Red Komodo vs Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6k Pro
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With the announcement of the new Black Magic Pocket Cinema Camera 6k pro, I have been asked how does it stand up to the Red Komodo. This video covers all my thoughts after holding on to these cameras for a bit of time.
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0:00 - 1:115 Intro
1:16-3:12 Similarity
3:13- 5:18 Red Komodo Pro's
5:19 - 8:04 BMPCC 6k Pro Pro's
8:05 - 10:01 Camera Work Flow
10:02 - 11:00 Side By Side
11:01 - 11:45 Ad
11:55 Which Camera Should You Buy?
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Blackmagic has been on absolute fire these last few years. We aspired to have RED's for years. Now we're exclusively Blackmagic.
@bmefilms6879
3 жыл бұрын
this!!!
@robertm3951
3 жыл бұрын
a quality RED is finally attainable. Komodo holds up against URSA Mini Pro for a little more money.
@VivaMediaInc
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertm3951 Oh it's still an amazing camera but RED use to be "the only" option for the best. But now you can get a camera for one eighth the cost and just as good quality
@lacesoutchris
3 жыл бұрын
@@VivaMediaInc while agree the BMPCC6Ks are and have been fire - the Komodo is DEFINITELY a superior machine. RED sensor + R3D produces frames the BMPCC6K simply cannot. ADD the addition of the RF Mount - the Breakthrough Photography Drop In Filters (a much better far more color neutral option than the built in ND’s) 4x4inch 2 lb form factor, SDI... etc... RED’s latest firmware update including multiple animorphic modes, livestream, wireless control, REAL TIME OFFLOADING... this machine is the cream of the crop for under 10k. Absolutely love my 6k’s tho! While only tools, I have to say, the Komodo is once again a superior machine
@VivaMediaInc
3 жыл бұрын
@@lacesoutchris well put!
Pro tip: get the 6k pro and spend the rest on glass.
@13_cmi
3 жыл бұрын
I use plastic glasses they don't shatter
@formx9796
3 жыл бұрын
@@13_cmi brahhh....😑
@13_cmi
3 жыл бұрын
@@formx9796 what? Glasses made of actual glass are only good for filling up with the fridge because you don't have to hold them there. Plastic doesn't shatter if if falls over on the table.
@markterrin8673
3 жыл бұрын
Wise
@Frontigenics
3 жыл бұрын
yep, the difference between allot of these cameras is basically just subjective preference at this point. Good glass will make more of a difference
I had a dream two nights ago that I was changing the menu settings on the 6K Pro. I’ve never even held a BMPCC before, but apparently this is where I’m at mentally right now.
@ChadAltDelete
3 жыл бұрын
Tom, you must be obsessed with this camera too, I keep seeing you on every 6k pro video lmao. I believe you already have 2 eos r's and a 5d mark 2 lol! My 6k pro will be here Sunday!!!!
@impatrickt
3 жыл бұрын
dont do it, tom.
@dylangintherofficial
3 жыл бұрын
Do it tom.
@impatrickt
3 жыл бұрын
@@dylangintherofficial he listened to me. Too late.
@dylangintherofficial
3 жыл бұрын
@@impatrickt 😩😩😩😩😩😩😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I see this video was just posted an hour ago. I don’t think it could have come at a better time for me. I’m literally searching the Internet for a Komodo now. I have the 6k pro... I think I’ll stay out for a minute. All of your points are exactly what I was thinking to justify a Komodo purchase. Subscribed👍🏽
I find it interesting that "getting into the red ecosystem" was a positive for you. It just seems like a terribly cumbersome, expensive and restrictive ecosystem to WANT to get buried in.
@dna8269
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was bit confused at that part too.
