I BECAME homeless because my landlady was "kiting" her property. She wasn't making her mortgage payment, would let it fall into default, then quit claim deed it to the uneducated, 1st generation immigrant handyman then have a friend of hers, a loan officer who worked at several banks during the 20+ years she did this, refinance the property & borrow enough extra to pay the amount in default: robbing Peter to pay Paul. She repeated the process over & over again, passing the property back & forth several times. $30,000, $70,000, $100,000, another $100,000...till, in 2012 she owed $375,000 for the property she originally purchased for $50,000 in the late 1980s, with -271% equity & a $2200/month payment. Since the housing bubble had burst in 2008, & banks were no longer approving loans that people couldn't afford to pay, & were scrutinizing documents more, her friend could no longer help her refinancing anymore, & the scheme finally caught up with her. Unfortunately, I was the rent-paying tenant in good standing in the 2nd house on the property when the bank FINALLY foreclosed. On moving day, I tripped over a box & dislocated my knee & had to be taken to the hospital via ambulance. In all the excitement, no one remembered to lock my front door. When I returned that night, I found my home ransacked, & everything of value, all my tools, & the $3000 cash I'd withdrawn from my bank that morning to give to my new landlord for move-in...gone. I didn't have another $3000 in the bank. I didn't have enough money left to rent another place at all. I spent 6 years & 4 months living in the streets until I FINALLY found someone willing to give me a chance & rented their guest house to me. That was over a year ago, & I've paid my rent on time every month, like I always have. Not all homeless people are drug-addicted, mentally ill criminals. All of them, however, are human beings. ✌🏼

@Aniyasimone___

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your story 🫶🏾

@mememan2344

Жыл бұрын

Anyone ignorant and conceited enough to believe homeless people are somehow lesser probably won't change their mind, as doing that would be conceding that homeless people are worth just as much as they are a human, and some people base their whole personality around who they are "above".

@lamasterbatonlll1383

Жыл бұрын

I've been in the same situation my brother

@tompilkington7379

Жыл бұрын

In the land of plenty it a shame this crap happens to people. America is a shithole

@oh-not-the-bees7872

Жыл бұрын

@@mememan2344 I mean homeless people are still people, but I ain't letting one sit on my fucking couch.

Love how Ray grew up poor and struggling (as well as committing fraud) during the Depression but yet saw fit to pass judgement on poor homeless men who were looking for honest work. He got off the easy way in the end.

@MrSimondaniel3

Жыл бұрын

yea exactly. they probably weren't thieves like him.

@melanieo3880

Жыл бұрын

Well, one of the drifters stole a car on the way home, so I doubt they were angels, but they certainly didn't deserve death. The Copelands were monsters. Hard living makes hard people.

@DeliaMorris-og8si

Жыл бұрын

people use justifications like that as an excuse for their crimes against other people.

@drinas2783

6 ай бұрын

It's projection

@ProudBostonian

2 ай бұрын

What’s amazing is how much people have changed. Back then people who were poor/homeless were STILL WILLING TO WORK TO EARN A DAYS WAGES….nowadays they think “work” means standing on a street corner holding a sign begging for money, from those who do work. Although I still give those people WAY MORE RESPECT AND CREDIT, than I do to those people who ABUSE THE WELFARE SYSTEM IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

It makes me sick how many people abuse and kill the homeless. Those people still have families.

@Gen-X_Dirtbag

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly - they loved someone *and* were loved by someone 💔

@sandrashevel2137

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gen-X_Dirtbag so very true.

@heatheryoung9254

2 жыл бұрын

Even if they didn’t have families, they’re still alive and that’s enough.

@trives99

2 жыл бұрын

Family will help them not be homeless…

@minniemercury4818

2 жыл бұрын

@@trives99 Not always.

As a recovering alcoholic/addict with nearly 18 yrs of sobriety under my belt, I'm angered by Ray Copeland's contempt for and exploitation of downtrodden alcoholics. These men were trying to improve themselves and Ray Copeland used their vulnerability and good faith only to make them part of his crime and then murder them for their efforts. What a foul human being.

@HarvestMoon21

Жыл бұрын

@tony sabell... 8 years recovered myself and I feel the same as well. Unfortunately, people still take advantage of alcoholics/addicts. Grateful to be sober!!! Keep on keeping on my fellow traveler....

@renateailiff4488

Жыл бұрын

A murderous monster, yet looking down at those people as scumbags reminds me very much of another low life monster, called Donald J Trump!

@wandarask8444

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations.. Yes these people are beyond human Vile disgusting creeps Once again congratulations from Australia

@jackki6869

Жыл бұрын

S couple took advantage of the fact that families abandon their addicts members making it easy 4 this to happen..

@BEAUTYnIQ

Жыл бұрын

well who does a psychopath prey on.. the strong ? no. its like the bully on the playground.. he picks on the weakest, weirdest, most vulnerable kid.. rip to all victims..

My brother lived in the Victory Mission downtown until he got back on his feet. The Copelands approached my brother and tried to get him to go work for them but he turned them down. He wanted to stay close to home. We teased him that he didn't get murdered only because he didn't want to work. 😂 True story.

