Rishi Sunak's is 'insane' to blame Liz Truss | Lionel Barber and Flic Everett
“Who is advising the prime minister? This is insanity."
Rishi Sunak is playing a “losing strategy” by blaming his predecessors for his tough time in government, says former editor of the FT Lionel Barber. The PM told William Hague on Times podcast The Story that he’d inherited the “worst hospital pass for any incoming prime minister”. Flick Everett joins to discuss the stories of the day.
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He's not a decent man unless you're already incredibly rich, he is killing people with his negligence and incompetence
@davidmullens2464
Ай бұрын
Exactly. He lost all claims to that with his deliberate choice of 30pLee and now Gullis. Then there's his appalling acceptance of the Rwanda fascistic farce...
@jsd8981
Ай бұрын
So true...
@paulwright9106
Ай бұрын
Agreed ! He is NOT decent . He lies .
@johngorny8306
Ай бұрын
Lionel Barber doesn't seem to thing so, the man is in cloud cuckoo land.
Not once did he blame the Tories for being in power for 14 years and putting the public through that nightmare
@jsd8981
Ай бұрын
Yes they like to conveniently skip the fact that they have been in power for 14 years... 14 years on the gravey train and now they have the audacity to look for another five years, vile dispicabl greedy scrots...
@Holliethedog
Ай бұрын
He didn't mention Brexit, along with Covid and the Ukraine War. Even Brexit supporters can't deny Brexit has hit the economy hard.
@jamiec4000
Ай бұрын
@@Holliethedog I mean, they do deny it, vehemently.
@joecater894
Ай бұрын
Majority of public support the lockdown ; some dont.. majority did and do though. So, it has nothing to do with low tory result.
@joecater894
Ай бұрын
@@Holliethedog Brexit has little to do with the current economic situation. I've seen official economic analysis. The conclusion is that the Brexit effect still hasn't had an effect. Trade deals have ensured that whilst there was some disruption visible in some areas, the broader economy is untouched by Brexit. The majority of the West is currently in recession or slowdown. The issue is the lasting economic disruption from having to lockdown for so long and current events happening in the world.. and longterm UK complacency in sectors that have left UK exposed to them.
*HE IS NOT A DECENT MAN* he is a Tory
The Torys are Toast
“Rishi Sunak is a decent man” - I needed no more than 6 words to determine that this man simply isn’t worth listening to.
@ivanconnolly7332
Ай бұрын
A decent man does not encourage racism and xenophobia ,or impersonate a Prime minister..
He wanted the job, and the MPs (without the membership) wanted him in. They have only themselves to blame.
Blaming everything on Liz Truss (who the public didn't get to vote for), when you also were not voted for by the public is an interesting strategy.
@simonwood1402
Ай бұрын
But you have to admit that it's an exceptionally cunning plan!
@dirtytarquin6383
Ай бұрын
At least the conservative membership got to vote for her. Mr Sunak doesn't even have that.
@user-lv5rs6hc8i
Ай бұрын
He is right.truss made a mess of the economy.johnson disillusioned people,ukraine and covid.all this made it very difficult for him.plus disloyalty from tory members.
@lindamacro5945
Ай бұрын
Have you noticed that Lab/Con's have decided to blame Liz so as to deflect their Furlough, track and trace, lock-downs as Labour shouted for harder longer punishing regimes. Weren't Labour the ones shouting from the rafters for Track and Trace which cost multi-billions and was useless? Have we got short memories?
@venaedirie6314
29 күн бұрын
I remember everyone blaming Liz truss and now people are saying that sunak is to blame who's going to be blamed for the next financial crisis which is coming soon banks are insolvent no loans no deposits and no deals Thames water failed to raise 500 million pounds in a band issue 😊
Sunak has no one else to balme but himself
@cherrygood4061
Ай бұрын
Not enough balm to soothe himself of this one.
@ivanconnolly7332
Ай бұрын
No. one to embalm?.
