Part II of II covering where receptacle outlets are required in resdiential. This part focuses on kitchens, dining rooms, and similar.
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@stevestewart381613 күн бұрын
Great videos Ryan. You explain it well and have a sense of humor lol I subscribed
@brandonquig056 ай бұрын
An application of a switched receptacle in a kitchen would be for under and above cabinet lighting. A cord and plug driver plugs into the receptacle, (Usually in an accessible place other than the countertop where the low voltage lighting cables are ran to.) I really appreciate your videos!
@donstrickland15246 ай бұрын
Great info Ryan, you break down the code better than anyone out there 👍🏻
@georgebradshaw46286 ай бұрын
Ryan ,great teaching. Keep up the great work 👍
@Electrician_kenz6 ай бұрын
Great detail, I love watching your videos it makes me a better electrician thank you..👍
@chrismeehan89966 ай бұрын
Love your explanations Ryan . Thank you for these videos .
@JAG7776 ай бұрын
Hey Ryan, I took all your NEC courses on Red Vector for CEUs. Absolutely fantastic. Great work.
@thetruth45194 ай бұрын
Hi Ryan, at 16:04 in your video talking about measuring that inside corner and if it needs to be within 2' either way. If you have Mike Holt's Book Understanding the National Electrical Code Volume 1 2023 version they have one of their drawings which is figure 210-108 page 141 they show you do not have to have a receptacle 2' from each corner. I wish I could post a pic. Thankyou for all these videos. Makes my life so mush easier!!!
@RyanJacksonElectrical
4 ай бұрын
I wrote Mike's changes book for a dozen years, I'm familiar with the book. 😉
@dane51676 ай бұрын
hey Ryan! for 210.52(b)(1) what i think they were getting at, is all the time we put transformers plugged into a switched outlet in the cabnets for under counter led lights. so it actually kinda makes sense to say it is allowed on a 15 lighting circuit
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
Great example! Thanks for that.
@Belleelectrical5 ай бұрын
Bro this is great stuff.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@m-bigzadaproductiontm72626 ай бұрын
Great information thanks for the update
@pcatful6 ай бұрын
I have made plans for this stuff for yeas, but the conversation is always helpful, there area so many situations that arise that need judgement.
@manuellastrollo21686 ай бұрын
good morning sir! hope you discuss commercial loads like this. thanks
@Sparky-ww5re6 ай бұрын
4:08. 😂😂 I hear you on the coffee pot dilemma. I cannot start my day's work without my fresh hot cup of java in the morning, I might even pose a danger to myself and/or others without that shot of caffeine.
@GarySmith6 ай бұрын
Ryan - you mentioned the microwave receptacle about 6:40 into the video. Shouldn't the receptacle be a "simplex" and not a duplex receptacle for that plug-fed device? Comment on that specific requirement, please...Where are simplex required - - at the toilet when supplying power for a bidet? - - - Do you have a video or other media that addresses the requirement for a simplex receptacle in dwelling units?
@squaresofpaper6 ай бұрын
I wish you had gone into more detail about the multioutlet assembly! I’ve seen a lot of controversy about if setups like what’s shown at 12:26 count towards the countertop receptacle outlet requirements. Seems like you didn’t find an issue with them counting in the video, but I’m curious about your specific thoughts on the topic.
@jefffielder24296 ай бұрын
Thank you
@martinkukovica23594 ай бұрын
Hello Ryan. So… my question is that you stated that it is required to have the small appliance branch circuits also feed the kitchen and dining room wall outlets 210.52(B)(3) “but” the code states “may also” that doesn’t indicate that it is required to be. Not trying to split hairs but it doesn’t make sense to me that it is required? It also doesn’t make sense to me why you would want the kitchen and dining room wall outlets on a small appliance branch circuit with kitchen appliances that draw a large load
@86aoshi3 ай бұрын
So for an island or peninsula installing an outlet in the cabinet directly below would be illegal and no outlet at all would be code compliant. If you wanted to install any outlet it would have to be the hubbell type directly in the counter?
@kinvotime4905 ай бұрын
@ 24min mark, correct me if I am wrong, but that is NOT a required outlet. It falls under island or peninsula correct? In which case it is not even required, and can't be installed incorrectly for the counter top and can't be a violation?
@saltyroe31796 ай бұрын
Gee wiz, 21st century? My 1929 house is closer to 19th century. It has a real butler's pantry which is a room between the kitchen and dinning room with counter top and storage for serving wear and dinner wear. Food cooked in the kitchen by the cook is brought to the butler's pantry to be plated or put on serving dishes. Mine has a sink for washing the dinner wear and serving wear.
@SmokiesDen6 ай бұрын
23:21 what prevents that from being a peninsula?
@Bob.W.6 ай бұрын
Our coffee pot has its own emergency receptacle not connected to house power. That circuit comes from an inverter and battery bank.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
^Smart person^
@timothyrients16856 ай бұрын
What if the microwave oven is a countertop appliance, as opposed to an installed appliance? Can it be plugged into the 20 amp small appliance ckt?
@sbelknap83
5 ай бұрын
Yes, it does not need a dedicated ckt.
@TheOGize6 ай бұрын
YOUR THE MAN 🫵🏻
@tempesttube6 ай бұрын
At 24:43, it says that _required_ receptacles for countertops cannot be installed below the countertop. That is not a required receptacle.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I explain that that in my video that covers that change.
@saidajanane21462 ай бұрын
I. Any thank u enough
@saidajanane2146
2 ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough
@ChadwickFerguson4 күн бұрын
that peninsula graphic you show is bad because the backsplash is wall space since there is no limits on heights, even the shortest of walls should be considered
@RyanJacksonElectrical
3 күн бұрын
It is a peninsula, so there is no wall space requirement.
