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2007: We restored it and now looks better than the original 2022: Yeah, now its even better than that. I dont think it can be made any better. 2035: The studio made us rescan it in 8K 2045: 16K for real. It looks just like on IMAX but in your home

@lordfenix17

Жыл бұрын

Im all for it if they can improve and enhance the movies for generations to come, as long as the original cuts can also be preserved for comparison and preference.

@yasunakaikumi

8 ай бұрын

at this point just release the RAW negative image data of the film to the public at 8K, you're just kidding your self at 16K it's a waste of data LMFAO, although I think rec2020 HDR at 4K should be the definitive of every film in the old days, because 8K barely really improves it if you watch 2-5m away from your screen unless you have 2020 eye sight

@bman6285

5 ай бұрын

35mm goes up to 4.5k almost all older films only go up to that only about 3 films and one show was shot 8k everybody still uses digital 4k or 35mm Also you need more data on disc but more data comes at cost disc lifespan being shorter due to use which is why 8k won't happen And also they can't sell them on hard drives due to legal rights issues

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

​@@yasunakaikumi My friend have 8k and I have 4k Oled, the 8k is only good if you want a giant 100 inch screen in a small room, but the 4k Oled looks so much better, because there is more to a screen than just resolution. 4k is basically as good as I get before it get pointless.

@RobertK1993

3 ай бұрын

It's already scanned in UK since 2008 it's just compressed down to 1080p and 2160p/4K in 2022.

When I went to film school, the Godfather was held up as a great example of manipulating the film stock for dramatic emphasis. The graininess was to give it an aged, archival look as if you were watching history.. The redness, blood. My initial impression is that they've fixed what doesn't need to be, worse yet what wasn't meant to be...hope I'm wrong.

@mojo6112

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen the 50th anniversary version in cinemas. I Gotta tell you, they've done an excellent job in creating a timeless peice that you can share with future generations, but personally i do not prefer the 50th version at all. I even like the orignal much more than the 50th anniversary version. I'd have to say the 2007 version looks to be the best of both worlds. I admit i was looking forward for that distinctive golden hue but i was kinda disappointed that they REFINED it

@MafiaGameVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Here more comparisons without them talking kzread.info/dash/bejne/ma18xNhqqtnMl9Y.html

@AR7271

Жыл бұрын

KZread encoding tends to remove noise/grain. Higher bitrate HEVC encoding, which is what you get on an Ultra HD disc, keeps the grain.

@jbarnhart2653

Жыл бұрын

@@AR7271 Good...but even from the thumbnail you can see the color difference. The film stock was over exposed and under processed for a reason (the redness also makes it look "old")...this choice is just weird, considering how "standard " it turned out...

@PETROVICGAMES

Жыл бұрын

Nice to see that people studied the film

Honestly, the 4K versions of these films are incredible. I don't think KZread videos do the remaster quality at all, seeing this in cinema was amazing.

The Golden tone of the prints set a new standard in Motion Pictures from then on as did the minimal mood lighting. For it to be "Fixed" misses the entire point of why the "Look" of this film has been studied in film schools since it came out.

@MsMarco6

2 ай бұрын

It's worth noting that the colour tone you remember is the tone from previous home releases none of which are authentic due to the limitations of SDR (all movies had to be regraded for DVD/Blu-Ray and VHS/LD destroy the og grading), and all the film prints have long since degraded. The fact is that no one can remember the specific colour tone of the theater release in 1972, not even Coppola himself, their memories are all corrupted by later releases. So all Those film classes on the colour tone of The Godfather have only ever been based on someone else's interpretation of the original work. When you appreciate that you realise that this interpretation is no less legitimate than the previous ones. Short of getting a time machine we'll never know exactly what the film looked like in 1972 so we should really stop stressing about it.

@sgtpepper1138

Ай бұрын

@@MsMarco6 Film restoration expert, Robert A. Harris said "The look of The Godfather was created in the laboratory, with color timing. Very precise color timing. Mr Willis' general comment is it's 4pt yellow, 1pt red, across the board, for all three films.

