0:00; - Vibe with FIVE teaser 0:39; - Intro 1:39; - Rio gives his view on the current Ronaldo situation with ten Hag 3:53; - The list of issues currently surrounding CR7 5:12; - Are there similarities to Arsenal and Aubameyang? 5:53; - Is the Situation different for Ronaldo? 8:34; - Did Sir Alex ever explain why he dropped players? 10:19; - Joel gives his view on Ronaldo and ten Hag & Rio’s 6-point plan 12:27; - Was there conflict between the manager and the club? 14:55; - United’s wingers confidence in recent games 16:41; - Man United’s defensive improvements 18:32; - Joel’s comments on Casemiro and his recent impact 20:37; - Casemiro v Partey/Xhaka 24:38; - Was Nemanja Vidic the best CB in the PL era? 27:14; - Top or flop? signings this season: Jesus v Nunez 29:16; - Liverpool’s rocky start continues as they lose to Forest 31:40; - Haaland scores again as City best Brighton 32:00; - Spurs lose to Newcastle at home 32:55; - Grealish this season & Almiron form 34:27; - Fulham climbing the table and Mitrovic impact 35:38; - Stevie G and Villa’s 4-0 win after his sacking 37:14; - Arsenal draw 1-1 away to Southampton & Joel’s thoughts 39:18; - Rio talks about Arsenal’s learning curve 40:10; - Rio and Ste discuss when Giggs was booed by United fans 42:08; - Arsenal’s stats this season with and without Partey 43:05; - A huge win for Everton against Crystal Palace 43:52; - Jamie Vardy still scoring goals and Red Bull moment 45:23; - Which ‘good boy’ player wasn’t the best in training? 45:41; - Rio shares some stories about teammates night outs 47:30; - Outro

@whatbar

Жыл бұрын

Trrrrr4mmm

@tyler7863

Жыл бұрын

0

@GingahBish23

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo fan boys only statement “Ronaldo was our top goal scorer ‘LAST’ season” Key word being “LAST” closely rhymes with ‘PAST’ meaning living in the ‘PAST’

@crisseven1764

Жыл бұрын

Erik Ten Hag is the man. It is as simple as that. We back him 100%.

@animal764

Жыл бұрын

U seem to forget Cr7 faked a injury cuz he was getting dropped and flew out to fukn Portugal as we played City.. so wtf this is the 3x he disrespected the club, fans& his teammates & 2 managers

How that Casemiro v Partey debate lasted for more than 15 seconds is beyond every sane not just United but a football fan.

@J040PL7

Жыл бұрын

Even on physical condition casemiro wins, he missed like 30 games in 7 years 🤣 While partey plays for hospital fc more than arsenal.

Maybe it isn't as complicated as everyone is making it out to be? 1) If you don't go on pre-season, you're playing catch-up. 2) He wanted to leave in the summer. Made it obvious to everyone. Was desperate to leave (before he even met Ten Hag) 3) The team plays better without him at this moment in time 4) He will be leaving in January, or the Summer regardless of if all this happened or not If you look at it logically, all the things ETH is doing are making perfect sense. He isn't playing as much at the start because of the missed pre-season. He won't be here very long regardless. What is the point of building the team around Cristiano....It serves no purpose to the future of the club. Take off the rose tinted glasses, and also stop being up Rios arse Joel. I wouldn't sabotage my career as a manager by picking favourites. He dropped Maguire and nobody has piped up about it since, this should be the same. The problem a lot of fans have with ex-united pundits is they have their 'friend' hat on. They all talk about how Cristiano must be feeling, "oh he must be upset or fuming". All we want to see is the team play well, we're happy for him to be on the bench. He's getting paid 500k a week and he's almost 40. Be a role-model in the dressing room, and don't act like a child in front of the world.

@thatboyjosh2627

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly said man. perfectly said..

@EE-Z

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. I'd be living in dreamland just getting £500k in 10yrs, let alone getting it every week for 1-2yrs. If he really cared about playing CL football, he would've paid to terminate his contract and offer to play for Bayern or whoever for free, he can still earn a crap ton of money from image rights, sponsors and IG posts etc. Truth is no one wanted him with his egotistical demands and they saw that he becomes a blackhole of the team that sucks in possession and attention so it's not worth the hassle. It just so happens his form has been crap this season and we have a manager that's willing to put the clubs progress ahead of him which has made the whole thing worse and now he's throwing his toys out to force a move.

@mefninja

Жыл бұрын

100%

@tissetass96

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@christopherc6103

Жыл бұрын

I agree 98% of what you said. However, ETH did say multiple times that Cristiano is in the team's plan, just saying 🤷🏻‍♂️

I actually believe anything Rio said was actually came from Ronaldo. Rio is just a mailman to pass Ronaldo message to public.

@SATULAL

Жыл бұрын

Rio defending CR7 is one thing but I am bamboozled by how Keane is defending CR7!

@joshua3630

Жыл бұрын

@@SATULAL They want the best for him and the club. If Ronaldo plays, United benefit. He needs to play consecutive games and he will score.

@zinedinezidane4771

Жыл бұрын

If you grew up in the 90s you will understand Kean was egotistical too. He left Ireland camp on the eve of the world cup because the facilities werent up to scratch.

@robertpickstone

Жыл бұрын

100%. He is passing on what Ronaldo has told him. There’s no chance he would be so understanding, or have the same tone, with other players.

@scottm44

Жыл бұрын

@@SATULAL You must not know Keane, he has always respected and had time for people who are dedicated, train hard and had a mentality to win

Rio, we all admire you for being a club legend. Joel, we love you for being part of this great podcast, but please keep in mind that Erik Ten Hag's top priority is to win matches for united, and it's within his power to do whatever he wills to achieve that. It includes telling Ronaldo whatever he needs to and plays him whenever he pleases. Now if kicking out Ronaldo helps us get there faster, he should do that. He has zero obligation to Ronaldo. ZERO.