@ChadwickFerguson
3 күн бұрын
So you're saying that as long as the backsplash doesn't connect to the ceiling? Like if there's a 1-in Gap at the top of the ceiling, that's never going to be counted as a wall ever again That's cool thanks for clarifying
@nhzxboi6 ай бұрын
IMO, The word "Dining" should be universal...no reference to particular time-of-day meal. I.e. the term "breakfast" in the code seems sort of ridiculous.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
I see your point, but I think that is just the architectural term used. I really do see your point though.
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Great videos Ryan. You explain it well and have a sense of humor lol I subscribed
An application of a switched receptacle in a kitchen would be for under and above cabinet lighting. A cord and plug driver plugs into the receptacle, (Usually in an accessible place other than the countertop where the low voltage lighting cables are ran to.) I really appreciate your videos!
Great info Ryan, you break down the code better than anyone out there 👍🏻
Ryan ,great teaching. Keep up the great work 👍
Great detail, I love watching your videos it makes me a better electrician thank you..👍
Love your explanations Ryan . Thank you for these videos .
Hey Ryan, I took all your NEC courses on Red Vector for CEUs. Absolutely fantastic. Great work.
Hi Ryan, at 16:04 in your video talking about measuring that inside corner and if it needs to be within 2' either way. If you have Mike Holt's Book Understanding the National Electrical Code Volume 1 2023 version they have one of their drawings which is figure 210-108 page 141 they show you do not have to have a receptacle 2' from each corner. I wish I could post a pic. Thankyou for all these videos. Makes my life so mush easier!!!
@RyanJacksonElectrical
4 ай бұрын
I wrote Mike's changes book for a dozen years, I'm familiar with the book. 😉
hey Ryan! for 210.52(b)(1) what i think they were getting at, is all the time we put transformers plugged into a switched outlet in the cabnets for under counter led lights. so it actually kinda makes sense to say it is allowed on a 15 lighting circuit
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
Great example! Thanks for that.
Bro this is great stuff.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Great information thanks for the update
I have made plans for this stuff for yeas, but the conversation is always helpful, there area so many situations that arise that need judgement.
good morning sir! hope you discuss commercial loads like this. thanks
4:08. 😂😂 I hear you on the coffee pot dilemma. I cannot start my day's work without my fresh hot cup of java in the morning, I might even pose a danger to myself and/or others without that shot of caffeine.
Ryan - you mentioned the microwave receptacle about 6:40 into the video. Shouldn't the receptacle be a "simplex" and not a duplex receptacle for that plug-fed device? Comment on that specific requirement, please...Where are simplex required - - at the toilet when supplying power for a bidet? - - - Do you have a video or other media that addresses the requirement for a simplex receptacle in dwelling units?
I wish you had gone into more detail about the multioutlet assembly! I’ve seen a lot of controversy about if setups like what’s shown at 12:26 count towards the countertop receptacle outlet requirements. Seems like you didn’t find an issue with them counting in the video, but I’m curious about your specific thoughts on the topic.
Thank you
Hello Ryan. So… my question is that you stated that it is required to have the small appliance branch circuits also feed the kitchen and dining room wall outlets 210.52(B)(3) “but” the code states “may also” that doesn’t indicate that it is required to be. Not trying to split hairs but it doesn’t make sense to me that it is required? It also doesn’t make sense to me why you would want the kitchen and dining room wall outlets on a small appliance branch circuit with kitchen appliances that draw a large load
So for an island or peninsula installing an outlet in the cabinet directly below would be illegal and no outlet at all would be code compliant. If you wanted to install any outlet it would have to be the hubbell type directly in the counter?
@ 24min mark, correct me if I am wrong, but that is NOT a required outlet. It falls under island or peninsula correct? In which case it is not even required, and can't be installed incorrectly for the counter top and can't be a violation?
Gee wiz, 21st century? My 1929 house is closer to 19th century. It has a real butler's pantry which is a room between the kitchen and dinning room with counter top and storage for serving wear and dinner wear. Food cooked in the kitchen by the cook is brought to the butler's pantry to be plated or put on serving dishes. Mine has a sink for washing the dinner wear and serving wear.
23:21 what prevents that from being a peninsula?
Our coffee pot has its own emergency receptacle not connected to house power. That circuit comes from an inverter and battery bank.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
^Smart person^
What if the microwave oven is a countertop appliance, as opposed to an installed appliance? Can it be plugged into the 20 amp small appliance ckt?
@sbelknap83
5 ай бұрын
Yes, it does not need a dedicated ckt.
YOUR THE MAN 🫵🏻
At 24:43, it says that _required_ receptacles for countertops cannot be installed below the countertop. That is not a required receptacle.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
Yes, I explain that that in my video that covers that change.
I. Any thank u enough
@saidajanane2146
2 ай бұрын
I can’t thank you enough
that peninsula graphic you show is bad because the backsplash is wall space since there is no limits on heights, even the shortest of walls should be considered
@RyanJacksonElectrical
3 күн бұрын
It is a peninsula, so there is no wall space requirement.
@ChadwickFerguson
3 күн бұрын
So you're saying that as long as the backsplash doesn't connect to the ceiling? Like if there's a 1-in Gap at the top of the ceiling, that's never going to be counted as a wall ever again That's cool thanks for clarifying
IMO, The word "Dining" should be universal...no reference to particular time-of-day meal. I.e. the term "breakfast" in the code seems sort of ridiculous.
@RyanJacksonElectrical
6 ай бұрын
I see your point, but I think that is just the architectural term used. I really do see your point though.