I cut off the end of the Festool bag. After emptying it, I roll the open end around a dowel and use binder clips to hold it shut. Been doing this for years occasionally replacing the bags. Way easier to empty when you can open the bag to dump.

@N1rOx

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant. I am planning to get a festool vac tomorrow and was worried about the upkeep cost of bags. I'll be using this method. So simple!

@holzkopf4589

11 ай бұрын

Do you leave the dowel in or just use it to roll up the dust bag?

@tonyzeh

11 ай бұрын

@@holzkopf4589 I leave it in.

@holzkopf4589

11 ай бұрын

@@tonyzeh Wow, thanks for the quick reply! I didn't expect a reply at all considering your comment is two years old! Thx 👍🏻

@tonyzeh

11 ай бұрын

@@holzkopf4589 LOL, time flies, I thought that was from just a couple of months ago.

My wife is a professional seamstress. I commissioned her to cut open the end of a regular Festool bag and sew in a robust zipper to reclose it. The zippered bag empties just as fast as the Festool Forever. Best to have your seamstress perform this surgery while the bag is new, so as to avoid dust in her sewing room.

@TheSmartWoodshop

2 ай бұрын

I have always want to learn how to sew!

A fairly valid solution, however, if you're using a Festool vac to eliminate fine dust entering your atmosphere, then using a standard shop vac without a bag (that usually aids filtration of finer particles) to empty the Festool seems counterintuitive - ie. those fine particles will be released back into your atmosphere by your un-bagged shop vac. I think you'd have been better off making your own version of Festool's reusable bag. It'll probably be safer for your lungs, providing you where a respirator when emptying it.

@communicationiskey-

10 ай бұрын

Just a thought. A Festool reusable bag would have the same effect.

I fiddled with the bags like that for a while but finally got the festool cyclone and its much more convenient. Bags last way way longer and much easier to empty the cyclone. Same footprint. Pays for itself in no time.

@l.k.1011

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am also very satisfied with the festool cyclone. Not cheap, but as you said: very convenient.

@henri6595

Жыл бұрын

How does the Festool cuisine compare to the orange Home Depot cheap $50 version? I'm in the market for a shop vac and Festool, Makita, and Ridge look to be viable options. The Festool models look really sleek with everything compact!

I just shake the dust out of the hole into a garbage can, although I have used my rigid vac to do the same thing. I’ve emptied my bag at least 10 times already and it’s still working fine.

I am a bit conflicted by this, and usually don't spew negative comments. However, a couple things come to mind. It seems to me that using a, ordinary wet-dry vacuum to transfer the dust out of the Festool kind of defeats the whole purpose behind the Festool in the first place. Aren't you introducing fine dust particles into the air that your dust extractor so admiringly captures? Also, since you perform that offload transfer twice, how much is your time worth? It seems to me that the cyclone pre-separator (204083 CT) would fit the bill. The clear container captures most of the chips and large particles, you can see at a glance how full it is, and it is very easy to empty. I'm just sayin'

@biggusbestus551

2 жыл бұрын

The bag hack is click bait.

thats so simple! I was trying to figure out a way to modify the bag but this is fast and requires no time messing around. Thank you

I use a short length of 15mm plastic water pipe , the straight version not the coil, and cut a slot along it with my mitre saw. Chamfer the ends of the cut to make a shallow "V" at each end. This slips easily over a turned over bag end that I have previously cut off. Much easier that RPs method.

I have been reusing all my shop vac bags for a long time, Festool and otherwise. But with a much simpler method. I simply take a new bag, carefully cut a slit near the end (cutting only into 1 side). Then using duck tape, I cover all areas outside of the slit and also carefully folding some tape inside the bag to give a sturdy opening in the bag. This reinforcing the slit, makes it much more durable and gives you an area to put another piece of tape on it to seal it up. To do so, I layer on 1 more piece of tape over the top of the slit on the outside which seals up the bag tightly. To make it easy to peal off when necessary, I simply fold over a small piece of the tap to make an easy pull tab when time to remove. Then, when the bag is full, I can simply remove this top piece of tape, empty the contents, then wipe off the area of the opening around the hole (this is important so the new tape will stick), and replace with a new piece of duck tape. I reuse the same bag until the opening to shop vac hole gets a little lose to create a tight seal. Will last a long time!

@BarrySumpter

Жыл бұрын

Man! Acknowledging it's been 2 year. 'd love to see this on vid.

Thanks for sharing your ideas!

Hey Ron! I’m looking to build some face frame cabinets. Could you make some videos about how you build cabinets in the Smart Woodshop? Layout, common sizes, calculating door sizes, etc? Your processes are always top notch....I’d even be willing to buy a couple sheets of plywood for you to demo with!

