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@MrEddieG420

8 ай бұрын

you should watch the whole moore vs bertuzzi thing. Bertuzzi was charged over that and sued

When Todd Bertuzzi hit Steve Moore from behind, not only did Moore have a concussion, he had three fractured vertebrae in his neck.

@canuckfans1994

8 ай бұрын

Moore shouldn't have have it happen like that no. something needed to be done about that discusting blind sided elbow on Naslund, something else was going to happen when ur not willing to take a fight for that reason. only diffrence was todd fell on top of him and it didnt help his stupid teammates jumped on top of him

@CryonicCrusader

8 ай бұрын

@@canuckfans1994 Especially Andrey Nikolishin. But yeah. It was a case of nuking a forest to kill a squirrel.

@coreyhill681

8 ай бұрын

It wasn't just punch in the head from behind, it was also players falling on him,that made it even more worse

@body_by_depuy

8 ай бұрын

@@canuckfans1994 Look, I get supporting your team and, yes, his hit on Naslund was dirty. However, not only did Bertuzzi suckerpunch him, he drove the head of an already unconscious man into the ice with the full weight of his body. That is 100% bitch. He won't drop the mitts? Ok, bang his ass into the boards every second he's on the ice, for every single game he ever plays against Vancouver for the rest of his career. Make him want to be a healthy scratch for fear of the beating he's gonna get if he skates. You don't suckerpunch someone from behind and then drive his head into the ice. It would have been bad enough if Bertuzzi would have thrown the punch and then let him fall (you can easily see in the replay that Moore was out from the punch). Following him down to the ice with his fist in the back of his skull was attempted murder. Bertuzzi should have never been allowed within 100 yards of a rink for the rest of his life.

@KneeJerkReactions13

8 ай бұрын

All those bodies piling on didn't help either. Moore should have just turned around and fought. Bertuzzi effed up bad though. He WAS one of my favorites.Bert had no idea he would ko him he went down with him to fight some more. Twas a horrendous event.

On the guys getting their careers ended on seemingly mundane concussions: They all likely have a long concussion history and the hit you're seeing is just the last straw, not necessarily the worst one they've taken.

1) At 1:51, Johnny Boychuk needed 90 little stitches near his eye. The eye itself was undamaged. 2) At 3:00, that was the second bad concussion Marc Savard received, on a clean hit from a former teammate. The first happened a year before on a dirty hit by Matt Cooke. Savard has spoken public about the severe depression and anxiety he has suffered. 3) At 5:49, Todd Bertuzzi pleaded guilty, but received no prison time, to an assault charge on Steve Moore, who suffered three fractured vertebrae in his neck. 4) It wasn't a career-ending "injury," but for me the saddest incident was what happened to Normand Léveillé in 1982. I was 12 years old and it's one of my earliest hockey memories. Léveillé was a promising 19-year-old, a potential star already playing his second NHL season with the Boston Bruins. One night, during the first intermission in the locker room, he suffered a brain aneurysm. He temporarily lost the ability to walk and talk. Doctors determined the aneurysm was caused by a congenital condition rather than anything on the ice. Now 60, he is married and has recovered enough function to operate a charity to help others with disabilities.

@marcpower4167

8 ай бұрын

To add to 3) Moore filed a lawsuit against Bertuzzi and the Vancouver Canucks. It was tied up for years before they reached an out of court settlement.

@craighanson-rc1md

5 ай бұрын

Normand Leveille wasn't an injury & thus shouldn't be in a clip about suppose career ending injuries.

@JPMadden

5 ай бұрын

@@craighanson-rc1mdI specifically said it was not an injury and did not suggest it should have been included.

@craighanson-rc1md

5 ай бұрын

@@JPMaddeni know why was it included by the creator. I wasn't putting it on you questioning the rational for including it.

A lot of these injuries were on guys who were older and barely able to make the lineup to begin with, the injury kind of just ended everything. Not all of these were so bad that it stopped the guy from playing ever again, but more the final nail in their coffin.

For most people who have never worn a neck guard they probably think it's the solution to what happened in the UK. For someone who grew up in a league where they were mandatory and seeing all the neck guards on the market, approximately 85% of the products out there will NOT provide the protection needed to avoid those freak accidents. They move up and down your neck the entire game and never truly sit still where you need them to. It can cut above the neck guard or below (if it's the type of guard without the bib you tuck under your shoulder pads/jersey). Not all freak accidents can be resolved with a quick fix. There's been many necks cut before and no one brought up neck guards because most people know they won't provide as much protection as most people would think.

