Revealed: SpaceX's Changed Plans to Catch a Starship Booster!

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Пікірлер: 782

  • @Whataboutit
    @Whataboutit16 күн бұрын

    Go to galaxylamps.co/wai, use the code WAI, and get your Galaxy Projector 2.0 with 15% off! What do you think? Will SpaceX be able to catch the Booster on the first try?

  • @dandup168

    @dandup168

    16 күн бұрын

    Retour de flammes au décollage

  • @dishmanw

    @dishmanw

    16 күн бұрын

    @@dandup168 Unscheduled rapid disassembly on landing attempt

  • @cmdrcrimbo

    @cmdrcrimbo

    16 күн бұрын

    The blue tint on the engine test footage is most likely a filter to stop the flare and makes it able to see through the flame to watch flame and flow characteristics, i use similar lenses when glass blowing.

  • @rogerphelps9939

    @rogerphelps9939

    16 күн бұрын

    No chance. It will be a nice fireball setting SpaceX back many months.

  • @lubomirsochr6000

    @lubomirsochr6000

    16 күн бұрын

    I only hope the stage 0 survives:-)

  • @jaredwisnia4152
    @jaredwisnia415216 күн бұрын

    best channel for obsessive starship updates

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    Obsessive? :D

  • @appliedfacts

    @appliedfacts

    16 күн бұрын

    Two posts every week, new contenct, human narration and hosting. Yep, obsessive focus on quality content. WAI is the only channel that I donate to as part of my subscription ($10/mo on autopay). I can't rave about this channel enough.

  • @jaydonbrown617

    @jaydonbrown617

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@appliedfactsoof

  • @sgsggdehq

    @sgsggdehq

    16 күн бұрын

    Marcus House is good too

  • @Dwinna1

    @Dwinna1

    16 күн бұрын

    Scott Manley also

  • @johnw8056
    @johnw805616 күн бұрын

    The simplest and safest way to catch the Starship is to use a second Magazilla with no stand or fuel connections. And using the crawlers to take it away once caught.

  • @omegaz3393

    @omegaz3393

    16 күн бұрын

    @johnw8056 Perhaps someone should mention this to Elon on X

  • @tedmoss

    @tedmoss

    16 күн бұрын

    Sorta defeats the purpose, doesn't it? (Fast turnaround).

  • @user-qq9ir3vx5c

    @user-qq9ir3vx5c

    16 күн бұрын

    @@tedmoss No. He mentioned a crawler or rail to move it back to the launch stand. It would be a hell of a lot slower for launches if a slight malfunction causes an entire Stage 0 complex to be destroyed by misaligned catch of a booster with massive explosive capability. Also, they are talking about catching a STARSHIP, with PEOPLE IN IT. Personally I think that is pretty ridiculous, but Elon has his fantasies.

  • @xPhilxHC

    @xPhilxHC

    16 күн бұрын

    but it's not simple at all

  • @lanav9679

    @lanav9679

    16 күн бұрын

    Super Cool Dude !

  • @FeepingCreature
    @FeepingCreature16 күн бұрын

    Note: the suicide burn is not *100%* without margin, because the engines can be throttled. If you time your engine ignition so that you anticipate landing in the middle of your throttle range, you have room in both directions to move your v0 point upwards and downwards.

  • @lanav9679

    @lanav9679

    16 күн бұрын

    Rite On Dude !

  • @Chris_Harris

    @Chris_Harris

    15 күн бұрын

    Spacex is already doing what you said (Felix's words were only kind of right). The rocket knows what it weighs by knowing how much propellant it has and how much propellant it will use between now and when it needs to land, so it aims for that spot. There is no changing that point though. A dynamic landing time would be much, if not too hard to calculate, hence the reason they do a suicide burn. 300 rockets later, and the suicide burn is past being proved; it's the gold standard for rocketry. Of course, they could throttle up or down with the remaining prop, but why would you?

  • @SukacitaYeremia

    @SukacitaYeremia

    14 күн бұрын

    It's like keeping your budget car under speed limit so if anything happens you can opt to either brake or accelerate quickly

  • @SmashPlayz
    @SmashPlayz16 күн бұрын

    This remains my favorite Starship update channel! Excitement guaranteed!

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @moonasha
    @moonasha16 күн бұрын

    the whole chopstick landing maneuver is just insanely ambitious, to the point I'm sure many of us are dubious as to whether or not it could ever work. But I'm sure a lot of us thought that about landing on a ship in the ocean too!

  • @karlwest437

    @karlwest437

    16 күн бұрын

    I do remember some people suggested having a big arm catch the rocket, but other people laughed, saying the rocket would be crushed like a beer can, we'll soon see if it works or not!

