Intolerable Cretins is a phrase not used enough IMHO! 😄😄

@SorcherFepp

Жыл бұрын

I am an intolerable cretins! 😂 Love it!!

in porsche's defence, they use quite an aggressive grippy tyre for an ev (ps4 or ps4s can't tell with certainty from the static shots) and as stated by you james the grip is tenacious, most evs use much harder less grippy tyres to get greater efficiency. A few years ago Jason cammisa did a test with his e golf where he fitted ps4s to it, from bridgestone ecopias, and range dropped from 140 miles to under 100, of cource gains to cornering g forces where almost inversed to the range drop (from 0.77g to 1g). Range and efficiency can increase drastically i believe but the trade off would be performance security and driving confidence.

@pqvid

Жыл бұрын

Don't think that's true to such an effect. To some degree, for sure. But 40% is definitely way, way too much. BTW, Tesla delivers its Model 3 with PS4 on the standard 18", and Model Y with PS4 if you go for the optional 20" wheels. No efficiency drawbacks due to PS4 at all. In the test you quoted, can it be that they went with different wheels and wheel sizes? (Just thinking, because PS4S is not available in all sizes, specifically smaller ones). Now, _that_ can be the difference. But even that can not explain 40% less range, not even near. Even going for winter wheels, which is completely different material, structure and pattern - I suffer mostly a 10% loss, all other values being equal.

@apostolis2939

Жыл бұрын

@@pqvid Yes, in the e golf test they went from 205 to 225 and an inch increase in wheel diameter (so heavier wheels). One more think to consider is that OE tyres are very different to off the shelf tyres, ev tuned tyres even when they are performance tyres take efficiency, noise and load much more seriously than other applications, I guess the taycan would benefit from that as well but maybe porsche has different requirements for other parameters (wet performance etc) that might effect range.

Loved the video & your honesty in all content. Part of me thinks we are going backwards with new cars. Too many manufacturers think cars are screens/top speed. Sports cars are meant to feel light, gt cars are should feel comfortable & luxurious. Luxury is wood/artistic design as well as pure refinement and comfort. Evs just feel like smartphones on wheels sadly as good as some are.

@felipefernandezlomas6770

Жыл бұрын

I agree. However, I find ICE vehicles, especially newer ones, have just been ruined by the regulations. Years and years of Diesel particulate filter issues and now they're fitting fparticulate filters to Petrol. My sister has a new sportage and constantly having filter issues. Not to mention rev limiters and stuff like that. Granted, my jag runs pretty well but I use premium fuel, with Ecomax in every tank and over-service it. If I could afford a Taycan or something like that, I probably would

@kees6816

Жыл бұрын

Have you driven a Taycan?

@arslan479

Жыл бұрын

@@kees6816 im guessing its superb but you get the feeling that at times they can do better. I only say that when you consider attention to detail in say 911 turbo. What about yourself, any experiences?

@pauldavies6037

6 ай бұрын

@@kees6816 How many many people can afford one?

@pauldavies6037

6 ай бұрын

100% agree

When it was first released Porsche explained the brakes this way. Instead of implementing regenerative braking when you get off the accelerator pedal, they implement it when you step on the brakes, and attempt to seamlessly integrate the conventional (friction) brakes as you demand more braking. That car probably has some calibration issues.

Gentle warning to anyone thinking of buying a Taycan, they are one of the fastest depreciating cars, even new ones are going for under list now

@thewaldfe9763

Жыл бұрын

I suppose people are aware the next generation of EVs will be significantly better, nobody will want the old ones anymore.

@easyonenow

7 ай бұрын

​​@@thewaldfe9763and the same will be true of the next one and the next....

Nice vid. Please keep the honest reviews! It really feels like so many reviews are either just boring and do not want to stick their necks out or in fear of the big brands.

I’ve got a 4S GT Taycan and despite coming from an F90 M5 it’s a brilliant machine that never disappoints when driving. I drive a lot of miles and charging currently isn’t a problem, sure the mileage is lower in the winter but currently I’m looking at 260 miles on a full charge and I don’t drive slowly! A great review, and I agree as the MK1 EV’s they are great but could do with some improvements.

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

So EVs are destroying the environment and bankrupting all nations (causing untold human misery and taking away our ability to invest in CO2-reducing projects), and the range of even these most expensive huge-battery environmental disasters is not good! Wow, I wonder how massive the costs of this latest "environmentalist" mistake will be before our course is corrected away from this disaster! This will go down in history as one of the most terrible mistakes, global scams ever. The anti-nuclear and destruction of oil and natural gas producing capacities like in Germany's "Energiewende" has already been a catastrophic mistake, but this EV scheme will far surpass it in its destructive consequences!

@benjimc1

Жыл бұрын

What do you call a lot of miles? I have done 35k this past yr worth my EV, no home charger. Infrastructure is a right headache for me tbh... Driving an eC4 in the winter my range went from 180 in summer to 100 in winter and battery Deg is 6% currently so my range now in summer again is around 165/170

@TheRealAnthony_real

8 ай бұрын

Me reading your comment behind the wheel of an f90 M5 heavily moded 😂 ... thinking of getting the GTS sport turismo as my company's end of year approaches 😅 but after this review not sure .. and then your comment 😂😂😂

@mogsyman

8 ай бұрын

@@TheRealAnthony_real It's no M5, but it's a brilliant car! To be honest, the BIK was the tipping point, it's a no-brainer.

@TheMaximBond

6 ай бұрын

So how do you find it after the old M5? Handling? Refinement? Easy to use in town?

