わたしは椎名林檎は日本でも稀有なアーティストだと考えています。彼女が作り出す独特な音楽、歌詞を楽しんで貰えたら嬉しい。また、いまのadoと同じ年代の頃に椎名林檎が歌った歌舞伎町の女王を聞いてください

Shiina Ringo has continued to be Japan's queen of music since the late '90s. If you were to survey Japanese singers and musicians, it's likely that everyone has, at least once, expressed admiration for her or her band, Tokyo Incidents.

She is the singer whom ADO respects the most

What's amazing about her is her ability to self-produce, not only creating the sounds and lyrics of the songs, but also the composition of the band members and the stage direction, all based on her own ideas. For this reason, she is respected not only by the general public but also by people in the entertainment and music worlds. Her unique worldview, reflected in her singing voice, lyrics, and appearance, still fascinates many Japanese people. I feel that if she had been willing to expand overseas, she would have become a little more well-known overseas.

@chicken-samurai8787

8 ай бұрын

I think she is difficult to hear because she is sick She can't ride on air plane

Thank you for listening to and comparing "Crime and Punishment", "Ado" and "Ringo Shiina". Apparently, he found out that the "Ado version" was not the original, and that's how he learned of the existence of "Ringo Shiina", but he is very happy that he found "Ringo Shiina". Both "Ringo Shiina" and "Ado" are the best artists, but I worship them as "Ringo Shiina = Queen" and "Ado = Princess." Thank you for your reaction.

@nelzyr

3 ай бұрын

Thats actually nice lol, Sheena Ringo as the Queen and Ado as the princess

As a Japanese person who has known her since her first album, I can't even imagine someone comparing her to Ado. She is the mother of recent Japanese pop music, and Ado is one of her progeny. I remember being shocked when her first album came out, as a Japanese female musician of the same age, 25 years ago. It was fascinating to see your reaction from a new perspective. Thanks.

私は椎名林檎のデビュー曲からのファンです。 あなたが言った通り椎名林檎は自然体でこの曲を歌っており、Adoはオリジナル盤に近づけ更にAdoらしさを付け加えて歌ってると思います。 椎名林檎のパフォーマンスは彼女の性格、曲にしっかりとはまっていて視覚からのメッセージも受ける事が出来ます。最高のアーティストの1人だと思います。 もちろんAdoもその1人です！ 次の動画も楽しみにしてます😊

Whilst this is one of the definitive filmed versions of this song, it's also a song that's rarely performed by Shiina exactly the same way twice. This performance is from 15yrs after she first recorded it for her 2nd album and is a noticeably jazzier arrangement than the original studio version, which also had an slightly more aggressive & desperate sounding vocal take. In the first portion of her solo career there was a wild almost dangerous energy to both her gigs and her image. As you kinda noticed, often Shiina likes to inhabit roles/characters when singing and includes that as part of her portraying the lyrics of songs, the majority of her actions on stage are very deliberate and often self-choreographed. Crime & Punishment whilst great barely scratches the surface of her overall musical range TBH, she's a musical chameleon in the best sense of the word, also a competent multi-instrumentalist and since 2003 has been the frontwoman of a killer art-rock band full of S-Tier musicians called Tokyo Jihen/Tokyo Incidents. This show happened in the 2nd phase of her solo career and was in the middle of Tokyo Jihen going on a literal eight year gigging hiatus (Feb 29th 2012-Feb 29th 2020).

you should not judge her singing just by watching only one live video. ringo tends to change the music arrangements and the way she sings on each show ... also her face changes. many people are still confused which is her real face.

Sheena Ringo is an amazing artist, and extremly versatile in her styles. It's sad she isn't known more in the west. And yes, I also think Sheena Ringo sounds more natural here than Ado (but her version is cool too).

Thanks for the great reaction. I love RIngo's version since years ago. This live performance has been already a legendary when Ado covered it. I didn't expect anyone can exceed Ringo's performance but Ado blew me. It's really difficult to choose one song to a deserted island...today, my feeling is Ringo, but tomorrow I might choose Ado.

