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@hassaanrana2431

4 жыл бұрын

Dude, this is awesome. I hope you look into more retro games. If you are going to, then definitely check this out www.doomworld.com/25years/the-roots-of-doom-mapping/index/

@HarveeTV

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Sawyer lives in my village and helped in my old primary school he's a really nice guy!

@CONGTHEGUERILLA

4 жыл бұрын

U kinda look like nathan fielder w a beard

@screenteasing

4 жыл бұрын

Some Pilots withstand more than 10G for some time with the right breathing and muscle contractions. So I doubt the usefulness of that coaster unless it is longer, or harder.

@alexbristol4413

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Jacob, where is the quote about the yellow birds from? I really like it and just wanna quote whoever it was, especially if it was you! :D

Mr bones wild ride is exactly the kind of dumb nonsense that makes life worth living.

@pivotman243

4 жыл бұрын

watch the DNSL video it does it a great justice

@jounalehtio2317

4 жыл бұрын

Absurdity of humanity is truly a thing of wonder.

@BierBart12

4 жыл бұрын

I remember watching someone build a train track from a planet to the moon in Space Engineers. It had the same chaotic energy.

@saml1939

4 жыл бұрын

wrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrongwrong you must solve the riddle.

@peterthompson8380

4 жыл бұрын

rttrdtrttutsddtrdtddztdtrdturtttt5

Obsessed with the dissonance I felt with “oh cool, Rollercoaster Tycoon!” And then “Warning! Consensual euthanasia discussed!”

@valenciansun

Жыл бұрын

Isn't all euthanasia consensual? Otherwise it's just murder

@NoriMori1992

10 ай бұрын

This is why I'm not a fan of content warnings.

@mikaeus468

10 ай бұрын

@NoriMori1992 I'm the opposite. What if a loved one was euthanized? A pet, even?

@hunterkil1er342

4 ай бұрын

Bubble wrap and caution tape the world. ​@@mikaeus468

"RollerCoaster Tycoon is written in Assembly" I felt physical pain hearing that

@christopherbroms2508

3 жыл бұрын

same

@Koffiato

3 жыл бұрын

I freezed for a second there

@t.dominey4150

3 жыл бұрын

Writing a game in assembly is so much more terrifying than the idea of a killer roller coaster

@reverieWithRupam

2 жыл бұрын

I teared up hearing that

@ShiroNero94

2 жыл бұрын

I was listening to this in the background while programing and I actually got a chill down my spine.

i can’t stop laughing at the leap from “It is as if death is divorced from our cultural life, just as death rituals are in our secular and postmodern Western society. But if it is already legal, why not make it more meaningful... as a ritual adapted to the contemporary world.” to “So I made a roller coaster.”

@kittykat5090

3 жыл бұрын

when you put it like that, it makes it even funnier

@quillclock

2 жыл бұрын

a true artists if I ever heard one.

@Deenaziamazinjg14

2 жыл бұрын

This just really shows the insanity and lack of any knowledge the “player” had! Fucking pathetic

@vizthex

Жыл бұрын

for real, lmao

@karak962

Жыл бұрын

YEAH OH MY LORD

"i want to get off mr. bones wild ride" is how im feeling about the general state of human existence at this point in history

@SunflowerSpotlight

4 жыл бұрын

Accurate. 😂😭

@Mr.Korzack

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is aging both really well and Hideously as Mr. Bones' 2020 unfolds!

@Joesizzle777

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO facts

@V0TION

3 жыл бұрын

xd

@friendlyplayer92

3 жыл бұрын

xD

>customer is upset >make an island in the middle of a lake >banish them there there are no unhappy customers in my park.

@hyperflame17

4 жыл бұрын

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

@beretperson

4 жыл бұрын

Easy there Long Fenng

@averylazyguy8154

4 жыл бұрын

The Earth King has invited you to lake laogai.

@Youtube.Commen-tater

4 жыл бұрын

The island has one ride, and its exit is underground with no pathway, making the peeps drop into oblivion

@ricetomeatyou852

4 жыл бұрын

You mean banish them to the underwater floorbed

It's an important point that Chris Sawyer didn't just program RCT in assembly for the sake of it, he did it because of all the park guests having need and personality driven AI would have annihilated computers at the time if you'd try to write that in a normal programming language. Every park in Rollercoaster Tycoon is essentially a The Sims house, but with 100+ sims in it.

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

That part seems one of the easiest, RNG creates guests from a pool of potential guests, each with a timer on certain attributes and a range for ride stats. How he managed to create the physics engine is the question.

@Xfacta12482

Жыл бұрын

@@rmac3217 Easiest to code in a logical sense doesn't mean easy work for the PC. Think about when theres eventually hundreds to thousands of guests. Quickly becomes a lot of calculation the computer is trying to do.

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

@@Xfacta12482 But that's the whole thing about RCT and why it was the most epic cereal box game release... The computer doesn't have to think because Chris Sawyer programmed it in the most basic language possible, so it runs smooth on Windows95 with no RAM with all sorts of sh happening in the map.

@dojelnotmyrealname4018

Жыл бұрын

@@rmac3217 The physics engine in comparison would be trivial. The cool thing about physics on coasters is that you know exactly where the train is going next, all you need to figure out is how fast it's supposed to be there.

@joenoodle6914

11 ай бұрын

@@rmac3217 i think you should consider thinking before you speak

I tried programming in assembly once. I'd rather go on Mr. Bone's wild ride than do that again.

“Roller Coaster Tycoon” “Consensual Euthanasia” oh boy this is gonna be a wild ride.

@kappaross6124

3 жыл бұрын

A Mr. Bones wild ride, perhaps?

@luuketaylor

3 жыл бұрын

@@kappaross6124 What a shame that I am four months late to make this comment. But hey, you must still be on the ride, am I right? :)

@hornibitch382

3 жыл бұрын

@@kappaross6124 I WANT TO GET OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE

@johnfoltz8183

3 жыл бұрын

Sure, a theme park would open a coaster to guests that has never been tested. Action Park would like to know your location.

