This is why this version of Jason is the best. He isn't angry at Batman for not saving him. He doesn't believe Batman forgot him. He loves Bruce, and he will always love Bruce. He just doesn't understand why he didn't kill Joker, and that's it. I always lament anyone who genuinely believes Jason hates Batman or is just a murdering machine, because he simply is not. He is just a broken boy.

@beatrizsosajimenez3109

7 ай бұрын

THIS THIIIIS EXACTLY MY POOR BABY 😭😭😭😭😭

@littlevoidboi2111

7 ай бұрын

Throwback to the fact Jason died bc of a viewer poll

@MILDMONSTER1234

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for reminding why I despise Arkham knight 😂

@darianwells9191

6 ай бұрын

​@@MILDMONSTER1234to be fair, that is a very different type of universe, I mean getting locked in Arkham as Jokers prisoner, no shock he was broken

@TheRibottoStudios

6 ай бұрын

​@@littlevoidboi2111kinda like how in the warrior cats Fandom ferncloud a speckled gray queen known for staying in the nursery was killed because the Fandom wanted her to die because they thought she was useless. I hate people.

“The friends he’s crippled” damn. Jason wasn’t just mad for himself. He was angry for everyone.

@samwilsoncaptainamerica233

Жыл бұрын

It shows he still cares for Barbara and the others in his own way

@Resident4Island

Жыл бұрын

I like to add something about Batman's moral code i think he's right. I was always obsessed between the no kill or kill rule i noticed the people who crossed the line in other universe's never came back Light Yagami(Kira), Niko Bellic, The Punisher, Spawn Al Simmon's, Alucard all have tragic past just like Batman and Bats walk's the line between Hero, Anti Hero and Villain. As my understanding reading all of reason's of not killing his first reason is it always start's with one what he means by this it's an addiction similiar to smoking, drug's or alcohol . Light Yagami started with 1 at first he was shocked and felt guilt but later he justified his action's saying it was for the greater good. Then 2 reason of not killing is not beacuse is not what his parent's would have wanted the loved one's of Niko Bellic and Punisher are gonna be dissapointed that they turned into a monster Roman: You have to move on all these killing's and violence need to end. Maria: My husband died in Central Park along with his family, all you are is The Punisher, i saw what you did . In the name of our Children. Batman 3rd reason is he won't stop killing Alucard and Spawn they both have demonic appearance's and which make the quote the road to hell is paved with good intention's more literal. They are both consumed by revenge and let it destroy them. similiar to what Batman said to Rachel in Batman Begin's . Rachel: I said some bad thing's to you. Bruce: but true thing's, Justice is about more than revenge. I was a coward with a gun so in a way you thank you. Okay i'm gonna end the comment here i think i dragged long enough .I always found Batman a fascinating character but wheter he is right or wrong is up to debate.

@justsomesmoldemoninabox5146

Жыл бұрын

@@jmcr9555 shut up

@omarcogle1965

11 ай бұрын

@@Resident4Island Don't forget Eren Yeager too.

@tyrenreese9194

11 ай бұрын

​@@Resident4Island beautifully said man, i never thought of it that way. I would throw in Sasuke Uchiha 2. After he killed itachi he was never the same. Thankfully he had Naruto but even to this day he regrets his actions.

Out of context, can we appreciate Jason's VA? His voicing during the scene was incredible!

@thanos1725

Жыл бұрын

and he's voiced by jensen ackles, soldier boy

@ibrahimihsan2090

Жыл бұрын

@@thanos1725 The man had a lot of potential as a voice actor. I really wish they continue Jason's story to where BUTRH left off.

@BrianWalker93

Жыл бұрын

​@@thanos1725 More famously known as Dean Winchester from Supernatural

@thanos1725

Жыл бұрын

@@BrianWalker93 I legit only knew him as soldier boy. good to know tho!

@josiahgonzalez942

Жыл бұрын

​@thanos serious question you've never watched an episode of supernatural? That's crazy I coudnt avoid it in the earlier 2000s when they would show it all the time

“And then one with the crowbar!” Even though the Joker’s identity is supposed to be an antithesis to Batman’s hyper moral, stoic, austere identity; he’s also just naturally really funny.

@earthling_parth

6 ай бұрын

I don't know, the crowbar one was good but I almost never really laugh at his jokes

@TheSimmus

5 ай бұрын

I am impressed how quickly he came up with the idea. I mean, when he asked for the camera, that's already setting up the punchline. Joker sees Jason coming back from the dead and needs barely a moment. "How can I hurt him the most?"

@nunka34ify

4 ай бұрын

I love how that line triggers Jason and he finally forces him to shut up

@toonbat

3 ай бұрын

To me, that's what makes the Joker most frightening as a character. Anybody can write a villain who kills tons of people. But a character that somehow gets the audience to laugh, even as they're doing the most horrible things imaginable... that's a truly disturbing feat.

@RealHajimeHinata

2 ай бұрын

Lol the thought of either Batman or Jason snapping pictures of Joker posing with a crowbar while they’re like, “lookin’ good!” is genuinely hilarious to me.

I'm sorry but I'm with Jason on this one

@Ghidorah_Stan64

8 жыл бұрын

+sdhbfhkds no

@Ghidorah_Stan64

8 жыл бұрын

+sdhbfhkds no

@Ntwadumela89

8 жыл бұрын

+sdhbfhkds joker is lucky Frank castle doesn't exist this DC universe

@TheArtofUTube

7 жыл бұрын

It is simple really, kill Bruce Wayne. Then you will get a true Batman.

@PatientBC

7 жыл бұрын

We've got Batfleck now. While he's attempting to be the "No-Killing code" Batman again by the end of BvS; I could still see him making exceptions with shit stains like the Joker, and still remain _"incorruptible"_ Honestly, I have to question though why some folks cling to the notion that if you kill, you're no better than they are: FOR ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. No exceptions. Period. Makes me wonder if a select few secretly give dirty looks to soldiers or cops who were put into a kill or be killed situation. And for those out there who want to argue well it's apple and oranges because we're talking about supeheroes. People with powers who could've supposedly found another way other than killing, and beating the odds. But in this instance we're talking about Batman. The highest peak of human. But a man none the less. It's laughable how haters compare Bale's Batman taking out an entire SWAT team with zero casualties, when Batfleck was in a similar situation of saving a hostage against a ticking clock. Except the unfortunate causalities on Batfleck's part were criminals who simply got in the way or ended up offing themselves with stupid mistakes. Ironically that makes it more realistic than Nolan's supposedly hyper-realistic, grounded Batman verse. I still reel back flabbergasted by those who denounce Henry Cavill's Superman for killing General Zod. Where it was clear no clever tricks, plot devices, or prison would've solved a god-like, killing machine.

"You managed to find a way to win, and EVERYBODY STILL LOSES!" I love that quote.

@thebigquack6945

Жыл бұрын

John DiMaggio’s delivery of this line is PICTURE perfect

@Damar158

Жыл бұрын

Shame they left out the bit inmediatly after, where Joker stops Batman from disarming the explosives. "No! Don't spoil it, this is better! I'm the only one who's going to get what he wants tonight! Yes! Big-Bang-Boom! We all go out together! Don't you just love a happy ending?"

@dimitries

Жыл бұрын

The joker dialogue and voice acting thru this entire scene is remarkable. I can’t believe this is a cartoon. It rivals Nolans and heaths joker

@Ryan15beast

Жыл бұрын

@@Damar158 see but he still technically loses because he can’t cause anymore chaos after his death

@ericsellers1143

Жыл бұрын

Everybody still lost

This isn't an argument between Batman and Red Hood It's an argument between Father and Son

@ionutalexandru9710

Жыл бұрын

Family but dysfunctional.

