Reacting to the "Death" of Last Epoch

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This video generated a bit of good discussion. I do feel like it's worth sharing with the YT audience even though by the end of it, I discover that I pretty thoroughly disagree with what I understand the premise to be.
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  • @unusedTV
    @unusedTV3 ай бұрын

    Watching you at 1.75x and then you speeding him up is an interesting listening experience.

  • @YouMayKnowMeAsNate

    @YouMayKnowMeAsNate

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m at 2x speed already lol

  • @supersonic060
    @supersonic0603 ай бұрын

    hi, he answers his own question at 39:10. he doesn't understand why he cant progress, but then he actually says why :D and its because he lacks gear and skill!!

  • @Kithira
    @Kithira3 ай бұрын

    That guy should fix his microphone, I couldn't watch at all

  • @Dr3adful
    @Dr3adful3 ай бұрын

    Also I want to point out something about boss damage reduction. It almost never exists for most players anymore, mainly due to the fact that most endgame content bosses in high corruption have 700% more health and damage instead of 150% more health and damage. The standards people view for builds is significantly higher this patch. Before most people would sit at 300c because pushing further would suck for the most part, but now the grind and climb is much more gradual, allowing you to put on the difficulty without it feeling like nails on a chalkboard. So when he says *boss damage reduction sucks*, its *my build sucks and does not do enough damage* because the only way you are experiencing boss damage reduction right after hitting empowered monoliths is when you are playing something insanely strong, like Bird falconer or insert random other rogue skill here. As someone who hates Boss DR with a passion, I can tell you that with the new scaling system, you barely encounter it unless you are either abusing a bug, or are playing something overtuned *cough* dive bomb. good video Perry

  • @nogerboher5266

    @nogerboher5266

    3 ай бұрын

    What do you mean i literally got 1.2k cor with one of the shittest builds in the game

  • @GilgameshGDLK
    @GilgameshGDLK3 ай бұрын

    What is your paladin build? I've been rocking HH/Bolt on mid 200s Corr.

  • @ConvoyD2
    @ConvoyD23 ай бұрын

    He should stick with D4

  • @danhibiki2
    @danhibiki23 ай бұрын

    18:00 what he's saying is that there's no big bad boss to farm for epic loot. There's no sirus or maven or whatever the current league boss is. Fighting these bosses is a fun way to easily see how strong your character has become. In last epoch, you're just on a constant treadmill to get more corruption on your maps.

  • @SithLordBishop
    @SithLordBishop3 ай бұрын

    I HATE daily streaks and rewards

  • @gerbo8018

    @gerbo8018

    3 ай бұрын

    Daily rewards make me feel like i have to login. And that is usually when i start discarding a game. I need to feel like want to not feel forced to.

  • @magemanscrub2954

    @magemanscrub2954

    3 ай бұрын

    If you have to convince me to play is the game worth playing?

  • @jakeskate29
    @jakeskate293 ай бұрын

    I love your other videos. You know the game well and articulate it in an understandable way. I have no idea why you chose to react to this video. I lost brain cells watching it. He honestly just seems like a new player that doesn't really know the game but still feels like giving a review of it. Looking forward to you going back to your other videos or choosing to react to videos with some substance.

  • @Brom8Ganrok5

    @Brom8Ganrok5

    3 ай бұрын

    I feel the same way

  • @brunobalderrabano9448
    @brunobalderrabano94483 ай бұрын

    I'm very patient I can wait for the game to get better. As is right now is excellent, much better than Poe when it first came out. The direction and decisions at high fundamental level are also top notch. I dread getting to the point on Poe where I have to bulk buy scarabs which is preeety soon. The game is going to be marvelous in a couple of years or even earlier. Love the content man, keep doing good work!

  • @PekkkiR

    @PekkkiR

    3 ай бұрын

    Well said 👍

  • @dansmith8417
    @dansmith84173 ай бұрын

    People need to understand that the things they want to see LE will take time. Yes, LE has had years of development, but people forget that this game started as a Reddit thread. It's come a very long way. I have no doubt EHG will deliver changes we want to see, especially to the endgame. They have not disappointed me so far, even with 1.0 launch being a disaster online. This isn't a multi-billion dollar corporation. I would say that people just need to have patience. I think great things are on the way from LE.

  • @ragefury3833

    @ragefury3833

    3 ай бұрын

    U shouldn't release bugged game period and fix bugs ASAP, and not asking if they should.