@redengineer4380

2 жыл бұрын

This video is sponsored by Mr. Bones.

I like how the thumbnail also makes it look like it says "Strange Beauty".

@JacobGeller

4 жыл бұрын

ME TOO Totally unintentional haha

@martijn9568

4 жыл бұрын

It's hard to unsee it now!

@coolbrotherf127

4 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought it said at first.

@nuclearbirds

3 жыл бұрын

Just now realizing that it -doesn’t- say “strange beauty”

@elnico5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacobGeller no way it was.... i literally just now come to realize it doesn't read strange beauty

One can not stress enough how impressive writing a game in assembly is. Where in your average programming language you'd say "save 3+5" somewhere in memory so I can use the result later", in assembly you say "allocate 3 in memory drawer x, 5 in memory drawer y, then allocate the result of adding drawer x and y to drawer z"

@Games-tx1zc

2 жыл бұрын

Don't even get me started on division. Imagine writing physics calculations in assembly

@mlgpro2241

2 жыл бұрын

can confirm, writing even otherwise straightforward projects in assembly becomes mind bendingly difficult

@rum-ham

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're comment actually under sells just how difficult this would be. Doing 3+5 is easy in assembly compared to the other things he would have had to do like writing graphics and audio libraries. I'm still not sure I believe this was actually 100% written in assembly, especially not by a single person.

@Mutantcy1992

2 жыл бұрын

@@rum-ham you're correct. 1% was written in C

@Lambda_Ovine

2 жыл бұрын

Programmers today complain when they have to even think bout pointer references, tell the system to allocate memory and then properly free it in C/C++, they think is an outdated way of programming that needs to go away, hell, they complain if they have to consider data types when declaring variables instead of using a catch-all var like in JS or nothing at all in the case of Python. I cannot fathom programming anything with intended for the end user entirely in Assembly.

As I kid, I came up with the genius business plan of putting all the people that had negative thoughts about my park in an enclosure so they could never leave. That way there could only be positive reviews of my park. I couldn't understand why people stopped coming...

@angeltier987

Жыл бұрын

I did the same but it was on Jurassic park operation genesis. The guests did not leave.

@ThZuao

Жыл бұрын

Well, I had a tiny pool of water...

@electralumen165

Жыл бұрын

The most fascist theme park ever.

@hi28

Жыл бұрын

@@ThZuao and the rest is history.

@zetjet9901

Жыл бұрын

Sims Moment

I want to get off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride.

@yaveker

4 жыл бұрын

I want to get off MR. BONES' WILD RIDE.

@spacedasher4738

4 жыл бұрын

Day: 237 I’ve finally gotten use to sleeping in this hell. Wish I could say that for the others though. Apparently Susan vomited from the sudden decent in her sleep. Thank god, i’m not on there cart. I taught myself to not think and just feel the environment of this limbo. After that I decided to do some writing. After I finally escape this limbo and see my daughter one more time, i’m going to share my story. Might as well make a script for my documentary. I’m seeing why Jeff calls me the optimistic one. Welp, this is Steven signing off.

@raiaqila1443

4 жыл бұрын

You Can't.

@SupersuMC

4 жыл бұрын

@@spacedasher4738 Write. A book. Now. :D

@spacedasher4738

4 жыл бұрын

Supersum Creations Thank you, it’s been my dream to write a book. This will motivate me forwards.

the whiplash i felt going into this video thinking "oh boy, wonder what cool things i'm gonna learn about roller coaster tycoon today!" and then immediately being hit with "CW: DISCUSSION OF CONSENSUAL EUTHANASIA"........... honestly i should expect nothing less from a jacob geller video at this point LMAO. i LOVE how you talk about the game's code in relation to the structure of roller coasters, it's such a cool comparison i never would have thought of on my own. your videos continue to never fail to delight me.

@max3446

4 жыл бұрын

His content is just consistently excellent.

@sanjuanaofeliacordovacamar5940

4 жыл бұрын

What a T W I S T

@alexb8433

4 жыл бұрын

You could say it was....... a roller coaster

@Tacom4ster

4 жыл бұрын

For a less serious discussion, check out this deconstruction of Rollercoaster Tychoon 3, very well made, focusing on game feel and feedback m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZiursuBY6mcmKg.html

@safe-keeper1042

3 жыл бұрын

Same here.

I admire how you planned the script to gradually climb, quickly drop, then move around like a rollercoaster until finally returning to the start. Truly brilliant.

@sponge6197

2 жыл бұрын

oh shut up

@oliparkhouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@sponge6197 nah u

@raistlinlove1307

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliparkhouse shut up

@oliparkhouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@raistlinlove1307 u tho

@raistlinlove1307

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliparkhouse Literally just kiss me, you freak!

"Some of the most visible engineering some of us will ever see." What a poetic description of roller coasters. Bravo.

There's something neat about knowing one of my favorite KZreadrs has also been to Dollywood. Yes, the south is very strange.

@UltimaJC

4 жыл бұрын

As someone who used to work there, I know how you feel lol.

@DiggitySlice

3 жыл бұрын

It's strange because its not degenerate

@icannon6611

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Bee I've lived all across the country and the Asheville area is my favorite. Don't want to ever leave it

@lotus6273

3 жыл бұрын

I have been to dollywood AND splash country

@peppinoandweskerfriendsfor3450

3 жыл бұрын

Tennessee sucks and I want to live somewhere else, but Dollywood was fun so it’s worth it.