Ado has boldly taken up the challenge and opened up another new world. Sheena Ringo has great depth to complete the world of this song, and this is how I feel about it.I give the biggest applause to these two talented singers 👏👏 I highly recommend "W●RK" by Millennium Parade & Sheena Ringo. And please get to another rock band "King Gnu" led by Millennium Parade's leader, Daiki Tsuneda, as soon as possible 🎵🎵

@myos1806

7 ай бұрын

椎名林檎の　長く短い祭りライブバージョン最高ですよ！

オリジナルのMVも観てほしいな

Shiina is simply, a legend... one of the few

やったー！椎名林檎のリアクションありがとうございます✨丁寧な解説がまた嬉しかったです😆

@RoninMann

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Sheena worked on ADO's Crime & Punishment cover and was very happy about it. Sheena has so many many good songs since the 90s and is a musical role model for many Japanese women, like Miku Kobato from Band Maid. I love both versions.

@realdocloco

7 ай бұрын

She wrote a lot for other singers too - including Ado btw.

@maidthehormone

7 ай бұрын

@@realdocloco yep, i know😁

Thank you SO MUCH for reacting to Shiina Ringo. I've been in love with her music since I was in college 20 years ago (that hurts to say how long it's been hahaha oh well). But all that time, even though I have friends who like Japanese music, they tend to just focus on anime and video game music, and Shiina Ringo has famously never done music for anime (until ONLY RECENTLY, with Hell's Paradise; my jaw dropped when I found out!), so I've been a very lonely Shiina Ringo fan for a long, long time. I'm so glad Ado covered her song Crime and Punishment, because I know that means more people around the world will find Shiina Ringo!! 🍎🎸

@RoninMann

4 ай бұрын

I’m definitely overdue to check out more of her songs. I remember getting a little lost looking into her catalogue. Any suggestions?

@minako134

4 ай бұрын

@@RoninMann Her two breakout hit albums from the late 90s/early 00s were Muzai Moratorium and Shousai Strip, nearly every track is a classic that most music nerds in Japan can sing from memory. She also made a band called Tokyo Incidents, I loved their first album Kyoiku ("Education"). Even as a fan of over 20 years I too get overwhelmed by how much music she's made that I'm STILL getting caught up on....

Ado has an amazing and unique voice and has a great future ahead of her. Shiina Ringo's song catalogue is something else entirely. Like, I adore Sir Ian McKellen, but this is Miss Shakespeare you're talking about. The fact that on top of writing and arranging and producing tons of quality music like the best in the world (male or female, Japanese or foreign), she can also perform at this level, to me is kind of a miracle

Love both performers. Ado can make you burn with this... Sheena will make you melt first. Sheena (or Shiina) Ringo celebrated her 25th Anniversary Tour this year.

both versions are great.. sheenas version especially this particular live performance to me hold so much more emotion is why i prefer it.. but ados version is still spectacular and who knows maybe in another 10-15 years Ado will be mature enough to add that emotion as well as her talent into a song like this just as much

Sí, para quienes seguimos hace años la carrera de Shiina Ringo obviamente preferiremos la versión original y lo más interesante es cómo ella ha logrado apropiarse de la canción de maneras diferentes en los años que la ha cantado. La versión de ADO es chévere y muy interesante, no es en mi opinión una mala versión pero tomando en cuenta que esta canción salió en el 2000 cuando todavía había mucha experimentación en el Jpop y en un contexto de explosión de la cultura japonesa hacia occidente, tiene mucho más peso la versión original con esa Shiina Ringo rompiendo esquemas y siendo admirada hasta por artistas internacionales que la estiman como una influencia. ADO ha revivido esa admiración por Shiina Ringo y con algo más de atrevimiento podría darle al Jpop un renacimiento que en su momento dió Shiina en una época donde el Kpop y las fórmulas de industria dominan sin proponer algo nuevo. De pronto desde las mismas Atarashii Gakko y ADO estemos viendo eso.

椎名林檎はキャリア多分30年だったような🤔この歌自体初期時代ですねまあ今も第一線でやってますよねAdoさん21歳なので林檎さんのキャリアの方が年上ですよすごいよねAdoさんも大好きですが椎名林檎さんも大好きですね😊

@RoninMann

8 ай бұрын

Wow! Ringo-san definitely sounds like a well versed and experienced musician. Ado did a great job taking on a huge task.

Your opinion is great♪ However, for ADO to cover such a difficult song, she has to overcome the high hurdles of making technical efforts and finishing it in her own way while paying respect to the original! The fact that ADO was allowed to cover this song is amazing in itself ❤️😊

@RoninMann

8 ай бұрын

Ado is a very bold artist and I think she did an amazing job. I agree with everything you said.

