[REVIEW] Native Instruments Symphony Essentials
Native Instruments Symphony Essentials - a complete affordable orchestral library for Kontakt or waste of space? It’s a library some of you may already own but don’t use as part of Native Instruments Komplete. So join composer Guy Michelmore as he puts it through its paces, creating a short piece of music from scratch. But what does he think of it? Watch it and find out!
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@walidfraiha254
3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. However I see you always using Kontakt as a software, but your course is logic and cubase! I am wondering why not on kontakt? although you have a video on it.
@franciscoaragao5398
Жыл бұрын
Sim, exatamente.
Reviews of sub-$500 orchestral VST are super helpful for us hobbyists. And watching you compose is always fun too! Thank you!
@iggswanna1248
3 жыл бұрын
im also a hobbit go figure.
I like how you laugh at yourself for the simplicity of what you're playing, but it really is just what so many of us need. Thanks for the effort!
19:24 _"I'm gonna call that a day... and we've only been here like 20 minutes or something."_ Could you do a video on how I get to live your life?
I composed my first movie score last night in the Ableton Live 10 Suite DAW using Native Instruments Kontakt as the plugin. Its pretty fun creating. I've always been into movie scores. Guy Michelmore thanks for showing me what to in the creative process.
What a wonderful teacher, energetic, focused and making it all a lot of fun, fantastic channel
I’ve had a fever the past few days. Being treated to 2 uploads from thinkspace since Wednesday is cheering me right up. Thanks for the mood boost, Guy! Also thanks to Jake and Blake for their advice regarding monitors a while back. I bought a pair of Adam T7V in the end and can’t wait to test them. Tested me last Film on a 4K tv but the instrumentation was only piano and synth so thankfully didn’t have to worry about an orchestral mix due to the lack of monitors at the time.
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
Wow get well soon! Ill pass it on to Blake and Jake - sounds like a comedy duo...nothing could be further from the truth....
@muzikmystro
4 жыл бұрын
ThinkSpace Education thank you! I currently have my eye on a few of the courses on offer so I think I might be rolling a dice tomorrow because they all look fantastic.
I'm not looking for a new sample library, I have all I need, but let me just say you are absolute blast to watch! The whole workflow is so effortless and the high energy/humor makes this extremely entertaining! Great stuff man!
13:30 "I've written worse!".... LOL ! I would kill to write this one in only 10 mins...
@SergioGarcia-jg3yy
4 жыл бұрын
I was going to say exactly this haha.
@GuglielmoEsposito
4 жыл бұрын
Well, he didn't invent anything on the spot. What he used is an harmonized bass-line that is several centuries old called "folia" which, in different variations, has been more or less the same. For further information on this specific bass-line progression you should check this link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hKekzMGhmdKfhJs.html
@joechindamo1948
4 жыл бұрын
@@GuglielmoEsposito Sorry I can't resist. It was like the 12 bar blues - serving so many composers. I've used this sequence too in a piece for strings, harpsichord and timpani., performed here by the Queensland Symphony Orchestra If of interest. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoOmy8usgLLXnJM.html
Hi everyone, I see a lot of discussion about the Symphony Series Essentials and the Symphony Series Collection (sound quality and price), and I also see those who are wondering which to buy. I own the full Symphony Series Collection, and would like to tackle this topic. First off, I'd just like to note that you can get either the Symphony Series Essentials or Symphony Series Collection as part of a Komplete bundle from Native Instruments (Komplete Ultimate or Collector's Edition). I highly recommend doing this as it's a steal! Not only do you get the Symphony Series instruments, but you also get so many other incredible useful libraries and effects! Also, if you can get one of those bundles on a sale (like I did), it's more than worth your money! Anyway, let's get to the reviews already! The Essential version is a great starting point, but won't suffice if you're a serious or aspiring composer (still good for pop or film, just a little bare bones). I only say this because you can't change microphone positions, you don't have the auto-divisi feature, and you are somewhat limited with your articulations with the Essential version. If you have the budget, or the time to save a little more money, I would buy the full collection (or just buy the Komplete Collector's Edition on a sale). Here's my review of the Symphony Series Collection (also, look for songs I've created using Symphony Series in this review): Strings: Probably the best ensemble in Symphony Series. It's very versatile, easy to use, and sounds great! You can adjust many settings such as the microphone