American major leagues generally avoid making changes until it hurts their bottom line. It took a spectator being killed to convince the NHL to put catch nets above the end zones.

@JPMadden

8 ай бұрын

Do you mean NFL?

@joshuaking34

8 ай бұрын

@@JPMadden NHL, Nationwide Arena, March 16, 2002, Brittanie Cecil.

@JPMadden

8 ай бұрын

@@joshuaking34Thanks. I wasn't following hockey then, but I'm surprised I was not aware of this tragedy. The words "end zones" confused me.

about the Neck Protection debate, Lars Ehler of the Pittsburg Penguins actually had an interview during a training session and he effectively said. "I wore it in Finland in the youth leagues, because it was required to play. I wore it when I played Professionally in Sweden because it was required. I stopped wearing it when I came the the NHL and noticed no one else was wearing it, and the teams didn't provide one." pretty much once he was given the choice about using the neck guard, he chose to not use it.

@angelinaballerina742

8 ай бұрын

I thought Lars Eller plays for Washington

@angelinaballerina742

8 ай бұрын

He might have got traded or signed

@OlivierVinet98

8 ай бұрын

@@angelinaballerina742 haha he got traded to Colorado last year and signed this year with pittsburgh

the early neck guards (mid 80's - mid 90;s) were verrrrrry obtrusive and uncomfortable. The ones today are way better

I played semi-pro hockey.. I suffered many injuries.. collarbone, wrist, toe, fingers, elbow, back, neck, The list is almost endless, I'm now 54 yes old. Multiple pins, rods, and more scars than there are stars. Back then, the only way to avoid injury,...was to never step on the ice. I wouldn't change a fkn thing if I had the chance to do it over....not one thing.

Pitkänen shatteres hes heel bone and ankle 11 years ago (29y) he was hes teams top d and maybe the best from finland at that time. He got back to ice few years ago... Soon after this accident there was new rule on the icings. Play is stopped as soon as possible if ref knows def will get there first.

Regarding the neck guards not being mandatory. The skates to the face/neck are very rare and while they were scary nobody died until now. Now that someone has unfortunately passed I think the NHL will take a serious look at making them mandatory

Hockeyplayers are the last Gladiators. "I went to a fight and a hockeygame broke out" “Ice hockey is like soccer, but played by gladiators on drugs.” I have committed my whole life to this game and I have the smile to prove it, 43 years old and still play. Greetings from Sweden. When the going gets tough, the tough players get going!!

You should react to the Andrei Kuzmenko injury, He took a puck to the face or you should also react to NHL: Friendly Fire or NHL: Bench Fights

Steve Moore also had multiple breaks in his neck from being driven in to the ice. Bertuzzi is a punk for that.

Bryan Little is extremely lucky to be alive today with how hard that shot was! My buddy passed away from a ricochet of the post right to the back of the ear and ended his life! 😢

Sometimes when entering the corner with a lot of speed you loose an edge or just can't stop so you can take yourself out on the boards and take an awkward fall to injure yourself. Its happened to me plenty of times!

Borowicciki that one did end his career beginning of last season I believe it was. He was a very hard nose defender and suffered alot of concussions in his career and this one was one of the first games of the year and he never could shake the symptoms. He and his wife had just had a child and from his interviews after the season showed that played alot onto his decision to retire.

i think the neck guards will be a thing sooner than later. visors weren’t even mandatory until fairly recently.

Johnny Boychuck 😢 one of my favorites, hell of a hitter

Brian little was my favorite player growing up watching the jets, I still remember watching this game live 😢

@HudsonPeters-ou9pp

3 ай бұрын

Yeah same 😢

Trent McLeary fractured larynx, he didn't breathe for 8 min straight and was conscious the whole time. The fact that the hospital was only a few miles away from the old Montreal Forum saved is life.

If you want a good idea about what concussions do to a person, watch videos of Paul Kariya, concussions completely changed who he is as a person and his life in general. As someone who deals with post concussion symptoms daily, they're no joke.

