No one can hate you more than someone who used to love you.

@zahzahmasterchi

29 күн бұрын

Mmmhmm

Just give a raise to whomever thought about making this two such close friends in the show. Makes the whole story way more tragic *chef kiss*

"I want to fly with you on dragonback, see the great wonders across the Narrow Sea, and eat only cake." ~ Rhaenyra Targaryen to Alicent Hightower

For those people who continually say how Alicent wasn't a true friend for lying to Rhaenyra and blames her for marrying her father and usurping her throne yet overlooks Viserys, a grown man who literally CHOSE to marry his daughter's best friend who was a teenage girl (because that's what she was) clearly has double standards. But sure let's blame Alicent instead of the grown men (Viserys and Otto) for this whole mess starting. 🥴

@Lea-ke2rw

Ай бұрын

I don’t blame her for that, but i do blame adult Alicent for mentally abusing Rhaenyra for 10 years among other things. And before you come for me, showrunners and actors talked about this in articles before.

@asiamarques4341

Ай бұрын

​@@Lea-ke2rw Right and Daemon groomed Rhaenyra since childhood among other things. Yet he's not held accountable for his actions or criticized compared to Alicent (particularly within the HotD fandom).

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@Lea-ke2rw where did they say it was mental abuse?

@nevermind3013

Ай бұрын

​@@Lea-ke2rw how was alicent even in a position to "abuse" rhaenyra. rhaenyra held more power at court as well as the favour of the king. alicent and rhaenyra were playing a mutual game of sniping at each other however they could. rhaenyra is so far from being innocent in the breakdown of their relationship

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

@@nevermind3013 Alicent is the queen and literally pulls rank over Rhaenyra time and time again. She was in a position to abuse her and she does. It wasn't mutual either, Rhaenyra isn't shown to do anything to her, other than keep her distance.

I had my doubts when James Gunn chose Milly Alcock to be the new Supergirl, so I binge-watched House of the Dragon and......wow now I understand why 💙😮

@hedidit55

Ай бұрын

oh wow, I'm excited now

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

Maximum glazing

So tragic when a friendship goes wrong

@queenxx1690

Ай бұрын

In books there is no friendship only step mother daughter relation and Alicant is 9 years older than Rhaenyra

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

@@queenxx1690She is an evil step mother

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@queenxx1690 and in the TV show there is a friendship and they are around the same age. adaptational changes, what a concept!

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

@@queenxx1690She’s an evil step mom

@queenxx1690

Ай бұрын

@@alexissimpson5819 Whatever it step mom and step daughter relation would make more sense why she would go against her

"do keep ser laenor, sooner or late you'll may get one who looks like you" alicent gagged them 😂🔥

Spoiler alert: Alicent (and Corlys) are the last survivors of the war. I genuinely see the writers showing Alicent dying, thinking of the good times with Rhaenyra, before all of this mess and imagining herself flying away with Rhaenyra on dragon's back.

@Karasuno86

Ай бұрын

Corlys survived, Alicent did not, she died right after the war lmfao

@AmethystEyes

Ай бұрын

Rhaenerya’s two children and Daemon’s girls survive also.

@lordalessan

Ай бұрын

@@Karasuno86 Yes...she survived the war. She lived long enough for Aegon III to be king.

@lordalessan

Ай бұрын

@@AmethystEyes Very true and those two carried on the legacy of House Targaryen. I was referring more to the original players.

@sydney33thomas

Ай бұрын

I highly doubt she remembered Rhaenyra at the end. In the book, Alicent went completely insane after the war, hating the color green, inciting her granddaughter Jaehaera to slit the throat of Aegon III (Rhaenyra's son who became king at the end), and eventually dying believing her children were still alive (although she witnessed the complete destruction of her family and lineage).

"Where is duty? Where is sacrifice?"

