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@vanhminglianitochhawng3209

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@coffeecat3166

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly you're just adding fuel to the fire. You're making opinions out of incomplete and unreliable information. That in itself creates so much misunderstanding. A lot of those accounts and comments have been proved to be fake. Stylists and staffs who have worked with irene for years had come to her defense. I'm not erasing the fact that she did something wrong, in fact, she apologized for it, but if it were a frequent occurrence, these people who's with her for years wouldn't bother to put their names and professions at stake just to defend her. The fault was at both ends but you're all so quick to throw rocks at her for what? For being mad at the stylist's incompetence and negligence that affected their whole performance? This is too unfair. Some of y'all just want to hop on this bandwagon hate. You never cared for her before, i wish it stayed that way. None of you even knew about the issue until she apologized. She blamed no one, she never hid behind her company, she personally and publicly apologized and owned up the her actions. No idol could do such a bold and mature move, others would have let the issue down and hide. But she has a strong individuality and personality very rare from the idols.

@tasyagabriela19

3 жыл бұрын

this video was done WAY TOO QUICKLY and only based on one side. i hope you make another video that contains all of the FACTS. this comments sections were horrible and include many false informations.

@eeeveee

3 жыл бұрын

Day 8 of Telling Angelina to make a whole video in French:

@laurend.1913

3 жыл бұрын

@@coffeecat3166 It’s okay to have an opinion. You have an opinion that she was adding fuel to the fire but clearly many people here did not. I’m not a reveluv but I still have an opinion on this topic. I’m not sharing my opinion right now because personally, I don’t want to be a part of any childish arguments or create fan wars. I don’t hate Irene for doing something wrong. Everyone makes mistakes and by my judgement, her mistake didn’t affect me. Her apology wasn’t directed towards me. This entire situation has nothing to do with me. But, that also means that it has nothing to do with you either. The only people who should really be involved in this are Irene and her stylist. If you are so quick to tell off people who are interested and having a discussion about this issue because you think they are going to hate Irene for making a mistake, I urge you to please think about your own hypocrisy. Just because You are a fan of Red Velvet doesn’t mean that you can be a part of this and no one else can. There are plenty of people here who are not reveluvs and they still have an opinion on the topic. I’m not saying that you can’t have an opinion, I’m saying that you are telling people that they shouldn’t have an opinion on an idol’s situation if they are not fans of the idol. Now, I don’t believe Irene is a bad person, or that she isn’t regretful for her actions. I simply wanted to point out what I thought about your statement and to have a discussion without creating an argument. Have a good day/night.

If only this was my social studies homework...

@yomama1717

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo I would pass with you 😭😭

@entyope

3 жыл бұрын

Then I would be first

@choerrymotion

3 жыл бұрын

i wishhhhh

@mecoma1322

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO I'm actually in history right now and watching this instead of listening to the teacher

@greentea4462

3 жыл бұрын

𝘞𝘦'𝘥 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘱𝘢𝘴𝘴, 𝘪𝘨 𝘭𝘮𝘢𝘰

in my opinion, we should not accept irene’s apology nor throw shit at her because it’s not our apology to accept. people need to stop making assumptions about irene or the stylist because we weren’t there to witness anything. as for people trying to make assumptions about irene, YOU DO NOT KNOW HER! so stop spreading rumors because your actions make you just as bad as the “monster” you’re trying to paint her. i hope the stylist and irene are okay. i am on no ones side.

@soirann102

3 жыл бұрын

The best and only way is to stay neutral and wait for the upcoming tea to spill

@littlemagikarp3399

3 жыл бұрын

i love this so much. i agreeee

@tacosiracha2091

3 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!! People are so quick to jump on things when they don’t understand the situation fully and multiple times it’s been proven to either not be true or as bad as we think like with woojin, seungri, and hell even johnny depp. I think we should all just stay neutral for now.

@magicbrownies

3 жыл бұрын

YES THANK YOU!! Nobody (apart from Irene and the staff) really knows what happened and now everyone’s jumping on the bandwagon (tbh I’m not surprised anymore). Is it that hard to just stay neutral?

@Lai.dentistry

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacosiracha2091 i agree with the stance but seungri is a whole ass criminal 💀

Irene: admits that she was rude to staff and apologized SM: admits that she was rude to staff and apologized Clueless stans: she's an angel. we don't know the full story

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid fans: "Irene is a human and the stylist is clearly a robot"

@moririn9923

3 жыл бұрын

TRUEEEEE!!!!

@jasminewadsworth1983

3 жыл бұрын

@your local trash can Maybe, but everyone involved has stated that this behaviour is a significant pattern for Irene. It's one thing to have a breakdown, it's another thing entirely to be consistently rude to other people.

@dianao500

3 жыл бұрын

@your local trash can umm she said so in her post. She said she's reflecting on her past behaviors and how she can improve. Which to me implies she has behaved poorly to more than just this stylist. Also, I don't know about you, but I've never lashed out at someone for minutes on end. Of course she's human, so I can understand if she snapped at someone or said a mean phrase offhandedly. But she went in on this stylist for 20 minutes. There is nothing a stylist could have done to warrant that kind of backlash. Never in my life have I heard of something like that, and I work in the OR with mean ass surgeons...

@dianao500

3 жыл бұрын

@your local trash can It's only been 2 days so no one really knows if she's trying to improve... Only time will tell. I'm still a fan of Red Velvet and will continue to support their music.

"idols are human" stylists are humans too

@mdh9247

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. She literally shouted at her for 20 minutes. This is not being "human", this is being a monster. The fact that this happened before and she only now "apologizes" because there is a recording... Fans who support her after this are crazy.

@whee4899

3 жыл бұрын

@@mdh9247 wdym.bro its sound SUSPICIOUS just to be attacked by someone without defending yourself i mean a lot of people who have worked with irene have told that he is generally nice soo i dont trust thia stylist and how he would know she would be angry and recored her it is clear that she was provoked

@whee4899

3 жыл бұрын

@@mdh9247 if she behaved so badly why he hadn't defended himself and waited released the drama on social media

@whee4899

3 жыл бұрын

@@mdh9247 he just want clout and thats all

@ainocj173

3 жыл бұрын

@@whee4899 I believe the editor/stylist is a she. The editor probably record because she knows that she made a mistake and know that irene is going to get angry at her or irene already started yelling and then she started recording as a proof. Either way irene and SM apologizing and not even defending irene means that whatever the stylist said is true, so it doesn't matter what the intention the stylist post this. The fact is that irene has bad attitude toward the editor and her subordinate, irene apologized, and the editor accepted it so the matter is done so don't blame the editor.

I hate how people defend her and says “she’s so nice” but in the same breath say to those who dislike her “yOu DoNt KnOw HeR sO sToP aSsUmInG”.

@noelkuriakose8641

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao exactly

@donnabenevientoismygothmom9535

3 жыл бұрын

Can't humans just love each other? 💔

@user-ng7nv3lk6k

3 жыл бұрын

i can't understand people who stan and defend irene now...

@donuttt2636

3 жыл бұрын

shes only nice to her friends, fans and labelmates and ppl show that to us and say shes soooo kind kpop needs more people like IU

@donuttt2636

3 жыл бұрын

@Camilo Henríquez yep i was just getting to know red velvet because i always never showed interest in them and only showed interest in twice and bp, but bi loved monster and psycho, but now i look at her all i see is her fakeness. made us all look like fools...

People on Twitter are saying that they would love to get yelled at by Irene and I hate that. It may make the stylist feel weak or something. Twitter is making it a joke. For once I agree with the KZread comments more than twitter.

@drakehollie414

3 жыл бұрын

Same for me, but with TikTok. I'm honestly so disappointed with all the kpop stans on that app defending her and her actions. I really thought after the whole Jimin and Woojin situations that those people actually had common sense. Turns out they're nothing more than obsessive hypocritical sheep 😔

@vids373

3 жыл бұрын

its what you called obsessesion. and that is sick!

@drakehollie414

3 жыл бұрын

@@vids373 It honestly really is

@angelknives375

3 жыл бұрын

Twitter users feel like they're the smartest lol makes me sick

@Mar-lx2xy

3 жыл бұрын

They are also victim blaming which is so stupid

i love red velvet. and i love irene.. but this to me.. seems like she only apologized because the news broke out. and i'm sorry for saying this

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

To me, the stylist was brave enough to expose her.. especially she came from a really successful company who really favours Irene. The insults were probably horrendous to make SM and Irene apologize almost immediately after the incident broke out.

@saleemsandro4249

3 жыл бұрын

How should Irene did then? She got hated for her apology. Then if she didnt apologize, she would get hated too. Tch

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

@@saleemsandro4249 She should've known that her country is sensitive af to these kinds of controversies, I don't think her career will be the same again..

@saleemsandro4249

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 Of course things wont be the same again for her, but thats just consequences for her action. Still, she doesn't deserve the hate she is getting now. With people taking adding oil to fire with false accusations.

@clairdenonu

3 жыл бұрын

@@saleemsandro4249 read my comment again. did i say anything that implied that i hated her? no. i said, i love irene and red velvet. and whether the rumor is true or not, the damage has been done. but if she had apologized earlier to the person, before the news broke out, there's a possibility this won't happen.

Speaking as a Korean, foreigners, don't stand up for Irene. Gapjil is a very sensitive and strict problem in Korea. Koreans never defend and accept bossy. This is certainly something to be criticized for. Irene also acknowledged and posted an apology on SNS (although it is very insincere). Sometimes, comments say that she is good to the staff, which means that she has discriminated against according to her standards. Well, it's true that there's a victim anyway, but what's the difference in that defense? Irene screamed all sorts of bad words for 20 minutes. The victim is 40 years old. She has 15 years of experience as an editor. What on earth did you hear in those 20 minutes, even though you've been watching everything in the industry, you've given up your career and posted it on SNS? I can't even imagine. So please, foreigners, don't unconditionally defend Irene and face the reality. Of course, it would be wrong to criticize Irene for a separate matter. But this is certainly something to be criticized for. Celebrities are never superior to ordinary people. Is it okay for Irene to overuse her power on the staff? Apart from that victim, countless victims are already posting on SNS. Understand the atmosphere of Korean society first before protecting Irene unconditionally. Gapjil is an act that will never be accepted in Korea! Gapjil : To collectively refer to unfair practices done by those who have the upper hand in power to those who are weak in the relationship of rights.

@deara0234

3 жыл бұрын

So, the victim is a woman?

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

@@deara0234 Yeah

@danielahuenul8770

3 жыл бұрын

yeeep attack Irene, let's make her feel like trash for making a mistake that its have already fixed and let's ignore the victim last statement.

@deara0234

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielahuenul8770 lol, you're sarcastic,right?

@karolinanaidon1726

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it suspicious for you that this accident happened before everyone knew that 30 people died from new vaccine? Don't you think it's suspicious that the stylist/editor opened her private account just for this case? Isn't it suspicious that in editor's last statement he/she said that "Irene has already apologized before I posted this, I made that in order that she gave public promise that she won't do this again. And she even didn't yell at me, she yelled on someone else"? Didn't editor get confused with his own words? Moreover, even if Irene yelled, isn't it suspicious that she/he recorded it as he/she knew about that? And remember that they had problems on the concert (changing dresses, problems with earphones which might have caused serious trauma), wouldn't you be naturally angry about that? AND Personally, I believe more people who have worked with her FOR YEARS or pretty long period of time (for example, Damiani editor, dancers, stylists, dorama stuff, even someone from China and Indonesia) not just 1-2 days at all. And , after all, yes, she might behave unprofessional, but hasn't she already apologized and even wrote the statement before SM? She might have hide behind her company but still, she spoke first and even didn't tell her side of story. From this situation, I learnt only one thing: Irene is very mature person, and I hope when she comes back ,she will shut up haters' mouthes and continue to work as part of Red Velvet because 5-1=0

Sm is a pretty big company and they would never apologize if there is no “evidence”. SM never acts that quickly to apologize on something. They are not that stupid. In the past if someone accused their idols on something that is not true SM would have sue them immediately. But they clearly know how serious this is and if they don’t apologize or act quickly, the stylist will reveal the recording file that has Irene’s voice in it and we can all hear she was dissing the stylist. It would definitely destroy her career as a Korean Idol. Irene definitely messed up this time. This is such a childish behavior. She is almost 30 years old and she has been an idol for 6 years. She should learn how to respect others, especially the stylists because they are the one who help her to always look perfect on stage. Again I know everyone makes mistakes. But guys come on this isn’t the first time though. There are other stylists, photographers, staff members in Irene’s movie also agree that she shows attitude before. Imagine if the stylist don’t expose her? I’m pretty sure Irene would never feel sorry for her behavior since this aint the first time. This would be a big lesson to her.

