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The value that any rider will find in a Rekluse auto-clutch is directly proportional to the percentage of super slow, super technical, gnarly, nasty terrain that they normally ride in. The tougher the terrain, the more valuable the Rekluse is. Also, as you guys get older, you might find that your clutch fingers start to cramp up...

@elkhorn123

Жыл бұрын

I dont agree the more tech the better a cltutch is if you ride enough singlle track in knarly woods or rocks the clutch becomes second nature if you know how to use your clutch

Your point is well taken on the 250’s, 300’s and 350’s. But the 450’s and 500’s can be a handful on single track or in the woods. The way the Rekluse auto clutch absorbs some of the initial hit actually helps to make these big bikes more manageable in the tight stuff. I see it as a benefit.

This old man likes his . The way I can go into a corner with both brakes on, also I have short inseam, and I still can snap the clutch to go over obstacles . But to each his own just happy be on 2 wheels. Thanks for the video

People have strong opinions about the Rekluse auto clutch. I have used and tested them for years on a variety of KTM/ Husqvarna enduro bikes. The short version of my extensive testing is that I prefer the stock clutch on the 2 Stroke models and smaller 4 stroke models. The 450 and 500 pair nicely with the Rekluse. In this application the stalling issue is neatly addressed. Also the 500 makes more torque than the 300 so the amount absorbed in slipping isn’t missed. I can wheelie in any gear. At most any speed. In slippery hard enduro conditions and rocky climbs the autoclutch lets me manage the rear contact patch much easier. In dry high traction coefficient conditions it is unnecessary. The engagement rate can be adjusted with different springs against the wedges in the EXP disc. I have run mine for 2700 miles/160 hours in my 2021 XCF-W and it has been perfect: never once needing adjustment. A further benefit is that it pairs perfectly with a Left Hand Rear Brake, a really useful item in steep hard enduro terrain.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome comment! Someone else mentioned the difference of their behavior between 2 strokes and 4 strokes. It just makes sense and would explain why I didn't have a great experience on my 250! Thanks!

@JohnVanHolt

2 жыл бұрын

The Rekluse worked great on my 530 exc.. made it so much easier to ride in technical sections. However, I removed one from my 300 xc-w. I liked having full engagement of the clutch. The 300 is hard to stall anyway

I have two crf250x bikes equipped with auto clutches. I agree 100 percent with every word you say. I am in my 60s and my hands are pretty banged up. The auto clutch allows me to ride longer. I am also cursed with being a shorter rider. Stalls = Falls. For these reasons a auto clutch will be installed on my new crf250rx.

I found the Rekluse auto clutch really suited my 350 EXC very well. Yes, it eliminated the stalling in the very tight, gnarly stuff - but it also allowed me to more easily run taller gearing required for real dual-sport use. The "delay" that you speak of can be easily overcome, if you really need that hit - by using the clutch lever to spin up the motor a bit - but it is extra effort. I feel that auto-clutches are better suited to the 4-strokes - than the 2-strokes - but there could be circumstances where they suit a big bore 2-stroke well - such as running very tall gearing for extended street use. I doubt that I would never consider one for a small bore 2-stroke unless I were trying to create a training/beginner bike. It took me a long time to get used to the auto-clutch in my 350, and I had to adapt my riding style - but once I did, I don't think that I could ever go back to a manual setup on it. Newer 4-strokes are just so snappy and jerky down at super low RPM, that the auto clutch tames them really well. I have tried an older style "Z-Start" auto clutch on a KTM 300 2-stroke - and I did not like it at all in that application. At very high revs, I could not pull in the clutch lever with that style of auto-clutch.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah lots of people have been talking about them on a 4 stroke. I can see how it would be nice! To me having a Rekluse only made me feel disconnected with the bike (given I ride only a 2 stroke). It helped for my wrist injury, but now that i'm healed, I don't want to go back to the Rekluse

@clintonlied

Жыл бұрын

Many people who buy 450 mx bikes for the woods, because they are cheap on ebay/marketplace/craigslist/backpages later find that their bikes are monsters and not suited for any woods or trail riding; however, once they install a Rekluse Auto Clutch, they find that they like them. Then they install a Fly-wheel weight, and find that they like the bike even more.

