This was such an awesome review! Definitely answered a lot of my questions, thanks Ian! 😄

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charles. Glad to hear that it was useful to you.

I like how carpet, dead cats and your hair are similar color. :D

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I also like the fact that Mr Design is looking at my use of colour!! (Or lack of in the case of my hair) I always say that I went grey prematurely. I was planning on turning grey at 80 though. ;)

Thanks Ian, this was a really helpful review! I appreciated the back-to-back auto tests so I could hear the mics for myself, compared to each other. I didn't know the Movo existed, but I liked the sound from it so I'll definitely check it out, thanks to you! Cheers from the USA!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, Tom. I’d say the Rode has more top end presence, Boya possibly most bass content and Movo is in between. Mounting system on Boya and Movo isn’t quite as good but they are terrific value. Just be careful of noise in quiet room recordings. Although the Boya and Movo are louder, they also give proportionately more noise as well.

Great comparison especially like the fact that you check the sound from the rear

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Daymon. I basically check the rear for two reasons. One is to see if it might be useful to speak from behind camera when vlogging and the other is for rejection characteristics. (Funnily enough, opposite reasons to each other, depending on what you want) Another thing is that sometimes, the rear ‘timbre’ or ‘tone’ can mix with the front sound when there are reflections in the room. I suspect that for instance, the Boya is picking up a fatter, boomier sound indoors because the tone on its rear is quite thick and I was in a small room for this video.

Thanks for the great comparison

great comparison ian :) , i have the rode only by chance i got it suuuuppper cheap at $10 off a mate that upgrade after a week , but all three are very respectable by the test and will always be better than inbuilt mic , well done :-)

Thanks to your comparison, I was able to decide on which one to get!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce. It’s always nice to get feedback from people who find videos useful. Still finding my feet in the making of these things so really appreciated. I’m guessing that you went with the Movo. Cheers Ian

@advaitandaarushvlog8657

6 жыл бұрын

So which one did you get

@autofficinaportafortuna

6 жыл бұрын

The Comica CVM-VM10II. Similar to the video micro and It came in a nice foamed case. Well worth the $40 IMHO.

Lovely review. Thanks !

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This was made some time ago and the funny thing was, I feel that I did the least for this one than any of my other videos! The house was upside down and it literally took me minutes to make it. Yet it did quite well with views..... Anyway, I’m glad that it was useful.

Thank you for the fantastic review, Ian! You really helped me figure out my budget to quality categories: dental floss, shoestring and dream. 😀

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

New video about to appear comparing 6 budget mics directly..... Some time today!

@Xxsimply.catgrassxX

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Ian, I saw it a bit after you posted it. It helped me so much! I chose the Boya for now and will upgrade to one of the others in a few weeks. Many thanks, Ian!

NICE Review. Thank you for various test. it is really helpful. i think movo is better than boya.

What an excellent review 👏

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Hayaak.

Thank you for this review. This is the exact review that I needed to pick from the 3. And I just bought the Movo over the Rode.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. Great to hear that it helped you make a decision. That was exactly what the video was made for. The Movo is a great little mic.

@jmsdfilms

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Ian! If need to make anther decision. I'll ask you. :)

@jon123423

4 жыл бұрын

I bought Boya MM1 over too.

thanks for the video, it helps a lot

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Great. I’m glad it was useful!

Great review, thanks for sharing. I also love how apologetic you are for the rolled up carpet, haha!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Fiona-Jayne. The carpet and the mics all kind of merge with my hair!! I wish they didn’t ...... ;)

simple & spot on

Thank you!

the nice thing about that extra gain from the Movo is that you can lower the levels more on the camera which helps with reducing the crappy hiss from the awful preamps in dslr cameras.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

That was exactly my feeling, but it also produces a bit more noise than the Rode so they kind of come out pretty even with regards to s/n ratio. In most situations though, the noise floor is underneath ambient sound so it’s not such a great issue. I quite like the Movo, but not the mount. Mind you, it has a 1/4 inch thread on the bottom so it can be attached to mini tripods very easily. The Rode has a 3/8 thread.

Nice! I use Røde video Microphone With Sony FDR-AX53. And Its a god combination. You made a Intresting video.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I still like the Rode a lot because the added top end helps cut through noise in many cases. The Videomic Go also does a great job and isolates a bit better, although it is prone to electric noise, whereas the Micro isn't.