Love your reviews and had to comment on the hilarious ‘intolerable cretins’! Although, truth be told, I may need to find a local chapter of IC Anonymous as I love the design of the Cross Turismo 😊

Well James, you’ve smashed my dreams with your honest analysis. Thank you!

@kevinwhite8836

Жыл бұрын

Don't believe everything said, the Taycan is an amazing car and most likely the best all round EV out there to date. The handling makes this car far superior to most and it is a real head turner. Not sure what James is talking about in regards to quality, mine is amazing, although I do have the non-leather option, which I prefer. Yes it is not perfect, name me a car that is, but it gets pretty close using current EV tech available. The range is not amazing compared to a say a Tesla Model S Plaid, however even the Turbo S can achieve 200+ miles with a bit of spirited driving thrown in. Let's face it, how often do most of us travel more than that day to day? If you do, I doubt you would be in the market for a Taycan anyway!

@deanhart8154

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinwhite8836 I agree it's the best EV for my driving style. Trying to resist being an early adopter of a developing technology!

@kevinwhite8836

Жыл бұрын

@deanhart8154 yes, but it is a bit like any tech really, laptops, phones, tv's, as soon as you buy one it is out of date and there is always new developments. You have to bite the bullet at some point though and go for it.

@deanhart8154

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinwhite8836 I f I was to replace my 2019 BMW i3s and 2012 911 Turbo today, it would be a Tacan GTS Sport Turismo

@andrewpreston5046

3 ай бұрын

@@deanhart8154 BMW i8Roadster for the win, get one while you can 😉

Every time I see any EV (Taycan included) on the Danish Motorways or the German Autobahn, is sitting behind a lorry. Makes me smile when I cruise effortlessly by them at 200km/h in my humble 2l Bimmer diesel 😂. If that’s the future of cars, then I don’t want to be a part of it.

@pauldavies6037

Жыл бұрын

Yes at 200kmh will use twice as much electricity than at 100 no gears the motor goes twice as fast

@charliehmi76

9 ай бұрын

Yes I see that a lot here too. The future (currently) is taking an hour or so longer to get anywhere - and spending more on coffee/ donuts as there's nothing else to do whilst charging..

@Nord_Mann

6 ай бұрын

@@pauldavies6037the Taycan has a 2-speed gearbox where the higher gear kicks in at 120kph at full throttle. That’s why it gets great consumption. Over 60000km I had an average of 19,7kwh/100km, or 3,15mi/kWh

@pauldavies6037

6 ай бұрын

@@Nord_Mann Ah a gearbox that's a good idea just like the ICE cars

@starcam22

Ай бұрын

@@Nord_Mann OK, not so great, mine 4S : 47000 km, 16 kW/100km

using turbo in the Model name does show the level of unashamed consumerism in Porsche marketing .

@GT380man

3 ай бұрын

It’s embarrassing. You’d have to specify deleting the designation. And it needs to be in bright metal.

A rather inglorious end for that KA at the start if I say so myself.

There seem to be a load of 60K 3 year old Taycans on Autotrader, which is sort of tempting, but shows the bullet proof residuals of Porsche aren’t wholly out of the massive drop in £ of EV cars overall. (Tempting to try an EV if you like)….but will stick to my Diesel SQ5 at the moment

I’m currently travelling through Norway, which means that I’ve seen - apart from simply every other EV on the market - more Taycans in the last weeks than I did in my life before. The Sports Turismo really starts to grow on me.

@boundish1

Жыл бұрын

Porsche has sold more Taycans in Norway since it launched than they have sold other models since 2003.

@pauldavies6037

6 ай бұрын

@@boundish1 some very rich people in Norway

Fascinating, Yet Cautionary… Thank You

Would normally not watch anything about EVs. However because it's one of Jay's reviews, I will come back and watch it later...... I need time to build up😂😂

@goldreverre

Жыл бұрын

As an owner of both an Aston Martin and a Tesla model 3, there's nothing to be scared of. EV's are great. The AM is beautiful, engaging, luxurious and feels very special to drive, but the Tesla is quicker and smoother. As a bonus, it needs no maintenance.

@richardharrold9736

Жыл бұрын

​@@goldreverreeh? Teslas require a lot of maintenance, they're one of the least reliable cars on the road.

@minatormyth

Жыл бұрын

​@@goldreverre it's not a case of being scared of anything brother. Its a case me not worshiping at the alter of the religion of climate change. I would be happy to try anything, but not by coercion by the wef and governments.

@minatormyth

Жыл бұрын

Oh, if the tesla need no maintenance, what's with all the service centers?

Had a Taycan Turbo S on order and had the demonstrator for a weekend. The first few hours playing with acceleration were amazing but i imagine soon wears off. In the end I couldn't justify spend £170k as specified with a winter range showing of 170 miles. Took it back said no thanks and bought a 992 GTS and kept my 4 year old Panamera.

Good review . Common sense is your forte . Well done

A UK winter isn’t a Canadian winter - with Canadian driving distances. 500-600 Km in -35-40C weather is not something an EV can do - safely - -40 is life-threateningly cold.

Well done for saying tea not dinner! At least someone speaks proper!

Another enjoyable video James. I had a look at a couple of Approved Used Taycans at my local Porsche dealership. I was looking to change my current 911 for one. In the end I just couldn’t do it; the economy/range being the initial issue for me. I have been subsequently keeping an eye on Porsche’s used car website. Their dealers have a huge glut of these cars. The 2 that I looked at are still available, several months on, and have had price reductions in that time. I would appear to me that Porsche are having a hard time shifting them presently. The very recent news about VW’s woes concerning over-prediction of demand for EVs is unlikely to reassure buyers about EVs generally. I’ll stick with my 911.