@Ditpo

5 ай бұрын

okay so in other words its an argument between batman and red hood

@darkoblade759

2 ай бұрын

"Becuase he took me away from you" hits so hard

I like how the Joker just absolutely loves everything that is happening and isnt worried at all about dying 😂

@comedygold8055

11 ай бұрын

Just smiling and laughing the whole time lol🤣

@devontankersley

10 ай бұрын

That’s because this is one scenario he would LOVE to die in! He is literally getting everything he could ever want out of this scenario! Forcing Batman to break his rule, Check. Jason acting as living proof of “ All it takes is one bad day.” Check. A highly suspenseful, tension filled sendoff that will reverberate through history, Check. And best of all, he is technically responsible for all of it. Jason would never had done any of this if it wasn’t for Joker killing him. The way he sees it, this isn’t Jason’s victory, it’s Jokers. Joker would LOVE to die like this, because this is all he could ever ask for in a final send off.

@alchemistofsteel8099

10 ай бұрын

Joker in this movie is litterally the meme of "You burned my house to the ground, my families" "Sounds like a YOU problem :("

@samanders2676

9 ай бұрын

The man's too far gone and that's an understatement.

@Rosawuzhere

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, he's literally like "Yo! Anyone got a bowl of popcorn? This is some juicy stuff!"

"Because he took me away from you." That one line delivered with more emotion and pain than any line ever in a superhero movie.

@skiddlydiddlydoo4893

Жыл бұрын

...this is a superhero movie

@Gadget-Walkmen

Жыл бұрын

This IS a superhero movie. And lol no, it was a good line and delivery but your exaggerating BADLY right now. Just stop!

@Gadget-Walkmen

Жыл бұрын

@Dutch with glasses there is no “nO” at all, I’m right and you’re wrong.

@Dajuiceman

Жыл бұрын

@@Gadget-Walkmen No your wrong and he’s right

@Gadget-Walkmen

Жыл бұрын

@@Dajuiceman lol not even close, he’s wrong and YOUR wrong and I’m the only one here whose actually right. Just stop with your nonsense.

This is the best take on Batman's non-killing rule imo. Not that he can't kill because it makes him as bad as the criminals he fights, but because on the inside he knows he's such a hate-filled, violent monster that if he lets himself make excuses just once, it'll start a slippery slope of brutal, sadistic vengeance that just leaves Gotham a darker place. Batman wants to be a symbol of hope, not surrender to his worst impulses - and as the Joker will insist, he has plenty of those.

@sipi2009

Жыл бұрын

So why be a hero at all? If it's that easy for you to break and go on a killing spree, despite his apparent mental toughness and whatnot, just don't be a hero or whatever. The most abused, traumatized people still don't become mass murderers even if they had every chance to, and when someone kills their abuser they don't just start killing randomly after that. Some even feel guilty or disgusting AT THEMSLEVES even if it was absolutely justified and even the right thing to do. The logic just doesn't logic, you wouldn't let a psychopath be a hero normally anyway, why is he suddenly an exeption because he is that, if he's literally holding back from going on a murder rampage.

@wesleywallace4426

Жыл бұрын

@@sipi2009 Because you can't put it back in the box. You can make excuses and say it was just that one time, but it's telling the world, other heroes, other villains, and Batman himself that he's hypocritical and can't be trusted. The point of being a hero is to be an inspiration, that people can be better than their past. But if Batman kills the Joker, other villains are going to get a lot more vicious and start taking hostages if they hear that Batman is killing people who "deserve it", other heroes are going to keep him at a distance even more than usual, civilians are going to scared instead of having someone to look up to, the police are going to actively hunt him and not just grudgingly tolerate him. You might look down on the moral high ground, but there is power in being in the right. I personally think there is a difference between killing the Joker in self-defense, either his life or yours, and actively being judge, jury, and executioner. Being a hero comes with responsibility to be on point or at least don't make the situation worse and you can't say killing the Crown Prince of Crime is best choice to make in that moment.

@tobsonasanya4765

Жыл бұрын

@@sipi2009 i mean you can be a hero without kiling lol

@tobsonasanya4765

Жыл бұрын

@@wesleywallace4426 eh i am pretty sure most would be happy batman killed him epsecially civilains

@ampogi019

Жыл бұрын

@@wesleywallace4426 And for that reason I prefer an antihero (vigilante) much more than a hero, in the end antiheroes are not interested in being admired or inspired, or that the other heroes love them, what they are interested in is doing a greater good for the entire population, even if that means killing those who avoid that In the end I think that the vigilantes are more heroes deep down, than the heroes themselves and their moral code. That the heroes are more to make the the work easy for the authorities and be idols for children

Joker's "You found a way to win, and everybody still loses" was amazing.

@justnotme6886

11 ай бұрын

indeed

@hollythemage1350

3 ай бұрын

It's even better in the comics because he says it after Batman slits Jason's throat with a batarang and Jason crumples to the floor and rapidly bleeds out (I wish I was joking but I'm not).

@iron5050

2 ай бұрын

@@hollythemage1350…wtf WTF!? So he kills his god d*mn son but he won’t kill that psychotic clown? What the actual fuck is wrong with this bastard!?

I like that he refers to Two-Face as Dent, showing that, like Bruce, he might believe Harvey can still be saved.

@camnunes8847

Жыл бұрын

Its especially note worthy he mentioned Dent, the man who who killed his father in most adaptions

@clipsclipsandmoreclips3384

7 ай бұрын

Jason understands that Dent’s entire transformation into a villain was all based on a mental illness- Dent’s dual personality. And as long as Dent continues to believe that Batman is not Bruce Wayne, he will let Bruce in with open arms because he’s still his friend.

@camnunes8847

7 ай бұрын

@@ethanglickman2978 Oh my bad

@WanRa28

7 ай бұрын

​@@clipsclipsandmoreclips3384so is Joker. Martian Manhunter manged to cure Joker's madness briefly, and he started crying and regretting all the things he did.

@Smashboi76

7 ай бұрын

​@@Ethanthegreat562wrong. Dick Grayson's parents were murdered by hitman paid by mob boss Tony Zuco as part of a protection racket. Jason's dad was gunned down by two face and his stepmother died of a drug overdose

What makes this especially bittersweet for me is that as the bomb is about to go off, instead of trying to save them both, Batman completely runs past the Joker and tries saving Jason instead. In that moment, he chose Jason over the Joker. Jason actually gets his wish, just not how he planned it.

@dude7266

6 жыл бұрын

JerrBear81 He has like a moment to think, In his defense I’d rather save my son than a deranged mental patient

@kelvinkaesa5803

5 жыл бұрын

If batman had enough time he would have gone back for joker

@JohnSmith-lt1ck

Жыл бұрын

I know it’s been over half a decade but I’d like to add that he leaves Joker *in front of the ticking bomb*

@mizumochidonuts8194

Жыл бұрын

It's been 6 years ... Probably you already know it's different in the comics. In the comic, Batman is throwing batarang to Jason throats area

@starrsmith3810

Жыл бұрын

Let’s add on to it that Jason want from scared to accepting that he was probably gonna die when the bomb went off

Batman kills, he becomes a monster. Joker wins. Batman does nothing, Jason kills the Joker and forces the Batman to stop him. Joker wins. Batman stops Jason and saves Joker, Joker lives to kill the next day. Joker wins. The Joker won. EDIT: This thing keeps getting traction somehow even though its nearly a decade old and I've come realize something about Batman fighting the Joker. The REAL reason Batman can't permanently end the Joker in any way is cuz that would end the conflict, which would prevent DC from getting their money. Cripling him for life? The Joker gets better with a convoluted "somehow". Killing him? Noooo cuz that would be BAAAAAAD and BWAAAA. Batman redeems the Joker? DC will LITERALLY tell you "Ignore that" and carry on like it didn't happen. The Joker won cuz Batman is not allowed to win by editorial mandate.

@cr8zgamer

10 жыл бұрын

that pretty much said it all

@Slashco

10 жыл бұрын

That's one I disagree with. Why would Batman become a monster just for killing Joker? Are those who execute convicted criminals monsters? Are soldiers who fight in wars monsters? And if anyone has ever deserved death, it's Joker. In fact, simply killing him would almost be too kind after all he's done. Still, I don't buy into this whole "putting a bullet between his eyes and ending him forever would somehow irredeemably change Batman" crap.

