150mph barely hear the engine. Thats how a saloon is supposed to be.

@the-boring-car-guy

4 жыл бұрын

A luxury saloon*

@mattysea7163

3 жыл бұрын

Deutsche Tech can make the diesel scream with a custom exhaust if you need some noise too.

if its fast enough for chris, it's fast enough for everyone else

@ChrisSaddlerSam

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

@matthewcoupeofficial

Жыл бұрын

On that analogy, if he said an Veyron was slow everyone would feel that way?

It's so refreshing to watch an objective, intelligent review. Icons like Jeremy Clarkson and Tiff Needell tend to drown in their own bias, before they even attempt to look at a car fairly and objectively.

Big diesels are quick. The A5 3.0tdi Quattro sport is one of the fastest cars I've driven in the real world. 0-60 5.9 seconds and feels like it could sail past 155 without the limiter. It's spookily quite to and returns 40mpg easily.

@mbrofc

3 жыл бұрын

BMW X5 40 d (it’s a 30d) doing the same time as the Audi with awesome economy. 313hp 630nm torque. Kills the Porsche on performance.

@waifuracer6516

Жыл бұрын

@@mbrofc in stock form. But these 3.0tdis can handle insane amounts of power on stock internals, and just a simple remap will get it to the same power as the bmw. If you upgrade the turbo and some fueling then you are looking at 400hp. All for about 1k which is not much considering you go from 240 to 400hp.

The only "resident evil" is the Jeremy Clarkson-induced bias which seems to enslave and mesmerise the British car lover. I salute you, Chris, for following your own mind and not being intimidated by popular opinion. A reviewer shouldn't be a bleating sheep, merely following the flock. It takes guts to give an honest, objective opinion. And that's why you remain my favourite critic and reviewer of cars- by far!

Chris, yes it is fast enough (at least for me...). I had a 535d for a few years. Now I have a Panamera diesel which feels faster than the the bmw. The torque is incredible. Build quality is excelent. Overall it´s the best car I've ever owned. I had a few fast cars (Z4 35i, E90 M3, jaguar XK, bmw 535d, megane RS etc...). None of them comes even close to the Porsche Panamera. Thank you for your videos. I really enjoy them.

@jameslovett8697

9 жыл бұрын

Alexandre Ramalho I just cry at the fact its a Diesel though. Nice list of cars btw :)

@ramalhoalex

9 жыл бұрын

Next will be a 991... :-)

@jameslovett8697

9 жыл бұрын

Ahhh what do u do for a living if I may ask?

@ramalhoalex

9 жыл бұрын

Medical doctor.

@stubones

8 жыл бұрын

+James Lovett The are various petrol engined versions, so please don't cry :)

I like the Panamera, its not the best looking but its also not ugly, its a great car made for people who love driving

@Pete762

8 жыл бұрын

Will James I thought it was ugly until I saw one on the road!! I liked it a lot since then!

@w-james9277

8 жыл бұрын

***** Same

"Like taking a fat person to the beach, you shouldn't really do it." LOL

@AB-80X

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you just end up with Greenpeace showing up, trying to drag the whales back into the water. It's a right mess.

The funniest thing is, it's usually the americans who claim certain cars are not fast enough, or that diesels are slow or not good enough, because in Europe we definitely don't think that, and sales statistics show that. And the reason it's funny is because they really have no experience to talk about either of those two things. They don't have experience in driving fast (since they have ridiculous speed limits and shittiest traffic culture in the world that makes you wanna shoot 5 people per minute while driving on their clogged up highways), or driving a car with a diesel engine. If diesels are fast enough for european roads, where people on average drive much, much faster than in the US, then they're sure as hell fast enough in the USA where most people slug along at 50 or 60 mph in their automatics while drinking coffe on really crappy highways or freeways with nowhere near the flatness or quality of surface as on the european highways.

@KeiDoesManyThings

10 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately true, though the reason why other Americans think they are slow or not good enough is because of past diesels. Also, diesels are more associated with semi-trucks and, unfortunately, pick-up trucks which both are known to spit out soot when they suddenly accelerate... which isn't pleasant if you're driving behind them or being a pedestrian. I also think that the speed limits are ridiculous... but then you drive with other people and you see why they'd push for slower speeds. Some people frankly can't drive properly. I can link you to a channel that specifically makes videos just by driving daily catching the bad drivers and most videos are longer than 10 minutes. Speed limits are also a way for police revenue, though I still don't get why we don't have our own autobahn with specific rules and a special license just to drive on it. Diesel cars aren't very popular all because of pricing. Buying a diesel car is more expensive than a gas/petrol powered cars and diesel prices is more expensive. They are also more costly to maintain so that's why most people don't buy them. I, though, would like to drive a diesel... if those factors wasn't so great.