I love how thorough you explain check writing process for the youngsters!!! Very precise!

@theFLCLguy

2 жыл бұрын

Checks need to go away, I've had nothing but problems when dealing with checks. How hard is it to include Jr at the end of a name? Even the government does this to me.

@LS-tw1ng

2 жыл бұрын

That was great! I remember those days.

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

I still don't understand lol

@cdes1776

Жыл бұрын

That was funny - you never think of needing to explain the process! Cheques are rarely used any more so it stands to reason it's a thing of the past. The bugger was having to wait for a cheque to be cashed while the bank verified it at their leisure.

@princessromanov

Жыл бұрын

@@cjvaye99 oh then the old way of processing credit cards would blow your mind. They used to take your card and place it in a small, hand powered “machine”. The machine would have a paper loaded into it where info would have to be filled in. This machine had a thing in the top that would slide from one side to the other and at the same time pressed the card into the slip of paper whic had a sheet of carbon paper between two slips. The carbon paper and machine would create an imprint of your credit card. Then the clerk would fill in the amounts and other info that they needed to do. Then the customer would sign the slip and one copy would stay at the till and the other would b given back to the customer. So essentially you could go and buy many things on a credit card befor reaching the limit because there no computers swiping your card info. Same idea as the cheque kiting because by the time the credit card company would figure it all out and finally be calling you and sending letters of collection. Also made it a lot easier to use stolen credit cards

This story was featured on Forensic Files! Evil Ray Copeland shot those ranch hands with no mercy, he was sinister as you can get after scamming the local auctions

@LethalSaliva

Жыл бұрын

That's how I know about the Copelands. I've been watching that show for 20 years.

@DonaldGMyers

Жыл бұрын

The Copelands were nearly as evil as the Clinton’s and Bidens

The level of research is incredible. Specific numbers of cattle, etc. You're the Sean Evans of true crime. Amazing work

@user-gj1me4mf5c

2 жыл бұрын

You can easily find that also. But I love This Is Monsters.

@pookispalaceoflove6518

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-gj1me4mf5c Find what ?

@elainemurray5834

2 жыл бұрын

Yesss! Hot ones style research!

@Dumbassr

2 жыл бұрын

Hot ones is a trash show.

@1000trents

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dumbassr Exclaiming that you don't like popular things isn't a substitute for having a personality dude. Get a hobby

The humor and sarcasm in this one is remarkable! "He said he was going to take. Not pay for it!"😂 The bit about the chip in the wrist got me too!😂 I love it!

@OneMoreRedNightmare

2 жыл бұрын

His humor is my favorite of all the true crime channels. Especially when he gets mad.

@themirrorsofmymind

2 жыл бұрын

*"The bit about the chip in the wrist got me too..."* And me three! When he said, _"Wait a minute. We're not there yet..."_ I needed to hear that because it sounded like it *_could've_* been true!

@kkittycatkat1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@themirrorsofmymind Because it actually is true. It is happening in some places but not forced. I guess at this point it is a trial run that folks can participate in. Look into it as I have forgotten where this is taking place, or which places it is taking place, I should say.

@ginacampbell8766

2 жыл бұрын

You find it funny and I find it annoying

@NannupTiger

2 жыл бұрын

Some people leave a true crime channel that has any amount of humour involved at all.. not me but I've certainly read recent complaints about Mike from That Chapter 🤔😕 I love TC and always give it a goo... I think Mike always comes down hard on the criminal/perp. and is never offensive

It always shocks me when I hear about elderly serial killers. You just don't want to believe that.

@batissta44

2 жыл бұрын

Elderly people were young once. You dont magically become a good person when you get old.

@ClaimClam

2 жыл бұрын

@@batissta44 Young people are usually sweet and innocent too

@beverlybalius9303

2 жыл бұрын

I am amazed at the people that think all elderly or invalids are all good!, Not-so!,,The majority are nasty.. I drove a cab , I know!,

@chrisgraham2327

Жыл бұрын

Psychopaths get old too

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

uh haven't you ever watched Disney movies old people are always evil...

It's just as my dad always said, "Son, being poor isn't a sin, but it's damned sure inconvenient."

Great video, but just to clarify people often stopped going to school after the eighth grade. There would be an eighth grade graduation ceremony, then they could pay to go to high school back in the day. I know this personally because of my grandparents here in Arkansas. My grandmother actually went to eighth grade twice just because she liked school so much. It was very common for people to only have an eighth grade education during that time, but they weren’t considered dropouts, they just couldn’t pay to go to high school for whatever reason. High school was optional back then, like college is today. :)

@cpfs936

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention, an eighth grade education was quite sufficient. There was little fluff in the curriculum. There are those of us whose parents and grandparents could do math in their heads while you were still feeding them the numbers.

