I watch your videos on gear all the time. This one I didn't think I NEEDED to because the module is pretty simple. By god was I wrong. This is such a useful video, full of so many helpful and flat out mind blowing tips. I bet make noise crew hasn't even thought of half of these. Thank you!

that subharmonic quantization idea was brilliant. you're def the ben eater of synths, sharing a wealth of knowledge and empowering/ inspiring folks to learn and do cool stuff. thanks for being awesome

I have had this sequencer/keyboard/controller for about three months and am just in awe of its simplicity, flexibility, and usefulness. It's like a wonderful sketchbook for musical ideas.

love the neutral second interval at 1:12! so glad to see more unquantized powerful standalone sequencers

I can't thank you enough for the amount of high quality reviews you do. I've been going through Thomann for days finding things I hadn't heard of in the 10 months I stopped following the synth scene and 90% of them you've had a video on. Really impressive. You're channel is my go to

Man, you are SO creative, and yet so organized and logical in how you communicate. Such a great resource for the community, not just about this particular instrument but how to THINK about these kinds of instruments. Thank you!

The video edits are fantastic. Thank you Ziv. I can't help think of your video edits as a fined tuned set of chord progressions walking us though a visual delight. The visual anticipation is always wonderfully resolved and focused. Not being lost on us. Keep up the great content. Bravo.

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

Really well done and informative video. I have one of these showing up tomorrow possibly and have lots of cool ideas to start with now! Thanks for your work!

Hey ziv, i have had the best day. Was brushing up on my ocontrol with ocoast and strega, and watched this tute through the lot with sub harmonic sequences in the background, all through the strymon nightsky. Your voice really cuts through the mix nicely. I think you once said "infinite reverb is awesome" agreed. I am a patron and really cant thank you enough for your work. 👍

@loopop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for your support and for taking the time to write!

Very interesting demo, thank you!

Wonderful demo as always!

Wirklich wieder ein sehr gutes Tutorial. Sehr spannend und hilfreich. Merci !

Make Noise makes great devices, thanks for the awesome review!

Fifth or eighth viewing; just took delivery of my 0-CTRL two days ago. I'm now having even more fun with my Blue Marvin 2600 clone! After Musique Concrete', I learned synthesis on a Buchla 100 (I'm 67 now), so my choice of keyboard was obviously touch-plates and the analog sequencer. You talk about some subtleties here, that are going to bring me back for a few more viewings. My next stop is your "Ever Expanding Book" {available if you are one of the Loopop Patreon Supporters and if you're not it's your Great Loss!}, to see what you've put out there. The book has added much to what I "thought I knew" and hadn't imagined. Oddly, I haven't "killed a tree" (yet) and tried to print it; you keep Updating the book! Thank you SO much for what you have provided this community!

@loopop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for taking the time to write and for being a part of what makes this channel happen!

Don't know how many times I've watched this video :) And keep coming back. Wish you would do this with Strega and 0-CTRL.

I’ve had 0-Cntrl for a few weeks (no 0-Coast as yet). Lots of fun but top find so far is dynamic gate output into exp fm on a self resonating filter, with a bit of delay & reverb added, not clocked to the beat. ❤️

Didnt even realised there is this new exciting piece on the market. Seems very interessting. So its basically similar to the Pressure Points but way more capable. It looks like a really good controller for bring live into patches

as always, excellent tutorial. Would love to hear these two Make Noise modules paired with the Moog Grandmother.

Great review Ziv! That's a really interesting and smartly designed sequencer/controller, I must say. If I owned an 0-Coast it would be an irresistable paring. I do lament the lack of a quantized output though.

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks yep even though all the workarounds I showed work, it would have been nice to have it there

4 0CTRL videos in an hour Wow! Yours has 22:50 : NIN -Closer subharmonics yeah! 25:50 'interesting things start to happen' I like it and I feel good btw beatstep's real pro in comparison is saving patterns but for that, I'd choose this thingy if it was either or

I got my 0-coast and 0-ctrl last thursday. I connected it with my Zoom G2 and get some nice results.

