UPDATE: I have since changed to the 4 inch risers, the video linked shows where i rerouted the parking brake / clutch cable kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6GLuJZuYZnXpdo.html

@TB-ue2kw

2 жыл бұрын

@ontherebel11 did you sell you Voight risers? (German made risers) I would be interested in purchasing it from you

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@TB-ue2kw Hi TB! I had considered getting the Voight risers but ended up getting the rox risers instead. The 3 inch risers will be going to a friend in my area, sorry about that...

@albertsanchez8007

2 жыл бұрын

Did switching to 4 inch risers require longer M6 bolts and spacers?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertsanchez8007 hi Albert, not at all, I used the same screws and spacers that I used for the 3 inch risers! 👍

@theunamericansportsman4726

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 I installed the three inch risers and was able to use the stock bolts with spacers

Just throwing in a thank you as I just put rox 3's on tonight and this was super helpful. I ended up having to take the headlight out and re-route the brake lever/master cylinder and parking brake (totally not enough length on mine to keep the p-brake routed how it was, same for front brake lever). I need to get spacers yet for the cluster but I'm excited. Thanks again!

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Great hearing from you Locum, i'm so happy that the video was helpful to you, That video is what started the channel, the video was too large for Facebook so a member of the group said to upload it to KZread servers hahahaha. true story. really appreciate the feedback about your experience!!!

Good day, finally after many different options I installed the 4 inch pivot risers. What a tremendous difference in handling and comfort.

@ontherebel11

4 ай бұрын

Hi Daniel! So good to hear from you man! I'm so happy you got them installed, now you know why I love my so much more after adding the risers! So much more comfortable! 🙏

Wanted to thank you for all of your help the last couple of days. I got the project all done, 4" risers and added a National Cycle windscreen as my Puig connected to the handlebars and after install I cut the excess material off the rods so did not have enough length to use is with the bars back. I got the large screen and its pretty big so I may get the short one for summer.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Fantastic news Jim! Thank you for the update brother! Did you have to dismantle the parking brake assembly?

@salorjim1000

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 No, I had it in the parking brake on position to get to the screws so I tried it in the off position and it was still kind of tight but I did manage to pull it through.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@salorjim1000 fantastic news! Congratulations brother! 👌

Thank you!! I couldn’t have done it with out you. I got risers on and cables routed. Love the Rebel , love the videos.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Outstanding Nate! I'm glad you found it helpful! FYI, it is the riser's that started the KZread channel! So everything was still being figured out back then, hence the scattered info on multiple videos. Thank you for your kind encouraging words brother! 🙏 In all honesty, I would have sold the bike had I not been able to sort out the riding position.... Today I am on my way back from my 3,000 mile trip, wish I could go for another 10,000 miles! Love this bike!

Hola, buenas noches y como siempre: agradezco mucho tus experiencias tan bien reflejadas en tus vídeos. Finalmente recibí mi Rebel 1100 y (tan previsor como estúpido que soy) tenía ya en casa -ademas de los separadores y los tornillos- las alzas de 2'', las de 3'' y las de 4''. Si señor, tengo las tres medidas😂. Empecé probando por la de 2'', genial la desconexión del cuenta km y ponerlo por fuera del manillar. Genial también la solución de sacar el cableado de dentro de las torretas hacia afuera. Sin embargo también tuve que redireccionar el cable del embrague por dentro de las torretas (lo digo porque las personas que tienen cambio manual también deberán hacerlo). La línea de freno sigue en su sitio, aunque he doblado el alambre que lo soporta para ofrecer menos tirantez y he recorrido un centimetro hacia adentro el conjunto depósito-maneta de freno. Yo lo veo aún un poco tenso a pesar de haber puesto solo los elevadores de 2'' (no los he metido entre las horquillas) aunque hay dos mecánicos de confianza que me dicen que está bien. Agradezco muchísimo tus vídeos y lo sabes. Poco puedo añadir, pero creo que el cableado no es igual en la automática que en la manual, del mismo modo que creo que los fabricantes, conforme pasa el tiempo, van ahorrando en materiales y si ahorran un par de pulgadas de cada cable de cada moto al final supongo que será un ahorro importante para la fabricación. Conclusión: 1- Agradecerte tus aportaciones sin las cuales no lo hubiera hecho yo mismo. 2- La moto con los elevadores de 2'' ha mejorado mi posición en un 30%. 3- Para obtener tu 100% seguramente deberé poner las alzas de 4'', pero eso lo dejamos para un poquito después. Un abrazo.

Thank you for this vid!! I have a rebel 300 and planning on upgrading to 1100. I test drove one and realized bar is wider and my arms are a bit stretched. I would probably need to adjust the bar to make it more closer to me. This vid is very useful.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you found it useful, it was definitely very helpful for me to install risers, it is soooooo much more comfortable and easier to maneuver at slow speeds and tight spaces.

Thanks again man! Been checking these pivoting risers out for sportster, lol.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Any time brother! Fyi, I switched to 4 inch risers. I wouldn't have been able to keep the bike if I didn't install the risers!

@genoapb

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 yeah I actually just went from forwards and 7 inch tall bars to mids and drag bars but it's a little too far forward now. I was looking into something that would give me a little adjustability and came across these. I also discovered some peg mounts that allow some more adjustability to the riding position. I'm hoping to pickup both tomorrow. Thanks for another very detailed and informative video!

Hello, thank you for your very informative video. I really want to put 4" risers on very soon.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi There Moto Cat, nice of you to stop by!!! I highly recommend adding risers, it makes the bike so much more comfortable!! i can't recommend them highly enough!