@Paroxid

Жыл бұрын

That’s crazy. My grandparents were born in the early 1920’s and they both went to college. However, we are Swedish, so all schooling is free so maybe that’s why. It’s sad that it’s such a difference between countries. In some countries kids might never go to school at all because it’s expensive or too far from their village or they have to help their parents to make money so they can eat.

@angelicaplummer4691

Жыл бұрын

it is adorable your grandmother went to school again because she loved it.🤗

@cradlingbrokenglass

Жыл бұрын

@@angelicaplummer4691 She always had the best stories about her school days. It was definitely some of her fondest memories.

@angelicaplummer4691

Жыл бұрын

@@cradlingbrokenglass woW so sweet

Showing my age here but I remember those check writing days, had forgotten about them until now! Listening to it again I'm so glad we are past that. Another epic work of art, as always Giles :)

@phoenixdavida8987

2 жыл бұрын

it really wasn't THAT long ago...

@queenjayneapproximately

2 жыл бұрын

you know people still have checking accounts, right?

@queenjayneapproximately

2 жыл бұрын

@Donnell Okafor i pay my car payments and medical bills via check. If a company wants to charge me a "convenience fee" to do automatic bill pay or debit over the phone they have to wait for a paper check cause I'm not paying to pay somebody.

@SilentEcho9194

2 жыл бұрын

Some places also charge you a fee if you pay with a check or cash. 🤭 It's hard to avoid service fees anymore.

Loved the check explanation. When I was in school, we were taught how to use checks and most importantly how to balance your checkbook.

Dude!! You are literally the most fact driven true crime channel I have the honor of subscribing to. You also take the time to make appropriate humor. You respect the victims, destroy the villains and teach the youngsters. Thanks for all these reasons! Loving your Content on both, this is Monsters and Somewhere Sinister. Faithful sub.

@tommymattox8521

11 ай бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅

Thank you for always including the resources for help at the end of your episodes. I so appreciate you doing that. Our family was affected by suicide this past January and so it really helps to see resources being shared here.

@mizera_mykle

Жыл бұрын

Deeply sincere prayers for those grieving such a painful loss. As for your loved one I truly believe they entered eternal peace with divine understanding and loving forgiveness because that is how an ultimate holy father receives his children.

@dariowiter3078

Жыл бұрын

For you, dear lady. 💐❤️🙂

@redwoodrebelgirl3010

Жыл бұрын

​@@mizera_mykle Very well & beautifully said. ♥️ Amen. And, God bless you for sharing this kind, compassionate, & True comment. 💗 God bless all who are grieving.

@redwoodrebelgirl3010

Жыл бұрын

I'm truly sorry for your loss. 💔 May your beloved rest in peace, perfection, freedom, & Joy.♥️ May you, & your family, & all those who are grieving this loss _(& all whom may be grieving ANY grief & loss)_ find comfort, healing, strength, support, Light, Hope, & ever-increasing peace.💗 God be with you, & hold you tight, bring you comfort, & be less you hard. ♥️

I get excited every time you have a new episode. Your style of narration is so detailed and you add sarcasism at the perfect moments. I love it! Thank-you for all the hard work you put into each of your episodes.

@laurenk6741

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, when i look at my subscription uploads and i see a monsters upload it's like you hit the jackpot feeling. I agreee with the detail, factual elements and including background elements such as metal health and abuse. Lots of other narrators will start by painting of some person to be angelic, has lots of friends, could do no wrong.. you can always tell they are the ones who end up as victims. Not being critical of them, just people have their own style, i guess even for the immatators

@lenormand4967

2 жыл бұрын

Look at his face and last name. Copeland is usually a yiddish name. His face, ears, and mental state are also typically yiddish. Missouri has been a yiddish hotspot for hundreds of years. Most light skinned serial killers are of yjddish descent..

@Awoodcock30

2 жыл бұрын

You need to get a girlfriend if serial killers videos get you excited lol

@Dion-rz3fz

Жыл бұрын

@@lenormand4967 Very insightful comment! And if you have certain bumps on your head you are more likely to be a criminal! And all this time we thought Phrenology was obsolete. Thanks for "edumacatiing" us!!!

@MotherOfCats75

Жыл бұрын

​@@lenormand4967 what fucking nonsense are you spouting?

The scam of hiring a laborer for the farm and then not paying them is pretty common in Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas... Specifically, in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Only that when a person was killed, people came looking, and if they suspected foul play, a hanging posse was formed.

@poetcomic1

8 ай бұрын

There were people who hired hobos in the Depression era, got a day's work out of them for pay and then stiffed them for the money. They were helpless to fight back but they left a mark for other hoboes on the man's house to let other hoboes know he did this.

You know you really like the channel when youve seen the story content before but not by this guy. Love him.

@thaithai9559

2 жыл бұрын

Needs to be pinned! Lol

@woopertrainer

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Forensic files covered this years ago

@melj7172

2 жыл бұрын

Omg! Yes! Well said!

@stevenwatson7668

2 жыл бұрын

I know, he's really good 👍

@d1rtyr3d18

2 жыл бұрын

Wait.... you like this channel, because u saw this story from someone else?