@johnduplantier5206
3 жыл бұрын
If you like their products a lot, the ecosystem makes the decision on accessories, and media for you, which can be easier on some filmmakers. I'm with you though, not a plus for me. Same problem with the RF mount, "Insanely sharp" is great, but none of my lenses are RF mount and my clients won't be able to tell the difference. Price Tags are ridiculously high too
@Triforcefilms
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnduplantier5206 best thing canon did was make the ef to RF adapter WITH ND slot. So good, but it wasn't enough to keep me in that ecosystem either. L mount consortium keeps me humming. So open ended, lots of 3rd party and first party support on multiple systems
@johnduplantier5206
3 жыл бұрын
@@Triforcefilms I love the third party support for L Mount too, even if E Mount dominates most lens design it is nice to see a mount and lens system that's so flexible and well used by manufacturers. Also ditto on the RF adapter, that junk was a great olive branch to people heavily in EF glass, not enough for me, since I'm in super35 sized sensors anyway, but it was better than what Nikon basically didn't do.
@Hawzyfilms
3 жыл бұрын
You sound like the type to pass on a Red Monstro 8k/Arri if you had a chance. They're "cumbersome" for a reason (setting up better more planned shots, black shading, etc).Because these are real world production level cameras (komodo just being an entry) so that just means your goal isn't to shoot true movie style videos or true film. Which is okay because then a Red/Arri is not for you.
I think the price remains a hugeeee thing... For the price of a komodo I can afford a 6K Pro + Battery Grip + Enough batteries and a sigma 18-35 and memory, and maybe even a basic rig!
@oscara.2636
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that you get Resolve Studio thrown in for free too. Ridiculous!
@ZXTech
3 жыл бұрын
@@oscara.2636 exactly!
@dna8269
3 жыл бұрын
You can actually get a regular used 6K, a 6K pro, a full rig, some lights, and an easyrig for the price of a basic Komodo rig and you'd have an A/B cam + a cam that can go handheld and run and gun haha
@mrvk699
3 жыл бұрын
And let's not forget, if you have money left even buy yourself a coffee every shoot and thank yourself for Not Getting into a Money Hungry system like R3D
@zebius4157
2 жыл бұрын
Wow thing costs less than another thing total, this floor really is made of floor
A really great overview Brandon. So on the button in terms of thinking about the kind of work you are doing and not just buying the camera because you want it. I'm just off 3 days of shooting different jobs using the 6k pro running and gunning and it's a dream to get up and running. I am also in post for a short that I directed that was shot on a Red and the images we captured are amazing. Two very different scenarios! Two great solutions in the BMPCC 6k and the Red.
I just recently ordered my BMPCC 6K Pro, it'll be here Monday. Great vid.
5:50 gave me so much anxiety before i realized there was a strap attached to it hahaha
This was a fantastic review. Looking forward to watching more of your videos!
Loved this breakdown so much. Definitely subscribing. Keep up the excellent work.
I love the CALL TO THINK at the end of this, really helps me remember it's up to what I'm doing first. Love the vids 🙌
the best video so far !nice comparison ! thank you for your perspectives and explanations!
That was an interesting point you made about the preparation that goes into getting the more complicated rig setup, kind of forcing your creative brain into stepping up and making a more special shot. Never thought about it like that, but I can totally see that playing out for many people. Thanks for the info too!
"I don't even know why I want the RED Komodo" oh sh*t, that's me.
@scottslotterbeck3796
3 жыл бұрын
The name.
Awesome Vid Man... Good to see someone who doesn't pick one over the other but just giving both positives and negatives of both
This is the first of your videos I've watched. I'm an instant fan. You're a great explainer. 🙌
This was INSANELY helpful. You read my mind when you were comparing the two. I think I know which one I'm gonna go for now (and I think you changed my mind).
@zoeyxster
9 күн бұрын
what did you end up getting?
great video bruh. this really answered a lot of my questions. Cheers!
This was an awesome, very informative and well thought out video! Really helped me! Thanks!
Great stuff Brandon! Always love hearing your take bro
I've learned ALL I need from your video to make a right choice. Great thanx!
You are super sharp on camera knowledge! Hope to see you becoming a major director in Hollywood one day. Extremely informative video! Keep up the great work!
Thank you! A great mix of inspiring and informative. I have the BMPCC4K and I believe I'll be ready for RED in 1-2 years. Let's see where the technology takes us by then as well
This was so so helpful. Thank you!!
