I'm excited to get my weekly BBC! Thanks guys for uploading :)

@settdown7001

Жыл бұрын

sounds a little sus ngl

@goldythefish36

Жыл бұрын

@@settdown7001 I think that was the point haha

@francispaniagua4228

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHHAHA

Love the clips corner. I listen to this at work, only audio, and you guys do such a good job describing everything on screen.

@damnnewbie11

Жыл бұрын

totally agree with this. I don't even need to see the clip because they describe it so well i can just listen to the audio.

On the topic of champion mastery i would like to say that champion guides made by curtis are an absolutely insane learning accelerators. I played over a hundred ahri games in diamond, i watch the guide, boom, im winning every lane XD when im learning akali or talon i legit have to watch 50 vods to learn the same prinicples curtis puts in a 1,5h video (:

grateful for the uploads

Dear BBC, I would love to see a bigger revisit on Off-Meta. 31:25 Curtis mentioned playing Off-Meta being significantly lower in rank and practically holding yourself back (in terms of ranked achievement). However, not so long ago I remember him talking about a Zeri-Mid and that playing Off-Metta can give u an edge over the opponent (inflating ur rank), because they have no to very little reference on what you're tying to archive. This take resonated with me, because I changed from playing top multiple seasons (playing overall since season 1) to Taric Jungle only. In under a year I reached from gold to diamond as an Off meta onetick and I feel like that my skillset on this champ is hardly transferring to other champs or roles. For example, I tried Taric support since i main him, but I just get obliterated in lane. Great episode! Would love to hear more about Off-Meta, Cheers!

@SiMeGamer

Жыл бұрын

I think that's exactly the point though. You can only get so far with surprising your opponent and during that you also need to have some semblance of mastery. I think the Zyra mid example is really good to illustrate that (me being a Zyra support main in high-Diamond low Master). Nobody knows what Zyra does in mid cause nobody plays her there. But to be able to punish heavily with Zyra you have to play on the edge and farm really well which is incredibly difficult. As weird as you are for your opponent, if they just say "YOLO!" you are most likely either dead or so low you need to base because her kit, as it currently stands, is almost only fit for support. Your plants are sht and die to any ability or are AOE'd instantly. On support you can just waste mana and get poke gold through your item and they can't just kill your plants because you have the ADC together with you to punish and defend the plant, giving it that extra window. In mid if you defend your plant and they go for you, there is no body to punish them for it. It's an extremely squishy champion that requires a team to help zone off areas and prepare objectives. It's intense to squeeze advantages on mid. Every auto matters and you have no safety net. No mobility. Your spell casts lock you in place for a long time. And your damage is often unreliable. Unless you absolutely love the champ and the role and are willing to sacrifice everything to find those limits and play style to the minutest of details, you won't be able to abuse the unfamiliarity of the champion. Taric is useful no matter what and you can clear camps in the jungle well. Your ganks are decent and you are always useful in teamfights. Now, the bonus with Taric is that he is a rare pick and he can do what almost everyone else does. It's not the same as Zyra. You can survive much easier. You are not locked for CC. You can be self sufficient with gold. This is btw why Zyra jungle is almost always more successful than Zyra mid, because you have a much easier time getting gold and you are the one who dictates objective control (you can sit in dragon for a minute just placing seeds and if the team doesn't want to join you and the enemy collapses at the very least you can get a kill with that huge plant army. You cleared your camps so it's not like you wasted time vs gold. Weird picks need to have some clear self sufficiency. With Zyra mid you are not only setting yourself up for failure by having a suboptimal pick. You are also required to learn the game in a completely different way which translates to no other champion in League. Heimerdinger and Teemo can solo fight and 1 vs 2 with minimal setup. Zyra needs a team and to position immaculately (all while farming well to be of any value). So even in her sub genre of champions (controllers) you are different. As always "get into the details" is the most important thing. Some weird picks can get you far purely on the enemy not knowing what you do. But some can't because the enemy not knowing doesn't matter because they are so much easier to pilot and their regular patterns don't need to adapt to you. I hope this was understandable enough. Niche and weird picks can work but each one should be treated separately upon analysis. On some you will be elo inflated and on some you'll be stuck. But for every one of them there is a certain limit which depending on the player's dedication are impossible to overcome on that specific pick and requires a more traditional option. I had to spend so many hours analyzing every single click I made with Zyra to be able to win in high elo. I managed to get my deaths down to 3.1 on average from over 6 over last season and still most of my lost games are due to me mispositioning a single time in the game and dying. I can't wait for her to be reworked in some QoL way, because Zyra's current state might look good but it's so incredibly tough. Zyra players are also some of the highest average mastery mains because there is literally no other way to be good with her due to the amount of nuance and ease of punishment. But when you play well it feels so incredible. I would definitely not recommend her for any new player if they want to improve at the game.