I've heard this story before and I've been waiting for you to tell it! Your details and resources are so much more complete to the story's you share with us.

@christopherlambert7423

2 жыл бұрын

same here, Bill Curtis told it...monsters is awesome but I definitely wouldn't complain about Bill Curtis

@luvmibratt

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherlambert7423 no Bill Curtis is nothing to complain about he has a exciting voice to tell story's and is very intriguing but what he doesn't do like the man here on monsters is write,do his own research nor produce any of his own material he's simply a narrator with a script. My guy here does and goes the whole 9 yards alone so like I said imo monsters told it best.

@christopherlambert7423

2 жыл бұрын

@@luvmibratt oh yea I didn't mean to take anything away from T.I.M he's great

@rosewater3

2 жыл бұрын

@@luvmibratt well put! I agree 💯% 🤩 ✌️💙✨

@saramaxinerigotti6260

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know this story.. It's interesting to hear about the old scammers & murderers from way back before DNA, internet& forensic science...So many people would have gotten away with heinous & brutal crimes !!

There's got to be more victims, these... people ramp up their crimes as time goes on. I hope they looked into all the bad checks they found, a lot of those would be victims, guaranteed.

A snowy day in Pennsylvania USA... Perfect day to curl up with Monsters!

Absolutely LOVE your dig about bit-coin and scanning chips in our wrists! I'm with you brother! Awesome video as usual, thanks for the upload. Can't wait till next time. 😊

@queenchanel6648

2 жыл бұрын

I love when he says “Get the Fuck outta here “!.. it’s always perfect timing!! 😂😂

@rosewater3

2 жыл бұрын

I agree 💯% with you both 🤩 ✌️💙✨

@MrPendell

2 жыл бұрын

Um, many places had been using debit cards for quite a while by the late 80s- in backwater Saskatchewan where I grew up, the local credit unions started issuing them about the time I graduated from high school in 1981, and by the mid 80s most retailers had point of sale machines. I remember being surprised when we visited my wife’s grandparents in North Carolina in the mid 90s, and debit cards and machines didn’t seem to exist there yet, and flabbergasted when we visited some other family in Texas the better part of a decade later and standard procedure in the grocery stores there still seemed to be pulling out a check book- nary a debit machine in sight. Not sure how I feel about implanted microchips, although it’s inarguable that they would be harder to lose or have lifted than a wallet, and I’ve frankly never seen the point of cryptocurrency for anyone other than drug dealers and international assassins, but cell phone based e-transfers for some kinds of transactions and protected payment platforms like PayPal for some other kinds of transactions seem to me to offer safe and convenient ways to do business in a wide range of situations.

You definitely do your research. $50 a day in 1986 was a good paycheck. It's about $127 in today's dollars, and would probably be tax-free under the circumstances. I especially feel sorry for Wayne Warner, 23:01. Served his country, then came home to battle PTSD, only to end up being murdered by a sociopath just when he thought his life was going to turn around.

@iclickedbecauseiamtiredofs4630

2 жыл бұрын

that"s ALWAYS how it goes🙄. Skeezus oops i mean sayten ALWAYS comes to collect🤦‍♀️. it's WHY there are so many of them 🤮👹🔥👎

@Juggz_N_Nuggz

Жыл бұрын

@@iclickedbecauseiamtiredofs4630 wow. You need help

@cjvaye99

Жыл бұрын

$127 a day today isn't that much

@Juggz_N_Nuggz

Жыл бұрын

@@cjvaye99 in Missouri its a comfortable living. Especially rural Missouri. Drove through there the other day. Gas was 2.29 a gallon.

As a 17 y/o college freshman in 1999, FLOATING my rent check each month, was literally the ONLY thing allowing me to both eat [Ramen] & also keep that leaky studio apt roof over my head. Just sayin.

@thisisMONSTERS

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't judging. Trust me, I'd be lying if I said I never floated a few checks in my younger years. I'm pretty sure my mom did it on the regular when I was a kid.

@lexirae7889

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisisMONSTERS haha, no worries.. that was more for the kids who never knew the *luxury* of being able to hide behind the small, yet predictable, time-delays inherent to the low-tech filing systems still at-use thru the late 90's & early 2000's, before digital/online everything was accessible on real-time 😉

@beverlybalius9303

2 жыл бұрын

We called it beat the bank.

@senorpepper3405

2 жыл бұрын

My mom used to do it all the time. Getting Dominos pizza on a Friday when my dad got paid on Monday. He got paid on the 1st and 15th every month in the navy.

I have never heard of this couple. My maternal grandparent's are from Missouri. That side of my family 's roots run deep in the Ozarks. How horrible for these men to loose their lives like this!! I am glad that some were able to get away from them. May all the victims RIP.

@quickchris10

2 жыл бұрын

I know; I guess he preyed upon drifters because of opportunity. But Ray's parents must have been drifters; didn't they say they had lost their farm and would've been homeless? So, he was a victim of the stock-market crash caused by the rich psychos who run the country, like the family in ``Grapes Of Wrath.''