@luuuu81

Ай бұрын

Exhausting, isn't it? Hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteousness But now they see you as you are 💥🖤

Honestly, this is my favorite dynamic on the show. The whole concept of childhood friends (and possibly more) turned bitter enemies adds so much complexity and layers to their relationship. It makes for a compelling yet tragic story jmho. 🖤💚

and they were roommates...

The Music is Amazing!!!

they were and are in love. it is much more than just a friendship.

“Friendship” yes sure…of course… Can’t wait for season two!

"friendship" you can say it they were in love

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

They weren’t

@adamcraig1468

14 күн бұрын

Erm... no lol

Exhausting, isn't it? Hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteousness. But now they see you as you are.”🔥🔥🖤🖤

The music in this show is incredible man

The friendship change was an absolute improvement from the book UNTIL ep 8-10. By that point, Alicent should have went full Green and start politicking the rise of the Green Council and the Queen’s Party in contrast to the Princess’ Faction at court like in the books. They took away all her political genius from the book, gave it to Otto, and made her look indecisive and frankly stupid at being suprise Pikachu’d that the greens had been plotting for 6 years.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

well, with the way you interpreted her character arc thank god you're not a writer on the show

@RedMeleys

Ай бұрын

Judging by your detailed insight and analysis of her character arc I on other-hand think you might have been the actual writing genius behind episode 8

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@RedMeleys you're right I am a genius

@umalguem.4918

Ай бұрын

​@@hasna7542it really made her come out as indecisive and easily manipulated tho. alicent made aegon stop talking to her nephews because she kept telling him he would be king and theyd try to kill the greens - and not many episodes later she appears in the green council shocked that otto was plotting to crown aegon as king. she also fought with rhaenyra on a daily basis, spread rumours about her and laenor to weaken rhaenyra's support in the court, refused to marry helaena to jace which could have stopped the growing tension between the two houses...she was ready to fight to keep team green's power, specially after aemond lost his eye. then suddenly there's that dinner scene, rhaenyra makes her a toast and they seem to rekindle? they were enemies for much more time they had been friends. both did unforgivable things to each other. yet alicent ends the dinner asking rhaenyra to return later and rhaenyra happily agrees. it made 0 sense!

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

@@umalguem.4918 those are character flaws and I like that about her, it makes her more interesting to me! and as for their rekindled friendship, it makes total sense to me. for one, Viserys was dying and it was partly for his sake. and when you loved someone deeply, especially during your formative years, you carry a soft spot for them despite everything they put you through. unfortunately it was too late for that and unlike them their children never shared a love with each other. I find that very human and tragic.

It was cute when they were young, but every semblance of amity should have been gone after Alicent tried to harm Rhaenyra's son and Aemond lost his eye.

im so excited for season 2 🎉😁

The most tragic love story of the show, they always break my heart

Damn I really thought they would be a thing. Just their chemistry is so damn cute. One is free minded and the other is responsible. "LET THEM EAT CAKE!"

Love how they don't even try to hide how much the show revolves around rhaenyra. It's always rhaenyra and daemon or rhaenyra and alicent or rhaenyra and aegon. At the center of it all is always rhaenyra.

@queenxx1690

Ай бұрын

I hate how they favour her over other actors thats why we could not see other character because she took most screentime

@targlife2979

Ай бұрын

@@queenxx1690 Unlike GOT they've never tried to hide the fact that hotd has a clear protagonist. As a rhaenyra fan I love it but I do think other actors/characters should have their time to shine as well. I'd personally love to see more Rhaena.

