I’m a dad with the old Hightower get off my lawn!

@vultussursum165

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have two, one *unused* (F.S. $7000) and one well used I keep at the cabin 2018 Medium XX1 Carbon Reserve, Factory 36 Hightower LTs and I rode this new 2020 thinking "Ooh la la, newest, latest, greatest!" but was so disappointed it made me sad that Santa Cruz have left their heritage and followed Specialized "Downhill". Where's the POP, where's the SNAP, where's the CLIMB? Too bad they've left their VPP heritage and gone downhill Geo.

@dantribby199

4 жыл бұрын

Dont we all!

I love watching videos of bikes I can't afford

@cadecompton7713

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I like how he went on about the steeper seat tube angle being better for climbing when the vast majority of the footage shows him out of the saddle.

@dylan_stucki

5 жыл бұрын

You're right about the footage... haha, but the climbing position is actually really nice. I'm coming from a Trek Slash at the moment, and I can't get the seat far enough forward. The steeper seat tube does allow you get more over the front of the bike, which is especially noticeable on steeper climbs.

@Cartsp70

5 жыл бұрын

Kris Celeste it probably climbs like you’re in quick sand ! Ridiculously over priced like all SC , I just had my 5010 Xe serviced , cost £400 ! Free bearings is the SC Warranty? Absolute bs , you have to pay for everything , 😤😤😤😤😤

@bmar560

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cartsp70 bearings are free, labour to replace them is not.

@chrishuyler3580

3 жыл бұрын

Well, coming from a 2012 Tallboy LT (140f/135r older geometry) I gotta say the new Hightower climbs great whether you are seated or standing and my climbs are not nearly as buff as the ones in this video.

@johnnimmo4114

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cartsp70 shame you just cannot get everything for free isn't it??? SMH!!!!

Finally, a review that's not just a guy rambling on over some GoPro helmet cam footage! Great review and great format - just the right mix of information and on-the-bike action. Totally on point.

@dadventuretv2538

5 жыл бұрын

Lior Dayan just FYI- a lot of the vids that are just “talking over gopro footage” are just average people who have jobs, family and other obligations taking time to put up a vid about their thoughts on a bike to hopefully help others and don’t have the time or resources to produce a slick vid like this. I don’t think you realize how much time goes into just filming and editing a gopro vid, let alone something like this. Not saying you gotta watch or like the gopro talking vids, but realize that the people putting them up are doing it for free, outta their spare time, for their love of the sport and to help others maybe make a better decision on which bike to buy.

@finkelmann

5 жыл бұрын

​@@dadventuretv2538 I'm fully aware of that - i'm on of those guys myself:) Been "volunteering" in various biking magazines for over a decade, as a photographer and technical reviewer- always out of pure passion, with no or very little pay, while managing a full time job, family, etc... And, being a photographer myself, i fully appreciate the technical effort as well. So i'm not saying this out of disrespect. However, i've grown a little tired of seeing 15minute unedited helmet footage "reviews" where the guy hops on the bike for the first time, rides a couple of trails, and ends up saying very little about the bike itself. Most of those videos can be a quarter in length, and much more informative, with hardly any added effort. So, while i appreciate their passion to review and share their thoughts, i think some constructive criticism is due.

@taylorvice1610

3 жыл бұрын

@@finkelmann werd!

You are right. My 80 year old Dad rides a 2018 Hightower. Thank God I can buy one now.

You've sold me, I'm going to buy that by the end of the year. Wish they had more color options but the desert tan is cool.

Nice review. My girlfriend used to have the "dad's bike" and she was quite happy with it. The only thing I resent is that the seat tube angle gets slacker with increasing frame size. The thing is, us taller riders pay the price of the slacker seat tube angle even more, as the effective angle is even slacker the higher you have your saddle. In reality, the XXL should have an extra degree added, not removed.

My dad loves his Hightower ;)

@mikaa1202

4 жыл бұрын

Mine too!

@rachet0708

Жыл бұрын

Me too

I bought this bike brand new, and 3 years later, I still love it as much as the day I bought it. I can't say anything negative about it. If your the type person that has to find something negative in everything we'll I guess you can knit pick it, but having rode a hardtail for 7 years getting on that bike was like a dream.

