I just noticed while watching this vid that while they're in jail, Rimmer can briefly be seen on the bottom bunk and Lister later climbs up to the top bunk. The bunk positions never change, no matter where the crew ends up!

Johnny Vegas is a bit of a legend over here in the UK. And his 'old timey cop' is pretty much how British policemen work today if you've been approached for being naughty. Less pink though.

@BalrogsHaveWings

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely on those counts! Plus I reckon the pink cops are a parody of the Doctor Who story "The Happiness Patrol".

I don't think I've ever hear The Cat call someone an asshole before. I love it.

@Cyborcat

5 жыл бұрын

Same XD

You still did a better Job covering childs play than phelous and nostalgia critic

@josephgogan1546

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely

"Wibbely Wobbely" in a Timetravel-related episode.... I see what you did there, Red Dwarf! x3

8:44 Chris Barry could be the new Pinhead! Cenobite Rimmer FTW, "Your suffering shall be SMEGGY even in hell!"

@damimates

3 жыл бұрын

its Barrie. his last name is both cute and funny

The thing that bugged me about the episode is that the crew came across an entire ship full of live humans with a FTL drive and they act like it's no big deal. People always complain about the tacky outfits looking like a gay stereotype, but I just think it would have been better if the episode was more like Justice or Samsara where the boys either couldn't criticize each other or got severely punished for doing so.

@Harryeaster

5 жыл бұрын

Oh god. You're right. How could they not lampshade that? That would've been a bigger plotpoint in earlier seasons OO.

@Blurns

5 жыл бұрын

@@Harryeaster That's my biggest problem with the newer seasons, they get sent to Earth in Twentica, Lemons, etc. rather than trying to figure out how to fix things then get to the future they're focused on getting back to the Red Dwarf. But I think even Tikka to Ride was a little guilty of this.

@Harryeaster

5 жыл бұрын

@@Blurns To be fair, I think Lister ist the only one, that could have any emotional connections to it, but now found his peace on board of Red Dwarf. The other don't have that much of a stake in it.

@Harryeaster

5 жыл бұрын

@OffsetAirplane Maybe in this universe, humanity never died out (I'm under the assumption, that there is no canon Lister anymore and we now only see a different parallelluniverse for every new season after season IX. But that's just my headcanon)?

@gravyboat2370

2 жыл бұрын

Are you criticising this episode??🤔

I had to take a few moments to think about this episode... I've only seen it a couple of times, but that's usually enough for me to decide how I feel about it. But there's something about this episode that... Honestly I still can't make up my mind about whether I like it or not. It may simply be because I love the show so much that I really want it to win, even when it clearly isn't. Therefore I always try to focus on the positive rather then the negative aspects... Oh well, let's just say I enjoyed "Lieutenant Asshole" and Rimmer attempting another Space Core Directive "Kryten shut up" and leave it at that. Nicely covered as always.

Craig Charles lives in Manchester now so his accent will fade haha and Johnny Vegas is a hilarious comedian 😂

This one had great potential and honestly I love your idea to make them all a ship of Listers. That would've been much more interesting. I think the thinking with not making it subtle was purely because most of the time, at least from what I've noticed, people who don't like criticism generally can't see a moral in a story unless it's forcibly pointed out to them. Otherwise it's just dismissed or just not seen at all. They'd say the crew of the ship were just being arrogant and that criticism is still bad. Again, good idea. Just poorly excecuted. Or maybe that's what it was going for. You're supposed to openly criticise the episode! Mind blowing!!

@astralwyrm3787

3 ай бұрын

I think it's less that they can't see the moral of the story and more that they unconciously can never accept the moral of the story applies to both sides equally. Their strongly held ideals make their side's transgressions less of a big deal because they are team good and the other side is team bad. So the major culprits / most assured they are in the right in the subject need to be pointed out a bit less subtly. The best place to do this is in a comedy like this where ridicule is thrown around in all directions.

A wibbly wobbly wave...DR Who crossover anyone? No? Just me? Ok then...

@TheKaiTetley

5 жыл бұрын

Ashuraman. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey? Since when did we start talking like children?

