай бұрын

    Chad Vader?

  • @kevinerbs2778

    @kevinerbs2778

    3 ай бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaR5wdqGgsypfKg.html&pp=ygUwaSBoYXZlIGFsdGVyZWQgdGhlIGRlYWwgc3RhciB3YXJzIHJvYm90IGNoaWNrZW4g ^ Robot chickens skit is now a reality

  • @brodriguez11000

    @brodriguez11000

    3 ай бұрын

    @@dorientjewoller113 I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up a lawsuit much like click-wrap agreements.

  • @JimmYJammA2099
    @JimmYJammA20993 ай бұрын

    You win Roku, I promise never to buy a Roku TV again

  • @Apheleion

    @Apheleion

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup just bought a new TV and now selling the Roku TV at half price

  • @somethingsomething404

    @somethingsomething404

    3 ай бұрын

    reset, HDMI only, use a chrome cast. It has no power when the tv is off, as it should be.

  • @remixedcat

    @remixedcat

    3 ай бұрын

    they used to be one of the good guys and now :( I has a sad

  • @remixedcat

    @remixedcat

    3 ай бұрын

    @@cjay2 I use mine as a monitor for my living room pc.. and use it for gaming and KZread

  • @Fun-di5vm

    @Fun-di5vm

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@cjay2 why are you on KZread go touch grass

  • @tomo9126
    @tomo91263 ай бұрын

    A Roku TV never made sense to me. A dumb TV with a $40 Roku stick makes sense.

  • @l0gic23

    @l0gic23

    3 ай бұрын

    Not anymore

  • @elijahkeeper636

    @elijahkeeper636

    3 ай бұрын

    I have a stick and a dumb tv and it showed up on my tv screen

  • @thirteenheros2858

    @thirteenheros2858

    3 ай бұрын

    @@elijahkeeper636 Yup same here, streaming with the Roku stick as I type. Had not heard of this fiasco till now, so glad I never opted for their TV.

  • @DudeSoWin
    @DudeSoWin3 ай бұрын

    Any company that cuts all ties the moment there is a single legal disagreement should be immediately assigned a guilty verdict.

  • @Kwijibob
    @Kwijibob3 ай бұрын

    I got this popup on my Roku TV today. Turned the TV off and changed my WiFi password, now it just works as a regular TV. So long Roku, won't be buying you again.

  • @imabebebebe2496

    @imabebebebe2496

    3 ай бұрын

    is roku the brand?

  • @TheGuruStud

    @TheGuruStud

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@imabebebebe2496Roku is the OS

  • @ZachPye

    @ZachPye

    3 ай бұрын

    @@imabebebebe2496It is the OS on the TV. TCL has both roku and GoogeTV OS

  • @Colorcrayons

    @Colorcrayons

    3 ай бұрын

    I did the same thing, except I just turned my router off. The power of the OFF button/unplugging from the wall... or whatever other name for an act for a brute method of rebellion against literal oppression you choose to apply to it.

  • @wolfpackflt670

    @wolfpackflt670

    3 ай бұрын

    @@imabebebebe2496yes

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi3 ай бұрын

    Shit like this is why my OLED TV isn't allowed to see the internet.

  • @MyAramil

    @MyAramil

    3 ай бұрын

    "papa, what is the internet" "ITS NOTHING AND YOUR HEAD WILL EXPLODE IF YOU ASK ABOUT IT AGAIN!!!!"

  • @jbutler8585

    @jbutler8585

    3 ай бұрын

    It's wild that a 'sensible' solution might be going into your home router's firewall settings, and barricading the OUTBOUND traffic to prevent devices from phoning home and installing malicious updates.

  • @iamdarkyoshi

    @iamdarkyoshi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jbutler8585 And even then, it might not work

  • @1e0isfdkorblpg

    @1e0isfdkorblpg

    3 ай бұрын

    They will have built in cellular modems that automatically do updates in the future. :p

  • @iamdarkyoshi

    @iamdarkyoshi

    3 ай бұрын

    @@1e0isfdkorblpg I will steal the sim card and use it in my phone

  • @brennymcphees7557
    @brennymcphees75573 ай бұрын

    I think we learned why they did this today when Roku announced that there had been a data breach involving 15,000 users. Lawsuits could follow and Roku wanted to cover its butt.

  • @AmyKaylasVegas
    @AmyKaylasVegas3 ай бұрын

    This happened to me! They asked me to take a survey the next day. They asked me, "Has anything happened lately to make you happy about Roku" or enthusiastic or something. No question was asked if anything happened to make me unhappy....

  • @werefrogofassyria6609
    @werefrogofassyria66093 ай бұрын

    If only an agree button exists, it shouldn't count as agree when you click the agree button.

  • @XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX

    @XxZeldaxXXxLinkxX

    3 ай бұрын

    Dude use your brain cells for a second. If there was a disagree button, what do you think it would do? It would just stop you from proceeding, which you can do on your own anyways. That's such a silly take

  • @nobodyimportant2470

    @nobodyimportant2470

    3 ай бұрын

    It won't hold up in court but that won't stop them until someone takes them to court over it. They know that for most people the time and money required to sue them isn't worth it.

  • @phattjohnson

    @phattjohnson

    3 ай бұрын

    @@nobodyimportant2470 It won't even get as far as a 'sue'. People just want their faulty product repaired or replaced. In Australia it'd be as easy as saying "I was blind drunk, I don't remember agreeing to any updated contractual terms". Assuming these updated 'terms and services' would even be permissible under Australian law. We have fairly solid consumer law here thankfully, for now anyway.

  • @davidc1878

    @davidc1878

    3 ай бұрын

    Realistically the button should be labelled 'subjugation'

  • @renakunisaki

    @renakunisaki

    3 ай бұрын

    I guess if I ever see that I'll make a video of myself clearly stating "I do NOT agree but I'm clicking the button because it's required to use my goddamn TV" and send it to the manufacturer (and probably post it on youtube)

  • @neonshadow5005
    @neonshadow50053 ай бұрын

    I've read cases where Judges ruled that terms and conditions you were forced to agree to, in order to keep using a service or device cannot be legally binding because you were not given a choice, and more so, that you would be punished for refusing. We can only hope more rulings like that get handed down.

  • @Goabnb94

    @Goabnb94

    3 ай бұрын

    Also you cannot sign away your rights. They cannot enforce a clause that prevents you from suing them, only a clause that requires you to go through their mediation to solve the problem before going to court. That forced arbitration otherwise could say "your problem? Eff off, eat shit, ain't doing anything about it" and your recourse would end there.

  • @lasskinn474

    @lasskinn474

    3 ай бұрын

    most countries forcing like this wouldn't work for a consumer item. some countries have even their own sort of official arbitration, a state agency, that gives the recommendation if the company should compensate the customer, as an option before going to court.

  • @stompgrounds

    @stompgrounds

    3 ай бұрын

    Same here. These companies like to use this as a tactic to scare consumers into not suing. It’s effing ridiculous.

  • @nulllogos5846
    @nulllogos58463 ай бұрын

    Keep up with the educating of America. We need it.

  • @mooganoid
    @mooganoid3 ай бұрын

    Anyone who says that your words are offensive, is choosing to ignore the truth. Louis, I completely get your point: too many are ignoring the truth, so it's time to say it exactly how it is. Top man.

  • @Elemenace
    @Elemenace3 ай бұрын

    You know why there are no 4k 60fps TVs that do not have internet connectivity... it's because the companies that make the TVs team up with advertisers and other apps can shove themselves on you at all times and try to trick you out of your money💯💯💯

  • @sopcannon

    @sopcannon

    3 ай бұрын

    by a 4k monitor with out all the other bs and do not connect to the internet.

