Raspberry Pi fixed the rolling shutter problem

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Raspberry Pi's new Global Shutter Camera is extremely useful for machine vision, but it comes with a tradeoff...
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Contents:
00:00 - What is Rolling Shutter?
01:12 - The Global Shutter Camera
02:05 - Why does it matter?
02:34 - One big difference

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  • @noahluppe
    @noahluppe Жыл бұрын

    1440 x 1080p60 Global Shutter for 50 bucks sounds amazing tbh. And then with large, low-light pixels? That's a big step up in accessible DIY machine vision, wow.

  • @GameBacardi

    @GameBacardi

    Жыл бұрын

    is that kind of TikTok resolution ?

  • @noahluppe

    @noahluppe

    Жыл бұрын

    it's 1080p's 4:3 aspect ratio

  • @Mcs1v

    @Mcs1v

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats a big step? Theres nothing new here, just a new "not available in stock" raspberry product (and you can buy a non raspberry, but compatible module with the same sensor like the innomaker one, which is available maybe in the last 3 years...)

  • @noahluppe

    @noahluppe

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mcs1v I've never seen that specs for that price(only like at least double, making it less accessible), tbf I have only spent little time searching. And the innomaker is still more expensive, doesn't need a c-mount lens though (which has both pros and cons).

  • @StereoBucket

    @StereoBucket

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mcs1v Not sure why people have to claim that everything pi related is never in stock when it's literally not the case. Pi boards themselves, sure, that has been a mess for years now. Picos and accessories for both? They've almost always been available. The only time I can remember them not being available is in the first month of picos life where it sold out, but it has been in stock since.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын

    Even Jeff can be smarter every day!

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    That video on Destin's channel was eye-opening!

  • @thegreenpickel

    @thegreenpickel

    Жыл бұрын

    I instinctively reached out to grab the Leica when he dropped it being in a public place made it kind of weird.

  • @nexusyang4832

    @nexusyang4832

    Жыл бұрын

    I learned something new today. :)

  • @dynlenoir

    @dynlenoir

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling Eye saw clearly what you did there!

  • @parshvapatel8484

    @parshvapatel8484

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@JeffGeerling I have seen that it is possible to get linux running on Old android phones, but is it possible to add something like ft232h or Raspberry Pi pico to make it something similar to raspberry pi.

  • @haaspaas2
    @haaspaas2 Жыл бұрын

    Another solution is a stacked sensor which is popular in high end mirrorless cams. It is a huge deal for wildlife photography because it allows for silent photography without rolling shutter issues.

  • @rumperdumper

    @rumperdumper

    Жыл бұрын

    A stacked sensor is just faster. It’s not a global shutter, so there is still some rolling shutter on fast-moving subjects.

  • @ailivac
    @ailivac Жыл бұрын

    It... IS 1080p, if only due to a technicality, because people still measure resolutions at "full HD" and below by only the vertical dimension (an obsolete holdover from analog systems). 1440x1080 was used in some camcorder formats in the early HD era (I think normally in an anamorphic mode that was scaled up to 1920x1080 for display).

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point!

  • @ElNeroDiablo

    @ElNeroDiablo

    10 ай бұрын

    aye; 1440x1080 is 1080p, at least vertically, and I think Alec from Technology Connections/Connextras has shown early HD 4:3 1080p footage from media sourced from Japan in the past.

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын

    I used to take advantage of rolling shutters to make the golf club my cousin was holding look bent as he swung.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha, that's actually a great example to demonstrate it... should've used this video as an excuse to head to the driving range the first time this year 🏌️

  • @harrodharrod5239

    @harrodharrod5239

    Жыл бұрын

    Golf club is bent during swing. The rolling shutter just makes the bend more pronounced.

  • @d00dEEE

    @d00dEEE

    Жыл бұрын

    Old race car photographers would do the same thing, orienting the camera so that the shutter moved from bottom to top. It makes the car look like it's leaning forward as it passes the camera.

  • @TwoScoopsofDestroyer

    @TwoScoopsofDestroyer

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@d00dEEE The image on the sensor(or film) is upside down (and mirrored) so the normal top to bottom shutter movement means the bottom of the image is captured first.