@eurokid83

10 жыл бұрын

Ishikawa Masaki I agree diesel fuel is expensive, but if your getting 40+ MPG I would think that would offset at least some of the cost at the pump. Actually where I live diesel fuel is less expensive than premium gasoline by about 15 cents per gallon. Being American myself, and also working as a professional auto repair technician specializing in European automobiles I can firmly say the newer diesels are plenty fast and have very clean tailpipe emissions. For example the new VW TDI's are pretty quick and are as quiet as their gasoline powered models. And they get twice the mileage.

@KeiDoesManyThings

10 жыл бұрын

Chester Wardan Actually, diesel is cheaper than petrol/gasoline here in South Carolina AND Georgia. Maybe I should have gotten a turbo diesel.

@Veyronp87

10 жыл бұрын

LOL you are generalizing a nation of 350 million and an area larger than continental europe. some parts of the US have speed limits around 130 km/h which is higher than some parts of europe.

@MrBodi1

10 жыл бұрын

Veyronp87 agree but some parts of europe have no speed limits at all

Chris, you get to the root of what the car is about and how it may or may not appeal to a real car enthusiast. You cannot be thanked enough for the honest opinions, general hooning, and showing overall fervor for all that you do. Thank you.

I love cars that blend performance with economy, great video!

Awesome video!

I love everything about this car! :)

And yes, sure it's fast enough. 6.5 sec? That's fast enough to push you far back into the seat. It's faster than any hot hatchback for fuck sakes, it's faster than a Golf GTI, Megane RS, Focus ST...and does anyone ever go inside a hot hatchback and says "man, its too slow"? Nope...haven't met one yet, people usually go crazy about how fast they feel. And it being a diesel, full acceleration doesn't show the half of it's performance. Diesels are about in-gear performance from low and mid revs, not 0-60. Take a petrol engine with 6.5 to 60, and this diesel will feel and will be MUCH faster in gear, during overtaking, accelerating at high speeds, accelerating onto the highway, etc...pretty much real world stuff. And the low pitched noise that it makes adds to the sensation of acceleration, because you simply aren't used to be pushed forwards at such pace without the engine screaming at high revs like in petrol cars.

@cameroncoe8827

9 жыл бұрын

Fully agree and I'd add that the in gear power is largely down to the high torque diesel engines make at low revs.

I must import one to British Columbia Canada. I appreciated the drive you took us on. I love an honest and reasoned look at why some who can clearly drive and loves to drive (and you sir my friend in deed can drive) can with out reservation point out why a diesel in this car makes so much sense. You showed that the 1/4 mile is amazing for what we in Canada call a 4 door sedan, and that it can get uo to speed, and most of off all and typical of diesel engines is the low end available torque. It might not be fist out of the gate but it will leave many V6 and V8's behind when chugging up a mountain side at only 2500 rpm. I drive from Vancouver to several places on the coastal Islands, and back east on the other side of the Rockies. This car was made to be driven in the Coastal Mountains, and up down and through the thousands of miles in the Canadian Rockies and down the highways on prairies under an endless blue sky from dawn till dusk, and well past twilight and a canopy of stars above. I drive a VW Passat Diesel, it and the Audi A6 / Allroad / Estate / Variant's from where this Panamera's engine was "poached" from are excellent for cruising and long hual trips where it sips on diesel slowly like the queen does her tea. Why not put it in an executive cruiser with huge cargo room and torque / power where it matters to climb a half dozen mountain ranges before you need to pull over and sleep. If you are a Brit or Continental and you think it is solid and more than capable saloon for your narrow highways imagine being Canadian where in a good day you can drive 12 hours in any direction on mountain highways. To put it in perspective it would be like driving 12 hours in any direction on mountain passes in the Swiss Alps, but much of it far more challenging to drive than the Alps and petrol station are few and far between. A rock solid power plant with enough cargo and seating space to carry skies, fishing, hiking / camping gear, your dog and friends / family and it can get 40mpg... I would have no problem hooking up a trailer to this Panamera, or using it like it should be as a practical albeit exotic estate car / wagon. Add a roof rack and travel in style, winter, spring, summer, or fall. To sit that low, and blended with cabin and "cockpit" refinements, firm handling, and have the freight train like diesel torque and economy... Magnificent!

