Rhythm of War Part Five: The Ending | Discussion
Please enjoy the final part of my Rhythm of War Read Along series! In this set of videos, we have been discussing each of the five parts of the latest book in The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson.
Thank you for joining me in experiencing this fantastic book!
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"Journey Before Destination" was even more meaningful when Navani said it because those were the only words Elhokar couldn't say.
I cried when kaladin swore the 4th ideal. Beautiful moment
@MsAndrej26
3 жыл бұрын
I did too
@TheBlobabob
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I waited so long for that to happen. And with his Dad!!! EPIC
@ricardonunez3172
3 жыл бұрын
I feel you bro
@joaofarias9986
3 жыл бұрын
I did too. First scene in a book tô make me cry
@seotenin
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely
Kaladin vs the Pursuer showed that Kaladin is capable of being truly terrifying. That was nightmarish
@austa10
Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that he was able to beat him at a MASSIVE disadvantage!
@grunmn
Жыл бұрын
Lol when that was going down I was thinking of Goku hitting ultra instinct and jsir no fucks the power is here then he got savage lashed his body. Lashed his head. That was a brutal ass kill just slow head rip off and immense pain so the persuer knows he will have more. Bro but the end guess not lol
I loved that part about Dalinar being on team Kaladin Can't Die.
"Journey before destination, you bastard!" was so perfect. Moash not feeling was the epitome of taking yourself out of the journey, completely breaking the first ideal.
@seanphelan2618
3 жыл бұрын
Plus he cut off her son before he could say those exact words
@the.almost.book.doctor8326
3 жыл бұрын
It gave me Mrs. Weasley vibes from the Deathly Hallows. "Not my daughter, you bitch!" But I feel like it was just a bit more powerful because Navani is always this very composed woman.
@malcolmhodnett8874
3 жыл бұрын
@@the.almost.book.doctor8326 yoooooooo Mama Weasley spazzed and i got chills just remembering
***Spoilers for Mistborn at the end*** I loved how Cultivation beat everyone without ever showing her face. She did it in a way that was so true to her shard's essence. She planted seeds years ahead of time gifting Dalinar, Tarivangian, and Lift to encourage them to grow into exaclty who she needed them to become. She doesn't fight like a warrior but like a gardener. I also wonder whether she misjudged Taravangian, he is so much more terrifying than Rayse. I always felt that Odium seemed far too incompetent to be the big bad of the series, now we know why. It was all a set up for the real villain. This is just like in Mistborn when you think the emperor guy is bad until you discover Ruin. Sanderson at his best.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
That's so true, I love the way you described that!
@Draugo
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the ending made it pretty clear that Cultivation made a huge mistake. Also Brandon's reading of the sequel to Sixth of the Dusk gives possibly a clue to how things will go in book five based on the contract. At least that's what my mind assumed when the contract was finalized.
@joebaumann1083
3 жыл бұрын
No matter how "competent" the new Odium is I still think Wit tricked his ass at the end. Some way he knew and prepared for that meeting. Let's see if I'm right a decade from now. lol
@leovincent7417
3 жыл бұрын
@@joebaumann1083 I agree. Why else would he have that whole moment about misdirection and sleight of hand with the spren just before? I think the coins are metalminds. Or we are all wrong and this scene was just to show Todium is miles ahead and outwitted the wit himself.
@riley8385
3 жыл бұрын
I think Cultivation's move is going to backfire, unless she's playen the extremely-long game I don't see how Taravangian can be the main antagonist for 5 more books (even counting the 20 years timeskip between book 5 and 6).
Most powerful scene for me was when Kaladin found Teft body and completly broke down. Stood strong during the whole book but here i finally shed tears. Seeing him hit rock bottom that hurt!
@dhruveshpatel1109
3 жыл бұрын
*Hundred Discordant Rhythm* That description was so good.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely man, it broke me.
@HowdyItLovll
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, rock, like stone after he got transmuted
The 4th Ideal - I just can't handle it. I was pretty sure that was going to be the words based on his inability to say it in Oathbringer, but dang did that make it hit harder. "Can I lie to swear an ideal?" 😭😭
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I knowww 😭😫
@charlieherman5229
3 жыл бұрын
Just finished this one but I can’t remember, what was his issue in Oathbringer?
@maba5082
3 жыл бұрын
@@charlieherman5229 adolin and Elokhar and the singers and too many people he knew were fighting. Moash killed Elokhar because Kaladin couldn't save him. He couldn't say the words and could see too many sides to fight.
@charlieherman5229
3 жыл бұрын
@@maba5082 OOOHHH right that was the thing around killing sil. Got it
@topaznora2055
3 жыл бұрын
no, venly tried. and a voice told her " these words are NOT accepted"
Remember the time when in previous books the Stormfather kept warning about how strong the Bondsmith powers can be and how dangerous an Unchained Bondsmith is in the absence of Honor ?! Yeah turns out he was right. RIP to everyone if Ishar manages to survives past the next book.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Usually I'm like Dalinar thinking... pfff Stormfather, stop being so uptight for once! But that reveal had me thinking, oh, oh okay, might have to listen to him every once in a while, lol!
@CNNBlackmailSupport
3 жыл бұрын
That whole scene reminded me of a movie, I just don't remember what. Maybe the Matrix? Maybe a marvel movie? Its a scene where a bunch of bad guys are giving a dude a hard time, and he turns on the real skill and drops everyone. I feel like the guy knocks people out of their bodies and changes gravity on them maybe? Possibly iron man, where he uses the parts of his suit to tie bad guys together? It is right on the edge of my mind. Spiderman, maybe? Where he hits a bunch of guys with webs and hangs them or locks them down with fluid ease. Maybe it was Thanos in Endgame or Infinity war just wrecking the avengers on Titan. Possibly Donny Yen in IP Man. I feel like this is the one. He ties his enemies up seemingly without trying at all. He just puts them down like a bunch of over eager puppies. Damn, it will come to me at some point.
I love the hype that this part sets up for the next book. Never been more excited to wait for a sequel. The part of Taravangian ascending to Odium and messing around with Wit is just terrifying and such a "WTF, that doesn't look good, something has gone really wrong here" type of moment that I haven't seen in a Sanderson book since WoA.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Agree so much that it reminded me of the dread in WoA's ending! The set up for book 5 is just fantastic.