  • @dansmith8417

    @dansmith8417

    3 ай бұрын

    @@ragefury3833 when is the last time a game was released bug free?

  • @ragefury3833

    @ragefury3833

    3 ай бұрын

    @@dansmith8417 u can't ask this question since this game was in beta for 5 years 🤣 No games currently releasing without bugs, but such a long beta test, with such big amount of bugs, and one months before new season of poe. Meh, it was too overhyped

  • @jefrey488

    @jefrey488

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@ragefury3833so you literally compare a group of 4 friends vs a Multi-million dollar company to produce the same service? 😂 weird comparison but have it your way 😂

  • @ragefury3833

    @ragefury3833

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jefrey488 sure sure, hf on waiting another 5 years to fix an issue 🤣

  • @BicBoi1984
    @BicBoi19843 ай бұрын

    People who don't understand how game design works tend to think $$$ = immediate boost to workflow. You cant throw money at something expecting it to work. People need to work on things and it takes time.

  • @HurrikanEagle
    @HurrikanEagle3 ай бұрын

    So, I'm listening to this while I play LE on my (Admittedly, feels unethical and boring, I'm trying to get gear for a new dragonsong cinder strike rogue) jelkhor's MM atm. I agree with you listening in. A lot of what he's saying is just build issues. Something that's stood out to me, is just how much power I was leaving out of my builds, by just, not doing any slams, hoping to get that one super LP/Exalted combo instead. So I was struggling. Heck, I also have a 98 judgment aura paladin and a 85 dive bomb falconer. Do they start to slow down and feel off at higher levels? SUre, yes. But I think part of that is also because I hasve my marksman that I can go get gear on. Also, the novelty of Dive Bombing things for 6 digits in the 80s is wearing off. The downsides (especially bossing) of judgement aura fell off. I want to try your healing hands reave build or your divine bolt build, only because those look more my speed for paladin. But I agree with a lot of your points, he's arguing from such a flawed premise, that the arguments he's making feel hollow. I agree with the arguments (and your statements), but they're just. RAWR (Right Answer, Wrong Reason). RAWR is really bad here. PS. I've started sharing yiour builds and channel with friends, really enjnoying the content your putting out. GIVE ME SOME ROGUE THOUGH! (Marksman prefgerred. GD, I'd LOVE an actual non-trap marksman build. And hail of arrows doesn't look to be my style.)

  • @davide9495
    @davide94953 ай бұрын

    I seriously don't get 99% of the criticism towards LE. Not because it's a perfect game but because it's always "I don't like grinding" or "The story is not fully voice-acted" or whatever. Dude, do you even know how ARPGs work? I played Lost Ark for months, and no one in my guild even read a single dialogue of the game. No one had any idea what was going on with the raids or the bosses. Same for any MMO/ARPG, never encountered anyone who really read the story, the lore etc. It's an RPG, kill everything that's not on your team and loot everything that shines on the ground. Then there is my favourite: People: "LE doesn't resemble enough N game" Me: "Why you don't go play that game?" People: "Because I don't like it" ....ok PS: Love any kind of discussion video. I always learn something from your videos.

  • @neos8421

    @neos8421

    3 ай бұрын

    lost ark bosses are fun though the bosses in last epoch aren't fleshed out enough and ti's why i struggle playing it

  • @ChupiSama

    @ChupiSama

    3 ай бұрын

    Talk for you, theyre millions of players that buy Diablos games only for the history, they end the history 1 time and leave...

  • @keithwinget6521

    @keithwinget6521

    3 ай бұрын

    @@neos8421 What are you talking about? What is your definition of "fleshed out"? Also, what do you mean by "Struggle playing it"? Is it too hard? It's just not clear at all what you mean, sorry.

  • @mauree1618

    @mauree1618

    3 ай бұрын

    That's the thing I don't get about these ARPGs if players don't engage with that content then why bother using the resources to make it? We're always skipping past any dialogue and we abhor cinematics or anything that slows us down in the campaign.

  • @tonyverdechi9157

    @tonyverdechi9157

    3 ай бұрын

    Maps reset No companion (IAVH did a great job a decade ago but LE don't even have one...) Bugs Translation is average at best (mine is not in english) Team up in multiplayer is not as easy than many games Like pretty much all games in this genre or alike, the stretch between the best and the worst skills is too high so it doesn't favor to blindly make builds Story is not engaging and dialogues are very static. Etc. Not a con but, for some peoples, it is too complicated for some peoples. I'm not counting it because it's just a preference. Not saying LE is bad. But I totally understand peoples who dislke it or just don't perceive it as "great".

