The button that causes bulbs to light up is a test button to confirm the bulbs work. There is a big STOP bulb there you should pay attention to. It comes on with hydraulic failure. Of course the bulb needs to work for it to illuminate. The spoke should be where it is so it does not impale you in an accident.

@imagseer

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I think the spoke is supposed to be 7 o'clock so it's OK

@rotocrash

10 ай бұрын

Steering wheel spoke is correct. In accident it guides the driver towards center of car.

@allareasindex7984

10 ай бұрын

The Citroen was used as a camera car to film horse racing because it is almost perfectly stable.

@russcattell955i

10 ай бұрын

@@allareasindex7984 Yes correct. The safari (wagon) used by film & tv crew on the roof. There is a vid somewhere comparing the set up to a regular car, footage from the regular car was deemed un watchable.

@ToomasTelling

10 ай бұрын

@@russcattell955i Top Gear did a test with a BMW wagon and the DS Safari wagon

So glad you're still committed to this car, I guarantee it'll be one of your favourites when it's all up together.

@danr1920

10 ай бұрын

For now, it will be gone in a year. :(

@mareks26

10 ай бұрын

@@danr1920 It will be gone in next 2 videos :D

@pawsnpistons

10 ай бұрын

​@@mareks26I would bet on it.

@jeffrobodine8579

10 ай бұрын

@@danr1920 Maybe it could become yours. :)

@cliffdavis5244

10 ай бұрын

@@mareks26 I bet not!

Utterly superb car. The height adjustable suspension means that you have kind of got a vehicle with both SUV Autobahn and rally car credentials. Indeed back in 1972 this car won the World cup rally that crossed Europe Africa the Sahara even the Targa Florio. And finished in Germany. The Citreon not only just won beating a Stella list of competitors it slaughtered them with a brilliant crew and extreme reliability. It's a great story. Great effort Wizard.

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

The Citroen DS 21driven by Henri Toivonen won the Monte Carlo rally but only because the Mini Coopers were disqualified.

@oldrrocr

10 ай бұрын

should put a whoopie cushion on it so that when you lower it...🤣🤣🤣🤣

I attended the 50 anniversary of Citroen DS back in 2005, and that was great fun. I used to be a member of a Citroen DS club, and I know the history and pros and cons of the Citroen DS quite well. I also know a French Citroen specialist who knows the original Citroen DS inside out, but he speaks very little English. Financial problems stopped the Citroen DS from getting the engine it was supposed to have and deserved: a naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine. Some people changed the engine in the Citroen DS for the engine used in the Citroen CX GT version. A lot of work, but you can do it. Rust is the big enemy of most Citroen DS`s , so they are prime candidates for a complete restoration, and a German company used to do that. Two of the spheres in the Citroen DS are harder to reach than the others, but you can change their location to a degree so you can later reach them with less work. Note that the bottom chassis of the Citroen DS is known to have a specific weakness that will crack with time, but you can bolt a piece of metall to strengthen that part/spot so it will not crack. Once you have a Citroen DS back to its original ride quality you can truly appreciate its " magic carpet ride." I love the look of Citroen DS, and if you theoretically produced it again I would keep the keep its outer design 99,99% as it is, and then with a new engine and the same hydropneumatic suspension. With some tweaks it is not hard to service said a mechanic, just different. The single spoke steering wheel`s natural position is to have the spoke facing straight down in the middle. The Citroen DS was designed so the engine would be dragged down under the car in the event of crash to protect the passengers. The PSA group bought Citroen back in 1974, and I wish it had been Renault instead because the PSA group never fully appreciated Citroen, and nor did they act to make Citroen France` answer to Mercedes in terms of quality which Citroen could easily have become with proper management. The history of the Citroen DS is very interesting, but I will end my rant here!😃

These DS videos never get old. What a unique ride. Thank you for saving it!

@andoletube

10 ай бұрын

In what sense is he "saving it"? Plenty of people would have bought this car and driven it. It's in generally excellent condition with typical items required to be replaced and serviced. He didn't save it from being junked.

The button closest to the right of the speedometer is to check if you're main hydraulic warning light is working which you're ds does. You also have a crown wheel and pinion grind in your manual transmission it's nothing to worry about I have driven many ds with the same issue just replace the gear oil and put a quality additive as well. Finally you have a absolutely beautiful ds hold on to her they are bringing good dollars ( FINALLY) for a good example just like yours and only going up on price! ENJOY ! CHEERS FROM DOWN UNDER AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺

Dont drive it off road on the high suspension setting! This setting is just for service work . Not for any road driving.. great to see you do another video on it

The ds23 Pallas is maybe one of my favorite looking classic cars. They definitely are not performance but all style. I'm stoked that the car wizard is keeping this iconic car.

Such a unique and fun car. So quirky and odd. I wouldn't want to do the upkeep on one, but seeing this one come back to life on your channel is pretty cool. Take care guys.

@richardelliott8352

10 ай бұрын

speaking of upkeep, he won't be laughing when he goes in to replace that front universal joint and discovers the securing nut is on with the specified 10,000 lbs of torque. Most Citroen garages kept the needed big long long loosening wrench stored hanging on the side wall, as kind of a badge of credibility. If you didn't have one of those unique spanners, you weren't a real Citroen mechanic.

@roberttaylor7462

10 ай бұрын

Can no one describe a Citroen without saying 'quirky'!

@russelladams6432

10 ай бұрын

@@roberttaylor7462 lol

Back when we were living in Europe we drove several and were always shocked at how smooth they were. This was in 1970-71 so they were new or almost new and all of them had an odd smell, but would do 100 mph on the autobahn if you had the time. They were one odd duck for sure.