Great job 👍it’s still useful after 2 years, isn’t it ? Thanks for helping me decide what to buy

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Funny thing about this video is that I made so little effort really, and made it really quickly! So much for production values eh? ;)

The Rode and the Movo beat the Boya hands down. I like the deeper sound of the Movo, but a lot of people use the Rode. Thanks for the great review.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. Thanks for your feedback. Yes, the Movo is kind of in between the Rode and Boya tonally. Funny thing is different environments create such different sounds though. Ona sounds better outdoors with no walls to reflect sound. I use the Rode quite a lot because it has more top end and less bass so it allows speech to cut through quite well and is good indoors. I could also live with the Movo. Funny thing is that I find a similar thing happens with the Videomic Pro+. Big and beefy indoors but more balanced outdoors. These are all budgety type mics though and all have their foibles. I think the Movo is a good compromise.

Finally a good test done. Thanks a lot.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you Stephan. It’s always nice to get positive feedback because sometimes I feel as though I’m making videos with no audience......

@stephanpieterse6960

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig do you use GoPro? If you do which adapter cable do you suggest to use with the Boya BY-MM1?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I do have a GPro Stephan. There is no choice but to use the GoPro one itself, which unfortunately is expensive. If you check my channel, I have recently been experimenting with a Primo EM172 lavalier mic which is an omni and the company made me a short, 4 inch wired version so I have it straight onto the adapter. It works really well. To test it thoroughly, I made five films in Cornwall using just that setup to see how it worked in a ‘tourist’ type of situation. Some of the locations were awful for sound, but the Primo did me proud. The Boya would work as well but it is quite bassy, I found. The Primo em172 is about the same price. You can’t really get around that daft GoPro adapter though. In the UK, it’s £50! A rip-off.

@stephanpieterse6960

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig I bought a Comica adapter. Ill see if it works

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

That’ll be interesting. I didn’t know they made one!! Presumably for Hero 5 or 6? I’ll look that 9ne up. Thanks.

Oh wow sounds are brilliant ❤

@iancraig

22 күн бұрын

What’s really nice is that they are nice and cheap too!

I love your comparison test, but I do wish you had expanded it to also testing at 3 feet and 6 feet away. Maybe there might be something with a bit more difference in the sound.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Bob Diaz The comparative sound between the three of them remains the same. The Rode is thinner, the Boya sounds the ‘fattest’ and the Movo in between the two. Distance doesn’t seem to change this. Best with all mics to be as close as possible though if you want crisp, clean audio. At further distance, the gain needs to be a little higher for the Rode than the other two, but when you add the extra self noise of the Movo or Boya, then noise levels are pretty much the same between all three and to be honest, in most situations, noise won’t be heard above ambient sounds. I personally wouldn’t use any of them for ‘interview’ type stuff in very quiet surroundings, although I know that some use the Rode for this. This was never meant as an ‘in depth’ review but just a quick comparison.

Just ordered the movo based on the better base. Hope i won't regret the lower damping of the coldshoe mount. Thanks for the input.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

I quite like the Movo myself, Matthijs. It has a bit more bass than the Rode and is less inclined to be edgy and isn’t fat sounding like the Boya. It’s a great buy.

@Theoinkoinkoinkoink

4 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Hi Ian, i hope i can now film my kids without the autofocus sounds in the background. I use an canon M5 were the STM lenses are really noisy. The USM lenses are quiet in the AF but zooming makes squeeking noises.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Any mic might pick that up! The only way to get rid of it might be to get the mic off the camera. Maybe a bracket might do it, depending on how loud it is. I get noises from a gimbal which means I have to use a separate recorder if I want clean audio.

useful review.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Good to hear.

just now found your review of this! Awesome. I would love to see a review of the either of these - the Movo/Boya VS the sE Promic Laser given your thoughts on your other video. Any chance you could try these direct into a laptop? Would be great to hear what you mean about noise being a potential issue when plugged directly in mic/headphone jack of a laptop..

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

I gave the Boya away Hiranga. Didn’t like it. I’m guessing that a laptop will connect directly to a mic and convert the analogue signal to digital with nothing in the way? No converter? Personally, I think I’d buy a cheap recorder like a Zoom h1n which has its own mic and gives fantastic results. I’ve never seen a mic going directly into a computer other than via usb.

@hiranga

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig darn. that's okay. thanks for your swift reply! Much appreciated

Do you think one of these would be a good option to start a podcast? Thanks for the great review!

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Martina. It really depends what you are doing in the podcast. These mics are great for portable usage where you’re out and about..... especially the Movo. The reason I say this is that noise issues are much less of a problem when oitside ao you really don’t have to worry about it. If you’re podcasting indoors and speaking like a ‘radio’ type of thing, I would get something better perhaps. Or a lavalier mic is a good choice for both. You can get the capsule really close in both situations so speech would be clear. I only use these kinds of mics outside on the move for convenience.