Chris, another excellent video! I love how you own a hypercar and you drive the best sports cars in the world on a regular basis and yet you're able to keep an open and objective opinion on the subject.

He loves to press the button on the gear stick~~ : )

I still don't get why buying an expensive Porsche and choose the diesel version to "save money". When it comes to these kind of car, the depreciation is way more important than the fuel cost anyway...

@atos.nympha3451

8 жыл бұрын

It matter of choice

@atos.nympha3451

8 жыл бұрын

It matter of choice

@TGShunai

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicky Larson Maybe it's not to save money, but if you spend let's say, 3k miles a month in it, you might want to have to fill it up less times a week/month?

@zibi1988pl

8 жыл бұрын

+Nicky Larson There are some of us that love Turbo diesels great option to have here with a Porsche.

@atos.nympha3451

8 жыл бұрын

+zibi1988pl well said!

the best car guy ever. I have learn so much with your videos. thank you Chris

Great review Chris, I think what came through here is that Porsche can breathe life into any engine (whatever it's underlying characteristics) and that the Panamera has great dynamics (chassis + electronics).

Modern diesels are amazing

Not fast enough for a Porsche? It will crush a Cayenne V6, probably would give the Panamera V6 a run too.

Nice review Chris, as always

Love your work Chris! I too believe in 'livability' of the cars I drive and, 'live with'. Diesels do make surprisingly good cars to live with. I currently drive 330d M sport and its bags of fun on the track and does my back very well on my long cruises to work and back. Wife drives an A5 sportback 3.0TDI with a few tuning tweaks and it flies but ride is HARSH!!!. I was never keen on the Panamera diesel nor the now newly released Cayenne S diesel but you've convinced me. :-)

Porsche should have the new Diesel S engine in the Panamera, 385 bhp, 850 nm.

I have a bit of a soft spot for the Panamera - I thought it was ugly too until I saw one in person. Having said that, I'm not interested in an oil burning version - 0-100 in well over 6 seconds and standing 1/4 in around 15 seconds really is too slow for something so expensive that you can't really do much to improve. I'm too used to having something vastly faster. So yeah, for me personally, Chris is wrong.

@bighands69

9 жыл бұрын

There are people out there that could be buying a similar type of diesel for the same money as the Panamera and they would be happy with the speed. If you are not happy with the speed then you would go for the likes of a Cayman or 911 but depending on your budget. Me and my wife want a new family car and we are considering the Panamera Diesel. My sports car is a RS5 and we have a Toyota for a family car already that we are going to keep. There are many people out there like me who want a nice family sports car and there are many options and Porsche is one of those option which it was not 10 years ago.

@Beer_Dad1975

9 жыл бұрын

bighands69 Absolutely, everyone has different requirements - I don't doubt that you'd get a lot of enjoyment out of one if you do buy it, it's just not for me . Not that I could afford one anyway, we only have space and budget for 2 cars, so my wife has the super practical Toyota SUV (which she loves anyway) and I have an Aussie Ford Falcon Turbo - which isn't too impractical other than the bad economy, but given the power it has it's not even too hard on fuel.

@eternalblue2119

9 жыл бұрын

Well he got given the car to use for a few months. Would you want to give that up when a new car come out?

@bighands69

9 жыл бұрын

Matthew Sharpe For 99% of families the diesel Panamera is fast enough and for those that want faster they could easily buy a 40k Porsche Cayman if they looked. The cars you have are not a bad choice. You could probably do better performance wise than the Falcon but then again it is about personal choice and you may love the Falcon.

@Stryke607

7 жыл бұрын

where are you driving it that this is too slow for you?

Thanks Chris, you really know how to communicate your points well.

Yes, already saw it on app store. I was looking for one and then I saw Chris using that.

Am i the only one who thinks the Panamera is beautiful?

@AB-80X

9 жыл бұрын

No.

@Ghostystuff

9 жыл бұрын

nope

@lukasolsgarden

9 жыл бұрын

Nonono

@MatthijsOkhuizen

9 жыл бұрын

The new model, yes!

@mojondro

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely no,i think is quite cool

I don't wear a helmet on the Autobahn - am I crazy or what? ;)

awesome revieuw Chris !