@UA-nv7xe

3 жыл бұрын

Emily, thank you for writing an intelligent comment. So many brainless people defending her in the comments smh 😔

@Emily-id1il

3 жыл бұрын

@@UA-nv7xe I mean i wish she knows her behavior is wrong and apologize to the stylist immediately in the first place. The stylist would never have to expose her like that. This will definitely has a negative impact not just on Irene’s image and career but also Red Velvet as a whole in the future.

@Emily-id1il

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Zschusschen because there’s actually no reason for SM to defend her behavior lmao. If there was actually a “good” reason for that, why not stated? Not only idols but as a human being, if you don’t respect someone don’t expect people to respect back at you. She’s in her 30’s not a teenager kid to act this way. She should apologize to the stylist in the first place for making her cry not just waiting for the stylist to expose her on social media then start apologizing.

@Emily-id1il

3 жыл бұрын

@Alexander Zschusschen Not in the first place tho. If she apologized right after the words came out of her mouth for making the stylist cry, The stylist would not be that shock and expose her and We would not know about this as well. She apologized AFTER she got exposed on the instagram. Then SM got involved and they start to apologize and ask the stylist to delete the post.

@Sb-kx9ne

3 жыл бұрын

Thing is Irene apologised before SM, which never happened with previous controversies. I think the apology sincerely comes from Irene, and SM is obviously not going make her take it down now that it's out cus that's shady, but I believe that if Irene hadn't admitted to it herself, SM would've just waited to sweep it under the carpet.

This proves that we don't really know our idols.

@ziya31

3 жыл бұрын

Not trying to be rude but why did it take this to prove that you don’t really know your idol who you aren’t in their personal life and never spent quality time with

@Daksha_kaveramma

3 жыл бұрын

@@ziya31 well that's exactly my point, fans tend put their fav's on a pedestal and have a prenotion that they are perfect. They don't personally care about us. This incident is a reality check unfortunately.

@Daksha_kaveramma

3 жыл бұрын

@@ziya31 and I agree with you.

@chunkimonkithefiftieth8328

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! As much as people like to think they're idols are amazing people, they push away the fact that they are just people as well. I'm not surprised about this info, however I'm disappointed in people that literally treat and see their idols as untouchable Kings and Queens.

@ziya31

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daksha_kaveramma yeah it is a reality check!!!

The staff is a senior of 15 years in the industry, yet they still CRIED after Irene scolded/yelled at them for 20 something minutes... Imagine what horrendous things she said to make someone who has had so much experience in the industry (be it with idols or staff) cry. Also a lot of other staff members liked her post and even some verbally supported her. Also it's said that someone even recorded the whole thing and after SM was notified about it, quickly went into action and apologized (and obviously made Irene apologize as well). Honestly Irene's apology is "fake" for me... If she even care about what she did, she would apologize the same day (after calming down) or the next day. This just shows that she didn't even think of it as something big enough and only apologized now that it blew up. Shame on anyone who still "defends" her by calling it a "bad day" or a "mistake"...

@beandal8493

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@sorrynotsorryhighwaytoheav7831

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@danielahuenul8770

3 жыл бұрын

the other posts were fake Imfao, those other profiles are fake, you should inform yourself before talking shit. Irene was in the room with the whole team for 20 minutes no one said that Irene was "yelling for 20 minutes" not even the stylist.

@danielahuenul8770

3 жыл бұрын

she did expressed apology through manager after finish the work, but that wasnt right and the stylist are dissatisfied (as she should) dan wanting a personal private apology. So she decide to went public

@fchick

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, fans really care only about idols but i really feel sorry for that staff

“everyone has bad days” can we stop with that stupid excuse already😐 irene is literally pushing 30 she should know not to go around being rude to whoever she feels like. also, this wasn’t a one time thing and the stylist literally said she’s heard stories of irene being rude to others before they even worked together so i don’t know why people are still defending her...i bet all the people saying “maybe the stylist did something to make her mad” are the same people that say “well maybe she did something to provoke him” when a man attacks a woman.

@justsomeone931

3 жыл бұрын

Stfu just stfu

@poixses_

3 жыл бұрын

ext

@poixses_

3 жыл бұрын

right

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine getting dissed and yelled by a really popular person for 20 MINUTES STRAIGHT in front of your coworkers, unable to talk back on the spot and all you can do is have a mental breakdown from the embarrassment of those words that are directed to you.

@franz-xs3ct

3 жыл бұрын

Ok, so according to our philosophy module arriving at truth is a complex process. And we are taught to view the situation in both holistical and partial perspective. Ok so in holistic perspective let us give indention to this stylist. Being yelled in front of her coworkers for 20 minutes(?!) you say. Well it scars. Imagining doing your job and be put in spotlight with many people. Its her right to voice out her feelings. Now let's move on to the partial perspective, where Irene, the stylist, and all around people around them are involved. Why did Irene get mad? Probably because the stylist didn't do her job right or let's say she did but still it didn't satisfy Irene's needs. And let us put in the saying, "Maybe she is having a bad day." Everyone does sometimes. Is it wrong to get mad? Well, yes. Because this society wants us to be good when in fact themselves aren't. And how about those people around them, what they are doing? Watching Irene scold the stylist for 20 minutes straight(?!) Like for real 20 minutes of scoldment yet no one dared to act? Let's say there are afraid. But everyone have the right to stand up for themselves. It is for free. Yes the stylist did but not in the moment. Why do we delay the our reaction if we could have acted at the moment? And we are all bad people. There is no good here. There is just kindness in this cruel world and that is a choice. Why are you all making this a big bad thing? Just because it is Irene, the face of Korea, a member of Red Velvet. What? To show that she is not that goody two shoes, ReveLuvs deems her to be? Have you ever taught that in her 30 years of living she only chose to be mad for a few moment? Aren't you gonna consider that? And how about you getting mad with a person? Have you considered the person's feelings? Don't point out other people's mistake and wash your hands like you haven't done it for your whole rotating life. Reflect and meditate people. Ps. This existentialism is fckin hard

Okay here some facts if anyone is still confused about this situation: - Irene was rude/mean to the stylist and made her cry - Stylist made a statement about her WITHOUT mentioning her name but Irene admitted that she is the person the stylist is talking about - Many sm employees and other people liked that post - Irene & SM released an apology

@aki9530

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen some comments saying the stylist who made the statement, in the past also often had a beef with other idols? I saw someone saying the stylist accused sulli on doing something but I also am not sure about it, just saw a comment// Well I'm confused because of that comment i mentioned, but it's quite interesting that also it is seen that the stylist's account had once posted a picture admiring Irene visual, but later deleted the post. Well It's a bunch of stuff, since there's also people saying SM staff is also defending Irene in her apology post, but imo SM didn't handled this situation correctly :/ Like, I only got across instagram just to see Irene apologizing on someone, and I don't know the whole situation if I didn't searched youtube lol

@muitchi

3 жыл бұрын

@@fiyin1742 girl literally it is true

@hussey3867

3 жыл бұрын

But there are also SM Stylist defending irene tho?

@user-ec9ng5nw8y

3 жыл бұрын

@@fiyin1742 i saw just one of red velvet dancer like that post😢

@neptuneand

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t knew abt all of this :/ damn, at least she addressed this issue and apologized

Don’t like how reveluvs used the excuse that everyone has bad days and makes mistakes for Irene but didn’t have the same energy for the stylist and staff... news flash, they’re also people who make mistakes and have their bad days... they just brought that up to make excuses for her. And weird how SM can clear this up but never address the ignorance and colorism that goes on at that company.. ain’t nobody cancelling Irene. Sm idols can do and say whatever without being cancelled. No matter what.

@hanmira

3 жыл бұрын

well she probably meant SOME reveluvs

@nadilovesbts

3 жыл бұрын

real question: can i ask why you mentioned colorism?

@jorge3234

3 жыл бұрын

Because irene is their goddess and the stylist is just a desperate person that wants to take down the mighty God urene. Fans are crazy, the stylist was warned by fellow staff in the industry about irenes attitude problems.. this isn't the first time. I guess being praised for your looks and having fans bow down to you every single day for the last 5 years gets to your head

@turmoilx9784

3 жыл бұрын

Just wondering if it’s the other way around, the stylist is rude to an idol, would people defend the stylist saying ‘she has a bad day’ so it’s understandable to be rude to an idol, people would probably cancel the stylist like instantly

@gbmnbm4154

3 жыл бұрын

It's bad of them but if you also see, she was someone that they believed and it's hard to forget all she was until this moment, what we should do is to stop acting like famous people are angels bc they show us they're angels

Speaking as a Korean here. As a person who second-hand experienced gapjil from a kpop celebrity, I want to say that "gapjil" is a very bad behavior in Korea. And when I mean bad, I mean if you do gapjil, you are pretty much hated for the rest of your career. My friend was a victim like the stylist. My friend had to suffer from depression for 2 years because some stupid kpop celebrity gapjiled her. My friend suffered because of that one kpop celebrity. My friend quit her job and suffered mentally for 2 whole years. I don't know what's wrong with people who are shielding Irene, but think about it. If your friend or family member was a victim of gapjil, will you still be shielding that celebrity? If the answer is no, stop shielding Irene. As an ex-Irene fan, I am deeply disappointed in her actions and I am absolutely not going to tolerate this behavior. It is ridiculously disgusting and unethical.

@tadmira127dreamuvtadmir2

3 жыл бұрын

Who idol?😳

@sdaf3667

3 жыл бұрын

@@tadmira127dreamuvtadmir2 sorry. but it's privacy.

@tadmira127dreamuvtadmir2

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdaf3667 😒ok

@tangycitrus7645

3 жыл бұрын

@@sdaf3667 im sorry to ask and i can completely understand if you cant. but can you give a hint to which idol? or what group they are in? you dont have to and again its fine if you cant. i understand.

@sdaf3667

3 жыл бұрын

@@tangycitrus7645 I don't want to start another rumor and be targeted. Sorry

are we pretending a 'bad day' is an excuse to make someone cry?? REALLY?

@vo5996

3 жыл бұрын

it is not normal idol or not and if she has done this for many years and couldnt realize it was wrong, what will change now? did she just now realized her actions after getting exposed? i wont send hate i love rv but cmon lets treat all humans by the same standards

@hyungwon119

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexy613 it? the stylist was and is a person. and she DID CRY. stylists are are also human beings so dont use the word “it” on someone

@omicrontheta3894

3 жыл бұрын

I would have shot and posthumously dissected that stylist.

@chinfn123

3 жыл бұрын

@@omicrontheta3894 stop making irene image worst if ur a fan just support her quietly for now and go stream rv mvs this is not the time for this

@winterie7075

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinfn123 i made a person cry but oh well it is not the time for this and i should just eat ice cream all day 😋💀

dang she’s fast

@noname4028

3 жыл бұрын

Raini Rodriguez is the 13th member of loona

@Nicole-xe1jv

3 жыл бұрын

@@eeeveee how dare you not know who raini is 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@eeeveee

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nicole-xe1jv OMG I LOVE HER! I JUST FORGOT HER NAME!!!! AWWWW A&A and bunkd and EVERYWHERE OMG IM AN IDIOT!!!

@samanthaoteng7789

3 жыл бұрын

Right I just saw her apology LMFAO

@hanatarek9691

3 жыл бұрын

LOONA ARE THICC LEGENDS LIAR!!