positions, reverb, release, dynamics, and you can even change the section size of your ensemble (I don't know many libraries that can do this). The sound is superb, but some articulations have noise, such as the harmonics articulation, which makes that articulation difficult to use. Having said that, the other articulations sound great and are very handy! This library works for slow and intimate scores, or fast and epic! A string solo patch is not included sadly. Here's a song I composed using the string ensemble (listen for the drop): kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmGJtM2shMKtksY.html Brass: Elegant sound, just a lot of natural reverb. The brass ensemble's sample quality sounds amazing, and has so many articulations between all the different patches. The dynamics wheel sounds really great because you can go from soft to really hard and loud! As I mentioned before, the base recordings have a lot of reverb, but if you reduce the release and change the microphone position to close, it definitely manageable. Here's a song I've composed which uses the entire brass ensemble: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZ6gmLt8hbGyYrA.html Percussion: This instrument of Symphony Series is great because you get so many instruments. The sample quality is good, but not for all microphone positions. The spot and close microphones typically sound superb! But the stereo or far microphones are too washed out by reverb. There is also a resonance simulation that sounds incredibly realistic! Listen to a song I've composed with the percussion here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGh91bSDlZy4aMo.html Woodwinds: The woodwinds have a great sample quality, but have a similar problem to the brass: too much reverb and noise in the recordings (brass doesn't have noise, just reverb). Again, if you have the Symphony Series Collection though, you can change the microphone positions to close and get a workable sound. There are a lot of good features about this library too, such as the articulations and the arpeggio generator, which allows for trills and such. The solo instruments are a plus, and sound pretty nice too. I'm sure there are better woodwind libraries out there, but since this already comes with Symphony Series, why not use it? Well, there's an honest review the Symphony Series library... what do you think, yay or nay? Darn it... they also didn't include a choir patch... maybe one day... right?
I have the full symphony series collection and all I can say is the added features and articulations that come with the full version make it a much more viable library!
@conforzo
4 жыл бұрын
Is it better than the cinematic studio series?
@davidnevillemusic
4 жыл бұрын
Contrapunctus XV I’m afraid I haven’t heard of this library and based on some quick research, looks like it’s pretty new? I would say in terms of articulations, they are more or less the same, the symphony series samples have a beautiful “auto-divisi” function which allows for a much more realistic sound and it also has sophisticated legato transitions. In terms of sound, the CSS sounds lovely and it could quite possibly be better, but to my ears they’re about the same, they’re both gorgeous and have wonderful expression possibilities. Of course, this is speaking from someone who hasn’t actually used CSS so I’m not sure how the interface works and how easy it is to use. For the brass, I will caution that the symphony series is pretty project dependent, meaning they’re really good at particular styles of composition. They recorded that library with astronomically large brass sections so the overall sound is big brassy brass. You can of course play quiet passages and they sound lovely but the library really excels in the loud fast stuff because of the large section sizes. I believe (and I could be wrong) the recorded 8 horns. Which means of you play just a 2 note chord you’ll be hearing 16 horns. That’s just nuts, so that’s why it’s best for those big over-produced tracks. The brass on the CSS library sounds much more realistic to what you would find in a real orchestral setting, especially the solo patches, I was quite impressed with those. Alright this is probably more than you asked for but I hope this helps! PS the woodwinds in the symphony series are the same way, larger than necessary section sizes for a larger than life sound. Cheers!
@georginajovanovic
3 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that with a keyboard and a app I can recreate and record a composition for an orchestra without an orchestra? What app? What do I need to copy so I can try my own composition
@WrektSK
3 жыл бұрын
@@georginajovanovic you'll need a DAW, Kontakt full license to run these libraries, and a whole plethora of libraries that can realistically emulate a real orchestra setting and sound, and most importantly a computer that can handle all that work. So in short, You'll need a keyboard, a bunch of 'apps' and a boatload of money ;)
@eng3d
Жыл бұрын
@@WrektSK For the record, Native Instruments sells a pack. It is expensive but you get everything in a shoot (so it's cheap).
