As always, you always do awesome work. Looks and runs like new. Thanks for sharing Mr. Winky!!!!!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Always good to hear from you!

Another piece of history saved! Great job and thanks for sharing.

@WinkysWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Fantastic video ! I love it when a piece of vintage machinery gets a new lease on life !

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! Thanks!

My favorite videos are of your rebuilding old machinery. Plus it bothers me how many of these great old pieces end up in are landfills or melted down. The old equipment has such awesome design details that are considered to costly to produce today.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I totally agree. Some newer machines are made well but cost and profit come before pride.

Nice restauration of the drillpress, it look´s great. 🖖

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

wow, I haven't seen one of these drill press since I was in secondary school. There was one in our machine shop, and as far as I know our shop teacher kept it in mint condition. What an awesome find you have there.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I cold not pass it up - Thanks!

Great job wink' I restored a 1896 camel back, made in buffalo n.y. over the summer it looks and works great. Love working on this old machinery. Great video.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Very cool! Thanks... I love the old stuff too.

Great job there Winky. Keep on keeping on.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

That buckboard is awesome...I saw one of your vids on that before...I started watching this one not knowing you were the buckboard guy and I was like...hey!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! This drill press was in bad shape but I use it fairly often now. It's kind of nice having one for wood and one for metal.

Really turned out amazing! I could imagine some guy standing there 10+ hours a day putting holes in castings. Really amazing piece of history.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I'm so grad I'm finished with 10 hour (actually 12 hour) days! Retirement is a good thing!

Gday, great to see another vintage machine saved from the scrap heap, the repairs you did look good, I’m sure you’ll sort out the wobble in the quill, great job mate, take care. Matty

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Another fine job , looks great !

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John!

Great job on that drill press. Glad to see that I'm not the only one with one of those galvanized oil drain pans. I think I got mine at Western Auto back in the day.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Ha... I can't remember where my oil pan came from.

Well done amd thank you for sharing . I found it reallly motivating and really enjoyed watching it . My Walker Turner also has an abused table that needs some seriuos tlc or even replacement .

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently braze does very well. I suspect it's just as strong as the casting. Mine had a lot of brass in the table!

Great job with this machine, especially all the cracked and broken castings! Given the locations of the cracks, I'd guess some very heavy workpieces were being drilled on this machine, and over-stressing the cast components. That cast column with the arch at the top is crazy cool!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I agree... it has a very cool look. Thanks for watching!

hello Mark,now that you got this drill press finished,you can ship this to my home,hahahaha take care mark,enjoyed this one too....i'm getting addicted.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah right! I think I'll make this my woodworking drill press. I'm trying to separate my metal working from the wood a little more. It's hard to do in a small shop!

👍👍😎👍👍 ...... 1st step is to take it apart 😳. Really nice result. That was a lot of work. Please keep us posted on how you solved the run out? Joel....

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

This thing was a puzzle!

Nice job! Looks like one happy piece of old iron to me!!!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

It does! Thanks

Great job! Looks like you will get lots of use out of that tool!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

That's the plan! Thanks

So nice! And the features of your square column to boot! I have a set of MT cutters if you need to borrow one. Look forward to you indicating to see what the error is. It would be true'r t. bore the taper if it needs touched up from prior damage. An old press like that could have gone through so many things. I wouldn't be shocked if the spindle had a bend in it or if the taper had been spun and damaged at some point in the past. Imagine how many apprentices must have used that drill press. An old tool brings a lot of experience into the shop. Liked.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah... I thought about it being related to the taper but as near as I can tell it's bent a couple inches above the bottom bearing. The taper seems to be in very good shape. I'll remove the spindle and chuck it in the latte and get a real picture of whats going on. The taper has a reduced area that hangs on to the tang on the end of the taper. It can't rotate. I made the spindle in the tail stock of my South Bend like that. My Logan is NOT made like that and its a big problem.