Hi! I was wondering if u can make a quick review between movo and comica cvm vm10ii. I havent seen one in youtube still. :)

@RenzoForero

5 жыл бұрын

a review just came out this month comparing both of those + the rode. The comica is the clear winner in regards to sound, as well as additional accessories :)

Hello! I enjoyed your video. I use a Sony ZV1. I’m unsure of whether to purchase the Rode or the Movo for outdoor windy situations when vlogging. Which would you recommend ?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Stoney. I prefer the Movo myself. You might want to know that the Movo has been updated to a Movo Pro. I have a video comparing the original with the new one coming out in a couple of days. Cheers. Ian

@stoneydrey3418

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig amazing! Thank you for your input Ian. I’ll definitely watch that video too to explore my options🙏

amazing comprehensive one tho

Very helpful!

Excellent channel. A new version of the Movo VXr-10 PRO has just come out. Now with PRO at the end. Have you tried it ?? Do you know how good the new Movo Vxr10 PRO is ??? It's only available on the Movo website, I'd like to know your point of view. You are an expert.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

I will check it out

Nice review! Did you notice any gain difference between these mics?

@iancraig

11 ай бұрын

Long time ago now, but I didn’t notice anything.

Hello! An awesome review! You are a great host! ✨ My nice headphones are broke, so I can't really hear the difference myself... Could you please tell me, which one is better: Rode or Movo? Or what the difference between them?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! I think that it’s just two flavours. The Movo has more bass than the Rode which has more top end ....

@KumiKumika

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig So, as a girl I should get Rode i guess? And what about sound quality? Does Rode performs better? Or they are the same?

@KumiKumika

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Ah, nevermind, in my country I could only find movo on ebay twice and fourth time pricier than Rode....

You basically said the noise floor doesn't change much between the 3 mics, but doesn't the higher gain of the MOVO allow you to reduce the Mic Input gain of your camera, thereby reducing noise overall (due to camera pre-amps being rather noisy)?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, that would be right I think. I did find on a Zoom that when normalised, there wasn’t a great deal between the Rode and Movo, but the Movo had ‘slightly’ more noise. So if you have a noisy camera preamp, it might well make sense to use the Movo. In practice, the noise floor is low enough to not be too worried by either in normal circumstances. Surrounding ambient sounds would easily take it out on both. I wouldn’t be using either the Rode or Movo at home as a studio type mic, but on a noisy camera, theoretically, perhaps the Movo might be better. TBH, it’s a hair’s breadth really though. I still prefer the relatively sharper sound of the Rode myself though I think. It let’s speech cut through well. If I use it at home or on holiday in a quiet place, I use a portable preamp so the camera is right down anyway. The Movo is perfectly good though and just ‘different’ to the Rode in sound, so probably a better ‘value for money’ mic. I’m still puzzled why the Boya sounds different since it’s possibly the same mic. I can only think quality control is also an element here.

@JDW-

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the detailed feedback, Ian! Much appreciated. Right now I use either my GH5's built-in Mics (which is a problem outdoors because there's no way for me to use a deadcat on them) or my Sony PCM-D100 which is truly outstanding and has superb, low-noise preamps. My D100 has a deadcat and can be mounted in a hotshoe, but it's rather bulky and the stereo mic pair is so sensitive that placing it atop the camera would result in thumping sounds and record turns of dials or even record my lens as I zoom it. For that reason I've been pondering a more compact yet useful Mic for outdoors. I've even pondered the much more expensive Sennheiser MKE 440. And while it is more lightweight than my D100, with deadcat it isn't more compact, so I've been considering either the Rode or Movo. Anyway, thanks again for sharing detailed thoughts. I thought the MOVO sounded better, but you might be right about the sharper sound of the Rode being better outdoors.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