@TheCzechLad_

Жыл бұрын

Both Ronaldo and Rio will forever be remembered as Legends of this football club, but now we have to look forward and hope Ten Hag creates new legends of the future 🔥 I’ve backed every manager we’ve had before it was obvious its time to go, but I’m willing to give Ten Hag as much time as he needs to win the biggest trophies! Sir Alex took 6 years to win the league and he nearly got sacked

People keep saying EtH shouldve told Ronnie that he'd be a bit part player. But how is EtH supposed to give a verdict on how Ronnie would play if he isn't even there?

@IamSiba

Жыл бұрын

When Ronaldo is trying to be sold as well but ETH must convince Ronaldo? No! Ronaldo must convince ETH that he can help take United to the top and sadly his legs are gone

@MrSouvikD

Жыл бұрын

@@IamSiba AND he hasn't been able to convince even me, a huge fan, let alone EtH. His shot to goal ratio has been shambolic this season. Case in point, Omonia Nicosia

@socceraswelikeit-themanutd1243

Жыл бұрын

He was there cmon bro

@criticalthinking8982

Жыл бұрын

This is such an obvious statement for people who are objective.

@Only1koji

Жыл бұрын

A pre season would’ve helped too but what do I know?

Rio saying ETH communication is the problem, clearly showing that CR7 is telling him his side 😂😂😂

@averma12

Жыл бұрын

agree

@thrilla72

Жыл бұрын

Well, he is gonna back his boy.

@cottonhillfiddymen

Жыл бұрын

Ten hag dont know ronaldo like that he dont owe him nothing. All he demands is a level of football that cr7 cant produce. Its all on ronaldo

@youtubeuser1476

Жыл бұрын

@@cottonhillfiddymen Honestly mate, this is it in a nutshell. You look at the facts that everyone knows. Ronaldo didn't turn up to pre season tour. Then in one of the home pre season games he leaves early (yes, others did too) and disrespects his team. He then gets chances against teams like Brentford and Sociedad and does nothing. His build up play is shocking and it's not like he's banging them in all over the gaff. He then refuses to play and leaves the pitch again early when the team are winning. Forget anything else, that behaviour is unacceptable and while Keane said on Saturday that previous players have done worse at United, I couldn't care less about that. This is a ETH team, not a Fergie team, so that point Keane made is irrelevant. Long story short, Rio and Keane lose massive amounts of credibility for not saying "he's bang out of order" and saying nothing else after that. To say his behaviour isn't great or whatever, but the manager may have communication issues, is basically excusing his actions. You may say it's not Rio, but it is!!!!!

@tela6589

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This guy is ridiculous...

The reality is if any other player did what Ronaldo did we’d be screaming to get them out ASAP, but because it’s Ronaldo people make exceptions. You can’t have it both ways, either we brought Ten Hag in to change the culture or we are going to continue to struggle to compete at the highest level.

@jiijiceente533

Жыл бұрын

Because Ronaldo has won every trophy possible unlike these players who are the biggest contributors of our longest trophy drought in half a century

@GingahBish23

Жыл бұрын

@@jiijiceente533 Incase you haven’t noticed…. Ronaldo is 38

@neemnoa303

Жыл бұрын

Ofc you make exceptions with the arguably the best player EVER. Do you think there weren't exceptions with Best, Cantona, Messi, Maradona, Pelé..etc? The GOATS always get a preferential treatment, because they've already proven they are the best. Even Sir Alex was more lenient with Cantona or CR7 than with others. Even Roy Keane was more lenient with CR7. He saw the desire, he saw the talent, so he knew he's going to cry and throw a tantrum every once in a while. It's the result of wanting to always play and wanting to always be the best. But that's the attitude you want.

@delanlamar3656

Жыл бұрын

Mans said he would take partey over casemiro that’s mad

@joshua3630

Жыл бұрын

Any legend of the club would receive the exceptions. Thats the thing. Ronaldo is the exception because of what hes done for United.

Joel man you are shameless fella 😂🤣 Partey over Casemiro is a nightmare take, you know that brother 😂

@issie_adams

Жыл бұрын

typical deluded Arsenal fan 🤡

@Wow-hr1gl

Жыл бұрын

yeah im an arsenal fan and partey will never reach the level of Casemiro

@Itsthecreative

Жыл бұрын

🤢🤢🤢🤢 JoeL's gotta sickness

@justayankhouston741

Жыл бұрын

thc levels out of whack

This Ronaldo situation started when he went public with his transfer request at the start of preseason. ETH probably canceled him out from there. That was Ronaldo sending the message, ‘I don’t want to be a part of this’

@jerryradebe9741

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you and most of this Man united ex players fail to say that, he is the problem not ETH , he wanted champions league football and he thought by throwing his weight all over the place clubs would come running for signature but that didn't happen and that I'm.sure made eth lose respect for him

Miscommunication, he missed pre season, left game’s early, refusing to be subbed, also said he was going to give his side exclusive and getting his agent to look for CL football with another team and this is only what we know as fans, it doesn’t look good Rio but I respect your position as a friend, if Ronnie is talking about communication then there’s reason for Eric’s misgivings…GGMU

@jasgrewal91

Жыл бұрын

100% agree

@merengue7139

Жыл бұрын

We all love Rio but know at the same time he won’t ever speak bad about his pal Ronaldo and I respect that as well. Don’t rate his opinion on this one tho, its biased

@thedarknike6598

Жыл бұрын

key word what we know as FANS ......you chose to believe these rumors and rubbish but not the other stuff about leaks and players aye . nice respect yourself and wake up. for what Ronaldo did for man u last season every fan should humble themselves and wake up … last 5 games .. 0 goals Rashford 0 goals martial 0 goals Sancho ….. this a ploy to make ten hag look better . you keep him ? play him enough with this rubbish that pre season game a bunch of players left lol and he should be refusing to jump on at the 88th minute lol. subbed at 0-0 at newcastle not played against spurs NOICEEEEEEE

@reduk1999

Жыл бұрын

@@thedarknike6598 sorry mate which of the above is a rumour, I was trying to be non biased the guy brought a lot of joy in my time as a Manchester United fan, not as a Ronaldo fanboy, as it stands he gets £500 thousand a week to play for the TEAM if Ten Hag can not set a standard for the current team and future players then his hands are tied and this isn’t the state to take us forward

@thedarknike6598

Жыл бұрын

@@reduk1999 don’t make a promise you can’t keep bruv … ten hag kept on mentioning that Ronaldo is part of his plans bla bla bla only for him to not use him at all , it’s quite clear he don’t want Ronaldo and Manchester NEED Ronaldo for off field purposes but the fact that a so called fan like yourself takes time out of day to be little Ronaldo and talk highly of ten hag treatment “ to set a standard “ is complete rubbish if you don’t know how to respect an icon of the club then don’t mention his name .