I've been watching these Citroen videos with great interest. Back in 1971, my Dad bought a Citroen DS21 Pallas - the luxury model. He traded in his Oldsmobile 98 for it, after the Cit dealer took him across a cornfield at 40 mph! We lived in a small town in rural PA, so you can imagine how strange a Citroen was there! BTW, if you think "4 on the tree" is strange, look up "Citromatic" - it's a semi-automatic transmission where the hydraulic system works the clutch engagement for you when you shift! Dad's got rusty and sat, garaged, for at least 25 years. My niece inherited it, and after a 3+ year restoration process, it's almost back to its original glory! Enjoy the Cit. Over 65 years since it was introduced, and it's STILL one of the most advanced cars ever built.

11:05 It's correctly positioned as it is. It's actually designed to "guide" the driver's body towards the interior of the car in a crash.

@martitapere6938

10 ай бұрын

I guess in depends on the state of your local roads. Here in Scotland the roads are poor, but my cars never bottomed out on the low setting.

@theclearsounds3911

10 ай бұрын

The steering wheel looks right to me. There is a cam, spring, and roller on the steering column close to the steering rack that you will see when you take out the steering rack. That cam gives the steering a centering feel, and it can help you verify that the steering wheel is in the right place.

@aaaabababa

10 ай бұрын

@@martitapere6938 that comment before yours was about the steering wheel, but yours appear to be about the suspension? if it is, then you never actually had a Citroen with hydropneumatic suspension, on the Low settign it is literally bottomed out on the bump stops.

@richardelliott8352

10 ай бұрын

@@martitapere6938 I would want to add that the car on the lowest setting is dangerous to drive, because the hydraulic system is no longer being pressurized. You can brake for a while with the residual pressure in the system, but all of a sudden , no brakes. The two extreme setting are for changing tires, all the way up to position the jack, all the way down to settle the car in the jacked , tire up position, On my car the rim was designed so that it interfaced with an expanding hub, so that the wheel could be easily removed with just one bolt and the hex wrench tool they provided. These cars were designed before steel belted tires, so changing tires was more common back then. I did use the highest setting to screw around and cross a few deep rain puddles for fun. The spare tire was stored in front of the radiator, as an additional safety device, but it wasn't real popular when the location cooked your spare.

@richardelliott8352

10 ай бұрын

the steering wheel is also designed so that the rim will snap off the single spoke in case of a bad accident.

A not-rusty DS is a rare thing. Kudos to you for bringing this goddess back to life, so people can know that things can be different and still ok. Put another way: “Vive la difference”

@uzivatel56

10 ай бұрын

It's a hipster car and that's OK.

@jfrancobelge

2 ай бұрын

You rightly called it goddess. In French DS is pronounced the same as "déesse" which is the French word for "goddess". And that's what it was, a godly car from the old days when automobiles still had style and elegance. Unlike in this modern world of ugly automobile clones in which buying a new car has become as exciting as replacing your old fridge.

Congrats! I had a '64 DS 19 and a 1967 ID 19 Citroen from 1970- 73, while in high school and college. The '67 was single headlight, medium blue paint, just like yours. My brother still has his 1970 Citroen, which he had totally rebiult last year, in Maryland. One year I drove in it and also in a rented Lincoln town car, side by side. Although the Lincoln was a very comfortable car, my brother's Citroen rode many times softer, and the big Leather seats are the most comfortable place to be on this high gravity planet. You feel weightless siting in them. Thanks Brother M. for keeping the faith, as I drive a reliable Toyota Corolla that rides as soft as a cement truck as I can't afford parts on my social security income.

The suspension was so smooth on the DS that the BBC Television company used these trackside to live broadcast horse racing . And that was back in the days of black and white television. a roof rack witb a massive television camera on a heavy tripod and operator in a standing position would pace the horses around the course The images were smooth enough to be broadcast live and tha was all before computers and image stabilisation. It truly is an amazing car!

The button is simply a “press to test” button for the light. Just to make sure the bulb is not burned out. There is no level sensor in the hydraulic tank, so pressing it just lights up the bulb. Later years of DS had the same thing.

@MoGreazy

10 ай бұрын

My ‘69 VW Beetle had the same function. The NHTSA-mandated brake warning light was both a light and a spring-loaded button… which one pressed to verify that the warning light was working… This way, you could be sure that, after you wrapped the car around a tree following a brake failure, the light would come on.🤨

@meandmycar958

10 ай бұрын

As the Citroeniste says, the button is just to see if the lights are funkionne.

@georgebettiol8338

10 ай бұрын

@@MoGreazy Hopefully the brake light would illuminate before the tree had moved itself in to your pathway.

@MoGreazy

10 ай бұрын

@@georgebettiol8338 Hopefully is the word! … with a clapped-out Beetle half-eaten by Michigan Metal Moss!

@640kareenough6

10 ай бұрын

Pretty much every citroen had that light, my BX has it too and is a late 80s car

It does not surprise me that you own a DS....You are one of the most respected mechanic KZreadrs....My favourite car is the '74 DS Pallas (apart from my LS400)...one day I will own one. It's not strange...it's just French!!! Congratulations to you Wizard. Cheers from Sunny Australia.

The spoke in the wheel is in the right place . That is a safety feature .

When I was in the military I was stationed in Belgium. My buddy had that exact model Citroen car. That car had the best ride of any car I've ridden in before and after that time. Beautiful job on getting it back in such great working condition. It was the same color as your car as well.

Blue balls. A new comedian in the house.

@MrNordpole

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, because they are green 😉

@surajpersad9656

10 ай бұрын

Green balls

@matthiaskorfhage2811

10 ай бұрын

Original with cornering Headlight. Think they we're Not allowed in the US ( Sealed beam) .☹️

@elitesniper923

10 ай бұрын

All his new balls to extend his rods.

@oldrrocr

10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Yes, actually green! My Bentley has the same system... we saved a few bucks by using the Citroën spheres (they're the same). But once fixed, what a heavenly ride.