@MsMarco6

Ай бұрын

@@sgtpepper1138 Right and you have access to a time machine to pop back to the 70's and get completely untarnished prints to perform this colour correction on? Because performing it with the negatives we currently have will not produce the same results after years of degradation. And whilst Harris may know the colour timings unless he has an absolutely perfect photographic memory he won't remember the exact results that produced. Our brain is constantly tweaking our memories, they degrade (much like film) and are replaced with imagined detail. Not accurate enough to remember the fine colour details of a film you saw 50yrs ago its impossible. All of our impressions of the Godfather are based either on 50yr old memories or later releases which are definitely not accurate (compressing a film print into an SDR container requires a regrade so every released version is provably inauthentic). Harris has his DCP version and it may be truer to the original (tho you could never prove that), but at the end of the day it's not the original it's his and an old Willis's interpretation made decades after the fact. There is no magic formula for recreating the look of old films, it isn't and can never be an exact science. It's always going to be someone's interpretation of the surviving elements, in the end the colourists made their call on what looked right to them and Coppola approved. Personally I'm not a fan of Harris's attitude to preservation. He seems far too self assured, referring to his version as "correct". As if some old production notes and Willis's approval could ever prove that. That's not to say I'm not a fan of Harris, he's one of the best to ever do it & it's clear his work on the Godfather was a labour of love, for that to be thrown out in favour of a new restoration was no doubt painful. I'm simply saying that any preservationist needs to acknowledge the limitations. Any preservation work is an alteration, an alteration with the intent to restore but to pretend you can get restoration free of alteration is absurd. As far as the UHD goes it's obviously not perfect. Grain reduction was the main thing that stuck out to me. Not aggressive enough to hurt the image thankfully but it led to an uneven look between scenes as grain appears and disappears. Whilst I personally prefer 70's movies to be covered in grain (recently got the Carrie 4k, fantastic) I'm not mad at this decision. That was a far greater and more noticeable alteration than the colour grading imo. Overall though it's the best release of The Godfather available in terms purely as a viewing experience (which is surely the goal of a home release). Maybe Harris's DCP version is better who knows but guess what, he's a preservationist & his version has been preserved as a digital file in the Paramount vaults remaining untarnished for all-time. Let's not pretend this is a T2 level disaster, the look & feel of the film remains intact overall. I watched it just recently with my teen sister & she was just as impacted by it as everyone else has been over the decades and I'm certain Coppola cares more about that than pleasing every whim of the "purist".

Just bought the 4k blu-rays. Looks incredible in Dolby Vision.

Amazing work over the past 50 years.

Just PERFECT! A truly amazing story written by the genius Mario Puzo!

Just saw this movie for the first time Not that long ago and I absolutely love it seeing the first Godfather movie in 4K.

"we took down the saturation and made it brighter so it doesn't look as cool. Give us your money."

The wedding was SUPPOSED to be blown out! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BLOWN OUT.

@richardharrison859

6 ай бұрын

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@benjamincox4211

2 ай бұрын

What does this mean

@MsMarco6

2 ай бұрын

Well clearly not otherwise those highlight details wouldn't be there in the negative. They didn't create any new details, for an image to be blown out the detail would be blown out in the original release but if that was the case then there wouldn't be anything for them to restore. The fact they were able too shows that the highlights weren't completely blown out in the negative and therefore weren't completely blown out in the theater prints. You're right that the wedding scene was supposed to have blown highlights but only slightly (otherwise it'd be more blown out in the negative). The extremely overblown version you associate with the scene isn't original it's a consequence of the limitations of previous home releases.

Fantastic work as always man!

I like the old one

It's amazing how poorly Hollywood studios treat heir assets. Once DVD hit the market decades ago, film studios should have understood clearly that films must be moved to digital preservation and archives as rapidly as possible.