It’s quite clear that Ronaldo told Rio that he did not get communication about his role and that’s what his buddies are going to use to bat for him. They are forgetting the part of the story where the club allowed him to leave and no one wanted him!

@SpodermanEU

Жыл бұрын

U know it all

@maderianmin

Жыл бұрын

Actually that is also a lie... Roy confirmed that...

@flaviantropy

Жыл бұрын

That is BS. The club didnt let him move to Napoli and a few other teams. Roy Keane confirmed that too.

@doggadof5173

Жыл бұрын

You sound stupid 😭

Personally I feel Ronaldo was communicated to about his role when ETH first came in, and I feel he wasn’t happy with it hence not showing up to preseason for convenient family issues and looking to a move during that time. When he realized the move wasn’t going to happen he figured he’d play himself into the team or use his stature to get what he wants. To his surprise ETH is a stronger character than expects and his influence on the team football wise is not convincing him bough to guarantee the role he wants. It’s as simple as Ronaldo needs to commit to the team or move on and pursue his individual goals elsewhere

@lawmantheonetrueking3739

Жыл бұрын

Could be right let’s hope Eric’s strong character gets McT, Fred, Shaw, Rashford, Jones, AWB and the Captain gone out of the club so he can bring in characters like Martinez and Casemiro. Jan is unlikely but no new/extended contracts for any mentioned and gone at end of season at latest. They are not good enough.

@n0273

Жыл бұрын

@@lawmantheonetrueking3739 we both know one or two of those guys will undeservedly get a new contract 🙄

@keithdalitso5175

Жыл бұрын

I don't think a coach would tell a player he's not in his plans before he even kicks a ball.

@charlesreit915

Жыл бұрын

Bro his child passed away shortly before! That’s not a valid family reason? To put convenient makes you look like an idiot to be honest!

@blacklotus5364

Жыл бұрын

Not really 'convenient family issues', I think the guy lost a child? Not to disagree with your greater point around that but no need to go too far. Maybe there was just bad luck and a few examples of miscommunication on all sides. Usually how real life works

I would suggest that Ten Hag DID communicate his plans to Ronaldo the FIRST DAY he was here, Ten Hag's second day at the club it came out that Ronaldo wanted to leave. I think "communicating properly" means telling him what he wants to hear. Since then Ten Hag has treated Ronaldo like a player that doesn't want to be there.

@zm19827

Жыл бұрын

SPOT ON!!!

@eXpressYourselfClips

Жыл бұрын

Hold up! If C7 wanted to leave on day 2, doesn't that suggest a discussion between him and Ten Haag happened hence the reason he wanted out? Bottom line is, while Man Utd owes C7 alot!, Ten Haag owes him nothing

@Nightsu

Жыл бұрын

""communicating properly" means telling him what he wants to hear. ". spot on

@Einstain007

Жыл бұрын

Period! He doesn't want to be here. Treat him like so!

I love how all of you are setting each other up to give an answer to prove your next point. Great show guys!

He might have been in his plans if he was there pre season

@thecollectiveau5136

Жыл бұрын

Hey probably would have been. But he played marital and found Martial worked better for his system

For almost 10 years all I heard from these former United players is what Fergie would do the current United squad. But now they wanna get pissy because ten Hag is doing what they've been asking for.

@tela6589

Жыл бұрын

Hypocrites...that's the Word...

@abdelchowdhury

Жыл бұрын

So you guys think Fergie never played anyone who was disgruntled or wanted to leave? Or even refused to come on?

@JayB_Cnt

Жыл бұрын

Ive supported united since 1990, who are the players you are talking about? I remember he was the manager and any nonsense then they will be dropped, please name who he gave an exception to

@abdelchowdhury

Жыл бұрын

@@JayB_Cnt Paul Scholes refused to play in a game against Arsenal…he was reprimanded but no one started crying about it and making it look like he killed someone… Roy Keane & Ronaldo both wanted to leave… neither were dropped and frozen out of the team….Cantona fcking kung fu kicked a fan and people didn’t act like they are doing now… Yes, Fergie was strict but to think he kicked out every player every time they were unhappy, asked to leave or did something wrong is rewriting history….

Big up guys 💥 🇷🇸 Nemanja Vidić my favourite can't wait till you have him on. Also - Casemiro >> Partey

rio constantly saying hes not defending ronaldos behaviour but then shifting blame onto everyone but ronaldo. ronaldo doesnt care about whats best for the team or the managers choices. he only cares about his appearances and his goal records.

@jcc8019

Жыл бұрын

😂

@maderianmin

Жыл бұрын

He did not...your comprehension skills are appalling😱😱😱😱

Rio defending his mate to remain in the good books as per. These guys don't want any United manager to succeed unless it's Ole

Ronaldo changed the state of affairs from the GET GO when he waited until days before pre season started to inform the club he wanted to leave. He then wouldn’t join the tour in any capacity due to personal reasons which could be pure coincidence, but to me feels too convenient. I think he believed he’d have a new club within a few weeks of his announcement. He then starts our season unfit , and quite frankly when he’s played against the lesser teams in the Europa, he’s been abjectly poor. I don’t get how Rio can say Ten hag should have informed him - he owes him NOTHING, especially when he’s dropping sub par performances against minnows. And how are we certain ten hag knew he wasn’t in his plans during the summer ? Greatest player of all time for me but we need to look at this rationally. Lukaku leaked our running stats for his own PR and we all wanted him gone, why are we making exceptions for someone who is approaching 40 and has absolutely no interests in the success of the team? Thanks for the memories but it’s time to move on for both parties

@babatundeomoniyi2377

Жыл бұрын

SPOT ON 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

@jcbones3098

Жыл бұрын

How do you know that Ronaldo hadn’t informed ManU earlier about his intentions to leave?