If you’re getting physical camera noises from the lens etc. the Movo mount is more susceptible to that than the Rode. I did find (a new) Rode mount works. The old one had stretched open a bit too much for the Movo but then the cost of the Rode and Movo become the same. Portable, I often use a Rode Videomic. It needs a battery and is quite big but the sound and self noise is way superior to both of these.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Did a little more comparing with the Rode this morning since that seems to be the most brought up comment. I’d say in use, there’s little difference in perceived self noise going into the Zoom H1 since as you said, the lowering of the gain helps the Movo. On the Zoom, it was quite significant. I lowered the gain by 10 clicks compared to the Rode in order to get the volumes similar. I put the same kind of Rode mount onto the Movo and found that it is slightly less stable due to the front weight of the Movo being greater. The Rode is thinner at the front so there is less for the mount to contend with, whereas the Movo stays the same thickness and therefore the weight distribution is quite different. I do like the Movo though because it does indeed give a fuller sound and isn’t as thin as the Rode. I think it may be a better match with my Rode Videomic if I switch between them on the same recording. The Videomic gives a more bassy sound than the Videomicro so the Movo seems to be closer to the Videomic. With something as good as a GH5 and the Sony recorder, I think I’d get something better than both mics tbh. I got the Videomic because it does have lower self noise and isn’t at the daft prices of the Videomicpro. You can get some quite good deals around because it’s less glamorous and probably less popular. Low self noise and supercardioid and I find it to sound really good on video. It’s the price of two movos or just a bit more than a Movo with a Rode shockmount. A lot bigger though but you have such great gear that it would be a shame to plant a cheap audio sound on top. The Videomic also doubles up well as a boom mic, plus the shockmount is really good for camera work. I put a deadcat on mine so it looks like a bit of a beast, but out filming, I have found others to be way more respectful and actually get out of the way when it points towards them or if they walk in shot in public places!! Or sometimes I use the much smaller VideomicGo although that one is susceptible to mobile phones and electrical interference unfortunately. Generally OK out in the open though and has a tighter polar pattern than the Micro or the Movo which are both a more loose cardioid type of mic. Just having a slightly tighter polar pattern cleans up the raw audio in noisy situations significantly. Generally, I use the Videomic indoors on camera (if I have to) because it has a slightly wider pickup and is less prone to weird effects that you can get with shotguns or supercardioid Mics and wall reflections. You can get a kind of ‘bass flutter’ indoors which cardioid don’t pick up, but outdoors, I definitely prefer a tighter pickup myself. Swings and roundabouts with these cheaper mics, I think.

Anyone know if the Movo will work with a digital voice recorder? Or any suggestion for a mic that will work well with a DSLR and a DVR?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I’m presuming that you mean something like a Zoom h1 or Tascam DR05? Yes, it does work as long as the recorder puts out a small voltage to power the mic. Might also be more convenient to have an extension lead.

@DanSpotYT

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I'll give it a try with my DVR (not sure if it will provide voltage) but if nothing else it will be great to use with my DSLR. Cheers!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Normally,, cameras put out around 1.5 - 2.5V. These work well at 5V. As long as you don’t put 24V or 48V phantom power into them......

Looking at photo's on Ebay, the Movo and Boya look the same mic but just branded different, also the Boya sounded louder to me as well, are they actually the same but just rebranded?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Makoy. I’m not certain. The bodies look similar but not sure about the capsules. I did find that the Movo seemed to have slightly less bass than the Boya consistently. Whether it’s a QC thing, barrel shape or capsule thing, I’m not really sure. To be honest, there’s not a lot between them all and differences are more a question of what sound you’d like and rejection rather than resolution. I think for an on camera, all three are fine. ie; they don’t need to be that quiet due to surrounding noise and they need to reject at the back. They all fit that purpose, but I don’t think Id be using any of them as a boom mic in quiet conditions if I want good results. They’d sound ok until you put them up against something better designed for the purpose. So as much as I wouldn’t vlog with an NT1a, I wouldn’t use these as studio mics. They all do what they’re designed for pretty well. I thought the Boya sounded louder too. I did normalise them all and never touched the gain initially. The bigger mid bass of the Boya might be making it seem louder perhaps?

@MakoyUnggoy

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, I do know that the Movo is louder than the Videomicro anyway just by the reviews I've looked at so far so I presume the Boya will be as well as they seem pretty much the same mic. I will only be using it for vlogging anyway so the Boya will be the one I think, cheers!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

The Boya does the job well. That extra beef in the bass helps outdoors actually (similar to the way the bass of the Rode VideomicPro helps) so you get a good presence. Indoors, mine was prone to wall reflections and resonances which is it might sound ‘fatter’ on my video. I was in a box room but close to the mics. Outdoors, they all behave differently. I love the comparative clarity of the Rode outside, but the Boya speech has a bit more weight to it. The Movo is kind of in between, so does a little better indoors as well though. Depends really just how good you want your audio. Indoors, I use condensers and pencil mics but outdoors, it really depends for me. Sometimes I use a cardioid lavalier on a short patch lead, pointing forwards or an omni pinned on me. Other times, something like a VideomicPro or Videomic. However, these three are a good compromise between size and sound and I think it’s just a matter of what sound you prefer. For all intents and purposes, they are pretty much the same in terms of quality. Maybe the Rode is more refined but you pay more for that in any case.

