Requesting a video where you follow one park goer and narrate his life in the park.

@kaitek666

2 жыл бұрын

Its so dumb its good. Maybe april fools? Heh

@BruinPhD2009

2 жыл бұрын

“Is somebody watching me?”

@primes1937

2 жыл бұрын

Make a series out of it. I'd watch the sh*t out of that series.

@MrJimmysteel25

2 жыл бұрын

I did this all the time as a kid and I still do to this day. I’ll leave the game running if I’m doing something and name a brand new guest that entered the park after me and check in and see what his favorite ride is and what he’s done etc. It’s also very satisfying tracking one guest that you named after yourself explore your whole park that you built and seeing what they do. I recommend that you guys try it out, leave the game on and check back with your guest and see what they’ve done and what they are doing

@jonnnnniej

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrJimmysteel25 I always picked a guest with high tolerance of nausea, etc. Just to make sure they would go in all the cool rollercoasters! :D

I love lift hills between exit/entrance. Makes ride shorter so guests can spend money elsewhere. It's also alot of fun to design imo.

@FerreTrip

2 жыл бұрын

I try to design all my water slides like this because it's more realistic, not just efficient.

@3dgamerman

2 жыл бұрын

exactly what I was gonna say. I usually hide the chain lift section underground.

@LoserHands

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I love to do this too! Y'all are right that it's like something you'd see in a real park, isn't it??

@OrangeSodaKing

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t believe I never thought to do this. I need to do this from now on

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

Plus it's really the right thing to do, saving them all that boredom. I want my guests to feel that water is a place where I will take care of them :D

I'm always impressed at the water's ability to remain calm at a complete 45 degree angle like that.

@sfisher923

2 жыл бұрын

Same since in IRL it would rushing down the drop (Noticed this on a Log Flume since they have the ~45 degree drop IRL which isn't in RCT2 and said flume was built in the Mid-1990s)

@theclaudeqc3rdone290

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, the gentle slope that most ride have is a 25 degree one, and the steep is 60

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

The water knows that if it behaves itself, it will get fed offerings of tasty peeps :P

Splash boats are basically log flumes on steroids. That capacity per boat is absurd, and rightly so. While it is limited in compactness, the fact you can get such high excitement so easily makes it a very good option for parks.

@reillywalker195

2 жыл бұрын

Its low to medium intensity also maximizes the number of guests willing to get on it in most parks and ensures the ride is useful in parks where guests have low intensity preferences.

3:50 My guess is that the huge number of guests produce such a high gravitation that they bend time. So for them it looks like a 50s ride but for those outside it appears to be a 2m 22s ride.

@cromanticheer

2 жыл бұрын

"This little maneuver is gonna cost us 2m 22s!"

Two additions: - OpenRCT2 also allows building On-Ride Photo sections on this ride. - The maximum of 31 boats only applies to vanilla RCT2 and RCT Classic. OpenRCT2’s maximum is 255.

@musickid43

2 жыл бұрын

I now need to see a long line of boats that goes all the way back to the station.

@supersonicbros23

2 жыл бұрын

Now I feel obliged to try and build a huge ride that supports that many.

By combining the Mobius design with the elevated entrance station trick you can achieve some crazy throughput. I've got a saved splash boats design which is basically just the smallest possible splash boats that is both a Mobius track and has the entrance station at the top of the lift hill and I've seen it get up to 7000+ guests per hour

@bwburkeGaming

2 жыл бұрын

Link please?

@LoserHands

2 жыл бұрын

@@bwburkeGaming I've seen the same numbers; I often see 8300 or higher per hour, for a simple drop with several extra tiles to make the ride diegetic. I go ~£4 tickets never higher than 5 bucks...and still the stats report like £23000 an hour. Absolutely wild. More money that I can't burn it all building big coasters. I like your idea and it should be better than any of the synchronized A-to-B rides I've made, because then both 'tracks' have interchangeable boats..! Maybe..?

@cromanticheer

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome! I'll have to try that

In RCT1, this ride was introduced in the Corkscrew Follies/Added Attractions pack as the River Ride. Its intended use was twofold: to be a gentle ride like the efficient design with no steep drops, or to be a thrill ride with steep drops. Loopy Landscapes later introduced the River Rafts (known then as the Raft Ride) as a purely gentle ride with no drops at all. Every tracked ride in RCT1 has its capacity dictated by its station length. Thus, the River Ride maxes out with 9 boats for a capacity of 144 guests-the most of any one ride in the game. The Log Flume, River Rapids, and River Ride in RCT1 can also get the dreaded *station brakes failure* breakdown, so you need to ensure boats slow down sufficiently between the last drop and the station to stay safe.