One of my favorite lines in this book: Navani to Moash: “Journey before destination, you bastard!” I was like HELL YEAH!!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Such a fist pumping moment!
Part 5 was just me crying tears of despair and subsequently joy in a cyclic pattern.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I feel this 😂
Man. You are so under rated. This is easily my favorite cosmere channel. I hope more people find their way here. Some of the other channels have great info as well but you come off as 100% genuine as well as knowledgeable. I hate when people pick apart and hate on these books and it's so refreshing to see someone that, like me, just sits and enjoys every single word and is just overjoyed to have new content. Like others here, I'd love to see you do more in depth videos about the greater cosmere connections between the different books. All in due time though. I have no doubt that you'll continue to grow your channel. You just exude positive energy in a world filled with toxicity. Oh and I'm loving the videos with your pop reading through stormlight. Keep up the good work!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you so much! This comment really made my day. I'm all about just sharing the enjoyment that this series (among others) give us fans. In depth videos will absolutely be happening and I assure you I'll be on my dad to make sure he keeps up to date with Stormlight ha! Thanks again man :)
@chrisrebouche179
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery Glad to hear it! Looking forward to more!
@andrewwhitacre9013
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Your enthusiasm is contagious. The proof is in the numbers.
@matthewsamson5802
3 жыл бұрын
Yep lid and rafo! He's hilarious
The cosmere is what the mcu wants to be
For some reason Tien's death remains the saddest death in the stormlight archive
@tannerweinheimer7839
8 ай бұрын
As a one-two punch between books 1 and 5 Tien is the most powerful cathartic arc. But its nature as a flashback played out in my mind as a kind of greyscale slow-motion shot. There was a sense of inevitability from the moment Kaladin is able to see Tien from across the battlefield that somehow, in my opinion, makes it easier to swallow. It happened in the past. As a reader you could see it coming. There was no chance of salvation. But Elhokar's death..... that was devastating. Seeing him struggling to fight through his wounds with so many surrounding enemies, you kinda brace yourself for someone important to die- but then you see him speaking the first ideal. You see a nearby spren ready to give him strength. You lower your guard and begin to hope. And then WHAM! It was all just a feint by Sando before the brutal, cold-blooded murder.
i cried like 2 times during this book... 1 was the Maya scene at the trial (i was listening to the audiobook and in that scene the performance was 11/10), those were tears of joy and then the Kaladin and Tien vision, there i cried like a freakin baby, especially when Kaladin says the words.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@NemisCassander
2 жыл бұрын
The Maya scene affected me far more than Kaladin's, for some reason.
I've been waiting for your discussion of Part 5.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So cool to see there’s Stormlight fans working on your channel 😊
Great wrap up! Man, I forgot how much was in this Part! The Jasnah/Wit relationship is so interesting. I couldn't tell if they were "involved" before (and was kind of hoping they weren't) but their dynamic is so unusual and somehow fitting. I loved the part where Kaladin is reunited with Syl and she just makes a beeline for him. I love that she's also recovering from her own struggles along with our boy. The fight with the Pursuer was mind-blowing, but terrifying to me, with Kal under the influence of Odium. I also just ate up how El called the Pursuer "Defeated One" at the end. Like he was just completely shut down and disgraced. (Also, is El being set up as the Big Bad for the next book?) Teft losing his spren was heartbreaking, but at least he didn't have to love without her... :( It was so tender to see their moments together before the end (painful foreshadowing in retrospect) Man, the scenes with Kal falling and the reunion with Teft. I was bawling. Heck, just listening to your recap made me tear up! Such a beautiful way to close that circle and give him some much-needed healing. I love how Rlain has come from a forgettable side character to become a major player in events. I was so pleasantly surprised at the twist that the weird cremling following him around was the spren waiting to bond him! I guess after "Dawnshard", I look much more suspiciously at every mention of a cremling... :| The part with Ishar trying to steal Dalinar's bond with the Stormfather?? 8-O And the spren experiments, sooooo damn creepy. The slow reveal in that part is terrifying. What the heck has he been up to? I agree, I loved the setup for Szeth in the next book. Sounds like we're going to hear much more about the Honorblades and Shin society. The conversation between Taravangian and Cultivation was awesome. Just mindblowing how his intelligence and emotions were a setup to take over the shard of Odium. Though it seems it may not all go according to plan. Can't wait to see how that plays out. I hadn't considered how that changes the stakes of the upcoming confrontation with Dalinar. Should be an incredible scene to read!! Leshwi is another super interesting, multi-faceted character. I am so intrigued by the Fused and their ambiguous motivations. It's cool to see how the Epilogues have shifted from "Wit witnessing important events" to "Wit being the center of important events". I had no idea he was going to become such a central player in this story. Thanks so much for making this such a fun experience to read along with you! Can't wait to watch your next lore videos. Maybe we'll all be back in 3 years for Book 5 :D
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for commenting your thoughts as the video ran along, I love reading these - It's almost like I'm getting your commentary video as well! Really appreciate you joining along for the read along mate, your comments were always super insightful and interesting to read :) I suspect we'll be back again in a few years doing it all over!
@philvogelfilms
3 жыл бұрын
Lost in Discovery thanks! It was so great to hear your thoughts in real time as the book unfolded 😃
@BinarySecond
3 жыл бұрын
Kal was influenced by Odium? I missed that on my first listen.
Hey man, you’re one of my fave, actually probably my fave, new channel I’ve discovered the last few weeks of Rhythm of War stuff. You’re excellent and I really want to tell you that your energy and enthusiasm and your simple and elegant content is truly great to watch. Thanks for the videos, and thanks for sharing in my excitement and many others.