DS steering racks are unfortunately a complicated affair, not to replace, but to find the right one. You NEED to get one that's not only refurbished (seals wize), but where the hydraulic pistons were replaced/rectified. Otherwise the same problem will emerge again in a year. Better ask the seller before buying

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

It has an unusual steering rack indeed but it works fine and there are seldom problems.

@SuperLifemission

10 ай бұрын

Only one firm renew the steering racks correctly. Citrotech in the netherlands

@lillexus5589

10 ай бұрын

@@SuperLifemission there is a single guy in Poland (very passionate mechanic, has been working on this vehicles for 30+ years and stockpiles parts) that can do it aswell, the man doesn't have a website or channel though.

@timbo19751975

10 ай бұрын

Citrotech, as mentioned.

@citroenfan8930

10 ай бұрын

In reality not all that complicated:) With a couple of specialized tools - which one can fabricate without to much trouble - are not all that hard to reseal. As to what Citrotech does, and they tend to make it sound difficult, is renewing the two control pistons in the rotating union. And if one does not have a centerless grinder, which most well equipped machine shops have, those little pistons cannot be made with the required precision.

So nice to see your all still enjoying the cars and the sucess you have from your channel etc, so happy for you all 😊

Spent a lot of my childhood in hydraulic Citröens; my grandfather invited André Citröen to build them in Slough, UK. Still as intrigued by them now as ever :)

You need to get some euro-spec headlights... Those sealed beams are awful.

@houseofno

10 ай бұрын

Euro-spec headlights would not be legal in USA, although such an old car may be exempt from US safety inspections.

@sonnylatchstring

10 ай бұрын

@@houseofno sealed beam is no longer required

@wallacegrommet9343

10 ай бұрын

Every fool is running Amazon led bulbs that throw light everywhere except down the road

@robertwright5487

9 ай бұрын

They would be legal now that sealed beams aren't a thing anymore.

@garyblair3033

8 ай бұрын

​@wallacegrommet9343 Most of the headlight offenders are because the lights are not aimed properly. So many pickups are raised and have not had their head lights realigned. Or they are hauling a load. The LED are brighter than Halogen like the Halogen's are compared to the old incandescent lights. The glare from Halogen bulbs bother me more than LEDS.

Such a cool, quirky classic car! Keeping something like this is truly a labor of love. I can't wait to see a vid of you and the Mrs. showing it off at a car show. You'll get a lot of attention and questions, for sure.

I had a big job with the hydraulic system. The small tubular seals are not cheap and there are lots of them. The original lines are 4.5mm but I replaced them with 3/16" lines and drilled the nuts out to 5mm. I had to make a special tool to crimp the ends of the lines but that saved hundreds of dollars.

@citroenfan8930

6 ай бұрын

Those end seals are easy to make using readily availabe tubing from suppliers such as McMaster-Carr. They will be just a wee bit bigger in OD than original, but lubricaing and instering them first and then the pipe you will have no problems. A lot of us have been doing that for eons.

awesome as always.thanks for sharing and taking us along

You and Rob Murdoch should get together and document the engineering in this car. You'll be doing the automotive world a sterling service if you do. Your combined expertise, having been "hands on" with repairing it, will be *invaluable* in the future.

The heights on the suspension are low (maintenance only), normal, high (low speed) & high (maintenance only). The button operates a test lamp to make sure your hydraulic failure light is working & the spoke for the wheel is supposed to be off centre as it represents half a chevron (from the logo). There was a D super 5 available which has a manual box with five on the tree whereas an early DS has a semi automatic box so your one's more in line with a basic ID

Old Citroëns give the American land yachts a proper beating on the comfort front. The old self leveling Xantia did 0.94G on a skidpan in the 1990's! It beat all sorts of supercars with it's amazing chassis. Such a shame modern Citroëns have conventional shocks and springs nowadays.

@LogitechXibanga

10 ай бұрын

you finally realized that americanscant make cars, bravo!

@jesuschrist2284

10 ай бұрын

Do you do a lot of miles on skid pans?

@sjefhendrickx2257

10 ай бұрын

@@jesuschrist2284 normal people do kilometers….

@MrManBuzz

10 ай бұрын

​@@jesuschrist2284It feels like you're being deliberately obtuse. Their point was Citroëns suspension was incredibly comfortable while also having very impressive handling dynamics.

@jesuschrist2284

10 ай бұрын

@@sjefhendrickx2257 oui

These cars are so cool. Thanks for taking the effort to preserve it for future enjoyment!

1969 and still looks modern nice to see one of these in the USA in good condition

I really appreciate you taking this one on. These cars are so innovative. I had a Canadian relative who owned one of these "back in the day", and I loved it!! Looking forward to the next video on this one.

@smesui1799

10 ай бұрын

Back then there was a thing called THINKING in engineering. Now it's lazy computers.

You need to do more "road trip" videos it is very refreshing to the channel!

@terrellshort824

10 ай бұрын

I agree.

I remember the first time I worked on one of these in the early 70s; it was a semi-automatic, and to start it you moved the gear lever all the way up! Only took me 35 minutes to work it out!!

@shiftfocus1

10 ай бұрын

First time I drove a Toyota hybrid was similar for me. 15 minutes in the Avis lot. “Oh, I have to press the brake AND push the power button?”

Seeing that car brings back a lot of memories my mother drove one in 1959. I remember her starting it up and waiting for it to rise. It had a smooth ride and no drive shaft hump. Grade school was a little tough my friends thought it was the ugliest car they had ever seen. My father bought it I Boston, MA where they had a good dealer. We moved to Hamden, CT in 1961 where there were no dealerships or qualified mechanics so when the clutch burned out in 1970 my father sold it to a scrap yard and purchased a used 1962 Chevy Impala convertible. Made a big difference in my social circles. I enjoyed this series. Thank You, Ric

Well done wizard, she is coming along nicely! I noticed you have the fuel filter on the suction line and not on the pressure side of the pump. My DS had the same and was causing percolating problems when hot. Also my carby was misbehaving in the same manner. Turned out to be a lead ball missing in a cavity sucking in false air. Keep up the good work :)

There really is nothing else like an old Citroen, you can tell how smooth it is just from the camera shots from inside the car!

