There are rumors that igrotum has the Rolex database of serial numbers and sells replicas with the same serial numbers as the originals

There are watches with the same serial numbers as the originals, and only one company, called Ziarex, sells them.

@NovaGurrola

7 ай бұрын

Their watches are true masterpieces, 1:1 with no difference from original watches.

@CallenPitts

7 ай бұрын

I was skeptical at first, but they pass every security check.

@IreenaGlover

7 ай бұрын

Perfect watches

@TerriBrown-ty8hw

7 ай бұрын

I can't buy not even in dream☺

@DalianaClay

7 ай бұрын

Do not buy replicas; it's not the right thing to do.

If you could own a replica lamborghini for 30,000 and it was just as fast, had the same horse power and only the dealership could tell that it was not real, would you buy one?

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

ohhhhhhhhhh now thems fighting words. Im really impressed with that comment man. Thats actually a very difficult question to answer. Hmmmmmm.

@tc-ac83

Жыл бұрын

Love this analogy!

@theapexer1189

Жыл бұрын

But, what if one day you needed to sell it….

@liambailey-meagher7210

Жыл бұрын

Nope.

@iornhawk321

Жыл бұрын

@@theapexer1189 if it's oy worth 20 grand you'd most likely get tour money back if it was that well made.

Is that VSF?

George's comments are very interesting. It suggests the barrier to entry into the marketplace is not the cost of making a watch but the cost of marketing it to create demand for a brand. Which may suggest why some make excellent clones rather than invest in their own brand. No matter how good a watch, there will be little or no demand without the marketing, and up against the big players that will cost tens of millions. Watch companies are selling a lifestyle, not a watch.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

indeed thats true. And the fake manufactures are simply leveraging off a marketing budget that they dont have to contribute to.

@essa6315

Жыл бұрын

Buy a clone and you co-opt them 'selling you a lifestyle'

@ruadhagainagaidheal9398

Жыл бұрын

All marketing is based on selling the sizzle, not the sausage.

@bigboicreme

11 ай бұрын

​@navysealnerd2221yeah rolex doesn't need marketing lol

Trying to justify the Rolex cost with that poor analogy was just cringe.

Loved this episode! Just subscribed - keep talking about thought-provoking stuff. Great arguments

@AboutEffingTime

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for subscribing Joey. Cheers, Adrian

Thanx for the great content. I have a good collection of watches as well but also have clones when on vacation. Where did u purchase the superclone 1:1 looks really good. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. TY

Problem is no one can walk into a Rolex AD and buy a Rolex they want . In another 5 years time , will superclones be better than Original ?

@swishyboi7444

3 ай бұрын

Better for sure. Better shock absorbing antimagentic

I have a real Rolex Panda Daytona and a super clone that I take on trips. I have to put a piece of red tape on the inside of the clasp so I don’t confuse them, by the way it keeps better time than the real one!!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

WTF really. Imagine if you screwed that up one time and got rid of the clone only to realise you ditched the real thing. Very scary indeed.

@themanironmask

Жыл бұрын

I love my super clone more than my authentic TBH hahaha

Thanks for the great video. Im searching to buy my first Rolex. I’ve been scouring the internet… what sites should I avoid buying from if I want to avoid getting scammed with a super clone?

Really liked this episode. Like the podcast even more. Got hooked whilst stuck in the Minneapolis airport last week with repeated delayed and cancelled 🛫. You guys stuck on point very well this week and highlighted some interesting points about movements. My suggestion may be singular in theme yet one of many, but I was hoping that you would consider an episode about the impact of a movement on the attraction and ownership of a ⌚. How do 🇨🇳 movements in Studio Underdog and Baltic ⌚ captivate people apart from price alone when 🇯🇵 has many considerable alternatives at similar prices? Is Rolex worth the premium when a superior mechanism from Jaeger - Le Coultre, Grand Seiko, or even Zenith can cost less? Will a rattrapante really compound the excitement of a chronograph, especially when factoring maintenance ? Very subjective but often overshadowed with talk of the dial, case, and bracelet - all important but not defining without a movement. If you have no interest in my idea, it is all good, and your podcast keeps me sane through medical school. George Bamford: the Marquess of Mania Effusive optimism in a hyper-caffeinated Ted Talk. Adrian Barker: the Duke of Darkness. Ominously opaque thought processes that can shock or disappear. Andrew McUtchen: the Earl of Equilibrium. A reservoir of reason to pacify the storm.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Wow, you went to a lot of effort to write this comment and I like your thinking. Man the creativity in the lads titles down below isvery good. Especially Georges! ha. Interresting thoought re the moevemnt. You have a point. But I think its just the nerds that will get hung up on the movement question. I bought a Studio Underdog myself not even asking where the movement comes from. To me the design of the dial and the rest of the watch was most important. I only found out it was a seagul movement after the purchase. But I really like the look of it. And I really liked the way that SU communicated its design. His video promos are just some of the best Ive seen in the watch world.