Urbonas: We should think about death, here's a ride that kills you Mr Bones: Haha here's a ride that kills you for 3000 years Urbonas: Wait no

@Dorian_sapiens

4 жыл бұрын

Urbonas Urbonɐs ∩rbonɐs ∩∩rbonɐs Mrbones

@Bad-Sir

4 жыл бұрын

I want to get on Mr Urbonas dying ride

@blankieplays1350

4 жыл бұрын

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

@GreenThingonTV

4 жыл бұрын

The Sarlacc of rides.

Getting killed by a roller coaster feels like the most hilariously undignified way of dying, I kinda want it

@sluttyMapleSyrup

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Careening into the afterlife at mach-1 from G-forces literally suffocating your brain while riding an unstoppable train with no brakes is undignified?

@maxiepattie85

2 жыл бұрын

Make Room Make Room (AKA Soy-lent Green) Book/Movie gives you a custom virtual fantasy before they take your life (and make food out of you)

@RetroPlus

2 жыл бұрын

Probably the raddest possible way to die

@Marispider

Жыл бұрын

All I can imagine is being terminally ill and standing there at the entrance with my closest family and friends tearfully wishing me farewell before I get on the death coaster. They hold and comfort each other as they watch my lifeless body flopping around the last few loop-de-loops. Yeah, that's definitely a way to go.

"Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 is fully programmed in assembly" I have never feared a man so much!

@asthmaticancom4806

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've seen it's actually about 97% in assembly, but that's pedantry and I am also terrified

"Oh cool, RCT video" "There is a rollercoaster designed to kill you" "oh.."

@Tantalis77

4 жыл бұрын

and it doesnt feature boosters that launch you off the track, i mean wtf?

@sageitout

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like my type of rollercoaster :)

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

Launching you is too messy, my coaster has to keep your organs in tact for harvesting after the ride.

@stoneytheduck5554

Жыл бұрын

Damn my comment got some love, thanks yall

@EmeraldAshesAudio

6 ай бұрын

That sounds like a perfectly normal RCT video to me.

I couldn't help but laugh every time you showed that boat bursting into flames after SOARING off the ride

@user-bo6vy5eg8g

3 жыл бұрын

boom

@princessthyemis

3 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh me toooo!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

@justinokraski3796

3 жыл бұрын

I think the repetition makes it funnier as you face the inevitability of seeing it again

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

The old actual water slides with a launch ramp or drop in at the end were awesome though, no flames funnily enough.

As an architecture/planning student, I can understand what you’re getting at in regards to the feeling of ‘density’ with wooden roller coasters; although today minimalism is kind of the hip new thing, in design there’s definitely something to be said for having a feeling of fullness and/or rich detail, like the rough yet sturdy look of a truss bridge in comparison to the fairly uniform beam bridges on the interstate. If done right, hitting the ‘organized chaos’ sweetspot, you can create what feels like a symphony for the eyes.

@patrickcross1571

3 жыл бұрын

Addendum: There’s also an appeal in seeing something being ‘optimized’ with all its moving parts visible. I’d liken it to the feeling you get when seeing the inside of a clock tower with all its whirring cogs and well-wound springs; it satisfies your OCD need for perfection while also being exciting, dynamic, active. I imagine the appeal is there in any other simulator or RTS.

@alberthwang2900

2 жыл бұрын

Since my childhood, I've driven past Six Flags Magic Mountain many many times. Each time, I'd look over and see the familiar white hills and valleys of Colossus. That coaster truly deserved its name: it just LOOMED over the entire valley, as if mirroring the Sierra Nevada mountains. More recently, I drove past that park again, having not been there in probably over a decade, and did a double take. Those familiar white peaks were gone. There was this weird, skeletal. . . framework. . . where it used to be. It was like finding out the Alps were mined out for coal or something. As if some part of the land was. . . taken away. . . . so anyway, that's how I found out the wooden coaster Colossus was remade into a hybrid wood-steel coaster called Twisted Colossus in 2014.

@BlueRidgeBlackRedneck

Жыл бұрын

They are a product of their time too. such an excessive and luxurious amount of natural resources, used for something like a wooden roller coaster… is such a good metaphor for the abundance those generations felt in the massive growth era they experienced. Plus the time taken to craft such a giant thing in the age before computers. I wonder where the engineering drafts for the Coney Island Cyclone or The Beast at Kings Island are.

@patrickcross1571

Жыл бұрын

@@BlueRidgeBlackRedneck I'll bet you that at least a partial copy of those are hiding somewhere in the Library of Congress' collections. Maybe the NYC archives if not there.

12:01 actually, RCT would probably never run on a graphing calculator, precisely because it's written in assembly. Assembly languages are so low-level, so non-abstracted, that they have to be tailored to the exact type of CPU that runs the program, and converting an assembly program to a different CPU type means either rewriting it from the ground up in a different language, or including a clunky and inefficient compatibility layer. And graphing calculators don't use the same type of CPU as an IBM-compatible computer. RCT is very well optimized, to x86 systems - at the expense of being nigh-impossible to run on anything else. (Though with decades of time in between, even the compatibility layer might not be impossible on modern non-x86 systems, though a graphing calculator is still very much pushing it.) I will also note that with modern CPU's, it's often beyond human capacity to hand-optimize an assembly program anywhere near as well as a compiler could, meaning that one would be better off programming in something like C or Rust.

@fowlerfreak7420

Жыл бұрын

dont expect an emotional artist type to understand anything you just wrote

@chickenicecream1942

Жыл бұрын

@@fowlerfreak7420 L take

@fowlerfreak7420

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisstoltz3648 I'm an engineer. Stfu.

@vaels5682

Жыл бұрын

Here's a guy who knows

@arahman56

3 ай бұрын

Also, just the information density: graphical calculator displays are too low-res to display everything effectively. But on the flipside...we do have Doom running on graphical calculators.