  • @esdigital5259

    @esdigital5259

    3 ай бұрын

    I thought this was widely known information

  • @johndoe-dj3iy

    @johndoe-dj3iy

    3 ай бұрын

    i just never connected my 4k tv to the net as there was no need

  • @mgancarzjr

    @mgancarzjr

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@dindunuphenwongjust wait until they can brick stolen electronics

  • @cheeseburgermonkey7104

    @cheeseburgermonkey7104

    3 ай бұрын

    _IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!!!!_

  • @peoplephobic
    @peoplephobic3 ай бұрын

    I have two Roku tv's and I could not even use hdmi without agreeing to this bullshit. There will not be a third Roku in my home.

  • @WarAuthority

    @WarAuthority

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean.. You connected it to the internet Don't (use a media system.. like a computer for freedom/choice)

  • @peoplephobic

    @peoplephobic

    3 ай бұрын

    @@WarAuthority I've never owned a device that was rendered useless and unusable by a change in the terms years after the purchase. "You connected it to the Internet" is not a valid argument. A company reaching into my home and disabling not only a feature but the entire device if I don't agree to new terms is totally foreign and unexpected to me.

  • @peoplephobic

    @peoplephobic

    3 ай бұрын

    Another question that should probably be asked is why did they do this? Was there a massive data breach of customer information or payment data that makes them think that a class action on the way? Disabling a TV that's already bought and paid for and possibly professionally mounted to a wall could cause a class action itself. Denying users access to typically non-smart tv functions like tv tuners and inputs might even be considered tortious interference between the hardware manufacturer (TCL and HIsense in my case) and the user. They must have known that this would piss people off. What prompted them to do this?

  • @cycleboy8028

    @cycleboy8028

    3 ай бұрын

    @@peoplephobic "What prompted them to do this?" Uhh... money? Well... they aren't doing it "just for money"... they're doing "for a SHITLOAD of money!" (Spaceballs ref.) Either gaining data to sell, or patching a hole in terms that have been used before to sue them for some other malfeasance. So changing it so they get/save money.

  • @ivok9846

    @ivok9846

    3 ай бұрын

    2 questions a) what does internet service (roku) has to do with tcl(tv mfr)? is roku shareholder (or even owner) of tcl? b) is there an option in tv settings to turn auto updates off? buy older "smart tv". or, prior to buying check is you can defeat auto-updates. sony recently announced yt app for my smart tv won't work for much longer. didn't cry much because yt on smart tv has ads. and i dislike ads. rossmann is exaggerating (snowden's) privacy concerns (let them listen, they can't listen to millions at once anyway), but auto-updates should be defeatable.

  • @Barot8
    @Barot83 ай бұрын

    I got this on my Roku and was very displeased. A built in forced arbitration didn't state it at the time of purchase. Anyone who purchased a Roku before this could join a class action lawsuit against Roku. In essence Roku sells defective devices unless you agree to the new TOS. My brother didn't have internet connection for his tv and had a tv that didn't function properly due to the need of internet connectivity. It wasn't (at that time) stated on the outside of box. It should work fine without internet connectivity. Thank you Louis.

  • @BenjaminMaller
    @BenjaminMaller3 ай бұрын

    It's making me think about what Klaus Schwab said " you will owe nothing and be happy" first thing I thought was yeah I'm not going to be happy

  • @UNgineering
    @UNgineering3 ай бұрын

    "This language is offensive" THAT'S THE GODDAM POINT!

  • @LRM12o8

    @LRM12o8

    3 ай бұрын

    "This language is offensive" Well, so is what they're doing. Are they getting it now?! 🙄

  • @remixedcat

    @remixedcat

    3 ай бұрын

    offensive to brands... that's all they care about

  • @CAKS90983

    @CAKS90983

    3 ай бұрын

    I dislike these modern day thin skinned people it's about getting the point across yet some of these dummies focus on the word instead of the actions of companies

  • @sammor2

    @sammor2

    3 ай бұрын

    More than likely, that shepal/person follows those that like to be lead. He is totally correct if the shepal doesn't like it go elsewhere.

  • @mactep1
    @mactep13 ай бұрын

    This is what you get when you put wifi where it doesn't belong. Aint ever gonna give my "smart" TV a chance to be smarter than me.

  • @humbughumbughumbug

    @humbughumbughumbug

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup I bought the cheapest "dumb" 43in TV at Best Buy and put a Roku Lite on it separately. Best decision I made. I saw this "arbitration" notification on it and the useless "explanation" that takes a long while to read. But they can't do anything to my TV, they can't delete stuff from my USB drives or my network... Etc

  • @MrSpirit99

    @MrSpirit99

    3 ай бұрын

    @@humbughumbughumbug Cheap Smart TV, just not connected to the Internet, just a better monitor for the pc that drives everything is the way to go for me. The best thing about that? The Company loses money on it, because cheap TVs are cross financed by advertising

  • @stephenoliveau

    @stephenoliveau

    3 ай бұрын

    It already is smarter than you... especially if you think the problem is that it can connect to a network. The problem is the law, not a few pieces of circuitry. You're part of the problem if you just implicitly blame the user for wanting progress.

  • @MrSpirit99

    @MrSpirit99

    3 ай бұрын

    @@stephenoliveauI'm thus glad I'm in the EU most of the shit they pull over there is illegal here.

  • @rynobehnke8289

    @rynobehnke8289

    3 ай бұрын

    The real problem isn't even that it got WiFi its that companies can legally do any of this scumming shit in general. Especially Arbitration seems like a law that should never have been allowed to exist.

  • @dragoneye1589
    @dragoneye15893 ай бұрын

    ...and now there is an announcement of a breach of >15k Roku accounts.

  • @steveogle3679
    @steveogle36793 ай бұрын

    I will live without. The only way to end it is to not participate.

  • @idontwantn
    @idontwantn3 ай бұрын

    I just love the phrase 'Rapist Mentality' absolute pure truth and the only good comparison for these companies that I've ever heard.

  • @anthonymoloney3671

    @anthonymoloney3671

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, these companies VIOLATE our trust, our rights, and they forcefully take that which is not theirs. Sounds pretty much bang on the money to me.

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun3 ай бұрын

    It's called Criminal Fraud, Blackmail and Racketeering. People ought to go to prison for this. You could als make a case for Felony Destruction of Property.

  • @LRM12o8

    @LRM12o8

    3 ай бұрын

    But it's all done over the internet, this the lawmakers and the FTC don't see what's going on... 😪

  • @reallue

    @reallue

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, They really ought to. You're absolutely correct. Especially since State V United was the court case that decided that corporations are people. Thus, they are entitled to the same rights as people/citizens. (That case also decided that money = speech & therefore imposing legal limitations on -bribery- donations violates the 1st amd for these -corporations- people/citizens. Thus, legalizing bribery). Unfortunately, a corporation can't go to jail. So, they were given the same rights as citizens, but w/o being subjected to the punishments for breaking the law. That's why, what you're saying ought to happen, won't ever happen.

  • @bikkiikun

    @bikkiikun

    3 ай бұрын

    @@reallue : When done over the Internet it becomes Wire Fraud.

  • @Roxor128

    @Roxor128

    3 ай бұрын

    @@reallue The corporation can't go to jail, but its employees and shareholders can. Let's make it so that if a corporation is found guilty of a crime that requires jail time, all its constituent humans serve the time, employees and shareholders alike, with recursive application for shares held by other corporations. The first time this gets implemented, you'd probably end up jailing most of the people in the financial sector.