I started this procedure but I'm stuck on lifting out the handlebars after removing top clamp. They are in there really tight, and liquid wrench no help. Any suggestions??

hey guys Ive got a question. I am mid process of installing my 2" Rox pivoting risers. Mine are not angled forward as yours and sit right above the lower bolts. Any ideas how of to get those torqued down if the new supports are sitting directly over them

@ontherebel11

10 ай бұрын

Hi Justin, you could rotate the down, torque the top bolts then use a rubber mallet to rotate them back up and torque down the other set. you could also get a snub nose allen key set.

Hello, can you help me, the risres has 22mm, and the handlebar is 25mm. It fixes well? the rox kit comes with the pieces do enlarge the diameter to fix it well

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Rui, I'm terribly sorry my friend, my comprehension is letting me down. I haven't seen the particular risers you are referring to, is there any chance you could share a link of the rox risers you are referring to?

I finally got around to ordering my Rox risers but I need to pickup the replacement screws and spacers for them. It appears that the links above no longer work. Would you be able to tell me the length and type (such as socket head cap screw) of the M6 screws you needed and also the diameter of the spacers? I know they are 30mm and 15mm long but are they 10mm outside diameter?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi John! Sorry about the links I meant to update them.... The screws can be either a pan head or socket head just as long as they M6 x 1 mm and at least 55 mm long. The spacers need to be 0.257 inch inside diameter x 0.5 outside diameter with the desired length. Good luck with the install and please reach out to me if you have any questions brother! 🤙

Thank you for making this video!!!

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

My Pleasure!

A wonderfully detailed video! Thank You. I wonder if you could address the placement of the handlebars after your adjustments as it relates to interfering with the gas tank. Also was there plenty of slack for the parking brake cable? I didn't see if you installed the plastic cover back on.

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much Ron for your kindness! here is a video discussing the clearance. Regarding the parking brake, no issues at all or no modifications needed for up to 3 inch risers! The plastic cover goes back on just like stock configuration, no adjustments needed. I hope this helps! let me know if you have any other questions that i didn't cover. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pqeMpruThrzLZNY.html

Do you have a video on how you re-routed the brake line?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Berlin, here is the video of how to reroute the front brake line, an easier way is to move the headlight out of the way and route the master cylinder as a whole unit through the gap between the forks. Unfortunately I don't have a video on rerouting the parking brake for the DCT kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYmBzs6gh82ul6w.html

Great video!! Extremely helpful. It's nice to know that there is enough wire slack to accommodate 3" risers. May I ask how tall are you? Did you get the Rebel seat that pushes you forward, if so, does it help much? I am getting my Rebel 1100 hopefully within the next 2 weeks. Last questions, how do you like the Honda saddle bags? Thank you so much for your videos!!

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi ryker rydes! Thank you Ma'am! The 4 inch risers are a game changer for me! I am 5'7 with shorter than average arms, so the risers were a must! I tried the forward seat, but they are only good for 30 minutes before the pain sets in, after trying out 2 reupholstered seats, the mustang and Corbin, the Corbin wins for long distance touring comfort. The Honda saddlebags are good, but I'm using the SW motech legend bags, 15,000 miles on them, love them so much I got a seconds set of the smaller ones! 🤣🤣

Do you have to change and break lines or anything else for 2 inches risers for this project.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Boyd, you won't need to change any lines, but it would be much better to reroute the front brake line as I did. You don't have to bleed the brake line, you can remove the headlight and reroute the front brake assembly through the forks, I go over how it's done in another video of the risers Playlist 👍

Do you think i could make these fit on a 2021 rebel 300 abs? your setup looks pretty much the same as mine.

@ontherebel11

Ай бұрын

The concept is definitely applicable, but I'm not sure of the dimensions though...

Great video, as always, but I am CONFUSED about which risers to buy. I depend on an expert to install, and the 2" risers I ordered previously could not be installed: mechanic said they would stretch the brake line to much, and recommended against installing longer brake line. For a 2200 1100 DCT, could you please recommend ONE BRAND? For me, important because I am 5' 4" and have to lean forward................... thanks very much

@ontherebel11

8 ай бұрын

Hi David, regardless of which length risers your get 2, 3 or 4 inches, it is best to install a brake line extension. I am sorry that the mechanic is not cooperating with you. I use Rox pivoting risers and i would recommend 4 inches for your height. The brake line extension i use is custom made by spiegler brake lines. If you decide to go that route, i will be happy to provide additional information regarding the brake line to order.

Are the longer screws and spacers needed for the gauge cluster to be able to go back in? Can the OEM bolts be re-used at all for this?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi there! Yes, you will definitely need spacers and longer screws, they are the key to this project. 🤙

The spacers are now discontinued by Grainger. Does anyone know of alternative sources to purchase these spacers ?

@ontherebel11

7 ай бұрын

Check this site out, order the appropriate length M6 Spacer. This is the part number for the 30 mm 7298N122 www.mcmaster.com/products/spacers/spacers~/polyethylene-unthreaded-spacers/

Once again, thank you for your clear and concise videos.... I'm in process of adding 2" risers from Vox, per your suggestion. Having removed the 2 top clamps with 6mm allen and torque wrench, I cannot get the handlebars to come up out of the bottom clamps?? Rubber mallet doesn't jar it loose....... afraid to hit too hard? What to do?

