Dude peaces out to Rome and yet still drops this gem.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 Literally in the Dallas Fort Worth airport right now

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

Satan has a home in rome - it's called vatican.

Brayden, this is an amazing video. It is so extremely helpful for us existing Catholics to here the passion, love and clarity that you new converts have for this wonderful church of ours. It has ignited a much needed fire in me and I dare say others. Thank you, Braden, God Bless

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

God bless!

Please don't fear making long videos. I happily watched from beginning to end and I'm sure many others did too. Complicated topics need to be given ample time to do the topic justice otherwise one just does a disservice to what one is trying to achieve. As long as you're engaged with the topic and you are. Then viewer isn't going to mind length. Anyway just my two cents worth. I think it would be a shame to further edit this. Thank you and God Bless.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching through the video! Your comment is very kind.

@Sheilamarie2

Жыл бұрын

I agree, no problem with long, well constructed, well argued videos! I appreciate the work and effort!

Good job! I thought I won't listen to the whole video because of the length but l did. I couldn't stop listening. Excellent information. Thank you. God blessed you.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

You nailed it! I appreciate the thoroughness of the info you presented! Welcome to the one, holy, Catholic, apostolic Church!

Excellent work Brayden! If all young Catholics had your zeal, the world would be a totally better place. You cherish and share the same jewel of Faith that many young cradle Catholics reject as irrelevant superstition.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

it's so sad so many are so blinded.

@essafats5728

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 oh no, plz stop talking bout yourself

@elizabethnothem9501

Жыл бұрын

That is because they aren't taught all of this. I know what I do about the RC beliefs because my parents taught and because I sought the information out. I look at what my children learn in their catechism classes and it is joke. All I can think is why? I'm a cradle Catholic and well very Catholic, my biggest problem with the catholic church is that we don't actually teach out beliefs and where they come from to children that don't attend a catholic school.

@OzCrusader

Жыл бұрын

@@elizabethnothem9501 ?

Listened start to finish… also, Anglican here🙋🏽‍♀️ My brain feels like it won’t buffer lol I am having such a hard time refuting your argument and defending Sola Scriptura after this video (keep in mind, I have held so tightly to the 5 solas my whole life that I almost tattooed them on myself a few years ago). Well done. This video is super helpful, well paced, and well thought out.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Very glad to hear! Thanks for the support.

@brandonmatheson6747

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2V8j86kiKvKlKQ.html Here is a great protestant view of this issue, be blessed!

@N1IA-4

Жыл бұрын

Yes, SS is logically, epistimelogically, historically, and biblically untenable. Lutheran here.....but won't be for too long hopefully.

@Nolongeraslave

Жыл бұрын

You seem not to understand the what and why Sola Scriptura doctrine is taught.

@enshala6401

Жыл бұрын

Aww, thanks so much for your comment - it was very encouraging and heart-warming! God bless!

Brandon, I am an agnostic, but you made me very curious and interested to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Bible.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Very happy to hear!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

you'll be confused and lost - as the 'catechism' is in contradiction with the Word of God. catholicism isn't Christianity john - it's paganism.

@Sheilamarie2

Жыл бұрын

See the "Catechism In A Year" on Ascension Presents, Father Mike Schmitz, just started Jan 1st and you can go at your own pace! It is a beautiful gift to us Catholics.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@Sheilamarie2 it's antichrist, Sheila. but if you continue to ignore Scripture, you will never know. again, *Truth invites investigation!* ~ catholicism runs from It.

@Sheilamarie2

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 Too bad you do not know Church history. Protestants should not be envious of the true History of Christ's church. Perhaps then, you don't want to hang out on a Catholic channel?... It's very un-Christianlike to spew hate against fellow Christians!

Brayden. We are so lucky to have you join the Catholic Church. Your videos are so interesting and thorough. You are helping many of us cradle Catholics learn how to use scripture in broad strokes to grow spiritually. You should lead Bible studies

@Itsmedaniel32

Жыл бұрын

YES..... I am 69 this year and was born and raised actively in the Catholic church. The videos I've watched so far have taught me tons

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@Itsmedaniel32 so sad that the Bible hasn't taught you Sir. but that explains why you haven't found Christianity yet. will keep you in prayer, friend.

@Itsmedaniel32

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 I am at a loss of how to respond as your reply to me just doesn't make sense. I just said it has taught me tons... as in either refreshed my knowledge or expanded my knowledge. There is one thing I know about Catholics, that is we tend to live faith and are not big on the book end of it

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@Itsmedaniel32 i actually love to inspire a reply by being a bit abrasive - but in all Truth, you may be a wonderful man, Sir. i just dislike greatly how horrible catholicism portrays our Loving Creator. a simple study of God's basics will show you that it's just not Biblically sound. but i do pray His will for you and yours, Sir. sincerely.

@ronaldeglewski3073

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 We do not need your hateful prayers .

Looking forward to finishing this video! Also THANK YOU for the super comprehensive resources in the description box!

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@helenabara2092

Жыл бұрын

Most funny and ridiculous thing When Protestants and other denominations make allegations that we Catholics have NO relationship with.Jesus. One thing I must say to them JESUS knows us VERY well that we Catholics what we are . So Please don't give trouble to your pretty head. God bless you brother and Bless us all .

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@helenabara2092 _'.....make allegations that we Catholics have NO relationship with.Jesus. (sic)'_ - John 14:15 proves you don't love Him - It's the Word of Truth - John 17:17

Appreciate the length of tbis video. Commenting for the algorithm. Keep it up

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This is such a great channel. I've recently decided to come back to the church. I do have issues with this pope... But it's the traditions I miss and love. It's the comfort of the rosary and being part of something way bigger than just than myself. It's important to me to try and build myself in Christ and being catholic is so beautiful...Mass is beautiful. Plus the tradition keeps me grounded in truth ... Grounded in the spirit.

@annfrost3323

Жыл бұрын

Francis, like Biden, is not here for much longer. There will be time and wisdom to straighten the terrible things momentarily being pushed at present.

@wordforever117

9 ай бұрын

What is reported about Pope Francis is uncharitable at best and more like libel. Anyway, the Pope is not able to modify doctrine so please don't worry about that!

Man, a lot of effort went into this. Good Job!