もしかしたら単純な歌唱力で言えばADOの方が上なのかもしれない。でもやはり椎名林檎の曲は椎名林檎が唄うのが一番だね。この曲で言えばあんながなり方する必要もないと感じるし。椎名林檎の持つ色気はまだADOには出せないよね。 　逆にADOの唄い方は林檎ちゃんには出来ないとも思うからADOはADOで当然素晴らしいんだけどね。　 　結論二人とも素晴らしい。

Through ado I became aware of Shiina Ringo. I think Shiina Ringo is more of a diva, in the best sense.

Ado is still young and I'm sure he will continue to grow and become a great artist, and I hope he will, but as of now Ado is not as good as Ringo.

Sheena Ringo is the singer that ADO most respects. Hatsune Miku is a god to ADO.

椎名林檎の歌は歌詞が素晴らしいのに英訳になってないのは残念ですね。しかし彼女の歌は日本語でないと深い部分まで理解できないのです。

Really happy to see you reacting to Sheena's version as well! Maybe if you have the time you can check out her other songs such as 熱愛発覚中 from the same Live! Its a complete different style and her other performances are great as well!

コンサート用にアレンジされています。オリジナルはもっとロックです。

Easily the best DIVA from Japan, breath taking live performance and songs that are soul capturing ❤

Sheena's vocals are better. I don't like how Ado kinda screams the notes.

椎名林檎をリアクションしてくれてありがとう😊彼女が居なかったら、adoも生まれてません👍

椎名林檎懐かしい・・・ここで見ると思わなかった I really love 椎名林檎's stage presence, and I see a lot of influence on Ado. When I listened to Ado for the first time, I thought she was just one of the followers of 椎名林檎 but I think Ado has pursued her originality since her debut and kept improving her styles. I still like the original version better when it comes to 罪と罰, I might be biased here because 椎名林檎 was a godess to me but yeah Ado can do pretty much anything, and I found her so fascinating so I like both singers equally. Ado is still young but she is already a promising singer and has a lot of fans overseas, and I believe she will continue to grow, I can't wait to see where goes.

highly recommend Ringo’s ‘NIPPON’ MV 😊

Shiina Ringo I listened to this Japanese singer ten years ago, but at that time I didn’t really like listening to music, and I didn’t have the convenient channels that I have now.

椎名林檎は日本の女神。 彼女は唯一無二であり彼女を超える存在は居ない。本家より先にカバーから聞くのは間違ってる。何故なら本家がどうであろうと自分が最初に聞いた方がその曲のイメージになるから。Adoは椎名林檎を崇めてるしカバー曲の時もかなり歌い方を似せてた。椎名林檎は日本の音楽界で特別な存在であり、彼女の誕生によりAdoを含む日本の多くのアーティストが彼女に影響されてる。日本が誇るこの世でもっとも美しい存在。彼女が所属する東京事変というバンドの曲を再生回数順にひたすら聞いてみて欲しい。声も歌い方も素晴らしいけど、歌詞も凄い。海外の人には伝わりにくいかもしれないけど文学的で古い言葉や日本語の複雑さや曖昧さを使いこなしながら絶妙で独特な世界観を表現してる。一つ一つの曲が高級チョコレートやワインの様に繊細で、巧妙で、複雑な作りになってる。

@gbdvdf4500

8 ай бұрын

過激なコメントだ

@flitzerps9522

8 ай бұрын

wow. that was very well written. Since Mars Ado will become the best vocal artist in human history.

@ziggystardust8604

6 ай бұрын

椎名林檎とAdoでは比較にならないよ。 椎名林檎は表現力の化け物で、音に対する感性が普通の人と違う。 デビュー当時からも驚くほど上手くなってるし。 椎名林檎名義と東京事変では全く違う歌い方をするし。 現在のAdoがそれを超えることは不可能。 ただ、この動画だけでは圧倒的に情報量が足りない。 特に「罪と罰」は林檎博08が秀逸。

@user-tm3lk5xb7s

5 ай бұрын

@@ziggystardust8604 椎名林檎は私も女神だと思ってるしAdoは私も最初うっせえわで始めて聴いた時椎名林檎感満載で特に歌手としてのAdoは面白いと思わなかったけど、若い分吸収が早く色んな方向性にも伸びて来てマルチな才能見せつけてかなりの個性や存在感出してきてると思う。 これからも伸びるだろうし、罪と罰に関して言えば私も椎名林檎の方が断然好きだけど、アーティストとしてはもう比較が難しいと思うな。 椎名林檎は日本の様々なアーティストに影響を与えてる分先駆者としてもう伝説級だけど、Adoはまた別方向の伝説級になれそうな「可能性」を秘めている 椎名林檎は類まれな作詞センスやクリエイターとしての天才的なセンス持ってるけど海外の人にはそこは評価されにくい。 Adoは「歌い手」に振り切っている分言語越えてよりグローバルにより「わかりやすい」表現力や魅力を発信する方向に伸びていってるから、海外でもかなりこれから伸びて行くと思う。