Why this channel is not bigger I don't know. It's just a matter of time before people catch on. As a composer myself in the sync world this is useful information, very inspirational and is also good to watch in downtime when I am trying to recharge. Cheers!
@muzikmystro
4 жыл бұрын
Scott Davis I second this :)
It would take me months to compose what he's done in 20 minutes. Amazing 👏
@Evangelionism
2 жыл бұрын
How about now, Samsx?
Watching live creation by skilled people is an excellent way to assess quality and learn at the same time. Subscribed!
2:52 me once again after three days of composing in which I simply forgot to eat and sleep
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
Thats me most mornings!
@marquise32
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
Would be great to do something similar using the Spitfire LABS and Epic instrument ranges... 😀🎶
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
I love labs and we did something a while ago but not recenrly
@dafingaz
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation This would be awesome! I use LABS and the Originals range all the time. Or if you feel like using some other FREE libraries (8Dio, ProjectSam, etc.) that would be great!
I need this guy's energy in my life
Very helpful -- OMG -- I never thought of adding a midi track beneath an instrument track to keep the keyswitches separate from actual notes. THANK YOU FOR THAT TIP!
@bluescanfly1981
4 жыл бұрын
This Guy gives awesome workflow tips :p
@MrJacoBezuidenhout
4 жыл бұрын
I know! I'm such a moron for that. And then suddenly a client requests a different key and I have to deselect all the keyswitches first!
Guy: 13:04 "These sounds are fine, they are not..." Director: "CUT!"
4:02 "That enormous knob in the middle of the screen" !!!! We love you Guy!
That MIDI KS thing is awesome! Never thought of it! Brilliant! Thanks a lot!
You are one awesome guy, I can tell you that
My god! What have I just found! An absolute jewel in multimedia! Sir you have yourself a loyal subscriber and fan! 😇
best tutorial for orchestra ... what a master piece thanks
You’re like the Jeremy Clarkson of MIDI
@thesoundvault508
4 жыл бұрын
I love this comment 😂
@louispearson8306
3 жыл бұрын
what an insult
@production2353
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! You won the internet a year ago!
@jung-zen
3 жыл бұрын
So so accurate
Mix of Humor and creative abilities is unmatched an tremendously gravitating..takes your music tutorials to another stratosphere 👌🏽
You're an inspiration! Just watching you using the articulations has helped me to learn some of this mysterious science...
Watching your videos is not only very useful, it's fun!! Thank you for your playful yet educational way of doing this :)
0:38 3:01 3:44 Articulation 6:48 6:59 Message from Sponsor 7:29 8:35 Add snare drum 10:06 Add brass 11:51 One more layer 12:54 Horn line 14:00 Add woodwinds. Flutes 16:46 One more element, woodwind ensemble 17:18 Akai ATC Mini 18:13 19:25 Conclusion. Cheap, does what it says on the tin
I love your personality! We need more people like you in this world
13:41 I can relate sooooo well. My actual creativity ain't that bad but writing a good tune that isn't generic would take forever!
Wow i just got in here and i found him so authentic. Love it.
I was mostly mesmerised by that cool DIY on-air light you have on the way into your office :P
This was one of the most helpful overall vids that cleared up the process.... jumping into the template setups is SOOOOO overwhleming. Nice to see you breeze through with JUST enough info on key switches / articulations ... thanks. Subscribed!
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
welcome!
Well. That melody got stuck in my head now. In 20 minutes. Colour me impressed.
Thought the triple tongue was amazing. The snare sounded quite good. Loving these lessons. Extremely useful information.
