Camelback Drill Press Gears - Part 1: Making the First Gear Ring
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@marydickson5871 Жыл бұрын
Long ago my grandfather explained to me that it is not that a master worker does not make mistakes, it is that they know what to do about them. Nice save by the master.
@peterhobson3262 Жыл бұрын
I like how you admitted to the mistake on the drill bit size and explained what you do to fix it. Thanks.
@jackgreen412
Жыл бұрын
Just shows Keith is human.
@SweetTooth8989
Жыл бұрын
For sure. I really doubt just by watching the video anybody would have picked up on the wrong drill hole anyway but of course there's no point in pretending that no mistake was made since we all make them.
@dagwood1327 Жыл бұрын
Good project. Your weight loss journey is looking good.
@danhei Жыл бұрын
Keith it appears you have dropped a fair bit of weight. Hope you are feeling better. As always a great episode. Cheers from 🇨🇦
@jackpledger8118 Жыл бұрын
Great recover from a mistake that we all occasionally make. Good to see how to overcome the problems.
@kevincampbell3173 Жыл бұрын
I had a feeling the operation you had was something to do with weight loss. your looking great Keith!
@greavous93 Жыл бұрын
You are looking good Keith. Im happy for you!
@edsmachine93 Жыл бұрын
Very nice Keith. Good start on the gear blank. Thanks for sharing.
@ddblairco Жыл бұрын
thank you Keith, this is going to be a great series.
@davidgreen9985 Жыл бұрын
Hello Keith, I always marvel at the sheer range of tooling in your shop be it drills reamers,boring bars milling cutters etc and the cost of just the cutting tools must be enormous. Love watching steel stock becoming gears. Thanks
@larrysperling8801 Жыл бұрын
good save on the dowel holes. i have used a drill checker for years after my similar experiences.
@kennethdejardin795 Жыл бұрын
Hello Keith always a stand up guy I love watching your channel
@51ubetcha Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy watching machinery repair and rebuild. Keep that old iron alive.👍
@lancekincaid561010 ай бұрын
I know this is older but I like watching your videos. So impressive
@terminalpsychosis8022 Жыл бұрын
This is a fun project. Fairly simple compared to the massive machine overhauls. Gear making is always so saticfying. Looking forward to more of this one.
@malindasamarasinghe9909 Жыл бұрын
You are looking good.
@scottvolage1752 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, Keith. More gears to work on always fun.
@weijingburr2392 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir. Evidently things are changing. I hope very much you're in good health. Thank you for your time and effort in sharing your knowledge.
@melshea2276 Жыл бұрын
Good Morning Georgia!😊
@alstonofalltrades3142 Жыл бұрын
The way that gear pressed fit out so easy at the start, enjoy them breezes when they come everyone, you'll soon be into a project that is testing your metal.
@stevendephillips2490 Жыл бұрын
That indexing chuck is a pretty nifty tool to have VS starting in one hole and changing bits, reamers, counterbores... then moving to the next position to do it all over again.
@vitesseguy Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks. You're looking great! And I pray you're feeling well.
@Rorschach1024 Жыл бұрын
@Keith Rucker, I'd suggest case hardening the teeth of the gears, then setting them up in a cobbled together jig so that they can turn against each other and grease them up with lapping compound and let them polish each other.
@Rorschach1024
Жыл бұрын
If you don't have any "casenit", another method is to grind up some charcoal, take some stainless steel foil and put the gear in a foil envelope and fill and pack charcoal dust around it and put it in your heat treating oven for a few hours. If you have the inert gas atmosphere attachment, then you can just put the gear in a steel or ceramic pie pan and cover the gear with charcoal dust and dispense with the stainless foil.
@dynamiceq7215 Жыл бұрын
Rather than throwing the drill bit away, consider grinding back the softened part of the bit to fresh metal and reshape/sharpen. I have done this many times after someone has damaged the flutes by wallowing with a hand drill or burnt out the tip of the flutes by drilling with dull/damaged bit.
@keith73z28 Жыл бұрын
I saw you over on Clark Easterling's channel, helping him with his shop. Very cool got others to jump in and help with the walls also. Thanks for the machining video. ........Keith
@johnrice6793 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Very well done.👍👍
@davidsearle22638 ай бұрын
There is a saying The man who never made a mistake, never made anything.
