Mark, I appreciated your methodology in this comparison and the amount of effort it took to create and edit such a detailed video.

That’s Rode bass is getting easier to hear now. Great review. I have both mics and I feel the same way, but I think Deity offers more features and cables. That’s my new recommended mic for beginners. :)

You kinda gave it away at 9:00 haha. Very well thought out comparison video, thank you very much for your effort!

Excellent method for comparing the two mics - thanks for the work you put into it :)

Thanks for this, I'm in the market for a new microphone and audio set up and this was really useful

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Great to hear.

This was an incredibly well put-together video!

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Really appreciate this review. Also key for me is the consideration as to which one can dial directly into a laptop. Thanks! - Dane

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

Both can, the Deity comes with the cable, with the Rode you need yo buy an extra cable.

I love how you presented this!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Just got the Deity last week and it is an excellent addition. Feels really well built for the price. The difference compared to the on-camera mic is a hundred-fold improvement!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Sure is! it's such a first class little mic, I am very impressed.

@ExploringWorldYouTube

2 жыл бұрын

Please, one last question to understand better: with a mic. so small I believe you have to be close enough to it to get a good presence and a robust sound. Don't you think that shooting distant or very distant people outdoors (countryside) with the mic. built-in camera do a similar job? Do you believe that the mini mic. is it necessary to get better quality? Thanks again.

@eamonneamonn

Жыл бұрын

@@ExploringWorldKZread the in camera mic is always going to be worse. But yes you should get as close as possible to these small mics. So taking them off the camera and mounting them to a boom is really important. Just thought I'd respond since I saw no one had replied to your comment yet.

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

@Joshua Dunlap Photography Always boost a little in post. Target -12db to -6db

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

@Joshua Dunlap Photography Whatever is required, with out peaking the audio. There are some good tutorials on YT for that part.

I've tried using bad and good earphones. I assume your eq setting is one for all so I don't consider that test. For raw audio, the 20-100Hz range and the ext. input feature makes "Deity V-Mic D4 Mini" a better choice for me. Thanks for making this video with lots of effort!

wow, thanks for the comprehensive review sir!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

I like deity for its crisp sound. I like the rode for its isolating properties, keeping the noise down, and the bass sound. Your video showed me that I would choose the rode mic for vlogging outside, and the deity, I would choose for indoor recording.

Well done comparison! Of course, some will be pure audio preference but they are very similar. My ears voted for what send to be a wider freq response of A, or it was just more pleasant/natural to listen to.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video, Mark! Though don't be afraid to call out your preference. We often look to reviews to see what our favorite creators prefer and it's slightly annoying when they "conclude" with "it's up to you".

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, fair point.

@craigmcivor3034

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels Very annoying with its up to you. You have hands on and probably better speaker setup to judge the audio.

@brs293

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels So, what was your preference?

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

@@brs293 to be honest. I’m still not sure, I go back and forth, I think the Rode deals with sound reflections and background noise better and has a smoother sound, but I like the clear detailed tone of Deity, and the extra cable and input port, plus it’s a little cheaper.

@brs293

2 жыл бұрын

@Mark Wiemels I am going to get the diety, that extra input is handy. It gives me the option to add a lav mic.

Great review! Super useful 😁

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Great video for beginners like me! Thank you for saying what we should be listening for. I think I am going to go with the Deity for the extra cable and the input. Also the sound was brighter and I think I like that better than the bass, which to me tended to make a muffled sound. What kind of stand would you recommend I use for the mic when using it on the go with my phone? Thank you!

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

Just find a phone holder that has a cold shoe on top, to attach the mic.

great style of putting them to test. i liked Deity better. can you compare Deity D4 mini and Mirfak N2. the Mirfak seems to offer great quality for its price, highly recommended over Boya MM1. I'd love to see a blind test comparison in your style

I liked how your voice sounded better with mic B! That slight bass boost made it sound fuller. I’d be curious to hear your opinion on these 2 mics versus the Sennheiser MKE 200 (or 400) too! 👍

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to try to get my hands on the MKE mics to review, I have not used them yet.

@CodeDeb

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I’m thinking of investing in the Senheiser 400

I thought it was the other way round. I had the Deity Duo but I just sent it back. It’s a little clunky and I don’t want to deal with separate audio tracks in editing, at this point anyway. I like the sound of the Deity mini and I can see where it would be handy to have that additional input sometimes.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I also struggle with the work flow of editing the Audio from the Duo Mic.