@mironnetm

Ай бұрын

​@@queenxx1690 i totally agree with you

@queenxx1690

Ай бұрын

@@targlife2979 i thought they will do the same ,show every character but they chose protagonist and focused mostly on her now character like Haelena we berly saw her or her dragon and she won't be living long they said we weill se 7 dragons but we really saw only 4 plus a little of Seasmoke.Aegon was shown as only as drunk and rapist what which was also made up because in books he was womaniser where are his good sides ? GOT did it so much better and they introduces more characters and they really felt like people HOTD failed to do so

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

@@queenxx1690 It's clear that Rhaenyra is the protagonist.., Also: what good sides does Aegon have in the books? He also went to child fighting rings. So in the show they actually made him look better. And him being a despicable human being actually goes along with the misogyny that clearly is a big theme of the book and therfore the show, Like Otto said, Rhaenyra could be a saint, he would always go against her because she's a woman whereas Aegon as a son could do nothing wrong and should still be considered the heir purely based on the fact that he is a man. Like he rapes the maids in the Red Keep, Alicent cleans up after him, knows that he's a horrible person and still tells him he's going to be king...

tale as old as time: a homoerotic friendship separated by the dispassionate designs of a patriarchal society

this tragic relationship between Rhaenyra and Alicent is surely what made me love the show even more. i hope to see more of them in season 2. i do believe Alicent will realize just how controlled and trapped she is and how things could have been different but, of course, it would be too late by then.

I love them so much they’re so tragic

is Hindi dubbed available?

I love how beautiful alicent dresses and gowns are, FASHION QUEEN 💚

my tragic lesbians

Alicent is very charismatic interesting character, the way she was the head of the small council leading it in viserys sickness 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 ok

@James-MK45

Ай бұрын

@@Poetsrideatdusk what's funny? 🙂

Awesome 🎉

I want weekly videos of the early actors reacting to how their characters develop as time goes on.

Alicent always jealous of Rhaenyra, but the problem was King Veserys to take another woman wanting a boy, he also killed his wife for that not seeing his daughter can rule.

@heartlesslove9084

Ай бұрын

Why do people use "jealous" as gotcha moment like alicent is queen with her children having dragons she does not give a f**k about rhaenyra like you guys want. Stay mad obsessed.

@Kamo766

Ай бұрын

@@heartlesslove9084 I don't blame her I blame her father and husband in poisoning her mind.

@Lea-ke2rw

Ай бұрын

@@heartlesslove9084Alicent is because Rhaenyra got to be with man she loves among other things. Which is why she asks her “Where is..” and she blames Rhaenyra for every single thing instead of Otto (And now YOU take my son’s eye) 💀💀💀

@roseofthegarden_

Ай бұрын

​@@Lea-ke2rwAlicent isn't jealous of Rhaenyra the way y'all like to think. Is she envious that Rhaenyra has been able to move fairly freely without consequences? Yes. But guess what? So would _most_ women! Rhaenyra is _extremely privileged_ in this regard! _Most_ women would have been stripped of their inheritance, banished and the like for the things Rhaenyra has gotten away with, but she's gotten to skirt the law and the rules because her father is King and he _shields_ her. Which, fine I don't care about that, of course he is, but it's irritating to see fans act like Alicent being upset and angry that Rhaenyra's choices and Viserys favoritism is leading to _her_ family being tossed aside and harmed is ridiculous.

@nevermind3013

Ай бұрын

​@@Lea-ke2rw rhaenyra blames alicent for the failings of the men around them all the time. rhaenyra abandoned alicent while she was being sexually abused and forced to bear children at a frighteningly young age because it was easier to be angry at alicent than at her father or the system in general. both girls have been groomed by the patriarchy to not question it. and alicent isn't envious of rhaenyra getting to sleep with men she actually likes (men who in fact were abusing rhaenyra regardless) she's envious because alicent has destroyed herself trying to be perfect while rhaenyra has done whatever she wants and in the end rhaenyra gets all the favour and acknowledgement and love from viserys anyway

Love these two ❤💚

Is this show back out you guys?

@SikaR88

Ай бұрын

June 16

@toughlove4413

Ай бұрын

@@SikaR88 thank u

The real super girl, easily destroy Joker 2 and all DC

I ship them. That's it.

my both fave

full interview? them?? when???