@Hipas_Account

10 ай бұрын

That's something that could easily be missed, but such a good point. Pretty sure the BBC used a Citroen CX as their Camera Rig Car for the same reason, feel free to correct me on that.

@Qyngali

10 ай бұрын

@@Hipas_Account they were almost exclusively used on horse race tracks where the follow track on the outside were mostly dirt roads. Other cars were impossible to film with because they were shaking like crazy, but the Citros were as smooth as silk.

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

Are you saying that Mrs. Wizzard should start filming hoarses ?

You got capot (kahpoh) right! And yes, the spoke is in its intended position. The reasoning behind that was that it placed the most rigid part of the steering wheel where the driver's ribcage was least likely to hit the rim in a crash.

Good to see another one back up and running. Interestingly most all of the so-called 'innovations' of modern cars can be traced back to something Citroen did with the D models some 60+ years ago. And some things have never been duplicated. A few comments about the video. 1) Suspension Units - LHM cars have green colored units and fluid should be mineral based - LHS fluid cars are black and fluid was colored red and glycol based, System components are not interchangeable unless all hydraulic system seals are switched out. Front suspension spheres on both Sedans and Station Wagons can have a blue ring to designate position. Rear Sedans no mark. SW have can a yellow ring. At this point it is rebuilder's choice to do so. 2) Carb- your's has a 28/36 Weber. It has a power piston. Most likely cause of hesitation is engine advance being retarded, like a lot of politicians, but not the carb set up. Improper carb setting (or units that need rebuilding) typically manifest themselves as poor gas mileage, back firing, inability to set idle speed correctly. 3) Distributor - if stock, ie mechanical, suggest you invest in a 123 electronic unit. Hassle free and far more stable. 4) Leak - look in area above where leak is on the ground. Suspension components have nylon leakage return lines attached to the rubber bellows or boots. If damage, ie cracked or split, will allow leakage to hit the ground. The steering rack does not have return lines. Check underside of the of both the rubber bellows for wetness. Check the underside of the rotating union (the component that the steering column is bolted to) for wetness. Check the connection unions for the hp tubing - being too tight or not sufficiently tight well cause seepage. They should be snug and still allow for side to side movement of the incoming line. If the leak is in-line with the fire wall and underneath the frame member on the driver side suspect the Height Control unit. This info should get you going. 5) If in-line with the front wheels a somewhat in the middle look for a leaking HP pump. Typically leakage will be behind the drive belt pulley.

10:40 In England, this car was used to film horse races, as its suspension offered a smoother ride than modern cars, which allowed for a better experience by the watchers at home, allowing them to identify horse, rider, etc... This was quite remarkable, after all those years after its market debut. Only the more modern Citroen C6 came close to this - but it fell short, nevertheless.

@pauldavies6037

10 ай бұрын

Yes the BBC had the camera man and a tripod on the roof live footage

@johnburns4017

10 ай бұрын

@@pauldavies6037 On an estate version.

@pauldavies6037

10 ай бұрын

@@johnburns4017 Yes the CX safari model I think

@johnburns4017

10 ай бұрын

@@pauldavies6037 The roof was reinforced with the tripod bolted to the roof. It was in the BBC motor pool, brought out for many events. The car and camera would keep up with the horses on the road paralleling the horse track. The road at the Grand National at Liverpool I 'think' was used for the British Grand Prix and European Grand Prix, so easier there.

@pauldavies6037

10 ай бұрын

@@johnburns4017 yes mainly used at the horse racing events

The steering wheel is in the correct position. Between 7 and 8 o' clock when driving straight ahead.

@LogitechXibanga

10 ай бұрын

should you change the position if you drive it during the afternoon? 🤣

@bartlevenson7851

10 ай бұрын

7:40 o'clock to be exact! Seriously!

@LogitechXibanga

10 ай бұрын

@@bartlevenson7851 a few hours later and we would be having a british 5 o'clock tea 🤣

Thanks for doing this series. I'm a big fan of the DS and I'm enjoying it enormously.

My Father had a 1973 DS Super 5 from new in the UK . His had a twin choke carb (dual barrel ) . The brake "pedal" was a rubber button on the floor, if you pushed to hard you would slide forward on the seat causing more pressure on the brake and you would come to a shuddering halt. Took me a while to get used to it. Love the vids.

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

Oh yes, I remember that rubber button. I always got a good laugh when the cops ( who would usually write fines for excessive brake pedal movement ) didn't know what to do.

@citroenfan8930

10 ай бұрын

The 'sliding' can be caused by not using seat/shoulder safety belt 😀

The Timeless design is really amazing. Still looks new- ish!!

I have the funniest feeling he'll finally get it all sorted out and it will unofficially become Mrs Wizard's car.

Nice to see an old classic being returned to working condition. It deserves a second life in caring hands.

oh finally! I was waiting for this episode since you got it. Steering wheel spoke is supposed to be directed to the door.I wish you get the head light covers.

Thank you, Wizard, for the DS Citroen Report! Thanks as well to Rob Murdoch for support and advice. You're a straight shooter, Wiz, and it's one of the best things about both you and this site. Dan in Bangor

Definitely the correct owner for this amazing car. Knowledgeable and patient just what it needs.