@MakoyUnggoy

6 жыл бұрын

Making a video indoors would be the last thing I would ever want to do if I could help it, I'm always out and about, thanks for your time and input though it's much appreciated

@alvaroarturo1907

4 жыл бұрын

Hi! Which of those three microphones would you recommend me to record myself playing piano and singing? I dont want to do post production. I was thinking of Rode Video Micro but Boya is cheaper and it sounds good I guess.

Great Reveiw! Which one do you prefer? Movo or Boya? I am not thinking about buying the rode since it is a bit out of my price range. Please reply... thank you!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I’m just finding my feet (and the confidence) to actually talk in front of a camera. My own preference is the Movo. The Boya seemed a bit too bassy, although I suspect they are the very same microphone really. Listening on my video, I hear the Boya quite fat sounding and the Movo just between the Rode and Boya. Bit like Goldilocks and ‘Who’s been eating my porridge’. This one’s too hot, this one’s too cold but this one is just right! ;) If I were on a budget, the Movo is very good and great value at $39.

@iraendozo

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig Thank You Very Much! Love from the Philippines! 😊

@meetmalaya

6 жыл бұрын

Amazingly Ira hey Ira, vlogger from Phil too! Were u able to buy ur mic? I'm having trouble looking for movo locally

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Malaya Vlogs, Mine was ordered from Amazon in the USA and they delivered all the way to the UK.

which is better for ASMR or silent vlogs, is it rode, boya or movo? Thank you! 😊

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sire if I’m honest. For asmr you need a quiet mic with very extended fr, so I’m not sure I’d use any of these. I would use a Rode NT1 or an NT1a.

Thank you for explaining about the carpet. I was about to downvote and unsubscribe, but now I feel better and can enjoy the video.

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad that you find yourself able to relax now. Makes a lot of difference. I was going to subscribe to your channel but realised I’d be on my own. If the wife wants it moved .... it gets moved. ; )

I'm going to buy Sony z1 and I don't know which microphone to buy. I'm between boya and movo, what do you recommend? Good video 👍

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

I have a ZV-1. It's a fantastic camera. It has a lot of menu options to get through though! My own preference is the Movo, Latina. Less prone to low end rumble. There is a Movo VXR Pro around in the USA. That looks a pretty good option too. I recently did a video on cheap mics kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZXmHo9qactyxZbg.html and another one that I made was on the new Takstar. That's a really nice mic. kzread.info/dash/bejne/na1tkq9-iNusepM.html

@Latinaenisrael96

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig thank you very much for your help!!

Which one would you pick between movo and boya?

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Movo

When used with smartphone does radio frequency interference causes interruption... on Boya mm1

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed that with any of them. I do get it when I use the RodeVideomic Go, but that has a plastic body.

@advaitandaarushvlog8657

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig thanks for quick reply.... Someone had written in his review about it that's why I asked.... By the way nice comparison you made.... Thanks

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Actually, my own test surprised me! Originally, I thought the Movo to be the bassy one, but it sounds more like the Boya is the most bassy with the Movo in the middle. Personally, I use the Rode more just for the added sharpness outside, where you can pick up a lot of rumble. Also, the Movo mount isn't quite as good.

So which has the best mic noise cancelation? I need 1 to record, I live in a loud neighborhood.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

In a loud neighbourhood, I would use none of these. I’d use a shotgun or lavalier mic.

@reactionreaper2501

4 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Right, anything you can advise with good ANC mic?

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know of any ‘active noise cancellation’ mics. Headphones, yes. Personally, if it’s that noisy, I would use a lavalier because the closeness to you would knock the noise on the head. Also sounds good because they’re close.

+Ian Craig - I just ordered the Movo microphone. Could you see if the Rode mount fits the Movo mic? I see they have Rode's shockmount on Amazon for $15 USD, and am wondering if it would be a worthwhile upgrade. Great video!