  • @tigeroats913
    @tigeroats913 Жыл бұрын

    Jeff fascinates me by how much he knows and how well he researches his subjects I wanna be like him some day

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    In terms of cameras, I used to be a professional photographer, so all the Pi Camera stuff is right up my alley! But a lot of it is just research, and spending a lot of time Googling, reading data sheets, and tinkering!

  • @siontheodorus1501

    @siontheodorus1501

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling maybe try to make a camera channel if you want? Kinda curious about your photography side

  • @tigeroats913

    @tigeroats913

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling I'm honestly impressed and fascinated by how much knowledge you have you make difficult situations sound simple with simple solutions, I'm an aspiring homelaber and tbh sometimes it feels impossible to ever know everything

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tigeroats913 Oh I promise it is impossible to do that... and a lot of times I'm just scraping the surface of a much more interesting deep topic!

  • @gannas42
    @gannas42 Жыл бұрын

    This is awesome! I would not have expected global shutter at this kind of price point and quality.

  • @jftvrwk
    @jftvrwk Жыл бұрын

    There are actually not alot of global shutter 'hollywood' camera's (like Arri's new Alexa35) but the readout speed of the image have become very very fast to creep closer to true global shutter or celluloid film.

  • @annekedebruyn7797

    @annekedebruyn7797

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right. There are barely any high end camera companies making cinema cameras with a global shutter. RED recently came out with the Komodo which was purpose made to be a specialty/crash. But other than that. I can't think of anyone still offering a global shutter. Fun fact: Sony was the last company to feature a mechanical global shutter which could be synced with a second camera for 3D work in their F65 camera.

  • @larrypriest5789
    @larrypriest5789 Жыл бұрын

    Good to see U R feeling better! Thanks for keeping up the work!

  • @I4get42
    @I4get42 Жыл бұрын

    Good morning Jeff and Co.! I hope today is a good one for you. Thinking of the spring in the mechanical shutter, and the pixel readout on the sensor, makes me think of them both as describing a spiral. the spring usually is one, and the pattern of the pixel readout could be described as a square view of the side of a spring. The pixel readout is like watching a car slide down the spring one row at a time, but we only see it from that side, square view. (I wish I could put a diagram in here for a better description 🤔 ).

  • @pendragonscode
    @pendragonscode Жыл бұрын

    Great coverage into the technology of cameras!

  • @kayakcoder
    @kayakcoder Жыл бұрын

    Ahhh, the intersection of two of my favorite Worlds Photography and Computers - AND two favorite KZreadrs

  • @jackielinde7568
    @jackielinde7568 Жыл бұрын

    Jeff... um... I think you missed Devin's points about the video. He was geeking out how early 19th century engineers solved two problems back in the era of crude mechanical devices: How to ensure each part of the frame received the same exposure time as the rest and how to precisely calibrate shutter speed. He was never complaining about rolling shutter or the effect it can create on moving objects. He talked about how rolling shutter solved the problem of even exposure over the entire frame of film by having two shutters with a uniform gap travel across the frame. The second was how engineers figured out how to use the bending created by rolling shutter cameras capturing a moving image to set the shutter speed timing. It's actually quite ingenious. If you take a drum with evenly spaced slits in it and put a lightbulb inside, spin the drum at a set speed, and then take pictures of the drum, you can use the pattern it makes to see if the shutters are moving too fast or slow. At no point did he bemoan the effect. It was, "look at this cool effect and what it can be used for". Now, can Rolling Shutter be a problem for some people and/or industries? Sure. Are there other solutions that avoid the pitfalls of Rolling Shutter? Sure. Could you have titled your video differently to really reflect this? ABSOLUTELY! ALSO, why did you do Destin dirty by not including a link to his video on the topic? If you're going to use his work to get more views on your channel, at least give him the curtesy of a link your followers can use to see his work.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a link in the description...

  • @jackielinde7568

    @jackielinde7568

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling Okay, I found it, but only because the legend next to it seemed out of place. It doesn't look like a link to a video. (Maybe it's a KZread thing for the link part.) Would have been nice if the legend read something like "Link to Devin's video how the Rolling Shutter effect can be used to tune shutter speeds on cameras."