Enjoyed this video. Love RED as much as anyone who enjoys cinematography. For Indie artists I think the real motivation to go Komodo is passion. Both cameras shoot 6K Raw formats, both formats are excellent. It’s really 6 degrees of separation when it comes to comparing data sheets. For the passionate film maker who will grow beyond the one man army indie artist, RED is the way to go. Neither option holds you back from creating incredible cinematic art.
I love your point about buying the camera that inspires you to shoot more. Taking the extra time to get each shot right and some of the other intangibles are what really what makes that footage stand out.
This video was extremely helpful. Thanks!
Great video!! I have a Komodo and the fact that I have a RED on a ronin s2 is crazy. My clients are obsessed with how small and versatile I am. The global shutter for the win! Honestly, the footage is almost better than my RED Scarlet Weapon. I also just use my phone as a secondary monitor.
Awesome break down. Thank you 🙌🙌🙌
Great video Brandon, lots of good information. Lots to consider. Cheers.
This video was so good man. Really helped me decide. Definitely gonna go with black magic over red on this one.
I think it really just comes down to getting a camera in your hands and actually using it. The camera debate could go on forever but if you don't know what you're doing behind that lens then you simply won't get what should out of it. Creative vision > Gear
You are banging at narration man
Hey! I'm primarily a photographer (concert and music usually), but have been dabbling in live video as of late. I currently use a 5d mkiv as my primary and have a backup for that as well. I'm thinking about the black magic specifically for live music videos and maybe even some light music video work. This video really pushed me instead of upgrading my dslr's to a mirrorless that the tools I have are fine, and I should probably get a cinema camera to keep the video portion seperate that is more focused on that. Cheers and you got a sub!
Great comparison
Great comparison. Thank you.
That was so helpful. Thanks.
This is an awesome video man! Thank you 🤘
Thanks, You got my support as usual.
URSA Mini Pro 12K is the Black Magic flagship camera.
@OuzRev
3 жыл бұрын
He said "pocket cinema" line
I have two 6ks and for interviews I get both angles at once. I get 4 angles from two cameras shooting 6k for 4k editing, two medium and two closeups depending on cropping or not. Bigger projects I can even have a production camera and the 2nd for bts or for backup or one on a tripod rigged out and one on a gimbal. That's a lot of production for less than the Red.
What an amazing video. So well structured.
The best explanation what I seen!
Love all your video 🔥🔥🇯🇲🇯🇲
Such a great video! It's like you've read my mind!
Great Review! Thanks a lot!👏
Very well put.
Great vid!
oh my god the rolling shutter made me laugh my ass off, just goes from chill discussion to literal whiplash 😆
Nice explanation. Really helped me to buy.
I love that last point. If you really want it get it.
Really well done video and argument. Thanks for this.
Thanks, great video! I liked the summary at the end, "the camera owns you.." Hehe!
Nice work. Thanks.
The fact there even needs to be a comparison with the price range and popularity shows which is prevailing
bro, i have been questioning if i should move from the 6k pro to the komodo, and you confirmed why I shouldn't. appreciate you sir
Very nice video !! Well explained
Thanx a lot Brandon!
I've been watching you for so long, and just finally realized who you remind me of.. Demetrius "mighty mouse" Johnson the MMA fighter! Another awesome video man!
@jakflasdick
3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've ever seen of his and I 100% agree
@goonytunes4119
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakflasdick bro if this guy slapped me in a flying armbar during a shoot I would not be surprised
@jakflasdick
3 жыл бұрын
@@goonytunes4119 You get three takes, if you screw up the fourth he's taking your arm home with him
Nice review!
insane review. you the best
Epic review btw
Brother, I have much to thank for in this video!!!