@mercurydylan899
3 жыл бұрын
And yes absolutely, I have never cried about any book scene quite as much as that Kal and Tien moment together. It’s wrecked me.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man! That really means so much to me and I'm glad you enjoy the videos so much. Comments like this totally make my day :)
@TheGamemonkey505
3 жыл бұрын
200% agree with this
there are so many little things that stood out to me in the last part of this book. when kaladin goes into his frenzy he was described as erupting in a red-gold light reminiscent of something not revealed entirely as the sentence was cut off, navani learning to listen for the rhythms and understand them immediately as a singer would, raboniel and navani actually singing together to combine lights, raboniel turning on moash in the end and doing everything in her power to keep him from killing navani out of sheer respect and will to end the war, nightblood actually drinking rayse's investiture until they were full, deadeyes besides maya being implied to be recoverable, just so much stuff to think about. and I didn't put it together that thaidakar was who he was until you mentioned it and I am absolutely reeling at the implications of what that means considering exactly the kind of person he is and what he's capable of. I know this comment is super scattered and rambly but my head is spinning right now as I only finished the book a few hours ago
You are so likeable! I felt so warm and fuzzy listening to you gush about this book and express your gratitude for your audience
I have no words for this.... The diagram played out just fine for Taravangian! I had guessed that cultivation made him stupid for a reason and that was so satisfying see it play out. I did not expect him to BECOME ODIUM in the slightest. There is just too much to process here I read part 5 in 3 sittings and am shook and need to re-evaulte all I know Book 5 has such a great setup and I am beyond excited to see how this arc ends... J think we might get some main character carnage 😢
First, yes. YES. So much head exploding. Second, I would LOVE an in depth discussion of Thaidekar... And his whole thing.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I'll update myself on all the books regarding that whole thing and will gladly explore it more in a video :) Head exploding is always welcome in my fictional books!
@mblooze9057
3 жыл бұрын
Yasss!!
Can I just give a shout out to Dalinar for basically saving Kaladin. It was awesome how he did that and awesome how non-challant it was. Just Dalinar being Dalinar. Love that guy. Thanks for the videos. Love how it opens so many conversations in the comments. And love how authentic and easy going your channel is.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Dalinar is the best, I missed him a lot in this book. No worries man, I'm glad you're enjoying the vids!
@BinarySecond
3 жыл бұрын
And he did it as a bond Smith. Within his rules, without bending the storm father, just some of the cleanest bondsmith work he's executed in the series so far.
I absolutely understand being so excited that chronology goes out the window a little bit. Storms Christian! How do you speak so well about it all! You're a treasure to this fandom. And the fear induced from the epilogue is going to live in my head rent free for the next five years too...
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Lora! It was such a joy to read your comments on the read along videos after a long, crappy day. Much appreciated and hope to see you around the channel!
@loraz5343
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery Glad I could help! Your videos make me so happy because of the nerdy passion and excitement you have that flows through so consider it a happy payback. Tell me, do you still call the now truly terrifying Taravangian "your boy" anymore?
There were so many tears of sadness and joy, so many holy s!#% and WTF moments. And it all ended with chill down my spine! I’ve been in so much book mourning since then that I’ve been obsessively watching/listening podcasts and booktube videos nonstop. Seriously, I’ve discovered like a dozen more channels because of it!😂
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
100% man! Hahaha absolutely! I see you hanging in the comments of most Stormlight videos, which is awesome! Thanks for the continued support :)
I just finished the book and I just got to say Holy Freaking Crap! This book had like 10 different endings. I love the closure provided to all the characters, even Eshoni, I wasn’t expecting that one. And at the same time setting up so much for the next book. So many connections to Mistborn, Warbreaker, and even Elantris. Is Wit really storing memories (like a feruchemist) in his Breath (as in Warbreaker)? 🤯 This book could have ended at so many different spots but I’m glad it ended as it did. Very ominous. Ready for book 5 like right now!
I just love your videos. So glad I found your channel. I don’t have anyone to discuss fantasy books; as my friends are not into it. Thank you for your videos, the express all the different emotions I’ve experienced. You make me feel like you’re a good friend with whom I’m sharing my thoughts and feelings about this series. I love how I can listen to you and not feel overwhelmed with all the Cosmere connections. I have read 2 other stand alones by Sanderson; so when I watch other videos I feel like the kid who overslept during class, and doesn’t get all the inside jokes or the connections; which takes out the fun and just leaves me frustrated. Sorry for rambling... but you’re doing a great job. Love love your videos 💕
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so, so much! I loved your 'kid who overslept during class' analogy because I totally relate! When I was first reading Stormlight and was looking for content online I was pretty damn overwhelmed by all the connections and other series which were being sold to me as essential reading - it became a bit too much at the time. So yeah, with that in mind I try to keep my videos as viewer friendly as possible because not everyone has read all the Cosmere books (including myself, lol!) Don't apologise, comments like this are so nice to read. Thank you again :)
Watched the other videos yesterday, and you already have the next one? Well done, dude ! =D
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking them all out!!
I absolutely love how much enthusiasm and emotion you bring to this conversation. Watching you relive moments of the book in such an authentically human way makes it come to life even more for me. You deserve to have your channel go huge. 🥰
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Have finally finished so I can see your reaction and how similar your thoughts on Kaladin were to my own. His arc was just amazing but the Navani and Rabonial chapters were good as well.
I loved the ending with Wit! But I do think Sanderson is playing it to seem more ambiguous. I went back and read it with both interpretations in mind, and I think they both have merit. I think Sanderson is going to keep this ambiguity for as long as he can (and torture us lol).
I am really not one for commenting but I just have to say that I've really enjoyed your videos. Your enthusiasm mirrors mine (and my son's, who got me into Sanderson to begin with!), so it's just loads of fun to watch. I also appreciate the sprinkling of fan art throughout your videos. TBH I only listened to the first four while I did chores, but now I'll need to go back and rewatch to catch all the other art! Great job and thank you for prolonging the joy of reading this book!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment, this was so nice to hear! It's cool to hear you listened to these audio-only and they still held up alright, lol! The fan art for this series is so amazing, I try to add as much as I can in my videos so I'm glad you enjoyed :) Also, your son is a legend - I know what it's like getting a parent into Sanderson haha!
