Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.

@designated_hitter_EGA

2 ай бұрын

For Christmas sake I'm tired of hearing people whine about these replicated watches. Who would buy a lux watch on the street corner, ebay or a pawn shop? And if you're not buying it from an AD and your purchasing it on the secondary market you'd better get it from a known and reputable dealer and have it authenticated, or don't buy it. Who buys a used BMW without taking the vehicle to a BMW certified-mech and having them check it exhaustively and completely? Stop your crying when you get a so called "great deal" and you did not do your due diligence.

I don’t have anything against folks that BUY clones or “replicas” when they know what they’re buying and don’t try to fool anyone otherwise. Some people just genuinely love that look but can’t justify spending thousands for a time telling bracelet. It’s when people try to SELL fakes as if you’re getting an unbelievable deal on a real watch.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely true. But in my opinion this is the role that Homage watches should play. You can have that exact look and feel on the wrist but that logo should not be telling a lie. This is where you cross the line in my books.

@thetruebatman4632

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 splendid point. I stand behind my Duro collection like it’s my pride and joy; i’m a big guy so a 44mm $50 Sun homage is literally picture perfect and I love them but I love the look of a classic, tough dive watch. I don’t care what logo is between the hands and the twelve. But I definitely think I’d feel gross wearing a dive watch that I liked the looks of if it was pretending to be something it wasn’t. Idk, that doesn’t bother some folks and as long as it’s not a situation of “Yeah so and so has an awesome Submariner… Wait, it’s fake? He said it was real!” (which infuriates me lol), i’m glad they’re happy then.

@gmichaelhall

8 ай бұрын

Completely agree. Unobtainable wants/needs are a rationale for many. I work in pro audio where replicas of existing hardware is now a very common option for engineers when scarcity of an original means having to look at other options. Then there is the matter of the original (particularly vintage) being so knackered that it is good money after bad results to not consider modern well built quality options that attain similar or more often better results. Perhaps this desensitises an entire community of professionals to brand loyalty, which I think is truly absurd all things considered. In this circumstance, I’m referring to equipment needs, not really an option. Opinions will vary on this but the point remains and has become far less contentious in modern times. One of the things I believe applies to luxury items including watches, is that luxury is unnecessary and the indulgence is part of the price tag, it’s not purely quality, it’s absolutely more vanity and egotism. In pursuit of the aesthetic appeal is a devaluing integer in the whole equation, so the replica market responds accordingly. To refer to them as fakes is completely inaccurate and intentionally misleading. I have both on brand and replicas and I have no f*_ks to give about whether the replica is a bother to the aficionado community who regard unobtainable as luxury, that’s not the whole picture imho. I would be happy as a clam in dip to have a super clone minus the on brand logo because for me, I enjoy if not am mesmerised by the form and function of the aesthetic. I don’t wear a watch with any thought of what someone thinks of a watch I’m wearing, it’s 100% about me lol! Such a great episode. I think there is room in the watch world for both on brand and super replicas. I have super clones I got for around 1kAUD that are remarkably well built and I love them for all my own reasons. Watch brands also have a tendency to take themselves way too seriously. More brands really need to consider building multi tiered versions of their products if they are truly that bothered by the replica builders. The replica builders are actually no genuine threat to anyone and in some ways offer buyers are more realistic cost access to quality than on brands, it’s just a fact. Some brand’s really are just taking the piss with their pricing, I get it, they smell money and that’s what they want because creating the allure of luxury is just too easy for the experienced entrepreneur who is probably just as good at separating people from their money as they are at making a product. Again, great episode that could have been even better with perspectives from the super clone / replica world Thanks so much for the video To the AET sound person, please address the harsh sybillance that is borderline excruciating to listen on near field and headphones alike!! Mic placement is the fix but some stronger de essing /plosives control in post would be kindly appreciated ✌️ ❤

If Rolex would fix their supply chain/production issues so people could ACTUALLY buy models at retail price, and not have to look at the grey market where prices are 3x retail prices. If you could actually buy an OP 41mm at $6k in the store (or say 3-5 years ago, entry level Rolexes were sub-$5k) then the fake scenario wouldn’t occur to the same extent. I’ve been on a AD “waiting list” for 12+ months, and I’m not going to spend thousands buying other things I don’t want to get preference on the list.