@moStallion

Жыл бұрын

Fuel > electricity

@autobahnproven

Жыл бұрын

Great choice to stick with your 911. As you undoubtedly know, Porsche is in the synthetic fuels business. Over the next few years, we should be able to fill our cars with petrol... made out of thin air!

@doctorleitz4795

Жыл бұрын

@@autobahnproven Absolutely. I am in Germany with my 911 at the moment. Yesterday I ended up chatting to a nice guy with a brand new viper green 992 GT3 RS in a car park (haven’t seen one yet in UK). He had several other 911s too, lucky man. The point of all this that he’d had a Taycan Turbo S and was scathing. He’d lost loads of money on it, and he said ‘he couldn’t even get to Hamburg on 1 f***g charge’. That’s around 150 miles from where we were chatting.

@autobahnproven

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorleitz4795 agree completely. I no longer live in Germany but when I did, owned a few Porsche 928s and used them to travel long distances at then very high speeds - 290 almost daily. Refuelling at a Rasthof in less than 5 minutes including exiting and re-entering the Autobahn. Electric cars just cannot compete. Even Porsche electric cars are limited to 250km/h. Who in their right mind buys a PORSCHE with a speed limiter?

@jak493

Жыл бұрын

There may be a glut but there are more 911’s, Cayennes etc

Porsche is my favourite manufacturer, but boy do they know how to charge for things that should come as standard.

I do like the look of the Audi. I saw one yesterday- beautiful.

you're such a great and eloquent presenter, it's a joy to consume your content. now if only you could speak german, too. our presenters are rubbish, both on tv and yt, and i've been wondering for years as to why that is ... also i'm 29 and have never sat in an ev, let alone driven one. nobody among my family or acquaintances owns an ev. i reckon the acceleration would blow my mind. i'm shocked to see the state of the taycan's interior though. even if i had the money ... no ...

@simonjones5614

Жыл бұрын

He can speak German. He did a funny skit once but I cannot recall the car!

Thanks J 🙏🙏

Jay , I am a self confessed petrol head with two thirsty petrol cars which I love and would not part with. Earlier this year I added a Taycan Turbo for daily use, including several long journeys up the M1 of over 300 miles each way. Having a home charger (just a 7kw) is a must if you want to run an EV as a daily, especially if, like me you don’t have a charger at work. I take your point on the Porsche charge card and I agree, depending on where you live and the journeys you want to take, this is only useful some of the time. However, personally I have not had a problem so far in the 17,000 miles I have driven in the Taycan this year , primarily due to home charging giving me a full (85%) charge each evening. Where I do disagree is with your assessment of the efficiency, I regularly get 2.9-3.3 miler per KWH out of mine in the summer and that has dropped to 2.5 milers per kWh in the colder months. Setting the car’s timer prepares the battery for a journey and warms it up sufficiently to improve the efficiency I think, in the same way it does before a planned charging stop. The brakes also take a bit of getting used to the ceramics do need warming up a bit after a long wet motorway journey. Keep up the good work, love the Chanel.

Loving the burnt out wreck at 2:16 in the corner of frame.

We have an Ioniq 5 Namsan and 992 911 GTS and tried a Taycan as apposed to running 2 cars and your review is spot-on. Thank you! The I5 is amazing as a family run-about (shops, school run, odd day out), charged at home and offers amazing value for money. It actually replaced a Macan S (priced about the same without options) and as a "family work horse" the I5, for us, wins easy and our running costs have been massively reduced. The manual 911 on the other hand is my fun exciting car for hunting B roads and the odd "driving" day trip. Would I have an EV as my only car OR replace both cars with a Taycan? No, never, for every reason you highlighted. But I'd also struggle with a 911 as our only car. But that's why cars like the RS6, M3 touring, GTC4 Lusso, and EVEN the Panamera (which I tried and really didnt like) exist and are not EVs.

@georgeholloway3981

Жыл бұрын

Never? Or maybe not yet?

@mattsurrey6138

Жыл бұрын

@@georgeholloway3981 Maybe see what happens to E-fuel or Hydrogen. I don't like the idea of needing an EV to get somewhere in an emergency and find its on 15%. While I find EVs very relaxing to drive, like many new cars they miss the theater of a performance ICE car that makes you want to drive for the sake of driving.

@MrMarkusmulder

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and best regards 🎉😊

@bensmithkent22

Жыл бұрын

Matt from surrey is considerably richer than yow.

👏 Well done. First time I've heard the efficiency of EV's discussed in real terms and the issue of the 7kW wall charger limit. It makes the point of a 90kwh battery less useful as anything over 42kW means it takes over 6hrs to charge and you'll be using expensive electricity. This is one of the reasons I love my i3S REX that will genuinely do 4.5mi/kwh summer and 3.5-3.8mi/kwh winter. Without making any effort to drive efficiently beyond looking ahead and using regeneration rather than braking.. which I would anyway. It can charge its 33kWh battery easily at night and at 7.5p it works out about 2p per mile or 1/5th the cost of running a diesel. I do less than 100miles daily so I run fully electric 99% of the time. If I have to drive 250miles in a day I run the on-board range extender and I generally get the equivalent to about a 70mpg petrol car by leaving 25% in the battery for comfort and doing the rest on petrol power. It's also if anything MORE fun to drive than a Taycan even if I do love the power and grip in the Porsche. Generally I've been disappointed by them do far. BMW are way ahead

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

Too bad EVs are massively more expensive through all its secondary costs, and your tax bill as well as electricity prices as well as all price hikes due to the inflation EVs cause will cost you many times more than the difference in direct operating costs. EVs will basically bankrupt the nation...so your slightly cheaper electricity (because it's not taxed like fuels are) won't help you.