@Juggz_N_Nuggz

Жыл бұрын

@@quickchris10 no. He was not a victim of anything other than his own choices. His family were not drifters but migrant workers looking to survive, but they did it through hard work and not stealing or killing

@quickchris10

Жыл бұрын

@@Juggz_N_Nuggz Have you seen ``the Grapes Of Wrath?'' The son, Tom Joad, played by Henry Fonda, had gone astray, killed someone and gone to jail. He gets his chance at redemption. (This guy didn't.) Tom Joad gets taken back into his family's fold. I think the ``grapes'' in the title are the ``sour grapes ''of Aesop's fable. (The fox tried to get some grapes off the vine that were too high for him to reach, so he saws, `aw, those old grapes prolly aren't any good, anyway; I don't want 'em,' rather than admit the real reason he was walking away was that he just couldn't get it done.}

@randolph158

Жыл бұрын

​@@quickchris10 qq1q11 my 3

Why your channel is not at a million yet..im not sure. You are a superb story teller. Thanks so much for your time.

@annieabfab6258

2 жыл бұрын

👌🏼👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🐨🇦🇺

@ladymopar2024

2 жыл бұрын

Very true I like this one is my favorite and then monsters is my second favorite neither one of them have a million subs and I do not know why awfully good well-thought-out in a really good storytellers

@OGA103

2 жыл бұрын

He had me the first time I ever heard him say "Get the fuck outta here!". Sorta came out of the blue and it was hilarious.

@troyounce3295

2 жыл бұрын

Because he's fuckin cringe

@Karen-dm5lb

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladymopar2024 This is ...is your favorite ? Could you clarify please, I'm always looking for new True crime

Sooo Faye is my mom's first cousin. I still can't get over how horrible this was. There's no real excuse for her to have participated in this, but keep in mind that rural Ozarkians during this time period had many cultural differences. Quite normal to have grown up in shocking poverty in a time where girls did not backtalk their husbands. Very sad 😔

@PREDATORYHOTDOGS

2 жыл бұрын

I'm Faye's first cousin. You're an internet liar

@ladymopar2024

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting story, it does sound really sad. I send blessings to all your families it is still fresh in people's minds my mom survived the Great Depression however I feel for the men because they thought they had to work keep the family together that's just sad

@lindaarrington9397

2 жыл бұрын

Her kids swore she was innocent.that she just did what that old man told her to do

@ozarklisa1199

2 жыл бұрын

@@lindaarrington9397 I didn't know her but in the family that is exactly what is said. My mom is of her generation and swears she was innocent and had zero choices, mentally she could not have seen any options

@lilydaniluna135

2 жыл бұрын

Was this the story told on that Netflix show? They couldn’t use real names but the daughters were telling the story of it all

Does anyone else listen to him while you’re going to bed at night.

@VelveteenRabbitinRedFern

Жыл бұрын

No. I don't need anymore bad dreams!

@Strrgrll

Жыл бұрын

I listen while I do my makeup everyday before work 😂 it’s so interesting and I come back home and continue while I eat dinner

@illuminixx

10 ай бұрын

Literally me rn

@lauraburke4306

6 ай бұрын

I listen while doing computer work

@69abbigale

2 ай бұрын

I listen to him every night lol

You snuck this one in on me! That makes me very happy! Love ya bud

I remember this story on one of those those crime shows.. that's a dang shame. Those poor men did not deserve what happened to them. Ray was a total creep...cheat...thief...con man...and finally killer. His wife may have been abused but I think she had some inkling of his scams and what he did to those men 😠

@patriciacarothers5216

Жыл бұрын

I seen this on forensic files

@paulazemeckis7835

Жыл бұрын

Of course she did. If you were her, brainwashed, controlled, living in total fear, beaten regularly....what would you have done? Remember females are raised very differently from males.and don't forget about the manipulation of religions.

@jeniferburton5235

Жыл бұрын

Forensic Files

@phoenixfox3379

Жыл бұрын

"Those poor men did not deserve what happened to them". Really, you needed to point that out? You assume that is not universally known? Is water wet? Just, wow.

@MotherOfCats75

Жыл бұрын

​@@phoenixfox3379 why must you be an asshole about it?

Love your work, this style of story telling is far superior than just watching someone talk......thank you!

I've read about these 2. You know that they would have never been caught if he had a better way to get rid of the bodies. It's disgusting to me that he murdered a Vietnam vet. After all he went through, just to be killed by a serial con/killer. I was conflicted about Faye She may have just did as she was told. And really didn't know the extent of what was going on When you study the case , their kids swore their mother was terrified of that old man and would do what she was told. It's sad these men were just trying to work and do better and killed over little $$$$.. RIP ALL VICTIMS MAY GOD KEEP YOUR SOULS

@kateapple1

2 жыл бұрын

Keep? Eeesh

@eddybowe2953

2 жыл бұрын

Faye Copeland worked for while she was incarcerated at the Chillicothe correctional institution. She never talked about what happened. this was just before her health went down.