  • @gerbo8018
    @gerbo80183 ай бұрын

    I love to respec my character and try new things out. Like my necromancer i played 5 versions of it and just tried things out. it got my levels up, i don't have to do the campaign every time and respeccing is easy. Its something i love about this game.

  • @narulovechannel2249
    @narulovechannel22493 ай бұрын

    LE is the perfect game for me. The right amount of grind that would take years lol.

  • @iFullgogo
    @iFullgogo3 ай бұрын

    LE has had the same end game content since it came out 5 years ago.

  • @PerrythePig

    @PerrythePig

    3 ай бұрын

    Not even "well ackshually": there is much more content than there was 5 years ago. The endgame still is not good -- and I've made a video saying as much -- but what you've said is just a lie.

  • @LakerTriangle
    @LakerTriangle3 ай бұрын

    His audio and slow nature make this hard to watch for me...

  • @qdlaty23

    @qdlaty23

    3 ай бұрын

    Right? I stopped watching like 3-4 minutes in. This guy needs to work on his presentation skills. I have no idea what he was trying to say and it he was doing it in such an undigesitble way. OMG

  • @demos113
    @demos1133 ай бұрын

    Game just released, a loopy lad.

  • @owshii7539
    @owshii75393 ай бұрын

    The BG music really suits this video lmao

  • @evan752
    @evan7523 ай бұрын

    I have been farming for over 20 hours at 200 corruption. Havent seen a 3LP item let alone a 4 LP one. That means to me I have beat the game. Im not going to create a new character to try and grind again, there is no point. Why do game devs want me to spend 100+ hrs on each character?

  • @wanderdota
    @wanderdota3 ай бұрын

    my god i'm amazed by your patience, how did this guy just rant for 40 minutes and not say anything more than 'i dont like boss DR' 2) The reason for the survey debacle is because of the D4 trainwreck of blizzard just nerfing everything after release. There was a huge uproar about that. Some people using bugged/overtuned builds don't want their builds to get nerfed so EHG released a survey that they can reference when they do nerf them. They at least gave the meta slaves an option to vote, and I think that's a good thing and pretty inconsequential.

  • @kingzluv6359

    @kingzluv6359

    3 ай бұрын

    To be quietly honest boss dr really sucks ass tho. I feel like you barely feel any progression at all because of that. Other than that game is pretty fun for 1-2 weeks.

  • @sol5916
    @sol59162 ай бұрын

    Personally, my main issue with Last Epoch is the reward structure. The LP grind is exceptionally boring to me. I wish that there was a purpose to pushing corruption beyond some magical promise of higher quality loot. I think they should add an endgame progression system where pushing corruption gradually gains you power. Feast or famine just isn’t fun. Furthermore, I think they should focus on enemy defenses over offenses as you push corruptions higher. The barrier at 1000 corruption should be the damage your build can put out, not how much damage you can take.

  • @BicBoi1984
    @BicBoi19843 ай бұрын

    Every game 'dies' once in a few months. Classic.

  • @YouMayKnowMeAsNate

    @YouMayKnowMeAsNate

    3 ай бұрын

    My hatred for the phrase “Game ded” is only rivaled by “lazy devs”

  • @MrPhyrce
    @MrPhyrce3 ай бұрын

    I would be happy if Julra didn't randomly teleport the bomb with her 1 out of 20 runs.

  • @DirtRabbit
    @DirtRabbit3 ай бұрын

    “They need to nerf dot damage on players” Literally never got high enough level to use “reduced damage over time” implicit gear… Edit: Okay I don’t know that for sure I guess. But his high level rune master he mentioned was only 84. I know the gloves are 86 min. Lvl

  • @evan752
    @evan7523 ай бұрын

    Making new characters is trash in last epoch. I dont want to level to 50 before i get to use a full set of skills. Trying to expiriment with builds in last epoch is torture. Oh you want to try and use a new skill on your level 100 character? Yeah you are going to have to gimp your build while you have to level the skill. The devs have kept this since the beginning, why?