@poff9345

Жыл бұрын

@pistonburner6448 I think of the many factors causing inflation, tax breaks on EV's are small and worthwhile part. Plus, inflation affects everyone equally, so I might as well lower my living costs. Due to it being a primary sales driver, EV's are also manufactured with far greater consideration to lifecycle energy costs. There is fundamentally nothing stopping the manufacture of ICE cars being made a lot greener, but the motivation isn't there. So EV cars are actually making a much larger positive impact than their lack of tailpipe emissions. However, you cannot escape the fact that in operation ICE cars are far less thermally efficient than EV's, the waste heat, lubricants such as oil and increased wear on mechanical components mean the cost to global resources for running ICE vehicles are unfortunately and enviably higher. Being untethered from a single energy source also means there is far more future opportunity to improve the efficiency of the energy used to power the vehicles. I'm a petrol head, I love ICE cars and I own a Lotus I love and enjoy, but it's no hardship to do my dull, rush hour commute, in an EV and that's 9/10ths of the miles I do in a year. There are millions and millions of people who aren't petrol heads and still enjoy the luxury and freedom a vehicle provides. If we can reduce the energy it takes for us all to enjoy this luxury then we don't have to live in grass huts like hippies to be more in tune with our planet.

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

@@poff9345 Wow, that was a whole lot of made-up *_total nonsense_* !! Shame on you for lying to me like that! Just absolutely childish totally made-up nonsense. You even managed to add in that identifier of someone who has absolutely no clue about this subject, science, engineering, physics, chemistry, nothing: that mention of "efficiency" which is a nonsense false term only used by the ignorant. "Efficiency" is *_totally irrelevant_* , it's a totally unintelligent thing to even look at since there are *_only two factors_* which matter: 1. The overall CO2 emitted. This includes everything in energy production, manufacture of the car, all the surrounding infrastructure needed, use of the car, and end-of-life recycling. 2. Cost. This includes all the costs of subsidies, infrastructure, power plants, changes in tax revenue (ICE are cheap *_and_* generate massive tax revenue while EVs are the opposite: they require *_massive_* amounts of taxpayer money to aid them and despite that they're still massively more expensive)... Those two factors are the *_only_* things that matter, and everything else is irrelevant. Well, the weight of EVs causes added road deaths and injuries, as well as road wear too, but let's keep to the basics and the core of the subject.

@sagalout

Жыл бұрын

@@pistonburner6448EV’s are responsible for inflation? I’ve heard it all now 😂

I owned a Taycan briefly but got rid of it as it failed and at the time Porsche didn't know how to fix it. There were no end of issues with early Taycans, but I think those have all been ironed out now (ignoring the heater issues that prevailed a few months ago). It is the best EV available today and this review gives a very good idea of what ownership is like. I might buy another now that they're more reliable, but there's no getting away from the fact they're very large and don't fit many UK parking spaces (true of Panameras and Bentleys etc too). I have a 992 version of the 911 currently and it suits me perfectly. The Taycan will probably depreciate less than the e-tron GT and who'd choose an Audi badge over a Porsche?

@milootje007

Жыл бұрын

Apparently the Taycan's depreciation is not good at all. I've debated buying one (a cross turismo) a few years ago but couldn't get one, i did test drive one and i found the ride and feel very impressive. I went with the combination of a Ford F150 and a 911GT3 so you won't hear me complaining lol

@matthewgodwin3050

11 ай бұрын

@@milootje007 I've heard reports of people losing 50% of the car's value in less than a year, and apparently dealers are refusing to take any EV in part exchange as used examples just don't sell. This is pretty scary, no wonder people are so reluctant to buy into the whole EV thing.

Interesting review Currently looking to get solar installed on my house with a powerwall and an EV charger and without doing my research thought i could just have a 22kw charger and not have the issues you discussed But not many houses if any have the 3 phase required for a 22kw charger So 7kw is realistically the best home charging will be 😢 But every cloud and that could be the excuse i need to keep hold of my old 911 and use the EV ( still undecided wether it will be a taycan or a tesla) for the daily kid slugger etc

28:35 I'm rather looking forwards to "range extender" hybrid EVs, done right. There is still a lot of fuel efficiency left on the table.

A couple of years ago James, you did a review of a Lexus LS430. Based on this review I bought a 2005 model, which I love. The more I see reviews of these EV’s the more I prefer my old analog car. Simple, cheap to run and lovely. To me, EV’s are just Tatt.

@richardharrold9736

Жыл бұрын

He did an LS430 review literally just this week...

Just checked my personal list of six figure dream cars...Emira, check. 718 GTS, check. Taycan?..MIA. As in no thank you. I respect the tech, but it leaves me cold. And that's before watching this well crafted review.

7:01 my heart went into my throat thinking that van was going to cut him off.

@beardedtit7692

Жыл бұрын

Same!

I’m looking forward to you giving the new 5 series a ruddy good going over

Fast depreciation means the EV will not be cheaper than a petrol or diesel!