Johnny Vegas once performed a tearjerking poem about a drunkard being thrown out of a bar after last call. "Last Call" Ask not for whom that bell doth toll As wordy barmaid's eyes do roll And landlord with an earnest shout Calls time on drinks and ushers out The dutiful sup up and leave But he's a last card up his sleeve With feet like land-locked deep-sea diver Shuffles barwards with a fiver He begs the lass for just one more "And one yourself, just make it right" He promises to drink it quick Yet deep down knows he's feeling sick Not from stout or bags of scratchings More from questions booze keeps asking "What happened to the happy me?" "I think... no, hang on, need to pee" In the bog, the poet sways Poised to ponder fonder days Before the time of cheap warm cider Eyes of wonder opening wider Now they narrow, tired of fun As fart turns wet and burns the bum Yet rueing smile pops in his head Til urine runs down inside leg And thus the landlord shows him out The child inside is crying out "I was not meant for such sweet sorrow" But opts instead for "See you tomorrow" Thou stout soak, sick stained, feckless soul Is what for, not whom, that bell did toll

This is literally what the world is turning into in 2021

@Cyborcat

2 жыл бұрын

Only according to conservative talking heads and homophobes.

@fromthecheapseats7126

Жыл бұрын

Are you the kind of liberal who believes that all conservatives are bigots? I try to just focus on enjoying the commentary of a fellow Red Dwarf fan, but if you hold people like me in contempt, I would like to know up front.

@gravyboat2370

Жыл бұрын

@@fromthecheapseats7126 who you saying this too ?

@gravyboat2370

Жыл бұрын

@@Cyborcat what makes you think that, that guy is assumed to be gay ? It doesn't come across that way. Just terrible clothes.

@fromthecheapseats7126

Жыл бұрын

@@gravyboat2370 Cyborcat. I agree with you.

I haven't seen this episode and after this, I might just not bother, at least for now. It kinda feels like Series 7 Doug Naylor wrote this lol Fortunately, the next 3 episodes are much better.

@marthastubbs8321

4 жыл бұрын

Thank god for mechocracy m Corp and Skipper saving the series

Crit Cop and the Tut-er...lol, know there is a show I'd love to watch

@Cyborcat

5 жыл бұрын

What wacky shenanigans will they get up to this week?

@bradwolf07

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cyborcat tune in to find out, only here at the BBC ;)

You can’t learn without criticism. I’d just blow the ship up

The only praise i give this episode is the space core directive joke followed by kryten shut up

I never criticize anyone I give honest observations and if you suck well that's your own fault. So in that tradition great review as always.

The space suits are reminiscent of the space suits from space 1999 an older British sci-fi show

The A-Z of Red Dwarf is available KZread.

*halfway through the video* Hmmmm..... I don't think I'm 100% sure yet if Dena liked this episode or not! Maybe it'll turn itself around in a moment! ....... oh dear....

i praise the dave era (series 9-12) a lot but theres no praising this one

@marthastubbs8321

4 жыл бұрын

I think the Dave era has some brilliant stuff But this was shite

Me and my Nephew Ronnie went on a Red Dwarf Marathon. And When he wasn’t looking I skipped this episode. Where’s my Best Uncle Award Dammit!?

1970s bbc. Jimmy savile. Dark dark joke and deserves notice for calling out the bbc covering that up

@Cyborcat

2 жыл бұрын

It's been awhile since I've seen this episode, what part are you talking about?

Although the script trips over itself a bit in how heavyhanded it is, that's part of the outlandish fun to me. I love Timewave. It's so 'fabulous, darling'. Maybe they shouldn't have made two characters be in pink though. It gives the message that pink is really beyond the pale for a man. Yet many gents clothing shops sell ties with pink in them. It was a very fashionable colour for men once (and light blue was very fashionable for girls).

This episode reminds me of Doctor Who The Happiness Patrol. Where people had to be happy and wear pink. The TARDIS even got painted pink as blue is a bad colour and so is blues music 🙂

@Cyborcat

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like it's probably better than this episode =P

@experi-mentalproductions5358

Жыл бұрын

@@Cyborcat It is actually really good (but in my opinion this is aswell, so you'll have to make up your own mind I suppose)

I think I like this episode far more than you (or apparently most people) did, but I won't criticize you for that. :) I enjoy any episode that features Rimmer's inner demons. That's not weird, is it? Thank you for another great commentary.

In my opinion, the only reason people call Season 12 the worst is because of this episode. The season as a whole had some great episodes and some okay episodes, but because of this episode, it sours the season as whole, which isn't really fair.

@Cyborcat

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that all sounds about right.

I don’t know if that was intentional or not, but yeah, my first thought on the episode was “are they supposed to be gay?”