Coming to the last points the entire reason for privatisation was that they would be able to fund improved infrastructure . Instead they raised prices to fund improved dividends to the shareholders whilst the infrastructure decayed .
@jsd8981
Ай бұрын
Otherwise blatant in your face greed...
@markeh1971
Ай бұрын
Hi, the companies were used as cash cows and loaded with debt to pay share holders. Now they need to put money in they are unwilling to do it. So Regulator, regulate. Force them to do the work or fine them to bankruptcy. At this point re nationalise at zero cost to the tax payer and with lower interest rates and no share holders do the modernisation and capital investment. Do not float it off when it is done but keep it and benefit from it. This has been caused by a light tough regulator not controlling the companies. Take care M.
@anthonygrayson7753
29 күн бұрын
The flaw of privatising services...go look at somewhere like Denmark...road bridges connecting small islands, a major road (and rail) bridge connecting Copenhagen with Malmo, etc., etc! We don't have a motorway linking Newcastle with Edinburgh, and we can't even connect the Isle of Wight with our mainland! I mean, our (lack of) "infrastructure" is just, well, embarrassing!🙈
@evelbsstudio
29 күн бұрын
The privatisation is to give more to there friends like they did with royal mail, buy shares in these companies and line there pockets even more, that's what they do when the 1% is incharge of this country..
Sunak is just spineless, weak, and pathetic, and blaming everybody else. Not fit for the job, so just go.
We need a Government that can govern. Please can we have a General Election NOW.
@khar12d8
29 күн бұрын
No, you can't. You have a general election when the PM decides, like pretty much every general election of the past hundred years.
When Sunak reels off the reasons why its been so tough, covid, war in Ukraine... never Brexit, never ever ever say Brexit. The second he says Brexit has been part of the problem he's toast.
@davidmullens2464
Ай бұрын
It would be good to hear him telling the truth. His inability to accept the disaster does him no credit.
@DS9TREK
Ай бұрын
Brexit hasn't been a problem, unless you include them not delivering it properly.
@davidmullens2464
Ай бұрын
@@DS9TREK wow. So Goldman Sachs (Farage's favourite bank) is wrong when they say it has cost 4 to 8% of GDP. It's been so bad even Forage has said #BrexitHasFailed. And it's nothing to do with the way, it's everything to do with the lies told by Johnson and Farage to miss-sell it.
@charliebryce3783
Ай бұрын
Brexit is an economic shovel the Tories have used to dig their own political grave.
@Mounhas
Ай бұрын
@@DS9TREKHow was it ever deliverable?
He fails to mention the awful 'Oven-unready- Brexit' as part of the problems. And when he says he sees better times ahead, he means "If I can hold on long enough to get an Indian trade deal and those wonderful infosys shares, then my future is going to be fantastic." Let's just have a General Election.
@denisebrown4735
Ай бұрын
Elephant in the room. BREXIT 😅
Weak excuse for a leader
People have long memories of incompetence
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
50 years of long memories, then.....
When he has secured for his father in law all secure intelligence networks , he will head to the USA.
His ship isn't just sinking there's also a fire in the engine room the radio is broken and there's a massive storm on the way and worst of all the Captain is as incompetent and useless as Daffy duck...
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
Don't forget, the rats have already thrown the deckchairs into the water, and have started swimming onto those deckchairs !
@Nick-xf5hr
Ай бұрын
Better a Daffy Duck than a useless incompetent one (should have rhymed with duck but they would remove the comment)
Simply he was overpromoted, lacking the both the necessary experience and ability for the job.
@ivanconnolly7332
Ай бұрын
He is unrelatable.
@hilaryjohnson2386
29 күн бұрын
And humanity.He doesn't seem to be able to get " ordinary members of the public".Totally out of touch.
@joanhughes3620
29 күн бұрын
He has fed the British people to the wolves.
@Nick-xf5hr
26 күн бұрын
Put simply he’s a traitor and should be dealt with. Election now.