Great video. Maybe both of these would be a good fit with my Deluge. Presumably, the MIDI clock from the Deluge could be patched from the 0-COAST to the 0-CTRL so the sequencer would be synced to the Deluge but I could touch the pads for modulation?

A little bit of *NIN - Closer* coming in at 22.50, nice...

Ive finally assembled a fun eurorack! So much fun :) dual midi cv converter, dual vco, dual filter, dual adsr, vca and a mixer with fx + 3 cable bundles Ca 1000$ but completely worth it. New song each day with Play+ sequencer ❤❤❤❤

Sees angle of the power cable going into the 0-CTRL *0-CD intensifies*

@TheNewNumberTw0

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah good lord that's upsetting.

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

yep... this is a prototype though, so hopefully the production models will be straighter...

@blaythessteuer

4 жыл бұрын

Migraine Gainn wish i didn’t read this i have 15 min of video left lol egregious

@sonalsystem

3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop and they're not...moving on,

Wow... this is like having two Pressure Points and a Brains. I'm glad I didn't buy exactly that about two months ago when I was sitting with those in my cart on analoghaven. I'm guessing this will be similarly priced or cheaper.

Getting mine tomorrow. Pairing it with an Pittsburgh Modular sv-1b and gunna sample the two of them into a Polyend Tracker. Pretty pumped, pray for me, I am new to all of this, lol.

@mgbolusm

3 жыл бұрын

Any issues? Thinking of an 0-ctrl for my Pittsburgh Modular Microvolt.

0-CTRL as an oscillator!!! WHOOOOOOAAAA!!!

Best review on the 0-CTRL, with amazing patching ideas! I would only love to see how you can add more steps. It sounded a bit complicated.

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Like I mentioned it requires a clock divider and sequential or voltage controlled switch. I might show it in a future video

@ethermod307

4 жыл бұрын

@@loopop Oh yes I think I get it now. You've got all 3 outputs connected to your V/Oct input and then use a switch to turn each row on and off. Right?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly - and the timing of when you skip rows determines the length or craziness of your sequence

@ethermod307

4 жыл бұрын

@@loopop Amazing, isn't it? I was checking all these eurorack sequencers constantly and I was never happy, couldn't deal with all the menu's and data typing. This is exactly what I wanted and I didn't know it before!

Hello, in the minute 15:50 Sub Osc, could the keyboard be connected via midi? Would it work the same?

What are the cv settings on the sample drum set to? I am new to this but have o-cntrl o-coast and drum. Thanks

Is that power cable bent, or is the input jack not straight? Either way it's triggering the ever loving hell out of my OCD. Now I have to touch the doorknob 501 times alternating between right and left hands. It's going to be a long night.

Excellent video. I'm just now getting into synths. I have only a Behringer Crave so far. With just the 0-CTRL, can you create and save a custom sequence from keyboard mode, like a song essentially? Or can it only ever play notes sequentially?

Good stuff. Could one perhaps use something like the AllFlesh finger cv touch jack thingies to make fills?

“A nice and potentially interesting and pleasing rhythmic outcome” I love your words.

What type of pressure points+brains is this?

Brilliant

What enclosure and additional modules are you using with the Erica Sample Drum ? Is there any other desktop devices you would recommend to add drums to the Make Noise pairing?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

See description for the case. Regarding recommendations - you can add any drum machine, but if you want a voltage controlled one, no non modular one comes to mind

Finger snap transitions are my favorite =]

Hi. What is the brand of the small modular case ?

i have some non modular synths, that do have some minimal CV ...could they still be made use of somehow hooked into this? Moog Subsequent Novation Bassstation R TD-3 or is the intern in going to be too limited ?