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it!

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

Lord, I tried to steer em away from your Word as the sole truth as best I could!?!

Looking forward to watching this.

What a fantastic video. Keep the good work!

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

I learned so much. Thank you!

Excellent argumentation on the position of the Catholic Church both Scripture and Tradition have equal importance.

Buddy you know so much I've been catholic my entire life and still can confuse myself. Lol but the lord always reveals himself.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

😂 Thank you!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

it's too bad, you should read the Bible and discover Christianity, Joseph.

I agree! It should be remembered that the church was already functioning, presumably, even before the emergence of the HOLY scriptures through the directions by the apostles. Hence, it is logical to believe that the early church's practices which became customs and/or traditions should be given consideration along side with the written words of God.

Awesome video❤

The video was better than expected, I was semi-expecting a lot of cheap shots (not because of you) but I guess I have been exposed to lots of bad arguments (Protestant or Catholic). I find navigating these matters very difficult, I guess the only way to resolve this is to take my time and study these matters myself. Still then it will be very difficult. I'm almost confirmed (will be confirmed this easter), but it's an incredibly bumpy road. There are lots of difficulties on the way, and my conscious is greatly divided at times. One day I absolutely love the faith, and the other day I strongly doubt the faith and wish to cancel being confirmed. Anyway I'll do my best to keep you in my prayers! Guess it doesn't really help that I come from a strongly anti-Catholic background, so I have to distinguish between valid reasoning and old bias. God bless!

@sotem3608

Жыл бұрын

the Catechuman!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

did you ever really understand what the protest was/is all about? why were you 'anti-Catholic' - did you and do you have a valid Biblical reason? do you not or has the Bible changed?

@sotem3608

Жыл бұрын

​@@tony1685 Hey tony! I will make a prayer for you, may God bless you!

@ronaldeglewski3073

Жыл бұрын

@@sotem3608 This guy really needs it .

@sotem3608

Жыл бұрын

@@ronaldeglewski3073 yes I know, I see him often in the comment section. But we all need prayers, I mess up often myself!

Well done!

Outstanding. May I suggest a PowerPoint or written summary that pops up intermittently as you go through the presentation.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion! This is a really good idea. I will try to do so in the future. It’ll take a little extra work, but if it helps visualize everything, I might as well include it.

Fantastic! You have analyzed and explained the topic here with remarkable precision and clarity. Praise God!

Great work!

I didn't watch the entire video in one sitting. I listened 15-20 minutes here and there while driving. I also sat in the parking lot before mass this morning listening

This is excellent. Thank you!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

it's a lie, friend - please read/study the Christian Bible.

Thats what im talking about my kind Sr.. Keep it up.. Show them the TRUTH. 👍🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼🥊🥊🥊🥋🕊️🕊️⛪⛪ MUCH RESPECT MY KIND GENT... 😇🕺🏻

just grow a beard and we're looking at the next Jimmy Akin here...

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

You’re too kind. I’d be lucky to become half the apologist Jimmy Akin is.

@brucebarber4104

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen, or you could just forget the beard and emulate people like Brant Pitre, Edward Sri, or Tim Gray.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen yet i've stumped Jimmy multiple times, friend. Truth is, i was just as blind and confused as most today are in dealing with God's Truth. but when i asked God to take my life and show me His will, things changed. now - not even one catholic can challenge the most basic of Christian doctrines! God did that - not me. i've had steve ray, keith nestor both in 1 on 1 discussion and neither of them know even basics! i know they tend to sound smart and all friend, but when one doesn't even have God's Truth in his heart - he's as easy to expose as it gets. thanks for reading and in all Truth, i pray you and your family God's will. but remember: *Truth invites investigation!* ~ catholicism will forever run from It (Matt 4, Luke 4)

@ronaldeglewski3073

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen I like him also some Protestants should look him up, he could answer some of their Ques.

This was incredible! So clear and organized! Thank you!!!

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

Very informative Bro,you are actually awakening the slumber of many through this! Thank you so much. Continue with this ministry, God is with you always.

I watched from beginning to end, very helpful.

*arrives at work* *puts on headphones* *whips out mental notebook*

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

❤️

@sotem3608

Жыл бұрын

Hey there, I was wondering what you'd think of this vid, good to see you here. I think you are really thoughtful and provide lots of things to think about. People like you make me doubt whether or not I should be roman Catholic, which can of course either be a very blessed thing or a horrible thing depending on what is true. I try to pray for you and others often, for me I can determine which way to go, I hope study will help me further, and looking at primary sources.

Very perceptive,practical,common sensical and historical arguments

@thedude4594

Жыл бұрын

It is amazing you people can’t see that y’all have become the exact same thing that Jesus spoke against the Pharisees. ✌️ traditions of MAN

@pemcortes9467

Жыл бұрын

@@thedude4594 said the person who obviously belongs to a sect with no history and, therefore, no tradition to be PROUD of or to HIS own temple. For your information, Jesus does not despise tradition. He actually upholds it by his circumcision, presentation, baptism, turning water to wine, institution of the eucharist and his passion and cruxifixion. What he condemns is hypocrisy and the sheer stupidity of hearing and seeing the actual TRUTH and NOT recognizing it.

@brucebarber4104

Жыл бұрын

@@pemcortes9467 🎯

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

Where do we go to get the legit, true tradition? I need the true source so I go not astray!

@pemcortes9467

Жыл бұрын

@@_ready__ look up the history of the church and if you can trace it back to the apostles without any gap and if its traditions are followed in every country no matter its culture then you have the promised church of Jesus in the bible.

Love your videos! Keep up the good work! God bless!

Crystal clear apologetics! theological, philosophical, intelligent response to Protestant's distorted view of sacred tradition which reformists designed to oppose the One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church since inception

Hi from Indonesian 🇮🇩 Catholic ✝️

Prepare for some Protestant cringe in the comments 😤

You are so articulate. I do hope you get ahold of Matt at "Pints With Aquinas" and perhaps, Keith Nestor (who is a converted Methodist Pastor), and appear on their shows, because your testimony/conversion would get more exposure, and you deserve it (more audience for your channel as well)! God Bless You!