@danika181263

Жыл бұрын

Well said 👏 👌 👍

@livewia

Жыл бұрын

@@jcbones3098 How do you know that he did?

@jcbones3098

Жыл бұрын

@@livewia Do you honestly believe that Ronaldo informed ManU that he wanted to leave, and the media got the story right away. The media gets the story when ManU releases it. For all we know Ronaldo could have told them at the beginning of 2022 that he had intentions of leaving.

These ex-United players defended Ole the last two years when we were absolutely abysmal, but now they wanna attack ten Hag who's actually trying to build the team.

@JayB_Cnt

Жыл бұрын

They are all muppets. I would love to go on the show and place facts on the table where they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. You're spot on about ole aswell. They defended that crap manager and would still look you dead in the face and say give him time. Eth said the other day about standards of the club, that line right there, just shows he wants to reset the club and im 1000% behind him

Please do a Vibe with Five "Night Out" show with Rio! I was on the floor laughing with the short segment here: "The gun fingers", etc. Brilliant and hilarious!

Casemiro or partey? 😂 Is that even a question.

@Johndoe-gf7eu

Жыл бұрын

Its joel making these ridiculous titles and discussions, he is a troll. Type of fan who makes you hate a whole fan base, proper weird guy

@Johndoe-gf7eu

Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t even believe it his self he is just fishing

@johnvornlocker

Жыл бұрын

clickbait nonsense

@ViolettAudios

Жыл бұрын

It’s such an insult to Casemiro lol So many English people are just clueless about La Liga, the teams and players. They look down at it, and them.

@mloose7870

Жыл бұрын

@@Johndoe-gf7eu I cannot stand him man he’s such a donkey, he’s makes all Arsenal fans look like absolute clowns & hence why everyone piles on 100x Arsenal when they flop it’s because of clowns like this 🤡🤡🤡

I now see why a lot of ex-players fail at management, it’s weird the way Rio and Keane (on Ronaldo) speak… they are mostly going off of his name and not “what has he done for me lately” I could be wrong though

@masongreenward9063

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo out , no player is big than a club , he should retire now we don't need him

I’m getting really triggered by this 😂 rio how is ten hagg going to tell the greatest striker ever that he’s not in his plans in the summer without seeing him in training ?

Defending Ronaldo might just reduce the credibility of Ferdinand's pundit career. Hope Ronaldo helps Ferdinand the way he's defending him. Ferdinand would not have said a word if this was Sir Alex.

@viponix

Жыл бұрын

Tell me where he defended him please.

@ThePADRAIG9

Жыл бұрын

Not just me so...how can manager tell him exactly when he will play .. Maybe certain games need certain decisions mid game...cringe Rio

@GingahBish23

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine if Social media existed when Sir Alex was managing. He would of been sacked after a few years for upsetting players.

@youtubeuser1476

Жыл бұрын

@@viponix Are you winding me up? Any moment in this conversation where he says the communication towards Ronaldo needs to be better, is defending him. By uttering that sentence, he is effectively saying "I can see why Ronaldo would act this way because communication towards him isn't good enough". Listen I love a bit of trolling and banter, but please tell me you are joking

@minrian9572

Жыл бұрын

Sir Alex would never drop Ronaldo, he would rather turned the beast mode on

Joel is insane putting Xhaka and Party in same bracket as Casemiro, also Vidic was an absolute monster of a defender. As a United fan I rated Jiip Jaap higher though he had the strength and aggression of Vida and speed of Rio.

@Itsthecreative

Жыл бұрын

The less I say about JoeL's (and majority of Arsenal fans) adoration for both of Arsenal's DMs the better. And he has the audacity to open his mouth and talk ish about our players, what a joker

@nurbolnurdaulet6613

Жыл бұрын

Jaap is the best CB EVER for me. unplayable. Also comparing Xhaka to Casemiro is different level.

Casemiro is in a whole other level, let's not even try to compare, the guy won 5 Champions cmon.

@Itsthecreative

Жыл бұрын

The less we say about JoeL's (and majority of Arsenal fans) adoration for both of Arsenal's DMs, the better. And he has the audacity to open his mouth and talk ish about our players, what a joker

Please take this into consideration! We saw Casemiro looking like a different player when he wasn’t receiving consistent starts and then that changed and now he looks like Real Madrid Casemiro when he’s received consistent play. You have to be delusional to not think that same idea goes toward Cristiano! The proof is in the pudding, Cristiano IS (with no debate) the most consistent goal scorer of all time but that will rely on consistency of play. They go hand and hand. All strikers no matter the stature rely on momentum. Ten Haag has done a great job and I love the form Man U have been in but please anyone here, (even Joel HAHA), who was the last front line attacking player to score for Man U this year? Cristiano against Everton!!! A consistent Man U would have built back their defense, (they have) built back a consistent mid field presence, (they have) and understood that Rashford is a winger and always has been a winger, and should have built that culture around Ten Haag’s ideas but also with a lethal striking force, because we have the luxury of having the most consistent, clutch and potent scorers of all time. I have fears of scoring droughts with this MAN U team, which is crazy to say when they have a guy who just scored his 700th club goal on the team.

@lawmantheonetrueking3739

Жыл бұрын

Charles at last a balanced view instead of a lot of nonsense. The media are loving the infighting at Utd. We are our own worse enemy. Ronaldo could have helped us get CL and maybe win a cup this season but persisting playing with a front line that can barely score and full backs who still need to learn how to cross a ball. Shaw’s to Casemiro was great but can’t remember when he or the other backs or wingers hit other good balls into the area. As for Rashford he is not the 18 year old starlet he is not a 9. Martial is but is injured too often. I hope Erik can resolve this but when Ronaldo goes who will replace his goals? No one here at this time.