For Christmas this year, my wife purchased a Pagani Design PD-1662 in root beer because I LURVE the GMT Master-II in the same colorway, but even were I to consider the Roller, I'd never wear it. I wear the PD wherever and whenever I want...it cost $130US. If it fails, it's inexpensive enough that I'll also do the calibre swap-out; it's not like I can reduce its value!

@fontyyy

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with a Pagani "Design" (LOL) watch, I've got a PD 1664 (Panda Daytona) and I do wear it, but (and I have no idea how this works), it just doesn't feel special (probably 'cause it's not special!) like some other watches I've got do. When in reality I know it actually feels just like any other 120-160g steel, oyster bracelet watch. ***edit*** in fact I just did it, went to glace at the time on the Sub I "know" I'm wearing and I'd put the PD 1664 on writing this post then forgot, so it had stopped feeling cheap, cause the Sub wasn't cheap! ***edit***

@jjbgs7298

Жыл бұрын

My GMT "Root drink" came a few days ago. Banger of a watch. Just ordered the Lefty diet sprite, should be arriving in 2 weeks lol

@WestCoastAce27

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. Fakes everyone out. Have the Pagani Explorer II Polar also. Very solid body, bracelets are nothing amazing and will probably be what fails.

@fontyyy

Жыл бұрын

@@WestCoastAce27 the Pagani "Explorer 2" really will "fake everyone out" cause no one expects to see an Explorer homage or fake, you presume it's real. And that Pagani is a 100% clone. You wear a Submariner or a Daytona (real, fake or homage) and someone WILL ask if it's real or fake, it'll get spotted. But an Explorer 2? You'll just presume it's real until you get so close as to see the logo. And that's closer than you think.

@nukadog1969

Жыл бұрын

@@WestCoastAce27 I guess...I don't want to fake anyone out...I like the look and won't afford the Roller...

I enjoy micro brands and collaborations as much as some of my “brand” watches and as result there is not a need for a fake in my collection. You asked the question during the episode that is most important about a watch…”does it make you smile”! Rock you favorite watch, regardless of the logo on it! Thank you guys!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Bloody great proving re the smile side of things. Yes I myself are far more interested in finding a watch that resonates with just me. Not what resonates with a colossal marketing spend.

This episode perfectly describes why I buy Christopher Ward. The margin is 100% transparent and... it is fair. Marketing cost also is zero. You pay a great quality watch and you pay Chr. Ward a fair gain. The whole industry should be like that. That would give fakes no room. Ps: I guessed for the starbucks to be gen for the great cyclops. Shame on me. Lol

@detgoat

Жыл бұрын

As a customer, could you give a brief rating of your opinion

@philipwollenhaupt3295

Жыл бұрын

@@detgoat Could you tell me more exactly what you mean with that. I would be happy to do that for you.

@camarocarl7130

4 ай бұрын

Micro Brands are cheaper because they are Micro Brands.

I owned a fake yachtmaster when I was in management and working in the shop. It eventually through an end link pin and shattered on the ground. I missed that watch so much I bought a real rolex to replace it, and decided to wear something else while at work. We all start somewhere...

@TheCameltotem

Жыл бұрын

Same here, bought rep first ended up with the gen.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

So many stories in the comments with the same ending. Seems the fakes drive many people to the real thing anyways.

Sounds like Longines needs to digitize it’s records in a searchable database. I’m glad I stumbled across this channel. Quickly becoming one of my favorite watch channels.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Actually I believe they have digitised it. Its a free service now if you have a longines they can look it up for you.

@ChrisJones-ki2bx

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes because computers can't be hacked. Can they, well done you have just legitimatized half the fakes

I’m happy that you guys keep things real. You stated if you made a mistake in your past and you acknowledge it. Thank you 🙏 you are great help to the community.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

fanbloodytastic feedback. Glad this is hitting the truth mark for you.

This for me has been by far the most educational episode yet. I absolutely loved learning more about the fake watch market and yet I feel that a lot of us will come away far more vigilant. It's a terrifying ordeal and one which I can only feel sorry for George in his situations. I loved this episode so much and it's a nice change from the more casual episodes. Keep up the great work👊

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh fantastic that it hit the mark for you George. Yeah this was a great ep for us here with so much to dig into. Thanks for watching and commenting. Means a lot to hear how people like you respond to the content we make. 😊

Andrew, spot on, w'ere being bummed by Rolex, the real Rolex is 7k because they spend 100's of millions advertising/marketing, per year, that's what we're paying for. Great debate guy's

@mrgee007

Жыл бұрын

BTW, I don't buy fakes, but I can understand the normal person that does, however the people/celebs that can afford them, meh!

"Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, and fool me three times you're f**ked." - George Bamford 2023 Love it! Great episode chaps.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

That should be on a t shirt.

@AboutEffingTime

Жыл бұрын

Tombstone vibes 🪦

@bamfordwatchdepartment3470

Жыл бұрын

Third time, completely f*cked🤘

@bamfordwatchdepartment3470

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 I think so

@sebastien6483

Жыл бұрын

This was gold.

This was a great episode. Topic was on-point and all of you added perspectives/experience that make one think a bit deeper. On a more boring point, this was perhaps the easiest episode to watch. You maintained a nice casual tone, like a natural conversation, without stepping on each other and going down tangents. In other words, it was pro without looking forced. Keep going but as Teena Marie told Rick James, "Yeah, well, don't be too slick now!"

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha yesssss we may finally be finding our best angles. But def appreciate the feedback Mitch. It does mean a lot for our development. 😊

I too once had a fake Tag Heuer from Bali when I was teenager. Wore it until the battery died (maybe like a year), but then was too embarrassed to get the battery changed! Really great discussion guys, absolutely loving the channel!

Great episode as always guys. I would never buy a fake willingly but those 1:1 clones are scary. Like you say a reputable seller is key.

Love the new season, it's on another level. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your next livestream. Your biggest fan from Iran, Sam ✌🏼

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Bloody awesome IRAN....YOURE THE MANNNNNm SAMMMM. Thanks for watching

@Sam_D

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 That's my pleasure, thank you Marcus for all the great work you've been doing all this time to make this happen. Hands down the best watch podcast/youtube series ever. ✌🏼

@dcole7092

5 ай бұрын

What's the point of owning a luxury watch if you're not going to wear it? Well, where I live, you are subject to lose it at gun point. Therefore, having the original in a safe and a fake on my wrist outside the house makes sense.

Found you guys today and have watched nearly of season 1 and some of season 2. Your content has definitely gotten better and I really enjoyed this episode and the one finding the best diver under 10K, 5k and 1k.

@AboutEffingTime

Жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

I love fake watches. I buy them for the look, I buy fakes I can actually afford and invest the difference. Idgaf about the mechanics, what am i a nerd. Some might say it makes me fake, cool, I rather not waste thousands of dollars on a piece of jewelry.

I liked it guys. Love the idea, loved season one but honestly haven’t enjoyed everything in season 2. But this was just right. Just talking, good topic. No stig etc.👌🏻

Grew up in the jewelry business and have a ton of experience with knock offs. We always lived by two mottos If they’re knocking you off, you’re doing something right. When they’re knocking you off, its time to start working on what comes next.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Now thats a bloody good motto. Seems like its served you well Michael.

I think this may be your best ever pre-recorded episode. There was a tone of sincerity and honest fascination in your consideration of the realm of fake watches. The best points revolved around the idea that some people feel the need to own the fake version of a brand to feel like they then have purchase on the tier which that brand represents. What is doubly tragic is that such self-delusion robs those people of the opportunity of owning a gorgeous watch that is within their grasp, like a Tudor Black Bay 36, the Baltic HMS 002 or the Khaki Field Automatic Murph, be it the 38mm or the 42mm. I see similar motions in the school I work in where the children need the brand, when something that is not a famous brand may offer an even better product. When the world is so governed by the need for the perception of quality over the reality of quality, then something is extremely wrong. A superb episode because the sentiment was so valuable and true.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

You never disappoint me Raymond. Your degree and level of insight always pushes my thinking just that little bit further. Your point about attainable now watches is so on point. I think for many people buying fakes they actually have little to no idea of whats on offer out there in the watch world. They gravitate automatically to Rolex as its a household brand name in the watch game and they stop there. Thinking that somehow they have made a wise decision. hmmmm. But yeah there is so much quality on offer out there that is affordable, obtainable and very keepable (if keepable is a word)

@raymond-thecrumpledlecturer

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 Thank you Marcus. I just have never had any illusions about being able to afford something like a Rolex. I've set myself tiers of what I would like to own, mainly because I know what I can afford and what would carry me too far. You know, I hope he doesn't mind me saying so, but George really shone on this one. Everyone was on point, and extremely honest, but George had several fascinating stories to tell; they were amazing. I think it may have been Andrew who pointed out last week that the aim of a successful podcast is the feeling of being in the room and being involved in the conversation. I think that is absolutely true, and this week's episode nailed that sentiment. Also, keepable is a word, which is a shame because I thought you'd nailed a perfectly acceptable neologism.