@MrMillionDub

9 жыл бұрын

Slashco Say that after you've killed someone. The point is that no matter who it is or whether they deserve it or not, once you've started, it's easier to rationalize. Batman is supposed to be a symbol of hope in Gotham, and it's pretty hard to put your faith in a killer.

@BrandonSmith-wf3bq

7 жыл бұрын

Batman's not above the law. He's not judge, jury, and executioner. Even if the Joker deserves it (which he does), Batman's not gonna become a murderer. Really its the justice systems fault for not executing the crazy bastard.

@Kenshiro3rd

5 жыл бұрын

Better question. Why on earth, has the state not executed him? dude ha killed literally thousands...

"I'm not talking about killing Cobblepot, or Scarecrow, or Clayface, not Riddler, or Dent, I'm talking about him. Just him." This is a long line, but a line that perfectly conveys Jason's motives of this story.

@kilometerzmoralez2024

3 ай бұрын

Not sure i understand, i might be missing something but what i get from this scene is that he said “Im not talking about killing Penguin or Scarecrow or Dent, i’m talking about him. Just him.” But i might be wrong and that he says that in another version of the movie but im just curious is all

@musicmanmatt1995

3 ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure it’s a line in a comic where another DC villain said, “when villains want to scare each other, they tell Joker stories.” Kinda shows how even the other bad guys are terrified of Joker.

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon

3 ай бұрын

Ironic, because he killed a lot of people anyways...

@yurifairy2969

2 ай бұрын

honestly, they could kill penguin and scarecrow too. those guys are ALMOST as bad as the joker.

@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon

2 ай бұрын

@@yurifairy2969 It just goes to show that Jason never cared about justice or fairness, he only cared about Batman and the Joker because they where the reason he died.

“You managed to find a way to win, and everybody still loses!” Pretty much defines the history of Batman, he keeps catching criminals and they keep coming back to kill more people.

@user-wf1jb7wv9r

6 ай бұрын

It’s the same with many superheroes tbh

@thecoolestmrprogangster

3 ай бұрын

It’s mostly the police departments problem for handling it so badly

@Shaggy87781

3 ай бұрын

@@thecoolestmrprogangster yeah but if batman arrests joker for like the 30th time, you cant keep putting the blame on the jail when batman is well aware he will get out again. First or second time? sure, not batmans fault. All the other times? entirely on batman

@stevenclark5173

3 ай бұрын

I'd say it's societies problem. People don't just wake up and decide to be come criminals and super villains. Maybe address the systemic issues that cause people to turn to crime in the first place. @@thecoolestmrprogangster

@CandleWisp

2 ай бұрын

​@@stevenclark5173 Irl, sure. Doesn't work that way in comics. Power is skewed heavily in the hands of individuals vs the system. You want to fix the system? You _need_ to remove super villains. Otherwise, it's just going to be a losing battle.

"And everybody still loses!" That line gives me chills every single time I hear it.

@johnmartin4119

5 жыл бұрын

Epicarp and is very characteristic of the many best Batman stories

@subscorpion9560

3 жыл бұрын

the definition of a pyrrhic victory

@quincywhite6871

Жыл бұрын

It gives you chills because it’s true

@Crapcarp555

Жыл бұрын

@@quincywhite6871 Damn straight.

@bestozagirl6632

Жыл бұрын

“I’ve won but at what cost”

"You found a way to win, and everybody still looses!" Strangely a running theme for the Dark Knight

@jgamer2228

Жыл бұрын

Loses*

@jeremyallen5974

Жыл бұрын

It's almost as if playing 'catch and release' with murderous sociopaths is a stupid idea....

@borisstoyanov3488

9 ай бұрын

​​@@ELIJAHNUBOYDhell yeah. I'm so tired of this. Joker is a mass murderer and Batman still keeps letting him live

@esco.reloaded

9 ай бұрын

@@ELIJAHNUBOYDIt’s because they’re both completely deranged. its a codependency situation where batman more than likely wouldnt know what to do with himself without joker

@esco.reloaded

9 ай бұрын

and vice versa

Jensen Ackles voice acting as Jason here is AMAZING

@tesserae582

9 ай бұрын

woah i never knew that was him that’s wild he’s great

@XhristianGaminX

3 ай бұрын

@@tesserae582yup Dean or aka soilder boy

@Afanof1

14 сағат бұрын

​@@XhristianGaminXI only know him for soldier boy

this scene is so well made that most people miss the point entirely lol batman isn't arguing that red hood is wrong at all, he just explains why he can't do it. and red hood proves himself wrong when he chooses to shoot batman. this isn't about justice, it's about his own feelings. if he was actually killing for the sake of justice he would have shot joker right then and there. but he shot batman instead, because that's what this is about, he's mad at batman. yes it's very easy to argue for killing joker but that's not what the scene is about at all.

@ayudivine

5 ай бұрын

Right Sir. Thank you. Also Heros don't do bad things.

@OmegaBlackHeart

4 ай бұрын

Batman in essence is basically admitting that killing may indeed just send him over the edge when he (and anyone else very familiar with the character) already has psychological issues. And if he does, there's not a lot in Gotham that could stop him.

@badrinath5306

3 ай бұрын

Nope it was abt the joker. He could have killed the joker himself before batman even made his way to him. The simplicity of the matter is Jason didn't want to kill joker he wanted batman to do it just to avenge him. The Lazarus pit turns u into a survival machine takes u back to instinct and then emotion. It sometimes cannot bring back sanity or strong logic.

@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376

3 ай бұрын

Bingo

@TeamJericho

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! As a major Red Hood fan, a lot of people misunderstand the point of the movie! It's ultimately 100% okay to side with Red Hood & wanting Batman to kill the Joker, but Batman himself, simply will not kill. Masterful 10/10 movie, crazy how Jason just let his ass get beat senseless just to lure batman into his final plan xD

Anyone else like the distinction Jason makes during this argument where he says "I'm not talking about penguin, or scarecrow. or dent, I'm taking about him JUST HIM." and it's funny cause most everyone can see that joker is probably the ONLY one bad enough to not be rehabilitated whereas Freeze is sometimes good in a few storylines, penguin is a morally grey mob boss who can make a deal or just be jailed later, but joker is the only one who kinda deserves death so why not just him. Gotta say Jason makes a very valid point.

@wesleywallace4426

Жыл бұрын

I think Jason is talking from a place of hurt. He wasn't talking to Batman; he was talking to his father. Why didn't his death not make Bruce fly into a rage after hearing what happen to him. Maybe deep down did he not actually care about him? I don't think Jason actually wanted revenge he just wanted to know that he was loved.

@tonystank3091

Жыл бұрын

Simply put, it's because it won't just stop at one. You do it once, it becomes easier to do it again. It's quite a slippery slope. That's Batman's reasoning.

@dylanjohnson4858

Жыл бұрын

@@tonystank3091 Eh that's pretty bad reasoning, I mean look at redhood, he doesn't kill civilians or people who just rob a store, but if you murder, rape, torture, or are just that bad, then yeah it's better if the world doesn't have that kind of person in it.

@tonystank3091

Жыл бұрын

@@dylanjohnson4858 In order to see where that leads, one needs only look at Superman in the Injustice timeline.

@theauthor6669

Жыл бұрын

@@tonystank3091 Injustice was tom's evil superman fantasy and he needed to find somewhere to start it also we forgot about the nuked city and dead wife and unborn child part.

If you think about it, Red Hood is doing a more effective job of cleaning up Gotham...

@Walterwhat835

10 жыл бұрын

agreed, you can't stop crime, it will always be there. Jason's solution of controlling it is way more effective.

@godzillavkk

10 жыл бұрын

Becky Martin But it could turn you into exactly what you swore to destroy.