  • @rbkskillz

    @rbkskillz

    3 ай бұрын

    Dude... Have you made it to level 100? It takes 1 exp echo to get back to level 20 skills after a respec.

  • @kriskenmonroe1
    @kriskenmonroe13 ай бұрын

    He's really triggered by boss DR.

  • @YamaDrahma

    @YamaDrahma

    3 ай бұрын

    And he massively overestimates his builds....

  • @rbkskillz
    @rbkskillz3 ай бұрын

    I like boss DR. I think killing bosses in less than 3 seconds in D4 is a massive problem.

  • @manbeerpig_7173
    @manbeerpig_71733 ай бұрын

    why is he recording in his bathroom?

  • @criptomart3352
    @criptomart33523 ай бұрын

    I like your channel and the idea of react videos, but please look for actual thoughtful content to react. This guy is just not getting what the game is about and what it should accomplish. There are a lot of thing to improve but I think he misses the point in most of it.

  • @Dartlin
    @Dartlin2 ай бұрын

    Though I’d agree boss DR is annoying, I think things like the shade of orobyss having his overhead rock slam animation happened so jarringly etc that it feels really annoying to push two or three shades just to get one shot by some JANKY animation and progress essentially LOST to RNG, this is a huge reason why I don’t play hc, there are like three different attacks from orobyss alone that have badly timed telegraphs that 1 shot you and give no time to dodge unless you’re a ward build with 30k and just tank the hit

  • @JA-qs9sm
    @JA-qs9sm3 ай бұрын

    is there also a way to slow down the video so i can keep up with him?

  • @ghostlightx9005
    @ghostlightx90053 ай бұрын

    Isn't the boss DR just the boss's Endurance kicking in? Anyway, endgame begins at 200 corruption on empowered. Guy's build sucked. Also I have quite a few builds that can 2- to 3-shot Lagon. Kills him in less than 5 seconds in phase 1. Shrug.

  • @YamaDrahma
    @YamaDrahma3 ай бұрын

    My take away is "I didnt gear my character but i complain my damage output is low." It really sounds like skill issue. His points sound like re-heated content that he didnt bother to understand or make coherent argument around. //EDIT// Considered seeing comments on his video but honestly i dont think I want to give him the engagement points he is so clearly begging for. Does not deserve the platform.

  • @BlackBlur888
    @BlackBlur8883 ай бұрын

    This guy seems lost in his own thought process

  • @brigittedarcel1498

    @brigittedarcel1498

    3 ай бұрын

    This guy is a a Troll plain and simple. Maybe he figures the title will draw in viewers. There isn't a game out there that is flawless but in the end the question is "Are you having fun?" and if the answer is Yes then 'nough said.

  • @j000pe
    @j000pe3 ай бұрын

    I can't listen to this dude, sorry.

  • @xDixonDallasFan69x
    @xDixonDallasFan69x3 ай бұрын

    I don't even need to listen past the point of "I want to feel strong when I'm strong and I want to feel tanky when I'm tanky.". I 1110% agree. I play video games to enjoy them and want to feel rewarded for the time put in. If I grind long enough to Destroy certain aspects of the game, game mechanics shouldn't bring me back down to a certain power level. We enjoy those mechanics they created at some point but enjoying them 24/7 because They want to force it on us is whack.

  • @Brom8Ganrok5
    @Brom8Ganrok53 ай бұрын

    Has he bot seeö all the sub 10s T4 Julra

  • @kostime6780
    @kostime67803 ай бұрын

    Bugs and overtunned builds have much more impact on the game. I just lost the will to investigate different builds and mechanics when I saw that there are completely broken builds 10...500 times stronger than an avarage good build before 1.0. After some bugs were fixed there is still a maksman with bugged nodes in detonating arrow that kills any boss at 2k+ corruption in seconds, hh that give you up to 4k ward on a single cast and a necromancer with a lazy build that also kills 1k+ bosses in seconds. Have I any chances to find interesting srong build with old skills that are as strong as new broken ones? Do I want to try another class that is 10+ times weaker? My answer is no. But it still may become yes if the broken builds are fixed and nerfed.

  • @SithLordBishop
    @SithLordBishop3 ай бұрын

    Bosses are such a small part of the game

  • @heroplayer02
    @heroplayer023 ай бұрын

    i dont understand why he want to only play last epoch i mean if you tryed the things that you wanted jump on a differnt game play it play new league in poe and when it gets boring maybe there is a new league in last epoch and you can try it out.