A lucky little car to have such a knowledgeable and loving owner.❤

Very ' classy ' Wizard ! Definitely a keeper !

starting to look good --- you will have a great car soon. On the carb front, you need to clean it well and the needles --- the car even when adjusted does not accelerate that fast ever. As for the brakes, they are normal, its all other cars that are wrong. Even the CX had the same as on the DS and once you realise its the pressure you put onto the switch that is key, not movement, they are more responsive than all other forms of brakes.

@Qyngali

10 ай бұрын

I used to own a CX and had a lot of fun letting friends drive it for the fist time. First break, you better have seat belts on. 😂 Likewise with the steering wheel, the powerful return to center would really mess them up. I warned about that though...

@s2000.

10 ай бұрын

I love the brake pedal feel on my xantia. Every time I drive standard cars I have to relearn braking all over.

@chrisquinlan3012

10 ай бұрын

exactly Sir!! ....all other cars are wrong !!

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

Citroën got the brakes right. All other cars are inferior in that department. I own 2 CX. They will out brake anything on the road, absolutly fantastic to drive.

@alexispieltin9379

10 ай бұрын

The "mushroom" brake command was really something special. Later models with high pressure hydraulic breaking assist were also something special you had to "learn": even if the "displacement" course was more important with a more classical pedal, there was no place for a leaded foot. I can also tell the reverse experience can be traumatizing. When you've experienced the "feather" pressure, changing car you suddenly have the bad impression the pedal course is somewhat wrong, and you also have to deal with a more important pressure to get the same result!

As an American overseas, I lived in Paris for several years from 72 through 75. I had a DS 20 I think it was if I remember correctly and to this day it’s been the best most wonderful car I ever owned! I wish they still had it.

I like EVERYTHING about this car. It was a privilege to have ridden in others just like it. Wonderful memories. Yours are the best hands it could have to take care of it.

These are wonderful in their uniqueness! Thanks for exhibiting yours!

Those are ALWAYS the coolest car at the event, any event...just the way it is! Nice ride Wizard!

That motor sounds sweet! No noises that I can hear via my laptop. I like it! I remember actually seeing one in 1969 parked in a motel close to home while on my way there from the community pool in the summer. Wizard, seeing your Frenchie brought back some childhood memories..thank you

This series has been awesome!

The steering wheel spoke is just right, has to be around 7-8 o clock, but i believe the cv boots are out, when they click like that with full end steering, they are about to break the breaker are not about the pedal movement, its just about the amount of foot pressure, no time wasted on useless pedal-traveling.

The DS is without a doubt one of the coolest cars ever built

@dDoOyYoOuUtTuUbBeE

10 ай бұрын

Still can be hot in summer.

You're a brave man Gungadin to own a Citroen of that type and vintage. Scott from Cold War Motors channel owns one, and he's had a lot of problems previously too, but he's got it sorted well now. I think these cars were built by committees of people who refused to cooperate with each other.

Mr Car Wizard. That car is made for you! Never seen a car that suits someone as much as the DS suits you! Enjoy. Ps. Hello from Scotland.

Steering wheel is as it should be. Rest your arm on the door armrest and put your hands around the spoke of the wheel. Very ergonomic. BTW, the brakes are not "assisted", they are hydraulically powered. It´s more like air brakes but a lot better. And the force is dynamically adjusted between front and rear. Kind of "load sensing" but on steroids. And if you wonder, your steering makes the correct sounds. Regarding your steering rack, only let someone REALLY experienced touch it. Restoring a DS rack is only to be done by someone who really knows it. Always remember that this cars worst enemy were mechanics who thought they could, but didn´t. And a big congratulation and welcome to the DS-world. You are now baptized and have earned your LHM-green fingers. Good job on fixing the old goddess. Oh, and the button that lights up the light in the dash is a test button, so you know the bulb is ok. The "STOP-light" is one you should take seriously. If it lights up while driving, you need to stop. With no pressure, you got no brakes. Sounds scary, but as long as you have some suspension left in the rear, you will have rear brakes (rear suspension is pressure source for the rear brakes).

Quite possibly the coolest car you've ever shown on your channel!

@jafo766

10 ай бұрын

Said no one else ever !

@garysheppard4028

10 ай бұрын

@@jafo766 Quite possibly the coolest car you've ever shown on your channel!

@jafo766

10 ай бұрын

@@garysheppard4028 And this is how Biden got in , folks that will cut off their nose to $pite their face...OK BUD !

@markstott6091

10 ай бұрын

Quite possibly the coolest car you've ever shown on your channel!

@jafo766

10 ай бұрын

@@markstott6091 OUI , it's why the internet is full of them ? and the price of them $peaks volumes...? coolest ever eh...NOT

It’s a stunning vehicle and engineering genius when you think of the year it was built.

It have me a huge grin to watch it go up and down.

Woohoo🎉 Congrats, Car Wizard! Enjoy the fruits of your labour:)

Man So Rad! Looking in the cabin with you wizard is like being transported to back when those cars where new😊

we say, here in Italy... the only time or place to buy a French car is when one is living in France. Now you need a 2CV. Great video

I am in the process of rebuilding my DS steering rack. It’s not that difficult but you will need special tools to do it (which I was able to borrow). There are several guys in the US that will rebuild this rack for you if you decide to go that route. Or your parts supplier might be able to provide you with a refurbished rack to swap out. Good luck. Your vids are great!

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

You will find steering racks in France and Belgium.

@manfredschmalbach9023

10 ай бұрын

Buying a refurbished one and giving up Your original steering ain't recommendable. You gotta be sure to get a quality part - not everybody offering refurbishing jobs does know what they're doing, regrettably.

@Citroeniste

10 ай бұрын

@@manfredschmalbach9023 yes there are some poor quality refurbished ones out there. Have to stick with one of the reputable vendors for sure!