That turned out great! The color is super nice,when we braze cast we use the cutting torch head as it gets heat in a wider area,not using the cutting part of course,works well,and once you get used to applying the heat. We wont use nickle rod on anything pre 1950 as the cast iron is sketchy at best.I have a Charles Parker vise that literally looked like Frankenstein with all the braze on it,8 pieces if I remember after we took the paint off.cleaned it repainted and have been trying to break it for the last 10 years.maybe some gold paint on the letters? Great machine! And doing it in one video.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

HA... I wish you told me about the nickle rod before I welded! You are right, it welded terrible. I think it will hold but it looks rough. The cutting torch crossed my mind, if I had brasses the piece I had welded I would have used the cutting torch. Thanks on the color... I like the gold lettering idea too!

Great video. I love those old drill presses. I think you need to invest in one those harbor freight hydraulic presses, it's saved me many times over getting bearings in.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Actually I have a huge 3 ton arbor press with a 21 inch throat. Still, I could not fit anything in the press. There was one spot where I was beating a short shaft but this was a punch I made to fit the sleeve inside a bearing. The sleeve was made in a way that made it impossible to hold in the press. 10:13

That's a nice restoration of an old iron machine. You'll use it for years and with good drills you'll enjoy making nice accurate holes. A Drill Doctor is worth buying to keep those good drills sharp. Try Rustoleum Hammered paint. I think it's the best looking paint for machines. It's easy peasy to use and it's a tough finish. Manganese bronze is a good choice for brazing iron and steel. It makes a joint that's nearly as strong as a weld but it's still a braze (get a good flux too).

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice on the brazing. I should have brazed instead of using the nickle rod but I think it will hold. Thanks for watching!

Very Nice job.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Looks good nice Job

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Nice video Winky, it looks like it still has a lot of use left in it, and they don't build em like they used to, cheers.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Actually thee quality of the castings was not so good but the design concept is great. You can go from a center drill to a 10 inch reamer by just moving the quill slide. Logical!

Mine was a Cincinnati Cannedy-Otto drill press. It was a royal pita also

@WinkysWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

This drill press has some good features but it's hard to work for sure. I love the dovetailed table and quill. I wish somebody made a good standard drill press with a dovetailed column instead of a round pipe.

Been looking forward to your resto on this. Comment from first 2 minutes. That bracket which looks like some kind of motor drive pulley top support could be used to mount a center slow down pulley. Maybe a future project. Some Walker Turners did it off a stem that stuck up from the motor mount in a similar way. Since you are into metal working, I'm wondering how fitting the minimum chuck RPM on this will be. A family member is holding one of these for me in a barn. A similar sized press. I've not room for it but soon as I do, I'll go get it. I love the lines and what a classy thing to have in restored condition.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Yes... it is classy! Very cool looking. That's a cool idea on the jack shaft. Currently the speed range is 400 to 1750... can't remember what the middle speed it but 400 is too cast for larger drills.

Hi Winky, all that cracking would freak me out and I'd sell it and try again. But I hope you have good luck with it. The flyer is cool !

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

It did amaze me how many repair this old drill press had but they all looked very well done. I suspect the brass is as strong as the original casting. The castings looked porous but it will likely hold up to anything I use it for. There is no telling what kind of abuse this thing has seen but judging by the table it was very abused.

Nice job on the restoration.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Muy bien restaurado viejas.glorias.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Gracias

Scotchbrite discs in an angle grinder are my favorite way to strip paint. They take the paint fast, but don't hurt metal at all. You might have to hit tight spots with a blaster.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I was worried about lead in the paint. But good tip otherwise.

Glad your saving it.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Its a cool drill press. Thanks

The old girl has a few more decades in her yet. The castings should be ok. Well done

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, thanks!

Neat old drill press

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I think so too. what I like best is the way the table and quill work. Everything slides on dovetails and stays aligned. 100 years ago they did it right and you can not find one now days. All have round columns!

That base casting filler is probably asphaltum. It's very hard to get off and messy! Looks like a great project

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

You are probably correct on the asphaltum. Was that used for a filler? I thought maybe it was japanning which was actually made from asphalt.