@giorgiob8464

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget to take his nearly 38 yrs of age into consideration as well. He's not the Ronaldo of 2015. He can't play 90 mins 3 times a week anymore.

@charlesreit915

Жыл бұрын

@@giorgiob8464 I sincerely disagree! I think playing him more will help his stamina. His conditioning was never a problem last year which is only a short 6 months ago. He is not even close to a regular 38 year old, even more so with his evolved play style.

I don’t understand. Ronaldo is in his plans just like AWB and Donny, in his plans to be squad players

@n0273

Жыл бұрын

💀💀😂😂

Glad Joel pointed out that Rio has a tone of defence in his answer. Fair enough, he hasn’t condoned Ronaldo’s actions, but he is quick enough to change the conversation to “the manager should have had X conversation with Ronaldo” and dwells on what the manager should be doing, rather than fully calling out the petulance of a man nearing 40 years of age. It was embarrassing from Ronaldo and it’s embarrassing that the ex-players continue to laud him when we actually have a manager who is getting a hold of the culture.

@JayB_Cnt

Жыл бұрын

He done the same with ole. Our legends cant see how bias they are. No blame whatsoever should be placed on eth. The manager is there to manage

@maderianmin

Жыл бұрын

He is right tho..shitty manager

@qinfo8891

Жыл бұрын

All you want is people insulting Ronaldo like you do. All rio is saying is Prevention is better than cure my friend.

This is why I wasn't looking forward to this week's episode, because I already knew what Rio was going to say. He would definitely talked differently if it wasn't CR7.

@cottonhillfiddymen

Жыл бұрын

Noones like ronaldo. Tbf he commands a level of respect second to none at this point in history

@gabikhalifaabubakar911

Жыл бұрын

@@cottonhillfiddymen but if ETH gives him previleges wouldn't that give other players reasons to do what he has been doing

I love this channel 😂 cracks me up everytime!!

What Ronaldo did was wrong he disrespected the club, the fans, the manager, his teammates and his tarnished his legacy. As an experienced pro he knows better and Ronaldo knew his actions would blow up he should have had it out with Ten Hag in private if they were mixed messages. And you can see the thousands of fans have called Ronaldo out on his antics and BS he thought he was bigger than the club and he got put in his place. And I still don’t hear or see an apology from him.

Partey is good yeah...but Casemiro is way clear. He is the blue print of the position 🤣

Ronaldo’s agent was already selling him to any club at cut price wages and somehow Ten Hag must be the one bending the knee to Ronaldo? Come on guys

@tim66612343

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. He wanted to leave and missed preseason, for whatever reason. Love him but can't defend this. Hope it's sorted soon in a way that works for both parties.

Guys, thank u once again for a brilliant brilliant show.

They guys i love ur show. I wish u can put time stamps and maybe a shorter version of highlights (longer than the beginning)

Joel came with all the receipts 😂😂

Rio - 8:40 - SAF didn’t always communicate the plan for upcoming games though did he? That’s why Scholesy drove up to the station at Stockport and told him he wasn’t travelling to Arsenal after the scouse cameo. Got fined 2 week’s wages and thought he was gone.

@qinfo8891

Жыл бұрын

And that was sad mistake. Making rio’s point. Prevention is better than cure my friend

1. Rio I really respect how hard you're trying to be loyal to Ronaldo, we all do love him and you. But you're not being loyal to the club - the thing we all love. 2. How can EtH 'commuicate' at the start of the season how involved Ronaldo will be. Firstly, Ronaldo wasn't even there. Secondly, there are so many factors: form, injuries, morale, games etc. It would be silly for a manager to make commitments at the start of the season. EtH has actually done a really well to keep results going and handle this Ronaldo situation. Many managers wouldn't be able to. 3. Even if the it was somehow EtH's fault (which it isn't). You know the principle: The manager is the most important person at the club and no player is bigger than the club. We could have argubaly blamed Sir Alex during the Becks, Keane or Van Nistelrooy fall outs. And Sir Alex was probably to blame for some of them. But he pointed to the principle. Club > Player.

Yes, that show please fellas! Awesome content and great episode. Joel 😂

its not as simple as having a convo with Ronaldo before the season, he was playing him and Ronaldo wasn't producing. ETH changed the personnel and the team started playing better, so unfortunately for Ronaldo, ETH started playing a team with form.

@mosesjuice2

Жыл бұрын

Exactly going on as if he didn't play multiple 90minutes before Tottenham. Shocking from Rio and Keane. Really makes me doubt anything they say in future.

@BodyFiit88

Жыл бұрын

@@mosesjuice2 Its the same again with the lack of backing of the manager. Really starting to lose some respect for keane. Going on about they are only in 5th. Yet Ole was clearly out of his depth and he would continually back him and tell everyone he needs time.

I love this show and grateful for the work of everyone on the team. Got to say though, it seems like Rio (and to some extent Steve ) is not at all enthusiastic about ETH. I feel this in a lot of the ex players and i wonder why? I mean i'm all for staying calm, it's very early days and we have been strong but inconsistent. The process is underway, anyone that knows football can see it. Man Utd are showing the early signs of being a force again in the PL. This is primarily down to ETH. The results have been mixed sure, but clearly we now have a system, a character and styles of transition in the play are emerging. I think and hope it's time we start recognising he incredible job ETH has done. Remember the last few years? The embarrassment and disappointment at the way UTD played, heart and soul - we were mashed.

@zinedinezidane4771

Жыл бұрын

Do you watch Steves own channel? He is very excited with ETH

Keep up the good work 🤜♥️⚽

Great episode today 👏🏿👏🏿

Tbf when Ste was saying Arsenal were going to struggle in October he probably didn't take into account that the City game would be postponed till March

How could ETH know whether Ronaldo was going to a bit part player at the beginning of the season? I suspect he was going to see if he could adapt - and he didn't. Simple!