Very helpful video and an amazing mic. 🤩

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Yep! it's a good one!

loved the blind test concept. D4 mini is my winner. can you review Mirfak N2 comparing it with Deity D4 mini

Great video 😊

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 😊

I know that when it comes to mic preference the choice is subjective, but I was really hoping that mic "B" would have been the Deity, specially since I already have on one the way in the mail. I really think in this test Rode did a better job in isolating your voice from the construction taking place to your side, and it had a nice base sound. That said, I'm sure I will be able to match it in post, something I really rather not do. However, I have to say that the Deity at this point is unmatched with the ability to connect a 2nd sound device like a lavalier mic and the price point.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

They are both very good. If you didn’t hear them back to back, you wouldn’t really pick out the small differences.

I love B before compressor and eq, but A is ok just with less low frequency. After Compressor and eq, A wins! So I pick up Deity D4 Mini , nice review ! I've got question, can D4 mini connect to PC as a microphone too?

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes D4 mini comes with the cord for computers, the rode does not.

both will need quite a bit of EQ but the extension on B towards the bass side might be easier to work with. A sounds nasaly and I think I hear a 1k peak in there. B sounds like your nose is stopped up so less response past around 3k and maybe a slight 1k peak there as well. I think the bass extension on B would be easier to work with because you can add a bit of air in post and have it sound the most natural on a device like a smart phone.

It would be interesting to know how the D4 compares to the Boya BY-MM1 (which is cheaper than the D4). I remember you comparing the Boya with the Rode in this test some time ago. Great video as always Mark.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I hope to do a larger scale, sub $100 microphone, shoot out at some point.

@josuegarduno7154

2 жыл бұрын

The Boya is like 20 USD and from most tests I've heard it sounds like sh*t. Very different price range, not a fair comparison.

I bought the Deity duo, and have a lav plugged into it, however I don't know how to get it so it records dual channel. It should record the mic into L and the Lav plugged into it into R. This works when plugged into my DSLR with the TRS cable, but as it states in their instructions, it will not do this when using the TRRS connection. I want to use this on my mobile phone (it has a better preamp with no noise) which is TRRS, but it just bakes the recording together in one track as Deity say. Wondering if I buy a TRS to USB adapter it will work through that port? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. I can't find any info on this at all. How does anyone else do this?

I found myself preferring B most of the time. But as soon as you applied the eq and compression, they were almost indistinguishable.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think once EQ'd it's hard to tell.

Hello! I choose a microphone for my phone, I stopped at comica vm10 pro and deity v-mic d4 mini. Please tell me which one is better to choose?)

Wonderful video, thanks to share it. I use Lumix GH6, do you know it and its ampli? In your opinion can I use Deity nic.? However, I never have to speak in front of the microphone (no vlogging), I only make documentaries but not in the city. I shoot working people in the open and remote countryside.Would you use a wind protection. Thanks.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Gh6 has good preamps, yes you need a deadcat, deity will work fine.

I know you emphasized the benefit of getting the mic as close as possible to the subject. Did you find that one was a clear winner in instances where you don't have that luxury?

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

The deity gave a more true/faithful sound. The rode gave better isolation against background noise and reverb, with more of emphasis on the lower frequencies.

@avi_g

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels would either of these work for concert audio when trying to prevent clipping from audio that is too loud or what the in camera microphone be fine as is but just with levels set to manual?

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

@@avi_g What you are talking about is called SPL, it is the loudest sound a mic can handle before distortion. The info is published in the specs of any mic information. I use the Deity D3 Pro for loud music and concerts, it has a high SPL and a gain control knob on the mic, so you can control your levels real time, on the mic, and don't even have to stop recording, and it's a pro level mic for $139.

To me the Rhode sounded better and had more base. It was also kind of funny when you mentioned that if you had the mics close up, you got the best sound, and warned that in the next shot there is some rattling - while in that announcement itself you already had noises. I am not 100% if these are popping noises or you had very slight bumps into them. I am currently having one of these massive Blue Yeti Mics and some Rhode Wireless go. But what annoys me most, is that: 1. They are both highly susceptible to movement. If I turn my head slightly during a recording, this will have a big impact on how it sounds. Angle and distance from mouth to video is cruicial. Also the Rhode Go doesn't sound that great without an additional mic, and these for some reasons always come with super long cables, which was the reason I bought the wireless mic in the first place (instad of a lavallier). So I am wondering if these Microphones would actually do better in that regard, if you position them like 70cm away. I guess it will not make that much of a difference anymore in regards of whether you are 10 cm closer or turn 10 degrees to one direction?

Great video

I love this blind comparison. My ear can't really hear the difference inside and even outside they were pretty similar to me as well! (B was just a tad better to me outside). Now I gotta see which was which hehe

@officialglammother1111

Ай бұрын

B was Rode

The link doesn't work for your overhead boom. Could you let us know which one you bought? Cheers

Thank you. Tempted by the D4 mini for reasons you have stated. Now that the Rode Micro II is available, which would you choose, Mark - Rode v I, v II, or D4 Mini?