@BardockHazar

10 жыл бұрын

Becky Martin Except innocents are still in the crossfire and hes just making a bigger body count

@crazytuner111

9 жыл бұрын

BardockHazar True, but at least he is minimizing the loss of innocent lives. You think what Batman does is effective? All he does is send criminals to prison only for them to be released or broken out again and cause even more damage. What Red Hood is doing is more realistic and responsible in a way.

@BardockHazar

9 жыл бұрын

crazytuner111 But he's completly ignoring that no indivdual should have the right to be Judge Jury and Executioner if anybody can decide who should live and die than what is the point of law in the first place. And who's to say that Red Hood wasn't just patching it while Batman has his rogues causing large problems Jason's way will only increase the street crime and that would eventually lead to increase in crime. It would blow up in his face one day and he would lose control

“It would be too damn easy” is a cold ass line.

@nonameman7114

4 ай бұрын

I still wish we would’ve gotten to hear Kevin read those lines. Greenwood did great here tho

So many people don't recognize the difference between Jason Todd and Red Hood. Jason Todd is the person saying:"I forgive you for not saving me." "Because he took me away from you." A son who didn't care that he DIED. He cared that someone hurt his dad. Red Hood is the one who says:"Why is he still alive?" "If he had taken you from this world. I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil death worshipping garbage and sent him off to hell!"

This scene is unbelievable in its quality. There aren't many scenes in Batman media, or any media for that matter, that perfectly encapsulate the theme of what they're trying to present. Hell, Bruce summed it up perfectly in an earlier scene in the movie: "He's taken everything I've ever taught him and turned it on me. It's a hell of my making, Alfred."

@sircarter2428

2 жыл бұрын

i dont believe they will ever do red hood as good as they did in this movie.

@damiendingus2539

Жыл бұрын

Red Hood did what Batman was so weak he couldn't bring himself to do coz he was afraid he'd lose himself in madness. Never happened to me.

@omarcogle1965

Жыл бұрын

@@damiendingus2539 That's because some folks are built different. What do you think would happen to Batman the moment he snap Joker's neck?

@jorgebersabe293

Жыл бұрын

@@omarcogle1965 4 words: The Batman Who Laughs.

@omarcogle1965

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgebersabe293 Exactly. It's funny how that's shown in media when Superman goes off on either Lex Luthor or the Joker if someone he loves dies, but we haven't seen a lot of media with Batman ending the Joker, except on the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover.

I'm not disappointed in Batman for not killing Joker. I'm disappointed in Red Hood for not taking the shot, and doing what the Justice system should have done a long time ago.

@battlesheep2552

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. I think it puts into context that this isn't really about the Joker and more about Jason having a tantrum because he thinks Bruce didn't love him enough.

@UromixOn

8 ай бұрын

​@@battlesheep2552To be honest, that description fits the Arkhamverse's Jason more, but I see what you mean.

@Veldazandtea

8 ай бұрын

Things are as they are. Not as they "should" be. Only weak people murder. I'm going to lay it for you boy. Young black boys are in the electric chair. This is "justice". This is "law". It starts with the excuses. It ends in child slaughter. Batman is correct here. Don't. Just. Don't.

@kyledeguzman165

7 ай бұрын

He couldn’t take the shot because Batman kept saving joker

@x-rex7236

6 ай бұрын

Im pretty sure he wants Batman to do the deed not himself. If jason kills the joker right then and now it wont be appropriate and right because Batman wont have to "redeem" himself or learn a lesson from what he should have done. If the universe have one unbreakable rule, is that The joker can only truly die by Batman, not old age or killed by someone else or Sickness

That line "Because he took me away from you" shows how much Jason loves and respects Bruce, not just as a mentor, but as a man, and a father Bruce was the only father figure Jason knew that actually gave a damn about him, cared about where he'll end up/his future. So being taken away from the person who loved you two people who love you if you count Alfred which you should id be mad too if I came back to life and learned the men I saw as a father and grandfather figure didn't avenge me and kept the man who took me away from them alive. To continue putting folks through the same crap again, and again, and again

This is still my favorite scene from any Batman movie....animated or otherwise. "I'm talking about killing him. Just him! And doing it because... because he took me away from you". Like damn man Jason is just so hurt. He feels like his dad abandoned him.

Cartoon Network vs young Justice YJ: I forgive you for cancelling me. But why? Why on gods green earth *kicks down door* is he still alive? Teen titans go: *starts laughing*

@MetalHeadManic612

7 жыл бұрын

YJ: Ignoring what he's done... Blindly, stupidly, disregarding the entire fanbase he's enraged. The thousands who have suffered. The characters he's ruined. I thought... I thought you cared about your fans.

@chucknorrisfan47

7 жыл бұрын

Michael Canessa CN: you don't understand.....I don't think you've ever understood.

@MetalHeadManic612

7 жыл бұрын

YJ: What? Your censors just won't allow for a show with good animation, likeable characters, good action and actual funny comedy? It's too hard to do any of that?

@chucknorrisfan47

7 жыл бұрын

CN: no!!! God almighty no. It'd be too easy. All I wanted to ever do was cancel shows like Teen titans go! A day doesn't go by where I don't think about cancelling it. Having the teen titans cast and producer comeback to listen to every stupid thing the studio wrote for them and making them watch it like they've forced DC fans to listen to and then......cancelling it. TTG: awwww so you do watch us. CN: but if I do that. If I allow myself to go down into that place.....I'll cancel everything thing good and bad.

@MetalHeadManic612

7 жыл бұрын

YJ: Why? I'm not talking about canceling Teen Titans forever. *points gun at TTG* I'm talking about him. Just him. I'm doing it because... Because he took me off the air.

I really love this joker. He perfectly captures the psychotic, zero-fuck-giving, essence of the Joker while still making you wanna laugh with him sometimes. He fills that small void perfectly between Hamill and Ledger's geniuses.

@connorwhiteside1518

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better!!!!!

@djk1288

Жыл бұрын

This is John DiMaggio right?

@cowradical1585

Жыл бұрын

@@djk1288 Yep, one and only

@RageUnchained

Жыл бұрын

Never thought John DiMaggio would be one of my fav jokers

@Machete87

10 ай бұрын

@@RageUnchained yea he's not too bad. Dimaggio's Joker is very demented😁😆😅

Why is no one talking about how hilarious Joker's "Party pooper. No cake for you." line is? Not only is it funny, but also shows how insane the Joker really is.

@NorydMatos

4 ай бұрын

so out of all the things he's done, the most insane thing out of them is a simple line?

@sidarth632

3 ай бұрын

@@NorydMatos No he is talking about how this insane line seems mild next to everything else he has done and said.

@chubbyninja89

3 ай бұрын

@@NorydMatos No, I'm just saying that with such a line in that sort of situation, it just shows how insane he is.

@mythosinfinite6736

3 ай бұрын

​@@chubbyninja89 ...I admire your ability to be impressed

People still don't get it, even though Batman just spelled it out here. His no-kill rule isn't tied to a moral code of sorts, it's not about morality. It's personal and tied to his own trauma and limits. If he allows himself to kill, he'll lose it, and he knows it.

@marvelmaniacs1

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'm glad people are finally starting to realize this. I hate the whole " Batman's no kill rule is stupid" because it's not only people who don't understand the no kill rule called it stupid

John Dimaggio and Mark Hamill are easily the best Jokers

@gregwhitworth8046

8 жыл бұрын

IDK, Troy Bakers was pretty good too

@koleszgdanska7149

Жыл бұрын

Troy Baker is second best.

@Ludwig142

Жыл бұрын

MICHAEL EMERSON IS THE MOST UNDERRATED JOKER EVER

@MadaraUchiha55910

Жыл бұрын

So far as animated and video game Jokers go yes but I will alwas maintain that Heath Ledger’s Joker was the GOAT

@DamianHowardTV

9 ай бұрын

John DiMaggio and Troy Baker’s Joker (Arkham Origins) are the best ones, imo. And that’s coming from someone who grew up with the 90’s animated series.

you know this scene is one of the best scenes in animaton history

@SirBelmerD

6 жыл бұрын

Nah. It's a good scene, but it doesn't leave a dent in terms of animation.