I did finish this video, Braden, but I in five sittings hahaha. I'm looking forward to your next video, hopefully, a shorter one 😀

Thank you

I had to comment twice, since this video is so devastating to sola scriptura. Put this guy on the A Team.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it!

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

What do you use as your truth source?

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

*Sola Scriptura* can never fail, Sir! It's Perfect and will stand *Forever!*

@thecatholictypologist5009

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 Christianity didn't need it for the first 1500 years, and as the past 500 have demonstrated, it's an unworkable doctrine that make's each man his own pope.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatholictypologist5009 _'Christianity didn't need it for the first 1500 years....'_ - actually, the OT still had scrolls - which are the same thing - so yes, His written Word was since early on - very near the beginning - starting with Moses. _'....it's an unworkable doctrine...'_ - actually it's totally Biblical and the only reliable way! _'....that make's each man his own pope.'_ - there is no 'popes' in Christianity Sir. unless you're saying that it makes each man an apostasy. can you name for us just *One thing* comparable to His Word , which is known as Truth - John 17:17? why on earth would you choose to not have the only offensive weapon in God's Armor - the Sword of Truth!

38:32 Isn’t this a quote from Clement of Rome or am I mistaken? Nice vid btw 🔥

Wonderful video!

In saying that God led the Church into determining the Biblical canon, Protestants unknowingly confirm the authenticity of the Magisterium of the Church

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

nonsense, friend - there was no catholic 'church' when the Bible was finished. now your 'church' did assemble the 'bible' you all pretend is correct - but it's not at all accurate.

@maxellton

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 It was during the Council of Rome under POPE Damasus when the Bible was canonized.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@maxellton perhaps the catholic version of 'bible' was 'canonized' - but if your 'church' doesn't even obey It - does it matter?

Interesting take! There's a few things I was wondering as a Lutheran though: BTW: You asked us not to write an essay. Then ... I wrote an essay. Oops. The first two comments are most interesting I think, the last few lines are just meant to share some ideas that popped into my head and not be viewed as an argument. 1:04:15 You're saying that the data pool from which we pull doctrin is skewed if we don't have an infallible magisterium defining the canon. Bu how so? There's no "meta-magisterium" to determine whether there is a magisterium. But apparently we'd need something like that to make sure our theological verdicts don't go wrong? It seems to me this argument is "too big" and eventually gives all of Christendom problems. The exact issues you raise at 1:06:00 can also be raised against a magisterium, councils etc. Also, I don't see how you can consistently use Scriptural arguments for the magisterium, if you think we need the magisterium to set the boundaries of Scripture. It seems like you must show that the RC magisterium is true from history and a priori arguments alone. Some examples from your video: "In Protestantism none of these debates can ever be settled for it is all left up to the individual to decide on the validity of the doctrine before joining a church." (1:36:24) I think it would be more correct to say "Christianity", not "Protestantism". For isn't it by weighing the evidence you decided to join the RCC? It's up to you (and me) to decide whether the papal claims are true. Again, Protestantism, Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy all have to figure this out. "The secondary authorities in these classical Protestant traditions only settle the debate for those who have already agreed on the doctrinal system" (1:37:24). But this is close to how the Roman Catholic Church works. You must already have agreed on the system of *authority* from Scripture, tradition and a priori arguments - and you are the judge! Only then can you trust the judgment of the magisterium (and your trust shouldn't extend your level of certainty in your confidence in the truth of the RCC authority claims). "so the confessions don't resolve the debate. They are an identifying mark of which side of the debate you chose to agree with." (1:37:45). Exactly *this*! But this is exactly why it's very difficult to take the RCC (or EO/OO) claims of the need for settling the debate without an infallible magisterium seriously - it only solves the issues if you already agree with the system. But we have to weigh the evidence to get there. Are you aware of the Lutheran approach to the canon? Interestingly, the Book of Concord has no canon list. We don't view the contents of the canon as a theological but historical question. And we also take into account that some texts were difficult to canonize, so we distinguish between the antilegomena and homologoumena, so we should not hold to doctrines that are in antilegomena only, but the antilegomena may deepen our understanding of what we see in the homologoumena. In this way, the Lutherans try and take seriously the sometimes messy historical process of canonization in forming our theology. Also, you give some examples of "the word of God" being used referring to oral preaching/teaching. Maybe you're already aware, but this is not uniquely a Roman Catholic datapoint - it's very much a natural way of speaking for Lutherans, that we "preach/teach the word of God" (and we don't just mean expository preaching, but preaching Christ more broadly speaking. 1:21:30 On the category of Orthodoxy in forming the canon: If we distinguish between those texts that are very easy to determine as canonical and those that are more difficult, we start recognizing the easy ones and then compare the other texts to the easily recognized texts. I enjoyed the video a lot! I don't hope I've come across as harsh - I'm very much interested in the ecumenical dialogues and have studied the RCC to some extend recently.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

No worries about the “essay,” lol. Thank you for the very thoughtful critique! I really enjoyed reading your comment and I learned a few things. Hopefully, I can address these concerns soon. I will be thinking about your comment. God bless!

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

Jesus was a Jew. @@po18guy

Brayden, where are you at in eschatology? If you don’t mind me asking, what view do you currently hold too? What is your hermeneutical model? Thanks.

Thanks for this video.

All you need is 1k subs and 4k watch hours to get monetized, its appears you have that already, but you do have to apply for monetization (I think) it doesn't just happen automatically b/c KZread has to review your channel. Hope this helps, I'm a new sub and Im enjoying you content. I actually think you were only on my feed b/c I recently subbed to John Chaffee and watched several vids from America - The Jesuit Review channel while I was doing some research on the Jesuits in general. Gotta love that YT algorithm 😇

Sola Scriptura is incoherent because the Church was established with the coming of the Spirit at Pentecost, when the New Testament scriptures were not yet written. It is through the guidance of the Spirit that the Church and her authority worked among the Apostles and their fellow workers to write down the Gospels and sacred letters as God's words, and animated the Church to keep the true writings from the false ones. The Spirit breathed Authority to the Apostles and to their successors the Bishops, and this Authority manifested Sacred Tradition and the canon Scripture. "It is clear, therefore, that sacred tradition, Sacred Scripture and the teaching authority of the Church, in accord with God's most wise design, are so linked and joined together that one cannot stand without the others, and that all together and each in its own way under the action of the one Holy Spirit contribute effectively to the salvation of souls." (Dei Verbum, 10)

@pemcortes9467

Жыл бұрын

True!