@ziggystardust8604

5 ай бұрын

@@user-tm3lk5xb7s 私も可能性が十分に秘めていると思います。 声質と歌唱力は抜群ですよね。 ただ、表現力は特筆するほどでもない。 そして音に対する感性がまだまだ未熟です。 今のAdoであれば演奏者は誰でも良いです。 一流の演奏者は必要ない。 ピアノなどのソロコンサートを聴いているようです。 それは音楽としては発展もなければ、はっきり言ってつまらない。 「歌い手」の振り切っていると仰いますが、美空ひばりさんは多くの楽器を弾くことができました。 椎名林檎も同様です。 歌を歌うなら当然演奏とのアンサンブルは欠かせない重要な要素です。 Adoはそこが未熟であり、そこを伸ばすためには様々な楽器を練習し、様々なアレンジャーと仕事をしながら学ぶ必要があります。

There is so much energy, like full blast! It is great, but for sure I need to take a second listen to fully take in this performance. I like the jazzy tone ~ (•́ ω •̀๑)

椎名林檎はAdoに全部自分の曲を歌わせたいって言ってたからね

椎名林檎の　長く短い祭りライブバージョン最高ですよ！

Oh, one more thing - please react to MORE Shiina Ringo, at least one of her studio-recorded songs, so you can get up close and personal with her vocals, her vocals are EVERYTHING!! Sadly a lot of her music videos get copyright striked, so there's only 1 you can watch on KZread, the rest are album art for the visual only: Honnou ("Instinct") - MV kzread.info/dash/bejne/d3espKqhfcadn6w.html Gips - english & spanish subtitles kzread.info/dash/bejne/fJt4tNdsfsWWqdI.html

queen

Entiendo porque Ado la admira tanto, veo mucha inspiración tomada de Shina Ringo, y yo prefiero la versión de Ado, no solamente porque la escuché primero sino porque el sentimiento que le impregna a cada palabra hace resonar la letra de una manera mas emocional, mas profunda

😀👍👍👍👍👍❤❤❤❤

曲を発表した当時と最近とではそれぞれの良さがあるなと感じる

It's so funny to come to Shiina's videos and everyone talking about someone named Ado. And I'm like, "who's Ado?!" 😂 I've been a fan of her's (and Tokyo Jihen) since the 2000's when i confused her with Anna Tsuchiya 😂😂 (because i think Shiina was the musical director for Sakuran and I thought the singer in the soundtrack was Anna). It's always the first version of a song people tend to like more. It took a while for me to like Metric's "black sheep" after originally hearing Brie Larson sing it in Scott Pilgrim, but I now prefer the original vs the soundtrack while i know people who still prefer Brie's version over the original. Same with people who argue if Dolly Parton's original "I will always love you" is better or lesser than Whitney's cover of it. Imo, both are great 💕

@user-ii1ke9ex4u

25 күн бұрын

Actually, Ado did this cover as an homage because she adores Shiina Ringo. They know each other, Shiina Ringo wrote the song "Missing" for a horror film, which Ado sang. In general, you can hear a lot of Shiina Ringo's influence in Ado.

ADO has stated that the musician she admires is Ringo Shiina. In other side, Shiina has stated that if there had been ADO at the time, she would have offered the songs she wrote to ADO instead of singing them herself.

There is also a version sung by AiNA THE END. If I post the link, it will be blocked, so search for "AiNA THE END 罪と罰" and you will find the video from 3 years ago. I also recommend "red birthmark", the 2nd season ending theme of Gundam Witches from Mercury, which she sings.

@realdocloco

7 ай бұрын

Aina is another singer strongly influenced by Sheena Ringo.