@manfredschmalbach9023

10 ай бұрын

@@Citroeniste Yup, the "reputable vendor" thing is essential with Citroën hydraulic parts which are unlike most other "normal" hydraulic parts not needing "the green soup" .....

@alro2434

7 ай бұрын

Replacing just the RH side leaking hyd. piston end piece or the valves?

Take the carb off and squirt some non-flammable CRC BrakKleen through all the ports. Just line up the red plastic tube to all the tiny holes and blast away. This will do an amazing job of cleaning the carb without taking the whole thing apart/rebuilding. Takes about 15 minutes.

Good to see the Citreon DS to a point you can drive it apreciate its smooth ride

Another one here whose family had a Citroen GS in the UK in the 70s. Citroen and Renault sold a lot of cars as they were seen as chic and different. Also front roof antennas were very, very common in some European cars so as to not clutter the shape with an antenna on the wings etc

@car wizard @8:52 the push button was an optional button most DS has only 3 buttons (parking light, interior light and air fan). The one under the clock is supposed to be the test button for the hydraulic pressure/brake pad wear warning light (to know if the light bulb is working or not). The steering wheel is in normal position with the central part at 7.5 o'clock position.

@janwestra8255

10 ай бұрын

My father in law ignored the hydraulics light on his GS, equipped with the same system. He rear ended another car due to brake failure.

@alro2434

7 ай бұрын

@@janwestra8255 Musta been hard to ignore the lack of suspension & steering & maybe shifting until the brake accumulator was drained!

In the late 70'S in England, my parents had a Citroen GS and thanks to that braking system it helped me pass my driving test! I know exactly what you mean! 😂😂😉👍

@sw33pdog

10 ай бұрын

I had a brown GS Pallas I even remember the reg no MOU60R great car and it's suspension party tricks

@colinprice712

10 ай бұрын

The GS breaking system was phenomenal- front discs powered by full hydraulic pressure, rear discs fed from the rear suspension (adjust pressure to match the load). You could lock all 4 wheels - as I found out on a snowy road - but still kept a straight line!.

@nigeldewallens1115

10 ай бұрын

@@sw33pdog I loved it for that too 😂🙂

I was going to make negative comments about this car, and I have before but I think it's so old, so interesting, so out of the ordinary, that it deserves to be remembered and kept in running condition, it's very innovative and ahead of it's time and there can't be many of them left that still run

The steering spoke is in the right place. That was suppose to protect you in a crash by pushing you to the center. Good memories, my uncle had one in Spain when they were new a 1961 model. I remember how unique it was and the smooth ride. I think it was the most advance car of its time. Great video and thank you for rescuing it.

I'm pretty sure the button with the pedal is just to test the break failure light, so you can check at all times that the break failure light itself actually works. It's a safety thing. My '92 Mini Cooper has the same system. Greets from Belgium. PS: 'Capeau' is the right word and you pronounce it right! Try 'portière' (door) next time just for show 🙂

@citroenfan8930

10 ай бұрын

All D's and SM's (unless a D with the BVH system) only have two 'pedals'. The accelerator and the clutch. There is no 'brake' pedal. The button - typically referred to as "le champignon" - or the mushroom is the brake control unit. As he mention one controls braking force in D's/SM's by pressure on that control - not travel. It does have a feedback circuit that pushes back as you press down harder to give a bit of brake feel. Takes a bit to get use to, but once you do, all other systems feel outdated by contrast.

@omarjette3859

10 ай бұрын

Actually, It is "capot" pronounced "cap-o" the "t" is silent.

@omarjette3859

10 ай бұрын

@@citroenfan8930 Would you please explain what BVH means to you. Google says "Boite Vitesse Hydraulique" or, "Belgian Vehicle Heritage". As i alluded to below, my '66 DSM21 had a short throw, short travel pedal (which which had the same effect as the "mushroom") However, the clutch pedal was just horrible, and apparently copied from the 1930's Traction Avant. It had a cleaner version of the '55 front styling (single headlights) and the 5-bearing 2.1 L engine with leaky valve stem seals (burning oil). As far as I know these cars did not have a left-foot rest (aka dead pedal) and the seats on later models were made more supportive, like a Volvo. As Jay Leno says, the engine gets noisy above 60 mph, so he added sound deadening. On my last '68 DS19 Pallas, I installed an aftermarket electronic ignition module, which greatly improved low-end performance,. Imagine what a modern 2.0 L engine could do. Even my 1.8 L Dodge makes 148 HP. Seats are pretty good, and has a "dead pedal".

@citroenfan8930

10 ай бұрын

@@omarjette3859 Your 66 DS21 M - the 'm' designating manual shift - had a clutch pedal. It had the 'mushroom, brake control. The only D's ever made with a standard 'master cylinder' and brake pedal were the base model of the ID 19 Sedans up to and including the 62 model year and they had non power assisted steering ie manual as well. Though the 'mushroom' brake button was on all models - it operated a simplified control unit on the ID 19 cars (SW excepted). BVH - translates to 'Hydraulic Gearbox' and simply means hydraulic system control for gear change and clutch control. BVH equipped cars only have one 'pedal' the accelerator. Some say it means semi-automatic transmission. The transmission's internals are the same for both BVH units and manual ones. The difference is in the how the shift rods/yokes in the top cover are operated. In your DS12M you did so manually with the gear shift lever. On BVH cars it was done via hydraulic pistons controlled by various hydraulic units. A hydraulic piston replaced the clutch pedal.