Lutheranism teaches that Scriptures are final authority, but that tradition is authoritative. RC apologists tend to just address modern evangelical errors rather than what was presented during the reformation. The main issue of why I left Rome is because they historically have contradicted themselves, even to this day, and there are beliefs that contradict the Scriptures. Confessional Lutheranism has the better view without sacrificing tradition and the sacraments.

Really appreciate this video.

I’ve always wondered if sola scriptura grew out of post-Reformation reaction to the Scriptures not being in everyone’s hands st the time. It is important to remember that Protestants who hold to this view have a very high view of Scripture, unlike many of their liberal counterparts in Protestantism.

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

What is your view?

Catholics are raised to have a close relationship to Christ in the Holy Eucharist. Protestants forget this. They think Catholics don’t have a relationship with Christ which is so ridiculous.

@EPH-re2xj

Жыл бұрын

Relationship with what?

@sansebastiansj

Жыл бұрын

I don't deny your relatonship and your faith, the problem is you have this with a false jesus made by a catholic church. Holy Eucharist? Right. Because the priest has the power to bring back risen Christ from his throne in heaven and put him in a wafer using some abracadabra magic.

@sansebastiansj

Жыл бұрын

@harold clarkson It's not my idea. You do realize that drinking blood is forbidden since the old testament, right? You tell me Jesus broke the law? Furthermore. Jesus did not sacrifice his body on the last supper, the night before his one and only sacrifice on the cross. So you are wrong. The catholic church gives you a false jesus.

@sansebastiansj

Жыл бұрын

@harold clarkson How can you have unbloody sacrifice? And again. Drinking someone's blood is forbidden since the old testament. You basically say Jesus broke the law. Read John 6:35. You will understand Jesus is not talking about literally eating him.

@matthewbroderick6287

Жыл бұрын

@@sansebastiansj And Peter had the power to raise Tabitha back to life?🤔 it was the power of God working through Peter thst raised the little girl back to life. The same Power of God working through the Priest, that bread, WHEN BLESSED, is then. " My Body ", as Jesus Christ teaches! You are in my prayers as you journey toward Truth! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

Te felicito. Muy buena presentación sobre el tema de la “Sola Scriptural”. Profundiza sobre la Eucaristía en la vida del cristiano. Dios y la Virgen te bendiga.

Well done.

my favorite part is the "400 years of silence" that most use to throw out maccabees, so anyway you just open to the gospel of luke and theres a prophetess named anna whos like 100 years old and its pretty hard for a prophet to be a prophet if God is silent so verifiable 1/4 of your period of silence is gone, and now the whole silent till Jesus doesnt make sense anyway cause itd be what silent till He felt like telling people?

@bobthebuildest6828

Жыл бұрын

before someone gets mad, yes there are other arguments against maccabees but they all would cut out the book of Esther as well if applied universally

You mean SOLA -SKIPTURA 😁😁

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

Read James 1:1

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@_ready__ funny - those who aren't using Scripture with integrity and honor - they don't even have the Sword of Truth - which is the only offensive weapon in the Armor for God's people! @James 2:14 & 2:24 is all about 'faith' - yet he sadly fails to realize that faith only comes through the hearing of the Word of God - Romans 10:17 ~ and since he doesn't follow this, he is without faith and it's therefore impossible to please God - Heb 11:6 let's keep him in prayer, _ready_ friend! keep spreading Truth! if only 1 investigates these Truths, God can guide him and that is good!

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 👍🏼 thanks. The point I was trying to make was that James was writing to the Jews who believed the gospel of the kingdom which did require faith and works (baptism and following the law to show faith). We however, the body of Christ as revealed unto Paul, are saved via believing in the gospel of Grace - Paul’s gospel - also revealed to him via our risen Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV) 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you ***the gospel*** which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: FAITH ALONE! 😀

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@_ready__ well stated. we are saved by Grace, through Faith. we keep His Commandments _because_ we are saved, not _to be_ saved.

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 dude I don’t know how these people can actually push folks away from scripture. In effect that’s what happens. The sad thing is, the early church fathers never properly understood Israel Vs the body of Christ, Jesus’ earthly ministry vs His heavenly ministry, prophesy vs mystery, law vs Grace. They are stuck in Judaism by following the apostles doctrine and Jesus’ earthly ministry while totally ignoring all of Christ mystery revelations given to Paul via His heavenly ministry. Sad deal. The RCC has no clue. They believe the kingdom of Heaven referred to in Matthew is actually Heaven and pray the Lord’s Prayer which is for the Jews to pray for their earthly kingdom - heaven on earth. They were wholly earthly. One will search the scriptures in vain to find where they had a hope of Heaven! Grace and peace

MOST OF THE BEST CATHOLICS I'VE KNOWN ARE THOSES WHO EXPERIENCE CONVERSION INTO THE FAITH! HOLY GHOST HAS IGNITED YOUR HEART BRAYDEN! YOU ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH SPREADING & TEACHING TRUTH ABOUT THE CATHOLIC FAITH. EVEN CURRENT CATHOLICS WHO HAVE BEEN CATHOLIC ALL THEIR LIVES ARE SURELY BENEFITING FROM THIS WONDERFUL & WELL THOUGHT OUT & PUT TOGETHER VIDEO. GOD BLESS & PRAYING THAT YOUR KZread WILL BE FRUITFUL :)

dude you expalined well dome docrines of the catholic church..good job

2 Thessalonians 2:15, "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle." Sola Scripture is a self falsifying position.

@faithalone2171

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*Sola Scriptura DOES NOT REJECT traditions of Jesus and Apostles. 2 Thes **2:15**. SS merely REJECTS all man made unbiblical traditions of men, Mat 15, 23, Mark 7; such as those of Pharisees and Roman Catholic ct.* you said 2 Thessalonians 2:15, "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle." Sola Scripture is a self falsifying position.