They are finished.
@stewartbunting3568
Ай бұрын
This country is finished!
@martinholmes-ue9ko
28 күн бұрын
Hope so.
Sunak is not just to blame, it is the Tories as a whole, irregardless of who is in charge of the Tories things have gotten progressively worse and the only constant is the Tory party.
@DS9TREK
Ай бұрын
Regardless. There's no such word as irregardless
@Thought_Processing_
Ай бұрын
@@DS9TREK read there is, you can look it up, it is just considered more informal. Think of it like flammable and inflammable, they mean the same thing even if you think it shouldn’t.
@user-mj5bl5dy1b
Ай бұрын
Who. Voted for them blame them
@Woodzta
Ай бұрын
"Irregardless" is a word in the same respect that "could care less" is an idiomatic expression. It's another one of these Americanisms where you'll be judged accordingly should you decide to use it. 🙂
@Thought_Processing_
Ай бұрын
@@Woodzta Irregardless I am going to use it. In fact I might use it even more now.
"As a country there have been a lot of challenges" - Yes 14 years of tory government. "I am confident there are better times ahead" - we all are - just get on and call the election
It really is depressing that as a country we have allowed a succession of progressively lower and lower calibre human beings to remain in power, essentially ignoring the mind bending incompetence and stratospheric corruption of the last decade or so!😢
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
Not just the last decade.... Some would say the last 50 years !
@marcustait79
Ай бұрын
T@@richardruff8712 Don’t you think it’s made much worse though because of the way they’ve deployed polarizing populism techniques during the last couple of decades? I can’t help thinking it’s this that has seemingly paralyzed people into thinking there’s nothing can be done to prevent these scumbags from getting into power…..?🤔🤷♂️
Go on holiday? Can't even afford my council tax or turn the heating on.
He doesn’t get it, the public cannot stand him.
When you're worth £500 million good times are always ahead!
@martinholmes-ue9ko
28 күн бұрын
Yep. He doesn't care.
Where is the competence in Sunak? As a self-serving investment banker he presumably did alright but what does that have to do with safeguarding 60 million peoples lives and supporting their needs and ambitions? His competence is in enriching himself.
He wanted the title not the job.
@jsd8981
Ай бұрын
Yep if he was successful that would have been a huge boost to his ego there are other reasons I.e he would be able to make himselfe and his family richer...which reminds me I wonder how his Indian trade deal is going...
@hilaryjohnson2386
28 күн бұрын
Spot on.
Anyone who misdirects anger and frustration towards specific groups in society as cover for their own failures in the job is NOT a decent person. Its vile socially destructive behaviour.
@bardsamok9221
Ай бұрын
So you're saying being frustrated with criminals is "destructive" ? Wait until you get you car stolen or have a break in.
@djohnston6856
Ай бұрын
@@bardsamok9221 it's telling that you needed to apply a different meaning to my words to be able to give any kind of response. Entirely dishonest.
Sick to death of hearing that Sunak is a "...decent man". Where is your evidence. Appalling political appointments, use of helicopters, diverting money from deprived areas to affluent areas etc. He is a good old fashioned self interested tory. From my perspective l see nothing decent about him. He might have good table manners but that does not make him a decent man.
Sunak is full of Bs
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉and all the while no mention of the elephant in the room. The Tories have destroyed this country for the sake of the Tories. Traitors
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
Yes, I am beginning to see the ' T ' word cropping up quite often... I don't mean the Tories, either....
Poor advice from Lionel. Significant section of the electorate cannot afford food and bills, they will not be going on holidays and feeling better about their lot over summer. More likely more resentment they are having to work more, able to afford less and by Oct/Nov translates into more resentment towards the Tories
Zero seats.
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
Would be lovely, wouldn't it ?
@Needlesse
Ай бұрын
Indeed. Clear them out.@@richardruff8712
@dianeglanville
Ай бұрын
yes it would
@hilaryjohnson2386
28 күн бұрын
Nice thought.