  • @Eliphaser

    @Eliphaser

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Roxor128 the problem is that this is collective punishment; most employees are only there to earn enough money to survive, and don't have much, if any say in what goes on the company, and they might not have a single clue as to what other parts of said company are doing in the first place also I'm pretty sure that collective punishment is considered a crime against humanity, on top of not really being the most effective measure, and it unjustly punishing plenty of people (which, if in the US and put in prison, might end up having to do slave labour despite not even having done anything wrong other than be employed by morally bankrupt people, which basically covers everyone working for any corporation)

  • @nyaboron9239
    @nyaboron92393 ай бұрын

    Mutual support for my neighbor to better our lives and society as a whole rather than pointlessly bicker and jab at each other? Gay.

  • @rossmanngroup

    @rossmanngroup

    3 ай бұрын

    Actually

  • @Night_Hawk_475

    @Night_Hawk_475

    3 ай бұрын

    @SacchanxXwoosh

  • @CmdrTigerKing

    @CmdrTigerKing

    3 ай бұрын

    GAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  • @CmdrTigerKing

    @CmdrTigerKing

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rossmanngroup actually what

  • @themaskedfucker

    @themaskedfucker

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CmdrTigerKing Actually

  • @yomi001
    @yomi0013 ай бұрын

    You are 100% right Louis! Thank you for making these videos.

  • @OWEN-CASH
    @OWEN-CASH3 ай бұрын

    These are the kinds of things that happen when corporations are allowed to continuously merge until there is hardly any competition left.

  • @danielboals9602

    @danielboals9602

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you. I do not understand why this is not obvious to everyone.

  • @WoodsmanTA

    @WoodsmanTA

    3 ай бұрын

    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. There are a whole bunch of problems that come from the government deciding who to break up and when.

  • @DS-ld8ns

    @DS-ld8ns

    3 ай бұрын

    Free market is good. the thing is these corporations pay for their market. through lobbying. campaign donations and the sort. Then they control and monopolize. Free market with regulations towards the government and standards for the market can benefit. Want to make it even more free. Remove government issued patents. This spawns more competition and people vy for making the best product will be the one selling.@mystic_scythe

  • @cdvideodump

    @cdvideodump

    3 ай бұрын

    BNL from WALL-E but in real life

  • @santosdr2

    @santosdr2

    3 ай бұрын

    Corporations don't play in the free market they play in the controlled market and pay through campaign contributions, lobbying, and law writing. To prevent competition or create barriers of entry. Another thing is patents these are government issued, which create problems since they can hide away innovation, create stagnation or false innovations that do nothing but change one style of thing. This kind of interference actually hinders progress and competition. IF patents were limited and or nonexistent we could just be buying superior made products from the company that makes them the best instead of inferior products that a company owns the patent too.

  • @hotaru25189
    @hotaru251893 ай бұрын

    I see this going to court via class action lawsuit. "agree to not sue us or you cant use ur tv anymore" is blackmail plain and simple.

  • @mattb9664

    @mattb9664

    3 ай бұрын

    If it does, I want the full $107 back on the their device I bought 5 years ago.

  • @justinfowler2857

    @justinfowler2857

    3 ай бұрын

    Our "Supreme" court already ruled that mandatory binding arbitration is a ok because, "You agreed to it when you activated said product.

  • @JustinObi54

    @JustinObi54

    3 ай бұрын

    ​That's bullshit, the reading ​@@justinfowler2857

  • @tomsmith8515

    @tomsmith8515

    3 ай бұрын

    Slavory was legal at one stage Marriage to 11 year old girl was legal at one stage Heck didn’t blackadder narry an 8 yr old in the series. The law and the feeling of the law (interpretation) need to change as the tide changes otherwise we have anarky Check out star track strange new world Una goes on trial for being a genetically altered being (designer baby) something that no member if starfleet is allowed to be Interesting rabbit hole

  • @barnabusdoyle4930

    @barnabusdoyle4930

    3 ай бұрын

    @@justinfowler2857Actually, courts want to make sure you know about the arbitration agreement and agree to them before purchase, not after. Samsung found out that putting it into the user’s manual made them null and void, and LG is about to find out that putting it on the refrigerator box will also make them null.

  • @Br1cht
    @Br1cht3 ай бұрын

    Why don’t people just hook up a computer to the tv? My tv has never been online.

  • @duvarenstarwind3695

    @duvarenstarwind3695

    3 ай бұрын

    I do that with a Linux Mint box. With an ad blocker installed.

  • @rosemarythyme8595
    @rosemarythyme85953 ай бұрын

    That is exactly what just happened to me about a week ago ago on my Roku TV!! Needless to say I was not happy about that!!

  • @caleblagrange7164
    @caleblagrange71643 ай бұрын

    I feel so vindicated after getting goofed on for buying a dumb tv and connecting it to a raspberry pi.

  • @somethingsomething404

    @somethingsomething404

    3 ай бұрын

    I do the same, with a chrome cast. If you have Roku do the reset, HDMI only, use a chrome cast. It has no power when the tv is off, as it should be.

  • @circletech7745

    @circletech7745

    3 ай бұрын

    And my parents wonder why I use a 12 year old Sony TV and an old dell small form factor computer as my entertainment. I can block all the ads I want and nobody can pull this kind of shit on me.

  • @CobraFat2000

    @CobraFat2000

    3 ай бұрын

    Soon we'll just buy the OLED panels and source the driver boards for them separately - the only way to get an offline viewing experience device formerly known as a TV.

  • @G-ra-ha-m

    @G-ra-ha-m

    3 ай бұрын

    I get DVDs in charity shops for 10p each, so I don't need internet to watch stuff 😊

  • @d.r.martin6301

    @d.r.martin6301

    3 ай бұрын

    I have an old dumb Panasonic LCD that I treasure, so my screen is not in danger. But it irritates me that the Streambar I paid a hundred bucks for could be bricked. Class action suit?

  • @johnsmith8981
    @johnsmith89813 ай бұрын

    We need consumer protection laws and we need them years ago. Most other countries are improving their consumer protection and ours seems to be decaying.

  • @stigmaoftherose

    @stigmaoftherose

    3 ай бұрын

    When was the last time you saw someone vote for someone who was born after MSdos came out. You can't expect someone as brain dead as a geriatric possible understand how they are being robbed by technology.

  • @badluckprophet9103

    @badluckprophet9103

    3 ай бұрын

    That's what happens when you have a government run by money. Who are they going to protect, the randoms whining that they can't do x/y/z or the big corporations giving them millions to get/stay elected? I'm sure they convince themselves all the time that a small evil to stay elected to do big good is worth it. Or that Intellectual Property rights are the most infringed upon rights in our modern world. Honestly I don't think we can count on the government to do anything for us. The EU consumer protection laws have done more for us lately than our own laws. What's needed is a drive from consumers to demand quality non-spying software and hardware and a company that can provide that and not get bought or overtaken from within (I.E. probably has to find some way to fund itself without resorting to becoming publicly traded.)

  • @cheeseburgermonkey7104

    @cheeseburgermonkey7104

    3 ай бұрын

    Except these now-horrible yet undeservedly-rich tech companies would spend all the money they can fighting for Congress NOT to pass consumer protection laws that try to come into existence

  • @kasimirfreeman

    @kasimirfreeman

    3 ай бұрын

    We need to abolish "IP" and Patents, which is the source of this monstrous power. Without Patent Law the private solutions to these problems will overwhelm the corporate ability to respond. "Consumer Protection Laws" are as great of an idea as a ban on alcohol - the big players will find a way to abuse, while the small startups will get crushed.