Fans defending her and asking people to do the same thing is ridiculous, as long as you're not the one she hurt you have no right to say that people should already forgive her 🤦

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

People defend her because she's pretty. They literally simp on her and would DIE for Irene. Irene could kill someone and fans would still defend her saying "it was just an accident, it's the victim's fault for being stupid lolololol"

@staciii

3 жыл бұрын

*ridiculous

@AngelLopez-cy3fw

3 жыл бұрын

In the same breathe we can't hate on her because we're not the one she hurt so,,,

@sarastyles2949

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! I like her too, but this is not something fans should be defending (people shouldn't be hating on her either because that wouldn't help the situation at all). But the thing is, if it was the other way around, people would HATE the stylist with every bone on their body, but because it's Irene, "it's just a bad day"...

@oddeye2412

3 жыл бұрын

@@AngelLopez-cy3fw we can, we acn'f forgive her but we can lecture her, i hate irene apologists.

Yes IRENE is just a Human but that stylist is also a Human

@user-xl7sh2jn3i

3 жыл бұрын

FR

People are being too nice to Irene imo. If it were an idol from any other group, they would get destroyed, but because it's Irene she just "had a bad day" and she "should be forgiven." Stan culture is gross.

@JS-tn9th

3 жыл бұрын

Girl, she is being trashed too, hated and insulted. Cancel culture is gross

@Zihree

3 жыл бұрын

almost all the fandoms cancelled irene. They hated her before the scandal. What else do you guys want? her blood??

Nah cause if the roles were reversed and the stylist was the one who was arrogant and rude towards Irene.. y’all wouldn’t be making excuses. Hold you idols accountable, don’t send hate or bully.

@lin-df4fw

3 жыл бұрын

the stylist being paid to work with irene, not the other way around.

@mapofhersoul8007

3 жыл бұрын

@@lin-df4fw doesn’t matter. I still stand with my point

@seok2221

3 жыл бұрын

lin so?

@aurelia3439

3 жыл бұрын

@@lin-df4fw doesn’t give you a excuse to treat others like bags of shit

@lin-df4fw

3 жыл бұрын

@@aurelia3439 obviously doesnt, but you cant expect praise when you put someone in danger.

I feel like ppl defending Irene's behaviour must have never worked in retail...

@gloriathesexplora9874

3 жыл бұрын

Lol exactly. Or any customer service related job in general. Gave me flashbacks and I feel really bad for the stylists.

@user-jo9pm8fd8g

3 жыл бұрын

Or being a waiter or waitress. I feel bad whenever customers get angry at them for nothing.

@jeffrahmon7892

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly giving me Karen vibes

@ameeraahad7085

3 жыл бұрын

I’m positive that all the people who are defending her (esp on stan Twitter) are young, dumb privileged kids

@ariellemandara1483

3 жыл бұрын

For sure

*"Even before I met her, I heard from others that I needed to be mentally prepared to meet her"* I always had a bad feeling about her.

@shinhan2728

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@yerianagrande5627

3 жыл бұрын

the editor complimented irene in the past tho?

@taequiero7520

3 жыл бұрын

@@yerianagrande5627 Rude people can be nice to others as well. Just because she treats some people well, doesn't mean she's not rude to others. The fact that some people are defending her doesn't make the accusations any less true.

@SaraAnnaIsabel

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@skelovania

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

Guys apparently Irene yelled at the stylist for 20 minutes in front of the stylists co workers HUMILIATING her, watching her cry and continuing to yell at her while she is crying. This is abusive behavior. It's not just "lashing out" it's abuse with words. (Idk the word for it)

@jenonojams

3 жыл бұрын

verbal abuse. but ugh irene

@monoka688

3 жыл бұрын

Feel bad for the stylist :(

@rubiesteban3954

3 жыл бұрын

20 minutes!

@jenonojams

3 жыл бұрын

what makes me even more upset is people arent holding irene accountable for her actions and are acting like it didnt happen

@karinano1stan

3 жыл бұрын

i am not excusing irene but... sorry abuse is something much worse. she was bitching out at the stylist. she didn't abuse her

I don’t like people pushing the narrative of “idols are humans too” and “don’t put them on a pedestal” in this case. I don’t think expecting an idol to treat people with respect is putting them on a pedestal. And cursing out a coworker/employee is not just “being human”. It’s shitty behaviour no matter who does it and she deserves to be called out.

@miseo8432

3 жыл бұрын

From my understanding, the purpose of the phrase “idols are humans too” in this case simply means that we shouldn’t be too surprised when they turn out to not be the person they present themselves as in the media. Idols are humans too is not being used as a way to excuse her actions in this instance. I 100% agree with the point you made, I just don’t think it applies to this video. Edit: okay wait I just realized this might be addressed to fans using it as an excuse and I agree with that oops

@NaDee-mh2po

3 жыл бұрын

I don't agree with that. I mean we don't know what the situation was so why should we look at the stylists p.o.v and decide Irene is in the wrong entirely? I mean you are putting her on a pedestal if you demand nothing but sweet graciousness from her regardless of any situation. 🤷‍♀. I know she was wrong for it and she apologized. But then the fans have a right to say she is human too and is allowed to lose her shit sometimes. There could be many reasons behind this and to think neither of them talked about it leaves everything up to speculation.

@aliceangel3822

3 жыл бұрын

@@NaDee-mh2po Because this isn't a situation that's happened once or twice, this was a reoccurring thing with different people, it wasn't mistake, it was her attitude. Trust me, I wish I could defend irene in this but I don't know her personally, I have never interacted with her but they have. And being human is not at all an excuse to treat people like shit around you, if that's the case, we would've defended jimin 💀💀

@Ruby-dc3wp

3 жыл бұрын

Okay but no need to cancel her career over it

@NaDee-mh2po

3 жыл бұрын

@@aliceangel3822 yeah but have you seriously only ever met nice people and made friends with them? Have you seriously never met people who are prickly by nature, are perfectionists so can't stand mistakes and overall loses their shit when people mess up big time? But are not bad humans but just people who can't help being the way they are? Cause I have met such people and I know for a fact that they get misunderstood a lot for being the way they are. She is human. And she is flawed. And really I know the apology was deserved. And I am proud of her for doing it. I still empathize with her cause she is in a career that demands her to be sweetness reincarnate but her personality has less of sweet and more of thorns. Expecting anyone to be nice all the time is expecting too much. And I agree that idols are supposed to be that way, it's a stereotype really. But I won't condemn her for not being that way. It's not only nice people that deserve support. Those harsh edged people also deserve support.

the fact that other groups staff’s liked the post and agreed with the op’s post is so telling to me. she truly needs to learn and grow up, she’s the “boss” and person in power in the situation. people blindly defending her need to really think about what they are defending.

@zal4877

3 жыл бұрын

Her fans in twitter are disgusting they are attacking the victim

@luvkimlip

3 жыл бұрын

the stylist also had done this to f(x) and it wasn’t towards irene only it was also apparently towards the whole group and plus you don’t know her to say that she needs to grow up bc she’s the “boss”

@turmoilx9784

3 жыл бұрын

@@zal4877 yea I see some say the stylist should just suck it up and not make a big deal to sabotage the idol... tbh if it’s the other way round, the stylist being rude to the idol, would they tell the idol to suck it up? Nah they will cancel the stylist instantly

@entyope

3 жыл бұрын

As a reveluv, a part of me says that irene would never do something like that without a reason. But at the same time I don't know her personally so....

@landy9345

3 жыл бұрын

@@luvkimlip Do you have any source? 👀

Her face is her biggest shield. If she was (sorry!) ugly, no one would bother spending hours retweetings made up defense, positive testimony etc. when clearly she was crossing the line way too far. Calling her a karen doesnt even do justice in her case. I never see a video of a karen lashing out at someone face for a whole 20 min, hurling abuse and reducing the victim to tears in a room full of people, many of them are seniors in the industry. That is not how a normal human being behaves. She was a complete arrogant bully, and this is not a one time thing. The whole industry is calling her out. And rightfully so. I really really hope koreans made her pay severe price for this. At least force her to retire early or leave the group. This is more fukd up than an idol smoking marijuana at home while minding their own business. If they force idol smoking marijuana out of the industry, this one should also be chased out.

@Inreb007

3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree!

@Dreamworld789_

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah she’s a nice girl but she can be unprofessional and be disrespectful at times. We ALL fuck up. But she didn’t even say sorry before to the staff. She slid it under the rug until the staff confronted her online. She just needs to grow up. She just can be arrogant. Probably it’s just from being tired or upset that day. But she could potentially ruin her own career. But I don’t want her to. She’s one of my biases but if she needs to learn from this then that’s what needs to happen.

@limariooppa6169

3 жыл бұрын

@bubble tea Well I can think of a few ugly idols of the top of my head, both males and females. Also my point is not just 'ugly'. If she just looks average, no need to be ugly. no one would bother defending her abusive behavior. Its only because she is very very pretty people would go long way to defend her like this.

@followrosesarerosieoninsta3538

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm

@followrosesarerosieoninsta3538

3 жыл бұрын

@@milly9929 that is one of the scariest thing ever

The problem is, she should’ve apologised a long time ago, once she was exposed, that’s only when she apologised. *That’s honestly just messed up.*

@jessicahernandez3090

3 жыл бұрын

She apologized before the stylists posted this... even the stylist said so

@oppai9611

3 жыл бұрын

Technically it will affect her and her company’s public image if she snitch on herself

@user555e

3 жыл бұрын

@@oppai9611 but imagine how affected the victims were, it’s better to apologise rather than let innocent people suffer for such a long time and her just getting away with it.

@marianelle

3 жыл бұрын

but what if she did say sorry but not publicly?

Am I the only one who is curious of what irene told the stylist that she made her cry ?

@icedtea8085

3 жыл бұрын

It lasted 20 mins so probably a lot of things were said, not just one.

@krustyyy9284

3 жыл бұрын

@@icedtea8085 This is what the people whos defending her dont understand, sure its normal for people to blow up to someone at some point when theyre having "bad days/mood" but im pretty sure its not normal to scream at them for 20 minutes watching them cry. Every one has said stuff they regret later on but only people who has attitude/ mentally ill or extremely entitled would go that far.

@andinho6372

3 жыл бұрын

Hope she releases the video.

@roarroar5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@andinho6372 same

@hearts1702

3 жыл бұрын

@@andinho6372 I don’t think she will, correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the stylist accepted Irene’s apology 🤷🏻‍♀️

Irene didn’t make this “mistake” once, it’s apart of her personality that she only shows behind the camera. I don’t think all of you understand that professionals that worked along side Red Velvet SUPPORTED this abuse and rude claim against Irene that the stylist put out which means this behavior from Irene has been on going for a long time as a grown women but the stylist was bold enough to speak out. Irene said sorry but it’s because she has been caught and what’s the recording of her lashing out at the stylist to NOT be released to the public. I’m proud of the stylist for standing up for herself because it takes a lot of courage.

@ainaamanda5398

3 жыл бұрын

Army shut up

@hanmira

3 жыл бұрын

@@ainaamanda5398who hurt you

@sophsm9860

3 жыл бұрын

Irene was my ult bias 😭😭 I am honestly super disappointed bc I had so much respect for her :( but I’m not going to make stupid excuses for her. She’s definitely not the same person as we thought she was 😐 ur very right

@Maitray28

3 жыл бұрын

Actually other staff posted posted many things how irene is good to them

@aquaaria3489

3 жыл бұрын

@@ainaamanda5398 lmao the commenter isn't even speaking... Just scroll down the comments 😂😂😂

My best friend is a fan of Irene and we had an argument about this. She told me Irene was wrong but if she had her face she would feel fine to act the same. Since when how beautiful one is can be a justification for one's rotten behavior? I feel sad that so many people still defend Irene in this way, or saying she was just "having a bad day", especially when she has received so many backlashes from involved people or people who have worked with her since the post went published. And she said sorry, why would someone who didn't do anything wrong say sorry? Which side of the stories do you guys still need to listen to when the victim has spoken up and the accused has explained and apologized ?? No matter who you think she is, she may not be the person you are "familiar with". What's on the camera should not sum up every facet of one's personality and how they actually deal with real situations, because most of the things on camera is set up and planned and cut out. Take everything you see with a grain of salt, and always be prepared that your favorite showbiz people might not be your ultimate role model.