The absolute LENGTHS this man goes to to defend his friend is absolutely crazy. All those years of shouting “CLUB OVER ANYONE” when the subject were other players is all just BS now isn’t it. The attitude is diff when it’s your friend who can affect your brand 😊

I remember the last few times United played against Chelsea, and all of us United fans are just salivating at the midfield options they have in the mold of Kante and Jorginho. Now, Potter has to change formation in the first half to play with our midfield. Casemiro is simply the best CDM in the league right now!

Joel needs to be suspended for 3 episodes. Casemiro vs Partey? Lol that’s a straight red card for you Joel.

@dawitsco9283

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣,no we need him for banter

I don't know why everyone's decided Ten Hag only wants Ronaldo as a sub. He's literally just played his strikers who are scoring. I fully believe he would be playing Ronaldo now the other strikers have stopped scoring if Ronaldo hadn't made it impossible to pick him. Great show today! Some good chat and entertaining all the way through.

@tylergriffin2499

Жыл бұрын

Players who are scoring 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@tylergriffin2499

Жыл бұрын

I go are there players scoring

@CH-gb7hf

Жыл бұрын

Remember the game where everyone was serving up potential assists to Ronnie for him to get his 700th and he fluffed all of them? Haha To be fair our whole attack is pony at the moment.

@robswrld5527

Жыл бұрын

@@CH-gb7hf “attack has been awful” agreed! Hence why CR7 has been looking awkward... Because he has these silver-level players in attack around him.

@mosesjuice2

Жыл бұрын

@@robswrld5527 first game against Cyprus team they where only short of picking the ball up sticking it on the goal line for him to tap in like and end of season lap of appreciation.

I love this podcast and I absolutely love we have Joel vs Ferdinand and stee agains each other

Rio talking about arteta wanting more from his 9 than goals. Same as ETH with Ronaldo but he won’t mention that will he!!!

No matter how good you are, it's always a new challenge under any manager to prove your worth... There are lot of games to be played. Because Ronnie didn't play one game and was asked to come in late doesn't mean he won't play 90mins in other games. Prove your self under ETH and you're good.

How can Rio come up with a ‘6 point plan’ for Ten Haag to be successful at Man Utd and then be actively telling the manager to make exceptions for 1 player. You let 1 slide and the whole ship sinks. Mans talking about conversations when he decided to miss an entire pre-season because he wanted to leave , he wasn’t there !!! These are the consequences of his own actions

@qinfo8891

Жыл бұрын

Prevention is better than cure my friend

Rio's 6 point plan for Ten Hag: Set the culture - but when it's Ronaldo defend him at all costs 🥱

Rios friendship with Ronaldo is clouding his judgement. The majority of the fan base are sick of the egos in the dressing room controlling how the club is run, 6 years of Pogba has shown us that things need to change and hopefully ETH is the man to do it

Yes I would love to see more overlaps and low crosses into the box 1-2s

@lawmantheonetrueking3739

Жыл бұрын

Problem is we don’t have anyone who can cross on a regular basis and we don’t have anyone to put them in. Well we have one but…..

Rio, the reason why he was not told about his role in the team at the start of the season is because he and his agent were too busy agitating for a move away from the team that he is surprised that he is viewed sceptically by… he is the goat but is acting like a spoilt brat…

5 days later and I’m still trying to process how the Casemiro vs Partey/Xhaka discussion even happend 😅

Ten Hag dealt with Ronaldo situation perfectly in my view. Would any top manager deal with it differently (Fergie/Pep/Klopp)

Ex-players, who are friends of Ronaldo, ALL desperately trying to control the narrative of shifting the blame onto a brand new manager is just flat-out gross. I love Rio, Keano, et al.. but they might as well just all say "He's my mate, so I'm not going to talk about it". Putting unnecessary pressure on a manager who has behaved impeccably just to protect their mate who is acting like a brat is embarassing. Ronaldo has REPEATEDLY been a horrendously selfish poor professional (team sense, not personal fitness/desire sense) - he got away with it when he was the best player on the pitch every week.. but he isn't now. Every player loses the battle against time - evidenced by the fact NOBODY in Europe wants him, and probably want him even less watching him doing his best clown impression at every opportunity.

What a show, Thanks rio, your transparency is amazing This guy said Partey of Case wow

There's no evidence that Ten Hag entered the season with an intention to drop Ronaldo. Ronaldo wasn't match fit for Brighton at home, having missed training and tour. Nevertheless ETH brought him on after 53 minutes. Ronaldo then started Brentford away. He gave the ball away for the first goal, and was dreadful in terms of helping the side keep possession/press Brentford. He was then rightly dropped in favour of Elanga (with Martial not ready to start - he came on at 45) for the Liverpool game, and United played much better. United have played far better this season without him. The only game he made a crucial intervention in was Everton, where the team was set up with Martial as striker (Ronaldo came on after 27). Every game Ronaldo has started, we've been dreadful - Brentford (a), Sociedad (h), Sheriff (a), Nicosia (a), Nicosia (h) Newcastle (h). Sheriff away and Newcastle home we were immediately better when Rashford and/or Martial were subbed in.

I don't think Ten Hag made any concrete plan for who would start more this season.... people who play more are players whom have shown they deserve to play.... he started with Maguire,.... kept on playing Scott..... Thank you Joe for reminding Rio about the Aubameyang situation

Love the avirex jacket Rio 🔥

Love vibe with five. Good points across the board. Joel man what’s going on with that hair 😂😂😂bro. Also partley no chance

Hang on a minute, Ronaldo was looking for a move all summer. Was that action based on a conversation with Ten Hag or was it because of the state of the club? He can't have it both ways, he was looking for a move, couldn't get one and now is suprised that Ten Hag doesn't want to play him when he has more mobile options that he feels can carry out his game plan.