  • @falrus

    @falrus

    3 ай бұрын

    Would it change anything? Germany has very strict consumer protection laws. Huawei officially sells their devices in Germany. Huawei will continue to spy on the users even when they are forced to say "We are not spying on you. Pinky promise!"

  • @dimitristamatakis2431
    @dimitristamatakis24313 ай бұрын

    You have settled down into a highly respectable opinion maker. For a little while you had me worried when you initially moved from NY, but I have to say you are on point each and every time. Thank you for your experienced knowledge. Good luck with all your endeavours. Looking forward to hearing about them.

  • @zentec010
    @zentec0103 ай бұрын

    When I saw this, it got me mad when a company forces you to agree with terms and conditions after the fact you should legally be able to get your money back for the product at full retail price. I don't care if the product is a decade year old. Waiting until something is past its return window or will not even start stopping you from potentially locking you out of your data and files you need should be criminal. This is legal intimidation tactics and corporations get away with this for decades it needs to stop.

  • @ZlatkoTheGod
    @ZlatkoTheGod3 ай бұрын

    Avatar Roku would've never stood for this. Can't believe we're letting his good name be dragged through the mud like that.

  • @shovel_salesman

    @shovel_salesman

    3 ай бұрын

    TRUE

  • @Rebel_Reign1

    @Rebel_Reign1

    3 ай бұрын

    it has taken me THIS LONG TO CONNECT THE TWO ugh

  • @jk-474

    @jk-474

    3 ай бұрын

    IF ONLY 🤣🤣🤣

  • @guskinmaypho174
    @guskinmaypho1743 ай бұрын

    the thing I learned is "do not use internet in any device where that is not the main purpose of the device"

  • @scrittle

    @scrittle

    3 ай бұрын

    An IT course taught me the biggest lure to adding internet capabilities was off-site convenience, like answering a doorbell when you're away or brewing coffee before you get home. But it's unneeded. Put a sign on your door for deliveries and buy a coffee machine with timer settings. This is what drives me up the wall about cars, they're designed to be fuel efficient and reliable, so why the hell do they have touchscreens??!! Touchscreens cause accidents, AND THEY FORCE UPDATES AND SHARE ADVERTISER DATA!

  • @CptBlackEye

    @CptBlackEye

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't get out much. A couple years ago, my daughter took me shopping and I was surprised to see a Crockpot with wi-fi. I warned her then (haven't stopped) about the dangers of connecting things to the internet.

  • @kaddiddlehopper

    @kaddiddlehopper

    3 ай бұрын

    @@scrittle Touchscreens are cheaper to manufacture than knobs and buttons.

  • @ambiarock590

    @ambiarock590

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kaddiddlehopper Knobs in a car are much safer as you can operate them without taking your eyes off the road. I don't care if it's cheaper to make, it's safer.

  • @kaddiddlehopper

    @kaddiddlehopper

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ambiarock590 Everyone agrees they're easier to use and safer. No customer cares if they cost a few dollars more. I was just pointing out the rational behind their use. A manufacturer's priorities and a customer's priorities are not the same thing.

  • @dustanglx50
    @dustanglx503 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I couldn't even use my PS5 on my TV until I clicked "Agree" I contacted customer service and I backed them into a corner I stated that I was clicking "Agree" but I do not agree. The only reason I was clicking "agree" was to unbrick my TV. I asked them if they understood. They said yes. I saves that conversation.

  • @brokko_le3

    @brokko_le3

    3 ай бұрын

    What did they want you to agree on? Connecting an appliance to your TV and use it for it's intended purpose?

  • @joshuas390

    @joshuas390

    3 ай бұрын

    "I'm going to sign this contract agreeing to the loan amount and the extremely high interest... but just so you know I dont agree with it." Congratulations you clicked agree with the terms and conditions and recorded yourself doing it. 😂

  • @Man0War_Loki

    @Man0War_Loki

    3 ай бұрын

    You didn't do what you think you did

  • @jellyrcw12
    @jellyrcw123 ай бұрын

    I love your channel, you keep it real!

  • @OWEN-CASH
    @OWEN-CASH3 ай бұрын

    "You will own nothing and be happy."

  • @metoonunyabidness1391

    @metoonunyabidness1391

    3 ай бұрын

    One step at a time

  • @Kalvinjj

    @Kalvinjj

    3 ай бұрын

    If I wasn't paying then I would, that's the part the companies magically forget. Physical media or piracy for me and screw 'em subscriptions and smart toilet seats.

  • @phattjohnson

    @phattjohnson

    3 ай бұрын

    "The things you own.. Own YOU"

  • @johnsparozich6839

    @johnsparozich6839

    3 ай бұрын

    Only if stupid people keep allowing these companies to do this.

  • @jamesphillips2285

    @jamesphillips2285

    3 ай бұрын

    The WEF was simply describing trends they were already seeing in the market.

  • @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
    @walterkronkitesleftshoe66843 ай бұрын

    This is from George Orwell's "1984", written in 1948..... 76 YEARS AGO !!! "Inside the flat a fruity voice was reading out a list of figures which had something to do with the production of pig-iron. The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely..... The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork. It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live - did live, from habit that became instinct - in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized. Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen. It was safer, though, as he well knew, even a back can be revealing."

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    3 ай бұрын

    The difference now is we are voluntarily installing Big Brother. Winston knew the evil in the room, but we welcome it in. Orwell assumed we were much stronger than we really are.

  • @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684

    @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684

    3 ай бұрын

    @@spudpud-T67 "Orwell assumed we were much stronger than we really are". Absolutely, the ready public acceptance of the "winter sniffles" fuelled attack on civil liberties a few years back illustrates your point perfectly... the level of public ignorance is depressing, I wish there were more Louis' out there pushing the message.

  • @Virtualblueart

    @Virtualblueart

    3 ай бұрын

    @@spudpud-T67Same wit the ever evolving Ai trend. Writers and movie makers inform us we should be careful and at least take it slow when implementing ever more advanced AI lest we suddenly find we cant control anything any more.

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Virtualblueart Consider evolution and atheism. Survival of the fittest, the best. Maybe the machine and AI is destined to superseed man. If man has no soul then is he any better than AI? Stardust is stardust in any form of matter.

  • @spudpud-T67

    @spudpud-T67

    3 ай бұрын

    @@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 We take or meds and 'smile and wave'.

  • @HANGING_SILVER
    @HANGING_SILVER3 ай бұрын

    This is exactly why i dont connect anything besides my phone, pc or console to the internet, i have zero trust for greedy corporations

  • @JacobP81
    @JacobP813 ай бұрын

    Thank you for speaking out about this crap companies are doing.

  • @Superchad245
    @Superchad2453 ай бұрын

    2 ways to stop them 1. Sue them in small claims court for disabling your device without your permission unless you sign away your rights 2. Sue them after agreeing, but argue because you couldn't use the device you paid for until you agreed that the terms are unenforceable

  • @hanro50

    @hanro50

    3 ай бұрын

    Or just get a 1000 people to take them to arbitration individually

  • @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT

    @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT

    3 ай бұрын

    problem, lawsuits cost like 9999999999999999999$ to be able to control the rich over the poor (rich decide poor are nothing)

  • @KasumiKenshirou

    @KasumiKenshirou

    3 ай бұрын

    Elon Musk can afford to do this, but the average person can't afford it. Maybe a class action lawsuit.

