Rigid Tapping Success on the Fadal!

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Did my first test of rigid tapping on the Fadal and it worked! Follow along with me as I show you what I did and how it turned out. See the links below for the manuals and other related videos that were referenced.
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Fadal Manuals (Thanks to FadalCNC):
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FadalCNC Website:
www.fadalcnc.com
FadalCNC manuals:
www.fadalcnc.com/tech-docs
Section 2 - M Codes:
www.fadalcnc.com/media/pdf/te...
Section 3 - G Codes:
www.fadalcnc.com/media/pdf/te...
Section 4 - Fixed Cycles (Use this to learn more about the tapping cycles):
www.fadalcnc.com/media/pdf/te...
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Videos on Fadals:
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FTP Setup on your Fadal for file transfer:
• Machine Memory - SD, U...
Can your Fadal rigid tap?
(How to check if your machine is setup to rigid tap):
• Can Your Fadal Rigid Tap?
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Fadal Facebook Group:
/ 1628752910692236
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  • @pvcrouter
    @pvcrouter4 жыл бұрын

    Nice machine. I have 2 of them. They are so close to a new machine in capability. The m5 is not needed before the rigid tap but ensures that the spindle is off. No a big deal if it is but a few seconds are lost as the spindle is turned off on g84.1. The dwell is not needed. Prior to center drill but no harm done. You will love this machine

  • @RJMachine62
    @RJMachine624 жыл бұрын

    Looks like you're making progress. It's nice to get the iron up and going and making stuff.

  • @b92555
    @b925554 жыл бұрын

    Fun to watch.

  • @igoregana9323
    @igoregana93233 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video but I have a little doubt. Do I have to use G43 and H2,H1 ... when the tool offset is negative. I created a program putting G43 and H to compensate the tool length. However, the tool didn't go to the position in Z that I had expected. Then I erase G43 and H from my program and It worked. My tool length are in negative so does it something to do with that??

  • @sshep7119
    @sshep71194 жыл бұрын

    There still are a few things you can do to your Fadal to increase it's ability. A simple pressure opening check valve at the coolant manifold will eliminate the constant flow of coolant after M9, one like this (www.mcmaster.com/7746k822). It opens under light pressure and closes after pressure drops. It really makes it nice to not have to deal with the coolant draining the feed hose, also it makes the coolant come on faster as it is less line to fill. Adding an a-blast function helps also, you can just plug it into the 110v coolant on/off outlet at the back, or you can go into the control cabinet and use M64/65 to activate a solenoid, you just need to add in the breaker and the fuse. Run some 3/16 or similar air line through the flex conduit and add a 110v solenoid to the bottom of the cabinet, then send that to an adjustable regulator on the pendent to control it. It helps when cutting with dry use carbide for applicable materials. A washdown hose is always a big plus, but just adding a "T" inline with the coolant pump doesn't create mush pressure. You can source a higher pressure pump and all the applicable parts on Ebay for about two to three hundred if you are patient. This is just a few things that can be done, there are A LOT of very effective but simple and cheap upgrades that you can do.

  • @RJMachine62
    @RJMachine624 жыл бұрын

    I typically keep my probe out of the tool changer. It sits in a holder and I insert it by hand when I need it. I always use last tool number in the table for the length offset for the probe. T48 I think. It keeps me from using a slot, and it also prevents a John Saunders moment where his Hamier explodes when the spindle fired up. Everyone has their own way tho...

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    ^^ This.... I do this, but because I was scarred back when I first got the machine. Before I found out the ATC wasn't totally aligned, I had it as tool #1 and then did a tool change to run, but because the ATC wasn't aligned, it was barely hanging on and when the carosuel rotated it dropped out and destroyed a probe tip.... LUCKILY, I've learned from other and already had a spare - so I didn't lose any time - just dignity. I've since fixed the ATC, and don't worry about tools falling out, but still don't want to put "my baby" back in there. XD!

  • @ianagos4276
    @ianagos42764 жыл бұрын

    I tap at 1000 rpm on my fadals for everything. Also for less money than that tap you can get proper quality taps on eBay. I like balax but they are a bit pricey. But on another note the dewalt stub length cobalt drills are very high quality. I recommend collet chucks and stub length split point drills unless you need the length. I usually don’t even bother spotting in aluminum. If you need recommendations for very cheap tooling and some other stuff like that look me up on the forum or Instagram and send me a message.

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll probably reach out or at the very least put out a data call on IG or FB. I’m sure everyone has their own preferences for tooling and I’d like to know what everyone has used and liked/not liked due to price, performance, etc. Thanks again!

  • @oscarjumanan9630
    @oscarjumanan96303 жыл бұрын

    You should use g83 which is peck drill

  • @trace12345678900
    @trace123456789004 жыл бұрын

    Use T36 for the Haimer so you don’t lose a tool pocket.

  • @mrAq_pA
    @mrAq_pA4 жыл бұрын

    is this a 20 TPI thread ?

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes! 1/4-20 thread

  • @mrAq_pA
    @mrAq_pA4 жыл бұрын

    I am a bit confused... did you use format1 or 2 (compatibility modes) ... since i am somehow missing info (explanation) about the parameters used to declare the TPI to the CNC... 20TPI has a 0,05 inch / turn (pitch)... yes u can esk the machine to go this deep and this RPM (S200) .. but what is the feed / turn.... Besd on the book u are in Format2 there u HAVE TO calculate the F (feed but here it is feed / revolution) Formula for F value is RPM / TPI 200/20 = 10 N3 X0 Y0 G84.1 Z-.5 S200 F10 We use METRIC in MODE1 , so there we use Q for the pitch..... like Q1.25 (1.25 mm / turn) in Format1 the Q is used for the TPI as well ... 1 / TPI ... so it would be 1/20 = F0.05

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    I use format 2 - everything (for me) is specified in Fusion and it just creates the G84.1 line of code. I don’t have to specify anything at the machine.... in regards to your federate question - it’s low, I think it was around 13 ipm during my test. It of course updates in Fusion when yo change the RPM - If you’ve got binoculars, you could probably see it in the video to make sure 😆

  • @mrAq_pA

    @mrAq_pA

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bgwmachine i know that the FUSION makes all the lines.... just to see that in the LINE where u have G84.1 u are binded to the S and F as a pair. So if you change either... the sync will be there but not for the 20TPI... so it will "drill" the hole instead of tapping :) :) FORMAT1 is more "simple" to spot the error if made - of course u have to do a small math but it is not binded to the S number as far as i know .....

  • @RJMachine62
    @RJMachine624 жыл бұрын

    Try doing just a CD instead of CD,10. If you set the default baud rate in setp then you don't have to specify it each time. It will save lots of typing after awhile :)

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    RJMachine that’s a great idea - didn’t even think about setting that as a default in the parameters. Thanks!

  • @oscarjumanan9630
    @oscarjumanan96303 жыл бұрын

    You should used G83 that is peck drill instead of drill cycle G81 and you went .625 deep you don’t want your drill to walk and use q.1 which will peck .1 every time until it reach z-.625 deep.hope I can help... on your G84.1 you should add Q.05 which is .250x20 inch .do the math 1 divided by 20 eguals Q.05 to identify the thread per inch..

  • @shaneclendennen522
    @shaneclendennen5224 жыл бұрын

    G98 goes back to you G43 height

  • @shaneclendennen522
    @shaneclendennen5224 жыл бұрын

    G99 goes to you R plane

  • @bgwmachine

    @bgwmachine

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Thanks for that, I did even think about going over that. 👍

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