@j_stackz2731

3 жыл бұрын

Javier Belmer yes it does it gives emotions and action and sadness it’s the best scene of all animations

@realpotatochipfr

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirBelmerD the animation isn't amazing, but the scene is very very good

@myles3856

3 жыл бұрын

Good scene

@deavinwarren1412

Жыл бұрын

@@SirBelmerD it is

Jensen Ackles killed it as the voice actor for Jason.

Jason's voice acting was goated

@thenotoriousgigachad3455

Жыл бұрын

Same actor who plays Soldier Boy

@In_Thy_Flesh

Жыл бұрын

@@thenotoriousgigachad3455 he has a name ya know, Jenson Ackles

@joscar062

Жыл бұрын

@@In_Thy_Flesh Soldier Boy does a good job portraying both Red Hood and Jensen Ackles

@beaudennis51

Жыл бұрын

Dean winchester wants to kill joker lol 🤣

@njyankeesfan

11 ай бұрын

And he also did Batman in the Long Halloween.

"and then one with the cro-bar" hahahahahahaha

@RailsOfTheSouthProductions

6 жыл бұрын

Ellis F that whole part was funny

@zqninja3334

3 жыл бұрын

i laughed at that too! infront of my dad ;-;

@nathanaponte2986

2 жыл бұрын

You be as quiet as possible, or I'll put one in your lap first.

Jensen Ackles was quite literally the best voice actor for Jason so far in DC. Just embodies him perfectly.

This is turning out even better that I hoped 2:58

@genghiskhan2056

Жыл бұрын

*Batman drops gun and walks away

@greenthepokemontrainer3358

11 ай бұрын

​@@genghiskhan2056"İt's Him or Me, you have to decide!..."

@JYDY-if5rf

11 ай бұрын

@@greenthepokemontrainer3358 decide now do it him or me decide 3:15

@IPostMeAndMyFriendsRecordings

7 ай бұрын

*Batman slips a batarang into his hand

@50ksavagegoodsavage4

2 ай бұрын

​@@IPostMeAndMyFriendsRecordings *Gun exploded and Jason grunts*

The Punisher would have no trouble doing the deed.

@tylerleach8796

10 жыл бұрын

that's why Jason is better than punisher

@Legba85

10 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ. Frank would've killed Joker. No discussion or questions asked.

@thecowardford

10 жыл бұрын

Rudy Juarez Then he would've did a badass monologue in his head as he walked away.

@Legba85

10 жыл бұрын

Yeah, internal monologue. Only talks to himself, no one else. I like that.

@blackeroni

2 жыл бұрын

@@Legba85 yep, Punisher would've been real quiet about it. Joker would just suddenly vanish one day and batmans life would be way easier.

It just occurred to me. Jason calls Batman "Bruce" in front of Joker. WTF!?!? NOW HE KNOWS!

@TheWanderer39

10 жыл бұрын

Well by the looks of it he's in a closet so everything probably sounded muffled and based on his movement when jason broke down the door he looked like he was asleep or something.

@zeeamja1

10 жыл бұрын

Joker doesn't care about Batman true identity, he just was to his fun Batman.

@robsterbot2006

10 жыл бұрын

Dude... that's fucking sick. Time to read that shit xD

@tylerrichardson3034

8 жыл бұрын

***** I don't remember that scene. And I read that a few times.

@taylorbeckett9686

8 жыл бұрын

+T vampasta I read it my first time like months ago. I remember it. cause Batman found a joker card in his cave. then he brought it to Joker in prison as Bruce.

what I love about this scene is that Jason wants bruce to kill joker, he wants to know that his death had any impact on bruce and that bruce would enact justice on the joker this time. That's why Jason doesn't just shoot joker outright after showing him to bruce.

and we got clowns like Zack Snyder saying this is irrelevant or uninteresting.

@marvelmaniacs1

2 ай бұрын

Exactly and then his excuses that he wanted to challenge them. Having Batman use guns is not a challenge that makes it so easy for him. It takes away all the nuance of his character. This is a challenge for Batman because it actually hasn't come to play on what to do. What Zack Snyder did was character assassination. There's a complete difference

u cant help agreeing with Jason's logic about batman's idiotic moral code about killing. but I have a question why does gotham not have the death penalty. I mean seriously how has the justice system in gotham not condemned him to death a thousand times over by now it makes no sense. no wonder Jason todd went insane...or maybe he is the only sane one in gotham...

@TUkrLad

8 жыл бұрын

+dragonhatcher12 Well, a city itself doesn't legislate new laws. The state does.

@dragonhatcher12

8 жыл бұрын

Captain Possible even so. my point was why is gotham not seem to give out the death penalty ever most of these villians have committed genocide and at this point as soon as they are captured by batman it should of been a straight shot to the fireing squad no waiting or jail just literally point and shoot him in the head,

@davidtrotter8125

8 жыл бұрын

+dragonhatcher12 In the comics, it's said that the Joker has a dream team of lawyers that manage to help him avoid the death penalty and just land back in Arkham Asylum

@nifralo2752

8 жыл бұрын

+dragonhatcher12 Well in real life America they don't always give put the death penalty to people even when they the chance to, like ironically the guy behind the Batman Massacre killed like 12 people including a 6 year old and was jailed and not condemned to death.

@dragonhatcher12

8 жыл бұрын

Toad Lash I thought they did kill that guy well gotham villians always escape from prison and then get caught and still never get exterminated. but yah that is ridicous that guy is still alive glad to know my tax dollars payin for a worthless justice system that doesn't believe in the death penalty want happen to firing squads screw this lethal injection crap shoot the bastards In the head or go real medieval like a beheading that way they can keep using the same axe and not wast tax money

"I do it because, because he took me away from you" His voice was just down right bout to cry, they managed the best guy for Jason

Jensen Ackles could have easily won an Oscar for this performance. His acting is some of the best in any DC animated film in this scene.

"I'm not talking about killing Penguin, or Scarecrow, or Dent! I'm talking about _him!_ JUST *_HIM!"_* I like this quote. It shows that while Red Hood is perfectly fine with killing, he still understands restraint. Sure, it's more out of a motivation for avenging his death by a specific person's hands, but I think that if Jason went up against more sympathetic villains like Two-Face & Mr. Freeze, he may not kill them because they're not truly deserving of death. Dent was a good man who was genuinely broken, he deserves to be saved. And Freeze's motivations were almost always toward curing his wife Nora, what he needs is either extensive therapy and counciling to accept that Nora simply can't be saved, or help with developing the cure he's been so desperate to find. Neither one of them deserve a bullet through the brain while monsters like Joker, Victor Zsasz, and Professor Pyg absolutely need to be put down before they inevitably hurt another innocent person.

@ShowNoHajimarida-ri5zd

6 ай бұрын

It's ironic, because Two-Face was Jason's _original_ to-kill-or-not-to-kill rogue, back when he was Robin. He was the one who'd killed Jason's parents.

@mahersalthomas1739

4 ай бұрын

Penguin is a crime lord?? And definitely a bad dude like bane. Killer croc??

@Crimson_Sun2486

4 ай бұрын

@@mahersalthomas1739 The worst Penguin deserves is maximum security lockup, same with Bane. But frankly, what crock deserves is to just be treated better. He wasn't always a monster, people just acted like he was until he just accepted it. At the very least, he should maybe have his bad memories erased so it may be easier to transition him into being more of a good guy

The Joker's facial expressions are priceless. He is loving every second of this.

@vorabee1847

8 ай бұрын

So do we. So do we.

Jenson Ackles does an excellent job voicing Jason here.

This scene makes sense after A Death in the Family. Jason's conscience is running wild on him, trying to dictate him on who to kill. He could've just killed the joker like he said he was going to if Batman wouldn't, but his mind was telling him to point his gun at Batman for turning his back on him in that moment.

He dropped the gun and walked away. Sounds like a decision to me.