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
So did I that triple tonguing is as good as Ive heard and easy to use
@only4posting
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Can the Akai be used to send keystrokes/commands/other, to cubase, and act like a 2nd keyboard , to execute commands, macros, e.t.c ? (Just like the big touch screen from Zimmer works) Thanks
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
@@only4posting no no really as it cant be programmed
In Logic you can also set the MIDi recoding to be additive and put the controller stuff straight on the same track. Menu Option is: Overlapping MIDI Recordings > Merge. Most DAWS must have something similar
I can use a MIDI track to input KEY SWITCHES?!? ARGHHH!!! Why didn't nobody tell me this before?!? Thank you, Guy! Your videos are great as always. Keep up the excellent work!
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
That's why you subscribed!
@EmilioNavas
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation This is a Cuabese feature or I can use in Logic as well? Great tip!
@KevboKev
4 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Brito I’m confused. What are the key switches he is adding?
@slybrito
4 жыл бұрын
@@KevboKev The first time he is adding key switches to a MIDI track is to the timpani track. He alternates between "Hits" and "Rolls". I was amazed by it because I usually add the key switches directly to the instrument track but that's difficult to manage. Having a MIDI track (very light on the ram and cpu) to input only the key switches is a great solution because is very easy to follow and edit without messing by mistake a instrument track.
@KevboKev
4 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Brito ahhhhh.....makes complete sense now. Thank you!!
Hello Guy. Could you please consider doing a video on which DAW you prefer and WHY, and also about your music/piano/computer setup etc...and the bare minimum needs you could get away with. Thanks a lot. : )
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
OK will do
@lindapoulton2982
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Guy! : )
I’ve watched many significantly less talented KZread composers who also have a huge knob in the center of the screen, even without this software.
So glad I stumbled on this video. Really cool watching you work and break this down. I've had Ultimate for about a year now and have largely avoided this, but now I'm inspired. New subscriber :)
Finally an indepth review of the Essentials package. Thanks so much Guy, I've been looking for this for a while! Gives a great idea of what you get with the Ultimate edition in regards to the Symphonic sounds. Also, have you ever used the Kontakt Base Library's Orchestral sounds? What are your thoughts on those?
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
I haven't to be honest but Ill put it on my to do list!
@ashrayshiva4088
4 жыл бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Awesome! Looking forward to it! :)
Thank again for great tips on a rainy day. You Rock!!!!
Great video. Also a really good piece of music. The sound of the VST is amazing - I am pretty sure, that I will buy it during the next black friday week.
OMG "Step input" is amazing ! thanks for that
Just excellent! Jamming out an epic cinematic sound - both entertaining and educational all in one! Thks
Amazing library.. I just made articulations sets for these libraries in Logic. Mind blowing sounds..
@theoriginalheartstrummer
4 жыл бұрын
I still find it really difficult to get a decent roll on snare, bass drum, suspended cymbal or timpani that goes for the length I want it to.
14:17 was that Lugia's Theme from Pokemon? :o
Great videos. So uplifting. Hands up! I have learned dozens of useful cubase functions and tips on composing in general.
Very nice practical review fof NI Symphony Essentials. Thank you Guy. I can see the niche that this fits into for production needs. The speed at which you assembled a track on the fly was just what I needed to see. Appreciated. JL
I will love to know your opinion about NI Symphony Series regarding the Essentials version. Great video as always!
I have Nucleus as well as purchased the Komplete 12 Ultimate bundle and going to be mixing and matching based on the tonality I want for certain scores/music compositions. Some sound better and more articulate for a specific sound. Overall awesome video! Love you content
Bonjour Guy , Simple direct efficace as usual Merci Marc
You are fun to watch and I learn a lot too! Even with your manic motions lol. Love it, just subscribed.
Top drawer, thank you for yet another entertaining and inspiring vid.
For something "thrown together" the results are rather impressive. But then your skills and experience are just a fraction above average! (To say the least.)
These might not seem expensive to most people but they are still waaaaayyyy out of my minuscule budget; I'm utterly in agreement that you get what you pay for, and I wish I could afford the Komplete package AND all the amazing Spitfire packs, but alas, buying that AKAI thing is more than I can afford right now. Oh well... Keep up the great (and entertaining) work. I've just bought your 'How to Write Music' course so I look forward to getting stuck in on that!
