The entire Tanglewood performance is a gem.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

what a show!

Listen, Poem 58, South California Purples, Beginnings, Questions 67 & 68, Colour My World, Make Me Smile...anything prior to 1978, before Terry sadly passed away. One of the most underrated bands ever. Great reaction guys.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

If you had to pick one, which would it be?

@brianblackwell7341

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen I'd go with Poem 58...Danny on drums and Peter Cetera on bass really show out. Its like a jam session. It's one of my go to songs. Then I'd do Listen, South California Purples, and Beginnings (from Tanglewood)...its the next song in the set after 25 or 6 to 4.

@oldmanghost219

2 жыл бұрын

("@@TheThamesmen If you had to pick one, which would it be?") Actually It would be 2 as "Colour My World" and "Make Me Smile" are cut outs from the same song "Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon" 13 minute studio version but I would go with the 14 minute Tanglewood version. It got cut up from day one. AM radio was standard in cars in 1970 and therefor was king but they had 3 minute time limit. My #2 is"'Questions 67 & 68" (STUDIO VERSION on this one). Terry's guitar and Peter's vocals really got my attention along with the style/rhythm change. And made me a fan from the get go.

Just three words ----- MAKE ME SMILE

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

GOOD

There's a documentary here on YT done by his daughter, titled Chicago: The Terry Kath Experience that tells the great story with interviews of the band, other musicians, family, etc. It's wonderfully done and worth a watch.

I only know Chicago previously from If You Leave Me Now - then I saw this and my jaw hit the floor. Unbelievable guitar playing. Wowser.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

was a revelation to us too!

@oldmanghost219

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. They started out with a hard rock edge then transitioned to the power ballads. "Introduction" written by Terry (1st song on the 1st album) "takes you through the changes" as Terry puts it.

I'm a Man. Old Days Feeling Stronger Everyday. Beginnings Make Me Smile

The Tanglewood Festival started in 1934 when the New York Philharmonic were asked to perform for the locals. The Boston Philharmonic has been the resident “band” since 1936. The festival covers all music from folk to classical to jazz and rock. Many copy cats now exist in places like Tanglewood, Victoria, Australia. lol

Early Chicago with Terry Kath was fire. Try Beginnings and I'm a Man from the same concert. Also, Introduction, Make Me Smile, Questions 67 and 68, Dialogue Parts 1 and 2,

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

I'll check it out!

Catching up on some of your older vids G & A. One of the first albums I ever received was Chicago's Greatest Hits in 1977. As a seventh grader, I was immediately hooked. My oldest sister bought it for my for my b-day. Still remember lying on the bedroom floor listening to it over and over and over. Also vividly remember my dad telling me to turn it down over and over and over. Terry was on fire in this performance. Absolutely brilliant performance. Take care!

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Very cool!

My absolute favorite!!!

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for being here thanks for the support

@stefaniebrauer128

2 жыл бұрын

Your very welcome.

This is great rock. Chicago prior to 1978 was a power house , really underrated Terry Kath... exceptional in everyway

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more!

If you enjoyed that, go to their debut album, "Chicago Transit Authority", and check out "Poem 58". The opening section features an AMAZING Terry Kath's blues/funk guitar section for the first 4 minutes. On the same album Terry's vocals shine on the opening track "Introduction". "Beginnings" is another song where Terry's blistering guitar work shines backing up Robert Lamm's vocals. Chicago VII features Terry's voice on lead vocals and a smoother guitar track on one of my favorites, "Byblos". Terry could master hard rock, blues and ballads (like "Byblos").

That's some guitarist right there!

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Sure was!

Terry Kath was a diamond, set in 18 carat gold.

For trombone solo. "Beginnings" For bass and percussion "I'm A Man" For extended lead guitar "Poem 58" Flute solo "Happy 'Cause I'm Going Home" or "Color My World" Guest trumpet solo "Street Player" Great horn arrangements "Questions 67 & 68" or "Make Me Smile/More Than Ever". Great political song "Dialog pt. 1&2" or "It Better End Soon" I'll have plenty more to suggest from Chicago if you should ask.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

If you pick our next Chicago track...... which one would it be?

@karensaldanha4760

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen I would pick "I'm a Man" off of Chicago Transit Authority Album.

@karensaldanha4760

3 жыл бұрын

The drumming and whole band participating in percussion along with a fat bass line is so frenetic.