10:20 the whole "RCT was programmed in assembly it's super optimized" thing is kinda overblown. OpenRCT2 devs will tell you there isn't much special about the code, and if anything, the fact that it was written in x86 assembly probably held the series back. It'd actually be impossible to run the original games on a calculator, but thanks to the OpenRCT2 team rewriting the game in C, that's now a thing someone could actually try if they wanted to. Well-written C code is just as good as well-written assembly and is far more valuable for porting purposes. Chris Sawyer himself had to hire a team to rewrite the entire game for the RCT Classic mobile release. Doom is probably the better example of a well-written game that can run on a toaster - people have literally written books on that subject.

@7cleverboys

4 жыл бұрын

yes

@JamEngulfer

4 жыл бұрын

I think in the past, having the whole thing written in assembly would have provided a decent amount of optimisation and if you really want, there are some things that can be more efficiently written in assembly. However, I’d wager most of the time, modern compilers will make any decent sized C program faster than a manual ASM equivalent due to the crazy optimisations compilers can do now.

@mjan9347

4 жыл бұрын

As a member of OpenRCT2 team: yes, not much else to say. Please upvote this comment to the top.

@akshaydalvi1534

4 жыл бұрын

Also Mr bones is not the longest roller coaster in RCT kzread.info/dash/bejne/g6OozLCldNWWh7g.html

@jakecirino

4 жыл бұрын

Still, as a software developer I look up to Chris Sawyer for RCT. It is quite the programming marvel to produce something like RCT using assembly.

Mr Bones Wild Ride is a fun thought experiment with a memetic title. But the longest RCT2 coaster ever made now is called the Century Coaster, and is named such because it takes over 100 real world years to complete. And almost 900,000 in game years. And the fun thing is, there's always further potential for more creative solutions to make longer rides! EDIT: Smashing the record of the Century Coaster, the longest RCT2 coaster is now the Universe Coaster. Thanks to iTzNikkitty in the replies for bringing it up.

@princessthyemis

3 жыл бұрын

Whoaaaa whaaat?!

@PlierPieBox

2 жыл бұрын

@piss piss piss piss piss piss piss piss piss piss nice name btw

@literallyglados

2 жыл бұрын

okay but I WANT TO GET OFF CENTURY COASTER doesnt quite have the same ring as I WANT TO GET OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE

@WannabeMarysue

2 жыл бұрын

@@literallyglados Yeah, I know. Like I said, I still love Mr Bones Wild Ride. I think Mr Bones is a fun story featuring understandable game mechanics. Mr Bones is like the immediate and understandable satisfaction of watching Super Mario 64 doing a backwards long jump. The Century Coaster like is hearing a Super Mario 64 expert talk about parallel universes, impressive but inscrutable. idk if that analogy even make sense But You Know

@literallyglados

2 жыл бұрын

@@WannabeMarysue oh yeah I get it

Halfway through the video and I'm like "Damn this is actually really poetic and shines a light on coasters that I've never seen before." That analogy that a coaster is a horror movie with the scary parts in plain view, yet still scares you? Beautiful

Mr. Bones' wild ride almost killed me when I choked on water laughing at 3:37. Truly a multifaceted death machine

Rollercoasters are the dragons of theme parks. Wherever they rest, they dominate that location and fixate everyone. Equally dangerous feeling while showing unimaginable wisdom in their bodies

@quantumblauthor7300

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure about the "wisdom" bit; are you high, bro?

@lennyjay8390

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, you‘re way too much into dragons!

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who had an unhealthy obsession with RCT and still has no idea how to make a coaster, also our go-to design is exactly the same haha

@dustmybroom288

2 жыл бұрын

15 took me 15 years to get good at building roller coaster in the game.

@Littlevampiregirl100

2 жыл бұрын

dont know how many times i built coasters that needed the largest drops, the most screws and turns, as high intensity as possible when the excitement was always a failure, and to let it be painfully long if none of the other options were possible but then eventually i had more will to learn the game, rct3 specifically, and wanted to make something realistic, ahah.. it becomes like one big math problem to solve. first of all had to understand how to make a coaster that does not make turns that break necks or drops that turn the riders into pancakes, or constant zero or negative g force that would make heads explode. there was a lot of learning and getting familiar with different coaster types, it took me surprisingly long time to understand what i was actually doing. but you almost feel like some scientist when figuring things out. after a lot of experimentation, i made just a few different coasters that seemed like they could exist in real life as popular attractions, with a bunch of useless coasters made in between. that was satisfying to create something with almost peak excitement and different mixtures of intensity depending on who you catered to, though the medium ones were most popular. but having that large and cool looking coaster farthest away from the entry with great intensity and even greater excitement, and it attracted the more crazy guests over and over again, that was something else. the nausea meter i learned not to care about, the guests dont seem to care, and first aid buildings fixed the actual problem coming from that. i think it also increased the guests nausea tolerance to other rides, which i thought of as a big bonus

The leap from the euthanasia coaster to Mr. Bones Wild Ride is possibly my favorite transition ever

This reminds me of the story "The Cold Equations," a story whose central point is simply "sometimes the laws of physics result in bad things happening to people who don't deserve it." Rollercoasters and rocket ships, both fields where you can crunch the numbers and say with certainty, "given *these* facts about the situation, *this* is what will unavoidably happen to the fragile humans in that situation."

When I heard RCT2 was coded in ASSEMBLY my mouth droped. Having made modest programs in highschool coded in Java, C# and other high level programming languages myself, coding in Assembly was a nightmare to me. Its known as a low level programming language because its the next step to code directly in binary, its extremely hard and it can break quite easily, you need to hsve a great amount of knowledge not only in code but the integrated circuits (the chips) themselves into wich you are coding. Its like making a tailored suit from scratch directly from cotton threads.

@tedsmith9726

4 жыл бұрын

6 months into using assembly: "Okay I got it to say 'Hello world!'"

@ultrahenk

4 жыл бұрын

He had already coded at least two games in assembly before - Transport Tycoon 1 and 2 - so I guess he sort of knew what he was getting into.