@houzetbaptiste2562

4 жыл бұрын

Most of the time these kind of synth have only a pitch and a gate intput, so yes you'll be pretty limited. I think something like the beatstep would be more efficient. I don't think that all the cool stuff like subharmonics won't work with these synth. Not 100 percent sure, they maybe tricks to do wild stuff but most of the time you will be able to use only one row. If you want a sequencer with knob you should try to find the korg one on used market it would me more adapted to your setup.

thx!

Super helpful as always! Will you do a video on the Strega as well?

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Not likely ...

is it possible to stop it by external clock? Does he play all the time?

Is there a particular sequential switch that might par well with Ocontrol to increase the length of a sequence to 16 or 24 steps ,and how would you go about patching it up ? (maybe this is another video ) love your work by the way !

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Any one will do. Boss Bow Tie 2 can do a bunch of other things too

Hi, thanks for the great video. Does the unit send the three voltages even if you don’t press a key?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks and yes, the last value

Wondering where i can pick up the little euro case you have the Erica Synths Sample Drum in

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

See description

You called the 0-coast “no coast” in your video. The most obvious name for this device is therefore “no control”. Fitting, I think 😂

Hi, does the cock take an irregular clock in? Does it advance a step by trigger? Thank you for another great video!

Yo, how do you snap your fingers and make the patch cables disappear? It would save me so much time...

After 20+ years, i was finally weeks away from buying all the doepfer A-15- modules, and the 160-5, - having used an MPC60II with Kenton converters up until now. well it's been a long wait, but i'm glad i did, - might still buy the Quantizer/156 though.. ~ i wonder, would the A-160-5 be a good addition to this??

@scottkinder4888

4 жыл бұрын

i assume you mean you are talking about the doepfer sequencers, not switches? lots of fun combos to imagine, a-160-2 and a-160-5 among them. I worship at the church of ALM pamela's new workout for a master clock (with divide and multiply, swing, slop, + bonus envelopes, gates, euclidean patterns, etc..it's seriously the best deal in modular), but the 160-5 is awesome for ratcheting, and 160-2 gives you weird prime number divisors for the clock so you get complex poly-rhythms (and so avoid repetition). for a quantizer, intellijel scales or addac207 i highly recommend checking out. haven't tried the doepfer a-156 personally but i think the scales or addac207 are more intuitive, and addac207 is much more powerful because it's actually a quad quantizer, so you can do 4 cv's simultaneously, plus you can queue up realtime key modulations, and likewise modulate back to the original key which is pretty slick when you are just sending it random cv's. for me, this new 0-ctrl is super exciting because of the velocity sensitivity per pad, the envelope per step (rather than just a gate--thinking of it like 8 AD's). I am not really seeing it for melodies (due to being unquantized for pitch), but this 0-ctrl is definitely going to get some love. it's obviously built for live play, i think of it more like a live-playable modulation sequencer, adding feel to rhythm parts and using those envelopes to ctrl vca's and filters. the sequenced cv but un-quantized is excellent to move filter cutoff or resonant points around, where 'close enough' is fine; we are not playing notes. some modules it brings to mind for me are intellijel tetrapad, malekko voltage block, which both i love, but i'll def be getting this, it's a very cool interface to me. hope that's helpful, best of luck on your musical journeys:)

Can you use a sequential switch to get more steps on the DFAM?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Yes - I’ll explain how in the upcoming update to my book

Your O-Coast & O-Ctrl videos are so inspiring - thank you!!! Is it possible to quantize the time channel knobs?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Baritone Behemoth thanks! Not that I know other than what I show in this video - which is a partial solution

@baritonebehemoth

4 жыл бұрын

loopop thanks for the reply! Can’t wait to dig into the subharmonics this weekend :)

How does this differ from having 2 pressure points and a brain (other than size and an internal clock)?

@krismenn29

4 жыл бұрын

Origin ST Same question here

Okay I’ve been watching your video for ages!! And I really want to know: where is your accent from?????

my one question tho - where do i find those side cheeks for the Erica Sample Drum? they look fantastic!

@RPLKTR

4 жыл бұрын

I'd also like to know. It looks like a cut Moog Mother ecosystem case with some custom lunchbox power through the wooden cheek.