@falkemusic4423
4 жыл бұрын
Zoe Summers, for people on a tiny budget East West’s composer cloud is probably the way to go. Much more content and significantly better sounds than NI Essentials as well.
wow.. 2 minutes in and I've learnt about diminishing frequencies and what you consider "essential". All whilst being drawn to your charisma :) looks like I'm in for a ride with this video lol well done :D
the 36 woodwind players bit had me in stitches 😂😂🤣
I bought the symphony essentials a while back. I really like how they sound, but when I was working on one of my video game covers I noticed they were a bit limited. I recently bought Session Strings Pro 2 and there's a noticeable improvement in quality and functionality. If I had to get one or the other, I'd choose Session String Pro 2, but the symphony essential strings provides that big orchestral sound so a combination of both is great if you have the money. The other symphony essentials are great (although don't expect to get the same small band sound you might want for funk/reggeaton/jazz).
I would love for him to be my boss! Awesome
Hello, excellent video. I have an important question. From minute 15 to minute 16 you make a recording on the Roll piano, you give some option to be able to record slowly and the eighth notes are written. You do it with woodwings. Can you tell me how to activate this wonderful tool? Greetings from Spain.
Thank you so much for this review.
I love your enthusiasm and energy. Keep it up!
This was fun. Thanks for sharing how you write it.
I bought this library (essentials) some years ago, but find some instruments very bad sounding. Also, if I remember correctly, the brass ensembles sound an octave too low. Very nice trick with the keyswitch track, I will absolutely use it! And using a controller for the low key switches is nice as well, I only have a drum pads on my midi keyboard, and I think they are all too high programmed.
@dawnstonemusic4408
4 жыл бұрын
André van Haren I agree with you. You can get good results with NI essentials by bypassing some instruments Weaknesses, but on the long stretch you may be limited. I’m still using the Essentials Strings, but for brass and woodwinds I bought additionnal librairies from Spitfire and Cinematic Studio to have more flexibility. I still believe with the Komplete Ultimate bundle that the essentials serie is an excellent starting point for the price though.
SUPER GREAT composition !!! Merveilleux !
Crossgrade means they give you a discount if you're using a competing software from a different developer. It mainly exists for people who are satisfied with what they've got but are interested in trying something else.
"Why would you need so many woodwinds?" *laughs in concert band*
The software is ok I want to know whats the best orchestra software out there and the best realistic bass and guitar software out to use with kontakt?
@bryangl1
4 жыл бұрын
Asking a question like this you should indicate your price limit. The best orchestra software costs thousands!
I found the Komplete symphony series generally have very strong attack, which I appreciate
I’m subscribed! Never heard of this Guy before but I’m hooked now!
Inspirational and entertaining video, thank you Guy!
Thanks Guy.. That's a great piece of Advice
My main takeaway from this video is that I’ll actually start using that KZread notification bell. You know.... “the thiiing!” 😄
Nice review. I have the Symphony Series Professional and I think is probably the worst of the expensive libraries. There are 3 main reasons. 1) The sound is wet as a river. Yes, it sounds good in a mockup with synths or metal music, even usable for epic cinemanic music. But definitely not usable itself. Symphony in the name of the product tells me it can be used for classical music but that is the only think it can't really be used for. I mean yeah, The cello sounds amazing! Violins are not bad but also nothing special. Double bass is not that bad untill you play the lowest octave. And the pizzicato or spiccato rather sounds like a techno bass drum than classical instrument. Violas are just horrible. 2) Considering the Strings being wet and having a huge reverb themselves, additional reverb function is turned ON on any instrument you load. So if you load like 5 violin instances into Kontakt for 5 articulations, you then have to go into the MIXER section of every single one and turn the reverb off. I Just wonder why would anyone add any reverb to such instrument, having tonns of reverb itself. I usually try tu process the reverb down. 3) Sple and record Ing quality of Brass and Woodwinds. I mean, who tried to put their headphones on and just hit random staccato note and hear how the sound develops? Well, immediately after you Press the key, there is a ton of noise starting to hiss. You can also hear the surrounding noise like crackling and something that sounds like other people just walling around you! I mean where was this recorded at? Headphones on, completely perfect silence. Press some Horn ensemble staccato, you hear 1 second of horns and 5 second of surrounding noise and hissing noise from some really cheap bad microphones, both very loud. Suddenly as the sample length is over, all shuts down immediately and there is a perfect silence again. Worst of the worst...