@narex45635

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultrahenk But the audacity to start Transport Tycoon 1 in assembly is still baffling.

@UltraMonkeyLP

4 жыл бұрын

By the lord did that shock me as well, to have some madlad even consider "yes I will write a game in asambly" was impressive. And that he even did it at least two more time showed me that he is a masochist and a genius or mad. But what can I say, genius and madness are two sides of the same coin.

@LaPingvino

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultrahenk you mean Transport Tycoon and Transport Tycoon Deluxe right (usually known as TTO and TTD)

I already knew about the Euthanasia Coaster, and have been on the internet more than long enough to learn of Mr Bones Wild Ride. But I sure as hell didn't know that Rollercoaster Tycoon's core code architecture was designed with the same design ideals as a rollercoaster itself! That was pretty mindblowing for me, and yet again is a reason I love all your videos. :D

@pebblessyou

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, it's not like Chris Sawyer set out to make a rollercoaster game that's programmed with the same brashness as rollercoasters in real life. That's just a comparison Jacob made. Sawyer simply chose to do it in assembly language for performance reasons, not artistic ones

@BigDBrian

4 жыл бұрын

@@pebblessyou yeah, and honestly it's a lousy comparison based on a lot of hand waving and not knowing the invisible engineering that goes into roller coasters (understandable, because it's behind the scenes)

@KuraIthys

4 жыл бұрын

@@pebblessyou It's arguable it may not strictly speaking be for performance reasons as such either. He was probably just used to working that way. Pretty much everything he made was pure assembly. Certainly his other famous game is. (Transport Tycoon.)

@despota2

4 жыл бұрын

Because this argument is pure bullshit made up to say something substantial in the video essay. Chris is an established assembly programmer who had a huge amount of code already done for TTD. By that time it was the norm to develop in c/cpp and hand optimize the hot loops. Coding fully in assembly had more to do with being a relic in a new era than a conscious philosophical choice.

@gastonzumbo9860

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that part of the vid is pure conjecture but imo Jacob fails to paint it that way and it comes out as fact. It's understandable because he's a journalist and not a programmer, but maybe instead of guiding himself off of that article about RTC optimization he could've asked a programmer. Not his best work honestly :/

this man really wrote a thought provoking thesis about... literal roller coasters. someone give this man an award

The best coaster I ever had was extremely simple in design, it had no twists or loops or anything, but it went high off the ground and spanned around the entire park. I almost went bankrupt constructing it, but when it was done it stayed completely packed for decades until I had to sell it off because it was breaking down like every day.

"I've been queuing for Mr. Bones Wild Ride for ages."

@johnfoltz8183

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Bones Wild Ride has broken down

Ok, I've slept on it, dreamed about talking it over with my mom, and reached a conclusion: I want to die on euthanasia coaster.

One of the things that really fascinated me was the crowd noise inside of the game it really does capture that strange oscillating tonality of crowds in person

I’ve ridden on a wooden roller coaster called the Goliath, there’s a part where you go upside down, and the ride itself is way different than the steel roller coaster. I even got a shirt that says,”I’m not a zombie, Goliath is that good.” I visited the park during a halloween event.

@theoleadfoot2864

2 жыл бұрын

Cedar Point?

@lazilylapis676

2 жыл бұрын

There's a wooden coaster in mtl, the monster, wooden coasters just look way more intimidating somehow...

@shadow_shine3578

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh I remember it.

@commissarvigil4806

2 жыл бұрын

I rode one with the same name in Atlanta

@LilypondMovie

2 жыл бұрын

Six Flags Great America? Used to work there. That ride is way too short imo

Whew this is niiiiiiiice. The comparison between spare steel construction and spare code is so compelling.

Truly a modern philosopher. I'd listen to him talk about oranges for an hour.

@hyreonk

4 жыл бұрын

modern philosophers exist tho, and they are definitely worth hearing

@qu765

4 жыл бұрын

May I recommend exurb1a, he is somehow even better.

@poisondamage2182

4 жыл бұрын

and he's somehome make oranges the most horrifying and simultaneously melancholic thing in the world

@youssefal-kadri6740

4 жыл бұрын

@@omn30 yes, i like your shirt. enjoy the orange!

@mayman4255

4 жыл бұрын

@@hyreonk There are barely any.

I let out an unexpected loud laugh the second you said this game was made in assembly, I'm still haunted by my extremely basic assembly classes in college lol, can't imagine making a whole game like that

When you went into the “catastrophically big” sequence I didn’t know what I was feeling. Your videos always make me emotional and provoke a lot of thought, but I didn’t realize that the Fallout 4 soundtrack was on in the background stirring up all those wonderful memories. It’s one of my favorite games of all time.

Years ago I told one of my friends about this coaster design. She has a long term degenerative condition that will eventually seriously reduce her quality of life. She thought the Coaster was a much cooler than the other alternatives for the terminally ill....

@skateordie002

3 жыл бұрын

She okay as of late?

@meandkitty8387

3 жыл бұрын

Its so important to be able to envision death in dignity, and im also quite enamored with the design of this rollercoaster. Wish your friend as much joy as she can get.

@pavarottiaardvark3431

3 жыл бұрын

@@meandkitty8387 often dignity means "going out of one's own terms". And if that's by rollercoaster, the so be it :P

@princessthyemis

3 жыл бұрын

O_o

I love what you do. Your work gravitates around physicality, and places, buildings, locations as individual bodies, it's fascinating. Your videos about the haunted house as self-made vessels of resentment, and the call of the caves we can't resist, and now the skeletal honesty of a roller coaster's design... Idk man I feel things. It's all so.. physical? Fleshy? Like these feelings are not so much rooted in the mind, but in the body - the fear of roller coasters is not rational, as you said we can already see it all, it's the body that fears what's to come. And we can't help but answer the calls of dark, deep places almost like it's stronger than us, more powerful than our rationality, like it's the body answering rather than the brain. I love how your work admits we as a group can't help but give an identity to these objects too, how by just being built they become others and separate from us and thus deserving of intention and recognition and sometimes an odd kind of conscience. It resonates so hard. Love that. Keep it up man.