@richardruff8712
28 күн бұрын
@@hilaryjohnson2386 What we really need, is for ALL the voters to finally say " NO " to both Tory AND Labour.... On the basis that it is those two parties, that have got our, once proud, Country into this dismal state... Of course, we all know, that a lot of ' die-hards ' will still vote, in the same old manner, for the same old parties... With the same old result..... Just another 5 years of this chaos and stupidity....
Privatising water was ridiculous - as if one can choose one's water supplier......
everyone goes on a holiday....😂😂😂😂😂😂 what lovly life these people lead....
blame yourself sunak People forget that he was at those parties and charged when my lovely mum was dying he can eff off never vote tory again.we wont forget...
To be fair the tories have done pretty well blaming Labour for the past 14 years. Also, how tiny did Sunak look in that clip? Also, he’s not decent or competent, why to people keep saying that?
What? Again?! 🤣🤣🤣 Make Mr.Bean as a prime-minister, for God's sake 😅
The Thames Water discussion in the second half is actually much more important. Privatization gone wrong or privatization this way will always go this wrong?
@martinholmes-ue9ko
28 күн бұрын
Always.
Why do they keep saying he's a decent man? He's a Tory ffs. Also who would have thought selling off the water companies would have gone badly? It's not like every single sector we've done it in has had the exact same outcome...
I remember the end of the thatcher/major govt. And it was a painful clinging to power that was embarrassing. I think had they quit while ahead they wouldn't have been such a bad smell for so long.
They are liars, and Rishi is too scared to even say anything, hes always looking for a bland way out of any situation
"Then everybody goes on a holiday" No. Not everyone. Not for many this year. And that's the point.
I'm do angry about Thames water, bloody shareholders and dividends
The problem is the Tory party is structurally crazy these days. There are no "moderates" at all in the modern party, there is no internal ideological debate or discussion. In my view, organisations begin to fail, when there is only one way of seeing things that is tolerated. They don´t listen to other perspectives and they being to stumble and make errors. The Tory party is at this stage. Of course, it´s fair for a Conservative party to be broadly right wing, but it´s now the case that the only position tolerated is a very right wing one. There´s nobody calling for any form of moderate conservatism in the modern Tory party, there is no discussion or serious debate of ideas, i.e very few Tories are questioning the Rwanda scheme.
@RobBCactive
Ай бұрын
They could not withstand scrutiny, even acknowledging problems was incompatible with the ever rightwards shifting purity tests of the insoluble problem that they themselves created. Popularity required maintaining illusions.
@TrevorHerbert-dj1jl
Ай бұрын
Hello. In my oppinion they 're criminals . ❤❤❤
@GWright1957
Ай бұрын
If you are actually right wing, these Tories are hardly distinguishable from modern Labour. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the incoming Labour government is more right wing in some ways. We’ll see, but I’m afraid things won’t be any better under Labour. They’re all politicians after all, with very little idea of the “real world” outside Westminster.
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
@@GWright1957 Yes... 100% correct... Once they get into that famous invisible object, the ' Westminster bubble '... It is as if the 650 people suddenly become residents of planet ' make-believe '... And certainly not living in the same Country as the rest of us....
Competent, hardwork and descent? Are you sure you've got the right person?
Re Water Companies : "Bad policy. Poor regulation." Some way MUST be found to oblige the water companies, their shareholders, their directors and the hedgefunds who mismanged them by loading them with debt to pay dividends and bonuses to pay to correct damage that they have done. Some way has to be found to make THESE crooks pay for the new investment required and NOT the long suffering , effectivly monopoliy dependent public. It is outrageous for water companies to say " We'll fix it but you will get higher bills to pay for it". WE HAVE paid but YOU greedy swindlers squandered the money. !!! What can the public do with their outrage ? Start a reviolution? Our outrage must be appeased by effective sanctions and fines and payments for cleaning up and increasing capacity imposed on the companies and all who have gained from this scandalous con.trick perpetrated by Tories. A GE would only be the start. Bleating that it has rained a lot in 2023 just will not do as an excuse. Climate change and increasing population are not unpredicted events. They CHOSE to ignore them when they ought to have taken action and invested in greater capacity. "Making hay while the sun shines". is an ironically ambiguous comment of what has been going on with the water companirs.