@no11477

Жыл бұрын

so worth it? I can buy also Santa Cruz Hightower Carbon LT as new fullsus. bike. Not sure yet

@rachet0708

Жыл бұрын

@HVPTai Mine is the alloy S build, it was worth every dime. I've never owned a Carbon bike, honestly don't see myself ever owning one, but Santa Cruz has a lifetime warranty on the frame, so make sure you get that transferred into your name, just in case. Yes, if you are getting a deal that you are happy with, go for it. Mine has the Lyric Select plus 150mm fork, 140mm Ultimate Deluxe plus shock, and SRAM Eagle GX drive train, I absolutely love everything about it, it is a freaking beast on the trail, great for XC or downhill.

@no11477

Жыл бұрын

@@rachet0708 thank you 😊

This dad tears it up on his 2019 matte black Hightower!

HTLT every day all day! Thug life!

Nice review!

Me: *watches video* My kidney: bro don’t leave me

*now that i saw this video, i'm considering getting this one*

Damn it I just bought the Megatower!

Damnit.. I am a dad. I need one of these.

How tall are you and which size bike were you riding?

Hey ! Really loved all the info! Super helpful! I’m looking for my first real bike. I live in near Nelson bc. Looking for a good all rounder as I can only have one bike atm. I’m currently looking at the Hightower aluminum R vs the S build(any other good do it all bike recommends are welcome around this price point.) have any thoughts on those two builds? Worth going up ? Thanks!

Easy with the Dad stuff. I'm a dad and I ride a Hightower!

What size did you ride and how tall are you. The added reach is mentioned which seems to be offset somewhat by the seat tube angle. With the added reach Santa Cruz’s size chart did not effectively change, so what does the added reach do…

Amazing Bike

Great video keep it op

How is the aluminum version for climbing? 34lbs is pretty dang heavy

The best of Santa Cruz is the low standover high, it fits all people

@elliottglynn5055

5 жыл бұрын

Seatbounced a megatower yesterday nearly had my shorts ripped off

Thinking of the hightower as my first 29er. Cant decide between hightower and bronsen as i ride enduro trails and do a lot of jumping, i do race enduro now and then but i mostly ride for fun. Any advice on wich one i should choose?

Would you choose the new high tower over the Bronson as your primary do it all bike if you could only have one to ride trails and do some bike park? I’m torn on the two I’ve never rode a 29er and I’m in the market for a new ride. Thank you

Dadbod describes an overbiked guy on a megatower, on smooth, manicured trails. Low travel bikes are under super athletic people who can put up with the punishment and smaller margin of error.

I’d love to know what the leverage rate is on this one. Starting and ending.

Nice review. I'm torn between a new bronson or a 29er. How's the HT compare. Thinking carbon rims so thinking about future bike builds with the 29ers... I've tested a bronson and really enjoyed it. Not been able to test anything else though.

@wero5531

5 жыл бұрын

I have ridden the new Hightower and the new Bronson. The Hightower felt like a Bronson with 29er wheels. It was so playful to ride, really didn't expect that. At the end I had to made the same decision as yours and I went for the new Hightower.

@russc5269

5 жыл бұрын

@@wero5531 thanks for the reply.. I'm just under 5 9" but test Rode the large bronson... It felt right and didn't know it was a large till after an hours riding. A mate brought it for me to demo.. I really liked it. I really want the rolling speed of 29s and being able to roll over stuff.. Would you say having a little less travel than the bronson is a problem?

at 5'9.5", what size would you ride? I currently have a Hightower LT in Large.

if you only could choose 1 bike, 2020 hightower or 2020 tallboy which do you go with?

So what's a dad bike in first place? Do I need one since I have a kid? Does my riding suck? Please help.

@Montblanc1986

5 жыл бұрын

Yes,yes and yes

@everywherelocal

5 жыл бұрын

@@Montblanc1986 thanks, much appreciated.

If stuck between sizes for an all mountain trail bike, size up or down??

What size did you ride in the video? What is your height?

Looks awsome but they screwed up the cable routing now you can't heat shrink. Hate sloppy cables.

Tallboy or Hightower? Whats your take after reviewing both of them?

@TheAllEngineering

3 жыл бұрын

Neither Long travel slack hardtail all day long !!!!

I’m on the fence between the HT or 5010... opinions anyone?

forking up to 160, here we come.