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

The V II is very good, but I have not tested them side by side.,

Hello, can you answer me, does this mic provided good bass recording, like when you record music with bass would it provide good bass output that it recorded also?

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I would say yes, but I would also suggest you look up the frequency response range, and frequency response graph, if they are available.

Listening through some Sennheiser HD600s. The A mic does sound far more detailed even if the bass isn't as noticeable

Nice video, thanks! What is that desktop boom arm? Looking to buy one, but when I click on the link, it shows a selection, not a specific model.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I think it was innoGear, but there are lots of them, all the same just sold by different brands. they are all the same boom arm. Priced from $15-$30 US. try this link, the Neewer version, same arm -geni.us/kXy9dkI

@vadims.3956

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels cool, thanks!

Man pls help me I bought the Deity D4 mini but there is like a buzz? like a constant noise and I can make the whole audio track quieter but then my voice is quieter as well and running the audio through denoising software everytime really sucks so if I can ask you how the hell that do you not have ANY background noise with D4 mini?? BTW great video :D (also now I kinda regret buying it because quality wise its like default microphones from myd dslr)

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a cable or connection problem.

lol...short answer..."it depends"...great video to compare, both are good mics. I already have the Rode, so I'll stick with that then, thanks for comparing the two!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it’s all personal preference.

Good video mate - just wish the Deity V-Mic D4 Mini was that price in Aus. Great comparison in real world environments

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I suspect we will see the price come down a bit, if a few local shops start stocking it.

@malikmantras7238

2 жыл бұрын

I m also confused between these two.. In India Rode video micro is about 80 US dollar and d4 mini is about 70 US dollar. Sound wise i think Rode is looking much deeper and basy.. what's your view point.. shoud i go with d4 mini...

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

@@malikmantras7238 sound is personal preference really, I like them both. D4 is cheaper and has more versatility with the input port and extra cord, the pure sound on the rode might be a little better.

I could watch this stuff all day! I upgraded last year to the rode video pro plus and have never looked back. However, I love learning!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Rode makes great gear, most of it is make right here in Australia (where I live). You really can’t go wrong with anything Rode.

@DanCBearded

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels the only time I was HIGHLY disappointed is with their cheap video go mic. The hissing from drawing the power from the camera was terrible. I was drawn in by the name and price when starting out, but I wish I would have just went bigger

Too funny. I was watching the time tick down without you reveling what A and B were. Way to jump back in at the end.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I actually forgot to say which was which! I only picked it up in editing and had to go back and shoot that last part.

@faithandprovidence

2 жыл бұрын

Haha!!! I thought the same thing! I’m like…waittttt which is which! 🤣Great video! Was deciding between the two today! I actually liked B a touch better, but like the price and extras with A, so I think I’m gonna order that one! Thanks for doing all the leg work! It was great to watch! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

Great work, I thought they'd be reversed due to the "bass" on B and the clearer sounding A. Interested to know how far away they can be to boom in, the first minute sounds great but when you move them closer, the audio does sound more complete (full?). For "talking head" shots a tiny "mini" mic does look a bit funny when it's in shot. Is there much difference from this vs something like a rode NTG (which is a good $200 more) or a cheaper Comica CVM VM20, because if they have to be in shot, these could look a little better IMO.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Good pick up on the sound variation! At the start of the video, I had positioned the Mic, but then was leaning into the shot and the mic was pointing more towards the top of my head, rather than the optimum position pointing to mouth/chest. I adjusted it and that's when the audio improved. I'm about to do a more detailed video on booming and mic placement. The sound is overwhelmingly about personal preference. So a $200 mic is only better if you prefer the sound signature, also check out Deities premium mics. The Deity D3, and D3 Pro, they look like very good value, but I have not had a chance to test them yet.

@oworthington

2 жыл бұрын

​​ @Mark Wiemels awesome, thanks for the detailed response Mark. Yes, a video on mic placement will be really useful especially working from home setups, something like this can clearly x10 your audio yet it seems with audio the law of diminishing returns applies heavily and things can get very expensive. Looking forward for my D4 Deity, I think (hope) it'll be good enough for “everything” just interested to see whether I can get away with using just this mic, voice overs (up close but not in shot) and then boomed in for talking head.

@oworthington

2 жыл бұрын

and just FYI this is an interesting setup with the Rode NTG and a USB-C, but it's hard to justify the extra $200+ check it out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGeqwZqieanQp84.html

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

@@oworthington that was a cool setup. The mic position and room treatment was poor though, so the audio wasn’t very good. Just a case in point where a well positioned, cheaper mic, with some sound treatment in the room, would have sounded far better.