Just call an election.We cant wait for another 10 bloody months.Just go.
Conservative electoral Oblivion with Luck......
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
Yes, let's hope so....
We have been waiting 14 effing years for things to get better, only people who are in a better position are the rich.
Water should be nationalised end of .
the strategy is to give as much money to our supporters and let the new government deal with the mess .
Tories all thought Truss was great up to and including the loony budget. It was only when the markets all went doo-lally that they began to take in what they’d all done!
@jamesdodger5588
Ай бұрын
And many of them thought she was great AFTER the loony budget (Toriegraph and Daily Fail refer). In fact many STILL think Liz Truss was great. Just read the pathetic attempts to rehabilitate the mad old cow recently.
Shareholders are concerned with dividends and share price. They are concerned with quality of service only so far as to convince customers not to leave for the competition but as water companies are local monopiles, that doesn't apply. They are concerned with debt only so far as interest payments affect dividends now and can sell to suckers if the future looks bad. Private companies only work in the customer's interest if the customer can easily walk away and go elsewhere. That's why you break up or tightly regulate private monopolies. How is this difficult to understand?
Sunak is insisting on hanging on to his PM status, all the while flogging a dead horse, or any light at the end of the tunnel.
The conservative government didn't come in after lizz truss.
@janetmalcolm6191
28 күн бұрын
14 years is a long time to be in power to try turn things around where they have only blamed others and managed to do nothing. They just blame others got no ideas themselves and say Labour would be worse. Till the world crash 14 years ago Labour was doing well up to then. The country had services running. Nothing like the situation we are in now. Nothing working right.
He still upset he lost to a lettuce 😂😂😂😂
@PoppaKrunch
Ай бұрын
That would be a step up - after all he lost to a person, who lost to a lettuce. He didnt even reach the lettuce league, stuck in loser league.
Please turn the lights off the lights off
Fascinating point to cut the video with water privatisation being described as "really, really telling story of a bad policy, poor regulation". I'm sure the cut-off there has nothing to do with how the same description fits just about every privatisation and the clear failure of the business models it has spawned.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for a Tory to mention hospitals in any context 😂
But how can he suddenly stop blaming Jeremy Corbyn? This is so unfair to snub the guy now, so close to the end. Where's his loyalty? Theresa and Boris would still be on Corbyn after investing such time and effort scapegoating the fella. Sad times.
Let me guess, he said he was "proud" of his "achievements".
Why don’t politicians or media mention Brexit along with Covid and The war in Ukraine ?
Let Thames Water go bankrupt so that it can be nationalised at a very low price
@Nick-xf5hr
26 күн бұрын
The price is £0.00 They’ve already had too much tax payers money.
@TouringTony
26 күн бұрын
@Nick-xf5hr Zero for TW. However, the banks won't accept 0 pence on the pound for their debt
@Nick-xf5hr
26 күн бұрын
@@TouringTony nationalise the banks
@TouringTony
26 күн бұрын
@@Nick-xf5hr That made me laugh. Very funny
Bye bye Danger Mouse..
the real tell-tale is the honours list. Normally honours lists come out at New Year and on the Monarch's official birthday (Nov.14th for Charles). So why has Rishi Soon-axed released this one at Easter?...My hunch is that someone who has donated a lot of cash to the Tories bent his ear and said "I was promised a knighthood/peerage for my money, and I don`t think you will be around comes Nov.14th, so get on with it boy "
Decent? LOL. Nothing but self interest and incompetence, Sunak has made enough money for his Infosys spouse., time to resign.