Excellent video, Christian. I really love your joy and passion about these books. That whole ending just blew my mind, and I'm definitely going to need a reread. I'm reading Secret History again now, really enjoying it with some new insights. I'm so glad you finished with RoW, because I was really looking forward to your reaction. I've been underwhelmed by a lot of other booktubers reactions, and yours really summed up a lot of my feelings about the book. I know I'm going to be in the distinct minority here, but I read the First Law trilogy and really didn't like it that much. It was engaging enough to keep me reading it, but I just didn't have any strong feelings about it one way or another. It was just kinda "meh" to me. I'm sure I'll give it a reread at some point, but I'm much more interested in Cosmere and Wheel of Time than anything in First Law. Thanks as always for a great recap and reactions video. Looking forward to more lore and theory videos! I'm gonna hype your channel in a few fandom groups I'm in and hopefully build up your subscriber numbers for you. You're so genuine and fun to watch, I really thing you should have a bigger following. Thanks again!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you could connect with my feelings on the ending man! I respect the opinions of others who weren't as blown away by this book as I was but I really cannot hide the excitement this final part gave me! Oh okay, that's cool to hear a different angle of First Law. For me, what made me fall in love with fantasy again was A Song of Ice and Fire so based on that alone, I think at the very least I'll enjoy the character work in FIrst Law, so we'll see. (Don't worry, Cosmere and SA videos will still be happening :)) Thanks so much for the kind words mate and sharing the channel in other domains, that really means the world to me!
What scares me, is that the other time we've seen memories stored in investiture, we saw that shards are capable of much more than just deleting those memories...
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
The implications of Taravangian's new powers are so scary. Your comment has got me intrigued.. I don't believe I've read the moment where something like that has happened in the Cosmere but I'll for sure be keeping my eye out for it now.
@covya
3 жыл бұрын
I THINK you have, judging by other comments, but I don't want to provide any reminders in case I am mistaken, as it is a major plot point :P
@thedoc4114
3 жыл бұрын
From what book though? I don’t remember that ether
Kaladin is a beast. He bested the Pursuer multiple times in that fight when he had access to only 1 of his surges and wouldn’t have been able to heal himself if he had been badly wounded. The thing that really got me about Kaladin jumping off the roof of Urithiru was when Dalinar and the Stormfather were watching him fall and Dalinar thinks “It wasn’t the bearing of a man who was fighting. Nor was it the bearing of someone who rode the winds. It was the bearing of someone who had given up.” Ugh. Punch to the gut. Kaladin’s vision with Tien and Teft’s death both made me cry. Love Teft ♥️ I was a little underwhelmed by Shallan’s conversation with Mraize to be honest because he has been built up to be a mysterious and frightening person whom you don’t want to mess with. But Shallan just makes him look like a chump. It kind of took some of the impact of his character away for me. I hope he is able to do something big in book 5. I feel like too much needs to happen for the story to wrap up in 10 days! I really enjoyed that whole section with Ishar. I had a feeling Kaladin would end up getting involved with helping heal the broken minds of the Heralds. I really hope he can help Taln specifically. After seeing what an effortlessly lethal fighter Ishar is with the Bondsmith Honorblade and then the Stormfather says Ishar is an average fighter compared to the other Heralds, but Taln is by far the best. Damn. If a sane Taln could get hold of that Honorblade and end up being Dalinar’s champion, that would be nuts. But again, his brain won’t be fixed in 10 days! I’m assuming Dalinar will somehow fight with that blade. But can he fight with an Honorblade if he is bonded to the Stormfather? I don’t think so. I’m assuming Taravangian still looks like Rayse because Wit called him Rayse and didn’t seem to think Odium looked at all different, just that he acted different. I thought Odium had just taken Taravangian’s body but he still has Taravangian’s mind so I’m not sure how this works. Does Odium just give you his strength and desires but you still stay yourself as well? Couldn’t quite wrap my head around that. Kaladin using his shard plate to shield others, Leshwi abandoning Odium and fighting for the Radiants, The Sibling being restored, Moash going blind, Rlain bonding a spren. So many great moments. Can’t wait for book 5 ♥️
I need a scene where Kaladin lends Adolin his sentient shardplate just to even his friends odds in the battlefield
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
That would be epic.
weirdly enough Eshonais section at the end made me cry the hardest
@pranjanarahangdale9629
Жыл бұрын
Same !!! It was so sad but we needed that closure.
Rebonial was a true gem indeed. I am about to dive into Rythm for the second time now and I had to laugh about what you said: 'I was reading so fast', since that is really how I read as well.. I am going to do a listening book + reading it combo, probably the last chapter with Graphic Audio, since I wont miss to much than😅 Soo soo sooooo hyped to see how it will all go in the next book!!
I really enjoyed your video series about Rhythm. I love you talk about everything in such a kind way :) I really loved this book as well ^^
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
My goodness what an ending. I had to read the last couple of chapters and the epilogue to be sure I was reading it right!!! Oh my gosh, brilliantly terrifying!!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
It was incredible!!
I've been looking forward to this video! I just finished the book again and saw that you uploaded a new video. So much was going on in this last part that was just amazing.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Yeah man, it was pure insanity those last 200 pages!
I cried a lot, not because I thought Kaladin was going to die I cried because (for a moment) I thought Syl was leaving him/dying or something. And it broke my heart. Then the way she came back was so beautiful and I love the two of them together.
I cried so much during part five (especially with Kaladin's chapters); such an amazing end to the book.
I had a thought about one of the consequences on Taravangian's ascension. Sja-anet was afraid of what odium would do to her if he knew her plans. Taravangian knows her plans as she assisted him in drawing odium's attention. Did she fear the plans of Raize or the desires of the shard and how will Taravangian respond?
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, a great question! I suppose the only answer Sanderson would give us is RAFO, lol!
@carlsmith4568
3 жыл бұрын
I think Taravangian will be much more open to input from the beings around him. Rayse didn't like any opposition, but Taravangian is smarter than that.
@terryschmitt8050
3 жыл бұрын
@@carlsmith4568 it will be interesting to see what the shard wants. Syl made it sound like it's the hate of god while Rayse called it passion. Regardless, it seems like the part of Adolnasium that desires revenge. Oddly enough, that set Rayse against his coconspirators, filling him with the desire to destroy those that caused the shattering and those that would stand in his way. Taravangian was prepared for the shard through the diagram and accepting the need to destroy all, even his friends and innocent children, who would stand in its way. Does the shard seek the destruction of the other shards, or was that powered by Rayse's knowledge of the shattering? Is jealousy in Passion's portfolio and will that fuel the need to either assume or destroy the other shards. Taravangian did seek to become the supreme ruler over all Roshar. Will be follow that path with the whole Cosmere?
@mblooze9057
3 жыл бұрын
When did this happen between Taravangian and Sja-Anet, again? Awesome observation.