I forgot…. And I guess you did not find out. This Libary can be dynamically microtuned. And if you do it with the oddsound microtuning suite you get a real perfect sound.
I wish I lived in London, so I could come work for you! I'd be sure to bring tea every morning! Thanks again for another great video!
I have this and have used it quite a lot, what would you recommend as the next library to got for a beginner? I'm thinking of getting Spitfire's Albion One
That's a great review Guy. THANKS
what kind of computer you need to hold all this power and run smooth. my laptop burns with one kontakt open :)
Your editing is incredible haha!
The upgrade is probably for Kontakt owner etc. And i bet it gets really cheap. Speaking of which, Upgrading from Kontakt to Komplete Ultimate(during black Friday sale) is the best bang for your buck you can ever hope to get. Look it up guys. Thanks for the video.
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
There's a load of good stuff in there - you're right
always a blast to see you at work guy,i use an akai thingy for mixing the main category of instruments (strings,brass,woodwinds,etc) because of the limited (8) sliders there are for keyswitches i use a mini keyboard with 1,5 octave,and i transpose if need be,anyway,nice composition
Quick question, I used this library for string but I dont know why the attack on the string is very weak and I needed to bring the midi note a bit before the grid in order for it to play in time...are there anyway i can fix this?
If you know how to use that stuff, its pretty powerful. I also thought about mixing orchestral libraries to create a more diverse sound maybe. I can recommend the EastWest libraries too.
I remember this channel from the time I used to write music, now I'm coming back into music production and I'm at point of choosing once again what libraries to buy...and since I have the budget atm I almost bought the NI Collector's Edition...thanks for reminding me to take it stept by step, cheers!
The Series version was worth the extra dough. Until you buy something like metropolis ark 1&2
Nice use of La folia.
Well this video made me subscribe very quick and I have to say, after using Composer Cloud for close to a year, I think this interface seems massively more usable. Now I'm no wiz when it comes to midi instruments, so maybe I just used it wrong, but this seems vastly more usable.
Genial... Feliz Año 2022! ... 🙋🏻♂🇲🇽
GREAT. Congratulations. Hugs from Brazil.
I'd like a creating video with ambient/cinematic music. Just an idea. Thanks for videos and music. ;)
Nice video ! Good job sir and great sense of humour :)
I did drop spitfire and for intermediate solution this libary with an update to Kontakt Ultimate 13 is a cheap and great deal for less than 200 €. NI offers twice a year such discounts. I finally will go to VSL. Spitfire lost because with them you just get only a restricted rental system. I do not have all libaries installed. Just those that I use and need actual. In fact it takes recently 2 days and service support just to install the Lower strings of Spitfire. They restrict installations. And you can not sell their Libaries. For Studends in my mind a big handicap. You need to have everything the most new system.
Guy, your composition style is making me want to start playing bass trombone again!
@ThinkSpaceEducation
4 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
I like just a little of the intonation issues.... makes it sound more real world where even the best players are imperfect and so produce subtle audible beats in a section rather than perfection which can sound a little sterile... but of course it's all about context.... anyway.... great channel!
wOOOOOOOwww! GREAT videos, and great explanation! Very useful and clear! Thanks a lot!
"I don't need 178 brass players." That's good, because I need them to wake me up in the morning.
I am badly stuck with the HARMONY part where we have 2 to 3 sections of Strings and woodwinds supporting the Main Melidy with a sub Melody .... it sounds so full ... if I could learn the way around that then I M ON FIRE😎