@thorreggaming2249

Жыл бұрын

Curtis mentions some of the champios that they are "Allowed" or recommended to play in his below gold program. You know which they are? I've tried many mid laners but I really enjoy playing tanks. I like Cho and Gragas mid. Perhaps they are kind of off-meta champs.

Something I'm surprised not to see mentioned with one-tricks is watching them for lane matchups (especially bad matchups). Watching Makkro and Kaatreus vods has been massively helpful for teaching me difficult tank matchups like Ornn into Camille and K'Sante into Gwen.

Man… this is my biggest problem. I know that I need to review my games. But I feel like I’m “wasting time” when I could be queuing for the next match to get my LP back. It’s a bad narrative, I know. I bet I’d be a rank or two higher if I stopped being lazy and just did it

Volibear is a nice example for playstyles and item builds. In Jungle I always for Iceborn + Deadmens to force engages. In top lane it's similar but with some AP mixed in for wave clear. Sometimes I like to go Sunfire + Jaksho to become super tanky or Black Cleaver + Radiant Virtue when going for team. And of course the most common top lane build is Nashors + Riftmaker but then you should never look to group and always split push and duel since you're squishy.

Curtis is a natural psychoanalyst

Great episode as always and can't wait for the next one with Cupcake!

Excited to watch this one, my mistake is exactly that

I'm now really curious who the 13 approved mid champs in the MLS are, but I'm not sure if it's information that you're able to share

Ludens is better for the assassin playstile. It deals more dmg as soon as youi have 2 or 3 items. At 1 item its even. After that the pen kicks in. BUT ludens deals way more dmg in a teamfight while you can only deal dmg 1 time with everfrost.

Yo, it's Boris! I'm also the guy who joined Saltu and has been playing since S3 :) I'll make you that powerpoint for Gragas one of these days, Nathan

The timing on these podcast a scary sometimes, I deadass was watching a bunch of Lurkz videos literally right before this, I am a talon main though so I guess it's not too crazy.

I usually get 3 items on ahri fast because i almost always get mejai's and that 5 mpen is sooo much more substantial then the 10 ap from EF.

ah fuck I just had a 3 block yesterday that I didn't review because I was so frustrated with it (legitimately had inters running it). I feel specifically called out by this title lol.

I find itemisation very hard to understand. I'm playing Ashe/Jinx currently, and I've had several conflicting opinions on what to build on both champs given to me by high elo players. From 'hurricane is the best' to 'hurricane is worthless' to 'build LDR 3rd' to 'don't build LDR until 4th item'... What is a Plat 2 dude to do!

@Astromythlete

Жыл бұрын

Usually you start getting creative with your items once you have a ton of mastery on your champion, that's when you have enough knowledge to actually challenge the tried and true builds and start building what suits you and what fits your playstyle

Been waiting. Love being a BBCer

Ok, so i hear you guys talk about jungle, mid, and support (cupcake). What about programs for top and adc? Just curious as i want to join, but i'd have to switch roles.

Ever since I've started playing I been looking for a podcast to better help me understand league and how it relates to life in general. I started watching back in November. BBC, that is. Since, have climbed to Bronze 1, have started my KZread channel, and continue to play every day. One of things I do is I almost exclusively watch 1 tricks for the champions I play - Katarina, Ahri, LeBlanc It has helped immensely

50 games is about 1.5 days worth of time on summoners rift

Finally a new episode !!!! God blessed us with a new amazing BBC Episode, halliluyah i guess !!!!