@MechWarrior894

2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to have to replay the original because I thought I saw a level with splash boats

@ext93

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechWarrior894 I can confirm that it was called "River Ride" in Rct1

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

The expansion pack I remember getting was called "Loopy Landscapes & Corkscrew Follies." I never heard of Added Attractions until seeing people around here refer to it. I wonder if it was marketed differently in different regions.

@reillywalker195

2 жыл бұрын

@@jefffinkbonner9551 The expansion pack we call Corkscrew Follies in North America is called Added Attractions in the rest of the world.

I used the splash boats all the time as a kid because they always had the highest numbers. I was always confused why my other rides had such low stats when they went so fast and had so many loop de loops!

Something not mentioned (I don't think), shared with log flumes and river rapids is that the boats lose speed a *lot* more quickly on flat track than uphill or downhill sections. As such the mini bunny hills on the medium design don't just boost the stats through extra drops, but also by making the ride faster. If you're making a *long* Splash boats (or log flume), and you're not worried about the upfront cost, remember to have hills instead of straight sections (where the boats don't slow down to lift speed) and when straight track is needed (e.g, turns), try to keep it high up (like you would for mid course brake runs).

@mopsnuf

2 жыл бұрын

Super interesting!

I think why it is 55 seconds in the time by rct2, is because the ride actually gose at 0kmph/0mph, the stats windows seem to not reconise the time going up anymore, I think it's the same reason why we can exploit stuff in the car ride, as they stop calculating time when at 0kmph/0mph I did a ride sometime ago and saw it taked 50ish seconds, while it actually take like 2 minutes, it take a 0kmph/0mph lift hill in vertical, so it actually gose backwards, but nonetheless it only calculate whenever the speed is at least 1kmph/1mph, I think that's why it didn't follow the real time rule here.

The clip of "a boat slamming into another boat" made me giggle like nothing else and I was incredibly glad to hover over the playback bar and see that it was vastly more replayed than any other moment of the video

I often use splash boats as a transport ride. Higher stats, debatably faster travel, higher capacity. Small parks generally ill do an entrance front and back of the park, as they get bigger i'll distribute more stops between them. Love the vid, great touch on the topic, i never realized before they don't have g calculation, I'll have to get a bit more wild with my designs.

Woah!! I didn't know you could do two different stations like at 4:36 -- that's wicked cool. That opens up a ton of design space actually, depending on how many different ride types you can do that with... Also really clever to use it to reduce lift times. I love this channel so much, it combines my love of nerding out on early gaming with computer programming.

@kABUSE1

2 жыл бұрын

You can do that with all ride types that support mulitple stations as far I remember, maybe even since RTC1, but definitely in RCT2. Edit 1: Oh wait, I think Monorail Cycles are an exception, as I think they don't work without a peep. Edit 2: I just looked into it: it even works for Monorail Cycles. In this specific configuration the bike will travers empty, lmao.

@Wiimeiser

2 жыл бұрын

IIRC there's a prebuilt ride in RCT3 that has a top station with just an entrance, though I think the bottom one also has an entrance.

@TheWatchernator

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wiimeiser lol RCT3 doesn't exists

@LoserHands

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wiimeiser I found a Steel Spinning Mouse or maybe a Steel Mouse in my pre-made designs called "Mutant Mouse", which uses separate stations for its entry & exit. I have openrct2 but I'm not sure it matters, bc apparently it's located in RCT2's game files...at least from GoG. Wonder if it was always there, for my past kid self to discover so long ago??? Because I'm hella enjoying the feature now!!

Imagine if IRL splashboat track designs looked like these, with all the hills and turns. At least, ignoring the tracks where the boats would clearly go into orbit.

I never knew Splash Boats were so efficient rides. All I thought was: "That lift hill is going to take forever, and I just can't keep looking at it!", so I've never built any of them so far.

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

Same! I never got around to these because I had already been turned off to their general idea with the log flume. I would see that same damned slow roller lift hill and go NOPE! But they're actually kind of OP, to be honest.

The reason I love this channel: you confirm all the things I wondered about with this game 25 years ago when I was 12

I played around in the RCT price calculator and discovered another thing that makes the splash boats even better: you can charge more than many other rides for the same stats. For instance, for a splash boats with 9.00/8.00/8.00 excitement/intensity/nausea, you can charge $20 for the first 40 months in RCT2 vanilla, but for an air powered vertical coaster with the same stats, you'd have to drop the price below $20 after 13 months. This is balanced out in some other ways, like splash boats being harder to get high intensity/nausea and possibly having lower throughput, but I'll bet it has a better ratio of building cost to ticket price than almost any other tracked ride.