Hope you get to review the new Cayenne with the Mojave beige interior, matte carbon and neodyme trim and panoramic roof. My new favorite suv because the options.

@EvoraGT430

Жыл бұрын

Not the driving experience, then. See the problem with modern Porsches/SUVs/cars generally?

@Madness-te7dr

Жыл бұрын

@@EvoraGT430it’s an SUV, I’d buy it for the practicality, height, luxury and it’s also the best handling of all suvs. But if I could afford one I’d have other cars for the driving experience. Like a 991.2 GT3

Really like this car. Interested to see how u find it

When I had the Tesla Model Y it was costing me about £25 a time to charge for about 180 miles of range and the time was a joke at every point!

great 'real world' review

My Cayenne Diesel S is so much cheaper to run. Easy to get in and out. Best interior on any Porsche and a range of 700+ miles. EVs are a lousy con, unless they’re very small and you travel 10 miles to work & back. Madness! And let’s see how these perform, if they ever reach 140,000 miles. Which is what my faultless Cayenne has done. Good for the planet my posterior!

@domtdoodar99

Жыл бұрын

If you have off street parking an EV is cheaper to run

@benjimc1

Жыл бұрын

​@@domtdoodar99but how much does it cost to buy in the first place...

@domtdoodar99

Жыл бұрын

@@benjimc1 i don’t know what year his cayenne is but its a Porsche, there are many ev’s available for cheaper than a porsche

@benjimc1

Жыл бұрын

@@domtdoodar99 but not equivalent spec or quality for the same money

@domtdoodar99

Жыл бұрын

@@benjimc1 there may be depending on how much its worth

Very nearly bought one of these… same views as you so I didn’t end up doing so! Instead bought a model S and never looked back!

The economics for me are much better. I'm driving a BMW i4 in southern Europe, in hilly country. It's summer so temperatures are on the warm side (25-35c). I get 5.5km/kWh on a mix of town, country and motorway driving, and with charging at home at €0.14 per kWh, that works out to around €23 per 1000km. I'll soon have a solar PV and battery setup so the charging cost should drop to next to nothing for everyday driving. It's a lot cheaper than my diesel BMW 5. But I do drive with economy in mind.

Thank you for you opinion on EV cars. Petrol it is for now.

0:59 cheeky footage from ur cayenne turbo s e hybrid review

Well Jay, after lovingly saying you reminded me of Uncle Buck with your long coat on a few years ago- you have got your own back on me as I pick my GTS up on Tues and by 15mins in, I feel crap!

@kevinwhite8836

Жыл бұрын

Don't, you will absolutely love it. The Taycan is probably the best all round EV out there and ticks almost every box. Hopefully you ticked the rear wheel steering though, as it really transforms the car (you will still think it is good without it though if you haven't driven one with it 🙂). Honestly, I have driven a number of EV's and this is the best so far that I have experienced.

@jak493

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive news. It does have rear wheal thankfully as I thought it was a long car and it would help. A few more sleeps to go….

@kees6816

Жыл бұрын

Taycan is a fantastic car to drive. Trading my 718 Spyder in. Don’t regret it!

Sounds like a golf cart. Does Porsche pipe that noise into the cabin for an extra charge?

The Taycan isn't ugly enough to be a proper EV so they had to make the Cross Turismo 🙄

I'm the owner of a GTS Sport Turismo in Norway. My summer consumption hovers around 3 miles per kWh with 21" wheels, winter (normally mild, 20" wheels around 2.5 miles. Probably less motorways than you did, that may make the difference,

Jay, just for info, chapters in the video don’t seem to be working. Great video 👍

Does that Taycan have a heat pump or resistive heating? That can make a big difference to cold weather range.

I have a Taycan Turbo and don't agree with your assesment of the car in general but I do agree that the brakes are weird. It feels like it's something to do with the point the braking it flips from regenarative to friction brakes. I had a Tesla before and they were far more progressive even though they were ultimately not as powerful.

I think you probably have not spent enough time in this car James. They are amazing day to day. A few points, the Bose system, did you adjust any of the settings and equaliser? A few changes make all the difference. Journalists always rave about the Tesla sound system, which to be fair is pretty good, but the Bose isn't far behind at all and will be fine for most people (if you want quality, you go aftermarket and customise with far superior equipment than Bose or Burmeister). The interior is great, I am not sure if you just had a very poorly optioned one (if it had the GTS interior, it should be pretty good). I am lucky to have owned quite a few quality EV's or borrowed them and the Taycan is up there with the best of them in terms of quality. A few of the luxury EVs may be a bit higher quality Merc EQS etc, however they are aimed at a different market. Admittedly, you definitely need the panoramic roof and yes that lower screen is just useless. Not noticed many quality issues, the main thing I found is the headlights seem prone to small chips or a sandblasting look and driver seat has a squeak if fully lowered to floor. As a car though, I have not driven a better EV to date, the handling makes the Taycan stand out even if the tech is a little outdated compared to a Tesla.

I had Bose in my MK1 TT and it was excellent. The speakers being made by…Bose. Apparently the latest ‘Bose’ setups don’t actually use Bose speakers! It’s just a Bose sticker on a cheap speaker. Take a grille off and have a look.

That options list is absurd. My ST220 had foldaway mirrors, five leather seats, and moveable air vents as standard...

So in the intro Emma jumped out of the car grabbed the camera off the tripod to film the crash... Such focus, commitment and sheer will...

@richardharrold9736

Жыл бұрын

James films his own drive-by shots with another driver driving (usually the car's owner, no idea who drives the press cars).