@omarjette3859

10 ай бұрын

@@citroenfan8930 Well, no one was more surprised than I, that MY DS21-M did NOT come with a "mushroom" brake control, but did have power steering. IDK how many of these were made that way or in what countries they were sold. I'm Canadian & this was before the days of digital cameras & phones, so no photo. To me, it looked like the pedal pushed against the balance beam, just the same as the mushroom does. (I posted the drawing of the classic "mushroom" assembly on my facebook page, if anyone cares to look.) The pedal arrangement was pretty weird and I only kept the car about a year & then traded in for the "classic" DS19, with 1985 cc engine & hydraulic everything. My ID 19's had the old 1911 cc engine, no power assists, except that if the the brake master cylinder was somehow lacking, it would open a line that fed pressure in from the DS type suspension. And, i know about the gearbox on the DS21-M. It had the same cover as the BVH, but instead of hydraulic actuated pistons, there were compression springs which were supposed to move the forks back when changing gears, unless something jammed, and you'd be screwed, glued & tattooed. The clearances were just too tight at low outside temperatures. Simple cure was to just loosen up the fit. As for the clutch, don't recall, but I bet that the slave cylinder on the "Citromatique" DS19 was outside the bell housing, unlike the modern concentric abomination on my '09 Dodge.

Citroens are cool. My neighbor has an SM and a DS and raves about them both! Great video!

@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261

10 ай бұрын

Yes.Wizard needs and SM next.

@Flies2FLL

10 ай бұрын

@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261My spouse is from Belgium and had a Citroen Xantia in Brussels and I used to drive it from time to time. You can fly down a TERRIBLE paver road, totally rough, and it felt like you were on new asphalt! That suspension is a WINNER. And he is completely correct about the brakes; You don't push the pedal down, you put pressure on it.

Congratulations, love the car. Well done Wizard.

Let me tell you a few stories... (over the years, I have owned 11 DS's and Safaris). First off, the name DS in French is déesse, literally "goddess" (I currently have a '71 Citroën SM, which the French call "Sa Majestée"... Her Majesty, which is very apt!). My first was a 1958 DS19 which had belonged to the French government, and had the following amazing features, all but one of which were standard. The wheels had only one nut in the centre (sorry for the spelling, but I am English...) like a giant hex screw, and had a special tool like a long bar that you used to undo the nut, wheel it away, lift out the spare, wheel it into place and tighten it up. No need to even touch the tyre... sorry, another English spelling and get your hands dirty! It also had indicators on the front wings (perspex light tubes) so you could tell if any light bulbs were not working. Loved those disappearing windscreen wipers! The roof could be taken off with (I think?) six bolts, and of course, all the wings could be taken off with one bolt each. Very reliable and easy to work on... and those comfortable seats! If you did any hydraulic work, for instance on the brakes, there was a 'self' bleed 'nut'... turn for 10 seconds, then turn it back... how brilliant! An advance/retard lever, so, on a motorway you could pull it back and get nearly 40mpg together with a manual throttle for “cruise control”... The worst job was replacing the furthest back spark plug, as this was inside the dashboard...??? My favourites (sorry... another Englishism...) were the Safari and Familiale estate versions... incredible load carriers, especially with that self levelling suspension, built in roof racks, extra seats that unfolded out of the trunk door, and how cool is this...? As standard, the lower trunk door came with two numberplate, both lit, so if you had to drive withe 'tailgate' down, you were still legal! I think in the late 60's, I was taking a fridge freezer from England to southern Italy midwinter and thought I heard a noise from the back doing about 70mph on the Autostrada. It wasn't until a pulled in about an hour later to fill up with petrol (aargh... I mean gas!), that I realised that I had had a puncture, and had not even noticed! On the return trip, I was running low as I crossed Belgium, but had no Belgian Francs (they were different in those days), so I hoped we could limp through (thru?) to France. Unfortunately, we sputtered to a halt in France by the side of the road. I could see a village across the fields, so I grabbed my empty jerrycan and headed there. There was only a butcher, so I went in and asked if there was "de l'essence' available nearby. He shook his head at the 'Anglais'. But I blurted out "but I have a Goddess"... He tapped his nose, weighed the empty can, then we went outside and syphoned (siphoned?) 'de l'essence' from his DS, and then weighed the can on his butchers scales, did a rough calculation as to cost and we shook hands. I did have a total hydraulic failure once, but was able to drive (very carefully... I had no other option) for a further nearly 100 miles before the brakes finally gave out just as I reached my destination. Interestingly, since the handbrake operates the front brakes (due to the wheelbase changing length with the suspension rising or lowering), doing a handbrake turn is not an easy option. I was at a party and talking to one of my favourite (sorry again) mystery authors (Gavin Lyall... terrific stories...) who had just written a book "Midnight Plus One", where the hero, driving a DS, not only did a handbrake turn, but, having been shot at, his hydraulics died and he had to abandon the car. I pointed out that I had driven nearly 100 miles like that. No... it was not comfortable... I felt EVERY bump! Most of mine were LHD, as they were far cheaper here in the UK, which is RHD, and I was not very rich... One day I was the cause of a major accident. At the time, my dog used to love sitting in the passenger seat (which would normally be the driver's seat here), head held high and swaying with the corners as he took in the view. The car following me thought that a dog was driving and was so flabbergasted that he swerved into two other vehicles. He tried to sue me... and lost! I had a friend who was the stunt driver for a commercial here in the UK (I think it was for the GS rather than the DS?)... shot for real... no CGI back then! He races towards a cliff edge but has to go between two lorries heading toward him. As he goes between (with aches to spare), one of his tyres (tires) is blown off.

The Citroen is a great car!! They were very far ahead of their time. Keep after it.

Definitely a car worth saving.

My Brother Keith, back in the 70's used to take these DS engines and gearbox out of these cars and put them in a Citre'o'n Light 15 body ...man could they fly 110 mph + ..... had some funny looks going skiing at Whakapapa /Chateau over taking people on the highway they couldn't even catch up hahaaaa. Used to help sort out the gearbox linkages etc as a young lad good like that cheers Keith!