Estúpida amistad que desde el episodio dos dejo de tener sentido, Dios liberanos del rhaenicent 🙏🏼 💀

@asv12av

Ай бұрын

Pues es una lástima para ti que los escritores de la serie están basando toda la trama en ellas dos y como su amistad rota conllevo a la danza de dragones 😂 los posters publicados en redes sociales de la temp 2 son de ellas dos, ellas son el centro

Alicent actually was forced to wed the king, she's no privileged princess like rhaenyra to have have saying in it, rhaenyra should've known her friends better instead of victim blaming her.

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

It was alicent who was constantly blaming, questioning and judging her. She literally forgave her for even seducing her father behind her back. Don't be stupid on purpose please

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

Alicent didn't communicate with her about not wanting to marry Viserys. Rhaenyra learned about it in a Small Council meeting with every other lord that wasn't Ser Otto. So, Rhaenyra had no way of knowing how Alicent really felt about it, especially since she never uttered a word about it to Rhaenyra. So in her POV Alicent did it willingly. What reason did she have to believe otherwise? They were alone often enough, given that Alicent met with Viserys for months, and at no point was she able to tell Rhaenyra? Talk about friendship...

@nevermind3013

Ай бұрын

@@linkinlady0123 are u literally blaming a fourteen year old grooming victim for being afraid of speaking up. Viserys literally did the whole “this is our little secret don’t tell rhaenyra” act on her what did you expect

@hh-ug4ki

Ай бұрын

​@linkinlady0123 viserys also basically told alicent not to say anything to rhaenyra. when you realize both women are victims and not at fault for it and the fault lies mainly in VISERYS and OTTO that's when i'll know peace

@asiamarques4341

Ай бұрын

​@@nevermind3013 Right? I'll never understand why Alicent gets so much hate yet people ignore the fact that she was LITERALLY a teenage girl used as a pawn by her father for his political ambitions, is a victim of grooming and abuse by the men around her for YEARS. While Viserys was clearly in a high position of power and authority. There was a major power imbalance between them. Imagine how tired I am?

Damn it Otto

They look so lovely together, I wish things are settling in the end. A friend killing a friend is not something I could tolerate to watch or see. 😢

no, they were in love💕

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

No they weren’t

@emmasummers893

Ай бұрын

No, they weren't. Clearly, they had a sisterly bond between them. Rhaenyra always adored Daemon.

@nevermind3013

Ай бұрын

@@emmasummers893historians will call it a “sisterly bond”

@BlackDiamond2718

Ай бұрын

So were we.

They could have just married. Boom. Civil war averted.

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

Rhaenyra isn’t gay

@natsgirlf

Ай бұрын

see u get it lol

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

Ew

@natsgirlf

Ай бұрын

@@Poetsrideatdusk boo

@nevermind3013

Ай бұрын

@@alexissimpson5819okay homophobia

It's devolution actually

I had to go on TRT after watching half a season of this estrogen-drenched soap opera.

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

And the evolution is Alicent starting to harass Rhaenyra and her children, wanting to maim her son, almost cutting off her arm and then helping in the usurpation of her birthright LOL

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

almost cutting off her arm? so you mean just like how Daemon almost choked Rhaenyra to death?

@natsgirlf

Ай бұрын

bringing morality into a conversation about house of the dragon, a show full of morally grey characters, is a crazy thing to do tbh

@sydney33thomas

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542 "but... but... Daemon!!". The person is talking about Alicent in their comment, not Daemon. Why is everyone obsessed with Daemon when we don't even mention him?

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542 So that's your argument? 'But Daemon...'? How about owning up to the fact that Alicent isn't the innocent little snowflake you like the paint her as?

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

harassed? wtf? all alicent did was speaking the truth, rhaenyra sons are bastards, and rhaenyra defended her son who maimed alicent son and lied "my son was attacked and forced to defend themselves" alicent acted normally for a mother, you just riding for rhaenyra because she's targaryen woman.