  • @Brom8Ganrok5
    @Brom8Ganrok53 ай бұрын

    I feel like this guy played one char. and wasnt too good at it, while just following a guide. ge doesnt seem to know to much about the game, and srill think he needs to complain.....

  • @mylesmiller5979
    @mylesmiller59793 ай бұрын

    I do agree with him the end game and replayability is seriously lacking

  • @dougpridgen9682
    @dougpridgen96823 ай бұрын

    For anyone else who also plays tabletop rpgs, this boss dr learn the mechanics concept is called railroading and it’s what bad game masters do. Players who devise clever builds and work arounds should be rewarded for their efforts by being allowed to reap the benefits of it.

  • @rbkskillz

    @rbkskillz

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't think that works tbh. Railroading is about pushing you along on a story path no matter how the party handles or reacts to situations.

  • @TrenchcoatJesus

    @TrenchcoatJesus

    3 ай бұрын

    Except it's not. He (Havoc Gaming) thinks it is, and you incorrectly think it is, but it really isn't. Railroading would be something like, 'No matter how powerful your caster is, this creature has spell immunity.' It's an arbitrary, inflexible barrier used to curb you in. To put you 'on tracks' as the term railroading implies. Boss DR is not that. It is flexible. If you have a character that does 200 DPS it will always kill a boss faster than a character that does 100 DPS. Which will in turn be faster than 50 DPS. Which is faster than 25 DPS. Boss DR does not make your DPS irrelevant, it simply curbs the upper end to be **less** relevant. We're talking about, in this context, your kill time for having 51 million DPS is very similar (maybe only a second or so) different from having 50 million DPS. Havoc Gaming seems to think by his argument and fixation on it that there is no functional difference between 25,000 DPS and 50,000 DPS- that there's "no point" once you reach, say, 10,000 DPS to invest any more time or effort into increasing damage. He is wrong. He does not understand how the system works. All Boss DR really does is make damage not the **only** thing that matters. It makes sustain and defenses relevant. It makes skill relevant. Oddly enough- I'd say that's a trait of GOOD game masters; making things besides raw damage become relevant and important to overall success. If you fail to do that- either in an ARPG or for a tabletop RPG, players will inevitably trend towards the things which guarantee success. For Tabletop RPGs: You promote murderhobos who are min-maxed for combat and damage instead of characters with a diverse set of skills and abilities useful both in and outside of combat scenarios. For ARPGs: You promote glass cannons whose defense is their ability to one-shot everything before it can load in. I won't call Last Epoch's approach with Boss DR a perfect solution, but neither would I call PoE's 'hands off' approach a perfect solution. Ubers in PoE do tend to lose their luster once you can kill them so quickly (sub 10 seconds) that you don't even need to know or dodge their mechanics.

  • @dougpridgen9682

    @dougpridgen9682

    3 ай бұрын

    @@rbkskillz Right, so if a game developer is going to use game mechanics to make your innovative build less effective how is it a different concept (other than it may not be intentional on the part of the game developer). It’s not just about the story it’s about unnecessarily limiting options.

  • @dougpridgen9682

    @dougpridgen9682

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TrenchcoatJesus I actually didn’t agree with much of what the guy in the video said. I love playing the game and the point is having fun. My only point is that if a player thinks of innovative ways to make his character stronger, slapping his hand away and saying no, limiting options and therefore fun, is unnecessary and analogous to railroading. On the other hand anyone who doesn’t like a game doesn’t have to play it. I like this game and I will continue to play it. Thanks for explaining boss dr that makes more sense now.

  • @dougpridgen9682

    @dougpridgen9682

    3 ай бұрын

    @@TrenchcoatJesus Actually since you explained it that’s no different from characters having resistances, armor, health, ward, and so on. So this guy wants bosses to be defenseless?

  • @KazekanAgiel
    @KazekanAgiel3 ай бұрын

    This was really hard to watch, but I somehow managed to get through it. 😅 For someone that seems to make a lot of sweeping statements or claims about what “most people” do and do not want, let alone why EHG does/does not do something, he sure doesn’t seem all that concerned with establishing credibility. I don’t have any issue with small content creators having an opinion. What I do have issue with is small content creators claiming to know what the masses want without sufficient evidence (which, given the size of his YT channel, likely isn’t going to come from his small base of viewers). Perhaps if he did a survey… 😉 As you said, though, bad arguments get in the way of good arguments, and there were lots of bad arguments that further suffered from inaccurate attribution. Critical thinking is difficult, but at least it’s a skill that can be improved, and I wish him the best. Thanks for doin’ the vid!