@scottb3034

Жыл бұрын

You can thank Lucas and Lucasfilm for pushing that frontier because it would be years behind without the legwork Lucasfilm did to kick it off.

the whole point of the party scene was to be overexposed

I had several reactions when I heard they were finally releasing The Godfather in 4K after years of having the format available. 1. I loved the 2007 restoration cuz it was the very first issue I saw when I got the pleasure to experience these movies. 2. I knew Gordon had died years ago so having even Coppola supervision, gave me anxiety cuz I know he’s not the level of a DP like Kubrick was as a director. 3. I have a lot of examples why Paramount (Viacom/CBS) is a terrible company and are the red headed stepchild of the movie industry. So trusting Paramount to not penny pinch and cheap out on the greatest movie ever is difficult to do. However, when I saw the 4K rerelease 1 month before it was officially released, I was left speechless. The film looked the most perfect possible. God himself could not do any better (even tho there’s a flaw in Part 2 during the Cuba revolution) but it only last 2 secs and it was a dark scene. Proud I got to see these films in this condition

@AmazingChinaToday

Жыл бұрын

An amazon reviewer wrote that he contacted American Zoetrope about that 2 second glitch on the 4K, and they said it was left by Coppola on purpose, "to illustrate that film is an imperfect art form." The reviewer seemed credible. Now even if that story is true, American Zoetrope could have been feeding him a line of BS, or it could really have been a creative decision. Who knows. Me, I would prefer every glitch removed, as it can distract from the story telling.

Now we wait for the game

Was going to buy the 4K set but going to wait until October as it looks like they are releasing the 4K films in individual cases.

Very good work, but somebody noticed black and white people at wedding scene, they are in the background. They also appear in previous version but less. So that's a mistake. Another thing I noticed is how beautifully composed film looks in 4:3 aspect ratio! I hope one day can release it min 4:3, aside from beautiful composition it would also benefit from the increased sharpness of full frame because 1.85:1 is zoomed in.

@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz

4 ай бұрын

I think when you refer to 4:3 you were noticing a clip showing an open matte still or footage. Sometimes an open matte happens to be well framed, but this movie was definitely not composed for 4:3 (SD TV and also roughly Academy Ratio). More often than not, even if some shots look good, many other open mattes have poor composition or literally unacceptable issues like showing past the fully decorated set or revealing things like lights, microphones, cables, ladders, stagehands, etc.

My father still has an unused print from when he was a projectionist. The theater was sent an extra print and my dads boss told him to keep it. It’s still in perfect condition and it was never used. Paramount offered my dad tons of money a few years back and he refused and still refuses. He got upset with me because I reached out to paramount to let them know. Oh well, maybe he will leave to me so we can see The God Father in the way it was meant to be seen.

@bman6285

5 ай бұрын

It is exactly same as blu ray Blu ray uses 2k prints 2k prints are copies of the negative that are less accurate details and color wise Reason they copy off the negative Is that every use of the negative more it degrades in lifespan But I would actually see if you could somehow give it to somebody like Quentin taratino for his new Beverly cinema theater something like that bet the film community would appreciate it

@bman6285

5 ай бұрын

Colors don't look same as how you saw them as the negative but the negative is the true intention

@DeepDishPizza

5 ай бұрын

@@bman6285 It’s a 4k print not a 2k which we have already confirmed.

Saw the remasters yesterday. The original Godfather looked great, but Godfather II looked like it was shot on videotape. Very weird and disconcerting, it lost the vintagey archival quality that made the movie so great. Almost as if GF2 were done as a late 70’s made for TV movie.

I'd swear that the gunfire is louder. fine w/ me. I got this for Christmas in BLU-RAY. it's like I'm on the set.

One of the greatest films ever.

Gordon Willis is turning in his grave. What debauchery!!

Sorry to be a buzz-kill but, I just don't get it. The comparison at 15:49 is one example of many where, to my eye, every aspect of the image has been degraded. The skin looks positively artificial. And so much effort to lighten all the shadows? I guess there are plenty of Rembrandts that need "correction" then. In a few years this will just be the "2022" version with it's cliche trendy blue/beige emphasis that you see in every current TV show, newscast and stock photo. I agree with other commenters - Gordon Willis must be turning in his grave. Coppola approves of this?

@stephaniestanley8041

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was shot so the lighting could NEVER be altered. The cinematography was purposely dark, moody, in very warm hues.