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Hi Dillon. No, the Rode mount doesn’t fit unfortunately. However, it’s just a bit bigger so putting something on the inside of the grip part of the Rode mount would do it. The Movo/Boya mount isn’t as good and just small taps on the camera go through whereas the Rode lessens it a lot. For me that’s why I prefer the Rode even though it doesn’t have as much bass content as the Movo/Boya. In practise, maybe the handling noise might be drowned out by surrounding sound in most cases though. I know that I felt that I had to be much more careful with the Movo than the Rode. The Movo gives a hotter signal but along with that comes more noise, so in the end, both might end up having similar noise levels. Movo is great value though and if they had a better mount, I think I’d switch. Currently, I mic up two people at the same time with a splitter and a couple of mini tripods and use the Boya and Movo to record on the left and right channels. In post, I cut the mic sound that I don’t want according to who’s speaking. That’s a great arrangement for a very low price. Another tip. The Movo without the deadcat is sharper so you gain treble by taking it off indoors and still retain the full bass. I keep the Rode for mobile use.

@DillonHuffmanOutdoors

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian! So you're saying the Movo is smaller diameter, and is loose in the Rode mount? Do you think that doing something like adding a few wraps of gaffers tape around the movo to build up the exterior would do the trick?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

That’s it Dillon. I read my reply to you this morning and wondered how you’d interpret it. The Rode mount is too large but gaffer tape would probably do it. I was wondering about sticking a piece of rubber on the inside of the mount, but I use the Rode quite a lot. For me, the mount is the deal breaker because of noise transmission, so I have taken the cats off both Boya and Movo for left/right channels indoors. Cheap dual mic system. I have a feeling that Boya and Movo are the same mic. Trouble is that adding a $15 mount to the Movo gets it closer to the Rode price. It is a nice, mellow sounding mic though so I was torn about using it..... basically worried about being left with noisy footage which couldn’t be repaired later very easily.

@DillonHuffmanOutdoors

6 жыл бұрын

Yea - I see what you mean. Really though, since the Movo comes with the windscreen, it's still a little cheaper than the Rode, right? I use a Canon T2i, so the hotter output of the Movo mic would be beneficial to me I think. What kind of noise is it that comes through the mount? Things like moving chairs on hard floors conducting through tripods? I'm going to be using it for "running-and-gunning" in the outdoors on hiking/camping/fishing trips, so that may be less of a concern for me. What do you think? Have you used it outside at all?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I have used it outside. It works very well but the handling noise can creep through. I noticed that if you gently tap the camera body, the noise is transmitted much more noticeably on the Movo. I like the sound of the Movo though. For running and gunning, I jump between the Rode Go and the Videomic which has a better bass response than the Go. (The bigger shotgun one that has been around for years and is often overlooked) I tend to use the Videomicro indoors since to me, it sounds very natural and the Videomic outdoors because it has a tighter pickup with a very good sound. If it’s somewhere very public, I use the Go outside since it’s a lot smaller than the Videomic. All three have Rycote mounts which really knocks camera handling noise on the head. For two people indoors, the Boya and Movo are great, used together ( without the deadcat) They become sharper in the treble and are easily ‘planted’ in good positions for much better audio than having one on the camera. I put one person on the left channel and the other on the right since both mics sound similar and the edit out the person not speaking in post and make the track mono. That makes a huge difference indoors and because the Mics are close, noise levels are low. Not only do you get more handling noise from the Movo on camera, but the noise floor is also slightly higher but once the audio is loud, it’s not so much of a worry.

Movo and Boya are from the same company (They also use the name "Sevenoaks". In fact, the MM1 and the BXr-10 share the same capsule model in different casing. Sound differences in frequency response could also be found among the same brand and model due to lack of consistency in the manufacturing process in China. Checkout the mini LED video lights both brand name offers, and you will see it is the same company.

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

So it makes sense to get the cheaper of the two.

MOVO sound better, but i have a question. Boya have included jack cable for smartphones, did Movo have it too?

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it works with smartphones Hans. www.amazon.co.uk/Movo-VXR10GY-Microphone-Windscreen-Smartphones/dp/B076X7VWYV/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1545985879&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=movo+vxr10&psc=1

so which one do you recomend movo or boya?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Movo.

@cfstudios2716

6 жыл бұрын

ok thanks!

@cfstudios2716

6 жыл бұрын

ok but is it worth it to buy boya if I can't find the movo one for less than 80$ and my buget is 70$?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Well, if you can’t afford a Movo, it looks like it has to be the Boya! The Movo is better but that’s out of your budget, so I’m not sure why you even asked. If you want to know whether the Boya is worth it, take a listen to the video. After all, I might not like its sound but you might. Using your ears is better than asking anyone what’s best. For me, the Rode is best out of the three. Ono is number two and Boya number three. If I had only enough to buy a Boya, then I guess it’s Hobson’s choice ...... you ain’t got a choice!!!