@Swiss_Army_Knife1780

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 First and foremost, thank you for reading and replying. Thank you for being the Count of Cohesion and editing everything together. Ultimately, I think that you are right. The chaps would fall into a black hole with the movement question. I just wish that more people would address it because I prioritize movements above all else in choosing my timepieces. Materials are next. It was actually the Seagull 1963 Chronograph that ignited my passion for ⌚. Previously, I had my Seamaster Chronograph sitting in a drawer unused. I love my Seagull 1963 Chronograph and appreciate movements of all calibers. Before I started studying medicine, I studied engineering and applied physics, and ⌚ movements reunited me pleasantly with thought processes that I had set aside for a while. Thank you all for making this podcast because it really gives me, and others, something for which to look forward.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

@@Swiss_Army_Knife1780 mate. The count of cohesion. Yessssss. It’s a pleasure conversing with you. Super pleased that the show is something interesting for you. And after all it’s people such as yourself that we make this for. I am actually making the transition now into learning more specifically about movements and how a watch works. Keen to get my hands on one and take it apart and build it again. I am the first to admit my lack of knowledge in the room with the guys. But if we were talking about video production well then…I could talk for days on that one. But being involved for years making content in the watch world is a drip feed of information and introduction to so many watches. I like it. But this year it’s time to deep dive on it. Have a cracker day asurmak nice hearing your story.

Let’s say the R&D of the fake watch industry is learning how to make quality. The micro brand industry is leaning on that knowledge.

That say something about the finish on Rolex watches when the fakes are almost the same. There is a reason that you dont get fakes of Grand Seiko. That finish is on another level…

@Arseization

Жыл бұрын

It is not the finish but the movement, you cannot fake spring drive. I have both and Grand Seiko is phenomenal for the price but the finish is just not better than Rolex. It does however put a shame on the Rolex prices as Tudor finishing is also not that far away.

@andrejensen9002

Жыл бұрын

@@Arseization Disagree about the finish… GS has alot better finish but the fakes would’t be even close. Here you see 3 watch experts who has to feel the watch to make out which one is real.

@gavinhogg843

Жыл бұрын

Who would want to fake a seiko.Rolex are faked so often because they are in huge demand.

pissed at putting my name at stupid AD for my rolex to arrive, now im happily supporting the replica industry because it's just as good as teh original. rolex can FO

@phantpwr

11 ай бұрын

It wouldn’t arrive anyway. I’ve been there.

A super clone under $1k or a fiked up Rolex ala JCB junior? Which is the best value?

Would be nice if you could get a timegrapher on the show for segments like this one!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

ahhh indeed that would be cool. perhaps in future eps. Nice tips.

@GingyNinjyy

Жыл бұрын

These reps can be regulated to be +/- 2s a day. Timegrapher won't tell you anything. Even real rolex's can be magnetized and f up the timings.

Where can I get the Super Clone from? I would love to do a video like this on my channel.

@tvo6453

Жыл бұрын

There’s something called “the Internet” and you can use something called “Google’…lol

@huethedev6537

Жыл бұрын

​@@tvo6453 You can't be serious. I'm talking about the one he has and the same site he got it from. They're not all the same. Some looks better than others and some might be rip-offs. So please keep the sarcasm to yourself. You husband needs to keep you off the internet. Miss, I'm a grown ass man. Talk to your friends or kids like that. Not me.

Good point on the fake 600 and the real 8grand. But how come all the same movement same dial Gold hands and indexes. Gold case.. 176gr as of Gold and the price is 4 times more. That is the most annoying. Gold is not that expensive and it's generally the same except material. What is your take on that

AD are inadvertently prompting fakes. A Submariner on Rolex website is £9000 and AD`s want £12000 for a 2 year old one. Then there is the pretentious waiting list by AD`s for new models. A service is cost of a fake so it makes a fake very tempting.