  • @michaelotoole1807

    @michaelotoole1807

    16 күн бұрын

    what type of winds would make the catch impossible? and what to do with the starship if catching it is unsuccessful? full burn away from the site into the water?

  • @nic.h

    @nic.h

    16 күн бұрын

    @@michaelotoole1807 if catching it is unsuccessful I doubt they'll be able to accelerate away, at least not in one piece.

  • @dphuntsman

    @dphuntsman

    16 күн бұрын

    Yup. My biggest concern is that they’ll have to go thru a repeat- eventually widely successful - of F9 booster landing learning experience. Only problem here is, at a much larger scale- and doing it on land, with much less ‘expendable’ (than drone ship) pad area. It’s going to be max pucker time for the very first booster catch attempt! - Dave Huntsman

  • @KeepItReal2024

    @KeepItReal2024

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@dphuntsman They will practice over open water, not over StarBase. Expect a minimum of 10 test landings (ik musk says 5, so double, if not triple it) before the booster tries anything near the tower. Wind would never become a factor if they can accurately predict the weather before launch which doesn't seem to be a problem for F9.

  • @simongeard4824
    @simongeard482415 күн бұрын

    One important detail - hovering is much less efficient than the suicide burn, since every second you're in the air with the engines running requires extra fuel in the tanks. So while Starship *can* hover, minimising that period will be critical to maximising payload... long term, I suspect we'll see them cut that margin to the point where it's essentially doing a suicide burn onto the catch-arms.

  • @tmikkelsen8066
    @tmikkelsen806616 күн бұрын

    You know what would be cool is if mechzilla and the booster were connected on the upcoming landing so mechzilla is trying catch an imaginary booster and the booster is simultaneously running like its landing but out at sea.

  • @appliedfacts
    @appliedfacts16 күн бұрын

    This is my favorite space news channel!! Seriously! I recommend it in the comments sections of other channels when their viewers complain about their content. Thank you, especially, for the segment on how mechazilla will catch ships. Specifically, the screw type actuators for rotating the ship, catching to the side of the launch pad, and the less than catastrophic consequenses of a missed catch. Catching a ship seems comparable to using penciles to catch a single layered tube of tinfoil. The tower has such heavey duty steel that the thin walled ships will not hurt it much. Also, the ships will be mostly empty of fuel so reduced explosions. Also, catching to the side would reduce damage to the OLM. SUPER COOL!! 👍🏽😎👍🏽 Not mentioned, maybe not concidered, the water deluge could help extinquish fires!

  • @Silks-

    @Silks-

    16 күн бұрын

    Watch common sense skeptic, he’s recently done an episode debunking Elons bs

  • @tekmepikcha6830
    @tekmepikcha683016 күн бұрын

    @6:28 explanation was the suicide burn was the best part of this video for me. Refreshing to learn something new other than the same old same old water tanks, launch pads, mechazilla, what was assembled or disassembled etc...

  • @lcarlson7725

    @lcarlson7725

    15 күн бұрын

    Agreed. I've noticed the same. Too often youtube videos cover the same information at the beginning (to bring everyone up to speed) that the first several minutes are not worth watching. It's not just Spacex either. How many times are we going to be reminded that 'X' was formerly known as 'Twiiter' lol. I would think by now even the yaks in Nepal have gotten the news.....yet the daily reminders continue.

  • @DominikPinkas

    @DominikPinkas

    14 күн бұрын

    The suicide burn wasn’t actually explained very well. The timing issue isn’t so much about ending the burn but rather starting the burn. If you start the burn too early, you’ll achieve 0 velocity above the ground. If you start too late you won’t achieve 0 velocity the moment you touch down (the maneuver is then called lithobraking,I believe).

  • @beefandbarley

    @beefandbarley

    14 күн бұрын

    ⁠@@DominikPinkas”Lithobraking” Love it! Don’t do a Wile E Coyote!

  • @gregtroublemaker1862
    @gregtroublemaker186216 күн бұрын

    You answered questions I've had about catching the booster that no other channel has ever addressed. Thank yoiu Felix and your excellent team for providing the best information about Space X and space flight in general on KZread

  • @michaeltripp1367
    @michaeltripp136716 күн бұрын

    I didn't think about this before, but catching the ships also puts them in tension when landing, not compression, which happens with leg landings... this could result in less stress on the ships and longer lifespans.

  • @TheHatManCole
    @TheHatManCole16 күн бұрын

    I’m going into Mechanical Engineering, and your enthusiasm is one of the factors encouraging me to pursue such a complex degree!