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

See description....

Ziv is probably so into subharmonics now because he must have already recorded his review of the upcoming Moog synthesizer :-)

Question: at 24:28, you mention that it's possible to create longer sequences, stepping through the layers. How would that work? Thanks!

@loopop

2 жыл бұрын

I addressed this as a patch on my Patreon - you can join and look for the post that reviews the 0-ctrl and leave before the end of the month and pay nothing if you don't want to

@GlennArango

2 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thanks... for the reply and all the content!!!!!

Make Noise is the perfect name for this company. 😉

@sliceofsparta8985

3 жыл бұрын

Especially considering their apparent hatred of quantization.

Sequencer on the Minibrute 2S suddenly seems extremely good value, 4 lanes not 3 and 64 steps not 8 oh and a whole synth too. Bought the 0-coast yesterday.

@Gruftgrabbler

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love the MiniBrute 2S, the only thing I wish is the ability to step record the sequence like you can do on the BeatStep Pro

@mikeexits

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gruftgrabbler Yeah, it's unfortunate when you aren't able to step record. Even Volcas have this feature. But I think I'd rather have live record and no step record, than step record and no live record. There's something special about playing something once and having it loop on a sequence. Then again, there's also something to be said about programming a sequence that's either outside the user's playing ability, or difficult/impossible for humans to play at all.

@FastRCToys

4 жыл бұрын

And with a minibrute you can make some noise also ;)

@Getthenderson

4 жыл бұрын

You can dial in each note on each step on the MB2S.

@MH-rt9ts

4 жыл бұрын

Where are you getting an 0-Coast right now? Everywhere I look it's out of stock.

Cool… But definitely my 3rd choice for an analog sequencer in a world where the Korg SQ-1 and Doepfer Dark Time exist.

I’m trying to figure out the difference between an 0-ctrl vs 2 x pressure points

Hi, I'm finally getting a 0-Coast after waiting 6 months (due to Covid causing delivery/supply problems). However, when I first saw your review of the above 0-Ctrl, I thought, yes, let's get the two pieces, they'll clearly be perfect together. However, between time I recently saw the KORG SQ-64 which looks very interesting indeed (although clearly not a modular synth), but it does seem to have some very interesting qualities which the 0-Ctrl sort of lacks (and even covers some of the weaknesses too). So, my question is should I go ahead with the 0-Ctrl as the sequencer option, or maybe wait a few month for the Korg SQ-64. Of course I understand your answer could be simply, "it depends on what you want it for", but maybe you could give me a few pros and cons for the two sequencers, which both look attractive in their own ways. Thanks in advance.

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

You guessed my answer correctly... everything I know about both sequencers is in this and the SQ-64 review - if you want a summary of the pros and cons it's in that section of the video of course. Sorry, don't know what to say beyond that...

@cardboardmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop No problem. One of the things that I thought was interesting in your reviews was the abstract way in which 0-Ctrl handles rhythm and pitch, but as you say, this can be frustrating as well as liberating. On the other hand I see that you seem to use your two MakeNoises with the KeyStep and the need to quantize, which points to something fundamental about pitch to make sense.

Looks awesome and just ordered one to use with my Make Noise 0-coast and new modular system. Can you send the CV to multiple modular synths? So have it sequence a 0-coast and Doepfer A100 system at same time on different tracks?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Sure

@GuitarsAndSynths

4 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thanks and can you use it like a clock to send a clock signal to a eurorack module that requires clock signal like the Malekko envelope module or would I send clock from the 0-coast to the Malekko EG sequencer module?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Renaissance Man you could from either - clock is just a simple trigger that repeats (assuming what your sending it to can detect it properly)

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

I’m not familiar with the malekko module but clock is just a repeating trigger

Does anyone know how the time row behaves when using external clock? can you have a master clock running the octrl and then use the time knobs to manipulate the groove of downstream synths ? @loopop

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

I give an example of this in the video, but I've not totally reverse engineered it...