I've seen the footage of a man who got offed in the field. A guy got superkicked in the throat, left a crime scene-like trail of ketchup as he tried to walk out. Quickly passed away from too much ketchup loss. He was like a human waterfall, quite literally too. Rest in peace

What really sucked in regards to the Tod Bertuzzi punch from behind.. it was one of the last images before a full year-long lockout

I got a hockey stick right in the eyeball. Wasn't too bad though. It was a street hockey stick and the wood on the blade was all splintered and ragged, so it left splinters in my cornea which had to be removed at the hospital, but I can still see so all is good.

I played hockey growing up, they made us wear neck guards and face cages, and thank god they did. I can remember like 2 or 3 times defending in front of my net and an opposing skate collided with my face area, I played a ballsy D-game, but damn it was loud and jarring when a skate hit off my cage

1- Little should of been paying attention to the play 2- Lekohnen needs to be more accountable 3- Dirty Hit 4- Freak Accident (icing has been changed) 5- Tried to avoid Matt Martin (not possible) 6- Head Up 7- Head Up 8- Dirty Hit 9- Dont fight out of your weight class 10- Dont turn out of a hit 11- Bad decision by shooter 12- Bertuzzi is a psycho 13- Trying to change could happen 14- Old time hockey 15- Lost an edge 16- Kipper out of his weight class 17- Wear a helmet 18- Playoff hockey cant be avoided

The adam johnson injury they should really do neck gards

The concussions might not have been the actual injury that ended their career. Concussions are cumulative. You get enough, and it's just too dangerous to play anymore, so you have to retire. Some of these might be a bad concussion, but they might have played on after that, and had more concussions later that lead to them retiring.

@CoffeeMatt10

8 ай бұрын

There’s a few players that have done that, Paul Kariya is the first one that comes to mind, I guess because he came back out in that same game. If they knew back then what they know now about concussions, he would’ve been taken completely away from the building, never mind being allowed back on the ice.

@craighanson-rc1md

5 ай бұрын

@@CoffeeMatt10 concussions are nothing new why suddenly people act like they are is annoying & frustrating. I think it's mostly because of boxing the fact that lately several boxers have died young &/or offed themselves. Regardless are many different levels & issues related to concussions & even now with all the focus no one knows for sure anything nor does everyone or even body respond the same to getting one or the suppose therapy in recovery from one. Each person is different & each body addresses concussions differently let we do the same thing for everyone & wonder why it doesn't work for most. Concussions aren't a ford assembly line you can't treat them or expect each to respond the same. I've had several 2 playing hockey in college many years ago. My worse was in a car accident when a semi truck driver drunk ran a redlight plowing into my car sending the car spinning around the intersection bouncing off several things like curbs & street poles before getting hit by a second car & spun back the other way ending up in a walmart parking lot on upside down. I had to be removed through the trunk of the car.

I remember the McCleary injury. He inspired me to make sure my neck/ throat were protected when I played goalie.

Part of the reluctance to adopt safety gear lies in kind of a macho mentality from the old days that's been dying off as the years go by but still exists in a certain form.

@JPMadden

8 ай бұрын

I've heard people in hockey media say they've been told off-the-record that some NHL players don't wear a protective cup!

There are plenty of rule changes that have occurred because of safety. The Joni Pitkanen injury is a perfect example. Back then, for an icing to occur, the defense has to touch the puck after it crosses their own goal line. There were often times where a player from both teams would race for the puck. What Pitkanen experienced is exactly why they changed the rule to hybrid icing. There was a high risk for injuries, because if something went wrong during the chase, there was no way to stop before crashing into the boards. Now they just have to reach their faceoff circle for icing to occur.

The one at around 5:30 had some previous history before that happened. The player who was attacked had made a dirty hit in a previous game to the Canucks star player, no penalty on the play, no suspension by the NHL. In the game where he got injured, the refs were slanted in their calls and the Canucks wanted revenge and this was the result. I honestly think we are going to see another situation like this soon because the stuff that lead to that situation (refs not calling the proper penalty, NHL Department of Player Safety not doing their job properly) is getting very prevalent again.

1:45 Prime example of how someone gets hit in the face with a skate on accident. Unlike the Adam Johnson death.