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    I wish you all the best!!! We need more people to get this done! 🔥❤️

  • @Metalle

    @Metalle

    16 күн бұрын

    Yes, absolutely a great choice… make sure you don’t stop there 🎉

  • @Istandby666
    @Istandby66614 күн бұрын

    I remember when SpaceX put a computer program out, for people to try and land the booster. Whoever made the most computer simulated landings got a job with SpaceX.

  • @ThomasTomiczek
    @ThomasTomiczek16 күн бұрын

    And in 10 years we laugh about ever having had problems with something that simple. It is amazing, though - dreams from 30 years ago suddenly happening.

  • @Fhensleytx

    @Fhensleytx

    16 күн бұрын

    Precisely correct. Most of us are all old enough to remember just how recently "impossible" and "foolish" it was for SpaceX to build a launchpad without a "necessary" flame trench. Bravo SpaceX!

  • @vyacheslavromantovsky1238

    @vyacheslavromantovsky1238

    16 күн бұрын

    Well... Who knows? Since the last Apollo flight people dream about return to the Moon for 52 years. And nobody knows how long will they still dreaming in the future.

  • @Isaacmantx

    @Isaacmantx

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Fhensleytx more like how some of us can remember when it was “foolish” and “impossible” to attempt landing boosters at all.

  • @tedmoss

    @tedmoss

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Isaacmantx Man will never fly.

  • @gmancolo

    @gmancolo

    16 күн бұрын

    At long last. Living SciFi.

  • @StEvEn-dp1ri
    @StEvEn-dp1ri16 күн бұрын

    I couldn't begin to tell you how much time my brain and imagination have spent considering these scenarios. Fun video. 👍

  • @mattfromwiisports4910
    @mattfromwiisports491016 күн бұрын

    One minute and 52 views , channels growing.

  • @JLukeHypernova

    @JLukeHypernova

    16 күн бұрын

    2 minutes, 271 views

  • @767pantine3

    @767pantine3

    16 күн бұрын

    7 minutes, 1223 views.

  • @AidenHere.

    @AidenHere.

    16 күн бұрын

    100 times that in 22 minutes

  • @AidenHere.

    @AidenHere.

    16 күн бұрын

    1 like already?

  • @AidenHere.

    @AidenHere.

    16 күн бұрын

    TWO!

  • @rdherrera543
    @rdherrera54316 күн бұрын

    Excelente video, muchas gracias 💪

  • @Maelthras
    @Maelthras16 күн бұрын

    I had said a very long time ago that the door has to actuate down, and not from the side. Because it is open to the booster exhaust until the very moment it closes when moving from the side. But a door moving down is actually shielding the equipment when it only 25% closed because it is covering it from above.

  • @bertkoerts3991
    @bertkoerts399116 күн бұрын

    Always good content, enthusiastically brought, always a pleasure! Well done and please keep on going! 😊👍

  • @tomhoffelder4535
    @tomhoffelder453516 күн бұрын

    1. Regardless of when they try to catch the booster, it will be the most highly anticipated live action ever! Excellent explanation about the difference in vacuum and atmospheric engine bells.

  • @Misst2050
    @Misst205016 күн бұрын

    Very informative update thank you Felix and team 👍!

  • @eddygun3237
    @eddygun323716 күн бұрын

    In this channel ,information is clear 🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

  • @deniswilloughby
    @deniswilloughby16 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the update, a great overall new cast.

  • @jakekielty1
    @jakekielty116 күн бұрын

    What’s up Felix and the team! Can’t wait for the fourth flight!

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    Same here! Another month!!!

  • @jimparr01Utube
    @jimparr01Utube15 күн бұрын

    A particularly engaging episode. Thank you Whataboutit.

  • @dennisjutzi7075
    @dennisjutzi707514 күн бұрын

    Thx for your great information. Thanks again!

  • @john_hind
    @john_hind15 күн бұрын

    No one in the 'SpaceX Community' seems to have recognised the crucial difference between landing the booster and landing the ship. The booster returns in a generally Westerly direction over the waters of the Gulf. The ship is returning in a generally Easterly direction which requires flying (or more accurately, falling) over land. When Elon talked about not wanting to 'rain debris' over Texas and Mexico he was not just talking about the immediate vicinity of Starbase, but a much longer footprint extending well inland. This is going to be a hard sell to regulators and it is unsurprising it is expected to take much longer than for the booster.

  • @marcussweden8521
    @marcussweden852116 күн бұрын

    Thank you Felix. You spoke slower in this video wich made it a lot easier to follow along with all the names and technical terms.

  • @gwm88
    @gwm8816 күн бұрын

    The end goal is to catch booster and also catch starship correct? So I assume starship will eventually be caught on a second tower. But then it’s onto the scary part. They want humans to ride on starship. Are they still wanting humans to return on a flip maneuver and be caught? What freaking wild ride!

