Robert Wright: The logic of non-zero-sum progress

www.ted.com Author Robert Wright explains "non-zero-sumness," a game-theory term describing how players with linked fortunes tend to cooperate for mutual benefit. This dynamic has guided our biological and cultural evolution, he says -- but our unwillingness to understand one another, as in the clash between the Muslim world and the West, will lead to all of us losing the "game." Once we recognize that life is a non-zero-sum game, in which we all must cooperate to succeed, it will force us to see that moral progress -- a move toward empathy -- is our only hope.

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  • @KyleClements
    @KyleClements3 жыл бұрын

    Robert Wright is incredibly wise and insightful. After so many years of reading his audiobooks and listening to podcasts, it's nice to put a face to the name

  • @McRyach
    @McRyach7 жыл бұрын

    "Intelligent pursuit of self-interest". Great line! All the alliances and treaties divide people into "Us" and "Them".

  • @artocain
    @artocain4 жыл бұрын

    This Ted Talk, Robert Wright's insights on intelligent selfishness improving morality inspired me, my business, and how I approach competitors and business partners. Great talk!

  • @ZeeshanAliEngr
    @ZeeshanAliEngr4 жыл бұрын

    This Ted Talk is so underrated, may be due to the complexity of the subject. I am a Muslim living in Pakistan. Contrary to the popular belief in west, Pakistan is one of the most friendly countries for foreigners, have rich & colorful culture, and very open minded people. It is very different from what media portrays.

  • @VideoMagician77

    @VideoMagician77

    2 жыл бұрын

    If Pakistan is so open-minded, why are the laws there so close-minded?

  • @JimitRupani

    @JimitRupani

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol open minded where they found Osama. Open minded where they just killed all the minorities by forceful conversation. Sending and training terrorists all over the region. Such a pisslam

  • @ChannelMath

    @ChannelMath

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VideoMagician77 I'm only guessing that, like most countries, regular people have little say in government. See the Iran protests right now, or the US when it comes to many issues (health care, banks, spying on citizens, congressional salaries and investing rules)

  • @Kevinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    @Kevinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    8 ай бұрын

    @@VideoMagician77it’s called culture and you can’t say nothing to that because we are different.

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    @mayacho4910 Жыл бұрын

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    @theresagarcia1218

    Жыл бұрын

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    @danielkey1463

    Жыл бұрын

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    @mayacho4910

    Жыл бұрын

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    @danielkey1463

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @raymondbarnes5264

    @raymondbarnes5264

    Жыл бұрын

    Stick with a good company by either not selling when it’s going lower and/or buying more at that time.

  • @HannesRadke
    @HannesRadke7 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the most important Ted Talk I ever watched. Sadly people seem to have a natural inclination to flatline in the brain when it comes to systems-thinking.

  • @seal3081
    @seal30817 жыл бұрын

    game here after watching Arrival.

  • @jchandler

    @jchandler

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ayy me too

  • @petermcccc

    @petermcccc

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Me too

  • @manas0457

    @manas0457

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too

  • @johnnybauer4950

    @johnnybauer4950

    3 жыл бұрын

    same

  • @TheDoctornaut

    @TheDoctornaut

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Bought his book too.

  • @panpiper
    @panpiper16 жыл бұрын

    Every single bit of progress our world has ever achieved has been the result of a non-zero sum relationship. It is cruicial that people understand that this hold true in virtually all cases, from economics to politics. The world, life, is not zero-sum.

  • @TripuraiHrim
    @TripuraiHrim12 жыл бұрын

    2 decades ago, the same idea was conveyed by UG " The cooperation there springs from the total selfishness of mutual survival. It's like the cell in your body which also can survive only when it cooperates with the cell next to it. Otherwise it has no chance of survival. That's the only way we can live together. But that has to percolate to the level of, if you want to use that word, your `consciousness'. Only then you will live in this world peacefully"

  • @therightsofthereader6094

    @therightsofthereader6094

    7 жыл бұрын

    who is UG?

  • @Darwyn43
    @Darwyn4316 жыл бұрын

    Two things: power is normal in natural in some respects. Dominance hierarchies are built into nature after-all, for their natural organizing and efficiency tendancies. Also, power doesn't have to be exploitive or imbalanced; arguably, his whole thesis would show that balanced power would be selected for. Secondly, new technologies make new frames possible - the answer does not lie completely with us, but with the opportunities we create with new technologies, perspectives, ideas, rules, etc.

  • @pimwiersinga8822
    @pimwiersinga88225 жыл бұрын

    Very intelligent speech. Thank you.