@karensaldanha4760

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's a remake of Steve Winwood/Spencer Davis Group's song, Chicago's only non original song on their albums until their jazz cover album "Night and Day" in 1995 and their first Christmas album in 2003.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@karensaldanha4760 Tempted t go and listen now but will wait until the next vid! Thanks

Tanglewood is in Western Massachusetts. Chicago was a hard-charging rock band (with horns) when they first debuted. After Terry Kath's death, their work shifted to mostly love ballads, as their new producer, David Foster, started featuring Peter Cetera more in the work. Peter eventually left the band after trying to work out a deal where he could have time to work on his solo career while remaining in the band.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John! Be well

Back in the day ( 1968 - 1972) we were told they were all jazz musicians who intended to fuse jazz into rock...... another reason hard core rock fans shunned them. Apparently Terry Kath was the driving force and leader ( of sorts ) and a serious jazz guitarist.

Love your channel name! Spinal Tap would approve

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

😉😂glad you noticed!

Try the song (introduction) amazing vocals and instruments.

One of? Any Chicago BEFORE Terry Kath died is highly recommended. Most songs with Kath or piano player Robert Lamm singing are their best tracks. After his death in January of 1978 it killed the heartbeat of this band. They quickly allowed Peter Cetera the singer bass player seen here to lead the band down the insipid ballad band track most people associate with the 80s and 90s.

Early Chicago really rocked and had a rawer sound, and maybe more soul. After Kath's death the band continued, but mellowed out.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

He definitely seem to have the influence. Not really a fan of mellow Chicago

I understood his last words to be 'don't worry, it's not loaded'. I believe one of the band members said that on one of their documentaries.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

You might be right - I read this on Wiki. Many thanks for watching.

@curtiss2000

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct . That was his comment

That guitar needs a cigarette after that performance.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant. Might have to steal that phrase!

The days to see this band were back when they were the house band at the Whiskey A Go Go in 1967-1968. This was their first big break, and where they came to the attention of Jimi Hendrix. He blew into the bands' dressing room between sets, told them they were a "bunch of bad m***********s, said their horns "were like one set of lungs" and their guitarist (Terry Kath) was better the him. The Whiskey was where anyone who was anybody showed up to see and be seen - one night it might be the Who, the next night the Stones, sitting alongside Frank Sinatra and the rest of the Rat Pack. And every night they ended up on their feet stomping and cheering for this rock band with horns that was blowing the doors off.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

How freaking cool is that! George here and I live in LA. I love the sunset strip but I regret not arriving 20 years earlier!

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Tanglewood is in Lenox/Stockbridge Massachusetts. The name was taken from Tanglewood Tales by Nathaniel Hawthorne. He lived there in a small red cottage which is still there. I live very close to it. It has been the summer home of the Boston Symphony Orchestra for a century. It is primarily a classical music venue but in the late sixties they began having rock acts, The Who, Jefferson Airplane, Iron Butterfly, Santana. Miles Davis went on before Santana and drove his Rolls right up to the stage. I saw Bob Dylan there for the first time. It's in a beautiful setting (The Berkshire Hills) and the sound quality and acoustics are superb. Well worth a visit if you're in this neck of the woods

Oh yes I can Back up the post by "Dark Ether" 'The Terry Kath Experience". A film by his daughter that never knew him because she was only 2 when he died and includes a search for the guitar that others had been looking for - for decades.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Wow.... cool

I hope you reviewed their cover of “ I’m a Man”..... even the recorded version is brilliant. They cover Stevie Winwoods ( Spencer Davis Group ) version, but it sounds more like the version Hendrix would have done.

There is an excellent documentary on Terry Kath that you need to see, he was more than just an incredible guitarist. It’s called “Chicago: The Terry Kath Experience” and it’s on KZread for free.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Oh awesome. Thank you for the tip

Terry Kath has always been my Guitar Hero.....Great to find a kindred spirit.....Chicago lost something when Terry Kath died.... Checkout the Guitar solo on Questions 67 & 68

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your message and for being here. We hope you enjoyed the vid. Cheers G&A

Hendrix was a very cool dude who loved talking up great young guitarists. Kath was a personal favorite of his as was a pre-ZZ Top Billy Gibbons (back when he was in a band called Moving Sidewalks). Hendrix was so taken with CTA that he immediately gave them a slot opening for him on his next US tour after hearing them for the first time. Actually, I think Moving Sidewalks opened for Hendrix on his very first US tour...