  • @TheOleHermit
    @TheOleHermit Жыл бұрын

    Already using HQ cam for recording laser imagery, which also has what's called a 'banding' problem, due to harmonic waveform frequencies. So, a great amount of time is consumed in optimizing the laser images with fps to minimize its appearance. The Global Shutter version looks like a great alternative solution. Thanks for sharing, Jeff. I'll have 2 please. 😎

  • @BLiNKx86
    @BLiNKx86 Жыл бұрын

    Glad to have you back Jeff. Hope you are doing well!

  • @rich1051414
    @rich1051414 Жыл бұрын

    AFAIK, most Hollywood camera setups sidestep rolling shutter by having an extremely fast data bus. They still technically read 1 pixel at a time, but they do it so fast it is very hard to get a rolling shutter effect. The faster you can read off the sensor data, the less the rolling shutter.

  • @AWriterWandering

    @AWriterWandering

    Жыл бұрын

    In this case, I may may not actually be reading any faster than a normal sensor. There are just far fewer pixels to read.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

    That resolution actually sounds good to me, and with no rolling shutter, I'm definitely thinking of some projects. I do have a Pi3 sitting in the corner.

  • @jyvben1520

    @jyvben1520

    Жыл бұрын

    sitting, it has got legs and a torso ? no beady eye ... i hope

  • @anon_y_mousse

    @anon_y_mousse

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jyvben1520 It has 8 legs and about a hundred beady eyes. It watches me every night. Sometimes I can hear it skittering across the ceiling, but when I look it disappears.

  • @perarneng
    @perarneng Жыл бұрын

    Looks very useful. Great video!

  • @realavx
    @realavx Жыл бұрын

    How many times you change the video title? Jeff: Yes.

  • @t1merickson
    @t1merickson Жыл бұрын

    The RED Komodo is a Global Shutter cinema camera as well, for applications with need for a larger sensor

  • @tsando1982
    @tsando1982 Жыл бұрын

    Arducam also have had globalshutter cams for a while - also low res. Hoping it will be possible to increase the resolution of this soon - great for observing moving objects in industrial applications

  • @asnaeb2
    @asnaeb2 Жыл бұрын

    Rolling shutters are fine in industry as long as the cam and subject don't move. Also high exposure time can still cause motion blur in cinema.

  • @JohnHollowell
    @JohnHollowell Жыл бұрын

    We've had Red Shirt Jeff, but now we've been introduced to Jello Jeff. Soon the whole Geerling Cinematic Universe will be revealed!

  • @Cyberguy42
    @Cyberguy42 Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious if the camera supports some form of external sync signal, that is basically required for reliable stereo vision.

  • @prozacgod
    @prozacgod Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I can get a camera for the raspberry pi I can't find... :P

  • @the_beefy1986
    @the_beefy1986 Жыл бұрын

    Woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't get back to sleep, and Jeff still had me covered. Patreon sub is totally worth it.

  • @theccieguy
    @theccieguy Жыл бұрын

    Great Job 👍

  • @ServeTheHomeVideo
    @ServeTheHomeVideo Жыл бұрын

    Jeff has that FANCY camera gear.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha just wait. You haven't seen fancy yet!

  • @earthling_parth
    @earthling_parth Жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for Destin to make a video on logistics of Raspberry pi manufacturing and delivering as he won't be able to find Pis to make use of this new camera module 🤣😆

  • @jyothishkumar3098
    @jyothishkumar3098 Жыл бұрын

    There's also a possibility for a pseudo global shutter, which can be made by lowering the framerate or shutter speed instead of resolution. It's the same rolling shutter, but the row values are read only from the part of the exposure period where all rows are exposed. There is an overlap between the time interval for the bottom row's frame 1 exposure begin and the top row's frame 2 exposure begin. So it'll be like, if the normal row period is 10 ms, all rows will be exposed for 20 ms, and only the last 10 ms of the first row and first 10 ms of the las row will be considered for illumination. All those exposure values will be in the same period.

  • @pelosmeusolhos938
    @pelosmeusolhos93811 ай бұрын

    nice content!