I only just found this channel a week ago and have been addicted. Amazing content guys.

What an episode! I watched and rewatched multiple times. Good stuff 🧐

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Glad to see there was so much in there for you. We def aim to value add to peoples information streams.

Big shout-out to all London cab drivers! You are really having a tough time... I saw a lot of those CCTV videos on the Fake Taxi channel!!!😳

Loved this episode, really entertaining😂 Was dissapointed to see another watch youtuber being indifferent and being OK with wearing fakes in a Q&A episode.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Great that it hit the spot with you deskdiver. Nice to have you along for the ride.

gotta love the shoutout to Jody - Just One More Watch, one of the best budget friendly watch channel!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Could not agree with you more Gary. There is a place for everyone at this watch table.

Just binged all of these over the last 2 days or so. Absolutely love it! Would love to hear your thoughts on watch modding, like seikos for example

“GP- it’s mouthwash for the eyes”, good lord where did that come from! Thanks for sharing bits of your collection!

Loved the episode!! Some unexpected directions that kept the conversation interesting!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

We love the unexpected. Great to have you along for the ride Logan. 🎉🎉🎉

Genuinely interesting chat guys, thoroughly enjoyed it -it was refreshing to hear your honesty too about buying fakes in the past. My experience; I had a friend who travelled to China for work, and he asked if I wanted him to bring me back a watch - at the time I didn't own anything decent really, but aspired to. I asked him for a black ceramic Submariner... original I know. A few weeks later he returned and handed me the watch, for which I'd given him £60GBP for. And while it was a pretty "good" fake, I was filled with disappointment and regret. I wanted to capture that feeling of owning the watch I'd lusted after for so long, and when I had what I thought would do that for a fraction of the cost, it just did not give me that feeling - not out of snobbery, it just didn't feel right, it didn't give me that feeling of accomplishment, that feeling of owning something which will be around for longer than I will and can hand down to my children. I would never have lied to anyone if they asked if it was real or fake, and I wouldn't have been able to be comfortable with having to explain to someone why I'm wearing a fake - I wouldn't have a decent enough answer. That same day, I handed to the watch to my much younger brother who was delighted, and then a few weeks later, I stumped up the cash and bought a genuine Submariner for a good price at the time. This gave me all the feelings I'd wanted and sent me on a totally different journey with my watches from then on. It taught me, that no matter what watch it is, I couldn't bare to wear it if it was a fake. There's plenty of people out there who will tell you you're an idiot for spending that sort of money on a real one, and, even some, who if you gave them a real one, they would say "no thank's, I'd rather not be a chump who just spent 10 grand on a stupid watch, this replica will do". Good for them, but that's not me I'm afraid! Great show guys!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Great level of honestly there. And I think your sentiments will resonate with so many others out there in the watch game. Interesting how the fake seemed to motivate the actual purchase of the legit model hey. There is a comment about that tells a similar story from @TheCameltotem. Check it out.

Buzzing with Adrian’s mondaine, my first ever watch was a mondaine EVO2 for my 18th birthday! Recently picked up a 1960s vintage mondaine with a linen dial! Such elegant simplicity for a great price point

That was nice of you to shoutout Jody. Love his videos as somebody who can't afford Rolex, Omega, Vacheron, Zenith, etc.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

I watch his stuff plenty myself. I think hes great!

@Dirtywesterner

Жыл бұрын

I love Jody’s videos but I didn’t know he was on this

Your best episode yet - and that says a lot!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh thanks Flemming. Great to have you on board🎉🎉🎉

Your shows are getting better and better. Love it .

@bamfordwatchdepartment3470

Жыл бұрын

🤘

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Great that it’s hitting the mark for you Mark. Mark my words we will aim to realest this process for you again and again.

Thanks guys, another rocking episode. Take care. Cheers

Hell yes, another episode!!! Question, when are Bark & Jack straps back? Ivw got a new hamilton khaki auto that is begging for one

The fact that you guys also have troubles identifying fakes these days reaaaaly scares me. Thanks for the cool, informative and entertaining content.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Yeah scares me too. That’s why a trusted dealer is vital. More now than ever.