@Bill_Jones.

2 жыл бұрын

Billy Gibbons was on Hendrix’s opening tour. I saw them at the Houston Music Hall. The opening acts were The Moving Sidewalks (with Billy Gibbons), Neil Ford and The Fanatics, and Soft Machine. This was back in 1968. What a show that was !! My very first concert.

BTW Mimi Hendrix saw a show of theirs and straight up told him ( Terri Kath ) he was the best guitarist he ever saw. I think it was after a show at the Whiskey a GoGo. Not sure.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Can you imagine being at The Whiskey and Jimi and Terri where there!

"The legendary guitar player, Jimi Hendrix was blown away by Terry Kath's guitar playing. When first hearing Terry Kath play, Jimi Hendrix was quoted as saying that he thought Terry Kath played guitar better than he did. It was later on reported that Jimi Hendrix also called Terry Kath the “Best Guitarist in the Universe.”

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

and that's a compliment from the highest orbiting sun there is!!!

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The bass player and drummer were keeping up with the solo.

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

You are right!!!!

Absolutely awesome solo which I have watched loads of times...such energy. And this is 1970 not 1974. Check out the whole concert here on KZread

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support and the correction we absolutely appreciate the help. It looks like an amazing concert

Chicago changed when Terry Kath died.......they virtually became a cabaret band.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Ah that's why my preconceptions were wrong. I always imagined them to be smoother and yet this was pure rock heaven! Many thanks - Any other tracks I should listen to?

@MrGettysburg44

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen Try "I'm a Man"......originally a hit for the Spencer Davis Group. Some good stuff on the first album "Chicago Transit Authority".

My brother was at this concert in 1970 and there's kind of a backstory to what you see on stage at first. You see guys frantically trying to put the drum kit back together after the roadies took the stage at the end of the concert. But the crowd had an absolute revolt because they wanted an encore, so you see the band trying to get the kit back into playing condition and Terry Kath kind of created an interlude to the whole thing. Now you know. Oh, and an edit if I may. I've seen Chicago four times, twice with Terry in the band and twice without, and the difference....the energy and vibe of the whole band is different without him. But on a side note, the horn ensemble has never changed throughout the years. Same three guys. Now Tom Pankow the trombone player, has waaaaay too much fun on stage. He's a side show unto himself.

@TheThamesmen

8 ай бұрын

Thank you. What great insight and stories. Love it

Terry Kath did not sing the vocals on this song. It was Peter Cetera. Peter also played Bass. This video has the 7 original members & they were Tight!

Uuhhj. I meant Mimi Hendrix obviously. The song was written so late because of contract obligation deadlines.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Jimi’s younger sister?

Terry Kath was Hendrix’s favourite guitarist. When a journalist asked Hendrix “ what’s it feel like to be the worlds best guitarist ?” Hendrix answered.... “ why ask me, go ask that guy from Chicago.” And no.... Chicago was never accepted by the rock fans because they had a horn section.... ya no thas not weel woken roll.

Poem 58

Jimi Hendrix was asked by a reporter in London on what it felt like to be the World's greatest guitarist, and Jimi replied, I don't know ask the guy from Chicago.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Hope that is true as great line!

@victorgiacobbe4453

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen it is.

Terry Kath did not do the lead vocals on 25 or 6 to 4, Peter Cetera did those vocals & played bass guitar.

It’s all about Terry Kath. Stick to their first 2 albums, or ‘70s video. We lost Terry too soon, and after his passing the band became a pop ballad powerhouse, but list their rock n’ roll edge.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

It was all about Terry - well said. Thanks for being here and supporting our little channel. More soon!

@alpetrocelli4465

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen I was lucky enough to see him & the band perform in 1969 at DePaul University’s old Alumni Hall. Hendrix said he was the best guitarist he’d ever heard. I’m new to your show, but how about checking out Dave Bromberg, Wanted Dead or Alive LP, “New Lee Highway Blues” featuring Jerry Garcia on banjo? He also does great covers of “Kansas City” & “Statesboro Blues”. Keep listening to great music from the ‘60s & early ‘70s.✌️❤️🎶

Does anyone else wonder if a young Eddie Van Halen caught this show? I'd put Kath up against Hendrix, Blackmore, or just about anyone else around at that time, since Buck Dharma hadn't yet started recording.