I think the om song was performed by Craig Charles little brother

Not a fan of how many references and call backs this season has, to the point where they are just repeating dialogue and jokes, i.e Rimmer and Holly doing a reverse of Everybody's dead or The Talkie Toaster scene where at least half of the Toasters lines is just stock audio from white hole. Once in a while is ok, but it's done to death.

@mrdoctorgilmore

5 жыл бұрын

The space corps joke was pretty funny though

@BH-98

5 жыл бұрын

Galactic yo yo it was probably done as it’s the closest season made to the shows 30th anniversary. But still that doesn’t excuse that a lot of the references are quite forced

The episode was fun but wow your idea for how it could have gone would have been even better. I just like the idea of a ship full of Listers and him getting annoyed by them.

I think this episode's message cut a bit too close to the bone for some viewers...

@Shaunography

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely spot on

Now then... ... Timewave Vs. The Happiness Patrol. Make it so, Lt. Cyborcat.

@Cyborcat

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I don't watch Dr. Who.

Timewave makes Entangled less cringy to watch.

Personally, I loved this ep. Maybe the subtly is the where the message is being directed...

I really hope Rob Grant has actually returned. Seeing him in the BTS for that AA advert gave me hope that the glory days will be returning in full swing.

Wait...wipply worbbly time...is the doctor some were near by

More Dwarf End of video edit: Well, Red Dwarf is often itself a walking metatextual source of irony. Also, it's been discussed elsewhere that these ideas were also explored in Demolition Man...I need to re-watch that movie someday...

@BobExcalibur

4 жыл бұрын

Read "Brave New World" by Aldus Huxley first. Really improves the experience.

Simple i like the concept, the idea of Criticism without it you would not be a same person, we need criticisms to help with opinions

I think the problem with this episode was embodied by the last joke of the episode, where Lister just criticised someone for no real reason. Of course criticism is important, but only if there is a good reason for it. This episode seemed to promote criticism for criticism's own sake.

@axelolord

Жыл бұрын

I'd argue that there rather is no valid or invalid criticism. It's not about using criticism to achieve a result you want. Anything that's criticized should be able to stand it's own ground against criticism or not which is how it earns it's value. At the end they criticized the worth of the painting they were given as a reward as they should have. The painting was over-valued compared to other rewards that the captain was initially considering that would have actually been beneficial to the crew. SO to sum up I disagree it was criticism for criticism's sake. It was criticism as means of evaluation. Valid and consistent with the message.

to be honest the next episodes arent all that bad. I just felt Season 12 started quite poorly..(my opinion) and this is the last bad episode of the first 3 Mechocracy,M-Corp and Skipper i thought were all decent episodes.

@Cyborcat

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is the only episode of Season 12 I had any major issues with.

Johnny Vegas is brilliant, but you’re right he and the tutter are basically the only good things.

An interesting episode, considering the target of its scorn. And tutting is quite a serious offence in England! I haven't seen as many of the Dave-era stories as I'd like, this actually looks one of the more distinct ideas.

Not a bad episode but not that good either. In any case good coverage as usual Dena

Yeah, this episode felt a lot like a jab at PC-Culture, like somebody criticized the creators and they responded petty (which is quite ironic, considering the theme of the episode). Just shows, that the Red Dwarf - Crew is now around for quite a while. Oh well, the next one will be funnier!

@Jayfive276

5 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the jab at it, it was the ham-fisted way they did it. It comes of the back of Rob and Doug trying to get the RD movie off the ground and the american film people hating the way they would criticise things. Apparently Grant/Naylor were called "The Wave" as in "The Wave of Negativity" For whatever reason this experience mutated into a dig at something that doesn't exist - i.e. you can be incompentant at your job but never be criticised for it. Which just doesn't happen - indeed may happen MORE in the modern inter-connected social media age.

@Harryeaster

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jayfive276 Okay, that was interesting. Thank you, for that anecdote! Makes me see the episode now in a different light.

@fromthecheapseats7126

Жыл бұрын

It felt like that to me as well, which is surprising because I would have guessed the creators were closer to that ideology.

Imploding black hole? Oh shit. The maw from Starwars is loose

Urgh, this episode. It’s baaaad. There’s a good theme in there to explore, since we do have a culture full of sensitivity, BUT to have it portrayed as a ship full of fay, camp stereotypes is just . . . dumb! From my experience, people who like camp have some pretty solid fortitude when it comes to mockery. I think Cyborcat got it spot on; it would likely be a ship full of Listers aka blokes who have everything provided for them and still feel victimised

@ValVerdeBroadcasting

4 жыл бұрын

Well. Fancy seeing you here!