Fascinating opinions. Just incredible points of views. Great job lads

I agree with those comments saying season 2 is even better than season 1 (with the exception of Lucien episode, that one was actually the worst of all for me, but you compensated with a great therapy session last week). I have one kind request/suggestion: could you make a playlist of only the BYOI parts? Oh, and one more question, although I'm sure it was asked before, I just haven't seen it in the comments: Where can I get such cool clocks as GB has in the room where you're shooting? Thank you guys for what you do, AET is by far my most favorite content on the internet! Greetings from the Czech Republic 🙂

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Good suggestion re the BYOI. I think that’s something we will do. As many others really resonate with this section. It’s like a surprise in the box. You don’t know what’s gonna pop out but when it does it’s super refreshing.

Cracking episode! Opening up the watches was amazing. Great discussion!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

I loved that part also. Incredible that there is so much freedom and ability I the room to really explore what’s really going on huh. Thanks for the comment DaffyDucktoo

I’ve been listening to your podcast. I just realized you had a you tube channel. Bravo guys. Love this show!!!!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Fab to have you on board with us in the land of visuals.

That hour + just flew by. Great episode guys.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Zing zing zing🎉🎉🎉

Great show as always! Cheers!

Excellent episode gents. As 'hosts' it feels like you're all becoming more comfortable and conversational in podcasting, less scripted and it comes across great. Feels like the show is really maturing. Good stuff guys, keep it up!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh thanks Rinky. Means a lot. And great that you noticed the development. We were certainly aiming for that result. Can’t wait to see where this all leads.

@WestCoastAce27

Жыл бұрын

That’s how I describe it to friends: 3 watch insiders talking about watches, let us listen in.

Loved the episode, thanks for the great content!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

An absolute pleasure to have you on board Justusbuscham.

What a fantastic episode. The best watch so far. Keep up the good work.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Bloody great to have you Greg. Thanks for stopping by. 😊

That was a good episode, guys. Really enjoyed it. Well done!!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the love PJM16

I just stumbled upon your channel. What a great video. I really like how you are discussing the topic from different angles. Thank you for making this video. 👌😁

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

An absolute pleasure to have you on board Dr goloberanek

@dr.goloberanek7565

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 I am just bunch watching all your episodes. I really like the kids watches from Blok you showed. A really great passion project 👌 please keep in doing this format. You guys have amazing chemistry 😁👌

Stoked for this!

Best episode so far. Good job

I bought a fake Bell and Ross in Bangkok when I was 17 years old. I am not advocating that anyone should buy fakes but it was through that I learnt about other watch brands. Ironic as this may sound, it was the AAA and double AA replica markets that exposed me to the world of watches!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

This is a repeating story in the comments. So many people where red this hobby through the world of fakes and now they have amazing collections of the real deal.

That zenith is a thing of beauty!

Great episode guys, keep it up!

Nice video again. Just off topic, when is website up and running again? I’m shopping for a nato for my Seiko Prospex in blue 20mm but can’t get on there to see if you have one

This was a great episode. Love the videos guys.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for stopping by MrGMT

Absolutely love this podcast 😄 keep up the good work!! By the way has the Blok watch give-away ended yet - if not how can one enter?

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh thanks a lot. The winner was announced on the therapy session on Wednesday. Glad your enjoying the show. There will def be more giveaways in the future. So stay tuned.

I love it when a billionaire’s kid shames people for buying a replica. If you’ve always loved a Rolex and can’t afford the real thing, go for it. This idea that you’re some kind of imposter speaks volumes about entitlement and privilege. Personally if I could buy a perfect 1:1 Zeitwerk I would do it in a heartbeat. My heart would leap with joy with every time change and I would love it for exactly what it was, a beautiful recreation of mechanical perfection.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Yeah….but it’s still not the real thing.

Needing a fake Rolex because you get too drunk and keep falling and messing up your Rolex is THE definition of Rolex culture

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahaah nailed it. Nailed it. It’s just so true.

Hey guys love the show. quick question where do you get your watch wall clocks?

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

most are direct from the brands themselves so they cannot be purchased. Others only George knows I think.