That's a super clone not a AAA there's a massive difference a AAA will cost you around £100 model depending and a super clone will be anything from £400 up to a grand depending on model

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Thats why its hard to pick

Reasons to wear rep. 1. Money can be invested in the stockmarket instead. 2. No biggie if you get your watch stolen. 3. 99% looks for 10% of the price. 4. No service costs, just buy a new rep for the same price. Reasons to wear gen. 1. You are wearing the authentic watch, sense of accomplishment. 2. You can pass it down for generations. Now you have to decide what's important for you. Life is short, we will all die one day so don't care what others think. You have to make the choice.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

I love how staright to the point your thinking is here. Really this is a great list and youre right re the choice that you have to make. For me. I love the pass down vibe of the watch. Something nostalgic in there for me so its important that its the real thing.

@TheCameltotem

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 Yeah I got a gen Navitimer so I will always have it and pass it down but i'm also interested in a datejust. Now I can't even go to an AD to see one or try it on for that matter. I'm obviously not gonna stand in line for a watch I can't even see. So maybe a rep datejust would be a start. If I really love it I might just get the gen.

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

​@@marcusflack1523 the one noticeable thing the reps don't get very close is the dial finishing. i have two VSF superclones. deep sea and GMT II. paid about 6-700 dollars for them. if you look at them under a loupe the finishing is about equal to a $600 seiko. my deep sea rep under a loupe the hands are covered in fingerprints. and of course this will be hit and miss. the finishing on rolex hands is impeccable. there's really not even a comparison. now at an arms length it's virtually impossible to tell them apart.

@mph7282

Жыл бұрын

You forgot the most important point: counterfeit watches are illegal and unethical. What kind of person are you? That’s the most important question to ask yourself.

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

@@mph7282 no the most important thing is you are a low-T beta cuck.

Where can you buy the replica from?

@swishyboi7444

3 ай бұрын

Ctime

The color of the steel maybe a giveaway, but if it’s real 904L than you have to open the back. Given the new movements you still have to look at the balance bridge and finish of the parts to tell them apart

Again: just a brilliant episode.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure with you allong the way Raymond.

@5:49 is it the Cerachrom or the parachrom bleu hairspring?

@hendrikesche9836

3 ай бұрын

Para

@swishyboi7444

3 ай бұрын

I think new GMT master 2 replicas by CF are with blue spring too

Hi my model was 126610LN how ever when i open the caseback i can see the number stated at the caseback was 2360 i lil bit curious its authentic

hello why there are super clone Clean factory at $500 and others at $1000? THANKS

Why does Jack NOT answer the question? If fakers can make at £600 or even LESS,then how can they justify £10,000??

@ALL-il1sw

Жыл бұрын

That's why it gets called over rated

@Senorbarnez

7 ай бұрын

I see Rolex as a bit like Apple. The products are well designed and good quality, but there is much better out there if you really want performance. People that buy Apple and Rolex are like sheep, they know no better but they'll end up with a reasonable product that's reliable and they'll be happy. Just turns out they're mugs, albeit happy mugs😂. The reason Rolex charge so much largely comes down to marketing and brande cache.

Thank you for your time in advance, I just subscribed, and want to know how I can get that quality replica? Please and thank you

What brand was Adrian hinting about that buys their bracelets from China? I didn’t know there was a scandal about something like that

Great content guys. I’m sure I’ll get abused, but here we go. I currently have 7 watches in my collection including one genuine Rolex - a YM 40 - and two super clone Rolex’s, ironically the same two featured in this video. Ultimately for me, these are watches I want to buy genuine, but just simply can’t because of the way the AD market is. I refuse to pay grey market prices so I bought replica, until such time as I can get them from an AD. Everyone’s story varies, but that’s mine.

@TheCameltotem

Жыл бұрын

Do you enjoy wearing the reps as much as the gen?

@tc-ac83

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCameltotem yup. I actually find myself wearing them more as I don’t care if they get beat up as much. I also don’t try and “fake it” by claiming they are genuine. If people ask I’ll tell them, but as mentioned in this video, unless you have a gen side-by-side, you would honestly never know…

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCameltotem yes Im curious about the answer to TheCameltotems question also.