It's a cracking drill and you did a great job restoring it but I would still rather have your square pillar drill out of the two.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you sir. I agree.

That was a interesting project I didn't want to stop to get a second cup of coffee. Hopefully the run out is in the chuck or the arbor. I couldn't imagine it being in the spindle unless it is wallowed out. I hope you show us what is going on with it when you figure it out. Your buck board flyer if I'm saying it right must be a blast.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes the buckboard flyer is a blast. I gave a friend of mine a ride this morning and he was giggling the whole time. I'm not sure what I'll do with the run out but the spindle has to come out and I'll put in in my lathe to see what I have.

@andyZ3500s

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop I could see you guys flying around the neighborhood like a bunch of kids, but isn't that what it's for? To bad you have to take the spindle out again. This time it will be alot easier. Once you it's is on the lathe you will be able to figure it out. There is always alot of satisfaction in getting a older machine restored and working well. Good luck Winky

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyZ3500s - Yeah... the spindle isn't too bad now that I know how it goes together. The pulley and bearings on the top were a pain however. Yeah.... we had fun riding the flyer today. My friend said, "man that was great, can you imagine having one of these when we were kids?" A while back, about a year ago when I first saw a picture of a Buckboard Flyer I told the wife, "I'm gong to build this car". She said, "Are you a kid or what?" I said, "Well yeah, and now I have the tools, time, knowledge and parts to build cool toys!"

@andyZ3500s

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop that's great "Are you a kid or what" Just think if when you were a kid if you had the tools and knowledge. I certainly tried hard with what I had then, which was energy.

Winky, pop the chuck out of the spindle and try your lathe tailstock one. Even try a morse taper drill in the spindle. It may be that the drill chuck arbor is bent. Well done and still can't get over your little run about car.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave, yeah, I tried several chucks and they were all the same. The taper is in great shape also. Thanks on the car, it's a blast!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I found the taper had some damage. I need to remove the spindle and clean it up in the lathe. I improved it a little by hand but I'm afraid I'll get is reamed a little crooked if I don't do it in the lathe. I need to correct the bottom bearing fit on the spindle anyway. Thanks for giving me the push in the right direction!

@canaaneric9790

2 жыл бұрын

i dont mean to be off topic but does any of you know of a tool to get back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot my login password. I appreciate any help you can offer me!

@devoncyrus7708

2 жыл бұрын

@Canaan Eric Instablaster ;)

@canaaneric9790

2 жыл бұрын

@Devon Cyrus I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im waiting for the hacking stuff atm. Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later with my results.

Use it for a roughing drill press and go buy a good 16" table top drill press. The bearings on the motor are dry, check it with an amp probe for 5% or more deviation on amp draw. The revitalization was alot of work and probably alot of money for paint stripping etc, but in the end it does look good.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Hello John, I had the pulley side of the motor off and the bearing was great. I guess it's the other end. Also the little gizmo on top designed to help support the motor shaft has a loose fit in the pulley. It has a self aligning bearing so the shaft is probably slightly cocked in the bore. This is making some of the noise. Judging by how long the motor freewheels when I kill the power the bearings are free. I got the press for $80 and the bearings and stripper cost me about $50 so $130 isn't too bad. Mostly just a lot of labor! I'll probably live with the motor noise. I've had motors run for years making similar noise. On the plus side, it came with a Jacobs ball bearing chuck that would cost $250 if I bought it new. I'm using it in my lathe now.

Did you change all the bearings, if not it is my frame of thought only that there maybe slack in the old bearings. It was a great build you are very skilled.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I changed all but one bearing but it was very tight. There is a loose fit on the OD of the bottom spindle bearing but this is coming from a bent spindle. I wish it was the bearing. Still, I don't think it will be heard to fix.

1:12 proceeds to drop screws, or nuts, or... thats how I disassemble as well. ;-)

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

No kidding!... and you didn't see what I edited out!