  • @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT

    @grandstarstudiosFORMER-YT

    3 ай бұрын

    @@KasumiKenshirou even class actions will get tossed out by the corrupt government

  • @Mordecrox

    @Mordecrox

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@grandstarstudiosFORMER-YTthey should cost nothing. They cost nothing here. Government handles that via consumer protection services. They even provide a website so you can file a complaint and warn companies must respond, and keep track. They will laugh at those arbitration clauses. "We are in Brazil, arbitrate these Brazil nuts". It is not great but infinitely better than US. Even weasel wording is taken care of. "Customer signed and agreed." "Customer was misled and any reasonable person would not agree to the unabridged terms. Do not dare to out-bureaucracy us."

  • @phillipreid7099
    @phillipreid70993 ай бұрын

    This is the reason I started buying old cars. I like new ones but dear lord I don’t want to stare at screens and computers just to drive. I just want a car.

  • @CompactDisc_700MB

    @CompactDisc_700MB

    3 ай бұрын

    Yeah new cars are rough, I have driven several newer cars and the only only one that lets you fully turn the screen off was a toyota car, But you need to go through several convoluted menus to do so. The Mopar and ford ones won't even let you turn the radio off there is always something playing, even it you press mute it just turns back on eventually. I love old cars so much, I can actually turn off the radio in mine. It even has a CD player, which is something that they cheap out on and exclude in new cars. makes you wonder what else they cheap out on.

  • @phillipreid7099

    @phillipreid7099

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CompactDisc_700MB I drive semis for a living and dear lord. I got my license to drive truck not a computer that has a diesel engine attached to it. If I have one wire come loose or the ecm get to hot and quits I loose all the gauges and other required equipment I need to do my job. I’ve got 4 screens pointed at me at all times and it drives me nuts.

  • @CompactDisc_700MB

    @CompactDisc_700MB

    3 ай бұрын

    @@phillipreid7099 Dang, that sounds rough. They seem to just add all these computers to vehicles with no regard to longevity, safety or repairability. I like computers, but not to control a 10,000 pound vehicle. That's kinda scary to think about.

  • @phillipreid7099

    @phillipreid7099

    3 ай бұрын

    @@CompactDisc_700MB in trucking it’s all about taking away control from the driver. They keep laxing the rules and training need to get a cdl so a lot of people coming out of the schools don’t know how to handle the traffic and situations that you find yourself in. And 10,000 is to low I’m usually between 70-80,000

  • @KasumiKenshirou

    @KasumiKenshirou

    3 ай бұрын

    And soon new cars will include a feature no consumer wants: the ability for others to shut them down remotely. It's sold by politicians as being used by law enforcement to stop criminals (the same politicians who want you to forget they wanted to "defund the police" and in many areas removed their ability to pursue criminals), but anyone with a brain can see it will be abused. And hackers WILL find a way to get to this shutoff switch. The first time a stalker hacks into his ex-girlfriends car to shut it down and murders her, these politicians that demanded this feature in the first place will pretend to be outraged. They will also attempt to gaslight everyone into thinking they were opposed to the law they, in fact, supported.

  • @bighammer624
    @bighammer6243 ай бұрын

    Subbed!! Good stuff bro!! 💪😎

  • @travaro4
    @travaro43 ай бұрын

    When my Roku started advertising Roku lightbulbs, and home automation, I knew it was going to get bad.

  • @Whimpy13

    @Whimpy13

    3 ай бұрын

    _Order Roku Lightbulbs_ [Agree][Agree Harder]

  • @tubetorpedo

    @tubetorpedo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Whimpy13 Me, an intellectual [Agree][Do not disagree]

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus3 ай бұрын

    Well Roku will never get my money after hearing this scumbag BS. Thanks for the heads up Louis! 👍👍

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    3 ай бұрын

    I hope you mean scumbaggery BS. As you are hearing it from Louis.

  • @SIPEROTH

    @SIPEROTH

    3 ай бұрын

    Can we all agree that Smart TV's where a mistake already? It makes no sense. If yo want your TV to do things you can connect done of things like PC, a console or a smart box etc. And you can upgrade that as to not be obsolete like your Smart TV "features". Consumers dig their own grave by falling for the marketing and buying "Smart" TV's. I wish there will be at least ne manufacturer offering simple TV's like the good old days.

  • @nazaxprime

    @nazaxprime

    3 ай бұрын

    Another one bites the dust.

  • @Stephanie-we5ep

    @Stephanie-we5ep

    3 ай бұрын

    I've been actively warning people away from Roku for years... they force you to use their branded merchandise if you want different add-ons (like speakers). This is just another point against Roku. Your points about our modern mindset in terms of equipment are well taken.

  • @gmontie2010
    @gmontie20103 ай бұрын

    Again You are right! Love your videos! Thank You Louis.

  • @DumbSkippy
    @DumbSkippy3 ай бұрын

    I FKN love your videos, #Louis. Much respect from Perth, Western Australia.

  • @Mike-im2xd
    @Mike-im2xd3 ай бұрын

    Doesn't the fact that the agreement is made under duress-since you can't choose any option other than to agree if you wish to use your TV-render the entire agreement null and void?

  • @PrideSage99

    @PrideSage99

    3 ай бұрын

    With a good, decent judge, yes. Now that the Internet is being viewed as a common utility, it should be even worse for these companies (if anyone does something about it)

  • @marysbigpimp

    @marysbigpimp

    3 ай бұрын

    This falls under contract law. No one forces us to purchase the tv and we have the option to return it.

  • @renakunisaki

    @renakunisaki

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm sure they could bribe a judge enough to decide that "not being able to use the TV" doesn't count as duress.

  • @AcidSugar1414

    @AcidSugar1414

    3 ай бұрын

    Depends on how much the judge views “turning off the tv” as an alternative. I mean if Sony can remove games from your library, what’s the difference here?

  • @rpospeedwagon

    @rpospeedwagon

    3 ай бұрын

    No. Nobody is under duress here. Nobody is forcing you to buy or turn on the TV. Your family is not being held hostage. TOS are generally upheld unless "unconscionable" (e.g., I promise to give LG 30% of my income for 10 years).

  • @Bandalorian
    @Bandalorian3 ай бұрын

    Louis strapped into his recliner to stop him from jumping at the camera

  • @jacobmar2797
    @jacobmar27973 ай бұрын

    Thank you for saying what needs to be said. ❤

  • @cheerfuldragon5642
    @cheerfuldragon56423 ай бұрын

    Well said. I look forward to your recommendations.

  • @BSzili
    @BSzili3 ай бұрын

    This is why I go out of my way to buy "dumb" devices that don't connect to the internet, but it's getting increasingly difficult unless you are fine with lower end devices.

  • @youtubasoarus

    @youtubasoarus

    3 ай бұрын

    Right! And it's good enough anyway. WTF do I need 8k for? To see the pores on someones ass cheeks? Retarded nonsense.

  • @ambiarock590

    @ambiarock590

    3 ай бұрын

    This is why I've been using iPods for music paired with an FM transmitter for my car than streaming. I control the music, I can put what I want on it, no one can take that music away from me for any reason, and the iPod cannot spy on me

  • @uzlonewolf

    @uzlonewolf

    3 ай бұрын

    Or just don't connect them to the internet.

  • @JackFoxtrotEDM

    @JackFoxtrotEDM

    3 ай бұрын

    @@uzlonewolfIt's not that simple, unfortunately. Most "smart" devices practically require it to do even the most basic functions which is stupid. No internet, no service, period. Hence, "dumb" devices instead.

  • @thegeforce6625

    @thegeforce6625

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JackFoxtrotEDMagreed, without it being connected to the internet and it being impossible to use for anything until you click agree or connect to the internet, you may as well have bought e-waste and gave the manufacturer your money on a silver platter.

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG3 ай бұрын

    Honestly, binding arbitration needs to be treated as illegal. IDGAF about why it was made, it is being abused to circumvent the entire judicial system!