@thevagabondsageinthewoods

2 жыл бұрын

But don’t forget why Faye was arrested. There were lists of names of victims and the dead ones had x’s next to the name, all in Faye’s handwriting. She also made quilts from the victim’s clothing that she told her son to retrieve from the homestead before the police searched. Looks a little guilty considering.

@lindaarrington9397

2 жыл бұрын

@@kateapple1 did I put ir wrong

@lindaarrington9397

2 жыл бұрын

@@eddybowe2953 ty 4 info

I was a Unit Sergeant in the Housing Unit Faye Copeland lived in. You would never know what she was involved in by looking at her. She looked like anyone's grandmother. Though she was an equal parter in the crimes, she was a model inmate while I was assigned to that prison.

@avi10000

Жыл бұрын

And she would have been a model person and wife if she had not married Mr. Monster.

@SMHoule-vj6jo

Жыл бұрын

​❤¹was gone with the wind part2 about scarlet O'Hara

You and Dr Grande both put this out on the same day, it's truly is a good day in the true crime community.

@terryford7459

2 жыл бұрын

DR. GRANDE HUH???🤔

@justynlyde1972

2 жыл бұрын

He's a psychologist KZreadr who often covers criminal cases.

@EclecticDD

2 жыл бұрын

@@justynlyde1972 He's a counselor, not a psychologist.

@oliviaherring9036

2 жыл бұрын

I was just gonna say this!!

@deffunction

2 жыл бұрын

yes, i think he's a fraud who is capitalizing on most trending cases. he doesn't really delve into the psychological aspects of crime , just superficial knowledge about basic psychology

You know you're old when the need to explain what checks are and how they work arises...

@pickledragonrebel

2 жыл бұрын

Ikr ?!

I wish that there was a way that KZreadrs could actually read my comments. Because I really wish I could just convey to you how much I enjoy your voice. Like I literally feel comfortable and calm and happy even though you’re talking about murderers. Good job man thank you for your videos.

I'm so glad you gave them their own episode Giles. I know they were in a shorter video. Mad respect. 💕💕

@suzimonkey345

2 жыл бұрын

❤️💙❤️💙❤️

People also used float to get double the interest on money they placed in money market checking accounts. This was very popular when interest rates were high in the mid 80’s. Thanks for making me feel 100 years old.

Almost done binge watching all your videos, and I gotta say your videos are really well done you do an amazing job.

@kimwalsh

2 жыл бұрын

I did that too when I found it ✌

@pepironi992

2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh. Nothin healthier than sitting in front of a tiny screen and watching hundreds of hours about serial killers consecutively.

@memebooker3032

2 жыл бұрын

Yup these videos get me through my work day

Poor ole Faye Abused by Ray The moral of the story.. Crime don't pay.

@debbieedwards420

2 жыл бұрын

Good one.

This was covered on A & E's 'American Justice'. I think your research is outstanding. You have more content than 'American Justice'!

Yup I’ve heard many of the stories featured on This is Monsters , but NEVER EVER with the immense detail that you give !! Effin Awesome !!!

Those poor men and their families. May they rest in peace.

🤗🤗🤗 Excellent details mentioned that aren’t mentioned elsewhere per usual. Copeland had one foot in the street and the other one on the homeless side, but yet he looked down on the homeless. What a dark soul he had, if any soul at all. Thank you as always. 🤗🤗🤗

Never heard this story before and appreciate you covering it in such length and detail. I am a big fan of your channel since the beginning and jump on each episode. It became my morning routine..getting ready and listening to your stories. Thank you for all your hard work...can't wait for the next episode 😄

I've never heard this story before. Thank you for covering it so well.

It always shocks me when I hear about elderly serial killers. You just don't want to believe that. Cause elderly people are usually so kind.

As usual, another case expertly accounted. Thanks!

Yay 30+ min video. Love to see it. Thanks for your hard work on these.

I appreciate you explaining the banking processes of the past. It was a different time, and alot of younger people don’t understand how these crimes can be committed.

You have just made my day with this upload. Thank you, Giles 🙏🏽✨

I enjoy your videos. I have a suggestion for a future one. I saw this story on Forensic Files. The monster was a man named Eugene Kaidel. He killed his ex wife and buried her in the backyard. He also set his house on fire which killed 2 of his daughters. Only the son and one other daughter survived. And she was frightened by her father so badly that she actually blocked the memory of him killing her mother for many years until she finally testified against him many years later. But I thought that might be a good one for your show.

@thisisMONSTERS

2 жыл бұрын

I'll add it to my list. Thanks!

@Zorobabbel

Жыл бұрын

I think I remember that case. He died in prison some years ago.

@joeylamuel5828

3 ай бұрын

I saw that story, too. A shocking case.

I saw an interview with their son and he said his dad was a vicious brute who abused him, his siblings and his wife. He didn't think his mother even questioned Ray's doings to really know details and was scared for her own life. I kind of believe him.

@anatheistbychoice367

Жыл бұрын

Of course he'd defend him mom idiot.

@ianhills8980

8 ай бұрын

He was trying to get his murderous mother off the hook. She could have left Ray any time.