@veronicasolis1286

8 ай бұрын

So the goalie tripping the guy was accidental and the tripped player's falling motion was natural? 😂 You people are a joke

@Quarthon

8 ай бұрын

So according to your logic, the goalie purposely tripped him knowing that he would take an "un natural" fall and the skate would or could come up high and cut someone. Right, and its "us people" who aren't seeing things clearly. Thanks for making it clear who is "the joke". My guess is you've never watched an entire game of hockey in your life.@@veronicasolis1286

Re: the very first one with the slap shot to the head - I took one of these too, during high school varsity years. One second I was gliding along and the next was a flash of light and I wake up on the ice with a pool of blood under me. Yes, I was wearing a facemask with my helmet but at the time it was a newer style with the wire cage above and below, and a visor across the middle. It was a hybrid facemask. The puck hit the plastic and snapped it and the edge of that plastic got shoved back and cut me under my eyebrow. 14 stitches. Not too shabby, but I don’t care to repeat it.

I NEEEEEED a “Best of Jack Edwards” video 😂

Love you channel keep it up. Don't mind the colorful l narrative f bomb.

If anything, goalies should be given more credit and chances to score. There’s only been 13 times it’s happened, Ullmark of Boston did it recently and that was insane 😮

the goalies have always worn a neck guard and it didn't stop the blade

I've been watching the USHL for years. I've watched Adam Johnson play before the NHL it's sad to see him go out like he did. RIP

I Remember that Todd Bertuzzi hit on Steve Moore because of all the attention it' got on tv didn't go court

@Dr.Acula76

8 ай бұрын

It definitely went to court. The civil case was settled.

Love Hockey, though sometimes some of these injuries are absolutely cringe. When I was a little kid I witnessed my dad (who was playing in the beer league at the time) a good percentage of his forehead get sliced open due to an collision and one of his buddies skates doing the damage 😨. He had to get stitches (of course) and quit after he realized that if the skate was a ½ft lower he would have gone to meet his maker, that and he had a family to care for. Instead he went to coach my best friends peewee Hockey team a year later.

Bertuzzi's move was dirty af, if I'm not mistaken he ended up being suspended the rest of the season + the next one. But it was triggered by a hit by Moore on Naslund, one of the Canucks' best player, in a previous game. Not trying to justify the assault, just giving the background on it

I just want to say I played hockey for 23 years and I never witnessed anybody cut by a skate. On TV you'll see it every now and then but it rarely happens. I've seen people's nose get ripped off people's ears get ripped off people's teeth through their lips blocking pucks with your face but I've never seen any blood from a skate

As someone with five concussions my short term memory and balance are terrible. Almost got a DUI a few years back because my balance is that bad.

Watch nhl the code of fights next. It’s pretty interesting

In the first one, a face shield and ear guard, open ear helmets are the worst

I played hockey from like 5-17 or something loved it. Wish i took it more serious as a kid… I also grew up playing with Cody cece who used to play for Ottawa senators. I don’t blame you for saying they need neck guards I always said that and possibly even full face masks.. they have swords on their feet… and they go flying around from hits

With the ones that are concussions it’s usually multiple concussions that end the career.

One thing that definitely has to change is the fighting and brawls close to or right over an injured player. It makes me so angry every single time but it happens so often. The last thing an injured player needs is a bunch of other huge players with heavy gear falling on him and with neck injuries it could make the difference between a player recovering or being paralysed for the rest of his life

Getting hit with a hockey puck is like getting hit with a rock?? The pick is frozen in the freezer before and during the game!!! 😮😮😮😮😮

A lot of these concussions are career ending because these guys have had so many the doctors tell them they need to retire if they want to have any quality of life as they get older, or they’re already toward the tail end of their career

I play professional hockey and have played professionally in the US and Europe. What NEEDS to change is ambulances need to be on site and ready in every European professional league. Especially with what we have just seen with Adam Johnson. Hockey is WAY too fast and violent to not have proper medical responses ready. Maybe it wouldn’t have saved Adam, but it would have given him more of a chance. Skimping on trauma response in hockey is unacceptable and it only happens in European leagues. If a league can’t afford it then unfortunately you need to dissolve the league.

The player that took the puck to the throat had an emergency traciatonomy done in the hallway to their dressing room.

As a hockey player that has suffered from concussions yeh it can end ur career I myself can’t play contact hockey anymore because of them still play but don’t try 100% just out there for fun now

I don't mind the neck guards in hockey. The only complaint that I'm seeing is, is it comfortable enough to play with it? If so, then I see no issue!