@ontherebel11

8 ай бұрын

Hi David! If you have removed both top clamps, continue to use the rubber mallet, it will let go soon. There is nothing holding it there except surface tension. Alternate striking it on both left and right side and make sure you are prepared to brace it when it gives way, the bars are deceivingly heavier than they appear 🤙

@davidcongleton3372

8 ай бұрын

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I ....... I will keep on hammering@@ontherebel11

@davidcongleton3372

8 ай бұрын

Almost done, with your help. I have discovered that the two bolts supplied with the Rox 2", and using the 2 spacers, are not long enough to reach in reinstalling the speedometer assembly. I am heading to Home Depot to get 3" metric bolts. (The 2.75" just won't reach).

Is there a reason u didn't feed the wire clusters back between the handlebars?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

They won't be long enough with the risers on, That's why i had to reroute them that way.

Will the Puig touring screen still fit with the 2” bar risers. Great vid

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Christopher! Yes sir it sure will! 🤙

When you re attach the dash, why cant you use the original bolts that held it in place? Is it obstructed by the new risers? I may have missed it if you mentioned it in your video

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

That's correct, you need long screws to reach the threads after the dash is relocated

Thank you again. Did this mod couple of days ago myself also finally and it's such ergonomic boost to the riding experience -- before it I always ended up with really sore shoulders (because I assume instead of leaning forward like you did, I just drove with more straight arms?). Anyway, couple of side notes -- even with the 3" risers I had to reroute both front break breaking-fluid-tube (you seem to have done it also, but don't remember you showing it in the video, but your front break tube in video is behind the fork (tank side), not in front like it originally is); and also the parking break cable, like you show in 4" video addition.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi deemon, I'm glad you like them! Yes, I rerouted the front brake line, and I have a video of the method I used, I opted to disconnect the brake line and reroute it that way, but it can be done an easier way by removing the headlight. 👌

@salorjim1000

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 So you are saying that if you remove the headlight you can reroute the brake line without taking it off and having to bleed the brakes?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@salorjim1000 hi Jim! Yes sir, I personally verified that along with the clutch when helping a fellow owner install 4 inch risers on her manual 1100. 🤙

@salorjim1000

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thanks for the reply! Don't see my other question, maybe I did not hit post. Question is the spacers from Granger, you list two 30mm and two 15mm but in your video you have three spacers on each side.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@salorjim1000 the length of the spacers will depend on how much you tilt the risers towards the rider. The more you tilt the risers the less spacers you need. It's best to get a few spacers so that you can get the perfect angle for your personal reach.

I wonder how the risers will work with the stock mini batwing fairing? Would it place your hands above the fairing ends?

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting on the batwing, as soon as I get it, I'm going to figure out a way to make it work with the risers. I'll definitely be doing an install video once I get the batwing. Not sure if my grips will be higher than the guards as I pulled mine directly back with very little height gained. Regardless, getting the bars moved back is a top priority, so the batwing has to settle for leftovers 🤣 I called the dealership again today.... Still on backorder with no date listed...

@daverattle5636

3 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Fantastic. I'll be watching for that video!

Hi,Thanks for your video. I measured my Honda rebel 1100 2023 handlebar znd my one is 26mm

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🤙

@konstantinkarpov7879

Жыл бұрын

Is it possible that Honda installs different diameters of handlebars? I was able to find 22 and 28 mm risers online

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@konstantinkarpov7879 I am sorry my friend, but i am not sure about the question...

Great video

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Christopher!

How do you extrexhed the from break hydrulic hose, lol, i have the sma rserd but dont see how to make the fron break house streach,.

@ontherebel11

11 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6GLuJZuYZnXpdo.html

@ontherebel11

11 ай бұрын

Watch this video for an overview

@valienterf

11 ай бұрын

Thank you. 🇺🇸👍

Put on my risers and my throttle stopped working. Any ideas ? 21 dct

@ontherebel11

3 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that, it is going to be the cables at the right hand grip, you might have connected them backwards, or the connectors under the dash if you disconnected them, make sure to match the black to black.

I don't know if this has been asked but after you installed the risers, did it affect the handling or the characteristic of the Rebel 1100? Thanks.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Kou! Yes, I did notice a slight change in the handling when I first installed the risers, but after a couple of rides it was not noticeable. For me it was barely noticeable, but I've seen someone mention that they didn't like the change they felt. I now have 4 inch risers and absolutely love the way the bike handles in the twisties, just got back from doing the back of the dragon and had no issues with the handling. I recommend watching the video on how to adjust the risers, basically you want to form a straight line between the risers and the the bars for best performance.

I am really enjoying the videos. I just got my 2023 bagger yesterday! Where did you get those hex/socket/ratchet wrenches? I can't seem to find them.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations John! I saw the bagger in person and it looks awesome! I get most of my tools from harbor freight brother 🤙

Helpful and awesome video thank you! Did you use loctite for this? You mention having it previously but I don’t see you reapply it or mention it

@ontherebel11

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yes, definitely apply blue Loctite! I've experienced them getting loose without Loctite 👍

Looking at the fiddly bit with the spacers if you use black electrical tape to hold them together for installation and then remove the tape once the bolt has taken hold it might save a lot of frustration and swearing 😮

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Chris! Great tip man! Thank you for sharing brother, it will help many people!