Cracking episode lads. Must say nice to see an episode with the back to basics format. Fakes scare the life out of me and you guys just proved why we should all be concerned. (In my view and in answer to Andrew’s question, it’s never ok…even if it boosts the ego.) Just bought a vintage Kermit from a dealer and am petrified. Can’t understand why brands like Rolex don’t do more to help their customers in this space.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you NVA. When you start climbing the ladder in the watch game it gets increasingly unstable in that regard. The super clones are sooooo convincing. glad the ep held some good information for you.

@fontyyy

Жыл бұрын

They don't "do more" for the same reason they don't make any effort to stop (the right) people flipping watches from AD to grey importer (and in many cases doubling the price) and for the same reason the AD's won't sell to just anyone. Because they want the market demand to be that high, it just adds to the prestige. No one in the world would suggest that "fake diamonds" shouldn't exist, 99% of the clear white, flat sided stones in jewellery aren't real diamonds. A diamond carries that much prestige if you see what appears to be one you presume it's a "fake". From the plastic in the ones in your granddaughters play jewellery, to the ones grown in a lab in Pandora (god I hate that cheap, monkey metal/plastic stone junk, but my daughters love it), they must outnumber real diamonds 10,000 to 1. It does not diminish the value of a real diamond one little bit. If anything it enhances it. Same with a Rolex. Those trying to pass superclones off as real in social situations, fine, it hurts no one if they get away with it, only hurts them it they don't! Those trying to sell them as genuine, not fine. If you're buying one outside of an insured situation, take the back off, hack the movement, no adjusters on the balance wheel? Walk away. Seller won't let you? Walk away.

@nva854

Жыл бұрын

@@fontyyy appreciate the reply and agree with your points. One day I will learn how to hack a movement without worrying risk of destroying a watch 😏… Maybe casting doubt is part of their plan to drive the layman to the massively over priced new Rolex Certfieds sold by their ADs ie if you want certainty you have to come to me and pay well above market. Personally I much prefer Omega and Longines approach ie we care about our customers.

@mrgee007

Жыл бұрын

Rolex don't care, as GB said, it's not taking away sales from them, only from the indy's/micro brands

@mrgee007

Жыл бұрын

Go get it checked out, I hope you have and OG Kermit BTW

This was a absolutely great video, you guys are the best

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ohhhh thanks Chris. Great to have u along for the ride.

Hi, guys been wondering for some time, where do you get the wall clocks on your wall?

THANK U GUYS. Loved it as Always. Recently i went into a Cobbler/Key Cutters Shop...He had FAKE Casio F91Ws for Sale.When i asked he told me they were FAKE..! GO FIGURE..!😎🙏🙏🙏

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Hahahah not even hiding it huh

I'm terrified of buying a fake watch. It's holding me back from buying anything used and not from a boutique.

@agnelo000

6 ай бұрын

buy second hand from trusted sellers

First: You are really the best Watchcast 👍 I like the starbucks a lot. The dealer gives me only a laugh. So I buy a Steinhart hommage. Now a question myself, get I more fun from the original? For the saved money, I can buy a nice Tag 😉 Even two !

Congrats to another wonderful Show!

Great episode very interesting information. My favourite episode to date.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

yessssss glad it hit the mark for you Dean.

best episode so far, also in terms of editing. shout out to the mvps in the background!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Christian. Nice to have you on board

I’m slightly ashamed to admit I’ve bought a fake watch before (with honest intentions). I bought a fake BB58 to wear for a few weeks to see if I liked the feel of it even after the ‘honeymoon phase’. I didn’t want to drop £3k on the real thing and regret it in a months time. Ended up buying the real deal of course… as for the fake, it’s sat in drawer with a kaput movement (of course) 😂

@gabrieltjokroamidjojo7980

Жыл бұрын

No shame in buying a fake watch. Buy fake watches!!!

The Thomas Crowne Affair was in my head at one point of this discussion .....

Been waiting for this all day! Good Evening from Bangkok Thailand!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

And a happy new year to you over there. Man I love Thailand. That’s my happy place.

@watchdulum

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 thanks and same to you! Yes its a beautiful place. Been here all my life and no complaints!

Adrian, I actually first came across your channel because of the fake Rolex shooting. The only way to deal with them - apart from taking a bulldozer to them 😊

My issue with fakes is when a person or dealer knowingly sells a fake for the same price as the real watch. I feel like that's where most of these celebrities get duped. A lot of them really aren't watch people like that and would never be able to tell the difference between real and fake so they get played

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Until they take their watch to get serviced. Then the truth hurts. Ouch.