Ryan Vandenbussche was my coach for a bit when I played hockey. You never asked him about the Kyprios incident tho

There needs to be a major change in hockey which is that every player has to have a cage mask like the goalie because it would make a huge impact in the sport because players won't loose teeth or have a broken nose which also will cut hospital costs because of the cage on the helmets. WHO WANTS THIS CHANGE. Share and like this comment

The first video of Bryan Little sucks. I went to high school with him, and it was cool to see him make it and do so well. To have his career end on such a freak accident is a real bummer.

On neckguards, part of the issue is designing one that doesnt "guide" the skate. Lots of designs would lead to a skate sliding up the guard toward players eyes/mouth/face. Mobility is a lesser concern but the biggest design challenge is making something that absorbs the skate rather than just pushing it to the players face.

@colesmith7754

8 ай бұрын

True they work better with a cage on the helmet

@Shifty51991

8 ай бұрын

​@@colesmith7754yeah thats more or less how they were designed to be used. With a full cage or "fish bowl" type helmets. Not half ones like nhl uses

with neck guards literally no part of the sport changes i honestly dont understand why some people are so opposed to it... the only message that sends out is that yes i would like to not get my neck sliced lmao

Most of these, even intentional hits, the players aren't trying to end someone's career. It's a violent game and everything happens so fast that all it takes is a split second of movement you weren't expecting and you've really hurt someone. Its not all cases though

NOTHING needs to change in hockey and if it does it's up to the players and only the players

What do you think could change in hockey?

@fitzgeraldlansanah5306

8 ай бұрын

Neck guards mandatory

@nickhammer6408

8 ай бұрын

Players are idiots. They need to realize everyone on the ice worked hard to play at this level. They show No respect to anyone... Most of the worst assaulted are just that victims of some idiots like the Hole who killed a guy with an intentional skate to the throat.l. Now if you can't figure that out your not evolved at all .my guess is a room temperature I Q

@nickhammer6408

8 ай бұрын

​@@fitzgeraldlansanah5306 Was never a problem before yup accidents happen ... What you are seeing is intentional like the dickhead kicking the guy in the throat. That league obviously tried to review it and find a way to say an accident. They Couldn't ! Obvious!!!!!

@JP-pr9re

8 ай бұрын

Honestly it depends on how many times a situation occurs or how serious it was. Adam Johnson will be the reason neck guards will be mandatory gear across all leagues. Just like how Bill Masterton made helmets mandatory, Jacques Plante made goalie masks a thing and Manny Malhotra made protective visors mandatory. Guys have ear protection and mouthguards now. They used to never have that. There's concussion protocols and hybrid icing too. Things that didn't exist for a long time. Currently I'd say the mandatory neck guards are the only big thing to change from a safety standpoint. Guys are still going to hit and sometimes they will be dangerous, that is just the nature of the beast unfortunately but it's a long way from the wild west lawlessness we used to have

@joshuaking34

8 ай бұрын

​@@nickhammer6408All American major leagues are like this. It took a spectator being killed to convince the NHL to put catch nets above the end zones.

You should react to Kyle Busch nascar highlights or greatest moments

You gotta see Sens Tim Stützle OT Winning Goal from yesterday(Nov16th) he swung at it and batted out if mid air with 2sec left

Henry Boucha's injury was horrific. He and Dave Forbes got into after Forbes laid a clean but rough check on Henry. Henry through a small cold cock punch at Dave after regaining his balance. Dave vowed to retaliate. Later in the game Dave skated right over to Henry and swung the butt-end of his stick at Henry's face, damaging his eye severely. Henry's vision would be permanently impaired and he retired shortly after. Dave was suspended 10 games for the incident and also was charged but not convicted of aggravated assault. Many believe that the light suspension was due to racism toward Henry's Native American ancestry. Their is an interesting video on Henry's hockey career and life after the incident on PHA (Pro Hockey Alumni)'s channel.

Hockey's a real man's sport end of story nuff said. No cramp criers or foul floppers like in the nba.

Millions of hockey games from minor to pro only 2 blades to the neck that caused death. It sucks but there is no need to change anything. I took my neck guard off first chance I got. Never had any issue.

1:47 intentional, skates don't come up that high, distinct kicking motion, charge him with manslaughter, etc.

That Phaneuf hit on Sauer did end his career.