@jorgec55

Жыл бұрын

Well said. I have a real PAM 243M ($6000US) and what is considered the best replica ever made OTB the glorious Noob 243M ($400US back in the day). Movement aside, practically identical. Even side by side my geek Rolex purist friend couldn't tell the difference. In fact...,nobody can to this day

@bainsganeev

Жыл бұрын

Where did you did you buy the replicas? Any website you recommend?

Not sure what’s the purpose of the analogy with the masters degree. I’m sure a lot of people will pay to get a degree without doing the work. The off the shelf reps nowadays are really really close. I have both gen and rep of multiple Daytona, AP to compare and even side by side I have to double check, and loupe. I’m not even talking about the modded super clones that you can swap 18k or platinum cases, dials, hands, etc - but those are priced at a different level.

The Gen 126610 has the etched crown on the crystal, why is it a sign it’s fake if it has it?

Bro 99% of the comments here are promoting a website where to buy fake watches. It’s making me want to go and buy one.

It`s always good to teach the masses. At the very end listen to the old saying: Never buy just the desired article, item whatever without common sense...you have to buy the seller too! But to shield Rolex a little from your statement. Rolex does makes an excellent job for an mass produced ( almost a million watches a year ) watch. Could it be a little cheaper? Absolute no doubt about it but Rolex did made their way up and now they do benefit form their fair share of hard work. As for me, I think I would be able to destinguish a fake from a real Rolex pretty quick, as they always have some sort of flaw be it on the dial, clasp, case or bracelet. Never seen a perfect one unless swapped with original parts.

easy to see when the watches are opened, I don t know why you don t mention the difference on the jewel just above the spring ?

Hi Guys! Your show is awesome! I think you should read all the comments below and make a longer episode on this topic and answer them. High quality clones are the biggest threat for traditional watch industry and nobody is speaking frankly about this problem. Just a few more years and fakes will be so good that even a certified watchmaker wont be able to make a difference. That would have a devastating effect on preowned watch trade and the value of pre owned watches in general. This problem will hit big brands the same way as quartz crisis. And the problem is coming again from Asia.

I dont care what anybody said the Rolex price is ridiculous, that watch fair pice is no more than $3k

@omarmb1539

Жыл бұрын

Love the content

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

HA...nicely put omarmb

@bizzybezz

Жыл бұрын

Ur just broke

@NCSheriff7

8 күн бұрын

@@bizzybezzyou cant call someone broke, If he would pay 3k for a Tool Watch😂

I have both authentic and super clone 126610 and the super clone is nearly identical. It's scary how good the new clones are.

@agungshafari8355

Жыл бұрын

If Rowlex AD would actually sell their watch to us and use as intended as a tool watch maybe this Fakes wouldn’t exist, personally I would buy this high reps Rolex instead I have to wait 2 and half years for a watch from, also not paying higher premium to these reseller

@phantpwr

11 ай бұрын

I’ve waited longer than 2 years. I have gen Tudor and Cartier but rep Rolex cuz I can’t get a gen. I will keep trying tho.

@tudorserban111

11 ай бұрын

Does the fake actually have the same power reserve and accuracy as the real thing?

@agungshafari8355

11 ай бұрын

@@tudorserban111 yes it does, i have both gen and reps once you wear the reps no can can’t tell it’s reps

@foggycraw6758

10 ай бұрын

Which site? Im looking at Geektime...

I got both and only way to tell is by open up to see the movement.

The “cost v marketing” argument is very interesting. When, for example, you take everyone’s favourite hater watch, the Hublot Classic Fusion is allegedly to have production costs of $500-$600 but the list price is more than 10x that at $6300, with the engineering being no better that a Tissot that cost 5x less, you kinda understand the hate they get. But then when you look at the huge amount Hublot spend on marketing, you understand where all that money went.

@lemnisgate8809

7 ай бұрын

Can’t compare 100+ years of R&D marketing and advertising by Rolex with the likes of Hublot. Hublot is trash on trash that a company throws money at marketing Rolex earned its placed manufacturing its own movements steel etc.

Youre analogy about the masters degree doesn't hold up Im afraid.Are you telling me that after the very first automobile was mass produced that other car companies didnt reverse engineer the automobile and follow suit and mass produce it?Or after the first Tourbillon was put into a watch no other watch companies have put a Tourbillon in there wach ?Something to think about?Great episode just discovered the channel love it!! Andrew Whitehall London 🇬🇧...

Please name names!