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty people can kill 8 people and fans would still praise them

@krystalistmc3730

3 жыл бұрын

@Harley Q Her friend is literally such a minority, most ppl are not using her prettiness as an excuse so

@krystalistmc3730

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 yeah uhm.. only insane ppl would praise them, not your average everyday person

@mohammadmuslim784

3 жыл бұрын

Bismillah Hir Rahmaa Nir Rahim hmm, you only sorry when you got caught. Ever heard this line before? I am not red velvet fan or hater or anything. This story kinda pops up out of nowhere on youtube or google search, i forgot which recommendation. I am not perfect and I am a sinner. But I am also a spectator. First it was Jimin who got exposed, now it was Irene who got exposed and who's next on the list? when the fans blindly defended and justifying the actions that says it all, there's something wrong with the fans. If someone you love do something wrong or make mistakes towards another person you defended and justify their actions but when your loved ones got hurt by others you just bash on the other party because they are nobody to you which is a joke to me. Your loved ones can hurt others but you can't stand when your loved ones got hurt? People make mistakes, yes, but is the apology only needed when you got caught? I am not a good person myself but i do know people can change but not MANY can change. I saw many people who just doesn't change at all, only very few that did change but that is very rare. I am not attacking or defending Irene, i am here just merely stating facts that are true and as a spectator i am just pointing out my opinions. take care. Whoever read this have a good day or night. Edit: I just copy and paste my own comment so people get my message , also I don't understand the part where the fans forgave her and defended her when the one who's hurt not you. I am used to toxic environment and I can't stand up for myself because I am weak and powerless nobody. So I understand from the victim's point of view but I also understand the abuser's point of view because they also need chance to change to be a better human being. Also the term like angel like or a being like an angel is funny because that says who you really are. Only judge others by their outer appearances. If someone is ugly, stupid, powerless, poor, no names and nobody is okay to bash them. You only judge what they have and not who they really are which to me is no surprising things to me. I am living on real world while many of you live on fantasy world. A utopia. Real world is where the strong ones oppressed the weak ones, the rich ones doesn't care about the poor ones, the powerful ones abused the weak ones and the beautiful ones belittling the ugly ones. Vice versa also happens. But not all powerful ones, strong ones, rich ones and beautiful ones are bad people. There are few that are good people from among them. But that's very rare. I really hope people wake up to the real world so I am just copy and paste my comment everywhere to say that no one is perfect. Take care.

@abby7697

3 жыл бұрын

your friend is such a big asshole better stop seeing her

Sorry to say that but... If the role were reversed, no one would defend the stylist with « the stylist is a human you know »

You can hold them accountable without trying to cancel or sending them hate comments

@atinymoonizen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ducklings1597

3 жыл бұрын

Get this to the top

@PepsiMewMew

3 жыл бұрын

Well this is where all her fans chanting 'only human' and 'lets wait for the full story' aren't actually helping Irene at all.

@veruskatorres9276

3 жыл бұрын

If only red velvet stans had this same reaction with other idols instead they bring up other past or make up rumors to "cancel" them lol

@Felinaz

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's an achievement most Kpop stans haven't unlocked yet

All the Irene supporters imagine you guys being in that stylist's position.Then you will understand the pain what he or she felt.Being scolded in front of people is more painful than embarrassment.

@RennyloveU

3 жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for the stylist, i would have cried too, It is so humiliating...

@Valeria-mg4ty

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I get second-hand embarrassment when I think about it. I hope she’s doing okay.

@brownies8059

3 жыл бұрын

But we’re is the proof of her actually yelling at the stylist and how do you know it’s actually Irene who the person is talking about

@rkive9342

3 жыл бұрын

@@brownies8059 SM and Irene made a public apology, so this is all true.

@aiyulee6366

3 жыл бұрын

Y'all try to get both sides story not just one sided until the truth exactly out we never know. What we know - shit happens, Irene apologized. Cleared. No one acting bitchy anymore

As an Irene bias, I want the staff member to release what was said on the recording. It may ruin her career, but I want to ease my mind.

@yereveluvies

3 жыл бұрын

It is not a good idea, but I personally want to hear it too. So that I could know the real reason why Irene started yelling and everything will be clear for me. I want to know if Irene actually just start yelling out of nowhere and simply being rude or the stylish actually had done something that might trigger her.

@qwerty-tb4us

3 жыл бұрын

At least, if it was really that bad, her career would be ruined for a reason, not by the public trying to put together the story like a jigsaw with missing pieces because of lack of information. I'm not defending either side, just saying that people are overreacting because the amount of information we have right now doesn't make it a good enough situation for people to get so angry.

@vipblackjack1707

3 жыл бұрын

That stylist is old she's in her 40's. If she released the recording her career is done. She should've stayed quit and keep doing her job like the rest of the staffs.

@heartchan725

3 жыл бұрын

She knew her career would be over if the recording is to be released, that's why she apologized. Unfortunately the stylist is still being harassed by Irene fans today.

@harinibhashyam3125

3 жыл бұрын

@@vipblackjack1707 r u referring to the stylist?

People are quite fast in identifying Irene.

@apug296

3 жыл бұрын

How the hell are you here too?! Lololol

@saysonow5177

3 жыл бұрын

@@apug296 this people just attention seeker

@adens6663

3 жыл бұрын

why do i see you in every video

@CatCatCaat

3 жыл бұрын

You’re everywhere omg

@tigersun2592

3 жыл бұрын

Stop commenting in every fking video, your channel is so boring

its the way that if a stylist lashed out on irene people would send them death threats bully them off social media and demand for them to be fired. Its only “a bad day” when its someone you like

@FlowersInThePot

3 жыл бұрын

True

@skzwrld

3 жыл бұрын

girl stfu❤️

@user-rt8xr6yf2x

3 жыл бұрын

@@skzwrld dont call me a girl and im just telling the truth

@skzwrld

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-rt8xr6yf2x sorry about that. and you’re not cause you clearly don’t even know all the info about what happened?? lmao

@user-rt8xr6yf2x

3 жыл бұрын

@@skzwrld its ok! and i didnt really speak on the situation i just said that if the stylist was horrible to her nobody would call it a bad day theyd just attack them and not stand up for them at all. weve seen this happen with countless stylists for different idols and they got fired rightfully so.

Irene should really thank her lucky stars that the audio was not released. That would have followed her for the rest of her career.

@user-mp2mz6cd8e

3 жыл бұрын

but this is illegal.....record on a voice recorder without the person's consent...

@Al-nj8ow

3 жыл бұрын

Томирис Махатаева uhh harassing a person is more likely illegal

@The__Lyric

3 жыл бұрын

@@Al-nj8ow Harassing? She yelled at him in one conversation. I don’t think you understand what harassment is.

@liannaxiao1651

3 жыл бұрын

@@The__Lyric not sure about korea, but depending on what she said it could be classified as verbal assault in some countries 🤔

@The__Lyric

3 жыл бұрын

@@liannaxiao1651 Idk either. I don’t know what was exactly said because the original post didn’t really say what was said. I do know that blackmail is illegal in Korea. So is defaming, which is why the editor/stylist didn’t say Irene by name.

Irene ain’t sorry LMAOOO , y’all hyped her up to much to think that she can be mean and get with it , i understand people have bad days but she was yelling at the stylist for 20 MINUTES , that’s a whole music show performance, and she just sorry bc she got caught 💀

@nuraliakaterina8954

3 жыл бұрын

Only one staff get yelled by Irene because you know sometimes people stress, and i feel bad too about the staff. But, there are 20 and more other staff saying that Irene are nice person. And everyone just quiet, in this case you guys just see how bad are her and not the other nice side. If this situation happen to your favourite idol, you going to do the same things.😌👌

@alnoorist

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuraliakaterina8954 that’s not true that’s my sister btw and she had a fav idol who got called out and she didn’t defend him.

@siom7335

3 жыл бұрын

@@nuraliakaterina8954 shut up

@katloafz

3 жыл бұрын

sorry but that was a mistranslation for yelling at 20 minutes as confirmed by the stylist

@anaya2452

3 жыл бұрын

can y’all pls stop acting like your idol is a innocent angel , this isn’t the first time irene has been called rude , some of the reasons why she has been called rude are ridiculous i agree but still she doesn’t have a background of being the nicest either , but what can i say we will never truly know the idol behind that camera this is just my opinion

"Idols are humans " Umm... So are stylists and staff... If it was the stylist being rude y'all would left right and center bully and send death threats...

She admits she’s been terrible to not only this particular stylist. Seems like she’s a nightmare to a lot of ppl. Doesn’t look good.

@queenlia8600

3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand how anyone could still support her. She's a massive bitch. It's undeniable. SM didn't refute the initial accusations. Many big name industry people supported the stylist. That's all I need to know.

@skydaaa2337

3 жыл бұрын

@@queenlia8600 Because they’re fans who got blinded

@roarroar5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@skydaaa2337 rt

@strangeslantern6458

3 жыл бұрын

@@queenlia8600 she not you are to go out of your way to call people massive bitches so stop your not a queen or nice person your say that when your bullying right calling her a massive bitch

@strangeslantern6458

3 жыл бұрын

@@skydaaa2337 No ❤️ I’m not blinded and all are not we get what she did was wrong she apologized in person and on social media

The fact in her apology it wasn’t only directed to the stylist , but made very clear that she hurt others in the past with her attitude shows that it’s not just a one time incident . That for me is enough to say that she knows she’s in the wrong and even if it’s a save face apology , she knows that she can’t really defend herself. The fact know one is reading into exactly what her apology said is numbing to me , she pretty much said what’s been said is pretty much facts.

@hiraeth7182

3 жыл бұрын

True 👌🏻👌🏻💯

@imangelinayoujennifer

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks to her diva behavior ... Now she's fucked up herself

@jokerguy1378

3 жыл бұрын

@@imangelinayoujennifer would you stfu. Her stylist who actually worked with her for 5 years stood up and defended her. Many other staff and back up dancers defened her on Instagram too. The stylist that complained about her worked with her for one day only and already judged her. I hate how you all judge this situation by listening to one side. Yes she’s at fault but so is that unprofessional stylist. At least keep it neutral “If you can judge a person by one interaction, I think you are living in a world far too difficult If you look at a person with precomposed biases, then how are you going to make a clear judgment from those biases” and this was all said by her old stylist directed to her new stylist. Clearly works for simple minded people like you too

@mohammadmuslim784

3 жыл бұрын

Bismillah Hir Rahmaa Nir Rahim hmm, you only sorry when you got caught. Ever heard this line before? I am not red velvet fan or hater or anything. This story kinda pops up out of nowhere on youtube or google search, i forgot which recommendation. I am not perfect and I am a sinner. But I am also a spectator. First it was Jimin who got exposed, now it was Irene who got exposed and who's next on the list? when the fans blindly defended and justifying the actions that says it all, there's something wrong with the fans. If someone you love do something wrong or make mistakes towards another person you defended and justify their actions but when your loved ones got hurt by others you just bash on the other party because they are nobody to you which is a joke to me. Your loved ones can hurt others but you can't stand when your loved ones got hurt? People make mistakes, yes, but is the apology only needed when you got caught? I am not a good person myself but i do know people can change but not MANY can change. I saw many people who just doesn't change at all, only very few that did change but that is very rare. I am not attacking or defending Irene, i am here just merely stating facts that are true and as a spectator i am just pointing out my opinions. take care. Whoever read this have a good day or night. Edit: I just copy and paste my own comment so people get my message , also I don't understand the part where the fans forgave her and defended her when the one who's hurt not you. I am used to toxic environment and I can't stand up for myself because I am weak and powerless nobody. So I understand from the victim's point of view but I also understand the abuser's point of view because they also need chance to change to be a better human being. Also the term like angel like or a being like an angel is funny because that says who you really are. Only judge others by their outer appearances. If someone is ugly, stupid, powerless, poor, no names and nobody is okay to bash them. You only judge what they have and not who they really are which to me is no surprising things to me. I am living on real world while many of you live on fantasy world. A utopia. Real world is where the strong ones oppressed the weak ones, the rich ones doesn't care about the poor ones, the powerful ones abused the weak ones and the beautiful ones belittling the ugly ones. Vice versa also happens. But not all powerful ones, strong ones, rich ones and beautiful ones are bad people. There are few that are good people from among them. But that's very rare. I really hope people wake up to the real world so I am just copy and paste my comment everywhere to say that no one is perfect. Take care.