Don’t know if you’ve seen the video before but you should do NFL career ending injuries

So many of these injuries while freakish might have been prevented with a cage and a neck guard.

CTE can end your career the first time you get a concussion. Lots of times however this isnt their first. theyve been playing for 15+ years before the NHL and get them there too. Its also an NFL injury that ends careers.

Once the technology is there more players will wear neck guards. The current neck guards aren't breathable enough and uncomfortable

This is why I say hockey and rugby are the 2 physically toughest sports out there, and some of these concussions are 2nd and 3rd degree, which case hella CTE and do a lot of damage to the brain. Never underestimate head injuries

Icing has been changed for many years now. (heel bone injury)

So most of the concussions are like their last concussions some tried to come back to play or they had prolonged concussion symptoms

RIP Adam Johnson forever

In high school I came really close to losing an eye or 2. In a goalie, so I think it was my junior year, but it wasn’t in high school hockey it was travel before high school season started. 3 on 1, guy takes a shot, I go down and make the save, rebound comes out to guy on my left, I push over and stretch out, he knuckles it hard into my mask. It falls in front of me and I fall forward on my stomach searching for it. Guy follows up his shot and tries to poke at the puck before I fall on top of it, it’s right under my neck. He misses and his stick catches the bottom of it mask and flips it off. Maybe half a second later, the third guy on the left who didn’t take the first shot or the rebound, crashes the net just like the guy on the right did but half a second behind. He gets bumped by my defenseman who was trying to keep him off me, and his skate comes straight up and as I’m turning my face left so that my face doesn’t hit the ice, his skate comes right across my face. Blade comes down on the bridge of my nose and drags diagonally up in between my eyes and then above my right eyebrow. I hardly even felt a thing. Didn’t even realize I had been cut until I got up and a bunch of people around me on both teams and a ref were like oh shit are you ok you’re bleeding. And then I felt something dripping down my face and reached up and it was pouring out blood. Dont ask me why, probably because I’m a goalie so I’m crazy, but I just said yeah I’m fine, wiped my jersey over my cut, picked up some snow from the ice and just held it on the cut for a minute until the bleeding pretty much stopped. Then put my helmet back on and played the rest of the game, I think it was only like a minute into the second period too. And afterwards I questioned why not only my coach but the reffs even let me stay in and continue to play when it was still slightly bleeding. I mean this was youth hockey still lol. I mean I wanted to stay in, but as a ref myself, no shot I’d be letting a kid stay in the game while he’s still bleeding without getting some medical attention first. The hot sisters of the kids we were playing against that were standing behind my goal sure looked impressed that I just sucked that up though I remember that and feeling like a badass for a second lol. At least until a minute or so later when my sweat starting finding its way into the cut. And that shit hurt like a bitch lol

The hockey player who cut and unfortunately killed Adam Johnson is getting charged with manslaughter

Adam have you’ve seen the Vader video of when he popped his entire eye back in?

Neck guards, and full face helmets need to be mandatory

Wonder if the Clint Malarchuk incident will be in here

The NHL doesn’t have neck guards because they don’t follow USA hockey rules which is I believe high school or college and below and they require players to wear neck guards

Concussions can be career ending. Concussions has caused many problems with people's personal life, not just their sport careers. There was an incident or so that it turned fatal( only speculating since ive not been able to keep track of all of them). It was only these past several recent years up to now that we took Concussions very seriously.

Last one was just bad form for blocking a shot. Shin pads is where you want to go. Diving like that is a bad play.

The punch from behind from Bertuzzi was career ending for Moore and Bertuzzi was criminally charged in Canada and never played game of professional hockey again

@ramirer9561

11 күн бұрын

Bertuzzi played for another decade

Now you know why Todd Bertuzzi is hated so much

One of the Oilers players got stepped on you could see his bone

First one He could’ve not stopped the puck at all it didn’t end his career he came back and score twice

Bert got the pass to hit moore

Let's hope none of these happen to me

Watch Dylan Larkin’s last hit he took vs Ottawa

Not much to do about that first Slapshot to the head Player's are slowly using it less and less.

hard to watch went to high school with Brian he is a great guy bad way to end career

Conner bedard fractured his jaw

A lot of thes werent the fisrt concussion of their career.. after too many you can't come back

I play hockey and its not as bad it looks