@WONMARK

Жыл бұрын

@@richardharrold9736 Thanks... Meant it as a joke(albeit a not so good one as it turns out) but from it I've learned this.

Porsche have some cheek not to include half of those things as standards! No Folding dimming mirrors, no Bose. , jeeez. Also at 2.3 tons with huge wide tyres, it's not surprising it has good traction.

At 110,000 miles on our 440 hp 2014 Tesla P85 performance, our ownership experience has been excellent, mainly because there are over 100 Tesla Super charging stations across the UK with over 1000 stalls, mostly charging at 150Kw and, because Supercharging is free for life on pre 2017 Teslas, it has been a zero cost for fuel. We have had to wait for a stall no more than half a dozen times, they always work and there is almost always a cafe for a cuppa. I reccon thats something like a £35,000 saving on petrol for a similaly sized car. Off to Rome next week...

@JayEmmOnCars

Жыл бұрын

Which is great, but the "free supercharging" thing no longer applies to the vast majority of even Tesla customers

@jamespink4202

Жыл бұрын

@@JayEmmOnCars Cars resold through the Tesla dealerships have it disabled but for £30k+ there are still plenty available with a search. Met a guy last week with a 2017 model X with it...

Brilliantly well balanced as usual James. I am a petrolhead as well as an EV evangelist but I honestly cannot recommend an EV to anyone at present especially if they do not have a home charger. And yes EFFICIENCY is THE most important thing going forward for EVs. But it has become worryingly expensive at public rapid chargers (suspiciously so...). They (the new charge networks) just want to transfer the high petrol prices to electricity prices but electricity CANNOT cost as much as petrol/diesel and all the transport and storage costs involved getting the fuel from around the world to the petrol station. But as a homeowner with garage and driveway and ability to install solar panels and a Tesla storage battery helps to make running our EVs for free over the summer. That investment will pay for itself within a few years. But not everyone is going to be as lucky as us. The government and charge networks are ballsing it up already. EVs should be for the masses. Cleaner air/less pollution etc

@charliehmi76

9 ай бұрын

Yep. I drive an EV for work in London. No home charger so it's not reasonable for it to be always fully charged at the start of each day. Fine for in the city, but head (not that far) out of town and you have to zoom out a long way on the map to find a rapid charger. Throw in very hot / cold weather and the problems really start...

If you really needong term reviews of the taycan Macmaster channel. He loves his milk float🤣 and does longer journeys. Also with your final to thought about it being a first attempt it seems like with all technology the best time to get into it is as late as possible. Used EV also sounds like it's not going to well either. Thankfully it's something I'll never need.

Was that a Panamera or Cayenne interior at the 1 minute mark? Noticed a central revcounter and shroud that the Taycan does not have

Great video good looking car but and a big but. The car depreciation is frightening like all EVs they are off a cliff.

These EV are dropping like bricks on the re sale market... I have seen these at trade auctions selling for 6ok I think we have seen the end of days for EV as they are a massive lie when saying they are green

@Ma77y_H

Жыл бұрын

Base model yeah for 60 but not a gts

@QFXmusic

Жыл бұрын

@@Ma77y_H NO i have seen turbo and turbo s with massive loss :( People are waking up to the con that is EV

The power figures now are just silly especially when you consider how linear the delivery is too. Imo for me it’s way too much for the road to use it all safely and I o doubt many owners will take them on track.

@ahemgee9542

Жыл бұрын

They need to focus on range over performance, no one needs supercar acceleration in a daily EV, 200-220 miles is pathetic for such an expensive car. The Mercedes EQE/ S and obviously Eqxx are much much better.

@thedetailingdoctor5746

Жыл бұрын

@@ahemgee9542 yes there are better options in terms of range. However a lot of people don’t do many motorway trips and the ones I know of that do a few and can afford a taycan also have a few other cars. So the range thing to the majority of pope actually buying them isn’t an issue. For me I’ve tried EVs the quickest so far a Tesla model 3 dual motor and for me personally it was fun for ten minutes and then was just boring I couldn’t get over not having a proper V8 or similar soundtrack. Also the lack of gears and the build of tourqe as you rev the engine out is completely missing I just can’t gel with it in terms of a fun car. As stupid as it sounds I’d rather a Renault twizzy or similar to nip about town in and have my e46 328i and my x5 4.6is as my distance and fun cars

Never mind calculating VED by engine size or emissions. Anything in the UK that is as wide as a Taycan (that isn't a bus or a lorry) should be punitively taxed.

Had one of these behind me on the Leeds ring road and it couldn't keep up with my 16 year old 1.4 Tdci fiesta. Wonder why..

@peedeegt

Жыл бұрын

Eeeerm, maybe because he wasn’t trying to? 🤦🏻‍♂️

1:00 is that a tach on a taycan 🧐 or wrong footage?

You can get several extended leather packages for the Taycan. A family member has a 4S Sport Turismo with essentially every possible option. Because Even in a Turbo S, none of the “luxury” oriented features are standard. Extended leathers are optional on every model of Taycan. Should at least be standard on the GTS and above really.

Like everything cars, it’s all personal opinion, I like that car a lot, other than the red paint

You could get an LC500 for the same money. Actually the LC is cheaper.

So a Mk 3 Taycan in about 10 years time would be what to have then 👍

What was the 'epic spot' @ 20.37? Aston Martin? Alfa SZ? I can't tell.

It was snowing a week ago? Where?