This scene always hits me because, in my opinion, both sides are valid. If Batman HAD ended the Joker sooner, instead of just leaving him to the authorities, the graveyards would have very well been a LOT less crowded, Jason Todd wouldn't have been killed, and Barbara Gordon wouldn't have been crippled from the waist down. On the other hand, if Batman takes that action...how would he ever trust himself not to do it again? First time's always the hardest, and after that, it gets easier. And easier. And before you know it he's painting Gotham in the same amount of red as the very villains he swore to protect Gotham from. Though one can make some counter-points against Batman's side of things, such as his years of martial arts training should have given him the discipline and mental fortitude to make logical judgements as to who to kill and who not to. Some could even say that the whole "It would be too easy" scene is just him saying "I have zero self-control"

@stubbystudios9811

Жыл бұрын

Well it’s shown it’s taken so much of him to control. He’s made it his habit to control himself. Once that slope is crossed it turns into an avalanche. But yeah totally agree

@Tera_GX

Жыл бұрын

Your comment makes me realize that none of the "normal people" are a part of the discussion of murdering Joker. Surely most people around Joker when he is being detained would also think about the possibility of killing him. Sometimes the corruption of Gotham is described as reaching the police too, sometimes the police are presented as a symbol of being more untainted than Batman since they stay within the law. Somewhere in that spectrum, this could be explored well in a story.

@jeremiahbates1870

Жыл бұрын

I just think Bruce needs to stop saving him when he's about to get it in the neck. Like at this point I'm not rooting for him to kill the joker but the logic in the books that he has to save him baffles me sometimes. Or at the very least hes a detective and Gordon is commissioner I'm sure they have plenty of evidence that pretty much guarantees the state puts joker down. I get comic book logic isn't real logic but sometimes it's a bit tiresome in instances like this.

@Veldazandtea

8 ай бұрын

Only weak people murder. Strong people seek to teach. Inspire.

@kamenriderblastknight2226

7 ай бұрын

I would like to point out that batman isn't fully mentally stable either, he knows hence the no kill rule and has a grip on his sanity but if he intentionally takes a fellow person's life, understandable circumstances or not, he doesn't trust himself to stop after that one time I don't fully like the no kill rule, I understand why it's there but sometimes you have to make a choice that you will have no other option but to kill

I see why Dent says “you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villian”.

@AllardRT

Жыл бұрын

Jason somehow managed to do both.

@justnotme6886

11 ай бұрын

​@@AllardRTnever thought bout this, but yeah this is true 😅😅

@Shaggy87781

3 ай бұрын

@@AllardRT jason isnt a villain, hes completely justified and right imo

@safcjoe7062

3 ай бұрын

​@@Shaggy87781shooting bruce despite bruce letting him kill Joker lmao

@Shaggy87781

3 ай бұрын

@@safcjoe7062 yeah because bruce is also a villain. not to mention i interpreted it as a fit of rage, not actually red hood wanting to kill batman. I mean, his suit is bullet proof and jason knows this

3:12 but that's the thing Jason. He won't stop you from pulling the trigger. You can have your revenge. What you're trying to do... Maybe he should have done it himself. But that has to be a choice. You can't force him to. Despite being your father...he's still his own person.

@enterprisewhiskey8999

Жыл бұрын

Do Jason and dick exist together or are they two separate characters in different versions of Batman?

@JabamiLain

Жыл бұрын

@@enterprisewhiskey8999 same universe.

1:50 That sounds like a skill issue. Dispuite everything Batman is that mentally unstable

@adampatterson2195

Жыл бұрын

I always thought it was more about Bruce being unable to become the thing that took away his parents.

@YAHSHUA777

3 ай бұрын

​​@@adampatterson2195 to Bruce, it isn't just a some fancy moral code. Bruce made to his himself, his parents on their graves 🪦, and everyone he loves, maybe it's not something you would commit to or admire. But for someone like bruce, it's everything he lives, trains, and strives to be. The best he can be, and if he isn't that then, he can't be anything at all.

I'm a huuuuge Batman fan but on this one, I have to side with Jason. Sometimes the good guys have to do bad things to make the bad guys pay. Simple as that. Justice in it's purest form cannot be delivered with exceptions or moral codes. It's raw, ugly, monstrous maybe, but when need be, it must be done.

@DoctorMountain

7 жыл бұрын

Batman said it himself, he cannot let himself do what he actually wants to do, or he'd become the monster he is trying to fight. If he were to use all of his resources available to him to simply murder every villain, he would be the most terrifying individual Gotham has ever seen. That is something that he just cannot allow himself to become.

@Orsonfoe

Жыл бұрын

I half agree. I think joker is to far gone to help and to dangerous let love but I don't think Brice should kill him. I want the people of Gotham to do is cause the could so easily do it but prefer to leave evwyup to the dark night. He clean up the mess than we some happens they can blame him.

@aduboo29

Жыл бұрын

Once you allow yourself to be the arbiter of where the line is of someone being 'too far gone for help' you give yourself permission to move the line. How long until the other villains Jason listed are 'too far gone' as well? Batman exists to protect people, not to deliver justice. He's not the jury, not the judge and not the executioner. And it would be a dangerous road to go down to allow himself to be so.

@Orsonfoe

Жыл бұрын

@@aduboo29 never said Batman was. I said the city should do it. I'm not saying we shouldnt try to help the villain since they are broken people but there need to be a limit. We can only do so much for some one who is constantly braking out and killing people just to make a point to Batman.

@drelezar7745

Жыл бұрын

Well it’s less “To make the bad guys pay” than it should be “To stop anymore innocent lives from being taken”. If you take the revenge route you’re turning into exactly what Batman fear- but if Bruce simply (I know it’s not this simple) changed his mentality to saving innocent lives rather than revenge, he’d have a much easier time taking out Joker

So for those of you that don't understand Bruce, let me give you a scenario in the form of Superman that most of you may know, in Injustice Clark never killed anyone before, he went through torture just as Bruce in case of Bruce as Jason, Clark's was that the joker made him kill both Lois and his unborn child. He was so furious and agitated he killed Joker once, and he never stopped...same with Bruce, when people say he is batshit insane they aren't exaggerating inside of Bruce is still a boy crying for his parents behind the mean demeanor, he never got over it, in the canon flashpoint comics he cried for the first time reading Thomas's letter, he is crazy like Joker, the point of Batman vs Joker as his archenemy is both are insanely similiar, both are equally crazy the only one difference between Joker and Batman is that Bruce refused to go down the path of going the easy way and killing people, take that away he's no better than the Joker. The moment Bruce kills anybody I guarantee he won't be coming back the moment someone kills someone and knows it's justified they have a sense of it's not that bad, Bruce knows this, and he knows he'll enjoy killing,but he doesn't want to. So when this happens it means Joker wins even if he dies he wins, because he broke the bat, no matter what Bruce will never turn on his ways, because he knows what he's capable of.

@kinsmart7294

Жыл бұрын

There are various anti-heroes that kill bad guys and don't turn into evil dictators that kill all who stand against them. Executing criminals was really common an just an century ago, judges and executors didn't suddenly became evil caricatures.

@Ixhor_

Жыл бұрын

@@kinsmart7294 where talking about Batman tho, not some random guy.

@archiecrawley16

Жыл бұрын

@@kinsmart7294 that’s different though Batman is not an anti hero

@keyow2

Жыл бұрын

@@kinsmart7294 Some of them did. When you take someone as deranged as Batman and have them take a life. There are some who cannot stop afterwards. Hell there were serial killers who’s first murder was a crime of passion which ended up turning into a spree. It makes sense.

@brogiesullivan3764

Жыл бұрын

But. Batman has killed before..

Everyone thinks batman is weak but it takes a strong man to admit to himself that he will lose control if he allows himself that moment of revenge

@zoharborage6609

2 ай бұрын

Batman is a legit psycho. Literally he shouldn't kill.