You hit the nail on the head as to why RCT was so compelling. It's a challenge. Oh, you like rollercoasters? Name every track piece.

Ah yes, being blended at 10 gees. Truly a dignified death.

My first roller coaster ride was my friends expecting me to scream while I just sat there silently while they thought I died

@luigivercotti6410

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I never could scream either, what is up with that, are we weirdos? Like, I really really tried, many times, but every time nothing would come out. I dunno, have _you_ figured it out, because I'm still tryin' here.

@MyoticTesseract

2 жыл бұрын

i remember always freezing up as i felt the G's of a rollercoaster as a kid instead of screaming. idk, it's an interesting phenomenon

@okeus

2 жыл бұрын

me, on a coaster: content, a tad of euphoria others: screaming for some reason idk

@IndianJokarDanceGarden

2 жыл бұрын

I screamed on a roller coaster once and my brother yelled at me afterwards because I "ruined his POV video"

I’ve never clicked so fast. RCT is a classic series.

@glowerworm

4 жыл бұрын

You can play it on mobile for about $7. RCT Classic

@TankleKlaus

4 жыл бұрын

@@glowerworm you can get the original rtc on steam for like 3€ or so

@edsantosIsMusic

4 жыл бұрын

7 or 3 still kind of a paywall dont ye think

@naufalap

4 жыл бұрын

I spent so many hours in my childhood on this game

@electrollama2127

4 жыл бұрын

There is still a decent community on r/rct and Twitch.tv, partly due to the new and improved OpenRCT2.

I remember feeling like a genius when I figured out a cheap, quick and very popular coaster design that would always make my parks bucket loads of money. Was able to replicate in RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 and 3 as well to cheese my way out of most challenges. lol

I don't think I've ever been afraid of roller coasters. I get alarmed sometimes when their restraints aren't quite as good as I'd like, but I know that they're statistically one of the safest thrills I could possibly have. I never scream on roller coasters, I just laugh, because it's thrilling and exciting to be flung around like that. To experience physics in such a visceral way without much, if any, risk to your person.

I used to imagine all my parks as real parks and I would walk around through them in my mind. It helped me to understand how a footpath might be in a wrong spot or how another trash can would help. This game allowed me to do that in ways no other game ever did. That’s why it had always been my absolute favorite game of all time.

I had no idea Mr. Bone's wild Ride meme came from Roller-coaster Tycoon 2. I have learned at least some context for a part of the internet. Interesting. Well assembled video as usual.

@ashnambers

4 жыл бұрын

I want to get off Mr.Bones wild ride

@Johnof1000Suns

4 жыл бұрын

I heard of the meme before, but not the context of a roller coaster from Rct 2 that kills people from slowness.

@aero5679

4 жыл бұрын

@@ashnambers BUT THE RIDE *NEVER ENDS*

I never expected another person to have such a similar experience when it comes to the picture they got after their first rollercoaster. Yours is so similar. Obviously the ride is different. Mine was Journey to Atlantis at Sea World, but still. Mine had me, wide eyed and screaming, with my mom next to me, eyes covered with sunglasses and also screaming. Then there's my dad, sitting behind us, again, also wearing sunglasses, but he has this grin that lets you know that he thinks our reaction is funny. It is probably the only picture of younger me I like because I don't think about the physical person I'm looking at, but the memory. So, thank you for an incredible video as always, and also reminding me of that.

"My go to move when building a coaster was always to go as high as possible, do a giant drop, a few spins and then desperately try to connect it back to the start." Preach 🙏

@johnfoltz8183

3 жыл бұрын

Can't construct Roller Coaster 1 here... Too high for supports!

"it probably would be able to run on your graphing calculator" ...if that calculator has an Intel x86 processor, at least :P The reason almost nobody writes anything in assembly directly these days is that it only will work for one processor architecture, because other brands of CPUs will talk in a completely different computer language. One of the big selling points when C was introduced was that you didn't have to rewrite your entire program from scratch for every architecture you'd support, you could just compile the same code again with different settings and it'd work just fine.

@clapanse

4 жыл бұрын

That's not really a limitation though, since nearly all modern computers run on an x86-64 instruction set. All modern AMD and Intel CPUs, including macs, can run x86 assembly code just fine. The reason nobody writes anything in assembly any more is because it's incredibly annoying, and modern compilers have gotten very good.

@tifforo1

4 жыл бұрын

@@clapanse Don't most smaller devices run ARM processors that use a different instruction set?

@qu765

4 жыл бұрын

No, assembly code is different than machine code. Machine code is what only works for certain processors. The game would be able to work on a graphing calculator, it just needs to be compiled it to machine code for the graphing calculator instead of machine code for your computer. However, I'm definitely not an expert, this is just how I think it works after a decent amount of research.

@clapanse

4 жыл бұрын

@@tifforo1 Yes, cell phones and tablets run ARM. I was referring to laptops and desktops with my statement above, but I apologize if that wasn't clear.

@clapanse

4 жыл бұрын

@@qu765 Assembly is instruction set specific. You can't compile x86 assembly to work on ARM, or POWER, or SPARC, or IA64 for example, so in that way it's really quite similar to machine code. Most other programming languages are more flexible though.

I really appreciate the Fallout music in the background. It was one of those “is that...yup” moments. Flipped the nostalgia switch instantly. :)

Glad the youtube algorithm recommended me this, have fond childhood memories playing RCT and RCT2 back in the day!

I grew up playing Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 and I love it to this day! This video brought a big grin to my face and a tear to eye.