Another great show by Chris....

Anyone recognize what kind of watch he's wearing?

@jimfastlane28

9 жыл бұрын

Rolex Sub I think.

@MrExzyz

9 жыл бұрын

jimfastlane28 hes got pretty good taste then :)

@myyth146

9 жыл бұрын

Omega seamaster?

@danielkruger3716

6 жыл бұрын

no rolex

@AriGoldFox

5 жыл бұрын

Rolex submariner

Owning, or buying a diesel sports car, or wagon tells people that you indeed have money, probably old money. You didn't scrimp and save your money to buy a yuppie style M3, Porsche 911 ST or even more often, a new Corvette convertible. Which scream out to people "ive got big money and a small penis". No! I have so much money that i could care less what others think of my cars or me. For instance, i was a contractor. I pull in the driveway to give an estimate on a new fireplace, when i see a Mercedes e55 amg wagon and a Audi rs parked there. My estimate doubled from then on.

@Stryke607

7 жыл бұрын

So many questions ... What is a "911 ST" ? And "you could care less" ? Means you actually do care? Finally, the last E55 AMG is fairly old by now, are you sure that's a sign of money? I think it is rather a sign of the lack of it ...

@MrTremaine182

7 жыл бұрын

Also, he charges wealthier people double, which means he is a dishonest, jealous piece of shit who I would never want to work with.

I crack up upon noticing that Milbrook is where Fifth Gear drove the Panamera Diesel on Team Test and HATED it. At 10:50--when Chris notes that he 'loves the way it steers', I think back to when Tiff trashed the car's chassis due to its porky diesel engine. Perhaps it's a matter of perspective--I'm not sure what Chris was driving before this, or what Tiff was slinging around before he hopped into the Panamera--but I just think it's funny. Nothing wrong with different opinions however.

Another amazing video from Chris Harris. He is definitely one of the best in the biz. As to whether or not it's fast enough. It is, for what it is. For a big ass turbo diesel estate it's definitely fast enough. I think the problem people have with it is that when they think of Porsche, they dont think of diesel. The loads of torque plus the mpg are good for this car. If they put this engine in say a 911, then I would call it heinous, but for the Panamera it's a great idea

Chris Harris vids are the best youtube vids, bar none. The production values of Top Gear, with the facts of Google, all on youtube for free...

Nice test and nice car Chris.

What an extraordinary machine. Reports coming back from Harris, Metcalfe et al suggest this is a genuinely capable car. Thanks Chris, wonder if Graypaul have a demonstrator!

Great, great, great review!!!

That's how you crucify the tyres, nice job Chris :)

Love Chris Harris car videos

That gt2 rs with a diesel was an excellent intro lol

It's air suspension so it can be both depending what setting you have it on. depending on the options you have selected: pasm, sport chrono, etc. the sport button/sport +, will change the ride height and stiffness accordingly.

"Chris harris on cars" is the best car show on the internet telly. :)

I get the repeated reference to "fast enough". This is the exact feeling I had when my 2001 VW Golf TDI was brand new.

Its beautiful and that 48MPG is awesome

That's just AWESOME! I love it!

Great piece of kit, really.

Yep ! It still makes a sound !

I'd consider myself a car enthusiast and I like how it looks. But I actually think it looks better in real life. It's got so much more presence and character than most of the other cars in its segment. If I was in the market for a Panamera as a daily driver and family car, I'd go for a 2nd hand S or Turbo model, though.

I very much agree with you on the looks of the Panamera. I dont see why anyone dislike its design... Theres several running around in my local area here in Norway and 2 of them are in a lovely black color and look quite stunning going down the road!...

I always loved the look of the Panamera, especially in white:)

Thank you for the video.

Great review Chris ! I´d have no problem living with that car year round in the real world ! (that´s were I live )

Dynolicious? Hadn't heard of that! Thanks Chris!!!

Wicked review, great car Chris should b on top gear hes great with cars !

It kicks down a gear or more depending how many times you press it. If your in manual mode you use the paddles on the steering wheel but in auto you use the button to drop a gear.

Very nice review! Do a F01 review Chris

Panamera's are very popular in the DFW area (Texas), and personally I think they look quite good. Maybe not the diesel part for this particular car, but had I any garage room, a V8 Pana and a mid 2000 M5 are on my list!

amazing!