  • @soliniv1411

    @soliniv1411

    3 ай бұрын

    I think it was created to take the load off the courts 😅

  • @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

    @PSUQDPICHQIEIWC

    3 ай бұрын

    @@soliniv1411 You know what would take a load off the courts? Not being a bunch of crooks.

  • @RobbinWilliams-uy5mz

    @RobbinWilliams-uy5mz

    3 ай бұрын

    It is literal ransomware and should be treated as such.

  • @trippylongstalkings9515
    @trippylongstalkings95153 ай бұрын

    They got the idea from the government and property. Can purchase land but can't own it.

  • @Carole610
    @Carole6103 ай бұрын

    Omg I’m so happy you made this

  • @kaiserc2471
    @kaiserc24713 ай бұрын

    Bought a Sony smart tv recently. It's apparently too far away from the router to use the features, but not far enough away to not load ads. 🙄

  • @KasumiKenshirou

    @KasumiKenshirou

    3 ай бұрын

    The ads might be built-in to the TV. Or they're full of 🐂💩.

  • @TheGuruStud

    @TheGuruStud

    3 ай бұрын

    Lmfao. You're getting fisted.

  • @jemtaovt1122

    @jemtaovt1122

    3 ай бұрын

    They downloaded the ads to your TV and will force you to watch them even without Internet. I had a friend with a TV and no Internet (at all) but it still forced them to watch the ads by completely blocking all button functions until the ads were over.

  • @chefmike8888
    @chefmike88883 ай бұрын

    The biggest problem is something I noticed while speaking with my parents. Like Louis, I’m a technology and gear freak. I was explaining to them how difficult it was re-activating my cable TV service after being out of the country for a few months. Took me 3 days on the phone then finally a trip to the store and someone was able to fix it by selecting the ‘on ‘ option somewhere. Yet my tenant was able to turn it on 3 times using my account and card after I was told it can’t be done without me…. The parents said, why do you let this get you so worked up? Why ? Because it’s un except able. And because of people just saying, well that’s how it is and not making a scene in the cable store is why they continue to think they can get away with it. Well no more, no more ‘purchasing’ a $1300 phone that allows me to listen to the music I paid for and uploaded for only $10 per month No more renting photoshop for ever. No more accepting that Google and Microsoft are monopolies . I personally am either getting what I paid for one way or another. New rules and laws need to be put into place that weren’t necessary 20 years ago. Wake up and put your foot down.

  • @alphamikeomega5728

    @alphamikeomega5728

    3 ай бұрын

    The EU's DMA came into full force last Wednesday. Hopefully, we'll see some disentanglement of these monopolies.

  • @reallue

    @reallue

    3 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, this is only a symptom of a much larger problem. There's a Princeton study that proved beyond any doubt that our elected US Govt representatives DO NOT represent us. Like, at all. I could go into it but I don't feel like typing all that again. The gist of it is tht ~80% of Americans, regardless of their political affiliation all agree on & want things like legalization of Marijuana, an end to the endless wars, & Healthcare (esp medicare-4-all) so that getting sick doesn't mean going bankrupt. This is something that every other 1st world country in the world has enjoyed for decades. But, our govt will never even bring it to the floor for a vote. Why not when it is something tht is both the will & in the best interests of the American people? Bc of the corruption tht has spread so thoroughly throughout the entire federal govt. Our elections are rigged by easily tampered E-voting machines. When covered by the laughably corrupted mainstream media, they also say "there is no evidence of election rigging". Well, that's intentional too. A 12yo girl demonstrated how easily these machines are hacked at a DARPA-CON over a decade ago. W/ all the top security brass in the audience. Using nothing but a pen-sized screwdriver she was able to open an E-voting machine & gain admin access in under 1min. Once she had admin access she showed how easy it was to transfer votes already cast from one candidate to another. Leaving behind no digital footprint (aka: evidence). Now, think about how taxes are removed from your paycheck b4 u ever receive it. & how u can't spend money anywhere w/o being taxed again. Money we're forced to pay, double & yet we receive zero goods or services. & the money we do have loses value every day. The govt, under Biden has printed a trillion dollars every 100 days. The US dollar used to be worth 100 pennies. Now it's worth 3-4¢. That's why houses in 1970 cost ~$20k on avg. & now they cost an avg of $440k. Bc our dollar loses its buying power as they do this. Instead of regulating corruption like this, they embrace corruption. & the game has been being rigged against us in every aspect imaginable. It's harder for the invisible hand of the free market is weighing down the scales. We used to be able to vote w/ our dollars, to not reward this kind of toxic behavior but how does one do that when all the tech companies are engaging in it? _"The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants every 20 years or so"_ - Benjamin Franklin We're decades overdue for that. This is all the result of neglecting the needs of the tree of liberty

  • @ThinkerOnTheBus

    @ThinkerOnTheBus

    3 ай бұрын

    I completely hear what it is you are saying, and I agree with you, but you must realize that unfortunately, in the US, corporations have more rights than the citizens. Hence, that is an issue we must address prior to attaining the power necessary to put an end to these other despicable, unethical, and nefarious corporate practices. Ever hear of GIMP??? GIMP is a cross-platform image editor for GNU/Linux, macOS, Windows, and several other operating systems. It is a highly capable piece of freeware that is comparable to PhotoShop, and although it might have as many features, functionalities, and tools built into the software as PhotoShop, it is capable of meeting most users needs in regards to image editing. If you already know PhotoShop, there will be practically no learning curve at all in switching to GIMP. It's a powerful, and free, piece of software, so give it a try.

  • @dannydorito2954

    @dannydorito2954

    3 ай бұрын

    *Unacceptable

  • @coopercovelo

    @coopercovelo

    3 ай бұрын

    We have entered the era of blaming the victims. Your TV isn't working, it must be something YOU are doing wrong! Your car was stolen, you should have parked it in a better area and used a steering lock! Your account was compromised by a data breach, you should have had credit monitoring locks in place!

  • @Firebadbob
    @Firebadbob3 ай бұрын

    Always a great time watching his reflection with the video slowed down

  • @richh650
    @richh6503 ай бұрын

    1000 percent nailed it. The corporate world has gone completely Control Crazy and it has to be stopped!!!!

  • @NoName-ik2du
    @NoName-ik2du3 ай бұрын

    As an owner of a TCL Roku T.V., I'm glad I disconnected it from the internet years ago. I largely did it at the time because the stupid thing kept updating and breaking itself, but now I see I also saved myself from this nonsense. As a fun side note: When your TCL Roku T.V. is not connected to the internet, its LED (which is a large 2-inch wide piece of plastic on my particular T.V.) double-flashes at you _every two seconds_ whenever the T.V. is on as a "notification" that it's not online. This "feature" is very obviously just meant to annoy you into connecting it back to the internet so the T.V. can resume harvesting your data and feeding you ads again.

  • @TheEvilAdministrator

    @TheEvilAdministrator

    3 ай бұрын

    Tape over the LED?

  • @NoName-ik2du

    @NoName-ik2du

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TheEvilAdministrator I initially considered that, but it also indicates some other useful things, and after just a few days, I no longer even really noticed the flashing, so I left it alone.

  • @JamesTDG

    @JamesTDG

    3 ай бұрын

    My dad has the same kind of TV as you. Easy solution is this, place electric tape over the LED section, just completely obfuscate it, and then BAM, no more annoying "booho, I can't connect to the internet" blink

  • @marckyle5895

    @marckyle5895

    3 ай бұрын

    Use your kid's model car paint to paint over the panel.