Wow I just noticed the word "reality" in the thumbnail kinda looks like "beauty"

@eliegbert8121

3 жыл бұрын

That’s deep dude

@princessthyemis

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's so cool! That's what I thought it was!

Ironically, RCT would probably *not* run on a calculator because their Assembly instruction sets might be completely different, and porting it would be a gigantic pain in the ass.

@mjan9347

4 жыл бұрын

Just like you said, it wouldn't. Unless, there was some way to convert all those assembly mnemonics into something higher level and recompile. Oh wait, OpenRCT2 does exactly that! And the video in almost all the scenes shows OpenRCT2 footage, not the vanilla.

@BierBart12

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjan9347 So.. could a calculator run OpenRCT?

@xmlthegreat

4 жыл бұрын

@@mjan9347 so a different version of the game which is not the same game at all but a recreation would work on different systems because it was designed to? Wow, you really are blowing my mind there.../s Besides, I've never played RCT in my life... I just watch this guy's videos and studied x86 assembly in college for one semester. Never knew the history of OpenRCT or whatever.

@mjan9347

4 жыл бұрын

@@BierBart12 given sufficient devotion to compile it for the platform - yes. OpenRCT2 is fairly portably, although it requires C++17 support from the compiler.

Wasn't expecting you to come out strong with the death positivity, but I am HERE for it

Never have I heard of roller coasters written about in such a poetic and mysterious way. It's 8:30 p.m. and I haven't even made dinner yet. I couldn't pull myself away from this!

“There is a roller coaster designed specifically to kill you.” Me: I think I’ve watched Greystillplays build it. Multiple times. Sees the design, hears its stats. Me: oh yeah. Definitely seen this in Greystillplays Planet Coaster series.

@shadow_shine3578

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh your right!

@aurus7245

2 жыл бұрын

13g blender moment

I once read that Chris Sawyer made RCT so that he could go to themeparks and file the costs as a tax writeoff. I found that quite amusing. Fun video!

Lovely video as always! But I feel a short correction is needed for the Assembly part. Whilst there is overhead for the computer to interpret the abstractions we build, that overhead is not present during a game's execution (assuming you're using a compiled language such as C++). For interpreted langauges such as Java or C# there *is* an overhead, but even that can be optimised away with a process called "JIT" (just in time compilation). So writing a programm in Assembly does not pose any additional benefits regarding the interpretation of the written code compared to something like C++. It gives you more control and more room for specificity, which *can* lead to optimisations otherwise not possible, but that is not because of the amount of interpretation avoided. I would also like to mention that many games were programmed in Assembly or Assembly like languages. The fascinating part about RTC is that it did that with a far more complex featureset in an era where using Assembly to programm games was already no longer a part of the practice. This doesn't change your overall point at all, I just felt it needed a bit of clearing p. A short "fun fact": Assembly is also not the final step, it is interpreted down at the hardware level into "microcode" which is then in turn interpreted by the CPU to the actual instructions necessary for evaluation.

@noahcarter3868

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. As a computer engineer I cringed and was going to write this myself.

@dyna9444

4 ай бұрын

First time in a while i’ve thought “this comment needs more likes”

I never knew I could be so moved by a mini documentary about coasters. It brought back reflections of childhood. I played Rollercoaster tycoon as a young teen and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I spent hours refining parks and creating rides (some were indeed killers). I applaud your documentary. It was strangley touching.

When he showed Thunderhead from Dollywood at 5:15 it made me oddly nostalgic for that job, which is something I never thought I'd feel. It was a relief when I quit working there, but I still miss the good parts.

@cheemsdoge

4 жыл бұрын

I swear I never thought I would enjoy Dollywood, it’s such a bizarre concept but they managed to execute it perfectly.

@ninjawafflezz5356

3 жыл бұрын

Such is the nature of rose tinted glasses

This is a really cool video, but I want to address a view things, technically: All processors run machine language, and most video games are compiled from high-level languages like C into machine language ahead of time - the processor is not translating into machine language at runtime. Some languages, like Javascript, are translated more or less in real time (with some optimizations). Nowadays, a C programs with a sufficiently good compiler will outperform an assembly program. The compiler is better at optimization than a human. At the time, assembly was likely more necessary to create a program that ran so well even on horrible computers (like mine as a kid!). Again, a super amazing video, but it's worth mentioning that for most video games "undoing the abstraction" is done ahead of time.

@notnullnotvoid

Жыл бұрын

"The compiler is better at optimization than a human" is a myth. Modern compilers are great at performing some kinds of very tedious optimizations, but they also routinely get fairly obvious decisions wrong because at the end of the day optimization is hard and requires intelligence to do well. A lot of low-level optimization work involves finding where the compiler did something sub-optimal, tweaking the code to give the compiler hints about how it should generate machine code differently, and verifying that it generates roughly the machine code you expect. A human can still do better, but the difference between writing the assembly directly vs. tweaking the C code to get roughly the assembly you want is small enough that it hardly every matters.

I don't know if this was intentional but i think it's cool that the "REALITY" in the thumbnail looks like "BEAUTY". A pretty cool double meaning

Thanks for the heavy dose of nostalgia! This brings back so many memories of playing RCT as a kid. I'm so glad I can still enjoy the game and OpenRCT2 is the best thing ever.

"-cause Roller Coaster Tycoon, is written in assembly." Oh, those poor developers...

@dustmybroom288

2 жыл бұрын

You mean developer

@Roxor128

2 жыл бұрын

Just think: the first playable emulators for the SNES and its contemporaries were also written in assembler.

The thumbnail (when small) can read both "strange reality" and "strange beauty".

@Dorian_sapiens

4 жыл бұрын

😮

I loved RCT as a kid/teenager. It was my introduction to more complex games I would soon fall in love with. As a former IS student, that little information regarding Assembly was jaw-dropping. I feel like that one Vegeta meme from Dragon Ball Super: "He's speaking the language of the gods!" Also, thank you for the Dragon Quest VIII music. My ears appreciate it.