@jon123423

4 жыл бұрын

Boya MM1

i finally figured out that mm1 and vxr10 art exatly same mic. spec from manufacturer. apperance. but your review, sounds quiet different between mm1 and vxr10, why it happens?

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I don’t know because I literally disconnected and reconnected each one without touching any gains. I noticed that as well in the bass. The Boya seems to have more bass on the video but actually, I used them both together in order to record two people and wasn’t able to tell them apart. I have read around that they are the same so it did puzzle me too. When I noticed the extra bass on the Boya, I started to wonder whether there’s a quality control thing going on or whether I held the Boya closer for more proximity effect. I can’t see that I did this on my video but as you say, the specs are exact. I looked the companies up and they seem to be different, so they are probably using the same parts but making a differently named mic! Both are great value. Self noise seems the same as well as the gain, which are both higher than the Rode so in effect, I think the s/n ratio for all three is pretty much the same. I like the extra bass of the Movo/Boya but not the mount. That can send noise more efficiently from the camera body. I’d use either quite happily and actually, I do for recording two people in a room closely. I did that last week and couldn’t tell the difference. For mobile use, I use the Rode. How did you figure out that they are the same? Just specs or did you contact anyone? My guess is quality control isn’t too strict so what goes out might be quite variable. I’ve had similar with other Mics, so at least you can hear what differences you may get when buying one in terms of bass especially. I even checked the barrel sizes and they are exactly the same so it is a bit puzzling. One thing that is consistent between them is side and rear rejection. To me, they sound as though they are behaving in exactly the same way. Treble seems the same too. It’s just that bass region so if they are the same,it can only be quality control, which wouldn’t surprise me with Mics at this price and may account for why the Rode is more expensive (and perhaps they are more consistent) I’ve had two Rodes and they sound exactly the same.

@supersexupcr009

6 жыл бұрын

thanks. i'm seriouly considering what to buy.

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

I like the Movo sound but not the mount. Because of that I normally use the Rode. I am still quite puzzled why the difference between the Boya and Movo if they are the same. It can only be quality control which may account for their lower prices or the Boya is more reactive to proximity effect for some reason. When placed further back, they are both quite similar. If you have easy access to the Movo, that would be my preference if you don’t want the Rode. To me, both the Movo and Boya seem more ‘hemmed in’ sounding because the top end is less prominent. The Ride sounds better than both the other two if you can edit in post and raise the bass.

Isn’t the MOVO and the BOYA the same mic but rebranded?

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know. That is a rumour that has gone around.

@Mr.C0ffee

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig thanks for the quick reply! I also checked the frequency response and the signal to noise ratio and both of have the same! Maybe it’s just a rebrand after all. 🤔🤔. Love the content and much love from Mexico 🇲🇽

3:15 the Boya has a 2dB higher output than the Rode, so the noise floor is lower on the Boya at same levels. edit : maybe you mean background noise, not pre-amp noise.

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest, noise levels between all three are pretty much on a level. The Movo has a higher output but then higher noise until you back off to Rode level and they're pretty much the same. (To the ears anyway) In most recording situations the noise is minimal from all three and TBH, I wouldn't use any of them as a 'studio speech' type mic in silent conditions. They're all just cheap, run n gun type mics so most people wouldn't notice a 2db difference. Roughly a 25% difference in measured output?

@olafkliemt1145

2 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig thanks for your reply. can you please specify what you mean by "noise" ? ambient noise ? equivalent input noise ? signal to noise ratio ?

@iancraig

2 жыл бұрын

@@olafkliemt1145 background hiss after setting levels into camera.

@olafkliemt1145

2 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig thanks for being so responsive ! yes, louder means everything gets louder. i agree.

Movo or boya which one will you pick why

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. For me, the Movo does it although it also really depends on your preferences. The reason that I prefer the Movo is that it seems to have less bass content than the Boya which is really useful in mobile situations where you need to focus on the voice rather than boominess around you. For instance, if a car goes by, the Boya picks it up in a fairly heavy handed way. Strange though because the Boya lav mic isn’t like this and is one of my top ‘cheapo’ lav mics. I like it a lot as actually prefer it to the Movo lav. Some people have said to me that the Movo and Boya might be the same mic. I’m not sure because there are distinct sound differences, whether it’s due to the housing or capsule, I don’t know. My favourite of the bunch though is still the Rode. Again, because it very much focuses on the voice frequencies and does really well outside. Between the Boya and Movo though, I like the comparatively light handedness of the Movo and considering the cost, it is excellent value for money. The shock mount of both the Movo and Boya isn’t as good as the Rode, but the Rode one fits them, but unfortunately they’re not cheap. So for camera mics, I prefer the Movo. For lav mics, I prefer the Boya!!