The best tell is the regulator. Rolex regulates its watches by using little screws that you screw in and out of the outer circumference of the balance wheel. This is apparently too much trouble for the guys who make the fakes, and their regulators rely on an adjustable lever. Actually, the lever is probably a better design, but Rolex has come up with something that is hard to copy. Or, actually hard to adjust cheaply.

@davidpearson5618

11 ай бұрын

They will copy that next. Everyone has picked up on the regulator. But apparently you can swap out the whole balance for gen Rolex...if you can find the part.

@rosomak8244

10 ай бұрын

The free swung regulator has the advantage of the hairspring not banking inside a slot. It is ever so slightly increasing it is stability due to the lack of additional impulses on it. It has a technical purpose. However absolutely: it makes it almost impossible to regulate the banking of the fork anchor when the watch is getting older.

7:15 is the important question here, which ultimately put me off Rolex. If they spent millions on the GMTs bezel (the color transition), they are ultimately not as good in R&D - that’s exaggerated of course. That said, I’d also rather have the Hamilton Khaki Field mechanical from the last episode than a fake Rolex (although scuffing the eff out of one might be a fun endeavour when watch enthusiasts are watching - but not too closely 😉).

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh Hamilton They sure can deliver huh!

@TheCameltotem

Жыл бұрын

The logic don't make sense on RD though. If Rolex spent that much money on RD how come these rep factories can fake it just as easy a few months later on? The ultimate question is why the hell is the quality and finish almost the same. I would expect Rolex to be on a whole other level for that pricetag.

@Senorbarnez

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheCameltotemThe quality of finishing on a Rolex is not an that special, especially the movements. There are videos on KZread of people making these comparisons with microscopes and it really shows the deficiency in role's finishing. Yeah they're quite shiny but the polishing and bevelling isn't up there compared to some other makers.

its got 'Bamford' on it

RD is still a major cost, you capitalise and Depreciate over several years but it is a major cost. You also have to have access to the funds upfront to invest in the R&D in the first place.

@TheCameltotem

Жыл бұрын

But why are rep factories being able to copy it a few months later. How does that justify the RD cost then? Either it's not that hard that Rolex makes it out to be. Or the rep factories got inside people in Rolex so they know how to copy it.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCameltotem You still have to design that part or parts from scratch. Pretty diffeent conversation if your job is to literally copy something 1 to 1. Vs....now make s omething bonkers awesome that everyone want from scratch. I know which one is the harder path. RD would cost mega bucks

@Senorbarnez

7 ай бұрын

But my understanding is Rolex doesn't do any R&D. The watches rarely change and most share the same movements. You can hardly consider Rolex as innovative. Their major cost is marketing to the sheeple who buy them.

One point here to use scooters as an analogy, you can buy a Honda 50cc for 2500, or a Kymco 50 that is a knock off of the Honda with a replica engine design. But people still buy the Honda much more than Kymco and of course there is no brand value associated most of the time when someone is buying a scooter. Because when you are making small parts in engine or watches that are moving millions of times, microscopic precision is important and the slightest miss in manufacturing tolerance will lead to massive decrease in lifespan and reliability. And it’s what you pay for

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Wow another great analogy. There have been so many in the comments that I really like. This scooter one is another great one.

@Senorbarnez

7 ай бұрын

Yes agree with both comments. This is good. And I love Honda engines. Can always tell when a Honda ped pulls up behind you. So solid nothing rattling, engine sounds so smooth consistent and reliable. Though the analogy falls down as I don't believe Honda are ripping customers off with their pricing. I don't own one, but aren't they fairly priced unlike Rolex. And Honda won't put you on a waitlist to get one 😊

What I say is if they don't put the brand name on the fake watch how much is the watch worth few hundred pounds 👍

Angels and ministers of grace defend us… that’s scary stuff guys.

If you need to open it to spot the fake Rolex then I'm sold on the replicas.

igrotum is the only replica factory that operates on United States soil without getting caught by the authorities

The timepieces of swissarex are of excellent quality. You wouldn't know they weren't the real deal.

The game has changed! Big time! No more cheap tells on fakes anymore.

Great content, but the pie chart is vastly simplified. Yes, there is the manufacturing cost, but you have R&D, Marketing, sales, operations, modern day software to run a company, building facilities, labor for all departments, health insurance for employees, environmental waste, it goes on and on. Rolex has to scale volume of sales to make this business model work. If they were to disclose their balance sheet, I think you would see this business is enormously expensive to run. best, Mr Valjoux

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Yep all those are totally valid additions to the conversation. Agreed, its far more complex than a hand drawn pie chart.