@Antweak83

5 жыл бұрын

Yew hew!!! Us too

Is this more of a downhill bike or more of trail bike ? Im going to be riding more flat land and the occasional hill decent . Thank in advance !

Any idea of what the leverage ratio is ? Progressive , regressive , linear ?

@vitalmtb

5 жыл бұрын

The Hightower is a progressive bike. Slightly less so than the Megatower, but more than in years past.

New Bronson vs new Hightower... Thoughts?

@cajeroautomatico

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely the Hightower. More versatile, 29er wheels are nice, happy to sacrifice 10mm travel for the bigger hoops. I demoed a Bronson yesterday (XL, I'm 6'2") and although the smaller wheels make the steering pretty light, I didn't feel any advantage. Even if you're looking for a bike that handles park days, I think I'd rather go with the Hightower over the Bronson. I'm a tall guy though, things may look different for smaller riders.

The big downer? It looks like all the models weigh about 10% more than the previous generation. That’s a pretty significant weight penalty.

No mention of reduced fork offset? SC probably doesn't want to give props to Transition for starting this trend.

@vitalmtb

5 жыл бұрын

A trend no doubt. Transition had the spotlight for a long time and people seem to know where things began. It's becoming quite common these days and for good reason!

sweet weapon

Any chance you could comment on how this new Hightower is vs the RM Instinct(not the bc version)? Currently looking at the instinct but this ride just came up at the local bike shop.

@jonathanschwarz3199

4 жыл бұрын

Second this question!

What size were you riding?? 6’4” 34 inseam can’t decide on a XL or XXL?

@jrc0004

4 жыл бұрын

Im 6'4" 36" inseam, and ride a XL 2018 Hightower., I am also 200 pounds lean.

@robmeyersjr.2901

4 жыл бұрын

I am just over 6’4 and about to snag a XXL. Weighing both options right now...

I’m a teenager in the Bay Area what is a good way to get money for a bike like this? I have a $1500 trek Gary fisher elite full suspension it works great but it comes with some cons

@rachet0708

Жыл бұрын

Work and save. I'm 50, rode cheaper hardtails for years. It took years, but I finally got the money to get one.

hot damn what trails are those?

@petertyliszczak3411

5 жыл бұрын

Treasure Trail - You can tell by the stump with the little penis coming off it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/do2Lt5dvYczdhLg.html

@researcher3967

5 жыл бұрын

@@petertyliszczak3411 hahaha cheers!

How tall are you and which size did you test?

@dylan_stucki

5 жыл бұрын

I'm 6'5" and I tested the XL. I really would like to also test the XXL, because that size will finally give me the same perspective as someone who is on a medium considering a new bike with almost a size up in the reach. I felt that since I am currently on an XL Trek Slash, the XL would be the most relative comparison. I'm stoked to finally have some XXL options on the market to test. Stay tuned.

@cooper2119

5 жыл бұрын

Dylan Stucki I am guessing it wasn’t available then. Thanks for the reply!

I love how each new bike has "better" angles when it's all about speculation and preferences. You can have a bike from 2010 and still be very modern.

@marcusbevz6500

5 жыл бұрын

Andrew Fallon yea I’m pretty sure head angle and geometry shouldn’t be about the newest modern trends but more about how it personally fits, different geometry for different body shapes and sizes

I don’t like the thing that santa Cruz is making bikes nearly identical to each other, they all look like the new bronson and the new hightower have almost the same frame of the nomad . Except the 5010 that i love

Quiver killer?

man I remember when I was a young boy and the Bullit was the hot thing, black front triangle, chrome rear for mine. That was..uh..20 years ago? Get off my lawn!

The new sales tactic is to call bikes a few years old dad bikes now huh? Flow trails for everyone!!!

Dylan Stucki left Enve Composites?

@dylan_stucki

5 жыл бұрын

Yea, in 2016...

@velvetmidget

5 жыл бұрын

Dylan Stucki hahhahahahhahahahahahahahaha

my dad has a yeti sb5+ so i think it might be like my dads bike

Longer, lower, slacker... But I thought this mantra was "over rated" ✌🤪

@lifeadventure9229

5 жыл бұрын

BB is higher now by 3mm to 340mm

The fork looks totally overwhelmed. This dad needs a rowdier ride. You're right, not my bike.