I think YedaoShen is by far the best talon player you will ever come across, and he does all of the playstyles (conq, electro, phase, first strike) depending on the game. I would love to see what Curtis thinks about him, because I was in awe seeing how clean everything he does is, from laning to teamfights.

Please tell me i am not the only one waiting for a talon guide!!

YES!

HES WEARING PANTS

@fl3che

Жыл бұрын

I think both do it after gym and this time they did it maybe before

Guys, please invite Coach Cupcake for one of your episodes. He lives in OCE and is the best support coach in existence. Would love to see you guys together ♥

@HanyuuHOLO

Жыл бұрын

Probably two things are true here, 1: you are a new listener, and 2: you commented this before actually watching the episode. They invited Cupcake in episodes 49 and 115, and Nathan said in the first half of this episode that they will be inviting Cupcake next week.

@janhob7250

Жыл бұрын

@@HanyuuHOLO i commented before the video. Thanks for the good news 😍

When someone talks about numbers when it comes to itemization, instantly i know that person has no idea what he's talking about.

I’m surprised the guy who got challenger account didn’t get banned

@unhaix707

Жыл бұрын

Why ban him? The mmr system corrected for him.

@vansserafim

Жыл бұрын

@@unhaix707 Many deaths are auto detected by the system + reports for inting

@vansserafim

Жыл бұрын

Riot for sure can detect the suspicious drop in rank and selling account is against the TOS

nice to hear curtis is a based furry talon omegaspeed enjoyer

@sas3y

Жыл бұрын

furry?

@VigilTheProtogen

Жыл бұрын

what did i just read

@keggo2068

Жыл бұрын

@@sas3y watch lurkz77 stream 😳 (great stream btw)

@Renicorn_v2

Жыл бұрын

He is (NOT FURRY) actually

I am curious on how people find one tricks. I play lillia, and even on the lillia reddit only found one person who streams lillia as an otp. How do you find otps 😭😭😭

@Bighomer5

Жыл бұрын

That's Curl King? Nobody streams Lilia but you can watch replays in-client.

@bemtheman1100

Жыл бұрын

@@Bighomer5 its actually the steamer Swagger_42069 on twitch. Intersting so could I just find a high level lillia player and watch their games? I know how to watch my replays and my friends replays, but is there a way to watch random peoples replays?

@jessebarnett6591

Жыл бұрын

league of graphs, champ, all regions, right click every socials link in the top 400

I have 3 accounts. On 2 I hit platinum on less then 100 games. On my third account (my oldest account) I recently dropped from Gold to silver after about 700 games, while having lp gains of +14 -32 and I am not able to climb back up right now. Any opinions on that? How can a system work this bad? Im literally the same player on completely different elos. On the silver account I now have a good mix of games where I am completely smurfing and games where I can’t do shit because my team is literally clueless on how to even right click. So now I’m stuck in an elo where I don’t belong obviously. How can that even be possible? Mmr is simply an outdated concept in my opinion, at least when it comes to league. Do you agree? After now seeing this happen on myself I’m pretty sure there are a lot of players who are lower then they should be just because not wanting to have multiple accounts. If I only had 1 account I would think that I’m a silver player still and wonder why I can’t climb, where in reality it has nothing to do with my skill really. If you don’t believe me just do the math: +14-32 gains? That means I need around a 70% winrate just to not drop further in my rank. Pretty hilarious.

@colinbuhler3860

7 ай бұрын

Maybe riot just wants their low elo to be 1 giant mass idk. But to me it seems very wrong.

"the items change the way you play" might be the wrong way to think about it. if you have a better intuition for skirmishing you should itemize for that, if youre a better laner itemize for that instead. rather than change your play, theres space to specialise items to your behaviour.

great argument that everyone (ESPECIALLY LS) should understand is that items are way more than just their #'s

@Zevrael

Жыл бұрын

He does.

50 games are not fast and he is still in silver, not in 2 ranks apart from iron. he still ruined 50 games, he should have been permabanned before the 10th game. its unaccectable that he didnt even get banned after 50 games!

Can someone tell me why i get this sh*t game recomendation all the time i didn't even play it :)