  • @rogerphelps9939

    @rogerphelps9939

    16 күн бұрын

    A death sentence.

  • @realulli

    @realulli

    16 күн бұрын

    @@rogerphelps9939 that's what they thought about riding on a train going faster than 10 mph. 220 years ago...

  • @logicalfundy

    @logicalfundy

    16 күн бұрын

    The Starship will be returning from orbit, so it will be at a pretty high angle when arriving and shouldn't need a crazy flip. The catch looks like it will be at a near-hover, so it should actually be pretty smooth. Still, I'm sure it will be quite a ride, as it enters the atmosphere almost sideways.

  • @gwm88

    @gwm88

    16 күн бұрын

    So let’s pretend falcon 9’s 1st stage was able to carry humans for arguments sake. After hundreds of flights resulting in the most reliable rocket ever, would you put humans on it?

  • @sidharthcs2110

    @sidharthcs2110

    16 күн бұрын

    You're assuming that this thing gets human rated

  • @sander915
    @sander91516 күн бұрын

    You are literally my go to channel!

  • @user-qq9ir3vx5c
    @user-qq9ir3vx5c16 күн бұрын

    I think SpaceX has made a mistake by omitting the re-entry burn that works so well on Falcon 9 boosters. Are we forgetting that the Super Heavy on SFT3 did not make a soft landing in the ocean? Is it possible that re-entry damaged the engines due to the omission of the re-entry burn? SpaceX still has quite a way to go on the system before it is truly reliable. And so far, I don't see a lot of redundancy built into the system on Reaction Control, or on the fuel system. Everyone loves SpaceX forward leaning approach to development that speeds up the process, but they have not really experienced a real disaster yet. If they do, I have a feeling the culture may moderate somewhat. That is why NASA is essential to SpaceX success. NASA is going to demand that SpaceX dot all the I's and cross all the T's on safety and redundancy. I expect a totally new version of Starship will be required if Elon ever expects to create a man-rated Starship Spacecraft. An abort system of some kind will be necessary. NASA has tried the old "the Titanic is its own lifeboat" plan with the Space Shuttle. It did not work well enough for the American public to accept.

  • @billthompson3407
    @billthompson340716 күн бұрын

    One of your teams Best, well done! ❤

  • @RandomLuminosity
    @RandomLuminosity16 күн бұрын

    I think more than anything the tank farm suffered from a lack of planning/space at the site. No idea why they thought putting all the GSE so dang close to the pad would work out other than they had no choice. If they had been able to move the suborbital site sooner, the farm would probably have gone there and there would have been little to no issues with it

  • @Unmannedair
    @Unmannedair16 күн бұрын

    I'm a little puzzled why they didn't use more passive alignment mechanisms in the catching mechanism for the chopsticks. For instance, on top of those movable platforms on the chopsticks, if the part that catches the pin was v-shaped, it could be several times wider than the pin and always would guide the pin to the same location on landing. This would be far more forgiving than their current mechanism.

  • @DadMichoMurphy
    @DadMichoMurphy16 күн бұрын

    Really enjoyed the discussion on flow separation! Awesome Felix!

  • @ricardoveras3433
    @ricardoveras343316 күн бұрын

    So cool seeing the mechanism that rotates the booster. I’ve never seen that before and always wondered about that! Thanks for the great video!! 👍👍

  • @kstricl
    @kstricl16 күн бұрын

    I'm betting maintenance crews noticed a leak on that actuator. It looks to be hydraulic, so it could be as easy as replacing packing, or that could have been an entirely new assembly. I wouldn't be surprised if the ram was bent during launch.

  • @appliedfacts

    @appliedfacts

    16 күн бұрын

    A bent ram or leaking seal could be the case but my guess is a faster ram to facilitate the upcomming catch attempt.

  • @kstricl

    @kstricl

    16 күн бұрын

    @@appliedfacts if they needed more hydraulic volume, it would be both sides. Speed is a matter of how much volume you can push, so they might need to increase feeder line size and pump volume too if that's the intent.

  • @appliedfacts

    @appliedfacts

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@kstricl Yep, your right. Let's watch and see if they do the other side too.

  • @Metalle

    @Metalle

    16 күн бұрын

    The engineering question is why did it leak? Simple, improper over-load calculation 😂

  • @kstricl

    @kstricl

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Metalle how so? It's only under load when moving the arms in and out.