  • @20EsOfficial

    @20EsOfficial

    3 ай бұрын

    rip that shitty led out

  • @hagbard72
    @hagbard723 ай бұрын

    Bought a Roku device about five years ago, first thing it did was ask for my credit card. I returned it. Never again.

  • @youtubasoarus

    @youtubasoarus

    3 ай бұрын

    LOL Good! More people need to NOPE out of this.

  • @legionofanon

    @legionofanon

    3 ай бұрын

    Give it a privacy credit card, sure they got numbers, but it can never charge it lol. That aside, good on ya for returning their garbage

  • @fauxque5057

    @fauxque5057

    3 ай бұрын

    I gave them a card that I keep locked. Same card I gave Paypal.

  • @chriscordray8572

    @chriscordray8572

    3 ай бұрын

    Wow, my roku never ask for a credit card or it would be returned immediately.

  • @esousa486
    @esousa4863 ай бұрын

    We LOVE ya Loius .... Have a great day, sir !!!

  • @tomdonahoe3539
    @tomdonahoe35393 ай бұрын

    With my sister's TV, I did a factory reset and then did NOT set up any internet connection. She only uses her TV for local over the air channels and watches streaming content on her phone. The key is to NEVER connect a TV to the Internet if you don't use it for streaming content. Also, Visio/Walmart TVs now come with a remote with *NO* keypad. The reason is they want to force you to navigate to local channels on screen so they can feed you advertising (via the Internet) on screen. The old Visio remotes, with a keypad, work with the new sets . . . . for now.

  • @Ed_Stuckey
    @Ed_Stuckey3 ай бұрын

    While listening to this 'rant' by Louis,( thank you, Louis) I had a flashback to the 1950s and a day in my childhood. My mom was talking to a friend of hers. They were discussing their fear that the government was spying on them through the television. I was too young to think much about it at the time. Then it started coming up again years later when I was older - I just laughed. I'm not laughing now.

  • @LRM12o8

    @LRM12o8

    3 ай бұрын

    Only difference to 1984 is that it's not the government we need to fear, it's private companies. Matter of fact, the government is our only hope to regulate and put an end to this madness. Lord have mercy... 🥶

  • @growingsage

    @growingsage

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@LRM12o8 Not as long as private companies can bri- i mean, lobby the politicians to allow this shit to continue

  • @duckpwnd

    @duckpwnd

    3 ай бұрын

    @@LRM12o8The government is in cahoots with the private companies. The government wants, but is (at least in the U.S.) still fairly limited on how they can legally spy on their citizens. Now, if the private company does it on their behalf, that's much easier for them to conceal and deny.

  • @corycarlson8712
    @corycarlson87123 ай бұрын

    I ordered a HP printer from amazon just so i could print off labels from my laptop... i went to go connect the cable from the printer to my laptop... and lo and behold it was all wireless.... and i needed a monthly subscription for $9.99 a month to HP print labs (or whatever it was called) just to be able to use it.. had to use their app and go through their app. had to send my file to the hp print store and then send it from my phone to the printer.. and they had a limit to how many pages i could print... like 10 pages per month for 9.99. I boxed that piece of shit back up and sent it back to amazon. Ill just use my neighbors like ive been doing rather than pay those WEF scumbags. Stuff is truly disgusting! thank you for the work you do! These companies need to go out of business

  • @fookingsog

    @fookingsog

    3 ай бұрын

    *NEVER* buy a consumer grade product that requires "Managed Print Services"!!! 😬 "Managed Print Services" only belongs in a corporate office environment!!!

  • @mxslick50

    @mxslick50

    3 ай бұрын

    Note: Edited to fix typos. Buy a Brother laser printer, either B&W only (Around $170) or color (starts at $250). Yes the up-front printer cost is higher, but you get cheaper per page costs and a printer mechanism that is 5-10 times more durable. Even the starter toner cartridge lasts longer than any inkjet, and your pages don't fade or smear if they get wet. Plus laser print speed is 2-4 times faster . A 1200+ page toner is $45, and $80 for 2400+ pages. I stopped using inkjet decades ago and don't regret it.

  • @3osufdh4rfg

    @3osufdh4rfg

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@mxslick50Exactly. There are no/very few reasons not to get a cheap laser instead of ink jet.

  • @TurinAlexander

    @TurinAlexander

    3 ай бұрын

    Your first mistake was buying HP. Just don't. Not only is their hardware crap that breaks within months, but they have the worst monetization schemes around.

  • @kimchristensen2175

    @kimchristensen2175

    3 ай бұрын

    This has nothing to do with WEF or other conspiracy fables. It's simply capitalism and big corps. WEF nonsense is just a distraction.

  • @boggola
    @boggola3 ай бұрын

    Man, I love your passion for this!

  • @redstang5150
    @redstang51503 ай бұрын

    Absolutely EPIC rant! Beautiful work, Louis.

  • @Malikav0311
    @Malikav03113 ай бұрын

    You are 100% correct on the importance of strong language to emphasize the disgusting behavior these companies are engaging with.

  • @davidrumbelow
    @davidrumbelow3 ай бұрын

    Un solicited advertising on your smart phone in South Africa is now banned, failure to comply heavy fine

  • @threeMetreJim
    @threeMetreJim3 ай бұрын

    In the UK, it's often a cheap tv and a 'fully loaded' firestick or other similar device. Glad I don't even bother with tv tbh.

  • @bullsboat1
    @bullsboat13 ай бұрын

    period,point, blank!!!! thanks for the info brother.

  • @KingJames1981
    @KingJames19813 ай бұрын

    Thank you for exposing the corrupt greed and blatant 'rape' of our "Life Liberty and pursuit of happiness". We are being attacked from every angle from these demons, body autonomy, spiritual, and now our TV's.

  • @redtiger7268
    @redtiger72683 ай бұрын

    This shit is everywhere. I have a side gig as a bartender. We receive our tips on a bankcard. We are "allowed" to opt out FOR A FEE. If you have the bankcard and use it every single purchase you make is categorized and sent to your employer. Purchase something they do not agree with or give to the wrong political ideology and now your employer knows. I have already seen people fired because of what they purchased.

  • @telegramsam

    @telegramsam

    3 ай бұрын

    Can you get cash out at an ATM with it? I think I would be going back to the old fashioned way of doing business

  • @1e0isfdkorblpg

    @1e0isfdkorblpg

    3 ай бұрын

    I believe there would be a way to take this up with them legally.

  • @youtubasoarus

    @youtubasoarus

    3 ай бұрын

    How..... how the fuck is that legal?!

  • @sovereigntyofvoyagers7380

    @sovereigntyofvoyagers7380

    3 ай бұрын

    I suppose the best way to bypass that would be to only use that card to pay for expenses or "regular" things, and offload your more 'political' purchases to your personal cards or accounts. But that doesn't excuse the whole "opting out for a fee" thing.

  • @JamesTDG

    @JamesTDG

    3 ай бұрын

    Okay, that is grounds for a lawsuit.

  • @indarican1575
    @indarican15753 ай бұрын

    Found your channel by accident and f_ckin love it.. LoudLove

  • @prematureoptimism7125
    @prematureoptimism71253 ай бұрын

    I can definitely relate. This is exactly what happened to me with the television I got my Mom.

  • @briand7890
    @briand78903 ай бұрын

    "The manufacturer can take back features at any time". I been screaming this to my fam/friends for years. It's just a matter time.

  • @darkfur18
    @darkfur183 ай бұрын

    Don't agree to forced arbitration, sue them for bricking your TV, they can't force arbitration because you never agreed to it... We just need enough people making the sacrifice to get a class action

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    3 ай бұрын

    Or everyone filing at their small claims court. If a Roku representative don't show up, they lose the case. So if 1,000 people filed, thats 1,000 places roku needs to send an employee or lose the case. The good thing of small claim courts is that lawyers are not allowed.