  • @t0kt0k
    @t0kt0k16 жыл бұрын

    Wright actually brings this up in his book, Nonzero. Even if we're all in the same boat, it doesn't mean the boat won't sink.

  • @TSHEKHAN
    @TSHEKHAN5 жыл бұрын

    Underated. I hope to work with you in the future. God bless.

  • @panpiper
    @panpiper16 жыл бұрын

    I believe TED is posting their entire archive. I approve.

  • @thatsnotabird
    @thatsnotabird14 жыл бұрын

    I like the way he talks. and I like his idea.

  • @ChristopherHouser
    @ChristopherHouser11 жыл бұрын

    So well said.

  • @DavidMorley123
    @DavidMorley1233 жыл бұрын

    That crowd was so clueless. Not a single laugh at his joke at 18:48, "If you ask me why I'm not in favor of bombing Japan, I'm only half-joking because they made my car." Very witty vis-a-vis his deep thesis. ... and he was well dressed. David, Honorary Member of the Good Guys Club.

  • @jedics1
    @jedics16 жыл бұрын

    "Moral evolution" Something that should be talked about in Government and big business across the world a LOT more.

  • @popitypop
    @popitypop16 жыл бұрын

    indeed there will be power conflicts, as people by nature do have different strengths, but what is neglected is as do they have weaknesses. one is not able to accomplish everything that it requires for overall or for that matter personal interests completely, since the needs and wants of a person will in the first place never cease to increase. therefore, there is indefinitely a need for others to provide aid both qualitatively and quatitatively for mutual benefit, and grow together as a group.

  • @swindle1989
    @swindle198915 жыл бұрын

    I'm inclined to agree with you

  • @iAmEhead
    @iAmEhead13 жыл бұрын

    @Farweasel I think the issue involved is disparities in power and knowledge. Also, disparities in hopelessness, despair, comfort, etc... When you have a poor, hungry, sick, and desperate person entering into a contract with a happy, fat, well-rested, complacent person, the later is almost certainly going to have more bargaining power and is going to end up with a better deal. They will use their position to do so. Some people find this situation distasteful, or even immoral.

  • @Sternertime
    @Sternertime6 жыл бұрын

    Abbott is death process

  • @ryno_adaptfitness
    @ryno_adaptfitness3 жыл бұрын

    Gotta be kidding me. I just realized this is the same guy that wrote a book I'm reading, Nonzero. 👍

  • @lordmetroid
    @lordmetroid16 жыл бұрын

    Yes, exactly! However the claim as I understood it in the speech that was made, was that there is selection for more complexity which is not what the proof supports.

  • @CharlesvanderHaegen
    @CharlesvanderHaegen13 жыл бұрын

    Humorous and wise: Reasons to be cheerful: • Growing lethality of Hatred • Death spiral of negativity Major round of moral progress is absolutely key....business class morality • He is after the root causes of their hatred of Americans : understanding them will force us to a higher moral basis • All the salvation the world needs is the intelligent pursuit of self-interest in a disciplined and careful way From zero sum to the win-win meme

  • @junjalapeno7773
    @junjalapeno77733 жыл бұрын

    There goes my favorite modern writer!!!

  • @Darwyn43
    @Darwyn4316 жыл бұрын

    ...organization is accomplished, but rigidity is avoided. In that sense, as the needs of the environment dictate, communication and the variation in roles can allow the structure to switch like a matrix to the new goals of the adaptive unit. If one person's strengths are played, they lead; if a new challenge arises, an all-encompassing meaningful framework to understand nature and ourselves within it will allow each person to communicate and understand what needs to happen toward a solution.

  • @Darwyn43
    @Darwyn4316 жыл бұрын

    I think I see what you are referring to. In some sense, it is the evolving relationship between the internal dynamic and the internal's balance with the external. As the internal dynamic settles, the relationship evolves and the frame is no longer good, yeah? I have a certain outlook that what we are evolving is an increasingly FLEXIBLE adaptive system. That's how eukaryotic cells emerged, their flexibility. From the society to the family, the best structure will be one where....

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    depends completely on how you define "greatest" - but in some ways I quite agree. :-)

  • @popitypop
    @popitypop16 жыл бұрын

    however, the question comes in, which is how exactly should a system be built to encompass the needs in complete balanced, so that all are to benefit in ways that they desire, should they contribute substantially not comparatively, but based on their own abilities (stregnths and weaknesses). next is the question of mindset,which as suggested is evolving, but untill all the weakest links have been eliminated,or improved, the chain will not hold, and to achieve that is near impossible,wif morality

  • @abelieversperspective9595
    @abelieversperspective95954 жыл бұрын

    And so it shall not be mistaken, there are more directions to a compass than is commonly apprehended.