@cranapple3367

2 жыл бұрын

Probably different stat cost weights. We saw this before with the ultra efficient air powered launch, which eats an excitement penalty but still makes a fortune thanks to weighting intensity heavily.

The level of detail for a game made by 1 man in 1999 is just incredible. If this was released today it would still be a smash hit as an indie game no doubt

1:07 You probably know this better than I would but I'm wondering if the calculation for length here isn't based on distance traveled but rather "number of track pieces," as the ride with 30 boats is using less individual track pieces as a result of the S-Bends. Might be worth looking into?

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

If you just use little hills to make a longer track instead of s-bends, you get the same result while using the same number of track pieces, so that's not the case.

@theencolony5595

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos my thought might be that the regular distance measures the distance the boats take, while the boat calculation measures the number of "squares" the track takes up (i.e a S-bend takes up 4 squares, even if the boat takes a shorter route)

@ShayyTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos I wonder if it's not properly counting gentle-level slope pieces? Only thing I can think of.

@BigDBrian

2 жыл бұрын

@@theencolony5595 you could test this fairly easily as turns take up a lot of squares

Those are some absolutely wild properties, I would never have guessed that this was the ride that gives the maximum excitement without using questionable exploits. Could have made a whole video just about that ride and/or the idea of maximizing excitement in general. (Might still be a good idea, actually.)

The boat magically coming to an abrupt halt at the station after speeding down the hill at 200+ km was the funniest thing I've seen all day.

I love building the splash boats as a guest sponge. Unfortunately guests starting to complain about too long ride times a lot. For that reason I try to keep the ride time below 5 min, which results in a fairly short track, that cannot hold the full capacity of 31 boats.

@bigayysfromspace2804

2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried building a mobius track?

@PianoKwanMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigayysfromspace2804 I imagine you could do 4 stations mobius, but could they all be synchronised?

@edopronk1303

2 жыл бұрын

The exit before the lift hill and the entrance at the top helps with this. It shortens the ride time considerable and still has the 31 boats.

@Brainsucker92

2 жыл бұрын

@@edopronk1303 Yes indeed, that's a great solution. Yesterday I tested a few designs myself and got a decent one with a (total) ride time of 5:56 min. It can hold 29 boats and guests only complain when there's a breakdown.

@jefffinkbonner9551

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if entertainers could ride with guests to help keep them happy and sedated on long rides. "I want to get off Mr. Bone's Wild R- Oh, look! A panda man! hahaha!"

They’re fun to build and I had no idea that they can’t crash, but man, they’re tough to build in small spaces.

@reillywalker195

2 жыл бұрын

The only water rides good for small spaces are the Boat Hire, Jet Skis, Log Flume, and Water Coaster. The others all either have higher stat requirements or lack small turns.

My favorite non-coaster ride in scenarios that need a certain number of guests. You can pack so many people onto the ride and in the queue and keep them all happy.

As a coaster enthusiast rather than a gamer every layout in this video kills me inside. No run-outs, Neck breaking turns and impossible roller hills! But if the game allows it why not I guess.

@nthgth

2 жыл бұрын

There are other channels which emphasize realism for RCT2. Often they have to use exploits and cheats to achieve greater realism

This would be one of the best rides in the game if the lift hill was faster

@electrollama2127

2 жыл бұрын

If you wanted to cheat, you could use "allow chain lift on all track pieces," use chains on upward track pieces (and increase the chain lift speed past the max value with cheats if you want).

@ruukinen

2 жыл бұрын

Just do like he said and hide the lift part between entrance and exit so it doesn't cause boredom for guests.

I never realised how overpowered the Splash Boats are even with its limited elements.

It can skip large portions of the slow lifts by building them right after the previous drop as the boat carries over the speed upwards the same as it would slow down on a flat section. making a big multi drop splash boat a lot quicker than it looks.

I love splash boats and build them in almost every park they're available. The only problem is that I like to try and make my parks look nice and man can splash boats be ugly and bulky. It's a challenge to get them to look nice. But the payoff to that effort is very nice. They make bank and keep guests off my paths, a win-win

Never stops to amaze me how much detail this old game holds. Must have been a love project for Chris. Great video as always Marcel, thank you!

Glad they used the G-force free boats so those 200kph instant stops aren't an issue.