  • @idiotspieltminecraft1032
    @idiotspieltminecraft1032 Жыл бұрын

    The camera might be able since today, but I still can’t get my hands on a RPi Zero 2W

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K69 ай бұрын

    Now this thing would be interesting to use on the CinePi Project. With some proper lenses attached, maybe a softening filter and a nice LOG scan of the sensor image, this would really have the potential for some nice results at affordable costs. Just wish there was a 25p or 24p version with some quality gain. I don't need 50p or 60p for a movie project.

  • @DonckIT
    @DonckIT Жыл бұрын

    Another exciting camera tech, is event driven sensors!

  • @MarcoGPUtuber
    @MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын

    Is this the introduction of Jello shirt Jeff?

  • @KameraShy
    @KameraShy Жыл бұрын

    Rolling shutter?!? Now another problem I never knew I had.

  • @TheNetworkingGuy
    @TheNetworkingGuy Жыл бұрын

    Jello jeff! I like Jeff's jello form

  • @eightsprites
    @eightsprites Жыл бұрын

    should be possible to process the image to get rid of the rolling shutter effect? wouldn’t it be possible to adjust each line in software if we knew how much the camera was moved?

  • @Flimzes

    @Flimzes

    Жыл бұрын

    In most cases the subject is moving, not the camera, so parts of the frame will be still and parts will be distorted

  • @xhivo97
    @xhivo97 Жыл бұрын

    Is the shutter speed dependant on the camera module? With this having a global shutter I'd be interested in building a camera with it.

  • @spacebar2012
    @spacebar2012 Жыл бұрын

    there is also another shutter mechanism besides the rolling shutter which is named leaf shutter and it doesn't have this issue but that is only on fixed lens cameras as the shutter mechanism is more part of the lens than the camera

  • @muzlee7479

    @muzlee7479

    Жыл бұрын

    It also is slower

  • @pierrelezan
    @pierrelezan Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to fix a high res rolling shutter video with a second low res global shutter camera ?

  • @raghavji3340
    @raghavji3340 Жыл бұрын

    Can you check the CPU & GPU usage when running 60fops camera vs 30fps camera ? How much does the GS camera strain the resources

  • @DiyintheGhetto
    @DiyintheGhetto Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeff, How is it when taking videos? I have saw in some youtube videos people taking still photo's and sometimes in some light looks really good but in others looks weak for color and brightness. I'm curious about the video part.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    The Global Shutter Camera does seem to give slightly better color and clarity, just at lower resolution. It also works better in lower light.

  • @DiyintheGhetto

    @DiyintheGhetto

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling nice

  • @chuxxsss
    @chuxxsss Жыл бұрын

    Could I fit it onto a few NUCs, Jeff. Like I have 33 so far.

  • @programorprogrammed
    @programorprogrammed Жыл бұрын

    Damn what a great video

  • @raxathor
    @raxathor Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeff, could you make a video on how to change files on the SD card OS of the RPi by plugging a USB into the RPi ?

  • @HinkHall
    @HinkHall Жыл бұрын

    Another Jeff upload ❤

  • @nickdsnik1675
    @nickdsnik1675 Жыл бұрын

    How is the low light performance with those large pixels?

  • @pranavdhawan4471
    @pranavdhawan447110 ай бұрын

    is this a better option for RTSP setup for face recognition as compared to norma raspberry pi camera?

  • @scrapdiver1954
    @scrapdiver1954 Жыл бұрын

    cloud you connect to jbl speaker via bluetooth at the same time, and get them to play the same musik simultaneously? maybe with an raspberry Pi?

  • @andyfilms
    @andyfilms Жыл бұрын

    Most professional cinema cameras are actually rolling shutter, they just have a very fast readout time (4-8ms.) This actually emulates motion picture film, which uses a spinning mirror shutter and is also a “rolling” shutter. Very few specialty cameras, like the Komodo shown, are global shutter, and they’re usually for stunt purposes

  • @I4get42

    @I4get42

    Жыл бұрын

    ooh, ya. Hense a 180° Shutter Angle. Two holes on either side of the shutter wheel to expose twice per frame (I think 🤔)

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    True... though a lot of cinematographers lust after a true global shutter camera for certain types of shots!

