The West Bank was occupied by Jordan in 1948. The Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt in 1948. Why should Israel give these areas back to the occupiers? That doesn't make any sense. Can someone answer that for me? The British mandate no longer existed since 1948. And there was only one state that emerged on the territory of Palestine. According to the principle uti possidetis juris, shouldn't both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip not be attributed to Israel?

@eitanaltman158

6 ай бұрын

Territory cannot be acquired by war unless it’s Arabs taking the land from Jews obviously

@nikoletapapadopoulou5007

6 ай бұрын

In my opinion no. Because in the West Bank and Gaza there is an ethic group that called themselves Palestinians. They are connected with this land thousands of years and they want to establish a state for their own, like Israel wanted and they did. Why Israel people have the right and Palestinian don't have this right? Every state have the right to exist. Also Israel doesn't have any right to take these because they don't have any continuing historical connection with the land ( they are absent more from a century) and they don't have a lot of people inside to these territories ( Iam speaking before the illegal settlers) to proclaim the land. I am Greek I don't if you now about Greek history but we had a big empire. It's like me telling the world that I want all today Turkey, Egypt and other countries, because it was mine.

@shainazion4073

6 ай бұрын

The West Bank and Gaza are both legally part of Israel. From the moment Israel became a state on May 14, 1948, under the International Law of Uti Possidetis Juris, Israel took the borders of the Mandate of Palestine which included Gaza and the West Bank. Israel offered Gaza to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan in their Peace Treaty agreements. Both Egypt and Jordan said no. The land of Gaza and the West Bank belong to Israel, Israel has treated this land as Disputed Territories.

Always forgetting about the 3 no’s

I found this video to be very helpful for my extended essay, and it's refreshing to see some info without an heavy Israeli bias, thank you!

@kleeblattsamuel

Жыл бұрын

it is very much biased!

thank you !

Acquisition of land impermissible by war... Ok, so then what about the 1948 invasion by fledgling Israel's Muslim neighbours, which led to Jordanian occupation of what is now referred to as the West Bank, and Egyptian occupation of what is referred to as Gaza? They were acquired through an aggressive military joint operation by neighbouring states, where they planned and went through with a military invasion of areas promised to Israel. So, by your definition of legal or illegal acquisition...why are they not addressed in the UN? Also,...does this not refer to offensive wars? Or else, if one country invades another...and then the country attacked strikes back...is the latter to be considered in breach of 242...or the former?

@deficrypto1234

4 жыл бұрын

Good point but not relevant. Jordan doesnt occupy the West Bank and Egypt Gaza. On the other hand, Israel still occupies Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, Gaza and South Lebanon.

@mdnafeulferdousshopnil387

4 жыл бұрын

@@deficrypto1234 One major factor missing from 242 is that the words “Palestinians” or “Palestine” are not mentioned at all.

@lindamellingen5977

4 жыл бұрын

It is highly relevant, Adegbenga Ogungbeje. As the Mandate to Palestine was militarily invaded by Egypt and Jordan (and other Muslim neighbours accompanying them) when this Mandate was to declare its independence, just like every other country in a.o. the former Ottoman Empire did, as seen in the Treaties signed through the work of The League of Nations and the Mandate Agreements. This has however been totally silenced, and it is high time the silence be broken, and the many lies disproven by historical facts. Every post WW1 border in the ME owes itself to the Mandate Agreements, and NO other state there has been asked to give of their lands to their own minority groups, and there are many. So, please show me how, by actual international treaties, Israel has done anything wrong? And from where in the history of International legislation and action we learn this?

@lindamellingen5977

4 жыл бұрын

Eyad Maas

@lindamellingen5977

4 жыл бұрын

@Eyad Mas Hi. Israel was decided as the name of the new Jewish state to claim independence, and was given a second chance through the Was of Independence, fought when the fledgling Jewish state was attacked by its neighbours when the British left. Prior to the War of independence, there was no statehood called Palestine, but an area referred to as such, by the Jewish population living there. The legal ownership at the time of the attack of this particular Mandate Area was British, since the fall of the Ottoman Empire on the German side in WW1. Prior to WW1 is still was not a state called Palestine, it was just a little part of a huge Empire called the Ottoman Empire. The Mandate of Palestine was just one of many Mandate areas following the break up of both some of the old European and the Turkish empires, which then were portioned into many new states, in time, throughout amongst other, but not at all limited to, the modern Middle East. Every border now existing in the modern Middle East owe their borders to the League of Nation, and the Mandate Agreements.

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Janux or whoever is presenting this video is one sided. He does not mention a word about the reason and the moment in which the said territories were occupied . You should watch old videos of the Arab TV and Radio stations with the rallies of bloodthirsty MOM shouting Ytbach el Yahud and many other horrible slogans. He uses the palestinians as it suits him but make several basic mistakes which uninvlved people cannot distinguish or detect. He also fails to mention that in several occasions, his Falestinians (I write this with an "F" because these people can not pronounce a "P" but pretend to be such) had the possibnility to conclude a peace agreement but they always insisted to get GAZA, Yehudah and Shomron and still get a blank Cheque as to the "right of return" . meaning that any palestinian can come to live in Israel etc...

@deficrypto1234

Жыл бұрын

Gaza is the rightful territory of the Palestenians

@shainazion4073

6 ай бұрын

​@@deficrypto1234 Gaza has NEVER been Palestinian land, show what International law makes Gaza Palestinian land? The Palestinians never owned, nor governed any lands in Gaza. Again, show under what rule of law are a people that never owned or governed the land the owners of the land. And Resolution 181, is a non-binding Resolutions by the General Assembly. It was a suggestion only that the Arabs turned down.

@deficrypto1234

6 ай бұрын

@@shainazion4073 U dont need to govern a land to own it. I own land in many countries but I dont govern any of those countries. By 48, the European Zionist Settler Jews had only purchased 11% of the land. If Resolution 181 was non binding, then u would agree that Tel Aviv is disputed territory. Correct?