No conozco a ado, lo poco que escuché suena como dijiste, muy insegura y forzada, shiina es simplemente genial Hay un disco que hicieron tributo a ella donde rescato kiss me por kaela kimura, lejos de imitar a shiina lo adaptó a su estilo consiguiendo una versión increíble, creo que a ado le faltó eso, identidad

i love the guttural expression in ado's verison, but truly nothing will really top sheena ringo cuz GODDAMN THAT WOMAN IS AMAZING

You took the version of the already mature Shiina’s performance, but here is her video, where she performs for the first time, at 21 years old. It's different here. kzread.info/dash/bejne/loeM2Limp63emJc.htmlsi=3g0duJ7svuJSsr3t

Games of the XXXI Olympiad Flag Handover Ceremony of music produce by Ringo Shina

You have to go outside of charting music (someone like Emily Bear, perhaps) to find a more versatile female composer than Shiina Ringo. I think the best rendition of Tsumi to Batsu is probably the one from 'Electric Mole (though 'Gekokujyo Xstasy' has it with organ rather than piano, which I prefer). I recommend listening to literally anything she's penned for herself or other artists this last 25 years. The following is a pretty good example of her composition chops: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nX6XzcFyoNjdo7Q.html

Ado sings very well, but comparing Shiina Ringo and Ado is like comparing Chopin to a pianist who won the Chopin Competition.

to even compare these two is fucking wild. Ado doesn't have a single album that come close to Sheena's THIRD best album (muzai moratorium), let alone her 2nd and 3rd which are actual classics of the genre. I don't care about a strong booming voice if you're just doing eye-catching American Idol covers of songs that other people wrote and outdid you on. This song isn't meant to be yelled from the mountaintops it's supposed to be mumbled from a train station to your shitty tokyo apartment, but these youtube cover artists all just extract the power from the songs and remove any subtlety to them for those clippable moments of them using their vocal talent to impress.

@FauxieDaoJia

Ай бұрын

Saying 'youtube cover artists' about an artist with over 3 billion total views is kinda wild, even if for the most part I kinda agree with your overall sentiment (nobody is Ringo tbf).

you should listen to Shiina Ringo - A double Suicide, i found out she didn't made the song, she covered it.

@christianmunar8092

7 ай бұрын

Sheena is the original songwriter of a double suicide, so it's basically her song. She has made several songs for other artists, in fact, she has a complete album where she sings some of them, it is called Reimport Vol 2, A Double Suicide belongs to that album

Ado herself is a singer who was greatly influenced by Ringo Shiina.

Nipponと言う曲を聴いてみて下さい。日本の国家と呼ばれています😆

No offence but Ado is still a princess. Sheena is the Queen of jazz for 20+ years.

ライブじゃなくて音源聴いて欲しいなー😅

Adoから流れて来ました。 オリジナルを超える力がAdoには有ると思っていましたが、椎名林檎のパフォーマンスを観て度肝を抜かれました。

I personally prefer Ado's version) I mean both are really cool but I kind of more empathize to Ado. anyway Ado really admire her so for me it's just a bigger picture of her background.

@RoninMann

8 ай бұрын

She did an amazing job with the song! There's no wrong answer if you prefer one over the other.

もっと椎名林檎のリアクションが見たいです‼️ kzread.info/dash/bejne/dquitbOxdJW8gqw.htmlsi=vcSuCONlOy9YFTiB

ADOよりRINGOの方が100倍良い。

The top comment from ADO video speak it all. Queen Ringo version is throwing you perfume bottle, still very much a lady. Princess Ado version is chasing you with cleavers, in both hands.

@RoninMann

7 ай бұрын

That's a scary mental image of Ado haha

I profer Ado's - but its just that- a personal preference- rather than saying its 'better'. You also have to give Ringo a lot of props for writing it in the first place!

アドのバージョンの方が良い？アドも良いが、本家に勝るわけがない。まるで違う。しかも林檎は進化している！！

The name is Ado not Aydo. just saying

@RoninMann

2 ай бұрын

Don’t think I’ve ever pronounced it Aydo, but thanks.

The approach in this video is so disappointing. The era in which the song is being sung is different, and I find your intentions even unpleasant. It is really a pity.

@RoninMann

8 ай бұрын

I respectfully gave my opinion between 2 talented artists. Not sure what you find unpleasant or what you think my intention is.

Ados version is by FAR superior

@1tolightradius

4 ай бұрын

nah it's dogshit

椎名林檎に着目するとはお目が高い。日本の誇れる歌手です。

浪人マン(・∀・)ｲｲﾈ!!　Thank you for Watching "Sheena Ringo" also "Nippon" MV is SO COOL! U LIKE IT INDEED! kzread.info/dash/bejne/omGGrqVyisrQmLw.html