Manifesting rheneyra giving a tight slap to alicent for being a constant annoyance of a self-righteous pawn.

@alialkorgoli

Ай бұрын

what slap lol? alicent slashed her arm open 😂

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

@@alialkorgoli OK? She needs a slap still for being an annoying cry baby.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

that'd be hot

and historian will call them best friends……….

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

Rhaenyra is not gay

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@alexissimpson5819did she tell you that?

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542Fucking multiple men and enjoying it told me that

Love these two

We want all the smoke this season

My tragic girls🤧💔

some people seriously thinks this was love (it wasn't, rhaenyra deserves better)

THEM❤🥺🤏🏼

Spoiler alert: There is a point during the war when Rhaenyra and Demon take Kingslanding, they execute Otto and other lords of the green council but Rhaenyra chooses to kee alive Alicent eventhough in the book they aren't friends, I guess that in the show will happen the same

For the people who are mad, here for you to get more mad, and for the people who love them like I do, here some quotes of the directors, showrunners and actors about them! (also there is much much more💞) quote: “despite everything that happened there is a deep connection and ultimately, you can’t erase the fact that you loved and cared for someone. It can get twisted, but I can’t be deleted.” -Clare Kilner, director of episode 9 quote: “There’s just a closeness between two young women that cannot be verbalized, especially in the world they live in. I don't think they fully understand the feelings; it’s just all-consuming love.” -Emily Carey, young Alicent quote: “There are layers and layers of repression; sexuality and lust are probably a prehistoric, sedimentary layer by now.” -Olivia Cooke, adult Alicent quote: "but ultimately the demise of their friendship is by choices made by men.” -Milly Alcock, young Rhaenyra quote: “If she gives in to [Otto’s terms], she can go home, and maybe even be loved, and maybe Alicent would take her back.” -Emma D’Arcy, adult Rhaenyra quote: “but [Rhaenyra] definitely yearns for the old physical intimacy that they shared.” -Emma D’Arcy, adult Rhaenyra quote: “I can definitely understand that it is hot watching complex female characters […] Like, that is hot. And is very different from, I suppose, more two-dimensional portrayals of female sexuality.” -Emma D'Arcy, adult Rhaenyra quote: “Stealing these loaded looks with someone that you fancy and that’s forbidden. That’s hot. It’s all hot.” -Olivia Cooke, adult Alicent quote: “They [have] this potential romantic entanglement from earlier on that has always been a big thing.” -Miguel Sapochnik, showrunner quote: “it’s a bit of a love story in a way, of these two women.” -Geeta Patel, director of episode 8 quote: “I saw the love and the romance of these two girls, which makes it all the more tragic” -Greg Yaitanes, director of episode 2 quote: “The underlying theme is that Rhaenyra is actually in love with Alicent, With Milly as young Rhaenyra, it was very much about seeing how she experiences this constant series of small rejections from Alicent.” -Miguel Sapochnik, showrunner quote: “This game they are locked in, it’s largely a nonverbal one, and it's bitter and silent and stony.” “We exist in a series of looks and chess pieces and hearsay and ravens.” -Emma D’Arcy and Olivia Cooke, adult Rhaenyra and Alicent

@Vill54rt

Ай бұрын

The funny thing is that most of what they say is not in the show (cut scenes) and does not make sense. And the interviews are different from the final result

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

Always trust rhaenicents and alicent fans to fill comment sections with no less than a 500 word essay.