So the kids need a 65 degree head angle to ride anything pointing down. Give me a fast-handling "Dad bike" any day.

3:27 Stick in the rear spokes

sigh... here we go again, who need kidneys anyway, right?

@cajeroautomatico

4 жыл бұрын

Aluminium 'D' build is less than 3k... ride a season, then get a fork upgrade instead of servicing it ;-)

the megatower should be a mini Nomad and the hightower a mini megatower then

Looks like my polygon d7

Seems like SC got the memo the SB130 was the hottest bike to ever sell

@jkamer2168

5 жыл бұрын

Where'd you read that, can I get a copy?

I thought Santa Cruz would make some positive changes to their 2020 colorways after all the complaints on the 2019 colors. Nope! They still went with merlot barf burgundy, baby poo yellow, with burnt sienna smeared into every color 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Not referring to this High Tower specifically, but the line as a whole. And this is coming from a guy who has ridden SC bikes for 13 years.

@jkamer2168

5 жыл бұрын

Paint it.

@TeoZMuff313

5 жыл бұрын

Paint it then. They can’t make everyone happy

@rachet0708

Жыл бұрын

How freakin lame.

Don't kid yourselfs. The Hightower is definitley a dad bike.

4:52-4:57 What the hell does this even mean?

@David-rb3tk

3 жыл бұрын

Good question, Sounds like he is reading off a Santa Cruz marketing script.

I like the geometry changes but the colors are not good at all and rockshox across the board isn’t my favorite. Definitely prefer Fox.

2:00 CUT! I said CUT!!!

This bike cost me $44k after converted currency.. T_T why created something that was so expensive when people love this kind of health sport..

The new Lyrik decals look really ugly

The bike not for dads but only dads can afford one.

@nathan4432

5 жыл бұрын

actually, they have lots of price points for this

@dylan_stucki

5 жыл бұрын

Starting at $2,899...

@thomasli2261

5 жыл бұрын

Dylan Stucki for that price you get Sram SX Eagle, RockShox 35, Sram Guide T etc, all the new but CHEAP Sram product.

my dad has a hightower tho

Correct, that bike is not my Dad's bike.

All mountain rigs are getting too similar to enduro beasts

@TeoZMuff313

5 жыл бұрын

Fact.

@th_js

5 жыл бұрын

But they still pedal well and aren't too heavy. I don't see the problem with that.

So basically a Bronson

What is a Dad bike, anyway?

Welcome to 2020, a year when mainstream bike brands are starting to catch up on the Nicolai/Geometron Geolution from 2016. BTW, at that time, this type of geometry was deemed unusable and too extreme by most of the MTB "journalists" that rave about it today.

32lbs for a full carbon trail bike for $4300, ok

@adanielweaver

5 жыл бұрын

The top of the line alloy build at $4200 is better than I expected. The carbon bikes are breathtakingly expensive for the build you would want.

@raupenimmersatt6906

5 жыл бұрын

Just buy the AL frame for 1500€ when its on sale. Youll end up with an 12 Speed XT and Lyrik Setup and Newmen wheels setup If you search for deals.

It's not your dad's bike but it seems to be everyone elses.

I don't get what the means about the old version being more of a dad bike than the new one and to add more he was like the new one is bigger than the older one. I have seen Tony Hawk do more amazing things on a skate board than most kids will ever be able to do such as a 900 in competition and a few years ago he did one at like 48 years of age ( kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqKqstaYkZrPf7Q.html) and Tony Hawk is a dad. Seriously some individuals are awesome and shouldn't be put in categories as if the are such less quality individuals such as show respect where it is deserved. Ride on awesome individuals because being awesome is more of a inner thing and not a kid or parent thing how i mean. 😁

But it is my dads bike

My dad has a better bike than me

Price? Components? Details 😒

@dylan_stucki

5 жыл бұрын

All of that info is tied to the article: www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/Bikes,3/Santa-Cruz/Hightower-CC-X01-29-Rerserve,26704#product-reviews/3577

TF is a dad bike?!

Informative review! But, no offense, such a drone like delivery, nearly put me to sleep

Got off of being critical of Dads...who the hell you think is paying for a $6k bike for you whipper snappers???