@michaelscott8226 Жыл бұрын
Takes a big man to admit to making a mistake. You have always been a stand-up guy, so I didn't expect anything less of you. Great job once again. Your shirts are looking a little big there, bud. The weight loss does look good. Can't wait for the next video. Haven't seen the cats in a while, but the puppy looks cute.
@petemclinc Жыл бұрын
The takeaway here is always verify you tool sizes before going to final dimension. Why wait for the counterbore, jut use an endmill.
@malliz1 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Keith looking good
@jimc4731 Жыл бұрын
I have often used an end mill to produce the counter bore for a cap screw When drilling use the surface speed calculation for best results Keep up the good work JIM ❤
@Pileits Жыл бұрын
I admire your skills.
@CHICOB4261 Жыл бұрын
Still the most honest, genuine guy on the YT! Hey Mr. Keith, I apologize for pointing this out, but looks like you’re losing weight, I hope that’s the plan. I know we can all trim down as we get older, at least I do.😂 thanks for your great channel and content!
@johncloar1692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith for the video. I alway like these projects.
@georgesweap7 Жыл бұрын
Looking good Keith, you lost a lot of weight! Good content!
@walterplummer3808 Жыл бұрын
Good morning. Another great project.
@tonyvancampen-noaafederal2640 Жыл бұрын
Nice project, thanks for all of the detailed explanation. As an aside - helping a coworker the other day, mounting and industrial strength can opener in the kitchen - so we used olive oil as the lubricant / coolant for the job, worked a treat. Only thing that I goofed up on was not changing the battery on the drill motor. Got a little slow. Finished up really quick after the new battery was put in.🤣
@GlennNowOnYouTube Жыл бұрын
Great video, I always enjoy watching you work. Take care.
@JT-tz5hp Жыл бұрын
Good reminder for myself to double check that drill size .
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
The weight loss looks great. Thanks for sharing.
@TheAyrCaveShop Жыл бұрын
Good one Keith, enjoyed. Been there with drill bit size error, now I keep a drill gauge next to the cabinet...funny how they jump into the wrong slots. ATB...
@patrickcolahan7499 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Keith, thanks for sharing.
@catfishgray3696 Жыл бұрын
KEITH, LOOKING GOOD AND GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU WHEN...
@grampiangs515 Жыл бұрын
This is then stuff we love!
@leeroyholloway4277 Жыл бұрын
oops happens, thanks for the reminder. I have gotten into the habit of hitting critical drills with the dial caliper before committing. Mainly because I cant see the etching on the bit with my near vision without using a magnifying glass.
@richardjones-sl2zd
Жыл бұрын
Which is what Abom said he does in one of his videos, once the inevitable happened. I hope the comments section on here doesn't degenerate into the Abomesque everyone makes mistakes, happens to the best of us, only proves he's human nonsense; I mean, who the f**k cares.
@tomnorman5461 Жыл бұрын
Algorithm BOOSTER! Great job Keith!
@WilliamTMusil Жыл бұрын
Hiya Keith
@scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Жыл бұрын
Always a great video very informative thank you for sharing
@elsdp-4560 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Very much enjoyed.👍
@geraldharkness8830 Жыл бұрын
good work keith!
@DavidSmith-xj1jc Жыл бұрын
There are no mistakes tell you can't fix it , just change of plans
@philipmackin1025 Жыл бұрын
The dog will NOT be walking away with the provided food bowl
@kensherwin4544 Жыл бұрын
@13:47 "That drill bit may have gotten hoy in the past and lost its temper." I hate it when my drill bits (or lathe bits for that matter) get mad at me.
@geneard639 Жыл бұрын
@15:04 as you are applying pressure to the drill bit, that tailstock is creeping backwards quite a bit... by 15:08 its moved over an inch.
@Tammy-un3ql Жыл бұрын
Thanks.👍👍👍
@garybrenner6236 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the Stoker Engine?
@Mikes5785 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever finish the Derista drill press?
@W4BIN Жыл бұрын
I suppose, if you don't have a sized broach, a one tooth tool can be created to be used on a scraper instead. Ron W4BIN
@danrabenhorst2549 Жыл бұрын
nice video
@whalley6044 Жыл бұрын
How do you determine the proper type of steel, heat treating, etc. in the original gear?
@eworks9828 Жыл бұрын
nice.
@johnmillward8326 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you retemper that drill bit. I would be interested in that video.
@rhenry7949 Жыл бұрын
Some one is shrinking... you look great man.