Excellent job...again. I read that you guys are the number one watch channel in Lake Stevens, WA USA.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Well we’ll we’ll. This podcast just gets bigger and bigger. Love it. Thanks for the comment Rich. More coming your way.

Thanks for asking the obvious question on why the fake Tag was not credible from a Bmford standpoint. I was wanting to know the same thing

The best use of a fake that I have seen is one of my friends has a couple really nice rolex watches and he keeps them safe, but wears the fakes out. So that he does not damage the originals. He only has the fakes as copy’s of the originals.

@Jake-bt3fc

11 ай бұрын

Buying a watch you’re afraid to wear means you can’t actually afford the watch and you shouldn’t have bought it.

I love that snoopy director character! i need have it home 😃 .... by the way, great episode as always!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh nice spotting in the background of that shot. You indeed have a keen eye Martin

This episode is brilliant on so many levels. The fake speaks to the audience, the real watch speaks to the wearer. Agree with others you are taking this series to another level. 😁

@bamfordwatchdepartment3470

Жыл бұрын

🤘

I never considered myself a watch collector until last year when I realized I had 2 basic casio watches, 3 g-shocks, a citizen Quartz, and a timex. Now shows like this have me buying my first automatic movement, I now own a wind up pocket watch. Starting to plan my entry into entry level luxury. An upgrade from Pauper Luxury. Love from Mario. Windsor, ON, Canada 🇨🇦

Was there a way to tell if the searches were to buy fake watches or collectors searching for fakes to contrast with theirs? I only collect vintage pieces, so I’m always studying the tells and red flags to look for. I search for examples of fakes and redials to learn.

These giant watches on the wall are very nice. Yes get one by Shinola. Even though it’s not all made in the US, they have created jobs in Detroit. They started with quartz movements by Ronda (assembled in Detroit though) and now moved more and more into the mechanical space. The Runwell is their best design in my opinion, evoking old machine gauge dials.

This show is mouthwash for my brain, keep up the great work gents.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

We will keep the hygiene flowing thick and fast. Minty fresh!

Nice episode guys 👏

I loved this episode, I am glad I have found you

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Ahhh awesome that its hitting the mark for you Maria. More to come.

Best video podcast about watches on the Internet!!!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Yessss thanks so much!

Another great episode. Interesting discussion

Thought Adrian thoughts on the homage worth to the real watch with the degree analogy was spot on.

@fontyyy

Жыл бұрын

it's flawed though. It takes ZERO skill to copy a degree paper. If it was hand written and you'd copied even nuance of his hand writing maybe you'd have a point. So, it does take some skill to turn out a 1 to 1 3235 movement that can keep time to Rolex level of accuracy. The quartz watches that are $20 in the fake market in China maybe, the ones that are $600 and can take Rolex parts many times 1 - 1 direct replacement...not so much I don't think.

Great discussion guys. Early in my watch collecting journey I bought several fake luxury watches. At that time I fell for the hype surrounding luxury Swiss watches and there was no way I could afford the real thing. I was buying some of the best replicas available at the time and my first purchase was a Tag Heuer Link chronograph. I couldn’t believe the quality and feel of that particular watch which only encouraged me to buy more replicas. With each purchase however I discovered that the watches only had an illusion of luxury. Every subsequent watch had quality issues and many of them serious enough to prevent any enjoyment of the watch. I eventually had to admit to myself that I had wasted my money. I then discovered vintage watches and also the fact that I could get loads of enjoyment from watches at the more affordable end of the spectrum. I have been seriously collecting for over 15 years now. Along the way I have also managed to acquire a couple of expensive Omegas and I don’t really buy much these days as I’m very happy with my collection now.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

My friend what a great end to your story. I love your honesty with how the purchases made you feel and interresting that the more you get into thiosgame the more the little things become deal breakers. But def so good that you have found the right way to play the game now. All the best Craig.

@craiglinke8206

Жыл бұрын

When you start collecting the natural desire is to want to build your collection quickly and you usually have your sights set on watches you cannot really afford. I think this is when the temptation of fake watches is very strong. If you can get past this temptation I have discovered it’s not just owning and wearing different types of watches that I enjoy but also the hunt to find the right one. This is especially true for vintage watches. My two favourite brands are Seiko and Omega which both represent excellent value for money.