Ohhhhh! I first saw this case in Forensic Files. They even interviewed the lady. She looked and sounded innocent but I'm pretty sure she was in on it.

@iamV10010

2 жыл бұрын

They made it appear that she was a victim of her husband as much as the others and I'm inclined to believe that.

I think Fay was convicted mainly because of the note that was written by her, knowing exactly who left, went back and who was killed. She was obviously pretty much involved in the scams and knew who her husband’s victims were. She just never pulled the trigger. They were both evil to the core.

@avi10000

Жыл бұрын

Was wondering why she made the list. It was self-damning.

@avi10000

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think she wrote it?

@mattiestorin

9 ай бұрын

​@@avi10000Ray wasn't able to read or write so forced her to write it instead.

Ok!! You have me HOLLERING in my car!! The commercial lol. The pizza rolls didn’t make it, but Josh did 😭🤣🤣🤣🤣 #simplisafe Ray’s narcissistic tail needed to be pushed into a well.

I remember as a kid in high school driving around backroads with friends and went to that very property one night. Of course, crossing the do not cross crime scene tape still being on site. Anyway, the shallow grave was still dug out and visible in the barn. Very eerie place and feel. Took a small piece of the wooden barn as a souvenir, have no idea what happened to it. Anyway, there’s literally nothing else to do in rural small town Missouri, than go drinking driving and ghost hunting. 🤷‍♀️

@vincentmcquade2241

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you had to grow up in Misery...uuuum Missouri!

@paulamaples9021

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincentmcquade2241 unfortunately I had to grow up in a lot of places.

@vincentmcquade2241

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulamaples9021 Well I hope you're in a good place now, sweetheart! God bless You, and may the road ahead of you be full of good choices and happiness! 😁

@senorpepper3405

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincentmcquade2241 I'm outside of st louis. It's not that bad. You ever been to Arkansas?

@vincentmcquade2241

2 жыл бұрын

No I haven't been yet...its on my bucket list! 🤔

I have been watching your channel since you were below 10k subs and now you are over 500k! It has been awesome to see your style and channel grow, it seems you have found your groove. Thanks for putting so much work into the content you produce!

I just wanted thank you I've been dealing with depression alot lately my older brother got murdered right in front of Me had his blood n brain. matter on my face n clothes. I have nightmares I found my mom dead at young age n my dad doing life prison so I have alot problem sleeping. I appreciate time you put into these stories thank you takes my mind outta bad place for awhile as it's only been few months an I'm dealing with alot grief I tried saved him he was only one being thrown thru horrible forster homes he was my rock n I love ur videos thank you

@thisisMONSTERS

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I’m sorry you had to go through all that. If you need someone to talk to, please send me an email: thisismonsters@gmail.com

@debbieedwards420

2 жыл бұрын

Very sorry for your losses.

@Bossbitchxxo-

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisisMONSTERS Thank you so much that truly means alot to me I appreciate it

@Bossbitchxxo-

2 жыл бұрын

@@debbieedwards420 Thank you very much truly for being so kind to stranger

@mariecoyle1413

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bossbitchxxo- So so sorry for your loss. Sending healing hugs from Scotland ❤️🌹❤️ xx

5:45 The part where Jiles starts explaining common/mainstream payment methods of the day, while it did make me laugh, I did appreciate a lot and was very interested. I was born in 1995 and it was specifically this process that I had trouble getting my head around. I asked my dad about this when I was a kid and while he did try to answer my question, the way he explained it left me more confused than ever. Until now hahahaha. Who knew Jiles' storytelling skillz translated beautifully into explaining things concisely but easily as well! Thanks a whole bunch! 🌷🌷

I have known of this case before, but I have to tell you , you did an AMAZING 🤩 job of explaining very clearly , what is actually an extremely complicated tale to tell . You gave a voice to the victims and my heart is broken 💔 for them x Thankyou .

You have the best stories, thank you so much for all of your work. I really appreciate it, makes the work day go by so much faster.

Missouri: “The show me the bodies state” 😂

I kind of miss the old check system. Two days before payday, you're flat broke but need food, just go to the grocery store and write a check for it. It wouldn't go through for a few days to a week, and by then your paycheck would be in the bank and you were good to go.

I've never heard of this case! Thank you for your incredible attention to detail when researching these cases :)

Damn I thought they were brothers when I looked at the thumbnail lol... They say the longer people are together the more they start to look alike... Happens with pets too 😂

@Druzier

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 me too!!!!

I live 30 minutes from Mooresville. I've heard this story before and I guess never paid attention to the location. And the fact that I've never heard about this case until I heard it on YT, is actually kinda sad. I'm 31 and I've always lived in Misery. Here where I live, I have cousins EVERTWHEREEEEEEE. I'm literally related to ALMOST everyone around here so I refused to date anyone in my area. I just checked Ancestry and I have ATLEAST 2 dozen Copelands in my tree. I almost guarantee I'm related to Ray and Faye. EDIT: I just double checked-double checked Ancestry, and I am in fact, related to these 2. They are my 4th-6th cousins.