This episode really wasn't that bad at all really, lol in regards to complaints about the portrayal of the character who was the leader of these people then lets be honest- if you did go around dressed like him in real life you probably would receive a fair bit of criticism XD. I actually thought the episode made a few good points at times- Hell if it wasn't for criticism I’d probably still be rocking bleached blonde tips and my Ren & Stimpy T-shirts ....I’m nearly 40 by the way (!) lmao

@jimtaylor294

10 ай бұрын

*This* 🫡

Are you Criticising?

Good video dena also. Fun fact that the guy who was crit cop normally popped up in an add for PG tips tea. I remember for just that mostly. Sadly it does not pop up anymore on tv but yeah. here is a link to the ad that used to pop on tv. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4uF1rppXZzHipM.html

Good episode. If you do another clothing/costume vlog, as an FYI, the costume worn by the captain of the ship was recycled from a TV programme called Spaced, originally worn by David Walliams: kzread.info/dash/bejne/l6KCsrqYlM_QgM4.html

@Cyborcat

5 жыл бұрын

Heh, interesting.

Series X to XII has some good to great episodes. Beginning. Give and take Samsara Officer Rimmer Mechocracy M Corp Skipper All great ^ Siliconia and Lemons are decent along with some others But Timewave is SHITE

@Cyborcat

4 жыл бұрын

There are very few episodes that I just flat-out dislike, but Timewave is one of them XD

@marthastubbs8321

4 жыл бұрын

@@Cyborcat also back in the red 1 2 and 3 😬

Oh goody, the skirt guy has the pan flag on his shoulders, yeah.... With what you point out how "fun"

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This episode is the perfect working example of a concept alone not being enough to sell a TV programme. You have to stick the landing, and it failed quite spectacularly. It's a total, jumbled mess. Almost fascinatingly sloppy.

Eh. I don't know. Criticizing an episode centered around criticism? What's next? Criticizing a comment that criticizes an episode that centers around criticism... Or criticizing a comment that criticizes an episode...

@willadeefriesland5107

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I should have added that it was like one of those rare 'philosophical moments' kind of thing from Cat... Gesturing to his bowl of Kitty yummies, "Ok. If you're GOD, make this a Woman!"

Those space suits look a lot like Dan Dare's. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pmmT15p-f9fMkrg.html

The absolute worst episode of Dwarf *ever*, IMO. Even worse than "Pete" or "Krytie TV". I find it so poorly-written as to be damn near unbearable...and seriously? Cat calling that guy "Lt. Asshole"? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that felt so painfully out-of-character for him. Thank God the rest of the season was nowhere near this bad, if a little hackneyed in the episode conclusions.

@fromthecheapseats7126

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I feel like Cat would have called him “Lt. Tacky” or something else related to the way he was dressed. “Lt. Asshole” seems more like Lister insult.

@Cockatiel2007

Жыл бұрын

@@fromthecheapseats7126 "Lt. Asshole" sounds like a Lister insult, yeah, or possibly a drunk Rimmer insult...and both would sooner use other insults: Lister would sooner use "smeghead" and Rimmer would sooner call him a "goit" or such.

This episode reminds me of how woke Democrats behave in the US.

I didn't care for this one. Cat using wife's sagging tits as an insult like a 70s Jim Davidson stand up is beneath this show. That and Johnny Vegas. When classic RD had a cameo character like Timothy Spall or Jenny Agutter it never felt forced.

It's a pity this concept was wasted on an episode like this. You'd think there would be pushback on the "No criticism" rule, so maybe they could have rewritten it so that it was half pro-criticism and half anti-criticism working in separate places. The pro-criticisms could have been like Rimmer, and you could have had some great callbacks with them taking exams and blaming everyone else for how neurotic they've become, and the antis could have been like Lister, super slobbish, getting nothing done, and lazing around eating curries and drinking beer milkshakes. You could also reverse Lister and Rimmer's viewpoints for this episode too and have Lister start out complaining about Rimmer criticising him all the time and Rimmer doing a speech about how criticism is the only way to improve or something. Then they learn each other's viewpoints through seeing the pro/anti criticism crews being unable to function alone. You could have had some hilarious exchanges, natural callbacks, and maybe even some character development for Lister and Rimmer, but no. Instead we get gay jokes and "These kids and their safe spaces" instead.

My dear you should be writing plots for this show.