Great info! Did you make any changes to cables and the longer screw length when you switched to 4" risers?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Sara! On my DCT I had to reroute the parking brake line when I swapped the risers to the 4 inch. Unfortunately I didn't make a video..... In the screen installation video you can see how I routed the cable with the 4 inch risers visible. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYBtk9iEqs26f7Q.html

You use 3 different spacers in the video, but I only see 2 types linked in the description. Could you provide a link for the 3rd spacer?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi there!! You can get a few of these to make up any needed distance www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Spacer-Nylon-3ZMU2

Hi Gustav.. what is the product code for the 4” risers. I want to go ahead and purchase a set. Thanks for a another awesome Video.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the encouragement Kevin! Hers's a link for the ones i got www.amazon.com/Rox-Speed-FX-4R-P4RX01-Handlebar/dp/B06ZXZ3DL7/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1X84WKPOTLTP4&dchild=1&keywords=Rox+Speed+FX+4R-P4RX01+Pivoting+Handlebar+Riser+-+4in.+Rise+-+Black&qid=1635740078&qsid=133-0027462-8899378&sprefix=rox+speed+fx+4r-p4rx01+pivoting+handlebar+riser+-+4in.+rise+-+black+%2Caps%2C113&sr=8-1&sres=B06ZXZ3DL7%2CB071YGDGHX%2CB07K9MPWFF%2CB0852XM2KC%2CB088LV8RLD%2CB09FSZV67M%2CB006UGTB30%2CB08Q7Q6KFY%2CB001PRX27K%2CB01NCEELHW%2CB01LA746D8%2CB01N5CS28J%2CB01MF9DJCG%2CB007QI2C28%2CB007RE9V0M%2CB01MXVM8BC%2CB0084FH4FC%2CB003YZNGAO%2CB010P3AODY%2CB06XJL1VFF

when you put the 3' risers for the rebel, were you still able to attach the batwing?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed! I was able to document that process for your reference. 👍

So if it is a required step to reroute the brake line ... why not include that in the video? Superb video tough. Am waiting for my 2" Rox black pivoting risers - 1R-P2PPK. Looking forward to getting this done! Couldn't have done it without this video ! Thank You

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you brother! I'm not very good at editing yet so the video for rerouting is separate from this one 🤣🤣 here is the link kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYmBzs6gh82ul6w.html Please note, some have recently rerouted the brake line by removing the headlight which eliminates the need to empty the reservoir. Unfortunately I haven't tried it yet..

with the 4 inch risers-was there any problem with the throttle cables ?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dave! Not at all! But I did need to reroute the parking brake line when I switched over to the 4 inch risers.

Just so im clear we need 60mm of m6 screw and 45mm of spacers and that works for a 4in rox riser?

@ontherebel11

5 ай бұрын

Hi Ryan!! my recommendation is to get 55mm, 60mm and 65mm m6 screws. the length of the risers and the angle you tilt them back to will determine the length that you need. I got different size spacers so that i can combine them to get the exact length i need. You will love how much more comfortable the bike becomes!!!

@ryanjallen_handmade

5 ай бұрын

@ontherebel11 it was a trick getting the e-brake flipped i have the heated grips already installed. But i got it done. I had to pop the casing off the e-brake to make it skinny and losen the cable stay

@ontherebel11

5 ай бұрын

@@ryanjallen_handmade Outstanding!! Congratulations!!!!

Very helpful. Who sold the adapters or where do I find them?

@ontherebel11

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad you found it helpful! The links to everything I used is in the description 🤙

Very informative instructional video. I have a question tough - After you plug back in the cable for the dashboard, aside from adjusting the clock, did everything goes back to to normal?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Noel! Yes, everything else remained the same, I only needed to adjust the clock 👍

@noelurgel7237

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thanks for the quick response. I'm browsing on the 15mm and 30mm spacers by clicking on the link but it doesn't bring me the the right destination. Same as the M6 bolt. Could you just give me the catalog #/part # of these 2 items. I'm considering to install the 3" riser. Thanks so much.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@noelurgel7237 sorry about that, here are the screws you need (2 screws) www.homedepot.com/p/M6-1-0-x-60-mm-Phillips-Pan-Head-Stainless-Steel-Machine-Screw-843288/204283806 Spacers: (2) 30 mm www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Round-3ZMU1 Spacers: (2) 15 mm www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Round-3ZMT6 I hope these links work

How much did you spend total on your upgrades…I would probably do the exact same….I’d rather modify a Rebel than spend double on an Indian/Harley or maybe a Speedmaster

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

You make the best point I've seen since day 1 of ownership! We think alike! No matter how much I've spent on upgrades, it is well worth it for me personally since it will never reach the amount you'd spend on a Harley or Indian or a BMW. Plus it's easy for me to justify the cost since It is a passion of mine and I perform all the work myself on the bike. Risers: 100, batwing: 600, additional screen: 150, seat: 650. Tires: 500. Saddlebags 600?. Very reasonable to create a package who's value is unbeatable in my humble opinion. I would spend thousands more without batting an eyelid as the joy it brought back to my life after being away for 10 years is invaluable. Life is too short and we only live once. 🤙

Good man. Everyone knows that Estwing is the best. You mean crossthreading. Rotate the bolt backwards till you feel the thread drop and then you always know you are threading them right.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I haven't heard that term, thank you for pointing it out! I learn something new everyday!

What brand are the risers ?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike, these are Rox pivoting risers 👍

Is the OEM handlebar 7/8" or 1" circumference?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, it's 1 inch but tapers at the grips.

The lower part of the riser has three screws, two above, and one below. Can it be one above, and two below? Is one way recommended or does it not matter?

@ontherebel11

27 күн бұрын

It won't matter, whatever your preference, but why do you want to switch them around, are you trying to get more height or is it just a visual preference?