  • @CNC-Time-Lapse
    @CNC-Time-Lapse Жыл бұрын

    Global Shutter baby!

  • @jwbonnett
    @jwbonnett Жыл бұрын

    Please can you try the Mixtile Blade 3 as server cluster?

  • @--onewheelskyward--
    @--onewheelskyward-- Жыл бұрын

    Neato!

  • @habiburrehman2584
    @habiburrehman25849 күн бұрын

    I have a question which camera is best for computer Vision projects

  • @canonest
    @canonest10 ай бұрын

    you can use anamorphic lens to capture video then stretch it to 1920x1080p :)

  • @Bloodthune
    @Bloodthune Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for a great review and explanation. Honestly though, they can put out new piece of hardware, but they still can't produce enough Pi's...

  • @cavemaneca

    @cavemaneca

    Жыл бұрын

    You do understand that they can and do work on multiple things simultaneously, right?

  • @Bloodthune

    @Bloodthune

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cavemaneca True and accepted, but missing the point.

  • @biomerl
    @biomerl Жыл бұрын

    I thought you had managed to fix the shutter problem using two cameras somehow, didn't think it was a new camera release.

  • @athmaid
    @athmaid Жыл бұрын

    That's why some still swear by CCD video cameras, they all have global shutters to my knowledge

  • @kura_bot
    @kura_bot Жыл бұрын

    It is more than HD (720p) resolution, 1080p is "Full HD" fite me (don't really, Great video!)

  • @greg4367
    @greg4367 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jeff, great review. It is wonderful to have a new camera to plug into all of my NON-EXISTENT Rpi4s.

  • @thedersstudio
    @thedersstudio Жыл бұрын

    Is this camera good for capturing sky activity likes stars, meteor shower etc?

  • @artosaariSRB
    @artosaariSRB Жыл бұрын

    Hey Jeff, was the hq camera also updated with the release of pi camera v3?

  • @Insane_Kane

    @Insane_Kane

    Жыл бұрын

    no

  • @tonysheerness2427
    @tonysheerness2427 Жыл бұрын

    Can you have the two cameras take two pictures and some clever software that takes the best from the two and make one picture?

  • @siontheodorus1501

    @siontheodorus1501

    Жыл бұрын

    Of course, that is how you make an HDR photo, although usually it is done by using one camera but it captures atleast 2 photo with different level of ISO, therefore most part of the image can be expose properly. Using two cameras should be the same although you need a software that can take photos from two cameras simultaneously and a beefy computer to process that in real time

  • @jon1913
    @jon1913 Жыл бұрын

    Jeff, it's 2 AM! Go to bed!

  • @magesnz

    @magesnz

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s not 2am here lol it’s 10pm tomorrow lol

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    😴

  • @mthugs4458
    @mthugs44586 ай бұрын

    Does flagship smartphones have global shutter??

  • @saptarshiroy2761
    @saptarshiroy2761 Жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to run Windows 11 on rock 5b sbc ?

  • @briangoldberg4439
    @briangoldberg4439 Жыл бұрын

    That's cool, but I wish there was also a higher resolution option for more money. I'm not spending $5k on a fancy camera, but I would spend like

  • @TheIgoorR
    @TheIgoorR6 ай бұрын

    This does not support any lens, right? I have Infinity to N 8mm 1:1.2 1/3" CS lens and can't get non-blurry image((

  • @xusiklviv
    @xusiklviv Жыл бұрын

    At first, I was very excited when I saw the pricing. However, for the application that I have in mind, it is useless without a hardware trigger. I think they are missing out big time by not introducing this feature.

  • @fallingwater
    @fallingwater Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see this camera on one of those cheap-ass brushed drones that vibrate so much as to completely jellify the output of their own cameras. Hypercheap drone + global shutter might be the solution to have cheap airborne cameras that actually shoot passable video, at long last.

  • @hatkidchan_
    @hatkidchan_ Жыл бұрын

    can't see rolling shutter bending because of tearing on my Arch system oh those FOSS problems

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Heh, that's a slightly different problem. But in some ways more annoying!