@tomburnell8453

4 жыл бұрын

​@@loopop Thanks - I missed that - I skipped through as I've already watched 3 reviews :) From your example it seems like it just skips some of the steps. I wonder if it had been digital whether it might have been able to take in a hires /24 clock and then be able to shift backwards/forwards the steps in time to apply a groove/swing to patterns whilst still being in sync. Interesting little box - will you buy one?

Regarding the tip at 8:20 -- what other sample players do you all know of that could work this way? Disting perhaps or Tsunami Nutella?

Great video as usual. I have an 0 coast and I'm thinking about selling my digitakt for this to use as a sequencer, am I nuts?

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Not nuts, you can replace an iPad with a pencil and still get a lot out of a pencil (not kidding)

@niloben659

3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop True, not sure a pencil will help too much with my gas though.....

Hello, who made you that wonderful miniature eurorack enclosure?

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

See description

@Nokanmusic

3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thank you :)

@19:15 just great

Unrelated but did DSI never send you a Pro 3 to review? I'd like to see your take on it

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Made In Machines thanks, no they weren’t interested. I would love to try it out but it doesn’t make sense to buy one at this time

13:47 Subharmonic sequencing is a lot like a analog quantizer!

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed that's what I call it in the timeline ;)

this O ctrl could be a DFAM's best friend also !

@FastRCToys

4 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid DFAM will never have a friend ;)

@eternalvoid2678

4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't you run into issues with voltage ranges? The DFAM doesn't follow the Eurorack standard.

@thom-alphaxiii-5106

4 жыл бұрын

@@eternalvoid2678 got no issue between my DFAM and other eurorack modules. the "time" and "strengh" sequencers on the 0CTRL are perfect for DFAM. I already got an O coast with the DFAm and they pair so well (as long as you got a quantizer, love the micro tonal stuffs but sometimes it's a real pain in the ass - and a DFAM quantized is such a great synth outside of its percussive nature). i just wonder how does this Octrl competes with a rené mk2 in a tiny case.....

Great stuff👾 You mentioned in the sequnce part that you can feed multiple outputs in one input and it doesnl't damage the system. is it true for other MakeNoise gear (strega and 0 Coast)?

@michaelandrews9718

Жыл бұрын

Yes, at least for 0-Coast. I don’t remember the source, but I think in one of the official Make Noise videos for the 0-Coast or the instruction manual for it, they say this.

@parsa.mostaghim

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelandrews9718 Thank you

How can I get my hands on a Erica Sample Drum standalone? Looks great.

@holografik3327

4 жыл бұрын

it's a tiny eurorack case with SD and 2 others modules :you have to buy modules and case separatly i think

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed Sample Drum is a module that needs a case to work

@NathanChisholm041

4 жыл бұрын

www.ericasynths.lv/shop/eurorack-modules/by-series/drum-series/sample-drum/

@O5krUrrutia

4 ай бұрын

@@loopop Where can I buy that tiny eurorack case?

I value your MakeNoise videos, particularly of the 0-Coast and 0-Control -- full of ideas and creative info. But I don't find anything here on the Strega? In the works? No plans? ...

@loopop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! No plans currently unfortunately

So it’s a hipster SQ1? ;) One that I want very much

@loopop

2 жыл бұрын

LOL now you made my feel my review is incomplete

This is like 2 pressure points, brains and some more ”goodies” right?

silly question time! can you control each sequence row seperately and send one row in one direction and one row in another? or stop one row and keep the others going?

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

no - wouldn't that be nice!

@martinslatten1983

4 жыл бұрын

might be a possible mod, if someone wanted to void their warranty to find out lol I personally wouldn't but I know there's adventurous synth folk out there

@tomburnell8453

4 жыл бұрын

I think you just get 2 :)

I dont understand that 16/ 24 step thing

If it's the No Coast, shouldn't the other one be the No Control?