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

You do realize that what they said isn't actually shown on screen? Like there was nothing that indicated that their love is indeed a romantic one. Or more than just a really deep trust into each other? Like that's the risk with TV or any media, the people responsible might actually see some things a certain way because they want it to be seen that way. But it's not actually verbalized or explicitely shown on screen. The people involved in making the art aren't actually seeing the finished product from the point of a viewer who has no idea what their intention is and might interpret it in a totally different way. Like, to me, Alicent and Rhaenyra have a deep, platonic friendship that's based on trust because they were able to tell each other everything. But the moment Alicent started seeing Viserys in secret that trust is no longer there=no longer a friendship because there's no trust anymore. So, to me, getting to episode 6 and hearing the actors talk about how they're still missing what they had and supposedly thinking they can get it back makes no sense. It's nostalgia at best because as children their lives were easier in general. And that's what their friendship represents to me: an easier time where nothing bad had happened yer. Like, Rhaenyra still had her mother and wasn't burdened with everything her father told her about Aegon's song and Alicent wasn't burdened with her supposed duty.

@Alcinaswifefrfr

Ай бұрын

@@Poetsrideatdusk it's just quotes about the showrunners, directors and actors. It took me 3 minutes to copy paste all of them💞

@Alcinaswifefrfr

Ай бұрын

@@linkinlady0123 go argue with the showrunners and directors, they were the ones who said this not me 🤭💞

Both die, alicent wins the war but a rhaenyras son gets the throne

@Karasuno86

Ай бұрын

Alicent did all that to put her blood on the throne, she lost and died going mad right after the war ended lol

@viktorblazeski7559

Ай бұрын

I’ve read Fire and Blood and I know what happens, but why would you spoil it for other people who haven’t and came here in the comments thinking this is a safe space without spoilers. At least post a spoiler warning…

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

All of Alicent’s children and grandchild die. How is that a win?

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

@@Karasuno86 she did not lose lol, she outlived her enemies and installed her son on the throne recorded him as king, that's a victory rhaenyra did not achieve, alicent motive was different though she did all that to save her family from rhaenyra and daemon madness

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

@@alexissimpson5819 it's not because that not why she installed her son as king, but she won the war at a greater cost

A true friend doesn’t stab you in the back. I’m looking at you miss Hightower.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

who stabbed who in the back?

@viktorblazeski7559

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542 Alicent stabbed Rhaenyra ofc

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

alicent owes rhaenyra nothing

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@viktorblazeski7559 when did she do this

@viktorblazeski7559

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542 I come with receipts. First she started seeing Viserys behind Rhaenyra’s back, then married him. She started rumors about her sons’ parentage, she tried to proclaim Lucerys illegitimate, she tried to take Lucerys’ eye, she abused her power by making Rhaenyra walk to her right after giving birth. And finally usurped her throne. Hope this helps.

i love how alicent stays true to what she is through the years trying to do what's right and even defending rhaenyra, while rhaenyra becomes darker more and more that she even murdered an innocent servant at Driftmark.

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

Alicent covers up a kinslayer, a murderer and a rapist and then gives Larys the order to burn down an entire building (Mysaria's pleasure house) so she can get rid of one person.

@lindsayyesse8166

Ай бұрын

you mean like abusing her power as queen to pardon Cole who had broken kingsguard oath and murdered an innocent man, conspiring to reinstate her treasonous father as hand (with a man who she provides sexual favors for), letting her son rape serving girls with only a slap as a repercussion, manipulating said girls into silence, and then usurping the throne and planting her rapist, child abusing son on it? Rhaenyra is NO saint, but nobody in the show is. I love show Alicent as a character but I truly don't get where people think she's innocent and pure.

@viktorblazeski7559

Ай бұрын

@@Eleni1002 cleared this person 💯

@chrisnorman-rz1qc

Ай бұрын

@@Eleni1002 1- when did she cover up a kin slayer? she doesn't have the authority to expose larys because she doesn't have proof and he has alot to use against her. 2- no she DID NOT order him to burn down a building, she ordered him to get rid of mysaria not burn innocents, larys did that. NICE TRY, BUT DESPERATE ONE.