@slyfox7429 Жыл бұрын
Hey we all make mistakes now and then. The real test is to fix it so nobody knows! I had a good friend that always had a 0-1 micrometer in his pocket no matter where he went.
@EastCoastWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Keith, I just finished watching the videos on the New Haven Metal planer. It came out extrodinary, great job. I had asked you when you first got it if you would be interesed in planing my tables for my American 8" jointer, you said you would need some practice first. I was wondering if you feel up to it? I am going to be pulling it apart and having Shelix custom make a sprial cutting head for it that will take 4 to 6 months to make. Let me know. thanks.
@melshea2276 Жыл бұрын
👍
@RobertKohut Жыл бұрын
I'm geared up.... 🙂
@grandpaseed Жыл бұрын
Camelback
@guyloughridge4628 Жыл бұрын
Keith, what type of steel are you using? Stress Proof 1144? or other
@thisolesignguy2733 Жыл бұрын
Boy that was a pretty cut on the bandsaw. kinda heartbreaking to machine it down
@frenchcreekvalley Жыл бұрын
Is that just mild steel?
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
30:50...that can happen to ANYONE-(!)
@joshuatreadway9045 Жыл бұрын
What brand of super spacer is that?
@jacilynns6330 Жыл бұрын
I do t understand why kieth didn’t use original holes. They should have been in near perfect shape having never been removed before.
@bobhudson6659
Жыл бұрын
That's fine if you find a way to accurately work out where each hole is, remembering that the holes are blind meaning you can't just drill from the other side of the shaft to come though the new front gear. I suppose it is possible to figure out exactly where each hole is positioned but the time and effort to do that for the benefit gained would not be warranted, especially if the holes were not originally accurately positioned using a super spacer or the like - each hole would have to be plotted accurately on the DRO in X and Y position. Even if it that were done, how do you position the gear with its new holes to accurately line up with the existing holes when the gear is pressed onto the shaft? With the tightness that the gear pressed onto the shaft, the gear could not be rotated after it is pressed on so the hole alignments would have to be dead nuts, especially the dowel holes, or the dowel pins would not fit through. So overall, the way Keith did it is a much simpler, much less time consuming way for a job where the end result is not a NASA spacecraft type job. Retired machinist in Land Down Under.
@jacilynns6330
Жыл бұрын
@@bobhudson6659 I would have used original gear and transfer punches. As for fitting, heat gear freeze shaft. Drops right on and can rotate. Been there done that. Since he oversized pins anyways would not have been an issue. Too many holes in cast iron makes it weak.
@daleburrell6273 Жыл бұрын
30:57...HECK- you didn't make a MISTAKE: you were MISINFORMED!!!
@RB-yq7qv Жыл бұрын
😀😀😀😀😀😀
@ianmurray2637 Жыл бұрын
Machining like this is not my forte and I can recognise that the path taken is steered by what's available. But the bloke on this channel regularly uses weld wire to build up worn or broken areas on the original part for subsequent machining back to size. www.youtube.com/@CuttingEdgeEngineering Nothing negative intended, just musing at idea of adding weld wire to the broken teeth on the original and reduced time etc.
@bobhudson6659
Жыл бұрын
I have not seen Kurtis build up gear teeth on his videos, only many internal bores and some external shafts (and then machining everything to original sizings). Keith also discussed the option of building up teeth using bronze welding at the beginning of this video but with the overall number of damaged teeth, he said best way out is remaking. This Keith (Rucker) and also Keith Fenner have several videos where they indeed braze on material and recut the teeth, but that is maybe for lesser number of teeth replacements or where the total gear replacement is not warranted, meaning not cost effective. Retired machinist in Land Down Under.
@williamharris1302 Жыл бұрын
It's not the mistake that maters, but how you cover your as$.
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Long ago my grandfather explained to me that it is not that a master worker does not make mistakes, it is that they know what to do about them. Nice save by the master.
I like how you admitted to the mistake on the drill bit size and explained what you do to fix it. Thanks.
@jackgreen412
Жыл бұрын
Just shows Keith is human.
@SweetTooth8989
Жыл бұрын
For sure. I really doubt just by watching the video anybody would have picked up on the wrong drill hole anyway but of course there's no point in pretending that no mistake was made since we all make them.
Good project. Your weight loss journey is looking good.
Keith it appears you have dropped a fair bit of weight. Hope you are feeling better. As always a great episode. Cheers from 🇨🇦
Great recover from a mistake that we all occasionally make. Good to see how to overcome the problems.