"And doing it because... because he took me away from you." Jason sounds so much like a teenager here, the one that died and suffered. Not in the sense that it's childish or that Jason is failing to understand what Bruce means. It's a son who wants his father's love and felt like he loved his father more than his father loved him when his father let his killer walk free. Jason was right in many ways - the moral code is stupid and something only Bruce can obtain (and Bruce heavily straddles that line himself). But to know that a moral code stood in the way of your father getting justice for you, even if he is Batman, and he never did it, and he knows you would have crossed that line for him a long time ago.. it would break anyone's heart.

@carolusrex5213

Жыл бұрын

I so think people also forget that in the og Death In The Family Comic it does seem heavily implied that he might have killed the Joker if he had been given the chance but the Joker got away

Jason is the after-product of what happens when Joker goes too far and kills someone close to Batman. I usually love Batman, and I still do. But Jason is right here: The Joker needed to pay for killing Jason, and I'm mad at Batman for not killing him, even though he says he wants to. Batman is usually shown as this invincible superhero that always wins, but in reality, he had to deal with the loss of Jason, and now he has to deal with the loss of Damian. People say he's an invincible hero that always wins, but I don't believe that. Sure, he may always win, but it comes at the price of losing your family, and in this case, it's his parents, it was Jason, and now it's Damian. In some aspects, I love Red Hood more than I do Batman, because Bruce isn't willing to kill, but Jason is. And Jason is the way he is because Batman won't kill. And that's why I prefer Red Hood over Nightwing, when it comes to favorite Robins. I mean, Nightwing is cool and all, don't get me wrong, but to me, Red Hood is the better one not because of his personality, or his choice of weapon, or even his outfit; it's because of his backstory and origin of why he is the way he is, and when you think about it, it's understandable he is the way he is because of what happens, Lazarus Pit or not. Red Hood's popularity is said to come from the fact that he's just an anti-hero who uses guns, or is just plain different from the other Robins, but I like him because his entire Red Hood persona comes from the fact that Batman doesn't kill, and unless Batman starts killing (which is highly unlikely), or Red Hood forgets about his days as Robin (haven't been keeping up with Red Hood and the Outlaws FYI), this will never change, and that is what makes this story arc one of the best Batman movies, hell one of the best DC Comics animated movies ever, in my opinion at least. Red Hood is one of my favorite anti-heroes/heroes and my favorite Robin, and I seriously hope he gets more screentime in the future, whether it be in movies, video games, or tv shows. Hell, if in the future, Red Hood and Batman ever team up again for whatever reason (except for a bullcrap reason like what happened in Batman and Red Hood #20), then I will be pleased because as much as Red Hood is angry at Batman for not killing Joker, I feel that Red Hood should still be apart of the Bat Family, regardless of whether he kills or not.

@leon4000

10 жыл бұрын

I do agree with you up to a certain point. Still if Batman did kill Joker, yeah it will give Gotham a huge favor, but there is no telling what Batman would do next if he decided to kill the bad guys. Because revenge just doesn't stop like that, it could grow. And you can't leave out the other heroes perceptions of Batman doing that act, especially Superman and other allies in this what if scenario. Thing is, the real truth is that the battle between good and evil is seemingly never-ending. Even if the worst criminals in the DC universe died by the hands of the good guys, it wouldn't be the real end of the villains, they'll find a way to pop right back up and cause trouble again. Its easy to kill, but the action still has an effect in more ways than you realize, and even if someone would let it slide, how many people will start thinking a bit differently if they knew their ally started killing from now on and as a result, some may have no problem, but others may still have a problem, to the point they fear their hero may become an imminent threat more worst than other villains should he or she turn into a villain or at least something more radical and that concern turns to fear. Now I know I've seen a lot of super heroes who have done it already or attempted to kill. And it is hard to not do it because a villain does more crimes not only to the citizens but the heroes loved ones. I almost forgot that when it came to the Joker, many times he deserved death row, many times the justice system in the DC World was too weak to even see that insanity provided too much a dang cover for Joker to eventually get out of arkham and kill again, since he is aware of what he's doing. Also, Jason should have shot Joker anyway in this scene, at least Batman wouldn't have to do it, but he turn his gun on Batman, and Bats anticipated that. Well at least the two of us have our opinions, I know I wanted Joker dead at times when he does that s**t in the comics, TV, and games, but let someone else do it, the Justice system could have sentenced him Joker to death many times, and there's someone else who wanted Joker's head, but Batman shouldn't have to especially if he does have reasons. Well its what my opinion, and it is interesting to see what others have to say.

@FlareVortex

10 жыл бұрын

leon4000 Oh yeah, that was my only problem with the movie: Jason should have just shot and killed Joker right then and there, but at the same time I understand why he didn't, because he wanted Batman to do it so Jason can have a sense of relief, knowing his mentor and adopted father got revenge for Jason's death. On another related note, *SPOILERS* The Joker died in Batman: Arkham City. *END SPOILERS* And with Joker gone in Batman: Arkham Knight, taking place one year after Arkham City, I RRREEEEEEEAAALLLLYYYYYY want to see Jason Todd/Red Hood in Arkham Knight and his reaction to Joker's death. He must probably be the only person that's not a civilian to be happy about this. I REALLY hope Red Hood is in Arkham Knight XD

@TheWraithOfMooCow

10 жыл бұрын

Flare Vortex I highly doubt the joker is really dead.

@FlareVortex

10 жыл бұрын

Bringing him back from the dead in Arkham Knight would make the ending of AC completely pointless, and Rocksteady isn't stupid enough to actually bring him back :P

@Lem0ninX

10 жыл бұрын

Batman's moral code is bullshit. In reality he isn't helping much. Most of the villains kill innocent civilians. That's why Jason is a better batman imo.

This movie was an absolute masterpiece. It perfectly captured Batman. Jensen Eckles did an absolutely fantastic job as Red Hood. Joker was insanely good. The dialogues sent chills down my spine. This movie has a lot of emotional depth to it and that's what I love. The execution, the layout it was perfect.

@zperk13

Жыл бұрын

What movie is it?

@joscar062

Жыл бұрын

@@zperk13 Under the red hood

@joscar062

Жыл бұрын

*Ackles

@theauthor6669

Жыл бұрын

*Soldier Boy

“Party pooper no cake for you”😂

0:30 that would’ve been a fire picture

@Eyeofthetiger69

Жыл бұрын

Just like the warehouse Jason died in.

@greenthepokemontrainer3358

11 ай бұрын

​@@Eyeofthetiger69bruh....

@Lucashoshino

6 ай бұрын

0:31

@altalia07

3 ай бұрын

@@Eyeofthetiger69DUDE😭

@purpleskin3096

Ай бұрын

​@@greenthepokemontrainer3358 honestly you can't get mad this is what to expect 😂

This movie was surprisingly great. Jensen Ackles does an amazing job voicing the Red Hood throughout... but especially in this scene. Just, wow. DiMaggio does a pretty insane Joker here too.

@prodigy2652

Жыл бұрын

damn i didn’t even realize it was Jensen

@blackbulls8783

Жыл бұрын

Jensen ackles needs to do more voice acting

@jamesvanitas

Жыл бұрын

@@blackbulls8783 He’s also on “The Boys” if you’re interested

@abigbutterstick1780

Жыл бұрын

​@@jamesvanitas he was phenomenal in the Boys, spoiler I seriously doubt he's dead, they didn't kill Homelander because of his popularity so I'd be surprised in SB is gone, he immediately became a fan favorite.

@seanchukwuezi3079

11 ай бұрын

John DiMaggio was also outstanding and funny as fuck as the joker he is actually the only joker portrayal that actually makes me laugh he has great lines and delivery its probably his comedic background he is probably the most diva joker 😅

This scene is a piece of art Jason" this is all its been about, you me and him" Bravo!! The very essence of that decision in a limited amount of time is the true moral of the story. Nothing can compare to this God i love this.

Jason is 100% correct here.

@florineala

Жыл бұрын

think of this scene and compare it to the Miller's Dark knight returns as Batsy finally does the job

John DiMaggio's an underrated as hell joker, he did a great job

"Pathetic pile of death worshiping garbage" oh that line is like a juicy set of beef ribs. In a word perfection. 👌👏

Masterfully done scene. It just brings so much depth to Robin and Batman. Well, done writers...well done.