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

@@chrisnorman-rz1qc One nod to Criston and he'll turn Larys' head into mush, no questions asked. If she doesn't want to do that, cutting ties with him and asking for him to go to Harrenhal (his new seat) is an option. She does neither of those, she rewards him Oh and let me guess, she has no idea what Larys is capable of and how he "got rid of one person" in the past? Poor wittle Alicent, she has no idea about anything, she's just a baby! Be for real now. Nice job trying to absolve Alicent of any crime she's ever committed, but not going to work.

Even without comparing this to the original source material F&B this frienship is easily the most hammerfisted aspect of this damn show. Episode 5 should be the end of their friendship. Alicent is a grown woman in episode 6 a literal DECADE and the show has the audacity to market this characters as friends who are torn apart by the big old evil meany men. Rhaenyra has suffered more misgonystic abuse from Alicent then from any of the men in her life like bruh. Hotd writes Alicent to be this aggressive bigoted maniac in the later half than pull back in episode 9 because the writers are a bunch of cowards who cannot commit to Alicent being a antagonist. All the abuse ONE SIDED abuse that Rhaenyra has suffered from Alicent and they miss each other wth?

@alexissimpson5819

Ай бұрын

Daemon choked Rhaenyra

@iamjustaweirdo7364

Ай бұрын

@alexissimpson5819 how to spot a whiny green loser. You critize literally anything about this show and you know God forbid you say anything that suggests that Alicent isn't actually a good person or a well written character... And then some green incel behind a screen goes "um but actually Daemon" in a discussion that has nothing to do with him.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

and is this "aggressive bigoted maniac" in the room with us right now?

@iamjustaweirdo7364

Ай бұрын

@alexissimpson5819 *talking about alicent and Rhaenyra's wiring in the show* Obnoxious green fans or ppl who have no idea how politics in westeros actually work: Bbbbbbbuut daaeeeemon is meaaaaan

@shadyindividual550

Ай бұрын

@@iamjustaweirdo7364 A man grooming and abusing a woman isn't just "mean". This show really brings out the hidden misogyny in you people

Alicent is literally more morally innocent and purer than Rhaenyra.Rhaenyra is a huge 304.

@sydney33thomas

Ай бұрын

Hello Crispin Cole.

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

'Morally innnocent'? She literally went into a man's bedchambers unchaperoned and in secret. Didn't report a knight of the kingsguard breaking his vows. Then there's the pesky little thing where she kept quiet about a kinslayer. Then she attacked the Heir to the Iron Throne which is actually treason. As was telling Aegon that he is the heir from basically the moment he was born. Plus, she clearly went against her husbands wishes on numerous occasions when she probably made some vows as to not do that...

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

@@linkinlady0123 you forget the part where she was forced to do it

Best friends and now the worst enemy

Yall mad but maybe if y'all stopped fighting it and accept that these two are sapphics, you wouldn't be so shocked at this. 💀 Showrunners, writers and actors already told yall. 😂

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

This video is literally titled "Friendship". Yeah sure they told us that *if* we want we *can* interpret it as sapphic but it can also be friendship. The show never showed anything more than that for anyone to consider it sapphic. Backstage interviews don't make it canon.

@roseofthegarden_

Ай бұрын

​​@@Eleni1002I personall disagree, the sapphic undertones were very much there from the start, plenty saw it, myself included. You can choose to see just friendship, but imo it makes a lot less sense in that context and you're liable to get frustrated at why this "old friendship" doesn't die already.

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

@@roseofthegarden_ Undertones are still not canon so there's nothing here that people need to accept, like you say in your first comment. Even with the undertones, it still doesn't make sense. The undertones hint at a crush at the very best and it wasn't even that big of a crush. No one in their right mind would choose that from 20 years ago over their own kids.