Thanks for that honest review

I’m glad you mentioned this. I bought my first woods bike - a 4 stroke BERG 350FE with a recluse. I am going to try a heavy 7 oz flywheel weight instead to avoid stalling so easily and reduce snap. It’s a beast of a bike, I’m looking for a better bike with the low gears of the Beta X trainer with better overall suspension and better high gears

Proper adjustment for what you want will do the job. Its a yes for me

Great video, I found putting a 52 t sprocket on the rear of my 300 lessened the staling

If you change the springs in the EXP disc to lighter ones the clutch will fully engage at lower rpm’s. I changed mine out from the Heavy springs that came standard to medium springs and it fixed all problems associated with not engaging at lower rpm’s

I have had two work site injuries that resulted in issues with my left forearm having pain and weakness. I'm also about to get my left shoulder replaced in November. I currently ride my 200exc with a Scotts Steering Damper. When my shoulder is heeled, I am going to get a Rekluse just to help.

I have one on my 450. I can tell you the grunt that the 450 has overcomes the limitations a recluse has on a 2 stroke. I can blip the throttle from a dead stop without the clutch and put the front tire wherever I want whenever I want. So in my opinion there are no disadvantages on a big bore 4 stoke. I put this bike everywhere the ktm 300 guys go. 09 Husqvarna TXC 450.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense! I wish I put one on my Beta 390 when I had it for sure

@gdmfsob4424

Жыл бұрын

Yep, wr450 here.

If anything it acts to add quality to your riding. At the end of a 40 to 70 mile day of steep and deep you are not as fatigued. Reving, slipping and slamming the the clutch and you can accomplish the things you say the rekluse doesn't provide. To me the benefits FAR outweigh any down side you may encounter. That is just my assessment. Safe riding!

@francisguerrero3240

Жыл бұрын

I AGREE

I have one on my CRF250X, my 350XCF,and my 250SX......freaking love them!! I don't run one on my moto bike (350SXF) but for the woods bikes they're a gamechanger

I forget the combination. But you can have it work more like a standard clutch if you want it set up like that. I believe it's a stronger spring with more weight what do each their own.

100% with you

Rekluse is the bomb! Wouldn’t have another bike without!

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

You're rocking one on a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke?

You can still use the clutch To to blip. Set your rekluse to drag at idle with out stalling and use your clutch as you would normally. I love mine with no clutch and rear hand brake. Yes there is give and take. I started in 03 YZ 450 super tall first. Turned in to a trail beast. Now on a 21 500 xcf-w. My buddy same bike is stock and he does great on it but every so often wines about finger fatigue.

I really would like to try one on my 2001 KTM 200exc (the 2001 was the most violent potent engine ever designed for the 200 line). I have upgraded the bikes suspension with a properly shortened brand new 2019 WP AER48 fork, installed a 2007 PDS 5018 rear shock assembly from a 2007 KTM 250SX-F, and even upgraded the chassis to a 2003 200sx (So, I was able to run 2007 plastics, EE Soft seat etc). Long story short, I like the bike. I know that @PNWEnduro 's daughter uses a Rekluse in her KTM 150, and she does pretty great on PNW/BC goat trail.

Just picked up a rmz450 with rekluse clutch. I like it I’d never spend the money on it, after watching this I’m thinking about taking it off

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely worth trying your bike with the OEM clutch!