great video xDDD But I have still some questions as it's pretty hard to choose between the 6k and 6k pro haha. I've never had a video camera, so I'm somehow afraid that it will be too heavy with the Pocket 6k Pro (1.2 kg DJI Rs 2 stabilizer, 800g Sigma 18-35 mm, 1.2 kg Pocket 6k Pro, and another battery or SSD.) Do you think that could be the case? Especially when you e.g. film the whole day or when you travel and still have a drone. I also wonder if the 6k Pro's "tilting screen" is really necessary? (I filmed with the Gopro and the cell phone on a stabilizer and never really had any problems, even when I walked very close to the floor. Maybe it's different with the camera, as many 6k users said it is necessary). Buying one later would make less sense, as it costs more and is perhaps even more uncomfortable if you use the stabilizer and fix a "DJI 3D focus system" / microphone on the "head" of the camera. I've already looked a bit on the internet and apparently the 6k Pro fits on the RS 2, but it's not yet entirely clear to me whether that's really true. I have one last question then I say more than thank you; Do you actually need nd filters a lot in filmmaking? thxx
Global shutter was in the first BMCC and BMPC 4K (not pocket) cameras. I still use one of the production 4ks as a B cam and it's global shutter. This has been around since 2013 in Blackmagic.
I honestly think Blackmagic has the best color science besides Arri.
@markterrin8673
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree with you but sometimes people think other way and see colours differently
@poldivina27
3 жыл бұрын
Specially with the gen5 update
@5guysproduction234
3 жыл бұрын
How long have you been colorblind?
@Frontigenics
3 жыл бұрын
@@5guysproduction234 you really think the company behind the industry-standard color tools WOULDN'T Have some of the best color? Canon looks nice in daylight balance... looks like trash for anything else. Sony looks like trash all around. Red has never been known for color... although it's very flexible. Are YOU colorblind? Or are you one of those people that likes to pretend expensive camera are "magically" better for some reason?
@LanaaAmor
3 жыл бұрын
@@Frontigenics Leave him, he was probably introduced to cinematography by some wannabe filmmaker friend. These people have little to no knowledge about digital technology and are led to believe that RED is the best company ever by high-school dropout turned youtubers. I was like him once T_T
Such a good video!
Phuuuu... now i need the same Video with the 6k Pro and the C70 🤷🏻♂️
@GriffinConway
3 жыл бұрын
Coming soon
@TJ-po9ol
3 жыл бұрын
@@GriffinConway Promoting your stuff on other peoples channel, nice
I've been shooting videos for 10 years now and have been on the fence for way too long! On February I placed my order for the Baby Dragon. Excited and anxious. BTW Komodo has a long backorder.
For some reason I always prefer black magic over Red, even when it comes to the ursa vs. the Gemini. I’m just in love with the look from BRAW and the interface is so user friendly
@lukeanselll
3 жыл бұрын
Another pro tip if you don’t wanna use Davinci when shooting in BRAW there’s a premiere plugin that’s basically the same
Love the videos bro but I have to point out that it is funny that you have an SM7B in shot but you're actually booming yourself haha :)
great video bro.
man you can articulate. well versed video well done
Thank you for posting this. Great video. ...Do you have any issues with the ND filters in the 6K pro with tenting or IR pollution?
True review😊👍I subscribe!
This message exceeds its video title. Brandon nailed it on 'being on the fence'.
@dna8269
3 жыл бұрын
The message of stopping the search for the perfect camera is also gold
You’re right!
A-1 content, thanks!
nice video, thank you for you time and share you expertice
Great comparison man! I’ve been wanting to pull the trigger on the RED Komodo for a while now, but you can’t even find one if you wanna buy one right now 😔
Thanks! Can you do a BMPCC 6k Pro vs Sony A7S III vs FX3 vs C70 vs Komodo comparison?
When the RED Komodo came out i was excited, because it was the entry level big time move making camera, it is a legend. Building a basic rig would take me to around 9k and that s a bummer! I decided to go with the 6K pro and i m excited. The camera is so fast to grab and use, has intuitive menus, and mind-blowing picture which you have t see for yourself to believe and all that for a fraction of the price. Its no RED, but its a beast of a camera, which might be my B camera at some point when i might need a bigger production camera. Maybe a RED or even an ARRI! who knows! Content creation and creativity is what we have to work on and you can do this with a 6k pro for many years to come i think. Nice vid!