  • @Tibasu
    @Tibasu3 ай бұрын

    Interesting how he mainly complains about boss DR when there are videos out there of people absolutely demolishing bosses in seconds. Just sounds like he's too bored to min-max a character to get to that point, which just sounds like he should play a different ARPG.

  • @EricGauthier1986
    @EricGauthier19863 ай бұрын

    I think he just mis-understands what's happening. It's not the Boss DR that's making his fight take 5+ minutes. It's that his build sucks and he's taking 5 minutes. He's complaining about things and saying there is no point in going further in the game because he had a hard time before he actually fully experiencing end-game.

  • @robertbensch7748
    @robertbensch77483 ай бұрын

    I am not a pro on LE, and as always have chosen one of the weakest classes in the game. My goal is to finish all monoliths on normal difficulty with every character, which - in my opinion, should be possible with every combination of build the player choses. But as a sorcerer build I am forced into one build thats possible without extensive farming for gear, and thats the mana strike. Everything else is just so much harder to gear up from items and synergies. Compared to diablo 3, where every season a different character and build was a bit stronger and took the top 5 of the rifts, naturally - in LE the leaderboard of the arena is the metric. And here we have ridiculous discrepancies between the classes. The highest sorcerer build is someplace around arena 300, while the top player is at what, 3000 something? Factor 10 is too much to be called anything close to balanced. One way to fix this, in my opinion, is to add unique items, a lot of them. Grab each special class skill and build a unique item on it with a synergy to something else in either the same skill tree or the base class skills that makes sense. The most powerful characters seem to be the ones that have multiple synergies on skills which also have a very strong unique item supporting or proccing them. That´s something diablo 3 did very well. If I found a good unique that adds or changes how one of the core skills works you can build a character or playstyle around it, and were usually pretty well set up for rifts. If I say "Oh I love fireball" I only have very few options to build a character that is able to finish all the monolith timelines, not even talking about corruption. Another thing I would suggest is to make "weavers will" a possibility on all unique (so its either barebone, legendary potential or weavers will) and set items. Sets are cool, but more or less useless in LE, which is a shame.

  • @xSpeakerYT
    @xSpeakerYT3 ай бұрын

    That guys echo in his video is unbearable. Also why is his cam in the middle of the screen?

  • @allyoucouldate9510
    @allyoucouldate95103 ай бұрын

    end-game in LE currently is very poor and problematic, game will die because of that.

  • @jonathandurand8640
    @jonathandurand86403 ай бұрын

    my god i hate people want a game exactly how they want it , if you want it exactly what you LIKE then do like EHG and make your own game , i hate it i hate it

  • @Kevfactor
    @Kevfactor3 ай бұрын

    You know for some reason I do think there are lot of people that seem to get mad and fanboy toomuch that there are any criticisms of a small indie game. LE wasn't for me as i didn't care for a pointless rift treadmill again(You need static content like color tiers and balance the broken power creep stuff!). But i do see a lot of design choices that tells me the team is pretty competent and gives me hope the end game gets better. I don't regret buying LE at all tbh. it was a great 2 weeks. I'll be back if they make some content worth coming back to. if not it was only 35$ and got my moneys worth. people act like the game was a diablo assets dumb hehe :)

  • @psychodriveskip
    @psychodriveskip3 ай бұрын

    Did this chap say chap 10 - 12 are coming with the next patch? I *highly* doubt that chap 10 - 12 are *all* coming with 1.1. EhG simply don't move that fast :D chap 10 will be good to see, so I'm hoping for that :) and boss DR shakeup, let's go!