  • @goranjosic
    @goranjosic Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone know if hardware binning to lower resolutions is possible with this camera?! Pi V2 cam can do hardware binning to 32x32 pixels, if I'm not mistaken. I would like to buy this camera if binning is possible to small resolutions for easier training. Considering this is a camera built specifically for AI, it's probably possible?!?

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't see the benefit that would have with a global shutter camera. Wouldn't software downscaling before the AI training work just as well? I'm sure there's a way to do that with Linux even if your app doesn't support it natively.

  • @goranjosic

    @goranjosic

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eDoc2020 Yes, under normal conditions, I would train network at 128x128px and use software resize. But, software photo resizing on weak hardware takes "a lot" of resources, and hardware binning is free! I want to try to prepare AI for super weak hardware, like Raspberry Pi (without MIPS chips, etc.) or Esp32. I want to see how much I can get out of the miniature resolution, eg hand gestures and similar, on 32x32px (and possibly higher framerate) I have no idea on details yet, I just know want to try it! :) Hand gestures are sometimes super fast, so a global shutter would come in handy. It's amazing how much AI can extract from a small resolution, where we humans see almost nothing, especially if you are working on software for your own use, in your apartment, and if you are not going to change environments - then the network somewhat overfits on the background of your flat, and that part does not change, so training is faster and generalization seams better.

  • @johnlaurencepoole6408
    @johnlaurencepoole6408 Жыл бұрын

    Rolling shutter: moving car license plate accurate capture (I think and hope)

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    This would be one application for it-you'd need to have a lens positioned well for it though, since you don't have too much resolution to play with.

  • @KRAFTWERK2K6
    @KRAFTWERK2K69 ай бұрын

    This is why i still prefer CCD sensors over CMOS sensors.

  • @user-pk8fr8ix6d
    @user-pk8fr8ix6d Жыл бұрын

    Wow! This is really amazing! Not the camera though. How did you manage to make a video without LTT screwdriver or any other stupid product ads, and it is also under 4 minutes? I mean, I watched it entirely at 1x without skips and facepalms. Even had to put a like on this. Great job this time!

  • @user12122
    @user12122 Жыл бұрын

    whats the use case for such camera?

  • @muzlee7479

    @muzlee7479

    Жыл бұрын

    machine vision, tracking fast subjects

  • @harveythompson6053
    @harveythompson6053 Жыл бұрын

    *Should be available today, but good luck finding a pi to pair it with unless you want to pay scalper prices

  • @qazwsx000xswzaq
    @qazwsx000xswzaq Жыл бұрын

    This one is big for computer vision. $50 global shutter camera? Shut up and take my money. No 1080p? That's fine. You can hardly process all those pixels real-time and get a reasonable frame rate unless you have a beefy machine anyway.

  • @0LoneTech

    @0LoneTech

    Жыл бұрын

    It's actually 4:3 1080p. I'm hoping they also release a monochrome variant, preferably without IR-block filter.

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    For a hobby project I don't think the price is impressive. Virtually any old CCD camera will be global shutter. IMO it makes more sense if you need a duplicatable setup; you're unlikely to get many of the same model CCD camera on the used market.

  • @s0rr0wHacker
    @s0rr0wHacker Жыл бұрын

    Wow he should see this

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    It would be amazing if Destin could do a follow-up on digital cameras and global shutters! Many of the Phantom high-speed camera models have 'GS' and it does make a big difference in some cases.

  • @s0rr0wHacker

    @s0rr0wHacker

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling makes me wonder if this is the reason why GoPro cameras have a huge mark up or it’s just marketing gimmick

  • @0LoneTech

    @0LoneTech

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@s0rr0wHacker GoPros use rolling shutter. Even the ones that would benefit hugely from global shutter, like the max.

  • @tanakaobi
    @tanakaobi Жыл бұрын

    What`s the deal with action cameras that can film in 240fps in 720p or 1080p? They don`t seem to have that jello-effect.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    You can limit the jello effect with extremely fast sensor readout on rolling shutter-I'm guessing they can do that on those cameras to reduce the jiggle.