I bought a slightly used ktm excf 350 with the rekluse and the left hand brake. I find what you're saying is true about the soft hit

How did you go back to the manual clutch???? Did you just take out the EXP disc and and in the extra plates. I have been wanting to go back to manual bought a used back with an auto.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I just changed the whole system back to OEM as I still had everything (Took out EXP, changed clutch basket, plates, bolts, springs, etc.) All I kept was the Rekluse slave cylinder

2017 300 XCW here. 263 hours, Rekluse Core EXP 3.0 I believe it depends on what kind of riding you are doing. The lag or soft come on of power is free traction control really. If you are doing hard single track, not hard enduro, I feel its perfect. Its like a free flywheel weight. And no violent CHOP CHOP HIT HIT of idle. If i was doing faster motocross style stuff in dry weather then i want that Hit. If that makes sense.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Makes total sense.. so many people are talking about how that lag just isn't there with a big bore 4 stroke

At 63 I still enter several enduro events up here in North Eastern Ontario every riding season. After 40 years of working with my hands as a contractor I need all the help I can get with my two cable clutched Yamaha WR 450’s. With arthritis starting to creep into my finger joints, it makes me wonder if indeed the Rekluse was a (necessity is the mother of invention) design by another old fart like me. On tight single track it is a revelation. I guess if I had a fancy “orange” bike with a hydraulic clutch I might not need a Rekluse but on my WR’s I wouldn’t have it any other way. Cheers!

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. On your bike I would probably feel different about them clutches Take care!

That slipping is what you really need. Study every top hard enduro rider and you will never see them dump the clutch but rather load the clutch and slip it for just a bit, heck look at top fuel nhra dragster in slow motion and you will see the same thing. It's called hook up! And not all bikes shine with a Rekluse. My Te 300 and my riding skills don't need it however my Yamaha yz250x was transformed by the rekluse. Same rider, same skills, different bikes.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mark. I hear what you're saying but the slipping I was experiencing on the Rekluse was too much. To the point where the front wheel stayed planted under 100% throttle. I slip the clutch all the time, but when I want to. As opposed to the Rekluse which is slipping when my intention is not to slip it. It's also my understanding that very few top riders use an auto clutch! Most of them only use the Rekluse cover.

@Mark-mq1cc

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 something wrong with set up or the clutch. Did you call Rekluse? they have been over the top helpful in the past. I did not experience any of what you describe, I hope you get it sorted out!

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mark-mq1cc I have checked everything and tuned it. The clutch was brand new. I have done a lot of research and that subtle slipping is normal apparently. I probably make it sound worse than it actually is because i'm picking it appart, but it wasn't abnormal. Just not ideal for me, for my style of riding. I have asked a lot of people to try out my bike too, and most of them thought it worked well. Very few were bothered by the issue i'm describing but some were! Anyway, the Rekluse is back in her box and just waiting for me to hurt my wrist again. Until then, OEM clutch it will be for me :)

@donpetryna4356

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Star Yamaha factory team uses them, 5 of their six riders use auto clutch in both motocross and supercross. They also won both titles last year. They said they started using them in muddy conditions liked them, tried them in dry and all but one rider now uses full time. I ride enduro now ( getting to old for moto ) and just researching before I pull the trigger on one. Riding a KTM 500 exc now and so far the auto clutch reviews seem good for this bike, If I end up with one I will probably do a review.

@Fuck_Tarentum_Boro

Жыл бұрын

Im considering a rekluse for my yz250x, ride alot of nasty single track. Would you recommend it?

Just curious as I've never been around the Rekluse clutch system. Are you running a heavier flywheel weight by chance?

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I was not.

Couldn't you still use the clutch as normal for getting front tire up? I'm waiting on mine now. CR250 just getting it for the no stall. I have a hard time with clutch.

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

You can. The only thing that bothered me is I don't always want to need to clutch in to loft the front wheel

What spring setup did you use in the exp?

By slipping clutch lever adding throttle the aggressive clutch addition, you can pop the front wheel over a log, just like a regular clutch, its not exactly the same, but once you get used to it it still works. Practice not excuses, the real problem with the auto clutch, is after a few hours of used they tend to change feel during a tuff race. And if you race in real rough stuff they can get hot. Generally speaking for slow woods riding with some real rough sections you can beat 'em. So dont pander, dont be biased, run your track 5 laps on stop watch then put a rekluse in, do some warm up laps then do 5 more laps let the stop watch do the judging. Jmo

does anyone know if its okay to shift up and down without engaging the clutch at all with the lever or should i still use it?