No one wanted Ronaldo to prove ten Hag and the haters wrong and bang them in more than me but the writing's on the wall. The team is actually thriving with him sat on the bench (even though Rashford is not the long term answer for no.9) AND it also looks like his team mates don't like him (it's the same with the Portugal national team). Atleast he scored goal no.700 with us. I wish him all the best in January and hopefully he doesn't do further damage to his legacy with these antics. Also, Joel is another clueless Rory. How dare he mention the never fit Partey or Xhaka in the same sentence as Casemiro?

Quick question.. how the hell does Rio know that ETH didn't speak to Ronaldo, and told him that he isn't gonna be playing a lot this season? because (1) HE (Ronaldo) wanted to leave before the season even started and made it VERY clear. (2) The man is freaking 37 YEARS OLD!!! (3)HE DOESN'T FIT IN THE SYSTEM!!!!!!! (4) We play soooo much better without him. And here I thought that Rio being a former United player, would see that its bigger than just one player, and the team doesn't and shouldn't revolve around one player, whether he's club legend or not. I just really hope Ronaldo goes in January, but knowing this club, they'll keep him until the end of the summer just to make more money selling t shirts.

@lawmantheonetrueking3739

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo may have told Rio. Just curious how you would know Erik did speak to Him?

all I got to say if Harry Maguire or whoever did something similar to Ronaldo, Rio would have a VERY DIFFERENT podcast

@CheekySport

Жыл бұрын

Tell him again! 😂

Why are people confused at Roy Keane sticking up for CR7. You must not know Keane, he has always respected and had time for people who are dedicated, train hard and had a mentality to win

Ronaldo missed pre season so how would Ten Haag know what Ronaldo had left

@neemnoa303

Жыл бұрын

He is only the greatest professional of all time who looks after his body like a madman? He was United best player just last season? hOw WOuld tEN hAAg kNOw wHaT rONalDo hAd LeFT? Give me a break...

I believe ETH had Ronaldo in his plans. But he never got to see if Ronaldo could do what ETH expects of him during matches until after pre season. And then he was playing catch-up in terms of fitness. This is not a matter of setting out his plans at the beginning of the season. Martial performed better than expected and became part of the plans. Ronaldo wasn’t there and lost his spot to martial in pecking order. ETH is fair. Ronaldo performs means he wins back his spot. No one is bigger than club, so no one keeps place based on reputation

On Sancho, It always takes the mercurial type players the longest time to adjust to possession type coaching and styles of play. You can see Sancho is more focused on not losing the ball than he is taking his man on. He needs to find the right balance. I don’t think he’ll find that on the left, he needs a chance back on the right where he’ll be forced to make crosses and add more to his game rather than cutting in, but with Antony playing so well it’ll be difficult to do so.

I don’t think you can blame ten hag for ronaldo’s reaction against spurs. For one the statement of giving him five minutes here and there isn’t true. Barring the spurs game, where we adopted a very intense press consistently throughout that match (not something ronaldo is exactly renown for doing especially at 37), he started 3 of the last 4 games and the one he didn’t start he came on 18 minutes into the came and still played 70 odd minutes. The only reason he wasn’t in the Chelsea squad is because of storming out the mid match against spurs. When his teammates arguably played the best game of their season. Ronaldo missed pre season, played his hand get a new club in summer, (which the club let Jorge mendes try to find a suitor, without preventing him) but no European club came in. The manager shouldn’t have to play a half fit player who wants to leave just because it’s ronaldo and that’s without mentioning he’s not playing well for united or Portugal at the moment. Barring pundits pulling excuses out of thin air to I assume not tarnish ronaldo’s legacy and put the blame on anyone but him. I don’t see how you can see the previous months course of events and think ronaldo is being disrespected or the manager is being dishonest or something.

ETH thought CR7 would score the goals based on last season, but that hasn't happen yet and therefore he is benching CR7

How about: ETH wanted CR7 to be his striker, except that CR7 then missed all of pre-season and worse he DOESN'T SCORE in any of the matches he starts this season. If CR7 would be scoring goals like he did last season ETH wouldn't have to bench him! End of discussion.

Rio To be fair to ETH, Ronaldo did not show up for the preseason training. And when he arrived at Carrington after the Australian tour, he came with his agent for "showdown talks" That is not conducive to having a conversation about your role in the first 11

Rio needs to take some blame. Ronaldo was ready to join City until Rio and co. personally called Ronaldo and told him not to go to City. If Ronaldo followed his heart, he would have gone to City, scored loads of goals, and continued his goal tally. The decline of Ronaldo is on Rio and whoever else was involved. Rio the same dude who said to give Ole a blank cheque and take whatever salary he asks for.

Funny how Rio says none of this if it wasn't his mate. Double standards Rio! Was a big fan before I heard this. Ronnie's had more minutes up top than any other striker. 2 goals in 700 mins rio and he doesn't have to prove himself?! Get real

This, THIS is literally why I wanted Ronaldo to leave, he attracts so much unwanted media attention that it diminishes the managers efforts. Already ex-United legends are criticising EtH, forgetting what Sir Alex said "no player is bigger than the club"

@sagarmagar255

Жыл бұрын

CR7 clearly wanted to keave the fking club, but club keep him didn’t they? + baldy manager clearly said he is in the plan yet not letting him playing in top matches and bringing him in fking 85min. World cup is in almost fking 1 month, and him not playing full.

@pedropierre9594

Жыл бұрын

Sir Alex, who kept Cantona after the kung fu kick, Keane after the knee breaker, Scholes after skipping on a game Rooney after saying he wanted out ? Read a bit no ?

@lwandilezuma2292

Жыл бұрын

@Pedro Pierre they got their rightful punishments too and the context: 1. Cantona's kick wasnt towards the squad and undermining the manager 2. Scholes (The Overlap) told us how he got what was getting to him. 3. Rooney got dealt with and in fairness we needed him, he was still heavily contributing to our success. besides, you're missing the point. The CONTINUOUS media attention Ronaldo gets is insane compared to any of those players.