@faithalone2171

Жыл бұрын

​ @enshala6401 *180+ verses say Jesus, Apostles and NT Church appealed to Scriptures Only for doctrines. Not once they took doctrines from traditions of Moses or Pharisees. This already proves Sola Scriptura.* *Roman ct members love defying God and His Words.* 31 Verses Found, 31 Matches Mar 12:10 Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED HAS BECOME THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE. Mar 15:28 So the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "AND HE WAS NUMBERED WITH THE TRANSGRESSORS." Luk 4:21 And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing." Joh 2:22 Therefore, when He had risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this to them; and they believed the Scripture and the word which Jesus had said. Joh 7:38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water." Joh 7:42 Has not the Scripture said that the Christ comes from the seed of David and from the town of Bethlehem, where David was?" Joh 10:35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), Joh 13:18 "I do not speak concerning all of you. I know whom I have chosen; but that the Scripture may be fulfilled, 'HE WHO EATS BREAD WITH ME HAS LIFTED UP HIS HEEL AGAINST ME.' Joh 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. Joh 19:24 They said therefore among themselves, "Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be," that the Scripture might be fulfilled which says: "THEY DIVIDED MY GARMENTS AMONG THEM, AND FOR MY CLOTHING THEY CAST LOTS." Therefore the soldiers did these things. Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, "I thirst!" Joh 19:36 For these things were done that the Scripture should be fulfilled, "NOT ONE OF HIS BONES SHALL BE BROKEN." Joh 19:37 And again another Scripture says, "THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED." 21 Verses Found, 21 Matches Mat 21:42 Jesus said to them, "Have you never read in the Scriptures: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED HAS BECOME THE CHIEF CORNERSTONE. THIS WAS THE LORD'S DOING, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES' ? Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. Mat 26:54 How then could the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must happen thus?" Mat 26:56 But all this was done that the Scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled." Then all the disciples forsook Him and fled. Mar 12:24 Jesus answered and said to them, "Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God? Mar 14:49 I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and you did not seize Me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled." 127 Verses Found, 132 Matches Mat 2:5 So they said to him, "In Bethlehem of Judea, for thus it is written by the prophet: Mat 4:4 But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD.' " Mat 4:6 and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: 'HE SHALL GIVE HIS ANGELS CHARGE OVER YOU,' and, IN THEIR HANDS THEY SHALL BEAR YOU UP, LEST YOU DASH YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.' " Mat 4:7 Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'YOU SHALL NOT TEMPT THE LORD YOUR GOD.' " Mat 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND HIM ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.' " Mat 11:10 For this is he of whom it is written: 'BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU.' Mat 21:13 And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER,' but you have made it a 'DEN OF THIEVES.'" Mat 26:24 The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born." Mat 26:31 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP OF THE FLOCK WILL BE SCATTERED.' Mat 27:37 And they put up over His head the accusation written against Him: THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. Mar 1:2 As it is written in the Prophets: "BEHOLD, I SEND MY MESSENGER BEFORE YOUR FACE, WHO WILL PREPARE YOUR WAY BEFORE YOU." Mar 7:6 He answered and said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written: 'THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. Mar 9:12 Then He answered and told them, "Indeed, Elijah is coming first and restores all things. And how is it written concerning the Son of Man, that He must suffer many things and be treated with contempt? Mar 9:13 But I say to you that Elijah has also come, and they did to him whatever they wished, as it is written of him." Mar 11:17 Then He taught, saying to them, "Is it not written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER FOR ALL NATIONS' ? But you have made it a 'DEN OF THIEVES.'" Mar 14:21 The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had never been born." Mar 14:27 Then Jesus said to them, "All of you will be made to stumble because of Me this night, for it is written: 'I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD, AND THE SHEEP WILL BE SCATTERED.' you said Where does the Bible say that Jesus practiced Sola Scriptura?

Haha, if this isn’t good, I don’t know what is

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

Well God I believed that the grapevine was where I should get my truth! I’m truly sorry I never really believed the Bible.

@thatcatholiclawyer

Жыл бұрын

@@_ready__ kid sit this one out, and watch the videos. Hey you might even learn something new 🫡😉

@_ready__

Жыл бұрын

@@thatcatholiclawyer where do you find the truth outside of the Bible? Heard it through The grapevine … we know how that works right? Grapevine = early church fathers that did not grasp the difference in Jesus’ earthly ministry vs His heavenly ministry!

@thatcatholiclawyer

Жыл бұрын

@@_ready__ you can find that and all the answers by watching the videos, doing your own research, and asking God in your heart to show you the way! No matter what I tell you you’re gonna “refute it” or “debunk it” or throw some Bible verse at me. Listen kid do myself and yourself a favor and use your God given intellect and your reason

@brucebarber4104

Жыл бұрын

@@thatcatholiclawyer 🎯

When are you going to start leading RCIA formation?

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Maybe I will when I’ve at least gotten out of RCIA myself 😂

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

That would be the best of all! @@thecatechumen

This is a amazing video, Amen brother in Christ! May i add though, I get what you are saying criticizing the saying of a youtuber that the bible didn't exist then. Yes, the jews had the scriptures originaly, what would you say to someone pointing out though that when its said the church didn't have the bible for a long time. They mean the canon of books put together under a single binding. With books we and the protestants agree on and as we call the deuterocanonical books.

Question: Are the following established by specific passages of scripture, or by oral tradition only? Purgatory. Penance. Maryology. Selling of Indulgences. The Office of "Pope".

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Purgatory, penance, respecting Mary, indulgences, and the papacy are all attested by scripture and tradition. Indulgences cannot be sold. That’s the heresy of simony.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen incorrect again and you've also once again misused _'heresy'_ - do you really hate Scripture that much!

@LarryBradley

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen Would you mind very much providing scripture references that support purgatory, penance, indulgences and the papapcy? As for "respecting Mary," all Christians should have a healthy respect for Mary, but the Roman Catholic doctrine of hyperdulia--which, as Calvin points out, elevates service to Mary that is on a level with latria---is essentially a doctrine which encourages Roman Catholics to worship Mary. In terms of worshipping Mary, my question is, where in the scriptures are we told to do so? I would encourage you to listen to at least the first session of the series on Maryology by Dr. R. C. Sproul. In many ways he comes to the defense of the Roman Catholic church on the proper place of Mary within Christianity, and urges that Protestants give her a very high level of honor and respect that tracks (in many ways, but not all) the RC church's veneration of Mary. The link is: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/mary/hail-mary#:~:text=Roman%20Catholicism-,Mary,-A%20teaching%20series

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

What are the Gospels? Nothing but written down oral traditions! Why do we even know who wrote the Gospels? Oral tradition! Why do we accept the NT as scripture? Because that is a long time tradition of the Catholic Church!