Regarding brazing I encourage you to watch Keith Fenner at Turn Wright Machine Works ON brazing tactics, especially cast iron. I'd say he's as close to a master as you're going to find for future projects. Looking good though

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I'll bet Keith could give me some good pointers. I welded part of by preheating and using nickel rod. So far its hanging on great. I think the brassing i did was in a place that was not critical. I'd probably need a couple of torches or an oven to get the braze to flow.

I have the same drill press. Any idea on what year they were made? Mine has oilers and didn't need a rebuild. It works great i added a foot switch for safety.

@WinkysWorkshop

2 жыл бұрын

Mine had a name plate but I can't read the date. As near as i can tell its about 1925 to 1930. I'd like to had a table lift on mine. Like the knee on a mill.

Thanks for the video. I will soon be attempting that same restoration of What appears to be the same model. Could you tell me what kind of oil you use in the bearings? Or grease.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I've been using 20 wt non-detergent oil in the oil cup at the top end of the quill. This lubricates the bearing by the oil cup and drips down to the one by the chuck. There are two bearing in the upper pulley assembly which I replaced with sealed bearing. Mine are 6206-2rs. The bearing by the oil cup was 6-204-4. I bought it with seals but in needs to be open so that oil can flow through to the bottom bearing. I popped the seals out. Be sure to watch my video when you take the top pulley apart. It was a real puzzle to get apart! Also, my bottom bearing (next to the chuck) was in great shape but I suspect it is no longer available.

@jeremylay4207

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop awesome, thank you so much for the reply. I was actually really hoping not to have to take any of that top bearing assembly apart. I don't have the metal lathe so I'm afraid if I do something to damage the spindle or bend it I won't be able to get it back in alignment. I would love to remove the quill and spindle though. Do you know if that's possible without removing the bearing and pulleys? I was hoping it could just drop right out the bottom because I see the keyway goes all the way to the top on the spindle.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremylay4207 - No problem. My bearings were free but rough and loud. If you end up replacing yours watch my video again. It was a pain to get apart but mostly because I wasn't sure how it wa made. Also, used a brass hammer.

@jeremylay4207

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop Yeah I will definitely be watching it a few more times. Love the videos. It's my dream to keep my shop as organized as yours. 👍

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremylay4207 - What can I say, I'm retired. It's more organized then ever before. This week I have been building a cabinet for my daughter and I was thinking about how much I was enjoying doing this. The main reason is that I a not pressed for time. I guess you might say, I'm enjoying the process as much as the outcome.

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@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

ευχαριστώ

Maybe some brass hammers and punches to whip on those parts with?

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I made punched for most. I turned a ledge that went into the ID. You might remember one spot where I said, "against my better judgment". I did mess up the end of the shaft (you might call it a spline but it just has to key ways). If it was a bearing fit I would not have been so careless but it didn't have any negative effect. But YES, I do not a brass hammer and it would have been better. The stuck bearing was a very strange set up. It had a sleeve the shape of a fanged sleeve bearing only it was made of steel and the flange was large and covered the bearing. NOTE: At 10:15 I was hitting a punch I made and just after that you will see the weird shield I was driving out.

@leeroyholloway4277

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop Yes, it was quite a puzzle to manage, but you got it done. A noble effort to resurrect a neat old machine. Thank you for the reply, I enjoy your channel.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeroyholloway4277 - Thank you for the positive comment!

Those things will break your bones if you're not careful. Top heavy and heavy.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

This one is very stable but certainly very HEAVY!

try resetting the tapper shaft they some time need to be reset.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

You mean, ream the taper? That is a great idea. In fact I found that it is indeed the taper that is messed up. I reamed it a little and made a lot of improvement but I need to take out the spindle and do it in a lathe. I need to address the bottom bearing fit anyway. I'll probably locktite the bearing but it still needs to come out.