@dtbk9557

4 ай бұрын

I would say under load, using some clutch would be kind to your gears. You really can never clutch to shift, but it's a matter of taking care of your machine in my opinion

Agreed

The 4.0 rekluse cures most of the negative’s you speak of in the video 4 strokes see the biggest benefit in my opinion for a rekluse if I Were a 2 stroke guy I probably wouldn’t bother adding a auto maybe a manual

At the end of a 2 race and you are tired and prone to mistakes they are worth their weight in gold. If you match your exp springs and idle speed correctly you can make it run any way to want. I have been running them since the original z-start i used in 2006. Have bought at least a dozen units from 125 YZ's to 450 KTM's They are the ticket for dead engine start XC races and let you run a gear higher in most situations

I wonder if a Rekluse will keep you from stalling?

Best thing I ever did for my riding skills was get rid of my Rekluse on my Xtrainer. Although I’d like to try one on my YZ250 FX.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I use to ride a Beta 390 RR-S. I wish I tried one on that bike. However on 2 strokes, I feel more connected to the bike with the OEM clutch!

@Pint76

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 Absolutely! My two stroke is now a TE 150 and I love it.

@davidb9323

Жыл бұрын

@@Pint76 why did you switch brands and smaller size 2’ stroke? I’ve been looking hard at going from 4 stroke 350 to a x trainer or the RR for better all around suspension and top end gearing getting to and from trails which I hear the trainer lacks.

@Pint76

Жыл бұрын

@@davidb9323 i kinda got bored with the Xtrainer. I put a Keihin carb and RK head on my 150 and it does everything my Xtrainer did but much lighter. I still have my 150, but recently picked up a 250 Race Edition.

Just my $0.02. Fundamental clutch skills are mandatory EVEN IF you have a Rekluse. You still need to be able to pop the clutch for obstacles. Or slip the clutch to maximize power. But where the Rekluse truly shines is super rocky nasty slippery terrain where you can just ease the throttle and find all the traction that is just a very difficult skill with a manual clutch that gets tiring.

Dude pro motocross riders top riders are useing them n.loving them so that tells you thats your opionon ,it is difernt but much adaptable ive been riding for40 yrs out of 53 its great but thats me.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Sure is my opinion. Also most pro riders share the same opinion for now.

I will never ride a bike without out the rekuse your not riding Moto cross get real make your day so much nicer

Rekluse Auto clutch on two-stroke is the best way to prevent you from actually getting better at riding an off road motorcycle.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

I know you said you tuned it, but maybe not so much. I have a 2017 350 XC-F, and I have my Rekluse set so even if I have the clutch pulled all the way in the bike still wants to creep. My throttle hits hard immediately. Watch this video of me in deep sand. I didn't touch the clutch the entire time in this video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d6mT2NCSg8rZetI.html

Downhills you have no engine braking.

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

On 4 stroke this is a significant change for sure. For 2 stroke, you already have close to no engine braking. Another downfall is you can't bumpstart your bike anymore!

@onthethrottle7104

Жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 You can but there is a pin you have to engage to bump start. Also, to pop the front end of your bike you should always blip the clutch to do that, so the Recluse acts as if it's not there when blipping the clutch, so I don't know why you would want to just pop the front end up without the blip of the clutch. Maybe you're more of a beginner?

It’s bull shit man the peace of shit broke 3 months after getting new pads from riding smh

Dumbest review of a rekluse yet. You can totally adjust the springs to engage immediately if you want. You obviously didn't do that. There are also many other benefits beyond stalking. If you ride very technical rocky trails it will save your clutch hand from major fatigue which we all want to avoid. Is the rekluse for everyone? No it's not. But your complaints could have been adjusted out of you knew what you were doing. But instead you post a video while your driving? Wow

I picked up a killer 450EXC came a recluse and I hate this thing,,,,absolutely dumping it. Bike definately doesnt have the snap power in all gears , lags down low. scew this thing.

If it didn’t have a small amount of slip you would eventually end up snapping the lugs off the basket. If you want that instant snap use the clutch.

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

Theres none of that slip with the OEM clutch