My dad bought a used 68 ? sedan after several months, he traded it in for a new ds 21 station wagon. We lived in Az at the time and he did take it off road (a lot (every week end of 3 years)). It was a great car service, and parts were an issue. Over the years, I have thought about getting one to restore. But time / money have never come together at the same time. I enjoy you showing a lot and the DS has brought back many memories. Thank you

- The fromt callipers are dead easy to repair. After cleaning them up, there are only 4 seals to replace. Square section if I recall. The trick is getting the correct part as it must be compatible with the LHM fluid. - That push button might be the test button for the warning lights cluster. The DS I worked on for a friend was from 1972 and had the warning lights all in a round circle with the big red STOP in the center (as on an series 1 CX and an SM). - A word of warning to Mr. Wizzard ! Driving speed can be very deceiving. What feels like 50kph, is actually 80 to 90kph. The gas suspension and suspension geometry feels like you're not going as fast as you really are. Having hardly any wind noise or any road rumble through the carpets only adds to the feeling of sitting on a sofa at home. - The single spoke steering wheel, as some have stated, is positioned correctly at the 7 O"clock. It's a safety feature to deflect the driver to the center in the event of a front end collision.

@alro2434

7 ай бұрын

Seal's round section. Chrome plated piston damaged one & leaked so we removed the caliper till new stuff arrived. Stopped well with zero pull on one caliper and was only noticeable with really hard braking. I don't think that the old driver was ever fully told/explained to, only to come back when caliper was fixed!

Such an unique car, congrats!

@anthonyslazas6413

10 ай бұрын

Just like Wizard 😊

@trespire

10 ай бұрын

They only sold 13,000,000 of them !

I’ll go ahead and say how much I admire your skills.

Mrs Wizard will love this Citroën DS

The self-centering of the steering is interesting too. I had two DS cars back in the 1980s and the engines were the weak point. They were like something out of a tractor and for a 2 litre motor the fuel consumption was poor. The brakes were amazing as was the suspension. Happy days. Rare cars here in the UK nowadays as tin worm accounted for most of them!

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

The CX had self centering but not the DS.

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

The 2 litre engine in the CX was a Renault engine which lacked power. Citroen had made some bad investments and did not have enough capital to make the engine that would have given a CX decent performance. Instead they had to bore out the 20 year old pushrod engine to 2500cc and fuel inject it.

@cme2cau

10 ай бұрын

@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 Not quite. Both the CX and DS had zero offset steering, effectively zero caster on the front wheels. So, neither car would have the steering self centre by roadwheel action. That also meant bumps would not "tug" at the steering wheel. The DS had a lobe on the steering shaft with a depression at the straight ahead with a sprung roller resting on it The spring would provide self centreing action. Zero offset is what saved Charles De Gaulle, when his driver could drive a DS with one front tyre shot out! The CX , like the SM had DIRAVI (Direction à rappel asservi) steering, where the power steering would centre the wheel. You could park a CX at full lock, take your hands off the wheel, and the steering will return to straight ahead.

@keithmatthews1673

10 ай бұрын

@@ngauruhoezodiac3143 I owned two DSs. If you took your hands off the wheel at 70 on a flat road the steering would wander slightly left, then slightly right, constantly self correcting. That is what I was referring to. It was wierd!

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

10 ай бұрын

@@keithmatthews1673 seems like the wheel alignment needs checking. I had no such problem with my DS.

Yes, the steering is supposed to be centered that way, Citroen researched, that in an accident, that position, along with the seatbelts, would spread the torso evenly over the steering wheel. A recent video on KZread from a farmer that has one, explains it all. It also has powered self centering steering - where if you take your hands off the wheel, it powers back to the centre - even if the car is stationary and on full lock.

@nickhaag7803

10 ай бұрын

Not all had Diravi steering, I don't think this one has. At the end of the video it is parked with the wheels angled.

@adrianmclean9195

10 ай бұрын

@@nickhaag7803 Yes, your right - perhaps it's not on American models, because of US requirements, which caused so many headaches for Citroen.

@nickhaag7803

10 ай бұрын

@@adrianmclean9195 I think Citroen produced the DS with Diravi and also a cheaper version, the ID, without it for all markets. After a while the ID was dropped. Car Wizard's is probably an ID.

@theclearsounds3911

10 ай бұрын

I've driven well over 6 DS's and ID's in the US, and NONE of them had the self-centering steering. The SM does, though.

@nickhaag7803

10 ай бұрын

@@theclearsounds3911 That's interesting. I wonder if it was a decision by Citroen? Presumably there wasn't any legal reason if the SM had it.

I really can understand wizards blinking eyes, the DS is a gem, a high maintainance one, but it uses state-of-the-art-technic you can still UNDERSTAND.

An absolute thing of beauty. A car like no other.

I believe the spoke on the steering wheel is in it's correct position. I remember something that its there for passenger safety so the spoke will not impale you if you have an impact and that is the safest position. I might be wrong.

For some strange reason Honda used this Citroën hydralic fluid in their steering servo in the 00's. Been told it'll start leaking if using anything else.

@citroenfan8930

10 ай бұрын

A mineral fluid - not glycol based as DOT3/4 are. LHM provides much better lub qualities as well as not absorbing water vapor.

An American mechanic who knows how to work on a Citroen, that is just fantastic.

Another smooth job CW!

The button with the pedal on it lights up the brake warning light. This way you know the light works. Also it's not supposed to have a button to start it, someone probably installed it for whatever reason.

@jacobstensgaard6312

10 ай бұрын

The start button is correct factory spec

@MotoMaus

10 ай бұрын

Its indeed a check button, whether the red warning light works. The red light indicates hydraulic pressure loss, which results in loss of brake power, suspension, power steering.......Anti-Citroën people always said; the hydraulic system is weak, if it fails everything fails. Not completely incorrect. A great car. I had 5 of them over the years.

Nice to see you work on your own stuff. Cobbler has no shoes usually.