There is also the awesome perk that you can climb a lift hill quickly by placing it just after a drop. This was shown several times throughout the video and explained pretty heavily through subtext and visual demonstration alone.

Fascinating. Always thought this ride was a bit useless but now I see its actually not bad. Love to see the mine train coaster next, my personal fave

@E-102_Gamma

2 жыл бұрын

watch?v=Kp6kk-13KX8 You mean this one?

@LtBarclay

2 жыл бұрын

@@E-102_Gamma link doesn't work. Have seen the mine RIDE one with the powered cars ifnthats what you linked. I meant the mine train coaster

@E-102_Gamma

2 жыл бұрын

@@LtBarclay ...Apparently just _mentioning_ links was enough to get my comment deleted. Second time's the charm, perhaps? As I haven't actually played any of the RCT games myself (I'm here for Marcel's soothing voice, good presentation skills, and dry humor), I wasn't aware that the "mine ride" and "mine train coaster" were two separate rides. Pardon me.

@LtBarclay

2 жыл бұрын

@@E-102_Gamma that's okay.. I love his delivery as well. He could read a shopping list and it would grab your attention lol

Splash boats are secretly a powered ride like the miniature railway.

The fact that they can't fly outside of the track makes them truly exceptional.

thanks so much marcel for bringing me back to rct. i binged this game for near to eternity as a kid on my old dad's computer, but since i got a own, new one and my dad too, the old games stayed on the old pc in the attic. but then i stumbled across your channel and heard about openRCT and started anew, and now im able to build all the parks i dreamt of as a kid and wasn't really able to build them because i was not that good in the game! keep up your cool work, everytime there's a new upload from you i instantly gotta watch it.

Have been playing RTC for years and did not know any of this information, thank you very much for the video!

If you build them 2/3 underground, they are also good rain shelters, i.e. peeps still go in them if it rains. And they can handle a lot, so are great rain 'sponges' for peeps, preventing overcrowding. They are my best earning attractions.

Always liked how useful the Splash Boats was in the game, And due to the way the small stations are they are easier to build with other rides around it.

Yesssss, splash boats are one of my favorites. Great video man!!

I think the low drop height requirement is because of rides like Pirates of the Caribbean, which is technically a splash boat ride but is focused more on visual scenes like a dark ride rather than drops.

Im glad you brought up having the exit be down the lift, i always would do that design when i was a kid!

That Möbius one is really satisfying to look at.

Absolutely love this ride.

'Guest storage', I love it. I wonder if real theme parks use that term!

I genuinely think your videos for thrill and water rides have helped me more than your videos about rollercoasters. I honestly know the ups and downs of the rollercoasters and their general quirks, but these sorts of rides have always been my weak point because I forget they even exist sometimes. Thank you for making this video.

I love the splash boats. The tip about having the exit before the lift hill to the entrance is nice!

I've watched all your videos thus far, but this has been the best so far. I'm not sure why, but fantastic overview and dive into this ride type.

I've never had the urge to play this game and yet I watch this channel almost religiously. I can't explain it.

Great work, as always!

Thanks Marcel, doin the Lord's work with this channel

I’m in New York for the first time. In a waiting room. And this video is keeping me company 😅👍👍

You should do a ride throughput optimization guide. There's a bunch of counterintuative things - like putting stations at the _top_ of the ride with an immediate drop, and the lift hill at the end - that can seriously help throughput. This especially applies to low-friction rides, but even for splash boats can make a difference.

Splash boats are so cool. And thanks for teaching us about the split station! Such a good idea to eliminate the primary lift hill.

You forgot one point (unless I missed it): Put the entrance on the SECOND tile for the splash boats because they get on from the front to the back, so the back is where the last guests will go. There are two more designs I would add that I use all the time: 1. Put a double station. Climb to the max height. Two turns. Steep drop. Photo segment. Straight segments. Turn to station. 2. Put a second station in the design from number one and mirror it (basically, take off the turns and mirror it). This is a big moneymaker and very cheap. If you have hills or want to build a tall path, it is a good idea to put the entrance at the top and the exit at the bottom of the lift hill. You can also experiment with bouncy falls or an extra little hill at the end.

I never considered making a mobius design for these, but you certainly woke me up on that idea!

The massive drop and tiny bumps design was hilarious SuperVinlin

Excellent Video, thx! Have my thumb 👍

Really appreciate that I can watch your videos and don't have to jump on the volume button because the editor decided to fit in some ~wacky~ sound effect.