  • @0LoneTech

    @0LoneTech

    Жыл бұрын

    The jiggle is also directly reduced by frame rate, since it means the top and bottom lines are closer in time.

  • @RichardKinch
    @RichardKinch Жыл бұрын

    Without a hardware *flash sync* signal this is useless for much of machine vision or scientific photography. Nothing in the documentation mentions it. Is it there or not?

  • @MillerKevinG
    @MillerKevinG Жыл бұрын

    Who will you be next time?

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Always a good question!

  • @consig1iere294
    @consig1iere294 Жыл бұрын

    How about this, use 2 HQ cameras very close to each other, and flip one of them upside down. This way one cam will record top to bottom and the other will record "bottom to top" because of flipping it. Then correct it in post, that way you have an almost perfect non-rolling shutter solution. Has this been done before? If not someone should do it.

  • @I4get42

    @I4get42

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello there @Consig1iere ! That is a neat idea, but I think you'd get rolling shutter in both directions. So in one video the Top Left of the image is read first, and in the other recording, the Bottom Right would be read first. But in both videos, the opposite corner is read last. Then if they were combined carefully, I think you'd end up with kind of a V-shaped distortion so that the center seemed to lag behind the top and bottom of the object. There is software already for removing the rolling shutter, but I think there is a bit of a crop as it slides the lines over and ends up with a straight image, with slanted edges to cut off.

  • @Cyberguy42

    @Cyberguy42

    Жыл бұрын

    @@I4get42 Yes, I saw a presentation that showed how KZread developed an automatic rolling shutter compensation system, and it did involve some cropping

  • @I4get42

    @I4get42

    Жыл бұрын

    @Cyberguy42 ooh, cool! I'll go looking for a video on that

  • @RichardKinch
    @RichardKinch Жыл бұрын

    There are no lenses that produce 12 MP images, so the global shutter lower resolution is actually a better match to lens MTF.

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    Larger lenses can certainly support a real 12 megapixels. Tiny phone cameras seem to do 1080p pretty well so I'm _sure_ the HQ camera's lens can do more than the 2 megapixels of this camera.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, there are some C and CS lenses (not the 'semi-official' ones sold through Pi resellers) that can put through more than 12 megapixels of resolution. The official wide angle lens says 3MP but really gives enough sharpness at least in the center for a good 12 MP image.

  • @RichardKinch

    @RichardKinch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling Diffraction limits and aberrations constrain lens MTF and the resulting integrated image content to a few MP at best. Diffraction-limited spot size of a perfect lens (in microns) is about 1.3 times the f/number. So if you have a typical f/4 C-mount lens, spot size is 5.2 microns, which is 1153 spots across a 6mm sensor, which squared gives 1.3 MP. That's for a theoretically perfect lens with no aberrations. Actual performance will be lower. *The f/number of a lens wholly determines the spatial resolution of the lens images* . There are no 12 MP lenses in C-mount format, not even close. Don't believe the nonsense specifications from imports and Amazon.

  • @RichardKinch

    @RichardKinch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eDoc2020 I'm _sure_ diffraction limits prove there are no micro lenses delivering 1080p resolution across a 4mm or 6mm sensor. Read the Edmund catalog if you don't believe. There are no 12 MP lenses in C-mount format; it requires full-frame format to get that much integrated resolution. *The f/number of a lens wholly determines the spatial resolution of the lens images* and spot size in microns = 1.3 * f/number.

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    @@RichardKinch Doesn't diffraction lead to known image defects for a given wavelength? Couldn't you undo the defects with DSP to achieve better effective resolution? Within limits of course, each sensor element is sensitive to a range of wavelengths.

  • @qm3ster
    @qm3ster Жыл бұрын

    It's 1080p enough for practical use. Just not for producing widescreen content.

  • @imabeapirate
    @imabeapirate Жыл бұрын

    now to find a new raspberry pi to use it with

  • @jrshaul
    @jrshaul Жыл бұрын

    There's two kinds of people: those who believe this is pointless, and those who know how grand this is.

  • @Crlarl
    @Crlarl Жыл бұрын

    It's absolutely 1080p, just not widescreen.