I had a feeling the operation you had was something to do with weight loss. your looking great Keith!
You are looking good Keith. Im happy for you!
Very nice Keith. Good start on the gear blank. Thanks for sharing.
thank you Keith, this is going to be a great series.
Hello Keith, I always marvel at the sheer range of tooling in your shop be it drills reamers,boring bars milling cutters etc and the cost of just the cutting tools must be enormous. Love watching steel stock becoming gears. Thanks
good save on the dowel holes. i have used a drill checker for years after my similar experiences.
Hello Keith always a stand up guy I love watching your channel
I really enjoy watching machinery repair and rebuild. Keep that old iron alive.👍
I know this is older but I like watching your videos. So impressive
This is a fun project. Fairly simple compared to the massive machine overhauls. Gear making is always so saticfying. Looking forward to more of this one.
You are looking good.
Good morning, Keith. More gears to work on always fun.
Hello sir. Evidently things are changing. I hope very much you're in good health. Thank you for your time and effort in sharing your knowledge.
Good Morning Georgia!😊
The way that gear pressed fit out so easy at the start, enjoy them breezes when they come everyone, you'll soon be into a project that is testing your metal.
That indexing chuck is a pretty nifty tool to have VS starting in one hole and changing bits, reamers, counterbores... then moving to the next position to do it all over again.
Great video. Thanks. You're looking great! And I pray you're feeling well.
@Keith Rucker, I'd suggest case hardening the teeth of the gears, then setting them up in a cobbled together jig so that they can turn against each other and grease them up with lapping compound and let them polish each other.
@Rorschach1024
Жыл бұрын
If you don't have any "casenit", another method is to grind up some charcoal, take some stainless steel foil and put the gear in a foil envelope and fill and pack charcoal dust around it and put it in your heat treating oven for a few hours. If you have the inert gas atmosphere attachment, then you can just put the gear in a steel or ceramic pie pan and cover the gear with charcoal dust and dispense with the stainless foil.
Rather than throwing the drill bit away, consider grinding back the softened part of the bit to fresh metal and reshape/sharpen. I have done this many times after someone has damaged the flutes by wallowing with a hand drill or burnt out the tip of the flutes by drilling with dull/damaged bit.
I saw you over on Clark Easterling's channel, helping him with his shop. Very cool got others to jump in and help with the walls also. Thanks for the machining video. ........Keith
Very nice. Very well done.👍👍
There is a saying The man who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Takes a big man to admit to making a mistake. You have always been a stand-up guy, so I didn't expect anything less of you. Great job once again. Your shirts are looking a little big there, bud. The weight loss does look good. Can't wait for the next video. Haven't seen the cats in a while, but the puppy looks cute.
The takeaway here is always verify you tool sizes before going to final dimension. Why wait for the counterbore, jut use an endmill.
Nice one Keith looking good
I have often used an end mill to produce the counter bore for a cap screw When drilling use the surface speed calculation for best results Keep up the good work JIM ❤
I admire your skills.
Still the most honest, genuine guy on the YT! Hey Mr. Keith, I apologize for pointing this out, but looks like you’re losing weight, I hope that’s the plan. I know we can all trim down as we get older, at least I do.😂 thanks for your great channel and content!
Thanks Keith for the video. I alway like these projects.
Looking good Keith, you lost a lot of weight! Good content!
Good morning. Another great project.
Nice project, thanks for all of the detailed explanation. As an aside - helping a coworker the other day, mounting and industrial strength can opener in the kitchen - so we used olive oil as the lubricant / coolant for the job, worked a treat. Only thing that I goofed up on was not changing the battery on the drill motor. Got a little slow. Finished up really quick after the new battery was put in.🤣
Great video, I always enjoy watching you work. Take care.
Good reminder for myself to double check that drill size .
The weight loss looks great. Thanks for sharing.
Good one Keith, enjoyed. Been there with drill bit size error, now I keep a drill gauge next to the cabinet...funny how they jump into the wrong slots. ATB...
Nice work Keith, thanks for sharing.
KEITH, LOOKING GOOD AND GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU WHEN...
This is then stuff we love!
oops happens, thanks for the reminder. I have gotten into the habit of hitting critical drills with the dial caliper before committing. Mainly because I cant see the etching on the bit with my near vision without using a magnifying glass.