@CoenBijpost

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Quite a fitting name, I think 😂

For this money I prefer the keystep pro ^^

@milztempelrowski9281

4 жыл бұрын

what is the money, can't find

@fredrikakerberg_

4 жыл бұрын

@@milztempelrowski9281 399$

@milztempelrowski9281

4 жыл бұрын

@@fredrikakerberg_ YAIKES! Ok. Keystep pro it is:D

There are some things digital does better and sequencing is one of them in my opinion.

I'm not convinced. I see the potential but quantization is really missing. There's purity and there's convenience. This has purity but a tad more convenience would have been good. Unless Makenoise sees something I haven't yet seen (let's not discount that.)

@busch028

4 жыл бұрын

Alex Petit-Bianco There’s plenty of products available that have quantize but I see your point. I think Make Noise tends to gravitate towards not “conforming to the norm.” They like you to get out of your comfort zone and explore sonic possibilities that don’t necessarily fall within the typical “rules” of music. I don’t think they do this in a snobby way, but in a fun “get experimental” way.

@tomburnell8453

4 жыл бұрын

yeah. if it was built in, they could have provided slide too. Otherwise you need a quantiser and a slew and another sequencer for the slew and... etc

If the 0-Coast is No Coast, shouldn't this be No Control?

@RobertMaxwellMediaCorp

4 жыл бұрын

That'd be quite a gimmick wouldn't it? "Here's our new controller sequencer.... with no controls!"

@sanfordmusic

4 жыл бұрын

Correct. They call it Zero Control or No Control.

@beyondthegong

4 жыл бұрын

They all have three names - it’s been that way since day 1.

@querydelacroix2919

4 жыл бұрын

"They have names." Brilliant conversational contribution. I'm sure you're a riot at parties.

@beyondthegong

4 жыл бұрын

Query Delacroix Can you even read?

What are your suggestion?? 0-coast and 0-ctrl.. and then?? Strega? Something else? If so.. What?

Oh but there IS a slew limiter you can use… kzread.info/dash/bejne/iK6AysWDZsqXZM4.html

@loopop

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I thought of that of course, but the "slew limiter" on 0-Coast is not a voltage controlled one though and it has some limitations compared to a true one (the attack stage peaks, kind of messing things up). It's a nice hack, but not a real voltage controlled one

@bkvision2

4 жыл бұрын

@@loopop Haha yes, I should have put "slew limiter" in quotes!

Nice aesthetic with the 0-Coast but for 400$... It's luxury.

@ericMT

4 ай бұрын

Make Noise is designed and built in the USA unlike almost every other synthesizer and controller made today. So the prices are higher and sales are significantly lower than Chinese made products like Arturia, Behringer, Korg, Roland etc. I respect what they are doing, they are achieving a lot with their small team of people in North Carolina.

While they are awesome.... at around $500 for each......kinda steep.... and then u would want a keyboard, that's another $300 at least....... I dont understand why sound making equipment is so expensive still today. I mean analoge I can understand a little the price of good components.... But like sample based grooveboxs....I mean my $100 smartphone is way more powerful and can do wayyy more than a $1000 sampler.....

Thank you Makenoise, as an owner of 1010music Toolbox and Squarp Hermod, to make me smiling... 399 for this ? I can buy 4 Korg's SQ1 for this price and make some music, not only noise...

Make noise videos do not sufficiently cover the O Control’s controls.

And the price is a relatively modest...$399? Errr, no.

@holografik3327

4 жыл бұрын

for make noise standards yes it is lol

@hansjaap

4 жыл бұрын

Compared to existing Eurorack sequencers with similar connectivity it's not bad.

@Nick1921945

9 күн бұрын

Can you name something that does everything this does at the same quality or better for half of the cost? Relatively means relating to something. Compared to a 800-1k device, yes 400 is cheap

The behringer Crave is cheaper and more interesting.

@blaythessteuer

4 жыл бұрын

Barbie Chêtif what an goofy comparison LOL

@beyondthegong

4 жыл бұрын

MEHringer

too complicate