@oworthington

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels great, thanks. Can’t wait to see your setup suggestion video 👍

I got the deity d4 mini and it just peaks like crazy when using it with my iphone, probably gonna send it back and get the rhode instead

I just started a new channel and i really need a nice microphone. I have a blue snowball but need something so that I don't have to sync my audio always. I have the boya bym1 but there is some issue with my canon 200d. I use a 24mm lens. And i shoot like 1.5 arm's length from my camera. Should i go for a rode smartlav or rode videomicro on camera or a zoom h1n on a boom pole? Some help would be really helpful!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I would boom a Deity D3 pro, or a Rode videomic go II, use an extension cable to connect to the camera.

@SohamBasak1996

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels thank you!

The entire time i liked the Rode (B) better. I felt it did not peak as high or as much in the beginning of the video.

Other reviews show up that the deadcat for the Rode is not as efficient as the Deity's.

for the whole video i thought A will be rode cause it sound better overall. What a twist.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how that happens, that is the cool thing about the blind tests.

I'm no audiophile but I balk against 'clarity' in the high end especially if it means it's lacking in the Base response. Most KZread videos I like have good Base response. It's not the top end that matters to me. I need a flatter response. B is an easy winner for me.

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@WillNewcomb

Жыл бұрын

Bbbuuuutttt, I'd probably go with A for budget considerations and flexibility! It's about trade offs haha! Great comparison! Thank you.

insanely brilliant comparo. the last part was hilarious as i was actually gonna hit the unlike button 😂

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

I suspect many of the viewers miss that part!

I prefer the B. Clear and without crisp sounds.

Lol the ending was special!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

lol, yah, was a genuine screw up. I Only picked it up while editing.

@aroncontinuousconversation

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels still was very funny and actually looked intentional. Q: Which adapter would you use for the mic with a Samsung S21? (Type C)

throughout the video the mic he uses just sounds a little different..A is more delicate and B a little bass.. in my opinion both mics are good..some people prefer to listen to instrumental music and some people like to listen to jazz music, maybe rnb and maybe rock..so there is no final answer..if you still have many questions about which mic is good, you better buy a more expensive and higher spec mic.. "what you pay for is what you get" but not for fakes ..

I didn’t like “A”. It sounded thinner and more nasal like. “B” had a bit more presence, and a nicer overall tone.

To me there was no deference in Audio quality and that will make the Diety V-D4 Mini the best bang for the buck with it's price and extra cable. A no brainer IMHO

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's a good one. Can't go wrong.

So which one is 'A' and which one is 'B' ???

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the video.

@Chrome0wl

2 жыл бұрын

@@markwiemels do you only talk about what is a and b? i watched the complete video and cant find it :D im not a native speaker.

@Chrome0wl

2 жыл бұрын

ahhhh its after the goodbye sentence. in the last seconds omg haha

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chrome0wl watch the video end

My dachshund barks when it hears your voice in my speakers. I literally have to use my headphones on low volume, otherwise my dog will keep on barking. lol. Nice video though. Thank you.

I knew straight away B ws the Rode because Rode is the king of muffled sound...

I was surprised that the Deity was A. It sounds so much better than the Rode microphone.

I'm 2:11 in and prefer mic B. Seems to have more cardioid isolation and response in the bass frequency while still retaining clarity in the higher > 4K frequencies

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Good insight.

RODE for sure! Has a better sound quality.

Your audio tests were far to short for a serious comparison. That is one thing you learn with experience. My preference was for the clarity of microphone A as opposed to the more bass in microphone B.

@wifiguy2587

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree. I thought that the test lengths were fine, and that Mark managed to pack in a pretty thorough range of different test conditions. And I don't need a 60 min test to choose between two $50-ish mics. I found myself leaning towards B (Rode) most of the time; A (Deity) sounded a bit thinner and a touch hollow sometimes. But it still cleaned up nicely. I'd happily use either.

really sucks with A, i can not afford micro A

From the first minute I realized that B is Rode. All Rode are dominated by low frequencies

10:48 Mark plz tell me it's a joke 😱😱😱 Cuz i really can't believe tht that's DEITY D4 MINI beats the RODE VIDEOMICRO 😱😱😱...!

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Those are are the facts. It’s all really personal preference, some people prefer the Rode, others the Deity.

I almost got so mad at the end of the video 😂

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Most people click off and don’t even see that part. I’m surprised this video doesn’t have more thumbs down!

Jajajaja, I was like, "What the hell, you didnt say witch was what"

@markwiemels

Жыл бұрын

I did, at the very end.

B is way better

At this stage Deity it’s 10 US more expensive than Rode, but from what I’ve noticed it offers more and is more sensitive.

@markwiemels

2 жыл бұрын

Current price on Amazon USA is D4 = $49, VideoMicro = $52, I guess it changes all the time. Even at the same price you get the extra port and the extra cord with the Deity.

@josuegarduno7154

2 жыл бұрын

As of right now the Deity is like 5 USD less than the Rode