@olheghtt

27 күн бұрын

@@ontherebel11 it would just be a visual thing. I'm not even sure which way I would do it I would have to see it on the bike first. Lol I know it's kind of a dumb question but thanks for answering. 👍

@ontherebel11

27 күн бұрын

@olheghtt not dumb at all! It's just a preference that's all, it will be just as functional! 🤙

You already relocated the brake line to the other side looks like. Was it hard to do?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Greg!! Yes i relocated the front brake line, the way i did it is by removing the brake line, the easier way to to remove the headlight and route the whole brake fluid reservoir through the gap created by removing the headlight. that way you don't have bleed the brake line.

Do you have the link for the risers? I couldn't find them on amazon.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

I just checked, it seems that it is out of stock.... you can check on Rox website, you might get lucky there

@user-hq5tr2wp9g

Жыл бұрын

​@@ontherebel11hey there I have a question do you know of a handle bar that be good for the Honda rebel100 DCT 2021? The raisers I need are 5" and I would have to change a longer cable

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@user-hq5tr2wp9g hi Atari, burly makes bars and an extension kit, check them out! A lot of people have installed them. 👍

I'm just now starting this process. I tried to call spuegker and get the brake line extension from them, but the gentleman I spoke to was lost at sea when it came to it. He suggested something like a part number from the packaging, or something to indicate measurements. Any ideas? I'd even go for a whole new line if needed, but not even sure where to start.

@ontherebel11

Ай бұрын

Hi Eric the part number for the brake line extension is EL-0152-004-970 black/black. 🤙

@Malevolentguppy

Ай бұрын

@@ontherebel11 fantastic! Thanks a bunch.

Where did you get the spacers?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Christa! Thank you for your comment! I've included links in the description for your convenience, let me know if you have any issues with them 🤙

Thanks for the video! I ordered a rebel 1100 but having second thoughts now as I have lower back issues and I’m concerned about the riding position. I’m considering getting a new nc750x instead but I’m sure it won’t be as much fun as the rebel. How do you find the comfort with the risers? And please can you share any thoughts on the comfort of the suspension, in particular the rear shocks and how it handles potholes? Many thanks and safe riding!

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

This topic is near and dear to me, thank you for asking this question! I initially wanted the NC750x obsessively, not the rebel! Due to the delay of the 2021 NC and the earlier release of the rebel 1100 with DCT, i was tempted to consider the Rebel. After extensive research and reflection, i decided to risk it and get the rebel, mind you i had a lot on the line as i had taken a 10 year break from bikes (track only rider R6). The bike had to be something very special and had to impress me in more ways than one in order for me to get back into my lifelong passion. i'm 5'7", 165 lbs with short arms and short legs, 48 yrs old, dislocated shoulders and a bad back. Comfort is of utmost importance to me, hence why my initial research brought me to Honda's DCT, as i suffer from arm pump and left wrist pain, but wanted to tour and travel long distance, i'm an adventurer at heart. I had concluded that the NC was the best fit for me and was going to lower the bike to fit me. I had months of internal arguments between choosing the rebel or the NC. To help ease my anxiety, i reassured myself by saying that i could always trade in the rebel when the NC comes out. I "settled" for the rebel so i thought. Let me tell you, boy did this freakin bike blow my mind! WOW! One of the best decisions i've made! I can go on and on about the rebel 1100 and talk your ears off. It is sooooo much more than i had ever hoped for, simply brilliant, an amazing piece of engineering, the power is intoxicating, the handling is mind boggling! like i said i can go on and on about the bike! However, due to my unusual physique, the back pain i was experiencing due to the forward lean because of my short arms was unbearable and was quite depressing tbh, it was either fix the riding position or sell the bike..... i hate to admit. I concluded that the bars need to be brought back asap, visited my local shop to see what new handlebars could work on the rebel as well as lots of online research, at that time nothing was available, so the only option i could consider were risers. I bought both the 2 inch and 3 inch and hoped that i would be able to make the 3 inch work, and let me tell you, what a difference it made, pain free! I was so happy that i decided to share my experience with others on facebook, due to so many having the same issue, i was motivated to make this video so that others can feel the same joy i do now. I even took it a step further and have since installed the 4 inch risers! Another issue you will have is the seat, plain and simple it is horrible! An airhawk made a world of difference for sure! I have since taken my seat to a local upholsterer and reshaped the seat to my shape resulting in no more pain ($150), that bought me time to wait until i find the ultimate solution with a comfortable seat. The suspension is adequate, you will definetly have to add preload specific to your weight and riding style, but it is not a dual sport bike. I added 10 clicks of preload in the rear and 1 full turn in the front, that's the sweet spot for me. To conclude, if i had to make the same decision again between the NC and the rebel, it will take me less than a second to decide on the rebel knowing what i now know. Still, in an ideal world i will eventually get the NC as well so i can have both! Might have been very tempted to get it this year in addition to the rebel had the NC come with cruise control. btw, absolutely in love with the cruise control on a bike! Moving forward, any and all bikes that i will get will have a DCT and cruise control! Sorry for the long answer, but it is honest and from the heart.

@killingtime8612

3 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thank you for the detailed reply, it is helpful! It’s been quite the internal struggle here about these two bikes. I am going to test ride both bikes back to back and then make a decision. Take care and ride safe!

@motovlogjoni

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 just back to this older video and read this.. i still keep my nc750x. Short arms and look like converting numbers im 5'7 as well. Already 2 weeks since riding the rebel is killing my back after 15 to 20minutes... extreme lower back pain. I had it on NC750 as well but was a little pain after 3 hours riding.. I install risers and a shad confort seat and solve everything. Rebel look like will be more expensive, to adjust the rebel... just funny that on the first months i was quite ok with it, but this weeks the pain is to strong and i feel it for 3 days. I love my NC750 DCT 2014, best bike i ever own but as soon i have a solution for my backpain im gonna sell her. I never like the design, only bought bcause was DCT lol Rebel have the style i like, i owned a 300 before. Pitty the aftermarket parts are taking so long.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@motovlogjoni Hi Joni! The risers made all the difference in the world for me! FYI, i ended up changing to the 4 inch risers instead for additional comfort.