  • @matthewsparks4432
    @matthewsparks443214 күн бұрын

    I'm sure many have said it, but they definitly need a dedicated return pad with only the chopsticks, on the other side of the complex. That way the returnig boosters can come in safe, and flow through the facility for inspection and refits, then pushed out the other end, ready for flight. Then they can move everything by rail. Hopefully they figure out the Feng Shui thing.

  • @togspots
    @togspots16 күн бұрын

    One of your better shows. Thank you.

  • @LACHIVA1969
    @LACHIVA196916 күн бұрын

    A total nonsense. Just build the second tower just to catch the booster. That way you don't risk the tank farm and the only launching tower. After many catches then you can dedicated to full launching and catching. Imagine a fail catch that would destroy not only the tower but the OLM, Tank farm and maybe even the water deluge. Just build the other tower for catching. No fuel lines, no tank farm, no OLM. Just extend the Water Deluge in case of fire on the landing. This is totally bunkers like it was to launch the first flight without a water deluge and reinforce foundation.

  • @getinthespace7715

    @getinthespace7715

    14 күн бұрын

    Agreed. The last booster didn't even make it to a successful splash down. Build 1 tower a little ways off to operate as the catch tower. That way you don't risk the booster blowing up and wiping out all your launch infrastructure.

  • @wombatillo

    @wombatillo

    14 күн бұрын

    They are building a second tower already aren't they?

  • @scelodlamini1896

    @scelodlamini1896

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes they are but I don't think it's for catching the booster like he just suggested

  • @pedrosura

    @pedrosura

    14 күн бұрын

    It’s called quick iterations: Launch, fail, launch, fail, launch, fail until you get it right

  • @machineenvyllc437

    @machineenvyllc437

    14 күн бұрын

    The second tower won’t be ready for at least another year repairs take a few months Simple math

  • @chiaricharlie6608
    @chiaricharlie660816 күн бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @Metalle
    @Metalle16 күн бұрын

    Thank you Félix this channel is informative and Rocks 😊

  • @otpyrcralphpierre1742
    @otpyrcralphpierre174216 күн бұрын

    IFT4 on May the Fourth...May the Fourth be with you.....

  • @rogerphelps9939

    @rogerphelps9939

    16 күн бұрын

    No chance. It is still several months away. Far too many things went wrong on the last flight and they will take time to fix and a good number of these fixes won't work.

  • @Wurtoz9643

    @Wurtoz9643

    16 күн бұрын

    @@rogerphelps9939I’m sorry but my rage has built up. I’m gonna take it out on you. Verbally to myself as none of the following slurs are appropriate for a civilised comment section.

  • @nelson8527
    @nelson852713 күн бұрын

    I think your spot on with the disconnect, protecting from the flame, maybe put some extra support in that hump on it.

  • @thomascharlton8545
    @thomascharlton854516 күн бұрын

    Something no one wants to discuss: The “Achilles heel” of Starship that no-one is talking about: The Human Factors element of riding Starship to a retro-rocket landing. The natural fear the average person will have. Plunging toward the ground at a very high speed waiting for engine start just before potential impact. Going to be a terrifying ride every time. Even when everything goes right.

  • @Wurtoz9643

    @Wurtoz9643

    16 күн бұрын

    All the astronauts are already “made” for that. They already rode the rocket up.

  • @dphuntsman

    @dphuntsman

    16 күн бұрын

    You mean, kinda like coming back home in a capsule, waiting for the parachutes to open? That’s only not happened once in history of spaceflight, tho. Even a piece of music written for it/him: “Komarov’s Fall” (available on Spotify). - Dave Huntsman

  • @celderian

    @celderian

    16 күн бұрын

    Apollo astronauts did that multiple times though and so do all capsules returning to Earth that have to be braked by parachutes.

  • @johnbrobston1334

    @johnbrobston1334

    16 күн бұрын

    And yet that's what happened on the Moon for every Apollo lunar landing.

  • @Metalle

    @Metalle

    16 күн бұрын

    Agree, landing at sea with parachute is one thing, landing on a strip like the shuttle are somewhat predictable with thousands of feet or runway and backup systems…. Now attempting precision landing of a rocket with many more variables and unreliable real time data is unlikely to mate on pins… consistently…. But tickets 🤡 and enjoy IFT-5, odds are that statistically it will be a blast… 🍿

  • @linasvelavicius330
    @linasvelavicius33016 күн бұрын

    Love the channel! Has SpaceX provided any updates on the problems with flight 3? Any new speculation?

  • @1hornet1
    @1hornet116 күн бұрын

    Well I'm ready to see the catch attempt. It's fun watching the constant development and improvements on Starship and Super Heavy.

  • @keithrange4457
    @keithrange445715 күн бұрын

    The chopsticks post landing booster alignment mechanism is genius. I had been wondering how they would go about that. I love the animation and info, thanks!