@terryschmitt8050
3 жыл бұрын
@@mblooze9057 interlude 12. I'm trying to remember all the details (audiobooks are easier to fit into my busy life but harder to reference and study). Sja-anet visits Taravangian and agrees to give him a way to summon Odium. Later, Renarin gives him captured tainted spren that can draw Odium's attention. When Szeth comes, he breaks the gems, releasing the spren and drawing Odium. I think the interlude started with T looking for Sj and she was surprised he knew how to look for her.
The new Odeum and what he did to Wit was so dope!
The craziest, best, and the most epic book I have ever read. Probably the most epic piece of media/entertainment I have ever consumed.
I’m a man and can admit I cried like a baby during the vision and Kal swearing the 4th ideal.
I was wondering about that scene with Tien. In all the other visions Dalinar gave, the people in it were playing their part in the story. Kaladin was having a full on conversation with Tien and Tien was already aware that he was killed. Is it possible he is in the spiritual realm or could be a cognitive shadow and that Kaladin was actually speaking with him? Or is it just a result of the bond between Kal and Dalinar coming to fruition?
@Jim_boe
2 жыл бұрын
later down the line I think Stormfather remarked on that by calling it a type of bond
"Harsher, Wit."
I'm subscribed. I really love your work and how confidently you speak, even with your love and devotion to the books and the material...and so HONESTLY how you talk about something you admire! Keep it up! Only complaint is the weird hissing in the background as you speak like a white noise. But otherwise, really great!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! The weird hissing is due to my crappy mic. Hoping to improve my audio quality very soon :)
I feel so heartbroken (for now) after knowing who Thaidakar is... IDK man, this changes things, I thought I knew that character a bit, but it seems I have a lot of reread to do...
@vincentvalenzuela5718
3 жыл бұрын
I was so sure Thaidakar and the Ghostbloods were a dark, deepweb mafia-like villain group until I found out who he was
@sanan.chaudhry
3 жыл бұрын
@@vincentvalenzuela5718 im too curious lmfao, who is he?
@vincentvalenzuela5718
3 жыл бұрын
@@sanan.chaudhry dont want to spoil too much so all I'm gonna say is he used to be from Scadrial Era 1
@minchoazar2732
2 жыл бұрын
in which chapter did u find out about who he is?? i need to re-read it lol
@Juanpa_SC
2 жыл бұрын
@@minchoazar2732 oh man... Hmmm, I dont have the book with me rn, but I´m gonna try to remember. Since you said "re-read" then I hope I wont spoil anything. Thaidakar´s identity is revealed during Shallan´s and Mraize´s conversation in Lasting Integrity, towards the end of the book, if I remember correctly. His (Thaidakar´s) name is not explicitly stated, but it is hinted in such a way that it will make you remember a character you might have read before (if you are a Cosmere enthusiast).
Hearing you gush about this series make me so excited knowing there are others out there who feel similar to me. Side note, Shallan's first spren...hmmm....I wonder if she could potentially restore that cryptic? Will Maya eventually get fully restored through Adolin? I hope so!
I loved the way sanderson made odium scary again. Raize was defeated twice in a short period of time. No longer a good bad guy. He is now expected to lose. Having a new man at the helm though im so stoked to see what sanderson does. I wonder if we may not see a full uniting of roshar. We know that sanderson is setting up for galactic scale. We saw our first glimpse of faster than light movement in lost metal. Maybe book five will be more a cold war. Maybe odium and honor will merge. I feel like we have to get more shards coming together as i cant imagine that the cosmre does not end with the reforging of Ado. Book 5 cant come soon enough
I volunteer at a cat sanctuary and when one of my favorites was dying, I listened to chapter where Kaladin swears the 4th ideal like half a dozen times with her on my lap.
Kal talking with Tien… broke my heart but also filled it at the same time, beautiful
Love Brandon's little nods to things that he loves; the pursuer from dark souls 2 and blackthorn from shogun, so good.
About the chasmfiend i think that is the same With Rlain Spren "controling" that bugcrabthingnamethadonotremember... Well thanks for all the content to this point! Just one last book before the First half of the destination. 😭😭🦀🦀🦀🦀🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yes! RoW set everything for book 6 flawlessly, the hype!!
Shallan is going to Scadrial to fetch some gunpowder and atium for the final showdown.
@andrew_ray
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, that might be difficult. Atium pretty much exists only in legends at this point. In fact, I'm only aware of one being who has any at all, and he seems unlikely to part willingly with it.
yes yes yes i agree with you on literally everything you said. On the Taravangian front, I was taken back to an epigraph from Harmony saying that Odium is not that big a deal bc Rayse is something they can deal with. We should fear a Vessel for Odium who is worse than Rayse. Welp, here we are Also yes Thaidakar's um identity had. me. screaming. Was sending all caps messages until my fingers bled. It also made me think about what Ishar was doing. Could that um help Thaidakar achieve what he wanted? I am afeared
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
It seems like what Ishar is doing might actually help our old mate Thaidakar but damn, I think it needs to go through some major quality control testing first 😆
"What are you doing?" "Connecting him!" "With WHAT?"
I came here just because part 5 blew my mind, and then I found out that you're starting First Law, which I just started as well. Subscribed so fast dude. Keep doing you, I like that you put so much genuine emotion into the video. Very cool. Thank you!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah man! Thank you for subbing :)
Totally right. At the end of the book with Wit getting his memory taken by Tarivangian scared the heck out of me. Just a whole new game and only Tarivangian is playing it or even knows it exists. What have you done Cultivation? I Love her character how she played the long game and sets everything up to kill Rsyese. I think we all know though, she might have killed the one who was after her life and also got some revenge for Hornor, but she just introduce something much worse to the world that Rsyese ever was.
I don't think Dalinar is looking for another perspective, so much as a challenge to his ideas. Think of his book like an army of ideas. Each one must be tested against an opponent that wants to destroy them, and only when the dust settles can you determine who remains standing unbroken. It fits his mindset and personality. He has always sought out the strongest opponent in battle, and Jasnah is the strongest mind on the planet. If she can't break his ideas down, they must be unbreakable. Dalinar's book is a sword forged using a lifetime of knowledge. He wants to see if his blade will crack and shatter when used against the armor from a legendary armorsmith.