@LarryBradley

5 ай бұрын

@@user-nz8xr3wq9p Frances Turretin wrote: "The question is not whether the divine and apostolic traditions (i.e., all the doctrines taught by Christ or his apostles) are to be received (for all readily grant this). The question is whether there are any such traditions beside the Scriptures. Therefore until our adversaries prove conclusively that their unwritten (agraphous) traditions have indeed flowed from Christ and his apostles (which they never can do), we discard them as human." Protestant theologians have been been waiting for more than 500 years for Roman Catholics to offer conclusive proof for their position on oral traditions. Sorry to inform you, but they are still waiting, even after your brilliantly analytical reply to my post.

God bless you

What Epiphanius said, was he saying that any 'oral tradition' passed down by the Apostles was useful since there are things useful that are not necessarily found in Scripture (say, at what time in the morning to have Sunday worship, or, how to change a wheel when your cart is broken) - or, was he saying that the oral traditions of the Apostles outside of Scripture was of Exactly Equal Value as the Holy Spirit-inspired Scriptures?

@soulosxpiotov7280

Жыл бұрын

@@po18guy Apostolistic teaching through the writing of Scriptures and Divine Teaching Authority are one and the same. The Holy Spirit who moved the writers of the Scriptures is One and the same who guides the church. It is "ego" that says, "Ah, yeah, but you can ignore the Greek text, go by the non-existing Aramaic text that we were told to use". Or, "Yeah, lets go use these fictional books like "Bel and the Dragon", since we really like reading about Daniel blowing up a dragon by throwing a potion into its mouth, or "Tobit", who burned fish entrails to shoo away demons and burned even more fish entrails to cause people to marry - from these fictional books we'll come up with "Purgatory" and "Indulgences."

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

There are at least a couple of things that Christians firmly adhere to that are not in Scripture, but are known by Tradition. One is Sunday worship! The NT never says Christians should worship on Sunday. Now, it is hinted at as the Lord's Day, and the first day of the week, but never directly. Seventh Day Adventists know about these verses, but are able to argue them away. Another is that Jesus died on a cross. If Jehovah's Witnesses are correct, the word stauros that is usually translated cross, doesn't mean that at all, but simply some kind of upright stake. This all means that Christians are much more dependent on Tradition than we care to admit!

@soulosxpiotov7280

5 ай бұрын

@@user-nz8xr3wq9p I should have added to point a year ago to add to the discussion, but the point I was attempting to communicate was, man's tradition could at least be inferred as truthful, yet not of equal weight as Scripture itself. I believe the Trinity is true, even though this word isn't in Scripture, and is not of equal weight as Scripture itself. The issue is, are there traditions that contradict Scripture, and I'm referring specifically to Roman Catholic tradition, namely their Catechism.

Just a suggestion: I know you think this video was long and you had much to cover but speeding through your arguments doesn't help people appreciate them. You've added time stamps and people can always choose to listen at faster speeds if they want to. Take the time to make sure your point lands before moving to the next.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I’ll keep this in mind for the next one.

I use this senirio...be a math teacher...put a problem on the board...without telling g ir student the steps to figure out the problem....how many students would figure it out with out proper instructions

Thankyou.

Historical Protestantism has far more agreement amongst the denominations than presented by RC apologists. Catholicism, on the other hand, is very fractured. The church of Taylor Marshall and James Martin are not the same Church in spirit.

Hello! Does anyone know if there is an organization that sends free English copies of the Bible via post mail over all the world? I tried EEM (Eastern European Mission) but that was of no use, even after 3 months of waiting. I live in Russia and would like to improve my English with the help of the Book. Also, it would be good to get a copy in French hut it seems to be impossible...

@ahagjkbav5563

Жыл бұрын

@po18guy well, at least the New Testament is complete

I do really appreciate all those bible verses about the "word of God". I really do think I'm onto something with what it is. Basically, it's a sermon! doesn't it seem like this is central? The message! The word of God! So in a protestant service - it is central!

Convert 30 years. Son, you are doing great!!!!! Scott Hahn, this young man reminds me of you!

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

'convert' to what? catholicism isn't Christianity.

@myheroesofamerica719

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@@tony1685 Ignoring.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@myheroesofamerica719 oh i know, you're also ignoring Bible basics, but that is your right as well. i was catholic 35 yrs, but now am Christian. you can cover your ears all you desire - i use to as well. but *Truth invites investigation!* ~ catholicism runs from It - as you're proving for us.

I am up to now searching for the traditions that were handed to the believers or bishops to examine them. Where are on earth are they and what are the examples in our generation???

Does sola scriptura teach that the verbal apostolic teachings weren't authoritative? or not as authoritative as their writings?

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Scripture teaches that the Churches were to hold on to the teachings of the Apostles in whatever form they were delivered.

Paul had commanded Timothy to be faithful to what was given to him. But what if Timothy wasn't, and those after Timothy, what if they were not faithful? Or if they had a wrong interpretation because of some character flaw in their life, or whatever? Should their listeners be told "Nope, sorry, you have to listen to me, since I'm being faithful to what was given to me," or, "In case I'm wrong....then.....Search The Scripturessss...." ?

@soulosxpiotov7280

Жыл бұрын

@@po18guy "Any doctrinal errors were corrected long ago." You do realize, however, that there's been false teachers and false teaching over the course of 20 centuries, right? Or do you believe that all false teachers in history lived in the first two centuries? The TRUE church has survived, but there have been false teachings that generated offshoots from the true church since the time of the first Apostles.

The formation of the canon of Scripture is authoritatively discussed by Oxford professor John Barton in A History of the Bible, Penguin Books, 2019.

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

Lee Martin McDonald, a Baptist pastor in Santa Clara, CA, also wrote an excellent book on the formation of the canon.