Who was the bodybuilder? I'd love to see the finished video of her. GREAT advice at the end, Brandon (about being on the fence.) Spot on and someone NEEDED to say it out loud. Thank you. We needed to hear that bro.
Hey Brandon, love the video, have both the 8K Pro and Komodo, both fantastic cameras. Hey which Teleprompter do you use?
Got my first camera in 2018 it’s the gh4 I’m upgrading to the 6k. And man 😂 using the gh4 and dealing with sketchy chicago rappers I always find myself rushing.
You’re comment about the camera owning you vs. you owning the camera is spot on. One additional benefit of the BlackMagic is that is comes with a free license for Davinci :-) The Pocket6k Pro really is an all-in one solution. Love both cameras..
thank you so much.
Good brother thanks for the vid. Can you tell What piece you that’s is on the top of your outrigger Handel. Is that nato rail?
Curios how c70 stacks against bm6kpro .... great job on video
My heart literally stopped when he dropped the camera 5:47 😂
I just started rocking the BMPCC4K and liking BRAW so far. Your comments on the tilt up screen, basically has me sold for my upgrade. I”m working on my own projects... right now a lot with feral cat colonies and rescues. Using the BMPCC4K with ATomos monitor or my JVC LS300 with Ninja V it becomes bulky and slow. Even my iPhone 11 with gimbal can be slow for up close with cats. I’ll change out my iphone 11 for iphone 13 Pro along with my several iphone gimbals. My BMPCC4K is good for many situations, but for my vintage and art lenses with my 0.71 booster I’m missing the corners of say Helios lenses or modern Lensbaby art lenses.. maybe get the Metabones 0.64x that you have on your 4K, and next year the BM6KPro.. faster setup, no need of external monitor. Built in ND like on my JVC LS300 but 6K raw? Ok. I have a plan for next couple of years with projects that are in my near future. OK.. need to shoot some more on my doc project this week and need to start uploading some new content samples. My JVC LS300 is fine for youtube, but yeah, lacking for better... not bad.. but really enjoying BM BRAW format.
Global Shutter and Ergo is really the main reasons to want a Komodo. Otherwise...the color science, image quality, red raw vs braw and everything else is subjective...factor in the lack of internal NDs, it's hard to justify the price difference between the Komodo and the p6k (which is a huge difference lol). 6k pro's biggest weakness is perhaps the rolling shutter and awkward body size, so in my eyes, it's really as simple as is the global shutter and ergos worth the massive difference in price?
I think the pocket is gonna be my go to, its good enough to be professional enough for films on a low budget, and anything with a large enough budget can just rent
i LOVE your sweatshirt bro
This was a great video! The only part I feel you messed up is when you say by the red because you just want it lol I was ready to put my coat on and run out the house
Here’s the thing... As a film student, I’ve shot on both bigger RED’s and the BMPCC 4K, and I’d probably rig both the Komodo and BMPCC 6K up - I enjoy the time spent on setting up the camera and making the perfect shot, and with experience you learn to do it quicker as well. The global shutter is almost a must for me, but as a film student who wants to slip my foot into the industry, the BMPCC 6K is the only thing a person like me can dream about getting started with, as few students have the money to buy and rig up he Komodo.
@matteow288
Жыл бұрын
I think this guy is a film student
@whengrapespop5728
Жыл бұрын
@@matteow288 Not anymore🤝
Genius... 👍👍👍
Hi Brandon , thanks a lot very objective !! So , with my Panasonic Super35mm S1H’s ecosysteem should i take a R Komodo beside for the fast captions according to her super “ Global schutter”..? Both écosystems should match in Raw Rec..
I’m Running on a red Raven right now, I upgraded from a canon 4Dmk IV and Sony A7riii pair and I had just shot an entire feature on 2 5D mkIV’s I was ready for that next step and my God I’m so in love with my RED I can’t imagine going back to anything else I only used the BMPCC6k once for three shots on my feature and I used the original BMPCC 6 years ago for a short afternoon project and while I like Them they don’t give me what I need in my current work of projects