I recently stumbled onto your videos and I just wanted to tell you how enjoyable they are. You have a fascinating take on design and art and present it in such a novel context. Keep doing what you are doing. Your work is excellent.

RCT was my childhood!! There were so many copycat “theme park” games released at the time, but RCT will always be my favorite.

@kaitlynharrison9391

3 жыл бұрын

its online for 10, i just got it and i can't get the goal for diamond heights! as a kid i loved drowning people...

everybody's talking about Assembly and I'm here like whoa the fallout and what remains of edith finch music in the background was really well used

2:40 is probably my favourite bit of internet trivia I've learned, I've been sitting here replaying that section and chuckling like a madman to myself for way longer than I'd like to admit lol

Thank you for this love letter to RCT! I just started back up playing this game for the channel and am absolutely in love with it again.

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@JacobGeller

4 жыл бұрын

patreon, babyy

I was addicted to this game when it was released 20 years ago. I actually got pretty good at building coasters, though it took me a few years of playing to get there. I still remember my best park. It was on that unlimited money desert map. Great video.

being a great big sea fan, I practically never heard drunken sailor that slow and it’s genuinely terrifying me adds to the coaster spook

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

I’ve always wanted to ride a horror coaster themed to Psycho. Main feature is halfway through the ride you enter a tunnel with the violins playing, you suddenly stop, see flashes on a big of the bathroom scene with the cellos added, then it LIM launches you into the 2nd half of the ride.

The passion you put in these videos on topics no one talks about is amazing

not gonna lie, I'll never get tired of hearing your childhood anecdotes

I think I could listen to you read the phone book and still be enthralled.

never have i seen such a masterpiece of my favorite game so beautifully dissected and made me realize aspects i've never thought of. thank you jacob 🙏

The thing is ... you wouldn't die in the coaster. Lack of oxygen to the rain only begins to do real damage after about 3 minutes. You may experience some damage due to the g forces, but at most everyone will wake up at the end of the ride with a bad headache. Fighter pilots especially could potentially even stay awake for nearly the entire ride, though they would be experiencing quite intense G-lock.

the way you described assembly is a little incorrect. most programming languages are run through a compiler and turned into assembly, writing assembly by hand doesn't necessarily make the code run any faster. compilers can usually out optimize a human

@jjjx32

4 жыл бұрын

you're cutting out an extra step. it's like switching from emulating a game to running it on native hardware. that's astronomically good for efficiency.

@nano8640

4 жыл бұрын

@@jjjx32 what? no it's not. compilers target specific architectures, there is no overhead unless you're writing your game in a language with a runtime

@killerbee.13

4 жыл бұрын

The optimizers of 20 years ago couldn't necessarily beat a skilled human most of the time, so it was a more-reasonable decision at the time. But yeah, nowadays there's almost no reason to ever write assembly directly. Although, languages like Java or C# do still entail extra work by the computer at runtime to execute bytecode or to JIT the CLIR, and though modern GC has more or less trivial impacts on overall performance in most instances, it does increase the memory requirements and can make timings inconsistent which can result in stuttering for a game. And scripting in games is usually interpreted, which does involve a lot of work at runtime. But the answer to that definitely doesn't need to be assembly, there's a whole range of intermediates.

@JamEngulfer

4 жыл бұрын

I’d say it probably made the program run much faster at the time, but now it’ll probably be faster if it was written in good C. Although this does make me think, could you write an LLVM frontend or something for Assembly and put the RCT2 code through its optimiser? I wonder if it would be much faster with the modern compiler optimisations.

@nano8640

4 жыл бұрын

@@killerbee.13 idk, i have no benchmarks that prove this but i think gcc was probably good enough to out optimize a human even at its inception. memory management is just not a problem human brains are very good at solving

You forgot to mention how the game feels “alive” similar to GTA games. The peeps think on their own, walking where they want, making decisions on their own.

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

And in 1999 even the few games where you had response options and the NPCs/story changed based on your actions in the game was groundbreaking.

"I want to get off mr Bones Wild ride" Me: It's just lines of code, they don't have real feelings. Meanwhile, some super advanced creature looking at humans: They're just a collection of cells, they have no real feelings.

My favorite thing about roller coaster tycoon is the melancholy environment. There's something so depressingly cheerful about the game, the way you see the bizzare rides and shops paint the terrain as it floats in the pitch black void. You here nothing but the cheers and music until you zoom out. The uniquely questionable music and graphics make you feel something, its truly a strange world that the game exists in.

@rmac3217

Жыл бұрын

Also the $100 entry fee to the bathrooms and the death coaster into the abyss, oh wait maybe that’s just my parks.

I never thought I'd hear you talk about Mr Bones Wild Ride

Tbh his death coaster is less deadly then any of the coasters I ever made in RCT2

5:15 I've been to that coaster!! The Werewolf or Loup-Garou ride in Walibi. And yeah, it is a massive thing entirely of wood and you can HEAR that your entire way through, even going "inside" through a jungle of the supports. It is incredibly visible to the point it almost feels like a background prop for the park and (admittig here i am a coward) i felt nervous just LOOKING at the height. Love that one

What a way to find out that my first coaster experience was the exact same one as yours! Took my parents all day to convince me to ride Thunderhead lol. Great video :)

@rondadams

9 ай бұрын

It's a great coaster! Rode it for the first time last year, multiple times on the same trip.

Everything that comes out of this channel is so fascinating. I've never played Roller Coaster Tycoon, hell, I've never felt very enthusiastic about theme parks in general, but this video was able to catch my attention in so little time. I love it

God I love this game, and I love listening to this man talk about literally anything

This was a surprisingly interesting video and I never could have anticipated the areas you’d cover. Great job. BTW - I loved RCT after discovering real world roller coasters in the 1990’s after moving to the US from the UK.