@mdh9247

3 жыл бұрын

I think SM wrote the apology for every person Irene hurt in the past because there could be other exposes about her after this. It's SM's work.

We understand she was having a bad day, but what about that stylist? Is that her fault? Why would she tolerate Irene's rude behaviour? Just bcz of you're an idol doesn't mean you have to behave like a rude person to others. Irene made her CRY, imagine how rude she was. Only a simple apology wouldn't make a difference, she deserves to get this hate. *Support the stylist, not the rude person*

@Noble_Isaac

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@yereveluvies

3 жыл бұрын

Your choice of words somehow trigger me. No one deserves the hates. Irene made mistakes, and she deserves matured critisms in purpose for educating her. She does not deserve hates which simply bashing and cursing her. Critisms and hates are two different words. If people normalize the "hating on someone when they make mistakes", then everyone will end up having anxieties and depression because of the burdens to become perfect and perform only perfection in life.

@Noble_Isaac

3 жыл бұрын

@Gabriela Camacho Reyes lol Talking about "good person". Do you know your idol? Do you know their true personality? I'm sick of those delusional fans who say "my oppa is kind", "my bias is sweet". No you never know their true personality, you only see what they want you to see. Stop being ignorant.

@blckvlvt7437

3 жыл бұрын

" Is that her fault? " that's what your question right?Irene didn't lashed out for no reason. For me both stylist and Irene are wrongs. I'm blackvelvet stan here~ I don't want to creating fan war here cuz u also blinks right?

If this was the other way around, that stylist would be dragged to hell and back by some crazy ass fans.

Irene had no right to scream at the stylist. No matter how much I love Irene , I genuinely feel bad for the stylist. Irene and the stylist both work under sm, Irene could have thrown a fit if she was the director of sm. But she's not , she could have told her manager about it who would have taken steps but verbally assaulting and harrasing her infront of other crew members is just disrespectful.

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen multiple comments defending Irene and calling the stylist a delulu for crying. LMFAO please don't defend arrogant people. If they disrespected staffs because they're below them, then they obviously do NOT truly care for fans.

@somashantiniketan

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 yes . Given that the stylist worked with sm groups for almost 15 years says a lot. And no offense it's pretty clear why Irene apologized . The stylist had taken a video as proof , if Irene didn't apologize her whole career would go down the drain.

@somashantiniketan

3 жыл бұрын

@Dark Shadow I don't think in every workplace a person gets harassed in front of everyone. And the stylist worked under sm for 15 years , which means shes probably senior to Irene. Yes , Irene could have been under stress , but I frankly think that people like stylist, cameraman, makeup artist, etc who work behind the screen are more stressed than the idol . The idol just goes and perform in a give location for 1 day , but the crew members have a go their regularly and check things up so that everything goes as planned. One mistake and they might get fired . This isn't the same for idols , they don't get fired of they make a mistake on stage or forget the lyrics. And the stylist didn't complain to anyone she just posted her part of the story on insta

@jackrowell3682

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 I don’t think irene is arrogant. You’re really not helping the situation for anyone at the moment with that sort of comment. She has already since apologised in person to the stylist which the stylist accepted her apology. What we as outsiders need to do is give her a second chance to prove to us that she isn’t this sort of person that people are trying to paint her out to be.

@layloo5244

3 жыл бұрын

Yall. Its not just screaming and shouting. I suggest you read up the reports from the other stylists and staff who have opened up now. She did other things to put them down

a list of the most prominent people who liked the stylist's insta post : rv's coordi rv's backdancer editor for vogue's september issue who worked with irene recently industry-leading photographers hong janghyun & kim heejun boa & shinee's coordi industry-leading nail artist unistella marie claire, GQ, singles, IZE magazine editors models from esteem sm video director makeup artist for a beauty pictorial irene did movie staff compared to just one stylist speaking up to defend Irene.... I think that already says everything

@user-wo6gv4fe1z

3 жыл бұрын

Even BoA?

@therearenogirlsontheinternet_

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-wo6gv4fe1z not boa herself, but boa's coordi

@1Dudette4Ever

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, do you mean they liked the post with their insta own accounts?

@starrynight2274

3 жыл бұрын

But they didn't mention Irene in the post right ? Those people might have liked the post cause they've experienced the same thing from OTHERS ...

@therearenogirlsontheinternet_

3 жыл бұрын

@@1Dudette4Ever yes.

stop making excuse and defend her, she’s literally infamous by being rude in the industry. stop supporting her her asap

@T-ANURADHACHOWDHURY

3 жыл бұрын

☕

@user-fb1yi5ix7f

3 жыл бұрын

this video is not a reliable source to get facts from just saying :D more than 10 staff members who have worked with irene have come out and defended her even tho it might ruin their reputation cause all of korea is blindly hating on her rn. + if you were in the shoes of the stylist and were getting scolded, would your first reaction be to start recording? (its illegal in korea btw) i dont condone what she has done either but this video is very misleading

@lydiakang7695

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fb1yi5ix7f it is because the stylist were worried. She already heard about Irene’s bad reputation so the stylist recorded just in case

@user6842

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fb1yi5ix7f it literally gives proof on how she was acting towards the staff though. this video is not whatsoever misleading, she was evident the whole entire time

@karinano1stan

3 жыл бұрын

rude? lmao the rudest thing besides this was her rbf

I find interesting how the comments from fans contradict themselves "she is human, humans make mistakes" "The stylist should have done their job properly" So the stylist is not human, therefore is not allowed to make mistakes 🤔

@skittle-chan4788

3 жыл бұрын

@Gabriela Camacho Reyes I see u in every comment...stop defending her ! And if u want to defend her after so much go ahead gurl!

A lot of people are still defending irene and putting down the staff that speak up ....and it's upsetting. The apology is not yours to accept its for those who were affected. But what you can do with this information is to reevaluate whether you yourself would like to keep supporting her or not and thats on your own judgement. (Doesn't mean to start bashing her) Also a perspective/opinion of mine to those who are defending the "its a bad day stance" again my opinion with the information available right now: even if she did even have a bad day and "unintentionally" made the stylist cry. If she was truly a good person she would have apologized a$ap rocky or even have apologized when she realized how immature she acted.

@kl1290

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's been upsetting to see people try to justify this. Also a lot of people of twitter have been making up things, falsely saying the stylist is a man, saying that this incident happened at a recent concert when it didn't, even trying to say Irene was set up and making a conspiracy theory. The incident was recorded, the fact that Irene and SM apologized let's us know that whatever was revealed on that recording backed up the stylist's claims. And as you said, even if someone has a "bad day", knowing that the stylist was verbally attacked for 20 minutes and started to cry... there's no excuse that Irene didn't know that she had hurt her with her behavior. That she only apologized after being called out shows that she never really cared enough in the first place.

@Lai.dentistry

3 жыл бұрын

@@kl1290 yeah its honestly unfortunate how many people go length to make things up so its in favour of the idol. Im not surprised that's happening...ive been into kpop since 2008 and maybe because I was shielded from the ugly side but its so much worse now. I'm still disgusted by the reaction of fans to the blackpink mv with the Hindu god. People started belittling and disrespecting Hinduism in general and it was truly.....disgusting and horrific. And yeah I agree it seems performative at the moment. I just hope the stylist is okay ):

@ryuustories

3 жыл бұрын

True. Exposing someone who is so popular takes alot of courage.

@rhombus6

3 жыл бұрын

The stylist has accepted the apology and took to instagram to ask people to stop spreading misinformation about other alleged past incidents. So where do we go from here with videos like this?

@nadia3614

3 жыл бұрын

Even worse they made up stories that seems like the stylist is the one who makes irene like that. She went on a anger rampage 20 minutes?? 20 minutes?? Such a karen behaviour. Seems like a habit of her.

It's so sad that people had to warn her about Irene's personality before meeting Irene...that shows that Irene really do have a bad attitude towards other staffs and stylist as well...💔

@nydra8119

3 жыл бұрын

Some stylists actually supported and defended Irene... I'm really not trying to defend her because what she did was wrong no question but all I'm saying is let's just stay neutral and don't pick sides. This is hard for us Reveluvs as well

@nydra8119

3 жыл бұрын

@;; m&m 's yes very true. I think the best thing to do is just to stay neutral and watch and see

@tialemlongchar8096

3 жыл бұрын

@@nydra8119 did I mentioned Irene to be cancelled? No right? I am just sad because she really did that to her and it's clear because she wrote an apology letter officially on Instagram....i love Irene but the fact that she did that to her makes me sad like for real..place yourself in the situation as the editor and then you will know the pain of being crumbled and feeling inferior

@bananamilk8745

3 жыл бұрын

I’m so disappointed in her

@tialemlongchar8096

3 жыл бұрын

@@sofia_c_1 do I don't have the right to be sad? Like did you even saw her apology? I am sad so please at least let me be sad and stop making me the bad person here...and yes just to let you know,I love Irene and that's not gonna change..and I am happy that she apologise officially..but I am just sad and disappointed...it will take a while for me to recover.. so just let me be...and please no hard feelings ❤

you guys over protect her.... she wasn't sorry at all she always have a bad attitude... you guys keep telling she is a human she is a human... so the stylist isn't a human too?

ANYWAYS IRENE ATE

Bruh this isn't her "imperfect and human side" of her. This is bad behavior even as a regular person. She literally yelled at someone for 20 minutes without even letting the person explain or talk and saying mean insults. And Irene even admitted it so her fans can't say "You don't know what happened" cause both sides agreed and the victim was very detailed in what she said. Irene shouldn't act superior like that cause at least 80 percent of her fame came from her natural looks she didn't even work for.

@roza2633

3 жыл бұрын

i agree with you except for the last part. it implies that if people were more focused on her skills than looks (and honestly arguing that she's not talented or doesn't have skills is just stupid especially after the subunit) she would be allowed to behave this way and that's not true. no talent or hard work is an excuse. i liked irene a lot, but i'm not.... really /shocked/ that this happened if i'm being honest. she does seem like someone who might have an attitude problem and being rich and influential probably doesn't help. those actions are awful and not everyone behaves this way so it's not just "human", however i have known people who snap in this way and i don't think they're irredeemable or whatever. i think one of the issues right now is that people either act like she's a complete monster with no good traits or qualities or that this is just a small mistake. i hope she actually works on herself and doesn't snap at staff members anymore in the future

@okey1805

3 жыл бұрын

@@roza2633 but the thing is, I’ve seen a lot of videos and clips of her whether during a Korean tv show or fan meetings but I realized we shouldn’t even be surprised. I’m actually surprised her real self was exposed so late. There are so many clips of her during fan meetings staring at fans and just having a horrible attitude. When there was this show Red Velvet were attending, each member had to fill out a few questions they’re going to be asked and they had to write some lines they are going to say. Other members were writing in long sentences very detailed and Irene herself filled everything out with like one word answers. During Radio Star when the MCs ask questions, even the most shy people still try their best to talk a lot and in detail cause it’s a talk show but Irene wasn’t even trying to answer that well saying “she isn’t the type to talk a lot”.

@roza2633

3 жыл бұрын

@@okey1805 nah see now you're just specifically trying to make the simplest behaviour look evil. she was hated for having a so called "resting bitch face" before there were even rumours about any rude behaviour, while male idols are just called sexy for not smiling. i'm a red velvet fan as well, i've seen a bunch of videos too, on many of them irene is acting very sweet. you can dislike her for this especially considering she admitted to that in her apology, but stop acting like she's just horrible and rude at all times. on top of that we do not know her, what it also means is we have no idea what was going on in her personal life during the time you just described where... her crime was not writing something and not saying enough. like seriously right now you're just undermining this situation that happened by pretending this is even comparable or something to hate on her for

@okey1805

3 жыл бұрын

@@roza2633 nobody says it’s sexy for male idols to not smile. Have you ever seen any idols not smile during fan meetings other than Irene? Honestly, having to attend those as an idol might be tiring and boring but normal idols are grateful for their fans coming there to meet them so they smile through the whole thing saying thank you to every little present they get from a fan. That’s just a normal thing to do.