How much more patience do the public have to have the dinghy's have been coming over in droves since 2016🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂😂😂😂
Only a crouton would blame a salad.
Sunak should also have been honest that it was Boris and his Downing Street lock down parties that destroyed any credibility the Tories had, rather than blame Liz Truss’ 40 days 😂😂😂
And deep may it sink
I'm not going to vote against Sunak because of the last 14 years. I can't, I don't live in Richmond. I'll just have to vote against his party then, won't I?
Itchy Sack isn’t looking too confident.
Many people are starving, destitute.... Of course people are "in a hurry"!
Flic was quite interesting- nice guest - nice humour too - get her back stig
I'm sorry but is the PM whining that he didn't know global pressures were a thing or trying to convince people no other on the planet had to deal with the pandemic and a war in Ukraine? Both clearly speak to government incompetency but one is clearly more disingenuous.
How can you try and blame Liz Truss? She was only in power for a few weeks! Sunak and the Tory cronies have had plenty of time to turn things around. He he wasn’t man enough for the job he should have let someone else in.
I just can’t warm to him. He sounds like he’s talking to a five year old when he speaks.
Use the time to regroup.......? That's a very small group😂
His biggest challenge might be the ICJ...
Bye, bye 👋 Sunak the goat 🐐!!!
Go, go, go now! Never does he mention the huge elephant in the room, ffs! I'm outraged Brexit is "shelved"! It's like Monty Python with this regime: we cut our arms and legs off, but, hey, it's only a flesh wound! God, give me strength!
" not much talent around" on Tory benches..... So clearly time they went away!
Its already sunk they're already in the life boats. Going nowhere fast.
Where do the commentators get the notion that Sunak is a decent man. He has demonstrated time and time again that he is without honour, without integrity and without empathy.
He’s just a drippy technocrat. No gravitas as a British PM.
Didnt the water companies get £220 milion (ish) to deal with sweage? Then used the money for bonuses and share holders?
It's always 'blame the previous' , ain't it? Makes a change that for once it's a relatively recent event!
I find it frankly bizarre that a single throwaway comment from a half hour interview is the thing that is being taken away from that interview.
Sunak did say when he got the job, rhat he would serve with integrity,,,professionalisim,,,and accountabillity,,,if his pledges werent met it would be on him,,, i could be wrong but i dont see any evedemce of any of the above have been met all have, 14 years the conservative have had and i haven't seen any improvent of any kind, infact everything have gotten worse in the past 14 years since the conservatives came to power...
He should do the decent thing and resign.
@Nick-xf5hr
Ай бұрын
He is not decent. He is a corrupt unelected traitor.
Is he likely to make his horse a consul,considering his mine of talent:I think the horse wins!
In fairness to Sunak it did seem to reset for Boris Johnson when he took over from Theresa May.
@DavidC-fk2wg
Ай бұрын
Very different circumstances. Johnson came in promising to break the brexit logjam (which he did manage to achieve), Sunak came in having to basically say "I will mop up the mess my party has spent the past few years making" and the public are saying "we remember who made the mess".
Looza .. 😅
The tories need to put the nation first. For the first time in 14 years they would do well to understand that the tory party is NOT the same as the country. The tories ideology of taking the most they can from people instead of letting people prosper so that there is more to take has been shown to be hostile to the interests of both nation AND citizen. They need to bow out with grace or have us (the people) drag them out physically
He has not blamed Liz Truss even once, he is just saying that he came at a tough time. Why is the headline so misleading in this video
@bardsamok9221
Ай бұрын
Watch again. He clearly _implied_ it was Truss. Listen this time. That said.. Obviously it's his negligence, not just Truss.
I blame Liz she was absolutely hopeless
I remember the Callaghan government that clung on to the last second. It was a terrible mistake for them, people became even more sick of them over the winter. The Tories making the same mistake will only deepen their loss.
@richardruff8712
Ай бұрын
GOOD !
Still cant blame BREXIT 😅
Wait until Sunak sees what Starmer taking on.