@RobertRazavi

2 жыл бұрын

@@killingtime8612 what did you end up with?

Nice video what brand/model risers are in your video (not the 4 inch where you had to extend cables) TIA

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Stan, I initially had the rox 3 inch pivoting risers.

@stanburchell9904

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 interesting I only saw 2 inch risers for the 1100 on their website …thanks

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

They make 2 inch, 3 inch and 4 inch risers that fit the rebel. You need to get the 1 inch clamp

@stanburchell9904

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 I’ll check again thanks

Thanks for the detailed video man! Quick question. I just got my four inch risers and there seems to be some conflicting information online. Some people say you need to extend cables , others say re route. Is there a scenario in which if you have too much height or reach with the 4 inch risers you have to extend some cables?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi there! Thank you! With 4 inch risers tilted towards the rider like I have, will not need any extensions, but I do recommend that you get a brake line extension, it is very easy to add it and much safer. I am not sure if having the risers more vertical will need an extension, I am short 😅 I needed reach instead of height

@doom3crazy

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 is there a specific extension kit or whatnot you’d recommend ? And is there any tutorials or videos on how to extend it ?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@doom3crazy there are a few available, but since I've used spiegler for my track bike, I trust them and went with them. Give them a call and tell them that you want a brake line extension for the rebel 1100, they know which one it is and will guide you through the rest. Unfortunately I didn't document that process.... But I'm sure there are lots of videos on how to get it done, I do have a video on how to bleed the brakes which you might find helpful, I also have a video on how to disconnect the brake line and reattach it which also would be helpful as it is a similar process.

@doom3crazy

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 thanks for all the info dude ! So just to recap. If I don’t want to extend the brake line I don’t need to but it may just be a little tight on the slack ?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@doom3crazy no worries bro! Yes, you can keep the existing line, but you have to make sure it is not tight! Please consult your dealership, don't risk it when it comes to the brake line.

Thank you for the video. I’d like to try the 3-Inch riser on my Rebel 1100 DCT. May I ask what it was that you used in the video? (Link?) I live in Japan but there is only one size available here. (5/8” up, 1-1/2” to the rider, not adjustable but the angle of the bar) thank you in advance!

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Aki! here is the Risers is used in the video www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZPLB8L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Have a wonderful day Aki!

@akiyoshimizu6609

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 great! Thanks again!! Just to be clear, you didn’t have to deal with the cables when you used these 3” ones, correct?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@akiyoshimizu6609 you are welcome Aki! I had to reroute the front brake line when I installed the 3 inch risers. I have a video on the channel showing how I was able to reroute the front brake line if that might be helpful. 👍

@akiyoshimizu6609

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Oh I see, yes I did watch the video, thinking that you ended up doing that because you changed to 4”. It seemed not too difficult, by loosening the headlamp unit. Your videos are so informative! Thanks so much! May I ask that state you are located? I come to NC every year for a business conference. (Not these years because of Covid)

@akiyoshimizu6609

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 and one more question, if you don’t mind. When you had the 3”, didn’t the handle bar touch the fuel tank? Was there enough gap in between?? TIA.

Hello On the Rebell, where did you by the risers?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Tor! I got mine from Amazon brother, here is the link, Rox Speed FX 4R-P4RX01 Pivoting... www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZXZ3DL7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

@torerikjohansen4815

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thank you very much, and a Happy New MC Year

Did the DCT parking brake cable not need to be rerouted? I have a NC700X DCT and trying to do the same mod but the parking brake cable is too short. Thinking of moving it to the inside of the triple tree instead of over it as it normally is. Do you think that will be a hard job?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ropey! Since I made this video, I have changed the risers to the 4 inch risers and needed to reroute the parking brake line, unfortunately I did not document the process..... In the screen installation video, you'll be able to see the new risers as well as the rerouted brake line. Hope it helps! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYBtk9iEqs26f7Q.html

@ropeysubstance1719

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thank you, I will check out the video. Were you able to reroute the DCT parking brake cable from the handlebar assembly or did you have to start from the back at the parking brake caliper assembly?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@ropeysubstance1719 I took apart the assembly, it took a while to figure out how to take it apart, but it is fairly straight forward. I found it to be easier for me to reroute it that way.

@ropeysubstance1719

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Which assembly did you take apart? The parking brake lever assembly or the caliper assembly at the rear wheel? Is there a screw that opens everything up like a clam-shell, similar to how the throttle cables are held in?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@ropeysubstance1719 I took apart the assembly at the front end, the lever itself. The plastic housing can be pryed aside and it pops off, no screw attaching it to the assembly, once you remove it, you'll be able to see the internals and the way the cable is held. It will be similar to releasing the clutch cable from the lever if that makes sense, additional slack would be helpful, I loosened the adjuster, you could get more slack by releasing more slack at the caliper side.

Thanks for the very helpful video! Is this the Rox risers you use? Does a kit come with the long dashboard screws and spacers? You referenced at about 24:15 minutes the "long screws and spacers we discussed" but I can't find any discussion about them in this video.