  • @esaman
    @esaman16 жыл бұрын

    lol I love that guy. He didn't say anything new to me, but he made my day with the humor and the character.

  • @ParallaxFilm
    @ParallaxFilm14 жыл бұрын

    Interesting.

  • @t0kt0k
    @t0kt0k16 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I remember Gould made this point in some of his writings. But my thinking is, if complexity is a distribution that used to go from, say, 0 to 10, and now it goes from 0 to 10000, then isn't it still fair to say that complexity has increased? Not on average, certainly, but the upper limit is much higher than it used to be. So essentially, the "most complex organism" marker tends to get higher and higher, even if complexity doesn't increase throughout the distribution.

  • @chaoticnique9748
    @chaoticnique97484 жыл бұрын

    He looks like a young Jordan Peterson. Lol

  • @PMKehoe

    @PMKehoe

    3 жыл бұрын

    And yet RW is older than JP... :)

  • @Darwyn43
    @Darwyn4316 жыл бұрын

    I get so frustrated when people say "that's so obvious" - yeah, well than why doesn't anyone seem to know it? The point of this kind of work is to make explicit, to make conscious, what we may know subconsciously to have this rule over our petty thoughts of the moment. Articulating the obvious has proven elusive for thousands of years, so contribute, don't dismiss.

  • @leogrey3097
    @leogrey30977 жыл бұрын

    Morality is game theory applied, the interaction between zero-sum and non-zero-sum games within a system. Exploitation of non-renewable resources is a zero-sum game in the long run. The only "moral" change we need to make to our culture is to move towards renewable energy sources and things might have a chance to get back to normal. Looking at history, though, it's usually full out war and only after that do we get back to "business as usual".

  • @ben3660

    @ben3660

    5 жыл бұрын

    too consequentialist. Try again John Stuart Mill

  • @apeshitcrazyman
    @apeshitcrazyman4 жыл бұрын

    Funny piece of human nature in there @ 17:30 , the irony of him speaking about hating anne Coulter and poking fun at the bush administration, while simultaneously saying humankind needs to get along better, stop hating, and better understand each other, just goes to show how difficult that really is. So much to overcome as a species that we truly might not make it another few thousand years.

  • @TheDoctornaut

    @TheDoctornaut

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. The more I digest the current state of our world, the more I realize that both sides of the political spectrum, in general, A) believe they're on the moral side of issues and B) don't know what they don't know. Another way of saying this is we need to learn how to unify without getting played by forces that feign unification for their own parasitic purposes.

  • @apeshitcrazyman

    @apeshitcrazyman

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheDoctornaut Very right! Thanks so much for your great comments. It's Very nice to hear some intelligent discourse and sound thoughts here; very reassuring. Have a great one!

  • @Transcendingmuse
    @Transcendingmuse3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Sushant Singh Rajput, for brining me here. Love you beyond any oblivion. #JusticeForSushant

  • @t0kt0k
    @t0kt0k16 жыл бұрын

    And as the population grows, the range of diversity grows. Even though the mean stays the same, the outliers in both directions are further apart. Except you can't get less complex than a certain point, so it only extends in one direction: toward more complexity.

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    Wright's book - NON-ZERO is amazing. I highly recommend it. :-) [Obama 08! & WE CAN'T WAIT!!]

  • @Pakistanimangopeople
    @Pakistanimangopeople3 жыл бұрын

    Came here to understand non zero sum game after watching arrival movie.

  • @lordmetroid
    @lordmetroid16 жыл бұрын

    The reason for why one see an increase in complexity is because the natural catastrophes that leads to mass extinctions annihilates the large organisms while bacteria just is to small to be affected. Giving an illusion that the mean complexity is being offset over time. This is not the case. The mean complexity of the species in total stays at the same value. Only the population of organisms grows.

  • @reivilo
    @reivilo16 жыл бұрын

    is the youtube account recycling speeches?

  • @freedomwatches2454
    @freedomwatches24545 жыл бұрын

    I liked what I heard until I heard that should I have an enemy Ann Coulter was someone to which I should prefer. Should we have to count on anyone or group as pompous as this to further our civilization and/or Humanity we may want to reconsider. DHJL

  • @mouselink
    @mouselink5 жыл бұрын

    How self-important and grandiose is TED?!

  • @Forrestwilliam
    @Forrestwilliam10 жыл бұрын

    I love how he acts like he's doing us a favor by telling us this

  • @DK0526
    @DK052614 жыл бұрын

    @thomasw78 most people even if playing for fun keep score.