@richardjones-sl2zd
Жыл бұрын
Which is what Abom said he does in one of his videos, once the inevitable happened. I hope the comments section on here doesn't degenerate into the Abomesque everyone makes mistakes, happens to the best of us, only proves he's human nonsense; I mean, who the f**k cares.
Algorithm BOOSTER! Great job Keith!
Hiya Keith
Always a great video very informative thank you for sharing
Thank you for sharing. Very much enjoyed.👍
good work keith!
There are no mistakes tell you can't fix it , just change of plans
The dog will NOT be walking away with the provided food bowl
@13:47 "That drill bit may have gotten hoy in the past and lost its temper." I hate it when my drill bits (or lathe bits for that matter) get mad at me.
@15:04 as you are applying pressure to the drill bit, that tailstock is creeping backwards quite a bit... by 15:08 its moved over an inch.
Thanks.👍👍👍
What happened to the Stoker Engine?
Did you ever finish the Derista drill press?
I suppose, if you don't have a sized broach, a one tooth tool can be created to be used on a scraper instead. Ron W4BIN
nice video
How do you determine the proper type of steel, heat treating, etc. in the original gear?
nice.
Couldn’t you retemper that drill bit. I would be interested in that video.
Some one is shrinking... you look great man.
Hey we all make mistakes now and then. The real test is to fix it so nobody knows! I had a good friend that always had a 0-1 micrometer in his pocket no matter where he went.
Keith, I just finished watching the videos on the New Haven Metal planer. It came out extrodinary, great job. I had asked you when you first got it if you would be interesed in planing my tables for my American 8" jointer, you said you would need some practice first. I was wondering if you feel up to it? I am going to be pulling it apart and having Shelix custom make a sprial cutting head for it that will take 4 to 6 months to make. Let me know. thanks.
👍
I'm geared up.... 🙂
Camelback
Keith, what type of steel are you using? Stress Proof 1144? or other
Boy that was a pretty cut on the bandsaw. kinda heartbreaking to machine it down
Is that just mild steel?
30:50...that can happen to ANYONE-(!)
What brand of super spacer is that?
I do t understand why kieth didn’t use original holes. They should have been in near perfect shape having never been removed before.
@bobhudson6659
Жыл бұрын
That's fine if you find a way to accurately work out where each hole is, remembering that the holes are blind meaning you can't just drill from the other side of the shaft to come though the new front gear. I suppose it is possible to figure out exactly where each hole is positioned but the time and effort to do that for the benefit gained would not be warranted, especially if the holes were not originally accurately positioned using a super spacer or the like - each hole would have to be plotted accurately on the DRO in X and Y position. Even if it that were done, how do you position the gear with its new holes to accurately line up with the existing holes when the gear is pressed onto the shaft? With the tightness that the gear pressed onto the shaft, the gear could not be rotated after it is pressed on so the hole alignments would have to be dead nuts, especially the dowel holes, or the dowel pins would not fit through. So overall, the way Keith did it is a much simpler, much less time consuming way for a job where the end result is not a NASA spacecraft type job. Retired machinist in Land Down Under.
@jacilynns6330
Жыл бұрын
@@bobhudson6659 I would have used original gear and transfer punches. As for fitting, heat gear freeze shaft. Drops right on and can rotate. Been there done that. Since he oversized pins anyways would not have been an issue. Too many holes in cast iron makes it weak.
30:57...HECK- you didn't make a MISTAKE: you were MISINFORMED!!!
😀😀😀😀😀😀
Machining like this is not my forte and I can recognise that the path taken is steered by what's available. But the bloke on this channel regularly uses weld wire to build up worn or broken areas on the original part for subsequent machining back to size. www.youtube.com/@CuttingEdgeEngineering Nothing negative intended, just musing at idea of adding weld wire to the broken teeth on the original and reduced time etc.
@bobhudson6659
Жыл бұрын
I have not seen Kurtis build up gear teeth on his videos, only many internal bores and some external shafts (and then machining everything to original sizings). Keith also discussed the option of building up teeth using bronze welding at the beginning of this video but with the overall number of damaged teeth, he said best way out is remaking. This Keith (Rucker) and also Keith Fenner have several videos where they indeed braze on material and recut the teeth, but that is maybe for lesser number of teeth replacements or where the total gear replacement is not warranted, meaning not cost effective. Retired machinist in Land Down Under.
It's not the mistake that maters, but how you cover your as$.