@roza2633

3 жыл бұрын

@@okey1805 1) people do say that. like they Literally do idk what to tell you lmao 2) get over yourself i'm just gonna say that. you saw her not smiling and now you're ranting angrily on the internet like i know we are in the middle of a pandemic but there has to be something better you can do with your time. if you wanna criticise and dislike her for what she admitted to in her apology that's totally fine, but over analysing her regular behaviour and being mad that she wasn't smiling in some video is genuinely ridiculous. she needs to work on herself for sure and you might need a break from the internet, bye

"Idols are humans" is that an excuse to be rude and treat others like trash? Stylists also have to swallow their stress and anger, and just because Irene felt stressed and couldn't control her anger doesn't mean it's ok to do that. It's an explanation but not an excuse. Now, we don't have the rights to hate on Irene, but if you're a fan just admit that what she did wasn't right. If you have anger issues you should treat that with a therapist, it's really not an excuse.

@user-jo9pm8fd8g

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being level headed in this comment section.

in life two things define us "your patience " when you have nothing and "your attitude" when u have everything.

Let's turn the tables around and say it was Irene who cried because of the stylist's harsh words and actions. Would any of you guys who are defending Irene now defend the stylist and say things like "She's human too", "She might have had a bad day" and such? I bet you'll be telling her to die, kill herself, kneel for an apology, etc instead. I didn't see even just one person defending Jimin when Mina talked about her being bullied and depressed coz of Jimin. Does the stylist need to be depressed and suicidal first too for you people to understand how wrong her actions were? Yeah, she didn't do anything wrong to us, but that doesn't mean she should not be scolded. It's normal for people to react and scold someone if the person does something wrong, even if you don't really know each other. Example is if you see a kid bullying another kid,should you tolerate it and let it go, thinking it's not your child anyway? Never tolerate bad behavior She WAS my bias but this is a total turn off, knowing it's not just one person and it didn't only happen once

I agree that people can have bad days, but at this point it seems like this is a known behavior/attitude of Irene's. I don't know what happens when some people gain fame that they forget that staff aren't there to be their servants or punching bags for bad days; they're your coworkers. Hopefully this will serve as a wake up call for Irene to separate any stress/annoyances from her personal life with her work life, no matter if they're people she's worked with for years or just that day.

@itzymidzy9728

3 жыл бұрын

XY G even more stylists/directors are now exposing her now. She is clearly an evil person who thinks she can do whatever she wants with her plastic face, I mean she can scold an industry pioneer who’s in the magazine for 15 years for 20 minutes straight. She should be going to show me the money and show off her rapping/dissing/swearing skills against Jessi tbh

@lovelly_life

3 жыл бұрын

Finally a comment that sounds like a sane person is speaking unlike her fans that are saying “I love you, we support you...”

@MsAnnas

3 жыл бұрын

@@itzymidzy9728 hahahhahaha, show me the money, yeahhh

@inulouis121

3 жыл бұрын

@@lovelly_life Funny thing is, I'm both a Reveluv and am Irene biased. That being said, I think fans are the most important people for holding idols accountable, for any range of wrong doing. Whether that be something said that was insensitive during a broadcast to a crime such as a DUI (I'm thinking Kangin from Super Junior). It's unfortunate though that situations like this allow an idol more "forgiveness" than if they're outed as dating/married.

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

@@itzymidzy9728 Jessi would killer her on the spot after one sentence 😂😂

but she still made the stylist cry,we all have bad days yes.....but even I would know how to control my temper and know if someone is getting hurt by my words

@user-jo9pm8fd8g

3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone sensible in the comments!

@zoellack4365

3 жыл бұрын

I mean some people just cry really easily. Not taking any sides though, there is just not enough information.

@audreyangeline7359

3 жыл бұрын

I mean i’ve definitely yelled at someone when i’m in a bad mood especially when its my time of the month, but i would never make someone cry, i feel like the minute the person that they are screaming at cries, you have to realise that you have gone overboard and not just keep yelling at her

@lene4303

3 жыл бұрын

people keep saying that she's only human and she has bad days but any fully grown adult would be able to keep their emotions in check if it was causing someone to shake, cry and feel humiliated, there really isn't any excuse I can find to justify her behaviour

@ismailabdhakim3704

3 жыл бұрын

@@audreyangeline7359 the stylist is a man.. i mean he’s really a cry baby then ....

Just think if it was the other way around. Y'all would've cursed the shit out of that stylist. The stylist is also a human with emotions, if she isn't an idol doesn't mean her emotions has less validation.

This situation has nothing to do with us. We don’t even know why Irene was mad. People should not attack or cancel her, that’s just immature and hateful. I bet there were people who already hated her just looking for an excuse to do so openly. It’s sad. We DO NOT KNOW THE WHOLE SITUATION. I hate that everything has to be posted and put on social media, the stylist knew Irene would get TONS of hate and harassment. She knew that. I’m neutral. I’m not a part of the situation, but it all just seems so petty. It should have been kept in private. Someone’s image shouldn’t be destroyed. People nowadays are way too one sided on the Internet. People will use any reason to beat up, bully, and bash a person on the Internet. It is not okay to post every problem you have with someone and/or conflict on Instagram. I’ve never agreed with that. The issue does not involve us, so why did WE need to know? Why did a PUBLIC APOLOGY need to be made? It wasn’t for us to accept. It wasn’t our issue. It annoys me. Now it is not just the stylist against Irene, it is thousands of thousands of netizens against her too. Thousands of comments talking down on her and calling her things. NO PERSON DESERVES THAT. it’s ridiculous. Cancel culture is bullying in disguise. To be honest, the stylist endorsed that by posting what she did. She knew people would find out who she was talking about. And they did, right? She got what she wanted. Only blind people won’t see that that was the intention. One person yells at her so it’s only fair that a thousand people yell back at them right? And now everyone feels entitled to accept or reject an apology that wasn’t even fucking for them. Wtf? That’s how this unfair world works now. THE CONFLICT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSTED. OTHERS SHOULD NOT GET INVOLVED . They are both grown ass women, and the conflict should have been handled in a mature way with common sense. Not posted online for millions to see and judge aimlessly. Ridiculous.

@hayethmarturillas2290

3 жыл бұрын

LOUDER

@songoftheyear7046

3 жыл бұрын

So agree with you on this. The stylist knew what she was doing when she posted that. And now she's saying she didn't mean for it to blow up. Something's fishy. Sick plot

@adityaunnikrishnan5004

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly🙏🙏

@Shiri7293

3 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@songoftheyear7046

3 жыл бұрын

Nanduhh __ true

the fans are saying things things like “she’s a human being too!” like dude i am a human being too but i don’t go out yelling at people because of how i’m having ‘a bad day’ 😐 as an irene stan, i will be holding her accountable for this because it’s honestly disappointing.

@yutopia9305

3 жыл бұрын

@anonymous :))

@roselamoure

3 жыл бұрын

SO true. I think exactly the same! 🙌🏻

@gluonneutrino9895

3 жыл бұрын

We don't know why she was yelling?

@gluonneutrino9895

3 жыл бұрын

@anonymous why? Mind to share?

@gluonneutrino9895

3 жыл бұрын

@anonymous where do you heard this? Mind to share the source? Why should she yell over changing clothes?

The stylist had a voice recording so the apology came quickly cause SM didn’t want it to get released otherwise with no proof I think they would’ve just denied the claims... there must’ve been a money settlement as well or the stylist wouldn’t have deleted the post

@pgangte9019

3 жыл бұрын

☕

@ik5759

3 жыл бұрын

Well if he did release it. It’s impossible to delete something permanently. He might have deleted in his account but somebody must have recorded it. (For more blackmail or evidence.) Eventually we will find out the video/voice recording.

@gendhis1818

3 жыл бұрын

ikr!

@soirann102

3 жыл бұрын

yep, there is 100% chance this actually happend

@aespa4314

3 жыл бұрын

riyal topic irene

So one of my aunt's friend is working as a staff on tv shows, drama, etc. in korea. When we're like hanging out with her, we heard a lot of bad stories about other idols and celebrities there. I stopped fangirling to a lot of group male or female groups because of what she had told us.. So this is one of her story, There's this show that only irene attended, In between takes, she's making face and showing disrespect to the staff and sometimes to a hosts, when on air she's acting cute and all but when the cam is off, she's a devil with angelic face. And i remember one day, before issues popping out continously about this Irene girl, she already told us this "One day, i know her real attitude will be known to her fans and to the world and when that happens, a lot of people whom she mistreated will have justice. She has perfectly pretty face but that's only what she have" a lot of staff don't want to work with her but don't have a choice. She told us that don't believe what we see on tv. Because 99 percent of reality is off cam.

@jessicahernandez3090

3 жыл бұрын

stop making up a wattpad fanfic

@moonlightswing5284

3 жыл бұрын

Try again hun, 64 people won’t waste their time if she’s a bitch

I feel bad for the rest of Red Velvet who are getting dragged down by this scandal...especially for Wendy

i don’t particularly like the whole “she’s human, she has bad days” argument reveluvs are using. of course i’m not saying that’s she’s not human and that she won’t have bad days, i’m just confused on how you could treat someone badly to the point that they cry just because you’re having a bad day. i’ve, of course, lashed out at people as we all do but never have i made someone who i wasn’t close with cry. the most i know i’ve done is just give a bit of an attitude and probably say something out of character but never to the extent to make someone cry. also, the fact that other people who have worked with irene and rv have allegedly supported the post shows that this is could be a reoccurring situation. of course, we don’t know the full story but i find it strange how she could “just have a bad day” multiple times and make someone cry because of their attitude. also, the fact that she didn’t deny acting rudely to other staff shows even more that she could’ve been rude and was not having a “bad day”. i think what we all should take from this is to hold our idols accountable but to be careful with these kinds of situations. since there has already been a statement from irene and sm i’m going to assume that the allegations are true but i will still be careful in the future and i think we should all be careful too. we don’t know everything about our idols and so we should not make a biased judgement. i do like rv and irene so this was disappointing to hear but i will still hold her accountable for her actions and so should the rest of us. let’s just hope situations like this don’t happen in the future and that we can all move on from this.

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Reveluvs would still defend Irene even if she does something worse

@cherri8993

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 not true, don't generalize. I am extremely disappointed and the best I can do is wait and be neutral until more info comes out but in my opinion so far is that she prob was upset and took it out on the stylist HOWEVER this is def not ok and she shouldn't have treated the staff the way she did. We all can't act like we are angels tho and so we shouldn't expect that from irene and I don't think this is a reason to call her evil. All I can hope is that her apology was sincere and it's a lesson learned and if not ig that just means that I'll have to stop supporting her. But let me just say cancel culture has been annoying me for a while now and I think people should be able to apologize and learn from it, I think y'all cancel someone the moment a scandal appears like-

@cherri8993

3 жыл бұрын

@@sayloss2279 we can't base a person's character off a negative trait like that, this has happened to me so I understand. She has done things for others but I'll can hope is that behind these cameras, she makes more of a positive impact more than a negative. Im not at all blaming the stylist as victing blaming is not ok

@koirasty5045

3 жыл бұрын

are u a blink

@kade5914

3 жыл бұрын

joy's earpiece electrocuted her ear back then, same thing kept happening to Irene the day that stylist mentioned, yet he expect her to baby him when she's literally in pain & danger? also he said he has a recording & that looks like a total setup

Lowkey I wish all staff would record stuff like this and expose idols. I’d rather the industry weed out the rude people. But like seriously why even have someone like that as a trainee? Surely no matter how talented or attractive they are it wouldn’t be worth it. Especially if something like this happens in the future and they get exposed

@angelknives375

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, especially bullies they don't deserve to be debuted

@roselamoure

3 жыл бұрын

Soooo true! I personally would never support or like an idol with a behaving like this! It‘s beyond disgusting and the entertainment industries really have to prioritize the personality site too. Good looks and talent is not enough. People will cancel you within seconds if a bad scandal of the idol appears.