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John! My apologies brother! This video was made for the rebel 1100 Facebook group and all that information was in the listing. I will update the description of this video to include the spacers and the longer M6 screws. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Rox 3 inch pivoting risers. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZZPLB8L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1&fbclid=IwAR262he4K9vR35YIlw8qxmT1_MWbyhl4TWAQ87BWf9gPgmI6WHkEXtl0fvI

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Longer screws and spacers used: M6 Screw. Quantity: 2 www.homedepot.com/.../M6-1-0-x-60-mm.../204283806 Grainger 30 mm long spacers for M6 screws. Quantity: 2 www.grainger.com/.../GRAINGER-APPROVED-Round-3ZMT9 Grainger 15 mm long spacers for M6 screws. Quantity: 2 www.grainger.com/.../GRAINGER-APPROVED-Round-3ZMT7

@ontherebel11

3 жыл бұрын

Facebook Page. You should consider joining the group, lots of great information! facebook.com/groups/hondarebel1100world/

@johnmoore3167

3 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Done deal - joined

your riser video is terrific--one question-if the risers are pushed forward for more heighth,will the bar hit the dash-thank you

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Dave! 🙏 The more upright the risers are, the more spacers and longer screw you will need to push the dash away for clearance, if that makes sense.

@davewursta3842

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 lot of sense-thank you

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@davewursta3842 anytime brother! 👍

@kennethbyington1100

Жыл бұрын

What was the risers you used on your rebel please?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Ken, I used 4 inch risers

Did you use any loctite or just torque them down?

@ontherebel11

8 күн бұрын

Definitely add Loctite after you are happy with the final position 👍

How did you get the clutch cable to reach on these 3 inch ones?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Sean, i rerouted it like i did with the Parking brake brother. We even installed 4 inch risers on a manual bike without needing to replace the clutch cable.

@WaffleStomper69

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 thanks! That's what I ended up doing too with 3 inch risers. I was commenting yesterday while doing that and the batwing. I've noticed the clutch gets a little tight and the friction point and pull tension gets tight when I have the bars locked to the right still but that's only going to be for slow speed parking lot maneuvers so I think it's fine. The 3 inch rise is such a much needed change! Your batwing install video was a massive help too btw. Very happy we have your info out here for us.

@WaffleStomper69

Жыл бұрын

Btw I know you toyed around with the cut puig windscreen and all that...after I got the risers and batwing on, the wind direction ended up being right in the worst spot for me. It needs to either be a little higher where I'm under the wind, which I would want for long trips, or a little lower where I'm over the top but the wind that hits me is steady and constant instead of a high frequency buffering. I'm 5'10". Did you keep the stock windscreen from the batwing? I'm planning on getting a seat too which will raise me a bit with the options I'm looking at.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@WaffleStomper69 I'm glad to hear that brother, i appreciate your kind words! Try routing the clutch cable through the frame and under the front gas tank bolt, you won't have the issues you are describing.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@WaffleStomper69 great question! Definitely get the seat first before working on fixing the screen height. The good thing is that there is a company that can make any size screen you want for the batwing. When I'm not touring, I keep the short screen that came with the batwing, and change it out for the tall one when I'm on a long multi-day trip.

The links do not work… are you able to provide specs of each screw/spacer you used ?? Great video !!

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bry! i'm sorry about the delayed response, thank you for reminding me about the bad links, i have corrected them! M6 Screw. Quantity: 2 www.homedepot.com/p/M6-1-0-x-60-mm-Phillips-Pan-Head-Stainless-Steel-Machine-Screw-843288/204283806 Grainger 30 mm long spacers for M6 screws. Quantity: 2 www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Spacer-Nylon-3ZMU1 Grainger 15 mm long spacers for M6 screws. Quantity: 2 www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Spacer-Nylon-3ZMT6

@bry00bry

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m definitely gonna give these a try on mine.

I think I’ve answered my own question re “will the Puig screen still fit I think I can see the brackets in the video duh!!

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

All good brother, we are all here for each other and to learn together! 🙏

What part of Virginia are you in?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Northern Virginia, about 30 miles from DC

@markever234

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 I’m down by the beach

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@markever234 I rode through your area in Dec!

Why did you upgrade from the 3 inch to the 4 inch risers?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dino! I changed them because I have short arms, 3 inches made a huge difference, switching to 4 didn't make a very big difference than the 3 but definitely helped me. Ideally, I think for me to be riding straight up with slightly bent arms, 6 inches would be perfect. I'd like to add a back rest in the future as I have back issues.

@jamesspringate8431

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 When using the 4" risers are the longer screws and spacers to remount the speedometer the same?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesspringate8431 Hi James, i used the same screws, but because the risers are a little longer, they provided a little more clearance for the dash, i was able to use a 1/2 inch less spacers, here is a video of me installing the dashboard with the 4 inch risers, even though it's being installed with the batwing, the process is the same, go to the 21:21 min mark kzread.info/dash/bejne/pnaKzsRmZsKndtI.html

How short are you really?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 5'7 with short amrs

@priit7777

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 although I am 2" taller, I think I should for sure consider those risers as well. Maybe 3" is enough for me though, less complicated cable routing than for 4" 😅

What size are those spacers and bolts?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Boss, the links to everything you need is in the description 🤙

@StillGrayProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 do you know what size is needed on the bolts and spacers for the 2 inch risers ? Also. This might sound dumb but,,,, what’s the best way to measure what you need? I’m a six foot rider and I think the 2 inch should be fine but maybe not 🤔

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@StillGrayProductions the size will be hard for me to estimate as the angle you will have the risers set to will deterime the length of spacers and screws needed. Not a dumb question at all brother! The best way to measure what you need is to sit on the bike at the angle you want your back to be in, then extend your arms to the bars and rest your fingers on the bars. Then measure the distance from where the bars rest on your fingers to the palm of your hand. That will tell you quickly how many inches you need. In my case that distance was 6 inches to be completely upright.