28:50 you do pay benefit in kind tax on an EV and you don't buy it the company leases it. But it is cheap, for a 52K EV with free electricity at fast chargers or your company installed one at home it's £17 a month BIK. 50% of new cars sold are company cars hence the popularity of EV's, it's a tax no brainer.

@pistonburner6448

Жыл бұрын

Exactly: it's top-down dictated government fascism. Look at who is making money on this, and who is gaining in power. People are cheering as they think they're paying less taxes...not understanding what that means. I mean some people actually think they're really not going to pay as much in taxes, can you believe how clueless they are?! They think someone else is going to pay those taxes for them, that they're not going to be paying all that and more down the line! Not only that, but they haven't figured out how massively more expensive EVs are overall, as even EVs - subsidies add up to much higher prices than ICE + huge amounts of taxes paid! Well, part of the ignorance is understandable as the absolutely astounding amounts of subsidies and tax breaks paid to car manufacturers, charging station companies, grid companies (like the multinational privately owned for-profit energy company who owns the UK grid), electricity producers, etc. is actively hidden from the public (it's been divided up into thousands of separate little subsidies and tax breaks so no-one can gather up all the info and get an overall picture, and they've ordered the corrupt press to hide that info anyway so ...). People really aren't intelligent animals.

Panamera E Hybrid is best at the moment. Taycan surely the future.

I think Porsche should replicate what they did in the Macan lineup for the Taycan and make the GTS the flagship (with the turbo s powertrain) it’s one of the cars where having so many trims doesn’t make sense . Taycan , 4 , 4s and GTS is enough especially as there aren’t really any major mechanical changes

You really prefer the Audi over the Taycan? I don't really like either of them, but I think the Taycan looks more special or unique, that Audi just looks like every other Audi.

If I spent that much money on an interior which frankly looks like a £30-50k car I'd be seriously disappointed. What does it say that some people seem to care more about showing off a fancy electric Porsche than giving themselves a nice place to sit.

Totally love the total bashing you give to Porsche for their dreadfully BORING interiors.... THANK YOU for being really HONEST...👍👍👍

@N1ckZ

Жыл бұрын

I would pick a Porsche interior over anything else any day of the week. What do you consider to be an interesting interior? I don't get it.

@mikadavies660

Жыл бұрын

@N1ckZ Something that is not black on black .... Its £100,000 to £180,000 a Porsche!!, yet the interior looks as interesting as a Seat... As for black plastic window switches (look like they were stolen from a Polo)....!! Come on...!! It's just takin the piss.

I drove to Le Mans this month in my Porsche and had a great drive and I camped on the Porsche Curves and was talking to a group of lads who drove in a group of Porsches and one of them drove in a Taycan which took him an extra 2 hours over the 4 hours that it takes from Calais to Le Mans as he had to charge up along the way in France so certainly not ready yet for a long trip yet

@louisholden5127

Жыл бұрын

Lots of people would happily spend 2 hours walking around a French town to save €120 of petrol. Although if you can find a rapid charger you'd only actually get 20 minutes.

@maryginger4877

Жыл бұрын

In other words a Hillman Imp is faster on long journeys

@louisholden5127

Жыл бұрын

@@maryginger4877 A 2009 Smart 0.8 diesel is about as fast on a long journey as a DBS Superleggera. You buy a nicer car to have a nicer journey, not a quicker one.

@maryginger4877

Жыл бұрын

@@louisholden5127 I think you missed the point, EV need to stop to recharge the battery, and before say fast charges - to many and it invalidates the warranty.

@heiner71

Жыл бұрын

@@louisholden5127 Yup, if speed is your only concerns you may better look into high speed trains or go to the next airport.

Definitely going to look forward to the day when a customer enters a Porsche Showroom and states "I'm an intolerable cretin!!.... 😂😅😂

My results have been slightly different. "Lifetime" average of the 4S Cross Turismo is 2.9 miles per kW. I typically charge for free at work or at a Electrify America, but if I only charged at home, I pay $0.15 a kWh, so lets say I pay roughly $ .06/mile for fuel. With gas between $3.50 and $4.00 a gallon, I'd have to get 50-70mpg to spend the same as a gas car. I prefer my Taycan to any car that makes 50-70mpg.... and besides, I don't think anyone is paying $130k for a car to save money. Also, my brakes have no issues.

Taycan is literally half the efficiency in terms of mi/KWh of a Model 3 due to (among other reasons) Porsche's inclusion of a 2 speed transmission in the rear drive unit. Taycan isn't intended to be a range champion. If you want that, drive a Lucid. EVs are really great for people who have chargers at home and work, but for city dwellers or people who can't modify their homes it's a much tougher proposition. In terms of charging cost- this seems to be a UK specific problem because charging my Model 3 costs 10x less (normalizing for miles driven) than my gas vehicles.

James' press car is GBP118,700. I tried speccing one for myself and even before I finished I already did GBP125k. Granted I went for PTS paint, smooth leather interior and the RS Spyder wheel, but what did you expect from someone whose wardrobe can easily be described as 'floral'. In a few days time I'll be trying an EQS, and having been impressed by Taycan I am interested to see if Mercedes' new electric soap bar can impress me.

@Nickbaldeagle02

Жыл бұрын

I bet the AI assistant was getting excited thinking another sale is imminent.

James, have you spoken to the MacMaster, the other KZreadr who runs a Taycan as a daily. Loves and hates in equal measures. Lee is a lovely bloke and dead honest in his reviews.