@roseofthegarden_

Ай бұрын

​@@Eleni1002Obviously I don't expect either of them to choose each other over their own kids lol, all I'm saying is, don't be surprised if their is still undertones of it, it'll obviously never happen and with everything that's happened they will always put their own kids/family first, but that's part of the tragedy, that they were torn apart by circumstances in many ways beyond their control and anything that could've potentially been was cut off before it could ever really start, now like the writers said, they're stuck where they'd left off all those years ago and in between that is a whole lot of broken world.

@Eleni1002

Ай бұрын

@@roseofthegarden_ Yes the problem is there should be no undertones anymore. No one would still like their teen crush after said crush is trying to hurt their kids. Not to mention that their friendship wouldn't even last anyway. The two of them were way too different from the get go and would clash eventually. That's why people have such a hard time buying any of this. This friendship is treated as something deeper than what it was.

🏳️‍🌈!

I feel so sad for alicent she tried to do the right thing and i don't think she's a bad person, she sacrificed alot for her family and the realm as her position demands of her, i blame viserys for what happened to alicent and rhaenyra.

@linkinlady0123

Ай бұрын

Not Otto?

@jamien368

Ай бұрын

@@linkinlady0123 well viserys is to be blamed more than anyone, he's the king and he's the one who listened to otto's advice and agreed to marry alicent just to neglect her and her children.

This fake friendship is the worst thing hbo has ever done. Do you really think that after what alicent did, we should believe that? This is something that neither the black nor the green like, and you spoil the whole show with this friendship.

@hedidit55

Ай бұрын

Can you explain what you're trying to say a bit better?

@Divine_Chareka

Ай бұрын

It made sense to put it in the first season. It serves the purpose of making the story feel more tragic. It's a fine change from the source material actually.

@Vill54rt

Ай бұрын

@@hedidit55 Their friendship after episode 2 doesn't make sense. They've been enemies for longer than friends, and after all that's happened, they're enemies.

@clovdxpolocloudy8663

Ай бұрын

thats the best change from the books actually

@ajiramarija

Ай бұрын

BOOOO GO CRY ABOUT IT

This fake friendshipbs is the worst thing that happened to HOTD

gay rights ❗️❗️ 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

the show ruined Alicent, on the show she doesnt do anything and doesnt want anything

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

so you watched the show with your eyes closed?

@arobin6695

Ай бұрын

@@hasna7542 what does Alicent want? What actions does she take to help her get what she wants?

@Poetsrideatdusk

Ай бұрын

​@arobin6695 nothing. She's like theonn tbh.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

​@@arobin6695 alicent is someone who clings to duty at the cost of her own desires to make sense of the suffering she goes through. so if you find it difficult to discern "what she wants", that is by design, because she never allowed herself to desire anything, especially at the beginning. but then throughout the season we see her character develop and gain more political power, which culminates in episode 9 where she finally takes charge for the first time by putting aegon on the throne *and* sparing rhaenyra, against her father's wishes.

@hasna7542

Ай бұрын

i'm sorry if this isn't the version of alicent you want but I love how complex and tragic the show version is.

Viserys should have just banished Rhaenyra and be done with it. The girl was not worthy to be on the Iron Throne. She was a nasty s1ut.

@willjohnboy

Ай бұрын

Most in this world are men and women.

@cambelloroxy9420

Ай бұрын

And that is were you are wrong

@Lea-ke2rw

Ай бұрын

And you’re probably on the side of Aegon who is a rapist? And drunk 24/7 and has no respect for his house or his family.

@Lea-ke2rw

Ай бұрын

Rhaenyra is the one, it is from her that prince that was promised came from. And Viserys married her to a gay man yet she had to have heirs. She tried many times with Laenor but to no avail. She wasn’t a s1ut for sleeping with one man during 10 years…but what can be expected from a person like you when you’re clearly misogynist.

@sydney33thomas

Ай бұрын

So who should have sit on the throne? Aegon the rapist or Aemond the child killer? Aegon or Aemond were worthy?? I don't think so.

so beautifully tragic and the best thing they've done with this adaptation. ❤️‍🩹