@StillGrayProductions

Жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 thanks man. So lemme make sure I’m understanding correctly. I’m six foot tall. If I want to eliminate being slightly hunched over when riding I would need to bring the bars back closer to me , correct ?

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

@@StillGrayProductions that is correct. I have seen people that are your height that needed 4 inch rox risers to be in an upright position. You just need to determine your comfort stance as some people don't mind leaning forward slightly. Since I tour for long distance, I needed to be completely upright.

Is it a M6 55mm or 60mm screw? The links are not active and the actual link indicates 60mm but you state 55mm?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Lisa! Sorry about that, I'll update the links when I get a chance. Go with the 60mm, it will work just fine, even 65 will work if you can't find 60

@lisabradley6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Perfect! Thank you so very much for the quick response. I contacted a local shop to see about installing these risers but they forewarned of extending cables and such....I think that's gonna be overkill so I'm going to try to tackle this myself! You've been so helpful!

@lisabradley6466

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Sir....I'm seeing that you are in N. Virginia! I'm located in Springfield, VA. ANY chance I could commission you to upgrade my risers is you have the time to do so?!? I would certainly be willing to pay for your help and bring all the needed items. No worries if not. I totally understand. Or maybe you know someone locally that is capable and willing to do this modification? I would so greatly appreciate any help or advice you could offer. I just bought the manual 2022 1100 and I'm 5'2 so I'm struggling.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisabradley6466 it's my pleasure Lisa, believe me! You can do it, so many of us have done it and love the bike so much more because of it! I hit 10,000 amazing miles yesterday, and love the rebel 10,000 times more now! I'm at your service should you need anything, please feel free to email me if you prefer Ontherebel11@gmail.com

@lisabradley6466

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Yes Sir. I'm going to email you right now! Thank you.

So for the 3 inch risers you did not have to reroute the cables? I am 4'9 and trying to raise them without needing to reroute anything ?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there! You will need to reroute the front brake line and the wiring harnesses under the dash like it was done in the video. It will definitely help in terms of comfort! I ended up changing mine to the 4 inch risers!

@brainzvsbeauty2116

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 i actually bought the 4inch risers and i have them but i do not want to take off the headlight or anything like you did in the other video I saw

@brainzvsbeauty2116

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 do you think the 3inch risers will not cause me to have to do all of that?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@brainzvsbeauty2116 do you have the DCT?

@brainzvsbeauty2116

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 yes sir! I figured because i was so short that the 4inch risers would help but when i toke it to the dealership they told me they couldn't do it because the break cable was not long enough

I'm planning on doing the same thing with mine. It would be nicer if all the bolts on the clamps were black instead of stainless

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right! My friend had given me a couple of the smaller bolts in black, I forgot to get the larger bolts in black, thank you for reminding me! 😊

Did you have any issues with the clutch cable? I installed these same exact 3 inch risers and when i turn the bike left the cable you can feel get tighter. When you have it facing straight or right it is perfectly fine. And the friction zone alters when you turn left also, basically all the way pull out the handle. I even re-routed the clutch cable to give it more slack.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

I have the DCT so I didn't need to change anything on the parking brake cable while using 3 inch risers. I have since installed 4 inch risers and had to reroute the parking brake line. You could get the Africa twin clutch cable as a replacement, a member on the Facebook group did it that way.

@BloodEyeDragon1

2 жыл бұрын

Ok thank you for the information I will look into that and getting it right away

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@BloodEyeDragon1 Here is the part number for the clutch cable 22870-MKK-D21

@BloodEyeDragon1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 thank you I just sent my request to join the Facebook group

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@BloodEyeDragon1 excellent! You'll find amazing people there and lots of helpful information! Here is the link to the post about the risers with a ton of information and feedback in the comments facebook.com/groups/hondarebel1100world/permalink/4308772939175387/

Hello, just clarify; the 4 inch risers are also made by Rox?

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Albert! Yes sir, rox makes 4 inch pivoting risers as well as 3 inchs and 2 inches. Here is the link to the 4 inch risers Rox Speed FX 4R-P4RX01 Pivoting... www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZXZ3DL7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

@albertsanchez8007

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thank you sir. 🙂

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

@@albertsanchez8007 anytime brother! Fyi, the felt effect from stock to 3 inch risers was huge! The switch from 3 to 4 wasn't as dramatic. For what it's worth. But still necessary for me.

@albertsanchez8007

2 жыл бұрын

@@ontherebel11 Thank you for your guidance my friend.

Describe your spacers You show 3 pieces on the bolt but only refer to 2

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Hi Lars, these are different lengths so that you can mix and match them to get the desired distance since the risers pivot. So the more vertical you set the risers the more spacers you need. 👍

n aurait bien aimer voir tout remonter et différence avec l'origine!!!!!!!!!!!

@ontherebel11

Ай бұрын

Salut Ange, Merci pour ton commentaire !!

Leider in Deutschland nicht zugelassen ! Ohne diese Lenkerrückverlegung ist diese Kiste sowieso nicht über längere Strecken fahrbar.

@ontherebel11

Жыл бұрын

Das tut mir leid, Willi. Vielen Dank, dass Sie dies mit der Community teilen.

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@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Зачем, вообще бесполезная ерунда.

@ontherebel11

2 жыл бұрын

Спасибо