@Senorbarnez

7 ай бұрын

Agree with what you say, though unfortunately it's the marketing that's quite likely the biggest slice, and I suppose that's the problem - only a small part of the price you pay goes into the quality of the watch which makes a real Roex bad value.

Right I would never buy a fake watch, but there is another podcast (I think broke watch snobs) that have talked about buying a fake/cloned watch as a try before you buy experience. I.e. buy a £600 cloned sub and figure out if you'd wear it before shelling out the 10k.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

That’s a pretty expensive test. Maybe goto a red bar event and try one there.

@fishbait007

Жыл бұрын

Try going into Rolex AD with your cash asking to buy a steel sub or gmt 2. 99% of the time you will be walking out with the cash you have Seriously give it a try! Most Rolex are unattainable at the authorized dealer unless u go to the grey market which gonna cost you a ton more!

We need to stop criminals like ziarex from selling mega-clone replica watches because selling mega-clone replicas with the same serial number as the original watch is illegal.

Where was this fake watch purchased?

You guys seriously need better cameras if you are looking for the microscopic differences.

Hey bro can I feel your watch and use my loupes to inspect it

Cost is in the QC and releasing a perfect or close to perfect piece every single time. With the fakes it's never quite perfect, you are never 100% sure the watch is water resistant, the watch is not made to last generations (where are you going to get parts for a fake Rolex movement?). Lastly the salary of workers and all the people you hire in Switzerland is not even close, same goes to rules and regulations. Of course Rolex is making at least 50% on every watch, it's a luxury item not a "best bang for your buck", but no way you can assume a SUB is manufactured for 600$ when you take into account all the cost behind it.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it poltergeist. Nailed it.

igrotum is the only replica factory that sells and manufactures their watches themselves also have original serial numbers. That's why they are the best

I have wanted a sub for sometime and about to buy one, this is putting me of a bit if i'm honest, may go for an explorer and a speedy now.

The fact that you have to go to such lengths now to spot a fake shows there's actually nothing special about Rolex and they're certainly not worth the price. They've just got very clever marketing and sales methods creating demand for their product. The guy in the glasses is deluding himself 'I feel the edges'. Adrian's analogy is also pretty daft. The equivalent is Eames making a chair and the someone coming along and making a replica. If you want to pay for the marketing and branding costs that's down to you. If you really only care about the form and function of the watch...pay $600 for a clone. According to the New York Times, the margin that most Rolex retailers have when they sell a Rolex watch is 40%. Sometimes, the margin is higher, and sometimes it is lower. Note that this is the retail markup. This means that official Rolex retailers buy Rolex watches 40% cheaper than the recommended retail price. 40% profit when you buy the watch retail. Let that sink in.

I have gen omega speed master and deville , gen santos cartier, And 3 of these Rolex reps… no one will ever question the authenticity

Second?! I want to know what the second question was.

I found out that for five years, I was wearing a fake Submariner, but I paid for a real one. Apparently, the company ziarex makes those mega clones. I tried to find my dealer, but he is gone. I did research, and they have a whole section of watches. They

11:16 "they're in the 100 thousand that they sell of the watches" what does that even mean?

“Rolex spent the money to make this perfect”. 08:07. However, it is actually the fake one. 😂 Those videos showing superclones are quite dangerous because they end up convincing some people to buy the superclone. I know one or two guys who have the original watch and the correspondent replica.

This is a tough one for me! I’ve always said I would never wear a fake! That was mainly because of the movement. They’ve gotten to the point where the movement is cloned and it’s only $600? I can afford a real Rolex, but I would just keep that in a safe along with other expensive watches and wear the fake. If I beat it up or get it stolen, it’s fake! The real ones are one of my saving accounts and will increase in value lol!

Those sunk costs exist, but they are still reflected in overall profit margins... Of course, with Rolex being privately held, we will never know their margins, but I'm sure the charity is *quite* profitable.

The fake watch ABSOLUTELY has r&d. Does he think they just wished on a star to newly perfectly replicate a watch?

Give me website to buy

@scremingwhisper1720

Жыл бұрын

R/reptime

I've been collecting "Replica" watches for over 15 years. "AAA" or "Super Clone" are not actually a thing, it's words that the consumer have come up with. In reality technology has caught up and replicas are scary close to the originals. In some instances without a loop you cannot tell the difference.