And here's me always building long stations. Well not any more! Thanks Marcel!

Easily one of the best videos in this series

Love this thikk ride, it's like a log flume taken to the max!

This was one of my favorite rides to buold when i was younger

I noticed empty log flume boats can easily catch full boats on the lift hill as well in case anyone is wondering if this is unique in this. However, because of it's capacity the splash boats are probably more drastic.

Another efficient Splash Boats Design: Take the 17 excitement ride only with 4 station platforms (one station tile, then one regular straight tile)x4 This way the first 3 stations go for 1 tile and then immediately drop the guests off the ride and you can charge the maximum for the ride. You can also block off the final station so no guests waste their time actually riding the ride.

I am almost convinced to start rct1 again. Played it a lot back in the day and bound me for hours at once

I liked this video and learned something new, so I'm considering giving this video a like.

That water looks very pretty. You wouldn't expect that on a ride.

The first ever ride that I got 10.00+ Excitement on LONG before I built my first 10.00+ Excitement which happened in 2014 iirc. I pulled this off back before I was in high school (2008-2012) with this type of I'm remembering right.

Thanks for another great video. I can't wait to build one with all those little bunny hops...lol...Daremyth

No g forces and cannot crash? This channel has been a continuous "you are doing it wrong" for everything RCT related. I like that.

Nice to see The Splash Boats get some love. DL the file as i made a custom map to get 5k guest in. So now I have a way to pull more off of the paths. Oddly i made a V.D. coaster in that park with +8.28g and -3.65 that guest ride all the time. (E 6.81/ I 9.90 / N 4.21).

Cant wait for the riverrapids!

Watching the boat go over those fast bunny hills is comical

Finally, a ride that allows us to recreate Action Park as it’s designers envisioned it.

@peterprime2140

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think the Splash Boats can have a loop in it that cuts the drunk 14 year old riders with the teeth that are stuck in it.

Marcel Vos the Boss!

Good stuff sir

0:01 you have a tiger entertainer lost in the woods there.

You know, I've played this game since I was 11, over 20 years ago, and I wrote off splash boats a long time ago because they seemed boring and I didn't realize the capacity was so high. But now it's like I've got a whole new expansion of RCT to play because I've been so negligent of the water rides. That's not what I expected from this video, but I'm very pleased!

Chris Sawyer musta just LOVED splash boats irl

I love using splash boats! They basically print money & keep guests off paths. Win-win.

Gotta love how easy it is to recognise a fellow Dutch boi

That fact that heavy boats travel faster than empty boats and filled boats can have different weight of guests, blows my mind for a game so old 🤣 that’s some detail

Ah yes the Gigachad of water rides, always need one for a hot climate scenario

Guest storage, I like that.

And here i was expecting to see a comparison of the same design with the entrance at the top of the lift vs. at the bottom to show how much of a difference this exactly makes :D

Can the OpenRCT2 devs add a feature to change the lift speed for water rides in a future update?

4:00 Huh, I very often build the entry on the top, especially in hilly parks. I never realized why since I don't do this with rollercoasters. I do this with almost every log flume. I guess I subconsciously noticed this.

My money maker right here.

Me watching this video is a MASSIVE: NO WAY DUDE! I used to hate this ride since this video. THANK YOU.

I do two synchronized Splash Boats with one entrance station*, huge drop, then exit stations. The return lift is kinda bulky, and I'm sure I'm massively squandering the throughput. But it's cool seeing a simple 10sec drop net like 5 excitement lol. Default names are Splash Daddy / Splash Mommy. *edit: one entrance station _each_

I remember 12 year old me being very frustrated I couldn't kill people on this ride after I heard in the news a splash ride in a nearby park led to some people being injured.... What was wrong with me?

@roberthandle

2 жыл бұрын

lol, now you know the reason.

@martijn9568

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not even surprised

2:12 RMC Hybrid Coaster: allow me to introduce myself.

4:28 imagine going uphill and all of a sudden you see a formula1 Boat passing by, hahaha Gotta rethink life choices now

With the final design, surely it would be beneficial to have the final drop earlier on, so that the boats don't just slam into the station as then the average speed will be much higher as a lot of the ride is just slow straight tracks

The physics in this game are surprisingly deep, but also very silly.

Kind of surprised that it doesn’t crash, but then again, it’s just the big brother of the log flume

Someone probably already posted this, but, the boat ride seems partially based on Disney Boat rides which often have a small (13 foot or so) drop. Hence that specific requirement.

Next time I go to Six Flags, I'm going to start classifying rides as "guest storage".