@bman6285

5 ай бұрын

It is likely the settings used from recorder also there is precise settings needed to be used on tv for 4k hdr10 or dolby vision remasters Typically tv's have some crappy judder settings on this was recorded from the disc likely The video also isn't in 4k hdr10 and KZread and streaming in general has a low bitrate

For everyone assuming to know how the movie should look, coppola himself was involved in this process. He prob knows what he intended the film to look like.

I prefer when it was done in chronological order 1901 - 1958 tv version. Wonderful scenes added in & didn’t keep flashing back.

@HardRockMaster7577

2 жыл бұрын

I also.... and I will patiently wait for that be released in 4K.

@donaldduck7461

2 жыл бұрын

@@HardRockMaster7577 Good one, same here mate.

Thanks. Do you have: "Capturing the Corleones: Through the Lens of Photographer Steve Schapiro" as well?

@MafiaGameVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I'll upload in 4 hours.

@fastcharger8299

2 жыл бұрын

@@MafiaGameVideos Thank you.

I remember watching a black and white version of The Godfather when I was younger and I wish I could find it and watch it again. The feel and mood of the film is so different

@AR7271

Жыл бұрын

Turn your TV's color settings down to 0. Presto, everything is black and white!

@ludwigvanbeethoven5483

9 ай бұрын

@@AR7271😂

On par with Predator for how bad the DNR is. Truly an example of how not to restore a beloved classic.

That’s cool and all, but they didn’t add in a CG alien negotiating with the Don and Michael’s iconic musical number. All in all pretty disappointed with this remaster :(

@ThisIsCreation-FollowOnTwitter

Жыл бұрын

Luca screams MacClunkey! When he's being killed

It wasn’t that Godfather III wasn’t a good movie, it was that the character of Michael Corleone had changed. Al Pacino’s voice and mannerisms changed so dramatically that it didn’t feel like the same character. Also I didn’t think George Hamilton was a good replacement for Robert Duvall and there’s Sofia Coppola.

@BostonsF1nest

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t mind GF3 however Michaels hair always bothered me. It’s like a bad crew cut. He should have had slicked back hair

@thegrimyeaper

Жыл бұрын

Sofia is my favorite part of that movie.

@G.RobertMoore-dk4sz

4 ай бұрын

Don't pick on Sofia, she had to fill in when Winona Ryder was no longer available.

So is all this restoration on the 50th anniversary trilogy Blu ray?

4 points yellow, 1 point red

Do you think hangar 13 will make remake of mafia 2?

I just watched it again . And for the love of me can't remember if Tom was kidnapped in the original release .

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

He was

I saw this version yesterday. Best restauration I ever saw. 😮

IDK…I like the sepia tone and dim lighting. I think they thought this was a Beatles movie??

Can you make a vito long gampelay in mafia 3 Please

so basically they removed all the yellow and brown patina. I don´t like it to much. Didn´t keep alot of the original feeling.

why nobody is doing fullscreen restorations???

I like original golden tone more

Can someone pls provide me the link to download the remastered version of the Godfather released for 50th anniversary

Mio bambino

call me picky, but when I got my new BLU-RAY of this '22 release, I was on one hand, KO'd by the clarity, but had this nagging feeling that the GF actors were too olive skinned. I did some minor adjustments, as my SAMSUNG TV allows me to, and it's still the golden '70's masterpeice it always was, but the richnes of color and detail is the best viewing I've had at home, ever, of this film.

This is like the way they cleaned and restored the Sistine Chapel I believe they ruined it they took away so many soft tones the look of The Originals how it was originally intended whatever they're doing to it now it looks better in their bind but it really isn't because it was a success when it first came out for a reason

someone yakkin' away making cash from the origional

Also, I'd like to see an edit that just shows the differences rather than the added 12 minutes of bragging about what was done...sorry, but a narrator would have served better, and what is there is mostly repetitive...

@MafiaGameVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Here you go! kzread.info/dash/bejne/ma18xNhqqtnMl9Y.html

I can't find this in torrent

when I watch this movie all I keep thinking about is that most of these people are dead.

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

Thougths like that dawn on me as well, especially with movies from 1910 and 1930s.

Not Bad, But I wouldn't pay that much money, just cause it's 4k. That's to much money. Considering that each original old DVD movies where 5 dollars each and that's what makes it Authentic the first original DVD. There was no need for the company to over price these movies just cause it's 4k.