Honestly, despite all the crazy important action scenes in this section; my favorite chapter was Dabid’s chapter, it just felt real
I've seen a lot of commentators not especially love Wit and Jasnah. But it makes sense to me. Jasnah has exactly one intellectual equal on Roshar, and none when Wit world hops away. She has the stature of a queen, but it must be noted that THAT ISN'T ENOUGH. She's already begun reforms, as if she intends to bring about 400 years of liberalization single handedly. That is much closer to the scale of action that Wit could consider than any other mortal on Roshar except the max-brilliance Taravangian that created the Diagram. If she has romantic inclinations at all, Wit IS the worthiest figure on the planet. Especially since he has understood her long before Radiants became commonplace again. F--- Moash. The Pursuer was a fantastic 1-off villain but I'm glad he died for real at the end. Kaladin came genuinely close to giving in to Odium and I believe that if Moash hadn't been driven off by his anti-lighteyes passion (or is it a Passion?) he would have broken Kaladin for good. Even if Kaladin had begun to stand up and recover, the immediate death of Lirin would have left him desperate to die or, more likely, ready and willing to accept Odium's offer to take his pain. Raboniel best girl? Raboniel best girl. #NavaniKholinisbestKholin I loved the look at the Listeners, and I'm very very into the promise we've gotten of Listener Radiants. R'lai as a Truthwatcher is soooo right. 10 days. Taravangian is terrifying, WAY scarier than Rayse. Because he believes he is right. And he is clever and devious. Anyone expecting Todium's champion to be a defenseless child? Or somehow be Elhokar's son? Taravangian is a really wonderful villain, because he is Dalinar's true philosophical counter. Odium will either not be a back-5 villain, or he will be a Cosmere-wide threat to a degree never before seen. But I trust Cultivation. Wit and Taravangian. Oh boy. I think Wit got played, but Wit isn't the story teller. Sanderson is. Whatever happened to Wit is the way that Odium is going to be broken, if he is. I love Nightblood so much. So many things have pointed at Nightblood being the most powerful item in the Cosmere by some serious measure. It CASUALLY kills a Shard vessel. Nothing like that has been shown before. Like, at all. The Bondsmith scene though... Yikes. Book 5 is going to be crazier and more intense than anything we've seen so far. (I won't say it since you didn't, but he's back! Its crazy and weird and Thaidakar is going to be terrifying.)
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
This comment was the best! I really agree with everything you've said here and somehow you've managed to up my hype for book 5. SO many mind-blowing moments hey? We've got to pace ourselves, there's still 3 years to go lol!
@mblooze9057
3 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that the contract included a line about consent. "we each send a willing champion." Maybe someone could be tricked or manipulated into it? but I don't take it that way. Guess we'll see!! Love your insights. Taravangian as Odium is seriously terrifying but is gonna be awesome!
@TheFrdw
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think Jasnah will uncover that Wit has lost his memories and not tell him? I could see her piecing together the fact that Taravangian is Odium and giving Dalinar an edge in the contest of champions
This video is exactly what I needed after finishing Rhythm of War. Thank you!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
No worries mate!
I loved your videos! Thanks for being so positive and just enjoying the book! What a great ride!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for joining the read along! It was awesome hey?
@1994abh
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery yup. Need to read it again, but I think I might take a break first and join you for the first law
So many awesome, impactful moments! Ishar was one I didn't expect! I knew he'd be crazy but just how much and the kind of things he was doing. Like he almost stole Dalinar's bond to the Stormfather! What? Nightblood was very good to have nearby! Taravangian taking up Odium was another mind blowing scene. He had set up to have Nightblood there and I thought he would kill Rayse but then didn't think of him taking the power. And at the end with Wit that was frightening! I have seen some people theorize that Wit had more backups for him memories like in the coin he was flipping as a metalmind. I can see that as a possibility that Wit was pretending to be fooled but I can see it the other way too which is terrifying!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Ooo, the coin being a metalmind is a take I haven't seen before, that's interesting! I was like you, okay Taravangian is going to kill Rayse, wait...what!? He's taking the Shard!? I lost it!
@tanyam928
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery I don't know if he has fuerechemy but he could have put memories in some Breathes and then put them in something like the coin. That would be a cool twist and I think Hoid is someone that is paranoid and would have contingencies in place. Although Rayse being replaced is a hard one to foresee happening and plan for lol
@mblooze9057
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... The coins kind of stood out to me too. Awesome observation. Oh my God!! I was also totally shocked by that chapter with Ishar. Not what I was expecting at all. Even though we know the Heralds are nuts I think we all wanted to (and kind of did) believe Ishar was going to be a game changer for Dalinar's powers. Whelp... Guess he still could be!
Just found your channel. Not sure you are still on at this point but i have to say you could play Hoid! So cool man!
Instead of the Manhattan Project, RoW gave us the Urithiru Project.
Dabbid wanting a spren so he can be normal fucking killed me dude
Teft's death was so painful. Like I had not felt like that for any other character in a book. Kaladin would have not become the hero he is without the grouchy Teft by his side.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, I know. It stills hurts to think about.
Think about this... Ren set Taravangian up for this. That means Ren knew what would happen if those two gems were broken, AND Saja-Anat(spelling) is working with Cultivation. Those two gems were the two (of 3) saja-anat warped spren that Rayse/Odium was actively searching for. Breaking the gems drew Odium to Taravangian. Renarin knew Szeth would be there with nightblood. It was a freaking trap and Renarin knew it was going to happen when the gems were broken, that szeth would be there with nightblood to break them, and that Taravangian would have to take up the mantle of Odium.
Just came across your channel today and watched all your RoW Discussions one after another. Loved to hear your thoughts and pure enjoyment of the story. Was just like reliving this incredible read once more! Thank you for your great videos! Now I'll watch some more and I am also hyped for more of your in depth videos to come! You just gained a new subscriber! Thank you very much again!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, thank you so much for watching the series! This was such a nice comment to wake up to, really appreciate you subscribing 😊
Immediately after seeing Taravangodium talking to Cultivation, what were your thoughts? Most people seem to fall into the 'Cultivation made a boo-boo' camp. I think she has not only achieved revenge by orchestrating the death of the one who killed her husband/lover, but she will also succeed in cultivating a very strong ally in Taravangodium, and I'm speculating now but I think the 'Contest of Champions' will become a moot point. I expect Dalinar to fight alongside both Gods willingly, not as friends, but as allies of necessity. I expect book 5 will quickly end the Rosharan War and begin the Cosmere War.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I felt like she mightn’t have anticipated the more sinister side of Taravangian but the scene was so brief it’s hard to say. I think you’re correct that the later half of the series will definitely lead into a Cosmere scale war (which would be amazing!)