Great idea! Thanks

I cut the end of my festool bags to empty them. I fold a little of the material over itself and then use large binder clips to hold it close. I can reuse the same big many times before it needs to be replaced.

Thanks for the video. Question, would it be a bad idea to bring also a cyclone with its separate container on jobs when using the paulk stations to not have to vacuum everything 2 times? I take the vacuumbag would last a year at least that way.

Thanks for this tip. I filled my last bag just now. I thought I had another and my local stockist was out of stock (typically) so this saved me time and money.

Hi, i cut my bags like you did and use hot glue to close them up. I use mine only twice before throwing them away so they don’t become to dirty or dusty and I cut my cost by 2.

I my shop I have just installed a 1 micron filter cartridge to my 2 hp DE. Why not use the 4" port to extract the contents of the bag?

Good idea. Maybe using a “cyclone” before your secondary vacuum to remove the dust from Festool bag would make it easier to deal with this chore.

Good video, I have found I can dump my bags without vacuuming them out, just fold them so that the hole is at the bottom and dump/shake. I get about 90% out and typically dump my bags 4-5 times before disposing.

@chrismartell6135

Жыл бұрын

Thought I was the only one 😂

It's Apr 2021 and plywood right now is at $95 for 3/4 sheet around the Montreal area. Also hardware stores shelves are going empty. There were no vacuum bags on the shelves of the two hardware stores I went to so I jokingly said to one of my carpenters to take the bag out of the vacuum and then use the vacuum to vacuum out the bag. Then low and behold, here comes Ron with a video vacuuming out a vacuum bag with a vacuum. 🤣🤣🤣

Hi Ron what model of vac do you have Festool

What vacuum do you use to clean out the Ryobi bag, the Festool ?

@TheSmartWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

no bag in the Ryobi.

Now, use a smaller vacuum to vacuum out the ryobi shopvac!!!! :)

@sperreault

3 жыл бұрын

Vacuuception

@csbarbourv

3 жыл бұрын

Ok Monica…

@chrismartell6135

Жыл бұрын

Vacuum fractals.

Good thinking 👍

Macam now makes a nice, 50% the original, one!

Silly question, but can't you just leave out the bag and then empty the open box?

@kulakowskychris

Жыл бұрын

the bag prevents the filter from clogging. without the bag, you lose suction quickly

The reusable bag is way overpriced in Australia

I’m confused why this guy isn’t even close to 1M?

Hmmmmm.......Festool must love you to bits now.....lol😉😬🤦🏼‍♂️

I don't understand what people are missing here. Yes, you put some dust back in the air, but not on the jobsite... Yes, you can breath in some dust and be exposed again, and you can also put on a larger respirator for the brief time you empty the bag outside and your good. This is also great advice for when you just run out and are in a pinch also, thank you!

So basically the Ryobi is a better product?

Just get a long life bag no hassle available for all Festool hoovers

@TheSmartWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have them for my vacs, but $200 each is a bit steep and this is less expensive option

@tomoneill444

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSmartWoodshop cheers Ron I’ve had one for 20years still as good as new$10 a year but I hear where you’re coming from

@henri6595

Жыл бұрын

@@tomoneill444 How many times have you reused that bag? The website says up to 500 times but that's hard to believe.

@tomoneill444

Жыл бұрын

@@henri6595 in my hoover from 2007 but I haven’t been counting

You are exposing yourself to the dust again. Once whist you use your tool… a second time when you vacuum with the Ryobi… which won’t have as good a filter and is an aerosoliser for the dust. So what’s the point… just use your Ryobi to start off with in the first place if you don’t mind the worse filtration and save the money. If you want better dust control… close and throw away the bag

Hmm… a festool owner trying to save $ by vacuuming out the vacuum bag. 😆

@alienproductions9948

3 жыл бұрын

Prolly broke after that purchase. Likely eating Ramen too, but you better believe the floor is clean.

Emptying the bag, reintroducing all those fine particles back into the air.....

@soybomber

3 жыл бұрын

do it outside. also... he used another vac to empty the bag so that literally bypasses what you are saying...

@oldmarine312

3 жыл бұрын

@@soybomber still has to empty the second vacuum. I understood the purpose of the bag in the Festool was so you didn't have to breathe all that fine dust.

@soybomber

3 жыл бұрын

but theyre expensive. thats literally the WHOLE point of this video, to save some money, and possibly more importantly, an extra trip tp a supply store. so Rons idea trumps your concerns by a lot given that context TBH if it takes me an extra 10 mins to clean out the vac bag so i can keep on working, instead of taking a trip to get more bags, then reusing the bag is a no brainer. also... why spend money unnecessarily?

@oldmarine312

3 жыл бұрын

@@soybomber how much are your lungs worth? Mine, way more than a bag.

@jayshawver2603

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldmarine312 you could always wear a mask.😁

No

Reduce your effort, use the Ryobi to begin with.