No this is all wrong. The lighting told a story all by itself. The shadows. This didnt need to be remastered.

11:53 Side by side of Johnny Fontaine shows just how egregiously they destroyed Gordon Willis' shadowy golden artistry. I saw this in the theaters. I thought it was beautiful. But looking at a lot of these side by sides, I think they did a terrible disservice in terms of color and lighting.

I wonder why people always have to remaster films or music. Why?? Has the quality gone bad? Do we really need to change things? Isn't good good enough anymore? When i look at the two versions in the screen, i like the unremastered version much better. To me, remastering is not (always) a good thing. It's as if there is a group of people on this planet that seem to think that things should be refurbished. You also see it when they do new versions of tv-series or movies that have been done. Why??? Don't they have their own ideas? They just steal what's already been done, put new "stars" in the movie or music, and well ladies and gentlemen: we have made a great movie or song. It's ridiculous. Shameful. It's showing off other people's feathers. I mean, when it's a really important film (like for instance World War documentaries that have gone bad because of time), i can understand that these films are enhanced, but for God's sake, why do we need stuff like Grease 2, Dynasty remake, Star Wars remake, Charmed remake and so on. It's such a load of crap. And: the reason for this is very clear to me: there are people (filmmakers, producers and so on) that think they do it better. They are the entitled people. It's horrible.

@spencerkeimon9657

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I would want to watch a movie without scratches, fading and hisses. As long as the creative forces can restore the film to the original standard as it was first released, I see this as a win win.

@AR7271

Жыл бұрын

Remastered music, when done well, is transferred from its original analog format to a higher quality audio medium. Yes, analog to digital audio converters have improved a LOT over the years. As for films, just the same. The equipment to transfer these works of art have improved a lot over time. When DVD came out, high definition with standard dynamic range (REC 709) transfers were common. In the year 2022, 8K with high dynamic range exposure is the standard. Also, audio quality is better thanks to lossless encoding!

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

​​@@AR7271 Lossless have been a possibility for several decades, MP3 and such formats existed to cut down storage-space which truly were the issue back then. 4k being able to hold 66Gb-100GB unlocked the possibility to use lossless at the finest possible quality.

At 3:00 it's too bad they changed the color of people' hair in the front from brown to black. And the gentleman who's behind the microphone, had a brown color suit. Brown. Now it's dark grey. These brown colors were there for a reason. In the 2022 version of this scene, too much of its warmth is now lost.

@bvdzh

Жыл бұрын

yeah whole movie looks just whiter and brighter and lost all of its original patina. to bad.

Sucked the life outta it. But at least we can see his wrinkles right?

I love how damn near every one of these comparisons makes the new restoration look like ass.

too much blue, every scene. The yellow hue was the best.

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

That is because they show SDR Clips of something intended to be seen in HDR. When you see the HDR the colors will pop out, far better dynamics at a higher bitrate. If you prefer the lower Bitrate color of the 2010's, so be it.

Newer looks older tho lmaoo💀💀😂

I looked better before tho!

黄冰楠到此一游

Why don’t they try to touch up the Mona Lisa? …. Leave it ALONE!!!!!!!!

@mr.b9613

Жыл бұрын

They're just rescanning it for a higher quality physical media. They're not changing the movie dude.

@pleasedieKindly

Жыл бұрын

They do touch up paintings look it up

@bman6285

5 ай бұрын

Also negatives colors are more accurate before 4k blu ray every version was 2k print which isn't as accurate as the negative the negative colors are correct and not the 2k prints Reasons they use 2k prints is that the negative degrades over use so they copy it and make 2k prints they never bothered using negative because standard blu ray could go up to 2k and color spectrum wasn't wide enough due to hdr10 and dolby vision not existing Even old theaters only used 2k prints

Original is better

looks terrible in comparison with the 2007 version, like they forgot the color timing

@birdsteak9267

5 ай бұрын

Have you seen it on your screen, with HDR? Because it's calibrated for HDR and what you see here is SDR.

They should've restored GF1 and GF2 and burned the negative of GF3.

The original has a better quality