Chris, what is that speedometer app u got? its awesome! I don't have a car (cus live in London), but I will use that on the bus next time I head to uni lol

Great video as always Chris. I like the car and yes it certainly is fast enough.

great job and a great car!!

Chris, you nailed it.

Awesome!

i like how it has black around the headlights like it's wearing mascara ♡

I love ur reviews.

Thank you for your answer, scuderia11 !

I agree with every point that Chris says!!!!!!I am pretty sure owners could care less what average people think of the porsche panamera they drive and if I had the money I would buy one!!Great review keep up the good work!!

the camera reviewed so good on the firmness about the suspension, it shakes...

Chris is just great!

Can't be a Chris Harris review without a MAD DRIFT.

I am 20 years old and my dad owns the one with fuel engine. I own the new 3 series F30. Still Panamera is way better than mine. It's just something absolutely different. Makes you feel like you are in a suite hotel room :D Makes you feel special....

If I had the money, I'd buy one. Unfortunately I'd have to go to Europe or UK because we didn't get it here in the US. Thanks.

2023 and it still look great!!!

it looks awesome i think and i love its love or hate looks

tell that to my friends. They all drive 1.9/2.0 TDIs. They always tell me how good they are with they high torque and good economy and they always make fun of my little Clio RS 200. You don't wanna know what happened when we went for a drive in the mountains.

Chris, congrats on getting some long trousers!

i have the later 2014 300hp model and it drives really well and on a run up to Whitby it got an incredible 52mpg. i have to agree it handles great and i think looks great and the interior quality is top notch. my main gripe is it has a 40gb juke box but you cannot load cd's straight into it (like my old X3 35d) but you have to put it all on a usb first, very frustrating:-( so i tend to use spotify

@durusveritas

2 жыл бұрын

I have the same car, I just wished the panamera 970 would have gotten the Diesel S engine V8 like the Cayenne had. That would have been brilliant

Great Car, would love to drive one.

Thanks for that.

seen one yesterday. i think i like it.

freakin brilliant review of a freakin brilliant car

Funny, my first thought when Chris was touting how awesome this car is, was to see that V6 diesel in a Cayman or something. "Blasphemy", yeah, probably. But that doesn't make it any less awesome. Diesels can play too, and with a good exhaust they sound pretty fantastic.

I like the comparison you did with the BMW :P

Funny, people say they hate this car from Porsche. The truth is, before the Cayenne and this car, I would never consider buying a porsche because it was not practical enough for me, and if I had money to burn I would buy a Ferrari instead if I just wanted to drive myself and another person! These cars gave Porsche new customers that think like I do... I used to hate Porsches, now I love them!

I believe that it has pleasant, refined and precise handling but i put my car as a benchmark, which is BMW E36 328i and which is quicker making the Panamera diesel an unworthy Porche. I think that it's an excelent benchmark which tells us that Panamera diesel lacks peak power.

... Porsche+Diesel = The Future of all sports cars. I accept that in the next few years we will see a huge drop in power for cars because of environmental regulations but that does not mean the death of sports cars... its the rebirth. I am excited to see what we come up with.

No, the 911 is a 2+2. Which means the rear seats are useless.

Can someone explain to me why the back tail lights flash in a weird way at the race track 6:28 ? I have seen this happens in other videos featuring different Porsches(gt3>2) as well.

fantastic

LED's are pulsed for heat and efficiency, unlike normal lightbulbs which are on all the time. A camera shooting at 25 frames per second sometimes catches the LED's when off.

That's a lovely thing 👍

Yep! It drifts.... They could've made it quicker, but I suppose they wanted more fuel mileage with a little sprinkle of performance. I wonder what a kind of numbers a tune could get out of that engine/car?

On the open highway. For speed and range, nothing beats the oiler!

FINALLY!! i'm not the only one who likes the look of a Panamera!

As a huge fan of diesels, this car makes me all fizzy in the pants. But I have to say, I love the fact that the reviewers seem to be taking a step back from the internet numbers race, and acknowledging that these cars are plenty fast enough, and that we're chasing numbers that are way beyond what they need to be anyway. Plus, 150mph, and 40mpg? C'mon, why the hell not? Throw a straight exhaust on it and just adore that diesel grunt.

I'd like to see the GTS panamera reviewed by Chris, he's such a lad.

Are there tuning pats for this? Manifolds, Big Turbos, exhaust systems, computer programmers, Oversized intercoolers, ect?