  • @PerrythePig

    @PerrythePig

    3 ай бұрын

    I highly doubt this as well. Not sure where he's getting his info from

  • @phillipbrazauski2876
    @phillipbrazauski28763 ай бұрын

    Here is my solution to making the game more difficult -- be able to modify the echoes like maps in POE. You scale the difficulty you want and reap the benefits from the rewards. Which is another topic. Better rewards. Need endgame chase items besides just exalted and LP gear. And please remove the nerf for XP, it was fine before (did LE not learn anything from D4 on release?). I have played 2000 hrs. of Last Epoch since 0.8.5 release and leveling right now is atrocious to me. My main character is almost to 99 now and not sure I will even get to 100. Not only is character leveling too much of a grind but so is the faction. Probably won't even max out my faction (currently around 8.5). Not sure of my exact play time but I have at least 175 hrs. of time split between my level 98, 75 and 60 characters (and my alts in no way are going to even get a whiff of maxing out at level 100). Now to get back on how to make LE great. The main reason why POE is so successful? Because of the rewards. The rewards are always there to chase with currency, items and being able to craft godly gear. The only way to craft a godly item in LE is if you are lucky enough to get at least a 3 or 4 LP unique (which in many cases is virtually impossible to even get a 1 or 2 LP unique). Crafting is good but can be so much better. When LE has an item like the Mage Blood in POE and you can craft items that are worth several mirrors, then LE will have hit the big time. Until then it will be the same old thing which is good but far from great.

  • @TWDenizen7240
    @TWDenizen72403 ай бұрын

    "Bad arguments get in the way of good ones" is a rather kind way of saying that this person made a whole Nothingburger of a video 🤣

  • @bubbeex1963
    @bubbeex19633 ай бұрын

    What endgame the other games have? D4?? nothing....POE??? POE is wayyy too overcomplicated. Saying this as someone who played it hundreds of hours...

  • @jonathandurand8640
    @jonathandurand86403 ай бұрын

    ibet this guy didnt push a single build over 300 corruption or t4 julra and i believe he did all the content lol

  • @sunnymarcell

    @sunnymarcell

    3 ай бұрын

    oh wow he didnt play the exact same content with 10x more HP and damage

  • @SimpleGeekReviews
    @SimpleGeekReviews3 ай бұрын

    Different strokes for different folks. This dude you reviewed has his own take, you have yours. Both are valid. LE is a great game. Yes, it has its faults. But like POE, its made by love. Unlike D4, which I mean you can tell it is, but like its too corporate. But each game has its players. Some over lap. AND THAT'S OKAY. They can make each other better. Great content, thoughts as always. Also thank you, your Rive build is fantastic to play.

  • @dylanstanfill2897
    @dylanstanfill28973 ай бұрын

    I have ran 4 different characters to over 95 and have yet to notice boss dr. Didn't even know it was a thing until now. My buddy was running a new character and asked me to come help with Lagon in campaign so I did and I literally one shot him, no second phase, just ripped a single chthonic fissure and he was dead in less than a second.

  • @MrDigitop
    @MrDigitop3 ай бұрын

    Just checked LE steam charts, looks like the game is going down real hard! I mean yeah I understand the cyclical nature of aRPGs but damn, didn't think it would start dying this fast and this hard.

  • @DirtRabbit
    @DirtRabbit3 ай бұрын

    Alright Perry is too nice to say this, that guy is dumb. He has some good points, but that doesn’t change the fact that this dude is weirdly intentionally ignorant and giving, what seems to be intentionally bad takes. Like, who thinks a survey to communicate the best course of action between a dev team and a community is a bad thing? That take is intentionally ignorant, intentionally bad faith, and intentionally negative. So dumb…

  • @BloodSynthetic
    @BloodSynthetic3 ай бұрын

    Remember , POE was way worst than Last Epoch when came out , it was almost unplayble for several months .Its a 2 months game ,dont start that 2 years because it was on beta,is no sense. Still for me the best arpg right now even if it lacks endgame , its going to be very good

  • @martinwinter615
    @martinwinter6153 ай бұрын

    yeah that critic event though understandable - but don't think it will kill the game. 1. Most people who play the game are casuals more than the hardcore players who want to achieve the best builds and are frustrated when it is not perfectly balanced or some bugs lead to problems 2. This game has no real competition, Diablo has not the variety and PoE is to complex for many players. LE hits the perfect middle-ground 3. The team is really working with the community and is honest about their progress, so they even adapt stuff they before had different plans which is really important So to think LE is dead cause of this - seems far from being realistic also when LE was out for a month it was 3 weeks in the top 10 is still close to the top 25 and has an average player count of short of 50000. So it will still have it's player base and the game will grow with time, The hardcore arpg player will go to PoE each season and especially PoE2 and Diablo might get some players back with the good changes they make - competition breads excellence. But to think that out of these reasons LE is dead is in my opinion not justified.