  • @robertkerby2581
    @robertkerby258116 күн бұрын

    Wow, Wow, Wow, yet another set of extroidinairily awesome SpaceX updates! Well done, Felix and Team, You Rock, too!

  • @markysspotlight2472
    @markysspotlight247216 күн бұрын

    Yay Felix is back! For those 2.6 million people watching and not subscribed, you don't deserve the WAI team if you're not subscribed.

  • @EvgenyVladimirovichShirkin
    @EvgenyVladimirovichShirkin16 күн бұрын

    Hey there! You got much better at this! You seem more relaxed and the humor is nice. Wanted to say about the projector. Real nice thing. Is there anything like that with a real star sky setup?

  • @leo21121976
    @leo2112197615 күн бұрын

    Great Job team! Thanks for updating me with SpaceX and others Rockets 🚀 🙏🏻 😊

  • @lanav9679
    @lanav967916 күн бұрын

    Love the Red Line Helicopter. Wow! What a View. Super cool !!

  • @eopoep
    @eopoep16 күн бұрын

    The best part is no part, fold the flaps into the hot staging rings during take off, to contribute to its strength. Then during the boost back have the whole ring unfurl like a shuttlecock

  • @jeric_synergy8581

    @jeric_synergy8581

    13 күн бұрын

    :: eyeroll:: This is a LOT more parts.

  • @eopoep

    @eopoep

    12 күн бұрын

    @@jeric_synergy8581 not if you get rid of the hot staging ring entirely. Ring is for take, paddle flaps for landing, unwanted duplication and duplication of weight

  • @kstaxman2
    @kstaxman216 күн бұрын

    Again a great video.

  • @Rene-uz3eb
    @Rene-uz3eb15 күн бұрын

    Regarding chopstick, how about two stage: first only vertical stabilization, ie let it slide into some kind of grip (wheels, wheel bearings, something allowing vertical movement). Then when the first two dimensions (x, y) are stable, now you can do precision firing of vertical thrust so it slides up/down in z direction only, to get millimeter accuracy to engage the locking bolts. That way you have a touch-down kind of maneuver, except the wheels are from the tower and they are vertical not horizontal.

  • @don-tomisleonhardt6062
    @don-tomisleonhardt606214 күн бұрын

    Great watch. Thanks.

  • @ChuckCoy
    @ChuckCoy16 күн бұрын

    I remember how difficult the "hover slam" was with an old arcade game called Lunar Lander 😂

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    I do too! 😂❤️

  • @smavtmb2196
    @smavtmb219616 күн бұрын

    One problem with catching the booster on the left side of the tower is that it brings the booster closer to the water deluge farm. That puts it at greater risk of damage from debris if something goes wrong. Clearly non of the infrastructure/water deluge farm and fuel farm should have been built so close to the tower and OLM. Hopefully SpaceX won't make that mistake again.

  • @jonbradley4789
    @jonbradley478916 күн бұрын

    WoW! Your channel is evolving quite nicely. My appreciation of the behind the scenes folk can not be understated. Great job team.

  • @wilfredswinkels
    @wilfredswinkels16 күн бұрын

    finally an explanation of the question I always had. how is the radial movement done to fit it on the stage again. Danke shön.

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood160215 күн бұрын

    0:59 the best picture to make sense of the site. You can see why piles were needed after the first launch. 😮 Tidal swamp land. You can see how close the tanks are. You can see how different it is to a NASA launch site. 😊😊😊😊

  • @appliedfacts
    @appliedfacts16 күн бұрын

    I like the idea of water protecting the OLM! Pipes could carry the water around the various legs, rings, clamp areas, etc. Great idea!

  • @kswis
    @kswis16 күн бұрын

    Congrats space x and Mr musk. Excellent update

  • @scottbryan5368
    @scottbryan536816 күн бұрын

    Insulation for the ends /nozzles of quick disconnect.

  • @jamesrosar3823
    @jamesrosar382316 күн бұрын

    It seems that SpaceX was not comfortable with clearances between the QD and the cover in the dynamic shock environment near the lifting booster. And when will they give up on trying to make cryogenic hoses flexible? They need to be twinned rigid pipes with right angle joints that pivot.

  • @user-ps7sb5sy6d
    @user-ps7sb5sy6d16 күн бұрын

    Es emocionante como Spacex con su manera de hacer las cosas logra que todos también hagamos las cosas con pasión e interés. Excelente canal.

  • @d_baumberger
    @d_baumberger15 күн бұрын

    Best yet

  • @simonkaarejochumsen3665
    @simonkaarejochumsen366516 күн бұрын

    Hi Team.! Great video.! Do we know how much refurbishment have been done to booster B1062 doing 20 flights?