"Gotta give the boy points." MY GOD John DiMaggio was brilliant as Joker.

0:17 im sry, the way the joker scooted up on the chair KILLED me

It’s unsettling how well John DiMaggio plays the Joker. I still prefer Mark Hamill but in this one movie he definitely came close to capturing the Clown Prince of Crime’s insanity just as well.

3:28 Batman dodged a fucking bullet after it was fired,just a human my ass,the plot armor is his greatest strength

@TheSilvernuke

9 жыл бұрын

Im thinking he was prepared to move before the bullet was fired, and that they moved at the same time.

@EpidemicPain

9 жыл бұрын

***** That would imply he moved at the speed of sound

@DBfan106

9 жыл бұрын

Epidemic Pain Bullets don't move at the speed of sound. he predicted the bullet would be fired and because his reflexes are trained to the limit he was able to move as soon as the trigger was being pulled.

@EpidemicPain

9 жыл бұрын

DBfan106 The bullet already left the chamber before batman even started moving,its not physically possible for a human to dodge that No matter how good your reflexes are

@DBfan106

9 жыл бұрын

Epidemic Pain comic book logic.

This and flashpoint are some of the best bodies of work DC ever put out . Thank you

Seen this many times and keep getting in awwww.....the acting chemistry between the 3 is beautiful.

2:30 Uh...Jason how do I hold this?

"party pooper, no cake for you." that was the cutest thing ever!

Lets be honest, Bender makes an amazing Joker

2:45 joker is smiling even when he is being held at gunpoint 😂😂

Honestly, this may be the best superhero movie ever made

I know Batman's no kill rule is important to him, but I agree with Jason 100%

3:48 I fucking love that line

@johnmartin4119

5 жыл бұрын

Dr. Gundeath Punchface-enstein it strangely sums up a lot of the tragedy of Batman where most of his victories come with a great sacrifice

Jason is such a cool type of character to me because its a very specific kind of irony used to pull on the heartstrings and question the character themselves in a way I've only really seen in something like Vergil from Devil may cry. anti hero eventually working for/as the enemy they originally wanted to stop. In dmc its Vergil becoming everything that Mundus was (power hungry and obsessed with defeating anyone in their way), here its Jason helping joker break batman and forcing him to break his rule. Both times its completely unbeknownst to them as well

3:40 always cracks me up

@JoelitoStriker

Ай бұрын

3:38

Joker: Bite my shiny white skin ass.

@keyboardspam9168

8 жыл бұрын

I thought you were Asian.

@giggityking6505

8 жыл бұрын

I am. I was just trying to tell a joke about how John Dimaggio voices the Joker. He also voiced Bender in Futurama, and he always saids, "Bite my shiny metal ass."

@giggityking6505

7 жыл бұрын

***** YES

“You don’t understand. I don’t think you’ve *ever* understood.” It’s true. It isn’t a matter of if Batman’s morales are right, or if Jason is. It’s not a matter of how deserving Joker is of death. It’s a matter of Batman being the one who does it. The promise he made. Batman exists because he wants to help people, because he wants to punish criminals, and because he doesn’t want anyone to feel the pain of having someone they love taken away from them. And no matter how much he wants to, Batman knows that killing someone, even Joker, would make him what he hates. A murderer. And that isn’t what he wants. It isn’t what his parents would want. And it’s not what he thinks Gotham deserves. Edit: it’s annoying how many people are assuming that I’m saying Batman is right, when all I’m doing is explaining his viewpoint. For the record, I agree more with Redhood, but that’s not the point of this comment.

@syllvenwoodblah6655

Жыл бұрын

but you do realize Batman used to kill all kinds of bad guys all the time and pretty brutally too

@Indigo_1001

Жыл бұрын

@@syllvenwoodblah6655 No… he haven’t. Stop spreading that misinformed bullshit. In the Golden age, aka his first appearance, he did kill… for a whole 1 and a half years. After that Robin was quickly introduced and the character having the “no kill rule” have been cemented to him in the following 80 years.

@syllvenwoodblah6655

Жыл бұрын

@@Indigo_1001 so....he used to kill just like is said, yes it wasnt very long but he did kill

@Orsonfoe

Жыл бұрын

@@syllvenwoodblah6655 yeah he used to kill had Gatling guns. But that no longer part of his establish lore. One down side with america comic is all the redone,reboots,new age what ever things are constantly being changed. So we'll yes the Batman character as killed most of it if not all of it is not connon or weird one offs.

@Indigo_1001

Жыл бұрын

@@syllvenwoodblah6655 But that’s not part of his identity or lore at all, stop using that lame ass excuse yo change the established character. Specially since it’s a small fraction of the character 80years+ history. It’s as dumb as having a Superman that can’t fly and only jumps really high like in the Bronze Age. Flying is essential to Superman character, same with Batman not killing,

"Ahhh so you do think about me." 😂

John DiMaggio's more gruff voice really does make a great Joker

@FierceDeity35

9 ай бұрын

He's still Jake the dog.

Party pooper, no cake for you XD

Honestly agree with Red Hood more than Batman here. Batman has allowed thousands of people to die by allowing Joker to live over and over again. His "no kill rule" really doesn't take into account the fact that mass murderers don't value their lives and lack redemption.

@randommanny7659

7 жыл бұрын

Batman doesn't kill Joker, because he knows that after that act he would do it again, not for his rule.. He says that dude

@93ImagineBreaker

7 жыл бұрын

Then let someone just kill him already

@ValeTheOwl

7 жыл бұрын

It's not Batman's fault. Batman doesn't kill, PERIOD. If anything is the justice system that is to blame. Batman periodically capture the Jocker and gives him to the authorities, and they NEVER give Jocker the death sentence. Batman wouldn't save the Joker if he was put on the electric chair by the legal system. Heck, he would probably record the whole thing and play it every night, just before sleeping.

@93ImagineBreaker

7 жыл бұрын

ValeTheHowl it is his fault

@deadpoolrockz6410

7 жыл бұрын

93ImagineBreaker No one wants to kill the villians because writers want them alive to entertain the fans for as long as possible, until they have no use for them. Reason why no ine writes a story about the people of Gotham forming a mob, storm Arkham and shoot all the villians between the eyes. In fact if the writers had Jason shoot Joker instead of writing him to turn the gun on batman, Joker would be dead like Jason promised.

Jason wasn’t wrong for wanting the Joker dead, he was wrong in that he tried to force somebody else to pull the trigger rather than take it into his own hands. Anybody who tries to force somebody else to kill on the behest is a coward plain and simple

I like the angle this movie took on Batmans code. Instead of simply not wanting to take even a single life because he believes any sort of killing is wrong, Bruce admits that he isn't above corruption. He believes he wouldn't have the self control to just stop at just killing the Joker. That he may end up killing low level thugs because it would be so much easier than capturing them and he'd become desensitized to the concept of killing. If he did believe he had that self control, he probably would have killed the Joker, but he knows he is a deeply disturbed man who could very well snap if he gets a taste of blood. This movie is so damn good. One of the rare few that directly confronts Batmans no killing rule and puts it into question.

Jason Todd has a point. No matter how many times Joker put in the asylum, he breaks out and kill people again, and again, and again, and AGAIN until you realize he is a monster.

1:41 awww so you do think about me 😌😏 Lmaoo 😂

This is just amazing because of the conflicting sides it’s just so well written

Jensen makes an incredible VA, great depiction of Jason

I gotta love this scene in this movie. Batman and Jason just having an emotional moment here and Joker just ruining it with his constant joking of the situation. Such a Joker move here. It’s funny and yet frightening to think about

10 years later and this movie is still great

Don't blame Batman. He's not the one who keeps letting Joker and everyone out of Arkym

I remember I watched this movie with my papa when it came out, and we were expecting a typical action movie but were so pleasantly surprised to find it to be a drama about the relationship between Batman and Robin. So good.