  • @jankohrasko3
    @jankohrasko38 жыл бұрын

    Zero sum and Nonzero sum are confusing. Gaining or loosing and Trading, respectively, would be clearer.

  • @frederikdortmund

    @frederikdortmund

    8 жыл бұрын

    Trades can also be understood as win-win / gaining, which they usually are, in an exchange of goods or services.

  • @jankohrasko3

    @jankohrasko3

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Frederik Precisely. My point exactly.

  • @MojoBonzo

    @MojoBonzo

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@frederikdortmund but its not... non zero sum is just a different view on a zero sum game... in his tennis example, the game didnt change... his view changed... the game is still team A trying to beat team B... the two players in team A are not in a "co-op" game, where there is no one losing... its just the opponent team that will lose if they win... same with trading... when i sell you something im not winning... im giving away a resource which is finite... when i sell my labour im not winning... im giving away time of my life(the most unique of resources for each one of us) for an amount of money, dictated by conditions that are away from my hands(its not like i can go to my boss, and tell him the i value my time 1bn $ per hour, because there are people in bangladesh or w/e that value their time in 1$ per day, and thats something i cannot change!)... so if we are going to present our unique PoVs im down several billions of dollars, and i demand compensation! xD

  • @KawasakiKiteh
    @KawasakiKiteh5 жыл бұрын

    Now get your opponent to believe that. Not going to happen.

  • @thomasw78
    @thomasw7815 жыл бұрын

    I think you mean playing tennis is a NON zero-sum game? The reason Wright says it was zero-sum is because he's talking about the outcome of the game. But if you don't care about the outcome and just enjoy playing tennis regardless who wins then in that case playing tennis is a NON zero-sum game.

  • @GR_BackingTracks
    @GR_BackingTracks2 жыл бұрын

    *Summary:* Empathy is Self-interest.

  • @JamesThomas-pj2lx
    @JamesThomas-pj2lx4 жыл бұрын

    Life is a zero sum game, period.... Until we can travel the stars..... even then....

  • @unsupportiveperson7724

    @unsupportiveperson7724

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not, just don't have too many kids and don't make mistakes ever

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    fair enough ;-)

  • @depalans6740
    @depalans67402 жыл бұрын

    "capitalism has been a constructive force..." has not aged well

  • @Lihinel
    @Lihinel16 жыл бұрын

    negative outcome for both participating partys.

  • @jbcnxter2384
    @jbcnxter23844 жыл бұрын

    #optimallyoptimized

  • @huunguhuynh5687
    @huunguhuynh56873 жыл бұрын

    done

  • @abelieversperspective9595
    @abelieversperspective95954 жыл бұрын

    Human beings theoretically have an equal right to redress after power has been exerted, but they do not have equal power at their disposal. And as the west has exerted undue influence in the Middle East for 14 years - and I don't think that's a strongly arguable point by now, it isn't a difficult comprehension task when attempting to ascertain the motives of so-called "terrorists". And convolution of the word "hate" to the exclusion of any possibility concerning justice without vengeful motives so that resistance, military or otherwise is so labeled, and made invalid thereby is psychological warfare par excellence. As the resistance grows the enemy trembles, complaining about the emerging powers that are amassing against them, as they increase in valence and cohesion. Thus they seek to utilize the mysticism of complex multiplicity and false dichotomies to create diversions hoping these tactics will cause their foes to miss the real mark. But the name does not escape me. And I will be repaid.

  • @alvaug2
    @alvaug24 ай бұрын

    Não seria "non-zero-sum game!?

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to understand you, but it isn't happening.

  • @user-xc3xn4uc7b
    @user-xc3xn4uc7b5 жыл бұрын

    Кто з 2019 лайк

  • @AdamMObara

    @AdamMObara

    4 жыл бұрын

    Witaj, Bracie :D

  • @abelieversperspective9595
    @abelieversperspective95954 жыл бұрын

    Interesting. And a bit amusing that a secular person proposes to instruct the world about morals. He makes the exclusive truth statement which asserts the fundamental equality of all people with no indication of what property or properties of each individual that are actually equivalent to all other people. It cannot be their height, weight, any of their various aptitudes, certainly not their holdings in terms of wealth, nor their popularity, and definitely not their power to influence variables, either within their close circle of personal affiliations or the wider political schemata. He also states that non-zero sum strategy is based on value corollaries which are always judged according to self interest, which when left in its most primitive, shallow conceptualizations, can only lead to short term gains, and long term losses. The war within which we are presently engaged is a zero-sum game, winner take all. The Earth is as a pie, and every big slice that is carved from it, impoverishes everyone not invited to the party. There is only one who is fit to be the Lord of men, but I am no name dropper. My interest is his, as his was demonstrated with perfect valor. And absent valor you will fall into the bottomless pit while convinced your journey is to find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And in this you shall be consumed. My valor fails me. Yet I will not stumble. For he alone is steady.