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    After every flight! It’s unknown how much exactly, but the hull is as it was on flight one.

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz16 күн бұрын

    Pretty sure that was slow motion footage of the engine shutdown stage of the test. The rings were observed during the shutdown, not the test (I assume).

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    16 күн бұрын

    Correct.

  • @luismatthew5875
    @luismatthew587516 күн бұрын

    I question the Idea of catching the Booster. I think that Elon may of over engineered this one. Catching a 200 ton Booster requires percision /high accuracy each time, there's literally no room for error. A Booster Landing with Landing Legs on the surface is safer and leaves room for error

  • @RobbyHouseIV

    @RobbyHouseIV

    16 күн бұрын

    You and me both! I mean if it fails, and there's a good chance it very well could, you're looking at the probable destruction of the whole tower and collateral damage to the tank farm and surrounding complex. If Mechazilla fails to capture the booster there's no recovery whatsoever. It's not like it can keep hovering until it gets it right! I think Elon should push that idea back to maybe the 8th or 7th launch.

  • @luismatthew5875

    @luismatthew5875

    16 күн бұрын

    @@RobbyHouseIV I agree, was thinking a long the same line as far as damage is concern When the there's an accident. When you have a vehicle that requires precision/hi accuracy in order to land, You're going to have an accident at some point. The problem is the amount of damage when the the accident occurs. I feel a lot better with the Falcon 9 landing on the surface with legs. Falcon 9 has some room for error in addition, if Falcon 9 crashes the no damage to the infrastructure.

  • @caseyschesky3708
    @caseyschesky370816 күн бұрын

    It's a big HEAT SINK on the cover for the quick disconnect arm. Absorbs a lot of heat vs it going into the cover and arm

  • @EverythingGodsWay
    @EverythingGodsWay13 күн бұрын

    great work

  • @peaceofmind2769
    @peaceofmind276916 күн бұрын

    They should build a big magnet to catch boosters and ships with magnetic field. Another way is - some drones should hook a cable to the fasteners of the booster or ship while they are approaching to the landing spot and to center the position of the booster or ship between the chopsticks.

  • @peterjrhanley9418
    @peterjrhanley941816 күн бұрын

    Simulated landing, hover and control will be huge advance after loss of control on #3

  • @Metalle

    @Metalle

    16 күн бұрын

    Yes, but think of controlling 400,000 pounds landing vertically. In a 747 arriving at 100-200 miles per hour to keep it flying you need a runway and heavy landing gear with good tires… still lots of control surfaces but also a lot of variability… now try to land a 747 axially, use engines to hover and touchdown on pins? Think about it, Simply not happening 😂

  • @davidjennings5865
    @davidjennings586516 күн бұрын

    What if they had 8 load points equally spaced around the booster perimeter allowing for more flexibility in catch position?

  • @kenerickson8836
    @kenerickson883616 күн бұрын

    This, for me, has been the best episode; the explanations were things I found very interesting. For that, I’ve now subscribed.

  • @0x8badbeef
    @0x8badbeef15 күн бұрын

    Catching versus landing has additional advantages. The precision of requiring zero velocity at landing is not necessary. The arms can match the velocity.

  • @Whataboutit

    @Whataboutit

    15 күн бұрын

    Thats a valid thought but its likely not the case. None of what we saw sogar from observation or from SpaceX’s animations show any up or down movement from the Chopsticks during a catch.

  • @0x8badbeef

    @0x8badbeef

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Whataboutit that particular feature may be proprietary.

  • @0x8badbeef

    @0x8badbeef

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Whataboutit it occurred to me even if the animation moved the chopsticks you won't be able to see it if it only moved a meter.

  • @0x8badbeef

    @0x8badbeef

    13 күн бұрын

    The arms are springy.

  • @dphuntsman
    @dphuntsman16 күн бұрын

    Very well-done update, folk!- Dave Huntsman

  • @ktd66
    @ktd6612 күн бұрын

    Two errors: 1. Fuel vapor needs to mix with oxygen before it can explode. This is what a carburator does in a car engine. It turns liquid fuel into a vapor and mixes it with air so that it can explode when ignited in the cylinder. Therefore, a nearly empty gas can is much more likely to explode than a full one. The nearly empty gas can is full of a mixture of fuel vapor and air. But the full one won't explode; it will only burn. 2. The flame coming out of the nozzle gets wider and wider as the rocket rises through thinning atmosphere. As it gets wider, the thrust dissipates. The wider the flame, the less thrust there is behind the rocket. In order to contain the flame and maintain a powerful thrust, you need a nozzle that concentrates the flame and keeps the fire behind the rocket when it flies through thinner atmosphere and through space. This is the purpose of the vacuum nozzle. The only reason it is bigger is because the atmosphere is thinner and the fire is bigger.