@roselamoure

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelknives375 SOOOO true.

@ClaraGD

3 жыл бұрын

@@roselamoure but u guys gotta think the cancel culture started not long ago and Irene was chosen idk how many years ago. So I don't think they thought personality was really an issue back then

@Ana-sj5xx

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe she wasn't as bad back then. Now she's famous and powerful and knows she can get away with it because she's Irene.

She's just affraid of not being an idol anymore...that is why, she's apologizing...

Imagine if the roles were switched

The YG “who’s next?” Poster must have come for SM this year

@johannarodriguez7221

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha😂😂🤣bruh

@sufiya6322

3 жыл бұрын

Wow this “who’s next” is creeping me out

@turtlerabbit139

3 жыл бұрын

Bisshh I was so serious scrolling & reading through the comments then I saw yours i-😂

@sosflare2030

3 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this . YG needs to stop with this Who's next poster .

@kalali7448

3 жыл бұрын

And the fact that YG is also getting so much Money RN made it more disturbing LOL

So because she's had a bad day and she's a human gives her all rights to yell at someone for straight 20 mins LMAO, but guess what that staff is a human being too and belittling him/her just because you're an idol or you're in an upper position is just wrong. But she apologized so whatever.

@kiksos929

3 жыл бұрын

@@scoobyscooby5873 um no I am actually sure that this scandal would be worse if it was a stylist who was mean, they would be fired on a spot

@user-jo9pm8fd8g

3 жыл бұрын

@@scoobyscooby5873 how are they a hypocrite exactly?

@agwommaryam3664

3 жыл бұрын

@@scoobyscooby5873 well if you think she's right and has no fault in this then you're a bigger hypocrite.

@yourshininglightonce9164

3 жыл бұрын

@@scoobyscooby5873 This is the day when the word " Hypocrite " has loss it's meaning

"She's a human, she makes mistakes", That does not justify what she did and said, she has a serious superiority complex, now the agency should send her to a psychologist, to help her change her attitude, she used to be a different girl, but Irene is no longer the same, now she He must change, humiliate someone like that, he already crossed the line

@darkdevilshadowqueen7366

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously man.she need help

She didn't lie when she said: *I'm a little monster*

@AC-wy6qy

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if I’ll forgive Irene, everyone makes mistakes but if she has a record then I don’t think it was a mistake. She was most likely upset, but that isn’t a excuse for her actions. She is 30, she should know not to be rude to people for no reason. I don’t feel like we should send hate to her, I know that she is sweet and kind. She was showing the wrong side. I believe people can change, hopefully this doesn’t happen again.

@lynalyna8004

3 жыл бұрын

@@AC-wy6qy lol u aren't the victime to forgive her or not. If the stylist them selfs forgive her and asked everyone to forget what happened then who you are 💀

I don't know if having a bad day can be an excuse to do such things, especially in a work place where u need to be professional.

@professorhistoire5349

3 жыл бұрын

but we dont know the exact things she said. we dont know how harsh she may have been. it could have been an outburst or smth like that

@assbabywillbemychildsname.3687

3 жыл бұрын

@@professorhistoire5349 Again you're just defending her without holding her accountable for her actions, you're not helping the situation you're just delusional.

@professorhistoire5349

3 жыл бұрын

@@assbabywillbemychildsname.3687 oh i'm holding her every bit as accountable as you are. ppl are already making assumptions, and it doesnt sit right with me. what she did was wrong, there's no disputing that

@weary6109

3 жыл бұрын

@@professorhistoire5349 yes, its true that we dont know what she said but the staff member said they cried in front of her and they didnt mention her apologising at the sight of them crying. Of course she apolised, but after being accused. Just wanna make clear that I have nothing against her, I'm just making an opinion based on how the facts are being presented to me.

@therearenogirlsontheinternet_

3 жыл бұрын

@@professorhistoire5349 the stylist said she has a recording of Irene yelling at her for 20 minutes. That's why Irene apologized so fast, because she was scared the recording would leak. Imagine the verbal abuse the stylist endured. Stop defending Irene.

She isn’t sorry lmao she’s just apologising because she got caught.

@theslacker7589

3 жыл бұрын

What irene did is very very wrong. but maybe yall are viewing her apology too cynically. What if she was actually sincere about her apology?

@nawala7497

3 жыл бұрын

@@theslacker7589 okay, but why is she only apologising now that everything is made public?

@theslacker7589

3 жыл бұрын

@@nawala7497 maybe after she was exposed, she finally realised what she did was really wrong.

@liliken_

3 жыл бұрын

@@nawala7497 idk maybe they talked it out in private? and sm might think that it's unnecessary to apologize PUBLICLY out of nowhere since we were clueless about the situation

@Erika-tm7dj

3 жыл бұрын

She shouldn’t be apologizing to us though she should be apologizing to the stylist which she did in person

As a non reveluv, here's my opinion 1. The stylist did make some mistakes that could've ruined her whole performance in her job if not her professionalism 2. Scolding the stylist for 20 mins straight while watching her cry was so uncalled for 3. And the current people she's working with defending her are from the same company and ARE getting paid by the same company ok. No way they're gonna say bad stuff about her while being in the same place, sm 4. Lastly, I think the apology was done quickly because the stylist had a recording of the situation, so apologizing before the worst was the only thing she and sm could do. I don't hate Irene, I think she handled it pretty well.

@user-fb1yi5ix7f

3 жыл бұрын

how do you know it was for 20mins tf? and who the hells just whips out a phone or whatever and starts recording while being scolded? (keep in mind that its illegal in korea)

@chaepew1949

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fb1yi5ix7f really? from what I've read, korean staffs actually carry small cards (?) for recording just in case of things like harrassment and bullying. Also idk lots of the comments said the stylist got scolded for 20 mins. So....idk

@user-fb1yi5ix7f

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaepew1949 i've never heard of that before so idk, but if they did actually have it she wouldnt really need to mention that she has a recording

Yall need to chill, Irene made a severe mistake but stop acting like she just killed somebody. Irene is an idol and she is aware that even being a bit rude could do lots of damage to her career, she was clearly having a bad day and taking her anger out on someone else, WHICH IS DEFINITELY WRONG, but don't we all have days like these? Irene's actions were very immature but she has apologized, and don't forget that we all make mistakes. She is a person, not some robot created to be perfect.

@oxnyx

3 жыл бұрын

@TWICE ITZY SKZ GOT7 we're disgusting for actually having a mind? pfft

Irene apologized as quickly as possible to the stylist on instagram. It’s not our job to accept her apology and its the victims. I hope they make up. Have a good day.

@teddybear3262

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!!! I’m minding my business because we do NOT know any idols personally or how they act really. And this is coming from a reveluv. I’m minding my business and staying out of this whole thing to let them handle it. I’m not on either sides, but fans should also realize that we don’t know any of our “faves” personally at all. Because we all know that if this was another idol in the same situation , they would’ve been “cancelled” .

@jwwhjs1939

3 жыл бұрын

Because sm is afraid if they audio record at the staff employee card is going to release if they don’t apologize

@topato6137

3 жыл бұрын

People should be like u

@ilvkng

3 жыл бұрын

The stylist already confirmed it was a one time thing, can yall check your twitter accounts or smth

@kasseyflor7530

3 жыл бұрын

Also pls help us clear Irenes name on twt searches. This situation is getting ridiculously awful.

Here are my thoughts: *[Irene's stage presence]* This might be an unpopular opinion but I believe a huge part of being a kpop idol is maintaining a good image. You can be beautiful, an amazing singer, amazing dancer, and an amazing rapper but if you can't keep a good image you won't last long in the industry. In my personal OPINION, Irene does lack stage presence and she should keep a happier face. Before you instantly attack me for saying this let me explain. A kpop idol's job is an entertainer. People pay good money to attend concerts. Irene's job is to give a good performance and entertain those who attend. Stage presence is necessary. I'm not saying Irene doesn't have stage presence, she only chooses to give it when it's her turn. When it's not her turn she looks bored and doesn't give as much effort. Yall tried to cancel Jennie for lazy dancing but then turn around and defend Irene? And before you say I'm being sexist, I believe this applies to both male and female kpop idols. If you're a kpop idol, and you're not trying your best to give a good performance then you shouldn't be a kpop idol. *[Irene's attitude]* No matter what the circumstance was, there is no excuse to treat another human being poorly. Whether she was having a bad day or whatever. I highly doubt this was even a bad day. I believe this is just her personality. So many people who have been associated with Irene and who work in the kpop industry liked the post. The stylist was even warned before hand about Irene's attitude. Now obviously this kind of thing really isn't anything new. We probably stan a bunch of Celebrities who have a terrible attitude that nobody sees because it happens behind closed doors. But this doesn't make it okay at all. This is when a person in a position of power and fame wrongfully hurts others and gets away with it because nobody will speak up on what happened because they know it's not worth being attacked by millions of fans. In this case, the stylist did speak up and now we have more insight on Irene's true personality. *[In conclusion]* It's not our place to say "We accept your apology" because she's apologizing to the stylists and staff members she has hurt, not us. Neither Irene or the stylist should receive hate. We didn't witness it. We weren't there and we aren't involved. I personally think this should turn out just fine. Irene has already apologized both publicly and privately. We just have to take her word that she is improving and working on becoming a better person Thanks for reading all the way ^^

@danielpeyrou

3 жыл бұрын

part of the korean beauty standards is to look doll like. this is why she doesntchange her facial expressions. notice hyunjin (loona visual) irene (rv visual) and many other visuals do this, its part of their stage style, theres people who love it and people who say it lacks energy and they have no facial expressions, korans like it, because its doll like. jpop idols, for example, are usually way more energetic and entertaining focused. thats it, its not that she lacks stage presence, its that her stage presence is not energy-based but more korean-beauty/doll-style-based. have a nice day!

@shulakb197

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielpeyrou she literally lacks stage presence. Hyunjin is one million times better on stage

@aesthetics2445

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielpeyrou I get that now and I slightly agree with it. However, if she was going for the doll look wouldn't she have a doll face during the entire performance? She holds a cold bored doll face when the other girls are doing their parts but when it's her turn she gives half a smile and calls it a day. That's what I've seen from a lot of her fan cams.

@danielpeyrou

3 жыл бұрын

@@aesthetics2445 you know that you can hold accountable without hating right? i dont like her anymore but uhm shes an amazing performer

@aesthetics2445

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielpeyrou I am not hating. I'm tired of people thinking of constructive opinions as hate. I'm not going to change my opinion on her stage presence for the sake of having a nicer opinion. Opinions can be negative.

The fact that she bravely came out and apologised and she didn't even told her side of the story, plus the staff has not so good impression too. I ain't saying ya should let irene slide, she did wrong, she apologised. But telling her to leave the group is completely cruel, she showed a normal human behavior and after being exposed like this Im sure she will be more careful in future.

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Your comment reminds me of that episode in Black Mirror called "Nosedive" where the main character snapped and got cancelled for it

@alexy613

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's true 'They will judge you because they don't know your side'

I love Irene but I’m not gonna cover the sun with one finger, I noticed how she was rude w the staf and members, let’s stop saying she is an angel and everything it’s fake! Cmon guys not all idols are good ppl 💀

@tomandjerry2568

6 ай бұрын

@jj_7599 I agree with you

I am upset bc i am a passionate reveluv. Never expected Irene to be perfect, but not an asshole either

@seempt

3 жыл бұрын

What?!

@ziya31

3 жыл бұрын

@@seempt they never expected Irene to be perfect but they also didn’t expect her to be an asshole. Do you still not understand

@luceinaltis8507

3 жыл бұрын

I got so dissapointed after seeing the news, I didn't expect her to be like this.