  • @S2Cents
    @S2Cents15 жыл бұрын

    His grayish brown, black attire is fitting. Or maybe he should have worn a Hawaiian shirt.

  • @ManyInfiniteComments
    @ManyInfiniteComments13 жыл бұрын

    Didnt Richard Dawkins make a video 30 years ago about this very same topic through the prisoner's dilemma?

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    it's wide open. still nothing. ;-) peace

  • @Zetimenvec
    @Zetimenvec16 жыл бұрын

    but you can't blame the people of the nation of america directly, only indirectly by saying that their ignorance to these disgusting actions of their government is an attributing causation. Too, american government and legislation makes it fairly difficult for american protests to do anything concerning global issues.

  • @crudhousefull
    @crudhousefull12 жыл бұрын

    Talk about moral evolution in the west. The east was far more morally evolved. Actually, the west is only now starting to wake up morally and they are still very short-sighted in their actions. Meditate more, at least now you're on the right track

  • @nadineswag5265
    @nadineswag52655 жыл бұрын

    耳慣れない

  • @platermanone
    @platermanone14 жыл бұрын

    I have difficulty digesting his 'ok's' and i think he's still eating lunch.

  • @BMacW650
    @BMacW65013 жыл бұрын

    Everybody go read books from Ron Paul and Richard Dawkins. World peace coming soon

  • @blackmaxpayne
    @blackmaxpayne12 жыл бұрын

    its why relationships fail today at damn near a geometric rate. no cooperation in relationships. damn girl, cooperate with me... bend over. its that simple!

  • @mutbutyt
    @mutbutyt13 жыл бұрын

    @earthfell In your first line u comment "evolutionist" argument - immediately we can see that any further comments u make will be hopelessly biased and prejudiced

  • @stoniecad7805
    @stoniecad78056 жыл бұрын

    666th

  • @mslindqu
    @mslindqu6 жыл бұрын

    This is a ridiculously self centered perspective. Your analysis of the game doesn't include all of the players and we very easily see this in the measured effects of global warming. Do the analysis with all the players and I think you come up with a different outcome. Good and bad are opposites that rely on each other. If the outcome is fully positive then it actually has no meaning.

  • @alfienykabutler5919
    @alfienykabutler59195 жыл бұрын

    God is good.

  • @queennancy6006
    @queennancy60067 жыл бұрын

    watching this after trumpf is president in 12 days . America first he said , Lett's see what happen after 4 years.

  • @andrewlee8843
    @andrewlee88433 жыл бұрын

    Ann Coulter; its great to be hated by her lol

  • @baronmorris
    @baronmorris16 жыл бұрын

    ZERO SUM INTRUDER ALERT!! lol

  • @tigsik3128
    @tigsik31283 жыл бұрын

    Alex jones brought me here

  • @chuckm1961
    @chuckm19615 жыл бұрын

    A man stares at his belly button, makes countless unproven assertions and talks in circles about nothing.

  • @somor98
    @somor9816 жыл бұрын

    Geez, this guy is not a very good game theorist.

  • @bibleaday154
    @bibleaday1547 жыл бұрын

    His opening is lousy.

  • @mrbillings7239

    @mrbillings7239

    7 жыл бұрын

    Killed it better than most comedians

  • @mrbillings7239

    @mrbillings7239

    7 жыл бұрын

    ...and not just the hacks

  • @Kurtlane
    @Kurtlane15 жыл бұрын

    Whatever it's grounded in, this view is insanely naive. The details about "overreacting" and "morally redeaming" "trying to understand why they hate you" and "root causes" "appreciate their humanity" and the rest are just as naive. Robert, if you really want to understand why they hate you, immagine you're a little Jewish guy and they're ufter your blood because they claim you brink blood of their babies. Or for no reason at all, as in "hep hep" riots.

  • @nastassja08
    @nastassja0815 жыл бұрын

    kurtlane: "Robert, if you really want to understand why they hate you, imagine you're a little Jewish guy and they're after your blood because they claim you drink blood of their babies...." and because you're jewish, the US gives you the most advanced weapons and you have the best espionage agency in the world and all they can do is just "claim you drink blood of their babies..." whatever. so robert is still (w)right.