The true story is Jimmy Hendricks was asked, “How does it feel being the greatest guitarist in the world?” His response was, “I don’t know, you have to ask that dude in Chicago.” .... He didn’t even know Terry Kath’s name at the time.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

I think that was made up. I triple checked this and haven't found any source but nice story anyway. Thanks or being here and more soon.

@oldmanghost219

2 жыл бұрын

(@@TheThamesmen I think that was made up. I triple checked this and haven't found any source but nice story anyway. Thanks or being here and more soon. ) There are multiple sources that Jimi was in awe of Terry's guitar skills. Some are told in the film "The Terry Kath Experience" You can hear what Joe Walsh said from himself. What i think is Jimi would would praise other greats. But Terry's life was cut short just hours before he was to go into a recording studio with a new 4 piece band where he would have control. With his skill the possibilities were enormous. He is considered by many to be the most underrated guitar player.

There is a town outside of Boston called Reading.

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

Is it a shit hole as well

@deborahbarchard5957

Жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen No. Actually, the western suburbs of Boston are quite nice. And many with town names adopted from England due to Massachusetts. history.

Aplausos de pié para esta presentacón histórica!, Qué calidad musical por favor!!! No por nada JImmy Hendrix se confesó admirador de este guitarrista, el gran Terry Kath.

We have a reading in Pennsylvania, spelled that way

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

New Reading not old Reading

Chicago formerly known as The Big Thing changed their name to Chicago Transit Authority. They changed their name to Chicago when the city bus system filed a law suit. All of the horn players were graduates from DePaul University's School of Music

@curtiss2000

3 жыл бұрын

I am a fan of all of the groups who had horn sections in the 70's such as Chicago, Tower of Power, Ohio Players, Blood Sweat & Tears ect... Chicago is a very nice studio recording group. I was in the Army stationed in Okinawa Japan when Terri Kath placed a load gun to his head and pulled the trigger. He had no idea the gun was loaded. Tragic and sad ending of a good musician.

Stockbridge Mass. USA

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect thanks

Trombone solo on a song called "Mother" by Chicago

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Not an expression you here very often. Trombone solo!

The whole album is great.

A great bit is "Ballet for a Girl from Buchanan" also live at Tanglewood. I saw Chicago in '73 and '76. After Kath died in '78, Chicago became a glorified lounge act.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Shame

@robertrouse4503

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen incidentally, "Ballet for a Girl from Buchanan" is the best way to hear Make Me Smile and Colour My World together. Plus Tanglewood is great.

CHICAGO, " 25 OR 6 TOO 4 ". CHICAGO WAS THE BEST LATE 60'S EARLY 70'S. WHEN KATH PASSED AWAY CHICAGO MUSIC DIED. HIS GUITAR WAS GONE AND HIS RASPY SOULFUL VOICE. IT REALLY SUCKED. MORE... " MAKE ME SMILE ", " BEGINNINGS "...

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

More soon!. Thanks for being here and supporting us.

They started out with a hard rock edge then transitioned to the power ballads. "Introduction" written by Terry (1st song on the 1st album) "takes you through the changes" as Terry puts it.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Cool! More soon!

Please check out Chicago, Make Me Smile... for terry Kath singing and Guitar,

Remember to make sure the gun's chamber is empty! Always assume the gun is loaded!

@TheThamesmen

Жыл бұрын

Just don’t have a gun around! It’s not complicated

Hey there’s a Reading, PA and it’s spelt the same! Lol.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Oh but we had it first!

@stefaniebrauer128

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen 😁 Indeed you did.

Watch " Poem 58 "! Great .

Just watch the whole concert from Tanglewood. It's easier and also better. Better than the albums in many cases.