@sirgog
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery I think she probably knows exactly who she is dealing with - and is quite willing to cut a deal with anyone. Both for revenge against Rayse, and for the wars to come.
Great videos Christian. It's great to see people passionate about books. The whole arc with Kaladin in this book, reaching back to book one, was amazing. I was a bit worried for a few minutes that he was going to take the same path as Moash, but instead he swears the fourth ideal! I'm really glad Shallan did not go through with killing Kalak; I think I would have checked out on her if that had happened. Loved the parts with Dabbid and Rlain. I totally agree with you on Rabonial. She was a great character that made you want to pull for her even though she was supposed to be a villain. Was the drop about Odium being the one to get people to use lashings new? I haven't read the first 3 books in a while. Overall, really enjoyed ROW and now the long wait for book 5. I'm currently reading Warbreaker so I might have to go on a re-read of Stormlight and Mistbord after that. Looking forward to your next video.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! There were so many amazing moments in this part, right? Hmm I think that may have been new information with Odium but I suspect it is probably mentioned in a sentence hidden in The Way of Kings somewhere lol! These books have a habit of doing things like that.. Enjoy Warbreaker! I think you'll notice a connection to Stormlight almost right away there :)
I agree that how we saw Eshonaibgo was unfair. ROW really cleared that up but while I was surfing 17th shard I saw a discussion about how stormform affected her. Appearently it is a lot like game of thrones but I think it would be so cool to see what you can pick out of the WOBs about Eshonai in a separate video. (By the way I have never read or watched game of thrones but people who have saw the connection with Eshonai.)
Gosh. What an epic book - this book was so rich, and set up sooo much for the future!! My cry-my-eyes out moments were Maya (yaaayyy!!!💖) , and The Kaladin/storm scene in part 5. Oof. Just, wow. I'm actually really stressed to think about the Wit implications, and it's so exciting I did NOT foresee the Taravangian arc, AT ALL, arghh!! My poor brain Stormlight has been my absolute favourite series since the moment I saw Way of Kings on the New Release stand at my old bookshop...I just knew it was something special! If you've not listened to Graphic Audio's version of the audiobook, please do it!! Such immersion! Btw, it's such a good feeling, the way all us 'SanderFans' talk so excitedly about the series 😊
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for joining the read along! Honestly I’m still not over this ending, I’ll check out the graphic audio :)
Few things "Confident and somehow still full of hope, Teft died." That moment and that line is so powerful that even though I've finished the book three weeks ago, it still makes me cry when I think about it. Second, I don't know if you noticed or not but it was said in the endnote that keteks written by singers have more focus on the last part. Same as so much things happen in part 5. This book had so much weightage on part 5 when it comes to major events. And I think that detail is cool. Then a question for you, I thought you had only read Mistborn era 1. So if you haven't read Secret History how did you pick up on Thaidakar's identity? Lastly, I just finished The Last Argument of Kings few days ago. And Abercrombie has become my most favourite author along with Sanderson. Can't wait for your thoughts on the First Law books. Cheers!!
@stevealexander1041
3 жыл бұрын
For me, "Lord of Scars" was enough to make the connection.
@dhruveshpatel1109
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevealexander1041 I mean, yes that's probably enough but if you haven't read Era 2 or Secret History, you don't know that Kelsier is alive and has become a cognitive shadow. So, your thoughts won't go directly for him I suppose.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
That is a really cool detail you've mention there and that's surely intentional by Sanderson I bet! SPOILERS FOR OTHER COSMERE SERIES BELOW . . . . Now as for the Thaidakar reveal, the whole 'Lord of Scars' made my ears perk up and sadly I've had the general jist/idea of Secret History and what happens with Kelsier spoiled for me. So yeah, that alone was enough to connect the dots. It was a little unsatisfying that I hadn't actually read those additional books beforehand but I'm obviously eager to jump right in with them. Pumped to get into FIrst Law and your thoughts have excited me even more :) Thanks for the great comments as always mate!
@johnaucamp7106
3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I can't entirely wrap my head around Kelsier running the Ghost Bloods. I know he survived and all that, but the Ghost Bloods always came across as dangerous and villainous. Admittedly Kelsier was always a morally grey character, but I assumed after Mistborn Secret History, and his helping the Southern Scadrians survive the post-Catacendre climate, that he was now more morally good. Running the Ghost Bloods, trying to seize investiture for fun and profit and employing dangerous sociopaths like Iyatl and Mraize seem to imply my view on him becoming less grey was wrong. I can't see Kelsier condoning putting Lift in a cage, for instance, and essentially selling her to the Singers. Will have to see how Sanderson plays this, but yeah.
Thank you! Your insight helps me pull everything together.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
No worries! Glad it helped!
Great video and analysis. Keep up the good work.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I just finished the book. Wow guys one thing caught my attention, when Teft was given a statue burial, how many dead people were statue-fyed and swordmaster Zahel had some statues, he could start The Rumbling with his breath.
I finally finished the book, and I'm amazed. After thinking about Taravangian's epic scene for a while I wondered if the shard of Honor could ever be also taken by someone in the future? Maybe similar to how it was in Scadrial
Did you catch in the epigraph from harmony to wit, that harmony warns wit the following. It’s a foreshadowing that raise would be replaced. "In truth, it would be a combination of a Vessel’s craftiness and the power’s Intent that we should fear most." So in reality, things just got much much worse for our friends on roshar. The power corrupts, and terrivangians craftiness and capability make him a very dangerous foe.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I did! So damn cool and worrying for the future of Roshar.
The epilogue was just WILD. So do you think Cultivation underestimated Tarangvian or do you think she knows exactly what she's doing? I hope we learn more about her plans and what it means being a dragon in the next book, I can't wait
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
My brain was absolutely overloaded at that point but in the moment I felt Cultivation come across a little wary of Taravangian, as if she didn't expect the kind of ecstasy he was feeling as he took up the Shard. I suppose we will read and find out and just like you, I can't wait!