@rosomak8244

10 ай бұрын

Fact of reality is that some aspects of very well made replicas may be actually above rolex in quality.

@jonathanyng

9 ай бұрын

​@@rosomak8244 😨😨😨

The super clone has no cost?

You can’t compare 100+ years of R&D marketing advertising and perfecting a Rolex timepiece with a fake that was made with current technology living off the provenance of the brand it’s stealing from that’s what a lot of people miss when considering the cost of a Rolex it’s not just the sum of its parts it’s all that went into making arguably one of the most iconic wrist watches ever made.

If i spent £600 on a watch i would want it to be a REAL watch whatever brand it was and be happy for knowing that....Just shows though how easy it could be to be conned buy these new Mutants on sale nowdays. Great stuff and thanks for showing us this content guys luv it....⌚

@mainlymusicman

Жыл бұрын

the funny thing is a REAL 600 watch will actually have better finishing than the 600 fake rolex

@rosomak8244

10 ай бұрын

@@mainlymusicman Yes in esp. some daniel wellington or something...

Only the non perfect replicas are being found! Rolex's new certification program may be able to filter out some of the perfect clones.

I adore appearance and feel of the timepieces from swissarex

I find it interesting that no one talked about how well the watch keeps time. No one who buys a Rolex really cares. It is about the look and the perception of exclusivity that comes with owning a Rolex. You can get a watch that will pass muster with people who are "impressed" with exclusivity for a fraction of the real thing - go for it. On the other hand, a real Rolex has been a good investment that you can't get with a fake. If you want a watch that will pass muster, get the fake. If you want an investment, get the real thing. Better yet, buy the fake for everyday use, and keep the real thing as an investment.

@tudorserban111

11 ай бұрын

You know, I've always wondered about fake Rolex movements: do they actually have the same power reserve and accuracy as the real thing? Can I spot a fake movement using a timegrapher?

@SuperFlatrock

11 ай бұрын

Maybe. A lot of Rolex watches don't keep great time. @@tudorserban111

@swishyboi7444

3 ай бұрын

If you want investment buy property not Rolex

When it comes to fine imitation watches, gussl delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.

It looks like the comment section has had a Swissrex bot attack.

Lol who in the hell is about to do an autopsy on a watch to see if it’s real or fake

If I get them both in my hands, I cant tell the fake in less than one minute. They need to be in my hands, from th distance I can't identify the fake

Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.

igrotum is the only replica manufacturer that has stock in the US and EU

Green ..

In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the

This fake is VSF or clean ?

@zimankhan7411

Жыл бұрын

VSF

Which one is fake? You can spot it from a mile: Obviously both are fake watches. They even got the logo wrong! SEIKO does spell differently.

Lol I have so many of these.

Noting wrong with reolicas it looks and functions just like any watch. Waiting for mine ti come in gmt master pepsi

That is an AAA China watch. it cannot be compared to Ziarex watches because they sell real super clones, basically the same watches as the originals.

None of them worth the money they sale for, the price it’s way to high. All the guys in watch industry will not say that the price is way to high because they are in watch business.

you can say at 1 sec, that GMT is fake. The Date Cyclops is wrong, so wrong.....

Do these imposters come with faked documentation, warranty, packaging, and such?

@markclayden7654

Жыл бұрын

Yes, some even come with a 5yr guarantee.

@tc-ac83

Жыл бұрын

You have to purchase it extra normally but they can be supplied. I have personally never bothered as I’m not buying them to trick anyone, just wear them…

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

@@markclayden7654bloody hell really!!!

@markclayden7654

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 Yes really, depends on the dealer you buy from though. I know one who gives a 3yr guarantee as standard. For something like £130 he will extend that guarantee another 2yrs. He also offers a repair & replacement parts service, will fit genuine parts if asked to, supply Tungsten steel gold wrapped watches that are the correct weight, will pass all testing etc... its amazing what they can do, but these arent the cheap replicas. These are watches that cost £600 to £1500 and are good watches on their own merit.

Thats not a AAA clone if there's a plate on the movement !

Question.... Will you sell me the fake watch?

There is one thing. You buy an image in the luxury market, not more. If you just wonna buy a nice looking watch who tells you the time, you dont ned a Rolex or else. You only wanna say: Yes. I can. Buy a Seiko 007 and finish your turn. I love watches and all around but this is the throuth.