@wondreal

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig thank you! Movo seems to be one I will pick. Do you have link to movo lav movie mic? Thank you again for very helpful advice

@wondreal

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig thank you it me again wanted to watch video on movo by good review that got sold on movo kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGqC0Lltg7HandI.html

@wondreal

6 жыл бұрын

Ian Craig also have any recommendations for headphone connection when using the movo to listen to audio

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Hi. I never made a movie comparing the Movo and Boya lavs. I just feel that not enough interest is shown in my movies to warrant spending time making them as much as I could. I can tell you the differences though. Both look EXACTLY the same but the sound is quite different. In this case, the Movo sounds a little ‘boxy’ by comparison and less treble extension. The Boya has a more open sound due to its more prominent treble, which is a sound that I again, prefer for voice pickup. Noise on both is pretty low. Both take a battery and here is a ‘downer’ for both - no led to tell you that the battery is getting flat. The batteries last a long time though. One of my favourite long lead lavaliers is the Boya and it’s really cheap. Not sure what you mean by ‘headphone’ connection. With regards to Caleb’s videos - he is really good. I like his attitude towards cheaper gear although he uses pretty high end gear himself. He has a great outlook and is very insightful. He’s one of the few people that I trust as far as reviews goes. I like him a lot.

i bouth a boya already

The Boya was the best!

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it.

Are you Max Clifford? 😅

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Are you Jimmy Saville?

Waiting for packages suck, I’m waiting for my micro

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

But it’s worth waiting for.

That one from the USA really should have been called The MoFo. I think they missed a trick, there.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

🤭 😂

I've seen that Movo VXR10 and Boya BY-MM1 would be the same, the Movo is 93$ and Boya 50$ Canadian. Looking at the price , almost half, no wonder who's copying who :) or rebranded. What do you think? (Rode Micro is 79$)

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure they are Robert. The Boya sounded fatter than the Movo. Whether it’s the same capsule in a different body or a different capsule, I don’t really know. My personal preference was for the Rode. It lacks weight in the bass, but actually, when you have a lot of sounds around you, that actually helps its sound. I often end up reducing the bass to lose rumbles so the Rode works for you really. Movo is good though. Great package too for the money. Kind of a toss up for me between the Movo and Rode.

@bobmusikk

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig Thanks Ian

@bobmusikk

5 жыл бұрын

​@@iancraig I finally bought the Boya, impatient to try it with my audio interface, it doesn't work. No output. Its written on Amazon, for phones and cameras,... and that was true :) So I tried it directly into the motherboard on-board sound card. Nothing. Well...

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Robert, sounds like it might be faulty. I used a TRS cable not TRRS, which would work on a phone but not on a recorder. Recently, I had two stereo Boya mics to test. One was hissing and the other was better so quality control might not be that great.

@bobmusikk

5 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig ya mine the hiss is major, I will return it today. I will choose a more conventional mic XLR, I dont do video

MOVO is waaay better

@iancraig

6 жыл бұрын

Really good value for money as well.

@JohnSoh

5 жыл бұрын

I liked how the MOVO sounded as well but you can hear the handling sounds...not quite as bad as the BOYA but not as good as the MICRO.

i can't stand bassy mics. they sound like echo. imo the rode sounds better.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

My preference is the Rode as well.

Omg your face lol British people are so great.

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

You think the face is funny? You want to see the rest .......... ;)

I dont know why I need a microphone😂😂

@iancraig

4 жыл бұрын

Well, since you have no content, you don’t actually need one. 😉

I think movo is boys just rebranding

you have a death cat on your head...sorry just kidding...i have one too

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

It used to be black and very long. What’s happening to me?

@gonzalojimenezrivero9666

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig me too sir

Boya MM1 is better one

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Each to his own, Douglas. ;)

@douglasbushman

5 жыл бұрын

Look Ian if you clean up audio in post this is an awesome mic but it sounds good out of the box-In-my option

@iancraig

5 жыл бұрын

Glad that you like it, Douglas.

Weirdest intro I've ever seen lol, I'm not hating, just my opinion.

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you noticed. It seems that others must think it ‘normal’!! 🤪 Here’s the weirdest video I’ve ever seen ....... kzread.info/dash/bejne/l5aWyI-PhtHXorQ.html

@chxu4003

3 жыл бұрын

@@iancraig I'm embarrassed

@iancraig

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😉