@dc9067

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think she's an asshole You can see that she cares about people I think she has the bad habit of taking her anger on others when she has a crappy day

@bluemized

3 жыл бұрын

wtf? she's not. shut up

we always told irene that she was the prettiest in kpop and shes here thinking that shes a princess 💀 this 30 year old woman needs to grow up asap

@predebutvivi

3 жыл бұрын

She’s not 30 yet she’s 29

@Toni-xz4xn

3 жыл бұрын

@@predebutvivi in korea she is 30 ( korean age), international she is 29

@user-kf3xj1ci4v

3 жыл бұрын

Oops 30 i made a typo

@blink-my2955

3 жыл бұрын

She is the prettiest tho at least to me

@user-kf3xj1ci4v

3 жыл бұрын

@@blink-my2955 yes with the ugliest personality oof

Irene: *has multiple sources claiming that she is, in fact, a very rude, cold hearted, mean, entitled, difficult idol to work with People: "oMg LoL that's NoT tRuE Irene is a SwEeThEaRrT, she's So NiCe she was just having a bAd DaY....." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Meanwhile Jennie: *an actual idol who's a sweetheart, kindhearted, hardworking, grateful, very humble whom many sources have claimed that she is very nice and fun to work with People: "ugh she's such a bItCh, so lAzY, Yg's pRiNcEsS, CoLd HeArTeD, sO eNtItLeD, gets everything hAnDeD tO hEr, bla bla bla bla...." sometimes I don't understand the world we are living in 😒😞

@pauuna2.2

2 жыл бұрын

multiple sources? what sources are you talkin about hun, koreaboo, allkpop, LMAO!! STFU.

@fannypackmocha2287

2 жыл бұрын

​@@pauuna2.2 "lMaO sTfU" lmao that's real mature (sarcasm) you must be one of those immature, solo stans who can't take constructive criticism when it comes to their favorite idols lmao grow the fuck up, your behavior is a menance to society. DID YOU EVEN WATCHED THE VIDEO WE ARE COMMENTING ON? IS THAT WHY YOU CLICKED ON THIS VIDEO? TO hate on people WHO SAY that Irene is rude??? honestly have some common sense before typing bs and recognize that your favorite idols have flaws. That's called constructive criticism, and there are mutlitple videos like this one where they share people's experiences talking about how working with Irene was not the best experience. Educate yourself and search them up yourself like you did with this one lmao fix your trash attitude cuz its honestly sad.

@pauuna2.2

2 жыл бұрын

@@fannypackmocha2287 gurl you don’t get me.

@firdanjulian8277

2 жыл бұрын

Bacot

People should stop defending her, not because she is pretty she could get away with everything. I am disappointed actually coz I looked up to her, a stylist exposing such stuffs would never go to any length just to randomly accuse, the stylist is a professional for 15 years think about that..

@KillstreakTacos

3 жыл бұрын

And male idols too. Woojin literally got away with a crime

I see a lot of people saying that Irene is just human, Is the stylist a robot? In a position of power Irene used it against her stylist and humiliated them and made them cry. I see people saying it was unprofessional of the stylist to make a post about it but would you say the same for the AOA member who was being bullied by Jimin? I think we shouldn’t hold double standards for people who aren’t famous. I’m glad Irene at the very least apologized but I hope that the stylist finds closure and feels better for the horrible experience they had.

There is no professional reason as why you would treat a staff member in such a poor way. If the stylist is bad at doing their job? Fire them, complain to your company, ask them nicely, but throwing a fit and screaming at them? Very unprofessional No reason justifies treating those who are below you like trash If you have a bad, the first thing you do is lash out on other people, you need to go to therapy to manage your anger issues, not try to justify your behavior Let’s all live in a world where we respect everyone ❤️ Ps: As I step back I realize that there is a possibility that while what the stylist said might totally be true true but there is also a possibility that there was another reason as to why she treated them like that. Maybe she tried speaking nicely and he insulted her so she lashed out? Maybe she already made complaints and no one listened to her? In any case We will never know the full story. This comment is then addressed to those who thinks that it is okay to treat people who are below you like trash, to those who justify this kind of behavior, not to Irene herself as I will never know what really happend As for myself, I will stop listening to her music cause this is what will put me at ease but whatever you do, don’t bully any of the two parts please

@HwasaHottieXSolarMoon

3 жыл бұрын

Actually that’s a good point too

@444aaaylii

3 жыл бұрын

Actually you're right tbh

@assbabywillbemychildsname.3687

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I can ever trust Irene again, but I'll see in the future.

@godischungha4599

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, she def needs to be held accountable for what she’s done, but people that are trying to cancel her or sending hate towards her is also kinda yikes. stantwt needs to realize that being rude and hateful towards someone isn’t the solution to the problem.

@somashantiniketan

3 жыл бұрын

You are right. She had no right to scream at the stylist. No matter how much I love Irene , I genuinely feel bad for the stylist. Irene and the stylist work under sm, Irene could have thrown a fit if she was the director of sm. But she's not , she could have told her manager about it who would have taken steps but screaming at the stylist and harrasing her infront of other crew members is just disrespectful.

To be honest I always knew irene was sus and I only think she apologized because of her reputation and that the news broke out if this never happened she wouldn't have apologized at least that's what I think

@Ireneisbae

3 жыл бұрын

I- Well I mean that’s your opinion 🌝 So I’ll respect it But she’s not suspicious. She’s actually really nice and from videos , lysn posts , the way she interacts with members and her interviews . You can tell she’s a genuine person

i can't believe she mistreated her stylist, editor, coordinator and back up dancers. then past fancams and videos of her showing attitude resurfaced (e.g. showing how scary she was as a trainee, how she doesn't follow seating arrangements but insists on sitting in the center, her mocking the staff for walking clumsily, her throwing off her knee blanket when upset, etc..) also i think, she only apologised because of this huge audio file of her cursing the staff recorded by the editor in secret for self-defence.

We need more people like this stylist being comfortable to tell the truth. Let us not be such delusional and idiotic fans always defending.

@juliennemaejimenez5280

3 жыл бұрын

That's true..

@storm-ey6vy

3 жыл бұрын

do you know what the stylist name was?

@NoOne-bp4oe

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if this happened to Blackpink... I wonder what's your reaction.

@ellyyoon2208

3 жыл бұрын

Her name is Kang kookhwa. actually shes a more like editor

@aarzoo7970

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoOne-bp4oe We would have the same reaction. Why do you even have to bring BP in this? Is it a sin if a Blink expresses their opinion?

she’s 30. beyond disappointed.

@Valeria-mg4ty

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. People are acting like she’s a moody teenager, she’s a grown woman.

@HelloKitty-oq7ds

3 жыл бұрын

Even if she was a little girl its still wrong cuz kids wouldnt like it if they got yelled at so they know not to yell at anyone(im sorry if this sounds rude im not trying to correct you)

@parkchaeyoung5788

3 жыл бұрын

she shouldnt have screamed but the thing thar happened couldve given her ptsd like joy i mean if that was me id be pissed off because ptsd is sooo bad

@parkchaeyoung5788

3 жыл бұрын

but again shes grown shouldve controled herself.

@allyreyes5750

3 жыл бұрын

PEOPLE DEFENDING HER and TOLERATING HER ON INSTAGRAM, make me wanna puke. It will definitely happen again.

I feel bad for the stylist bc it’s always the one who accues some that is bashed and the bully is going to be supported by her fans. The stylist has been around the industry for over 15 years and it must have been a difficult decision for her to speak up since her career is at risk after exposing an idol from a big company.

@kunzine

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it must’ve of been extremely serious if the stylist was risking their career.

@stepanepolvorosa6921

3 жыл бұрын

True. It takes a lot of courage to expose someone so popular. So now, the stylist is getting the hate forgetting the it is the stylist who had it so bad. Irene has fans to protect her. How about the stylist?

I've never like her there's a weird aura around her...

The lesson: Don't judge book by the cover. Personality over beauty is an absolut.

@fightfannerd2078

3 жыл бұрын

her personality was always bitchy

@hightree9295

3 жыл бұрын

@@fightfannerd2078 not always but sometimes yea

@christinawu4879

3 жыл бұрын

@Just a Sana Fanboy Yeah, so we're saying to not judge a book by its cover.

@donewithyournonesense5632

3 жыл бұрын

Dont judge a person by one Instagram post and a bunch if rumors and fake accounts

*NOBODY* knows their idols. Idols ARE not gods. Some people needs to learn that what they see is not what it really is. No one in any fandom know how their idol really act. And she made the right decision in addressing it herself. She was smart. There is more disappointment than anger.

@justthelonelyheart4520

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what i was thinking. We never have a chance to see them irl some people are not even trusting their relatives how come they trust famous ppl like that

My biggest question is why the stylist recorded it like she was expected to explode, especially since this stylist made accusations agains f(x)'s sulli

@yerizalabimrookie6624

3 жыл бұрын

Thats TRUE ITS SO SUSPICIOUS like the stylist is tryin to provoke irene

@yerizalabimrookie6624

3 жыл бұрын

And the fact that the stylist lied I saw it on twitter that shes not really a stylist but instead a editor

Irene was not bullying her but yelling at her... there's a big difference between both..so be careful when you say something -We fans are not defending her for what she has done..but we are defending her against all the fake rumors spreading..she made a mistake she apologised for it first to the stylist personally and then to the public and the stylist accepted her apology -It was just one time incident...stop saying she have always been like that.. there's no proof that she have always been like that..so please don't believe that..the stylists liking that post doesn't prove anything unless you want it to be like that..how does it prove that she have been rude to them aswell..stop making up stories..stop twisting things to the way how you want it to be -there were many staffs who came up to defend Irene saying she is a nice person..all those who have worked with Irene for years -and I'm not trying to defend her but have you ever thought the reason why she might have yelled at her...do you think she's going to yell at someone simply....we don't know and we may never know..we don't know the whole story..but still from what we know..the fault is at Irene's side and she apologised for it -and please stop relying at fake sources like allkpop or koreaboo..they all took down their fake articles once sm said they would take action...so that proves that all the thing they have been writing is fake

@velvetfanfan6073

3 жыл бұрын

And you might think I'm over exaggerating..but I'm not..I've been stanning her for long...and I atleast know her more that you non fans who are here to hate on her...but believe me she's an amazing person....someone who puts others first ...she may look cold outside but is such a warm person inside... someone who's kind and warmhearted...you might say this incident proves otherwise..but no ..it was just once..why would you mistake a single incident to someone's whole personality I don't know how else to prove this to you..but believe me she's not someone whom all those haters want her to be... she's an amazing person

Irene got me feeling like a Psycho, psycho. Why did you do this to your stylist, stylist.

@leavemealone322

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@imannurhakimzulkafly5079

3 жыл бұрын

Dude cmon hahaha...😂🤣

@anjilathakuri3026

3 жыл бұрын

made me laugh in such a serious situation😂

@Slenderman63323

3 жыл бұрын

Because she's a little monster

@NekowishStudios

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao I love this comment

Tbh I'm not surprised. I don't hate Irene or anything, but she seems like the cold type who could get kind of crabby on a bad day.

@greentea4462

3 жыл бұрын

𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘺𝘭𝘪𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴 𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘭𝘪𝘬𝘦 𝘐𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘦, 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥 𝘣𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘦𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘥. 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦 𝘵𝘳𝘶𝘦 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘸𝘯𝘦𝘳𝘺 🤡🤡💀💀

@Kath7120

3 жыл бұрын

@秋 I know she he/she meant. Irene always acted “not kind” but “not rude” in variety shows, such as in Running Man, she was a little bit rude to others but ppl just said that she was “cold”

@neta4768

3 жыл бұрын

@@greentea4462 ??? we don't know what really really happened. Irene has this coldstare. Maybe the stylist gave her a bad outfit? laughted about her?

@therearenogirlsontheinternet_

3 жыл бұрын

@秋 Tons of ex and current SM staff liked the accusation, RV's backup dancers liked it and one of SM's former video directors tweeted that he's surprised it took this long for the truth to be revealed. Even a staff member for Double Patty (Irene's film she's starring in) said she was extremely rude during filming. And when the rumours started swirling that it was between either Seulgi and Irene, tons of staff came forward to defend Seulgi. Not one person defended Irene. So does Irene has bad days every day?

@tacosiracha2091

3 жыл бұрын

@@greentea4462 that doesn’t mean it’s right to cancel people.

Now that many staffs defended her and the one who posted it remove her ig account, It really seems that they make it so big to the point that it didn't make at all. Those who write false article should be sued.