  • @bunnatang2081
    @bunnatang2081 Жыл бұрын

    just wondering why we never heard you play guitar in a full song

  • @evilborg
    @evilborg Жыл бұрын

    Now if we could only BUY the Pi.....

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Someday... 😞

  • @78bakelit
    @78bakelit Жыл бұрын

    You must use the Sony Alpha 7 S 3.

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    a6600 is the camera I use, but it's very much like the A7SIII

  • @smayds
    @smayds Жыл бұрын

    Are CCDs even available any more? Significantly older technology compared to CMOS but because they're basically a light-sensitive shift register used in a store-and-suck mode, therefore no rolling shutter at all, modern advances should have made them really good. Time to go down a Wikipedia rabbit-hole!

  • @aaronv2photography
    @aaronv2photography Жыл бұрын

    As a photographer and videographer Rolling Shutter is literally the most annoying and limiting factor on a camera that REALLY limits some of the things you want to do. Want to use high shutter speeds and sync with a flash? You're gonna need to pay extra for a flash that can intelligently work around the rolling shutter issue to do that. Want to sync the flash to high shutter speeds and do it wireless? You are gonna have to pay extra for the transmitters that do that. Want to 3d motion track a scene and composite 3d objects in there? Don't move the camera too fast or you will need to correct the rolling shutter using software which will degrade the quality of the shot and then you can track and composite your 3d footage. I have literally been waiting for manufacturers to solve this issue since 2004 when I first started photography and it is frustratingly annoying how camera companies seem to be too dumb to solve it or worse... to lazy to because 99% of camera users don't really know what it is or care about it. This video gives me hope that some day we will have a decent digital camera that isn't frustrating the hell out of me because I want to push the shutter speed or move the camera fast

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Flash sync for photography is quite the pickle; I haven't owned a camera that can sync better than 1/200 for years, and that does limit what you can do, especially outdoors with sunlight!

  • @fookingsog

    @fookingsog

    Жыл бұрын

    ⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS! ....is why videoography has been so annoying to watch during horizontal pans!!! EVERY. SINGLE. TIME! 😳🙄

  • @siontheodorus1501

    @siontheodorus1501

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably not dumb or lazy, but because of physical limit. Because all DSLRs and mirrorless have a mechanical shutter that is like a curtain. Even if the sensor is global shutter, the mechanical shutter will need time to open and close it, and of course there will be latency when the camera sends signal to the flash and the flash actuated. Of course now we have electronic shutter that is like taking video, but the latency will still be there, and in some cases it performs worse compared to a mechanical shutter. I believe most of the consumers didn't really care that much about using flash and rolling shutter since most of them care more about resolution, color, high bitrate and high dynamic range.

  • @birdpump
    @birdpump Жыл бұрын

    you didn't open the cover nooo

  • @bizzfo
    @bizzfo Жыл бұрын

    Now they should fix their supply issue. It’s 2023 not 2020.

  • @thelazy0ne
    @thelazy0ne Жыл бұрын

    Problems solved: 0 But nice ad.

  • @IreshineSurfInfamous
    @IreshineSurfInfamous Жыл бұрын

    show some projects using libcamera please

  • @AdityaMehendale
    @AdityaMehendale Жыл бұрын

    -Instantaneously- _Instantly_ Why does everyone insist on using the former, and incorrectly too..

  • @backacheache
    @backacheache Жыл бұрын

    Is that a Stereo camera rig?

  • @JeffGeerling

    @JeffGeerling

    Жыл бұрын

    Could be used for that purpose with some extra software, but it's more a "comparison" rig

  • @fookingsog

    @fookingsog

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Jeff Geerling Would somehow have to do a tether and frame sync, otherwise if doing action shots there might be some kind of LeftRight interframe judder. Someone interesting you might contact is "Dustin Farrell". I'm sure he can give some excellent information on this topic!!! m.youtube.com/@DustinFarrell

  • @rbyt2010

    @rbyt2010

    Жыл бұрын

    Good observation though. Rolling shutter is the bane of stereo correlation.

  • @backacheache

    @backacheache

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JeffGeerling pi-3d has a nice ring to it :-)

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