I'm adding this comment with the intro paused, so I'm going to look quite stupid if this is addressed in the video. The claim of Sola Scriptura is inherently paradoxical: if Scripture is the sole infallible authority, and Scripture does not claim to be the sole infallible authority, then that claim is made by an entity without infallible authority, so it could be a fallible claim. Additionally, if the Church does not have infallible authority, then the Church cannot be infallible in any of her decisions, including the Council of Rome's declaration of Canon. This means that the Canon has a non-zero chance of being wrong, having either too many or too few books. If too few, there are books out there with the same authority as Scripture, meaning Scripture cannot be the sole infallible authority. If too many, there are some books within Scripture that are not infallible, meaning Scripture is not an infallible authority. Therefore, if Scripture is the sole infallible authority, Scripture is not the sole infallible authority, hence the paradox.

@alfray1072

11 ай бұрын

The Canon of Scriptures/holy bible is the inerrant God breathed infallible Word of God infallibly declared by the Catholic Church in the 4th century because the church was given the authority to bind and loose by Jesus himself.

Please create videos as long as you like! These are important topics that by nature require in-depth analysis. That takes time!

@dannyboy6598

Жыл бұрын

What is important is whether u are in line with scripture. But most rcc teachings are not. I can also make my church rules n say these are oral traditions. Oral traditions hv already stopped with the apostles. Al others are additions to counter Martin Luther for his findings about the false teachings of the rcc

@PatrickInCayman

9 ай бұрын

@@dannyboy6598 So why do you follow the false man-made teachings of a heretical man?

Brayden, you have a particular gift at synthesis which is at once entirely original and completely orthodox. I am hardly qualified to tell you your vocation, but I would encourage you to spend time praying and discerning a career related to patristics or systematics.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m hoping to enroll in graduate classes at a Catholic university very soon.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen why not try Christianity and save your money? read the Bible, friend - It can cure you of catholicism if you put your pride aside.

@thecatechumen

Жыл бұрын

@@tony1685 It’s funny that your strongest arguments are slanderous ad-hominem attacks which you have no way of verifying. Even if I were to record and upload myself reading my Bible daily, you’d have a way around denying it. Grow up.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen you never do attempt to answer my Bible questions and proof that your 'church' isn't Christianity. no catholic can. so i am doing all i can to allow Michael the opportunity to see how you ignore Scripture and still pretend to follow Christianity. _'Ever if I were to record and upload myself reading my Bible daily....'_ - Lucifer too studied God's Word (Matt 4, Luke 4) does it mean it's ok to disobey It - as you do , Sir??? you have to use sense, Scripture and *INTEGRITY* see John 14:15, which proves you *HATE* Jesus Christ and so does this counterfeit 'church'. and friend, no catholic can deny and prove otherwise with sense, Scripture and *INTEGRITY* - it's just not possible.

@tony1685

Жыл бұрын

@@thecatechumen Christians wisely start with a foundation, friend. God has Ten Commandments, written in Stone - the Stone a wise man builds his house upon, with Christ as the Cornerstone. but since you deny even this foundation, you're in the same boat as Lucifer was - headed to disaster, unfortunately. see Exodus 20:8-11 - you're a day too late!

Does Roman Catholicism accept and abide by the oral traditions of the Pharisees, and if not, why not?

@PatrickInCayman

9 ай бұрын

Jesus said to listen to them, but not do as they do as they preach but do not practice. The main issue there was their behavior, not necessarily all of their traditions per say.

*Sola Scriptura DOES NOT REJECT traditions of Jesus and Apostles. 2 Thes **2:15**. SS merely REJECTS all man made unbiblical traditions of men, Mat 15, 23, Mark 7; such as those of Pharisees and Roman Catholic ct.* you said 2 Thessalonians 2:15, "Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you were taught, whether by word or our epistle." Sola Scripture is a self falsifying position.

Thankyou for your support of our Catholic Faith. It is in real jeopardy. Christ had inspired your conversion.

I can agree that the bible can't do much without the holy spirit. But I would say it's paired with the holy spirit dwelling inside the READER for proper understanding. Yes, God gave us a mind and he can bless us directly with understanding! I know this was my personal experience. Before I truly believed, reading the bible was a chore and I didn't really get it. Then when I began to believe, understanding started flowing at an enormous rate! Now I just GET IT.

​ @sevenpak *Bible does not teach "you just have to be in the state of grace to be saved". WHere in the Bible says that?* *Bible teaches "believe in Jesus to be saved" John 3:16, Eph 2:8-9.* you said you just have to be in the state of grace to be saved

the New Testament is a list of books, and that list was created in AD 382. So, the New Testament did not exist before AD 382.

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

The books of the New Testament were written before AD 382, and so were a lot of other Christian writings as well. But, the problem was, which writings were which? Of course, some writings were known from the beginning who wrote them, such as Paul's epistles. But other writings were anonymous, such as the Gospels and Hebrews. It is still unknown who wrote Hebrews, but we have the Sacred Tradition in the Catholic Church to tell us that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the Gospels. It is true, then, that as a recognized list, canon, the New Testament as we know it didn't exist until AD 382. And the NT certainly wasn't all under one cover, but was a disparate collection of scrolls in the earliest days.

@fantasia55

5 ай бұрын

@@user-nz8xr3wq9p Paul wrote at least one epistle that did not make it into the New Testament.