  • @JamesTDG

    @JamesTDG

    3 ай бұрын

    Interesting. Definitely taking notes the next time I need to agree to a document (Plus I am backing up every TOS/EULA I agree to just so I can rub it in their faces in court)@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj

  • @zerospace101
    @zerospace1013 ай бұрын

    This should be illegal. Especially after purchase. LG has this with their appliances as well. Disgusting. Should never be allowed to keep you from using a product you buy.

  • @fel7807
    @fel78073 ай бұрын

    I've been watching for a little while, and I have to say that I am so glad that your videos are out there and that you're getting the views that you are. I've been a tech enthusiast for my entire life, and have worked in the tech industry since before I got out of high school. I've watched as within the past 10-15 years, corporations have worked tirelessly to undermine the very foundation of why the internet was created and popularized in the first place. If Roku isn't destroyed for this, I anticipate we'll start to see it used as a blueprint for a lot more companies with even less scrupulous practices in mind. Even if it retracts the decision, nobody should trust them with their devices ever again; often, it's just a matter of time before they think people stopped paying attention and they can try it again.

  • @thegeforce6625

    @thegeforce6625

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed. though to add to what your saying, it’s happening to pretty much everything, corporations are more powerful than the government at this point and have their hands in so many people in government occupations pockets that they’re doing anything in their power to strip the general public of rights and freedoms.

  • @dansagen2122
    @dansagen21223 ай бұрын

    Roku TV - can't even change local input name without net connection. disgusting behavior

  • @evaone4286

    @evaone4286

    3 ай бұрын

    Wtfffff

  • @TedBackus
    @TedBackus3 ай бұрын

    a few months back my neighbor asked me if i could hook her laptop up to her living room TV, and use it as the laptops display. i said sure, since thats simple.....i was not right. it was a 'smart' TV, a samsung one, & although it had wifi, & installed apps, it was built to play nice with apple devices, and her laptop was an HP. i tried several things, i tried setting the TV as the laptops wireless display, the TV blocks it, so i got an HDMI cable & did it the old fashion way & it worked fine. my point is the TV had the functionality to allow it being used as a wireless display for a PC, it had those options, but samsung blocks or frustrates the process so thoroughly, that most users will give up & just use its built in apps with their endless commercials. now she watches movies & shows over her laptop to the TV, and i installed librewolf & ublock origin, no ad's just what she wants. she LOVES it.

  • @americanfreedomandworldpea6912

    @americanfreedomandworldpea6912

    3 ай бұрын

    This is why I prefer old school analog technology, the corporations can't really control or stop

  • @mikedavison4313

    @mikedavison4313

    3 ай бұрын

    All too hard. I just use a chromecast dongle on hdmi. Works great.

  • @ambiarock590

    @ambiarock590

    3 ай бұрын

    @@americanfreedomandworldpea6912 This is one big reason as to why I've been carrying around and using iPods as my music player and not Spotify. I've been using a 4th gen iPod classic with the clickwheel and everything and I love it.

  • @99guspuppet8

    @99guspuppet8

    3 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ thanks for helping your neighbor

  • @Iron_Sights99

    @Iron_Sights99

    3 ай бұрын

    You just mirrored pretty much EXACTLY how I operate lol My parents did this (and probably still do) and I was raised into it, and still continue the practice. HDMI from my laptop to the big screen. It worked with DVD players, it works with my computer too. Throw on a wireless mouse and keyboard and you have a pretty sweet setup. If you are well-off enough (which I am not) you can use a computer dedicated to 100% tv usage and never bother having to disconnect it. Additionally, if you are someone who does the old "yo ho ho" technique with movies/shows, you can hook up a dedicated storage drive to this system and run it using the drive. The entire setup takes up about the same space as a DVD player, the only difference being it doesn't need discs to work. Easy to surf the web, you don't have ads (if you are an adblock user), and it is super easy to set up and use. I don't think I will ever bother connecting one to do it the "conventional" way.

  • @Tipsythomas
    @Tipsythomas3 ай бұрын

    You are completely right 👍

  • @asdf52708
    @asdf527083 күн бұрын

    I want an "unsmart" TV again... why are they extinct at this point

  • @I_am_ENSanity
    @I_am_ENSanity3 ай бұрын

    Sounds like a massive lawsuit inbound.

  • @24allix
    @24allix3 ай бұрын

    Hey Louis, as a SA survivor keep using the analogy - it's a perfect match.

  • @thatguyalex2835

    @thatguyalex2835

    3 ай бұрын

    I hope that everything is okay with you bro/sis. Nothing like this has ever happened to me, though a former friend almost pulled my pants off back in the late 2000s, so I punched him. Glad my parents were supportive of me, and the friendship ended in 2009 or so. A decade later, and my mom was on FB reading some news in 2022 and found out that the guy (aged 19 in 2018) SA-ed someone three years younger than him in 2018. Creep deserves to rot in jail.

  • @c.b.3568
    @c.b.35683 ай бұрын

    Was shopping for a new TV. Decided on a Roku but as fate would have it, this came out and I changed my choice! Thank you so much for posting! Love the contained rage! Love that you gave us info to opt out of selling our data! Unbelievable. Thank you!!!

  • @craigbathurst1185
    @craigbathurst11852 ай бұрын

    Call your State Attorney General and file a complaint.

  • @estuardo2985
    @estuardo29853 ай бұрын

    We need something like a Rossman list of rapist companies and/or maybe "a this and not that" company/product list. The average joe either doesn't have the time or the bandwidth (because of all of society's demands) to do a good job of researching everything.

  • @ChristophHoward

    @ChristophHoward

    3 ай бұрын

    Compiling such a list would take weeks and as such Louis or even us on the moderation team will probably not do anytime soon.

  • @mantacid1221

    @mantacid1221

    3 ай бұрын

    Mozilla’s “privacy not included” list has some sources on this.

  • @KasumiKenshirou

    @KasumiKenshirou

    3 ай бұрын

    Probably easier (and more useful) to create a list of non-rapist-mentality companies. (ARE there any?)

  • @ambiarock590

    @ambiarock590

    3 ай бұрын

    I've been building one of my own. I have a discord channel that I add to whenever Louis makes a video about this kind of stuff.

  • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    @RicardoSantos-oz3uj

    3 ай бұрын

    It can be done by creating a wiki and allowing people to enter new data.

  • @Robeight
    @Robeight3 ай бұрын

    I heard about this earlier, and I was looking at Roku TV's for the kids, to save getting separate streaming boxes... now never going near Roku ever ever again.

  • @axenik
    @axenik3 ай бұрын

    I’ve seen this on McDonald’s app, Bungies Destiny game and now Roku tv. It’s sickening.

  • @UST817
    @UST8172 ай бұрын

    Beautiful rant!

  • @rover213
    @rover2133 ай бұрын

    I declined new terms of sirvice from LG, result after that I truned of wi-fi and no longer want a "smart" tv ever again

  • @robertsmith2956

    @robertsmith2956

    3 ай бұрын

    have you turned off wifi? or is the TV using your neighbors wifi now?

  • @Australiaisupsidedown

    @Australiaisupsidedown

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@robertsmith2956 truned of

  • @RFGSwiss

    @RFGSwiss

    3 ай бұрын

    change your wifi password to be sure.

  • @alvallac2171

    @alvallac2171

    3 ай бұрын

    *service *LG. Result? After that, I *turned off *again.

  • @Voyajer.

    @Voyajer.

    3 ай бұрын

    @@alvallac2171 Feel better?

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