@lwandilezuma2292

Жыл бұрын

@@sagarmagar255 you're reading bias news to get that information. it's been widely reported by credible outlets that EtH was open for him to leave but either 1. The clubs he was linked too weren't in full agreement to sign him (Bayern, Chelsea and Tuchel, Atletico) 2. Or Ronaldo didnt wanna go there (Sporting Lisbon, Napoli) take your Ronaldo stan(ism) and put the club first.

The end for me was interesting I loved it ues Rio please bring a show and talk about the lifestyle and night out moments with those stars we love its gona be a banger

Yooooo, stingray really moved up from being on cobra Kai 🙌🏻 great episode boys

Loved this episode and how Rio just sits there shaking his haed at Joel's comments.. Rio's thinking "How the F*** did this man get the job"?... 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

@Itsthecreative

Жыл бұрын

Rio gave it him 😂😂😂😂

I think Ronaldo has always played for himself. He saw the situation at UTD the season before last. Perhaps believed Ole was a soft touch as a manager and could boss the situation like he does with that numpty who's the Portugal coach. I don't think Ronaldo accepts being a bit player on the bench even if it's communicated to him properly. So it's best he leaves and over time UTD fans will forget this sad last episode and only remember all the greatness.

Wow JOEL says some mad stuff man, he is entertaining not gonna lie!

This Partey v Casemiro thing is not even a debate. I'm a Chelsea fan and have no bias to this. If your putting out team to play a world cup/champions league final tomorrow, even an out of form Casemiro is getting in over Partey. Knowhow, experience, leadership gets him in him before form in my eyes, which he's got atm anyway. Great show guys as always!

RIO please wake up, ETH has been clear with all the players. I don't believe he wasn't communicated properly. I know CR7 is your mate but people need to understand CR7 is a rotational player. Yes CR7 scores goals but without him United are playing better football.

@cookerdegree4938

Жыл бұрын

all hes doing even if its inadvertent is spreading negativity when we should 100% be backing Ten Hag

@tendaimatambanadzo5900

Жыл бұрын

@@cookerdegree4938 agreed.This group of former players think they have a greater say or louder voice than anyone else.They have this notion that the so called legends Ole and Ronaldo should not be criticised.Rio is talking rubbish.AGAINST NEWCASTLE RONALDO STARTED AND WAS SUBBED AT 70 MINUTES HE WALKED OFF WITH A SULK AND PETULANCE.EVEN UNDER OLE WHEN SUBBED HE ALWAYS SULKED.This is why us fans just want hm out.Let him just go.ETH does not this drama.If the team flops without Ronaldo it is ETH's ass on the line not Ronaldo.Just get him out

@krez2377

Жыл бұрын

Ronaldo is bigger than the club.

@tendaimatambanadzo5900

Жыл бұрын

@@krez2377 Well Ten Hag has proved that it is not true.United bigger than Ferguson Rooney Best Charlton or anyone else.Yes i know that you fanboys think that Ronaldo is a demigod but United is now worth 4 -5 billion pounds .Ronaldo is rich maybe a billionaire but our club is bigger and will always bigger. My message to Ronaldo fanatics this is what will happen: he can apologise to the coach the teammates even privately then he accepts that his playing tme is dependent on his form and the strategy and tactics for any particular game. If he does not want to do then he goes in January to another team which wants to pay him and guarantee he plays when he wants.Smple really

@krez2377

Жыл бұрын

@@tendaimatambanadzo5900 Rio disagrees, he wasn’t treated fairly. From a revenue standpoint it’s impossible to compare an organization to Ronaldo especially considering how much revenue he generated for the club since he’s joined. But from a global standpoint he is much bigger, 550m instagram followers for the goat compared to 50m for united. Just one of the many comparisons of how Ronaldo is much bigger than the club. The least they can do is sell him when he asks instead of keep him and lie to him after he was the best player last season getting more man of the match awards than Kevin de Bruyne Mo Salah and Son. Playing with a donkey like maguire after his legendary career than being benched in the biggest games like man city and Tottenham. Disrespectful. Would’ve scored more than halaand has if he joined city.

Rio, Cristiano released a statement but didn’t apologized. Why are you legends siding with Cristiano when you said something else when it was about Aubameyang? The later did even less than what Cristiano did. I don’t understand it

I don’t appreciate the idea that a manager can somewhat guarantee a player how much (or little) time he is going to play. Every club has a squad of player who all wants to play as much as possible. The managers final judgement must be based on the players form, how he show himself on the training field and how he perform in matches. If he does’nt perform, on the training field, matches and the statistics tends to show that the team are doing better without that player, the manager obviously need to take the decisions that gaines the team, not the player. Both Rio and Keane should see that. A manager simply cannot promise a player matches due to performance one season ago. Eric Ten Hag have have done a great job in his first season as manager for United. Former managers had to struggle with poroblems in the dressing room, ETH is making sure thats not going to happen this time. No player is bigger than the club, yes it is a cliché, but its an important one.

Great show as always. Ste interrupts too much 😅 let rio talk man!! Haha great show guys 👍🏾🙏🏾

Love Joel this season, just calling our Rio and Stephen. Let's go Joel - love your new approach. Don't let them get away with it.

Rio is the friend you need in life 😂 imagine it was Pogba omg

There are reports from all the tier 1 journalist that there was no offer for Ronaldo from any European clubs. Oly offer was from Saudi Arabia. I dont get the argument that TenHag didnt communicate. I dont buy CR7 stayed cos of his loyality to club. He didnt have an option

Can’t wait for the “Drinking Culture in Football” episode 😛 that’s gonna be one of your best ever shows 👌

As a United fan, I love Joel lol

@Only1koji

Жыл бұрын

If u like that we’re happy for u

@garyhodgkinson4233

Жыл бұрын

he's a bellend gooner gobshite

The fact these lot have the AUDACITY to even TRY to compare Casemiro to Partey and Xhaka... Either clueless about Football, blind, or delusional. Casemiro is quite literally the best CDM in history.

@ViolettAudios

Жыл бұрын

The trophies he’s won, his stats, his passing, his consistency, his fitness level, his injury record. There’s no other CDM in the history of this sport that’s on his level. Nope. That’s just facts.