It seems to me that categorizing "Scripture" as separate from Tradition is not the best way to think about the Bible. Any time "the Scriptures" are mentioned in the Gospels refers to the Old Testament. It cannot refer to what we call "the Bible" because the New Testament had yet to be written during the life of Jesus. Statements about the authority of "the Scriptures," therefore cannot refer to anything in the New Testament, except by extension of the term after the fact. Therefore there is no "Scripture and Tradition," there is *only* Tradition, of which the Torah, the Prophets, Old Testament poetry and wisdom books, the Gospels, the Epistles, and the Apocalypse of St. John, collectively "the Bible," is a part. Even calling the Bible "the Word of God" is only by analogy because the Word of God, the Logos, is Christ Himself. It is true that the Church is both temporally and ontologically prior to the Bible, but what is more is that the Bible exists *for the Church,* and only in the context of the Church can the contents of the Bible be properly understood. Why do we have the New Testament in the first place? We have it because the Apostles were getting martyred and it seemed that Jesus' return might not actually be within that generation; the authentic teaching of the Apostles, which they received from Jesus, therefore, needed to be preserved. Consider that the Epistles were written because, even in the time of the Apostles, Christians were going astray and St. Paul needed to set them straight. Since he couldn't be everywhere, he wrote letters to the various churches to do so. We have the Gospels because we wanted the testimony of eyewitnesses to Jesus' life, teachings, Crucifixion and Resurrection for the same reason why we have rules of evidence that exclude hearsay. From the beginning, therefore, the collection of documents that we consider the New Testament existed for the Church as a tool to be used within herself. Separating "Scripture" from "Tradition" as though it were something different is why we get Sola Scriptura in the first place. It is this division of Scripture and Tradition that opens the door to people thinking that the Bible is a manual for DIY Christianity. The proponents of Sola Scriptura might say, "Sure, someone could watch the KZread video ("Tradition") but it is unnecessary because it is only there for people who can't be bothered to read the manual." They can think this way only because we categorize the Bible as something that can be separated from, or used as another authority to, the Church.

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

Yes, even belief in the Bible is tradition.@@po18guy

I haven't gotten through the whole video yet, but I do want to make one objection and forgive me if you adress it latter. Im not sure where you get the idea that Protestants do not believe that the apostles oral teaching was also authoritative, I for one certainly do. Ill include some quotes from Martin Chemnitz commenting on 2 Thesselonians 2:15 where he talks about this, "A man of God who holds to Paul's traditions is complete in his ministry ect and he who holds the divinely inspired scripture is complete in his ministry because it is the same doctrine which at first was transmitted by word of mouth and later comprehended in writings" examination of the council of trent book I pg 139 "It is undeniably the teuest of axioms that that alome is true doctrine which the apostles transmited and which the church recived from the apostles. But the question is rather that doctrine is another and diffrent from that which is comprehended in scripture" examination of the council of trent vol I page 225 The real disagreement is not over rather or not the apostles oral teaching was authoritative, it was. The question is rather or not the apostles taught anything that was not also taught in scripture. This is important becuse when Irrenaus for instance cites the tradition of the apostles he is usually talking about things that are also contained in writing in the scriptures. I hope this helps to clarify the protestant position a bit, its possible not all prots will agree with chemnitz also but I thought id bring it up.

The problem with spoken word is that it's gone the moment the person stops talking. Written word can be passed on for thousands of years word for word. So the problem is not the MODE but the preservation ability.

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

The spoken word is not gone, but lives on in the hearers' memory. Heck, if the spoken word is gone the moment the person stops speaking, then Jesus' word was gone the moment He stopped speaking! So I guess we don't know what Jesus said after all. Too bad.

Catholics from Philippines

Your reference to people hearing God's Word from Paul, you know I've thought about this. I think when we become born again Christians and get the same spirit dwelling within us, we do transmit the true message with our own speech. When you hear a Christian speak, in a way, you're hearing the word of God in the same way that Paul spoke. Maybe that's what it means. So I guess I would say this would apply to any born again Christian speaking truth, not simply the people at the top of a certain organization.

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Great video! I watch from beginning to end 🙂. Hope you’ll come visit us at Saint Damien’s sometime. We’d love to meet you.

Ok so let's say there were some oral traditions legitimately passed down. I would need to see evidence of this. Some kind of ancient manuscripts alluding to this fact.

@user-fl5td5uk5h

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Of Course. Read through the Father's.

*95% of R Church doctrines were unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Jesus, Apostles and Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose "God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary veneration of saints and statues celibacy of priesthood canonization of saints limbo

No books can be added or removed from the canon. It's a bad argument. We only have new testament books that were written in the time of the apostles in the canon. All those books do not have contradiction, and there is no debate about it. If anyone tried to add a different book to the canon, that wouldn't be possible because it would contradict all other books. The scripture is beautiful in this way that there are no contradictions from many different writers because the author is one

@user-nz8xr3wq9p

5 ай бұрын

Bart Ehrmann says there are plenty of contradictions in the New Testament.

Dear brother in Christ, as you can see in the amount of visits and "likes", two things: the thirst and need for enlightenment and also that you may not see the fruits of what the Lord is doing through you but that will in your heart from Him I and many are thanking our Father for it. James 1:17

Excellent video. Jesus established one Church. It’s in the Bible. Christ’s Church became known as the Catholic Church by 107 A.D. but probably before that. Once I started thinking for myself as an evangelical I saw the inconsistencies of Sola Scriptura and what my preacher teachers taught so I left protestantism. I’m happily back home in Christ’s Church, the one holy catholic and apostolic Catholic Church.

@tony1685

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_'Jesus established one Church.'_ - and its criteria is written in 1 Tim 3:15 - why don't you believe it? there are no inconsistencies with *Sola Scriptura* - would you like it proven? do you have anything comparable to God's Word, which = Truth - John 17:17 ??

@Spiritof76Catholic

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@@tony1685 Amen. I believe every “Word” of 1 Tim 3:15 and John 17:17 just not the way you do and my Sola Scriptura is better than yours. If I remember it was my evangelical or one of my other protestant preachers who told me Luther “made up” Sola Scriptura and it was not Biblical. He said Luther berated those who didn’t believe what he believed he found in Sacred Scripture and neither do we as good Bible believing Christians. And so on and so on until now you have hundreds, thousands of protestant denominations teaching the inconsistency of Sola Scriptura.

@tony1685

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@@Spiritof76Catholic Sola Scriptura isn't at all difficult - Bible has interpretation rules to It - but if you don't follow Them, then you surely won't grasp the basics. tell me one thing comparable and as reliable as His Word of Truth - John 17:17

@PatrickInCayman

9 ай бұрын

@@tony1685 Sola Scriptura is the man-made religion of 16th century heretics.

@tony1685

9 ай бұрын

@@PatrickInCayman again - please name *ONE THING* comparable to God's Word. anything.

You seem to have a very trusting view of the Catholic church. You seem to think that all their claims WERE there from the beginning, but just articulated more clearly! I beg to differ, sir! I do indeed beg to differ!