Writing music for an album throughout the night. "Should I do some more?" It's "25 or 6 to 4" o'clock in the AM. Before transitioning to power ballads Chicago started out with a hard rock edge. On the 1st album they actually put Terry in the studio by himself with his guitar and he did what they called "Free Form". Not a song just making all kinds of sounds and "Noodling" for 15 minutes. However the trombone player wrote a song called "liberation" (DO STUDIO VERSION) to showcase Terry. It not only showcases Terry but also the drummer. For more live stay with this Tanglewood concert. They finish it off with ("Ballet For A Girl In Buchannon" Make sure it is 14 minutes). It was cut up by others. and the encore for the Tanglewood concert is "i'm a Man". BEWARE - Chicago never recorded "Make Me Smile" or "Colour My World as a single. The Band was surprised when the record company cut the out for AM radio which was king in 1970 and had a 3 minute time limit. You can hear the tape splice at the end of "Make Me Smile" where they added "Now More Than Ever" to it. I am talking about the "Ballet" song mentioned above. The following copied and Pasted from Wikipedia --- "Ballet" takes up three-quarters of side two of Chicago and consists of seven tracks, three of which are instrumentals: "Make Me Smile" (Lead vocals by Terry Kath) "So Much to Say, So Much to Give" (Lead vocals by Robert Lamm) "Anxiety's Moment" (Instrumental) "West Virginia Fantasies" (Instrumental) "Colour My World" (Vocals by Terry Kath) "To Be Free" (Instrumental) "Now More Than Ever" (Lead vocals by Terry Kath)

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Ok. Noted. Thanks

Tanglewood Massachusetts.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks David....

Terry Kath was Jimmy Hendrix favorite guitar player.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about that..... I've triple checked and CANNOt for the love of life find an actual quote - BUT he's bloody brilliant

Funny thing about it is, when Terry Kath was asked to join the band he was a bassist.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

How crazy is that!!

The terry kath era was a different sound as opposed to the later chicago era. People have strong opinions on what people prefer.

@orangetabby3229

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the early Chicago/ Terry Kath years were the best. After Terry, a different sound and direction.

Please listen to: I’m a Man (cover) at Tanglewood Poem 58 CTA Beginnings CTA Sing a Mean Tune Kid Chicago III Takin it on Uptown Chicago XI Dialogue Pts. 1 and 2 Chicago V

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant (alex here) I will start going through these and have a listen... Thanks so much for the support!

Also I'm a Man is a great song.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Was great. Was one of our earliest videos: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4CCu8-AZLvAmLw.html Those were the days

@bearculb7717

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen I will check it right now Thanks for the reply. I liked your SRV reactions.

I forgot to recommend you check out a group called Chase. The guitar player is no comparison to Terry Kath but the brass blows Chicago's away and their lead singer is amazing. Sorry for forgetting that.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Ok will do. Thank you for tip.

@stephaniethurmer5370

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen start with Open Up Wide(which is all instrumental, then Handbags and Gladrags. Those will take you down the rabbit hole. This group also has a sad ending. Most if not all were killed in a plane crash.

@oldmanghost219

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Chase! The song. "Get It On". Imagine a stage band with only the trumpet section. with the rhythm section drums bass keyboard and the singer.

Make me Smile. Questions 67 or 68. I heard another version of song meaning. I heard many years ago that it was he woke up early and looked at analog clock thinking it was 20 to 5 or 6 minutes to 4. Picture a clock upside down and it makes more sense. Thanks

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Oh that makes sense!

@robertrouse4503

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheThamesmen Actually, the time was 25 or 26 to 4am. 25 or 6 to 4

Hey! I live near Reading Pennsylvania! Same spelling and pronunciation as yours. Check out the game Monopoly. That Reading Railroad once existed in PA.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

It's spelt all wrong. Our Reading is a shit hole. What's yours like?

@davidblitch1819

3 жыл бұрын

It’s also an unpleasant place to be.

Here's the whole final edit concert >>>===> kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaN10bWTYtyXk9o.html RIP, Terry Kath. I saw 2 of their shows. BTW, Kath was also known as "the white Ray Charles"

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, thank you. As it happens the 'Wheel of For-Tune' as decreed I need to find a Chicago track to surprise Alex with. Can you recommend one particular track that could work? (BTW love your youTube name, very cool and named after one of my favorite films!)

Poem 58 or South California Purples or Liberation.

@TheThamesmen

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Meldon!

Wtf my j is an m apparently.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

How weird :-)

hate to burst yur bubble but in PA. there's a "Reading" pronounced Redding too. Look closer to the East coast to find your American /Welsh/Scot/Brit roots.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris.... Makes sense eh... east is where the Pilgrims started. Be well

I'm a man

Joni Hendrix once said that Terri Kath was, in his opinion, THE best guitar player he ever heard.

@TheThamesmen

2 жыл бұрын

Plus apparently he said that about Rory Gallagher and Alvin Lee ... He was generous

That was in 1970 not 1974...just saying. 2 weeks later Santana put on a great show there as well.