  • @toukoenriaze9870

    @toukoenriaze9870

    3 ай бұрын

    PoE and D4 ARE the competition and the reason they push people to LE is those downsides

  • @martinwinter615

    @martinwinter615

    3 ай бұрын

    @@toukoenriaze9870 Sorry was not clear - Point 2 with no competition I meant that Diablo is even simpler and PoE is far more extreme. So after the story many might like to explore a bit something more complex but PoE is to extreme so many casuals will go to LE cause there is no game that hits exactly the spot between these games and has such a good foundation (crafting, trading/explorer mode)

  • @kiergantyrloc6777
    @kiergantyrloc67773 ай бұрын

    Boss DR is EHG's ego showing. I could care less how much time you put into your "mechanics". Killing my characters dps to force me to interact with your game is wrong. I tend to stop playing a character around level 80. Grinding hours/days/weeks for miniscule upgrades just so I can do higher corruption is boring. If you like that then good on you! You have something else to do. I'm gonna try a different build and enjoy myself that way. That said, I'm still enjoying LE. I hope they can add more meaningful end game content to make me want to play a character longer. Or at least keep me occupied long enough for a different arpg to grab my attention.

  • @shadamyrr12
    @shadamyrr123 ай бұрын

    dude i tried to watch this video from havoc gaming and i couldnt even make it 10 min. the dude is monotone and boring . it was torture to watch.

  • @brianakers1902
    @brianakers19023 ай бұрын

    He has no idea what he is talking about. Having his face in the middle of the screen is also terrible.

  • @thoronirgros188
    @thoronirgros1883 ай бұрын

    guy plays primalist ofc he doesnt like the game

  • @lovelyastridd
    @lovelyastridd3 ай бұрын

    Running echo and NM dungeon are pretty much the same. LE echo is just shorter maps and objectives. Plus every build in LE is busted because you can just build ward and it can pretty much carry you through anything minimal gear. It make take longer to kill but still you have the ward and not worry about dying.

  • @dylanstanfill2897

    @dylanstanfill2897

    3 ай бұрын

    I mean, you need the gear that gives ward to run it. Plus a decent bit of health built to get a good amount of ward if you're going low life. It's really not as easy as just run ward.

  • @user-wd4xb8tr5i
    @user-wd4xb8tr5i3 ай бұрын

    People saying replayability == end-game miss altoholism as endless replayability potential. In LE i never got higher than 300 corruption, and the reason not the lack of power of my builds but some piece of gear i loot that makes me instantly start a new char.

  • @elvenchakra
    @elvenchakra3 ай бұрын

    Daily log ins is what killed my interest in warframe, they really are a sucky mechanic.

  • @Booker10000
    @Booker100003 ай бұрын

    Lasted about 2 min. Couldn’t listen to that droning mumble very long. Poe league see you soon.

  • @nodders6830
    @nodders68303 ай бұрын

    I've seen streamers take almost 30 minutes to kill a single boss in PoE , it certainly didn't kill that game off .

  • @oFiGuReZo
    @oFiGuReZo3 ай бұрын

    The point about boss dr should be talked about more and is not boring because the devs need to fucking get on it. People have made it known for a long time that it's dumb and we don't like it and they still choose to release 1.0 with it and keep making all these other change but still haven't fixed boss DR. It's not cool and is just pissing people off.

  • @Braddaddyx
    @Braddaddyx3 ай бұрын

    This guy is right with A LOT of his arguments...last epoch has the chance to become a strong ARPG but seems to throw that chance down by doing crazy things that nobody likes (boss DR, forcing players to play bossmechanics like in a jump and run game, midseason nerfing, weak server stability, having non comprehensible mechanics and calculations, much to grindy endgame that takes AGES to push up corruption even if your build and piloting is flawless...) I hope for EHG to get their things together and make a game that players likee)

  • @rbkskillz

    @rbkskillz

    3 ай бұрын

    Players do like LE

  • @Freedom-kl8rt

    @Freedom-kl8rt

    3 ай бұрын

    This guy is a clown

  • @toba5878
    @toba58783 ай бұрын

    just because a argument - is like the same like 5 years ago - or statet since 5 years - makes it not less relevant and boss DR is the worst thing i ever have heared off in a game like this XD 17:50 - i think he still refered to the boss DR - cause what is the point - farming up gear - to get stronger - if you just getting "punished" in a way - whats the point to farm in the first place than

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