@thelifeofbatteries2603

14 күн бұрын

He's a moron

Lol the GTS interior package you like only comes with the black interior you hate

First effort, but not a best effort. Compare to the proprietary technology, packaging and economy in the Lucid Air. How much they offer a driver of a car of similar size and price, in term of everyday practicality (van levels of cargo space, leaving all wagons behind), rarely needing a charge, getting really far on the motorway, etc. But of course, start up company, so crappy software.

What a fantastic review 👏 for me it’s the volatility that electric prices can change as well, lest we forget that prices doubled and then doubled again recently and even if they settle back down again… that precedent has been set

A good all round review this. For all the instamt torque, and the linear power delivery, i just can get excited by electric cars. They are still hampered by the weight and poor power density of the batteries, just like the electric milk floats of my youth.

Guess there's a reason the Bose is a quarter the cost of the Burmester

Best Porsche interior is on the Cayenne 958.2. A button for everything. As it should be, and no silly screens. One of the great cockpits of any car.

Easy way to move people ahead: raise the fuel taxes by 20% to learn the lesson that they have to learn sooner or later. I can charge at home and there is no need for fast charging if you come home at 6 pm and start the other day at 7 am cause 13 hours of even slow charging with just 3 kW will push about 40 kWh that night into the car, good for 200 km the next day. And if I charge from the roof during feeding the surplus into the grid I loose just 8 Cent / kWh or about 1,60€ per 100 km considering an average of 20 kWh / hkm which the Porsche can beat with 15 kWh in one direction and even beyond 40 kWh in the other direction. Depends on how you drive - till the licence might be gone. And that solar power system of the roof which powers the 200 square meter home from the 70s , heats it up during the non summer time and cools it down is about 15000€ here for 25 kWp inkl. a small 8 kWh homestorage. That pays off it self in less than 4 years cause each year it produces surplus I can feed in for about 2000€ and powers the house, heats it up and drives the car , so 27.000 kWh production. You can build that in about 10 days on your own and then you have paid for 25 years free power and no additional energy except on long distance trips to return home. Fast charging with 11 kWh was 250€ more or 150€ more than the usuall granny charger. It all depends , simply as that. And if you still have the luxury to choose then it is time to raise the oil taxes or CO2 emission taxes and pay grants for building a solar array on your roof, carport or whereever you want to go ahead. Here we have to pay each year 5 cent more taxes per liter and guess even you will learn the lesson so fast that your lesson does not end with going electric for the car, but also about your household appliances consumption. You will be able to tell which device consumes what . For all those with low will: remember the most famous canon of WW2 and you will instantly reply 8.8 Be generous and round it up to 9 Take the consumption of the sky receiver which is 12 Watts day in and day out What is the annual consumption of that crappy 247 device or the running computer ? the canon x watt = kWh per year or 12 x 9 = 108 kWh p.a Same for a 1.5 W charger which is about 14 kWh p.a. or a Raspberry pi which usually comes along with 3 W or 27 kWh per year. This is the rule of thumb for all 247 devices or switching devices that run a certain amount of time like every 2 hours for 2 hours which means half of the time or half of the year. Go ahead or get lost cause the age of coal is luckily behind us, the dirt and also the death of those working in the mine which regulary happened across the globe.

@ahemgee9542

Жыл бұрын

Where do you think the metals that are required in vast amounts for the batteries of these EVs come from ? What a clueless fool .

Couldn’t agree more re Porsche extras and poor value. I get the a la carte thing but auto dim mirrors etc as a paid option. Seriously, Porsche?

@JayEmmOnCars

Жыл бұрын

I know right?

So current motorway charge rate 80p Feb 24. 1kwh = 2 miles, 1mile = 40p. Current cost of unleaded £6 per gallon. £6/40p= 15. So thats equivalent to 15 miles per gallon.. Give me a Ferrari FF any day. The problem is that everyone thinks ev's are cheaper to run, but don't understand the maths.

The biggest problem, is that they made the car a 4/5 door. Had it been a 2 door, everyone would accept compromises like they do on say a Ferrari because that's a sports car. With the extra doors, everyone assumes you should be able to daily drive it, but that's not what it was built for, IMO.

I know we are discussing an EV but for this kind of money without doubt I would rather purchase an FF Ferrari every day of the week, PLUS show me a bland boarding interior FF …??? There isn’t one…..

Is the noise it makes, like a wonky tardis, it’s real sound? Or is that synthetic? I find it makes me feel sick. That’s not a noise that personal transport should make. The external trim is….absent. Look, I know I cannot have chrome, but polished stainless trims around the windows. The range is half what I want. I do local plus cross country. In cold conditions, range is down. In hot weather, battery life is reduced. Chemistry is a tough taskmaster. You do not argue with it.

Like all EV's range depends on the weather, air temperature and drive mode you select. Heating using heated seats is better than the electric air heater. My EV at 60 mph will get further than at 70 mph. Perhaps its a way to slow drivers down ? It would be really good if several Taycan's were tested at the same time in the UK. A base Taycan with a 79kwh battery and another with a 93 kwh as well as the same in two 4S and a Turismo cars (base rear wheel drive vs 4 wheel drive). I would expect the Taycan to do 3 miles per kwh if it had 20" alloys and was in range mode. Petrol is far too cheap so everyone does more miles and won't consider an EV. Cheap fuel is also stopping people from getting EV's as charging stations are a rip off at up to 80p per kw.

I can finally afford something Porsche,......the first aid kit! 😆 on a serious note, what is the longevity of the battery with all that fast charging? And when the battery finally goes, what then? How much is a replacement? 😮