@StreetPreacherr

Жыл бұрын

I guess I don't travel in the 'right circles'. However I've noticed that most 'normal' people don't even seem to recognize if I'm wearing a 'luxury watch'. And then any 'watch people' who would actually care will probably realize it's a fake... So there doesn't seem to be ANY upside? Also, spending $500+ on a 'decent' replica just seems silly. If you're going to spend that much cash then there are many respectable 'real' watch brands to choose from...

Sweet episode. Ive been ‘into’ watches for about a year. Ive had watches all my life though and I think before that point, if someone showed me a Rolex, fake or not, I would have assumed it was legit. Its only being in the ‘hobby’ more thats made me aware of fakes at all price points. Id say the average consumer who wants a *insert luxury watch name* will go for a fake if its cheap enough, to ‘flex’. Its the same as people who have a poverty spec Merc/BM just to say they have the badge!

Can we make "Gerald Genta" be the new version of drink every time George says "Tag Heuer"?

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Bloody hell you’re right. Gents gets a mention almost every ep. What an incredible legacy he left hey.

Great episode, really enjoying your show.

@AboutEffingTime

Жыл бұрын

Enjoying you enjoying it

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

@@AboutEffingTime and im enjoying reading this comment of enjoying your comment Matthew.

Hilarious Crocs higher than Nike and Adidas regarding fake list🤦‍♂️Excellent content guys👍👍👍

I searched for fake Rolex watches before I bought a GMT Master II because I wanted to make sure I know what mistakes they make so I can be sure mine is real. Many people would be doing this and it may explain why the number of searches are so high. I did the same before I bought my Omega Seamaster.

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Wow. So you bought a fake to educate yourself? Was it a super clone or something super cheap?

@M_MTsc

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 no I did not. But by searching I learned that fake omegas don't have a black balance wheel etc. So when I finally bought a watch I was sure it was real. Fakes are so good these days that there is always an element of doubt even when buying from a reputable dealer. It's a shame that this is the state of affairs

I contend that a majority of watches labeled “Swiss Made” in the under $1,500usd range have mostly made in China components. This is especially true for micro brands.

Great episode, thank you! So I have purchased used watches on eBay. They state Authenticity Guaranteed and state that the watches are sent for independent Authentication. How confident should one be with this Authentication? Thank you!

Really enjoyed this episode. Awesome. ❤

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Da bloody tasting Martin. Glad it’s hitting the spot for you. Happy New Year.

@martinboulden4388

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 Yes this was watch banter at its best.

Great episode again guys. The amount of fakes out there has started to turn me away from wearing Rolex and just going with something like a Hamilton. Ps Adrian’s accent was half decent 😂

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

Def move to the micro brand world if you can. There’s so much fantastic value out there.

@MA89.

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusflack1523 for sure, I have one or two pieces. Can wear without worrying / no one else having it.

I’m 25 minutes into the show and truly enjoying the discussion; however, I am completely drooling over the curves, lines, and reflections of that Hamilton Ventura wall clock. I never appreciated the watch before but will be looking into it now. Cheers!

@marcusflack1523

Жыл бұрын

And you could also crack put your old Elvis records to go with that Hamilton. Bloody nice huh.

Love the content guys, I'm recent fan. Find funny that you guys say f**k so much that some times the editor doesn't catch it 😂

I'm new to watches but have had other interests where the price of the equipment carried status within that group. I saw people with expensive guns who couldn't shoot, expensive bikes who couldn't ride, expensive cars that couldn't drive and I'm sure there are people with expensive watches but no money. In the 6-7 months since I bought my first watch 30+ more followed, mostly used stuff on eBay well below the MSRP. I'd never really sacrifice to have a watch so realistically the absolute top of my price range would be $5K, which works out pretty good for me as I like the offerings from Omega the most and can be found in the pre-owned market well within my price range. Through the 30+ watches I've bought, I learned a lot about what I like and what I don't. I've thought about buying a fake Omega but the good ones cost $450-$600 which is a 1/4 of what a real one can be bought for. That same money would buy a nice used Tissot Seastar or Hamilton Khaki Scuba or a new Islander from Long Island Watches. I plan to sale about 2 dozen of the watches I have and spending that towards one of the Omegas I want and I'm sure at least 2 more of the Islander styles will end up in my watch case.