@mblooze9057
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I could totally see it going either way. No matter, I think Sanderson is seriously going to toy with our emotions....Can't wait.
@dracorim6370
3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that Cultivation has more to her plans because we've seen Dalinar and Taravangian's parts in her plans but not Lift who was another character she has been messing with using the Old Magic.
Damn, I didn't pick up on Thaidakars identity at all. Don't know if I was thrown of by the Sel connection also revealed in that chapter. It's also been a while since I've read the relevant material so it wasn't really on the top of my mind.
I really love your videos! Your perspective is so fresh and real. I watch and like many other reviewers of RoW too but you convey things more as a fellow reader just having a chat and not so critical of the minor things. I love this! I hope you don't mind that opinion :) There are a couple of points that I have not heard anyone talk about. Maybe these are so obvious to others but I wanted to get some people's ideas to see if I'm on the right track. Why did all the dead eyes show up in Shadesmar? Was this a timing thing. Or was Maya somehow able to send a telepathic beacon of hope to them? Or could they sense change coming. Are all the new deadeyes due to Ishar's experiments? This seems obvious to me, but no one has talked about it so I wondered if I have this wrong.
@fireymissile
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that the deadeyes came about because of Ishar's experiments. They started appearing after the Recreance. For Ishar's experiments to be the cause, it must mean that he would have started these experiments around the time of the Recreance. That doesn't seem to be the case though, since he'd definitely have made much progress since then. Although it is a possibility. If that turns out to be true, then that would be truly horrifying.
@Rachelsjourney
3 жыл бұрын
@@fireymissile Right. I was referring to the "new" deadeyes that are being created (based on the market scene where the spren was recently turned into a deadeye). So it is only these "new" deadeyes that I think Ishar is creating. And then the others...all the existing deadeyes have been existing throughout shadesmar for ages all over the place (even at the bottom of the ocean) but suddenly there is now a crowd on them at Lasting Integrity (did I get that name right.)
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Yeah I totally appreciate some critical takes but I mainly just want to share my enjoyment with everyone so it's great to hear that from you :) As for the deadeyes I feel like this is totally going to be expanded upon in book 5. As I read it I got the impression they were in support of Maja but I suspect it's a lot deeper than that. The connection to Ishar does seem super obvious now and I didn't even connect those dots! Nice observation!
@nizalnm
3 жыл бұрын
My impression is that the unfortunate sprens ending up on ishar's operating tables got yanked wholly out of the Cognitive Realm, and thus them being dead there is likely true death (albeit with a carcass left behind, unlike a voidlight-caused annihilation), instead of the body just being a physical realm manifestation with their cognitive self becoming dead eyes. Narratively it feels more horrific this way rather the more hopefully recoverable state of being dead eyes.
I'm a straight guy so I might be way off base here so anyone feel free to correct me, but I felt that Brandon did an Asexual character perfectly in the sense that I never even really realized it until mentioned in this video. Not being overtly in the readers face about a characters sexuality yet still leaving these subtle ways of letting the readers who may identify with her know. Really cool character excited to see her and Hoid ( my personal favorite ) evolve their relationship.
My theory is that Eshonai is the connection to the chasm fiends. Because her death happened when she was invested
I just wanted to say when Kaladin fell to save Lirin it is like an image from a movie where the MC grows up finally and when jumps off the building discovering his powers and that shot he is not falling, he is rising and that is what I envisioned in this. It was not the fall to his death, but the rise of him and he has become radiant and says the fourth ideal.
🤚I CRIED so much!!
Raboniel and Taravangian are two of the best villains in all of media Imo!
I have a theory : possible spoilers for the next Stormlight Archive. Dalinar may ascend to become the new Honor, but it won't happen for some reason. Instead, it will be Kaladin. Why? Because I want it to be Kaladin but Dalinar makes more sense in terms of his arc.
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
I could definitely see that being the end of Kaladin's arc for sure. I'd really love that!
@johnaucamp7106
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery Kaladin certainly would be a more pro-active Honor, and Dalinar would be a more stable Honor. Either would work, but I would put my money on Kaladin because Sanderson likes his twists.
@crazy4cairns
3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea. I was thinking along the same lines with Dalinar.
Man you should really watch/read One piece. After discovering your channel and watching a bunch of videos listening to you talk about all the things you love about the Stormlight Archive I can't help but think you would love OP. It's got all of the fantastic world building and detail plus a crazy amount of forethought going into the overall story. I'd honesltly bet you a hundred bucks you would love it haha. Anyway your videos are great, its nice hearing all these connections I've been nebulously aware of laid out so concisely!
@LostinDiscovery
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much dude! I've been recommended One Piece a few times! I should really end up checking it out. It's up to like chapter 1000 now right?
@caseycollinson1429
3 жыл бұрын
@@LostinDiscovery There's a reason its the most popular manga ever! Its a hard one to recommend though cause yeah its up to 1000 chapters now lol
I think I'm the only fan who doesn't dislike Lirin. Probably because I can respect his point of view to a certain extent. Plus his development is just great.
@Sumwhatt
3 жыл бұрын
I've always liked Lirin too. I feel like in so many other fantasy books I have read, there is this common trope of the main character being orphaned or at least having one parent. Even having villainous parents is a thing that isn't unusual. I feel like it's convenient for why the main character has trauma and little guidance so they can be easily swept up into the fantastical without much consequence. Lirin is kind of unexplored territory for so many readers, like how is a father of a young adult who is single handedly flipping the world on its head supposed to act? He has a baby that he would like to raise in peace and a wife that he would like to protect from violence and a profession that plays in to much to his personal values. He is written so well
Because the next book is the ending of first half of Stormlight Archive and it will most likely have both huge cosmere revelations as well as implications I'm assuming that the duel (if it actually happens) is the culmination of the first or second section and the rest is dealing with fallout, possibly dealing with all the worldhoppers gathering on Roshar.
This was the biggest sanderlanche of the SA so far, IMO. Just insane
If you found Teft's death tragic from the book, I have just the thing for you. Go on KZread, search up "Ilsa Olson" and watch her Teft animatic. It. Is. Heartbreaking. *[EDIT]* If you found Kaladin's scene awesome, watch Ilsa Olson's "Meet Me On the Battlefield" animatic. Her best work yet, I think.