  • @ErikBongers
    @ErikBongers16 күн бұрын

    There's another reason for not continuing with vertical tanks. A methane tank is required to have a containment wall around it that can hold it's full content. With a vertical tank, that would mean an unreasonably high or wide wall. So, if you need a wide area for containment, you may as well use horizontal tanks.

  • @jceworld1
    @jceworld116 күн бұрын

    I have friends all over SoCal who are zealously waiting for more Falcon 9 activity. I can only imagine witnessing lighting the candle on a Starship 🎉🤯😎

  • @kevinmartin5400
    @kevinmartin540016 күн бұрын

    It's easier to be more accurate while deciding coming in at an angle. You can use earth's gravity as an anchor pulling the object in , using less fuel for corrections , coming in vertical would mean more corrections . I think

  • @wvh-zxc
    @wvh-zxc16 күн бұрын

    ah, finally normal felix!

  • @markoconnell804
    @markoconnell80416 күн бұрын

    4:42 on reconstruction of the launch platform why not use Tesla’s style valve technology and redirect some portion of the rockets’ thrust after it leaves the ship in a geometric way which generates a gas shield for the structure?

  • @anone3842
    @anone384215 күн бұрын

    Landing starship with chopsticks "all sounds straight-forward"??? Who ever thought that! It looks crazy difficult! I will believe it when I see it. Seeing how hard it was for them to take off and even keep straight and not spin during descent last time... trying to line this up and catch seems almost impossible

  • @ekoprasetiyo
    @ekoprasetiyo16 күн бұрын

    Make sense to use horizontal tank farm for super booster landing test. Imagine if it land on the tank or other places other than mechazilla? Instant fireball + mushroom clouds?

  • @garrymoon8366
    @garrymoon836614 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @glenkeating7333
    @glenkeating733316 күн бұрын

    Felix, based on the quality of your videos, you deserve much more subscribers. Long time subscriber. A the best buddy. Keep up the great work.

  • @user-tb3ev8jg8p
    @user-tb3ev8jg8p16 күн бұрын

    Great sound effects, Felix!

  • @yourhandlehere1
    @yourhandlehere116 күн бұрын

    Without perfect weather etc., it might be a little TOO hard to hit two small load points. Maybe a ring. Catch it however it is aligned and then spin it to position.

  • @blengi
    @blengi16 күн бұрын

    should have a hydraulically elevated rotatable metal grill landing pad ring off to the side of the OLM directly under chopsticks, so booster base can initially take up some weight on pad as it slowly descends for chopsticks to align with a now more stable booster config which has route for extra safety options if load pins not caught adequately given hydraulic pad will ensure controlled deceleration if hovering becomes non normative

  • @flipadavis
    @flipadavis16 күн бұрын

    Maybe they should build a special Falcon 9 test article that mimics some of the dimensions of the Starship booster and use this to test catch.

  • @Duckariffic
    @Duckariffic16 күн бұрын

    Kind of inaccurate re: horizontal tanks....Word was that Texas safety / permitting regulations did not allow for vertical methane storage!! And kind of a good thing they didn't considering the damage done with the vertical tanks so close to the pad. It's a shame that they couldn't get them certified for methane use and put them further away from the launch mount! I suspect them to go back to vertical tanks once they start operating off shore...smaller footprint....unless they can stack the horizontal ones.....lots of choices....

  • @CLipka2373
    @CLipka237316 күн бұрын

    I'd guess modified Quick Disconnect door is so that the Quick Disconnect itself doesn't need to retract as far in order to get out of the door's way, reducing the flexing strain on the fuel lines.

  • @ceogauravjoshi1742
    @ceogauravjoshi174216 күн бұрын

    Favourite ❤

  • @Anthony-ph2ij
    @Anthony-ph2ij15 күн бұрын

    The fire suppression deluge system utilized also during landing would be beneficial, especially during a landing that goes wrong. Can the system be reset in time after a launch??🤔

  • @contestvoter
    @contestvoter11 күн бұрын

    Clearly a safe lander is needed to practice catching. Test land a hopper with legs and catch pins until a legged landing is certain. Then come down for mechazilla to try catching. It might be so bad the hopper goes and lands on legs. Another day try again, nothing blown up. Once catching is successful, multiple approaches can be tried before the first large stage comes down. Many unknowns worked out in advance...

  • @vossti
    @vossti16 күн бұрын

    Great explanation Dr Strange😊😊 new sub!

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