This page has become like my fridge. I keep refreshing to see if there is anything new even when I know very well there isn't. I keep walking to my fridge even when I haven't done shopping hoping to see groceries there. 😩. Once I see an update it feels like the day after grocery shopping. No satisfying feeling Than that 😩😩😩😩

@scgeechiegoddessasha6843

2 жыл бұрын

Now Wy Wy That was A Damn Good Analogy 👍🏽 Bc I Do the Same Exact thing Especially With this Covid Mess And Me Not wanting to Mix And Mingle in the Grocery stores 🤭. I finally started grocery shopping on Amazon And Insta-Cart 😅

@wywy4803

2 жыл бұрын

@@scgeechiegoddessasha6843 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I just got off instacart and today will be a good day hahaha 😆

This was a totally different story of a serial killer. Nothing like anything I've heard before.

@deniserossiter1059

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I’m a big true crime fan. I’ve never heard of these two monsters before today. Very interesting & of course, tragic.

I look at them and think that they would've been seen as vulnerable. _"You two be careful, bringing home young transients. You never know which one of them would try to rob and kill a couple of defenseless old people..."_ *Turns out they, or mainly, Ray were as vicious as a rabid dog!*

I 💙 YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH ! Great detailed content, always click the minute I see your uploaded posts.. Thank-you "this is MONSTERS" keep up the great video's..! xx

Hey, hope you had a wonderful Easter 🐇 thank you for your hard work!

Great stuff again, even when I know the cases I love the way you present them. Blessings. As always I pray for all crime victims.

Love your program. Keep making great videos and nice second channel, loving it all. Plus your character comes through & that why it's so unique for KZread. Thank you much for uploads

thank you for explaining how things worked back then!! you learn something new everyday

One of the worst things about this to me is how he couldn't even employ these guys for a few weeks after the scam. He had enough money from the scam to pay them off. But he was so greedy he chose murder over a few hundred dollars.

Thanks as always for all the videos! ✊ respect!

I grew up about 30 mins from Chillicothe. My Great Grandparents owned an apple orchard about 5 miles from the Copeland's. When I was little I used to go there in the summers and play all over the land and go visiting with my Great Grandma. She knew Fay as a neighbor and I remember going there several times with her. Faye was a nice woman, very soft spoken. Ray never said a word to us that I can remember and from speaking to family members that were older and remember more of them they said the same thing, just not a very nice person. Our family land was sold in 1988, before anything came out publically about the murders. I still remember the day thet were arrested, I was on my way to the dentist in Chillicothe and it came on the radio. My aunt who was taking me had to pull over becasue she could not belive what she was hearing. Thank you for covering this. I am always looking for new videos on this case as it was my first true crime obsession.

Do people not write checks anymore?!🤣. I remember my starter checks lol

Hell yeah.. just woke up and this is a great way to start my day

I've been binge watching your channel despite of my review assignments. Hahahah! How can I stop? Hahahha! Superb videos, Sir. Keep it up. All the way from the Philippines! ☺️

I seriously get so excited every time I see a new monsters video!

One of my favourite channels here on KZread. Thanks for all of your hard work and I hope you are well. Take care and have fun 👍

Someone close to me once traveled around the midwest camping, sometimes staying with different people and doing odd jobs. He was a professional street traveler and he knew the best places to stay and the places to avoid. He has since passed but often I think how lucky he was to have never been approached by Ray Copeland since this was the very sort of place he would “camp” at for short periods of time. I doubt if Ray would have enticed him however because my friend had this weird ability for gut feelings about people.

Makes me so happy when I get a notification for your channel. I like it before I even watch, there's never a doubt.

damn brother .. you been hooking us up w all the videos i feel like we hit the damn jackpot lately lol keep em coming boss 😍

Love your stories. I've always wondered where you find all this information on so many serial killers.

It feels really telling that even with both of them locked in prison Faye didn't talk about the abuse she endured until Ray was dead.

@anatheistbychoice367

Жыл бұрын

A dead person can't defend themselves against false accusations.

I always loved your videos, specially you show all the scenes instead of your face unlike the other peoples videos. Good job, keep up the good works!

I watch this channel for pointers and ideas! I love this channel. Thanks for bringing these heros to light! They merely did what they had to do.

@amrielbang

2 жыл бұрын

🛑

Kids say, "what's a check?" 🤣

Stories simply told with no snark. Subscribed!

Great Giles. Thanks for the deep dive. You're very thorough

I love your sarcasm. Seriously the reason I keep coming back. You’ve got my sorta sense of humour and I always get a laugh 😂

My brother from another mother, your sarcasm is top notch😂Mad respect & blessings always, keep up the fantastic work my friend.👍

Is it just me, or do ya'll really miss the original Monster's logo???? It was so unique and creative!

Thanks for posting. Great research, great narrative voice. Good job LE. RIP victims.

Excellent job! I needed my Monsters fix

Wow! I live in BLOOMINGTON, Illinois & never heard about the Copelands nor the victims from this city! Another great episode!