Awesome! So glad you mentioned "japaning" I have an old cochrane bly slotter/mill from the 20s best guess. It looks like it's original color is some dull black. I kind of want to give it it's orginal color (once it's working again). There was much debate about whether that was paint or a primer. I think my 1929 hendey may also have something similar for its original color. I was also curious how much that drive belt cost? And it's length? And where you got it made? So glad to see this up n running, these are great looking old machines

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

My south bend had that same dark charcoal or dull black finish. It's almost looked like a dye rather than paint. The drill press had like hard black filler but also a black finish. I'm not sure what they are but I can't find anything for finish that has that old look.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I forgot to answer the drive belt question. I retired from a printing company and they gave me some left over surplus belting. To splice the belt you grind a taper on the ends, use a special glue and clamp a special heater on the splice for 20 minutes. It works fantastic for up to about 1 HP and you don't have to take anything apart to install a belt. I have the tools and glue needed to splice plus I built a belt grinder. After I retired I made the belts for the company for 2 years. I wish I could sell prepared belts but having the tools and glue needed to make the splice is the problem. The heater is ridiculously expensive!

@craigtate5930

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop that's handy. Flat belt is 1 of the things I am considering down the road for my cochrane bly. So I pay special attention when anyone does a belt. There's a few different ways to connect them it seems

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigtate5930 - A while back I spliced a test belt using two pieces of 2 x 2 x 1/2 - inch steel. I heated them in the oven to 300 F for 20 minutes and then clamped them on a belt slice until they were was cool enough to handle. It worked perfect but there is still the issue of glue. The bottles have enough to make about 30 to 50 splices and cost $25. They don't sell is in a smaller bottle and it is considered an industrial product. Here's the glue. About $35 with shipping. Just for an idea most belts are between $180 and 1.80/foot

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigtate5930 How many HP is you Cochrane?

How come you don't use a spray gun, it's got to be cheaper? Over here in England it's about £9 ($11.75) for a small spray can...

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I have done both and always spray wood finishes. I used can for a couple of reasons. First, sometimes what you buy to in a quart gun doesn't seem to cover as well, although this is not always the case. Second, the spray cans are about $6 here (I used 3 cans) and a quart of paint is about $15. By the time I clean the gun 3 times and add the cost of solvent the costs are about the same. The only advantage to buying a quart is that I would have more paint left over. Sometimes that's a plus but I already have too many paint cans sitting around.

Looks like the DP fell forward and broke the table and cracked the rest.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say it was dropped at one time although the cast iron quality is not the best either.

Why don't they make stuff like this anymore?

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

With today's technology they could make something even better... power lift tables, mill table etc. I've asked the same question.

why did you paint it black when all your other machinery is white? great job though!!

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Good question.... although my other machine dark gray and gray. I guess I just wanted a change but I was kind of aiming at the original color of my South Bend and the Drill press which seemed to be a Charcoal gray. I missed the match..... I compromised when I could not find charcoal gray in a semi-gloss. Thanks

@emanekaf4107

3 жыл бұрын

@@WinkysWorkshop still an awesome job. You did really well again, thanks for the video

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

@@emanekaf4107 Thanks! You are very welcome.

I love these drill presses I'd walk a mile for this type of camel

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Ha... I remember that commercial!

Brass hammer, dead blow, wood, hand. Anything would be better than directly beating on a machined surface. In my opinion. Then, run out.

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

I need to get a brass hammer (the dead blow or hammer with wood would not budge the shaft) although in all but one case I was driving a bar turned down to fit on an ID. It looked like I was beating part of the drill press when I was not. Also, driving the end of a shaft will not cause run out. You can see where somebody used a hammer on the side of the tube with the taper. They may have been trying to straighten the spindle of it could have been the original cause, hard to say. I'll be removing the shaft and indicating it in my lathe. I guess I'll have to mark the shaft, take it out of the lathe and use some leverage to straighten it. I do have a very large arbor press (21 high) but nothing from the drill press fits

Suena a algo descentrado NO???..

@WinkysWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

Se agotó un poco, pero no estuvo mal.