Rare WWII Submarine Dogfight Turns Deadly
Ойын-сауық
On February 9, 1945, two submarines are poised to engage in a direct, underwater confrontation. It's the first - and only - underwater submarine dogfight in recorded naval history.
From the Series: Hell Below: Sub Vs Sub bit.ly/2NZrCDL
Пікірлер: 440
There is a lot more to the story of U-864. The U-boat mission was to transport several key technology to the Japanese by way of Norway and the Arctic Circle to Japan. Aboard the U-boat were plans and components for the Jumo 004 turbojets along with 2 engineers from Messerschmitt, guidance components for V-2 ballistic missiles, 2 Japanese technicians trained in Germany and 67 tons of liquid mercury. When the wreck of U-864 was located in 2003, it was discovered that the poisonous liquid mercury was leaking into the surrounding ocean floor forcing the Norwegian government in 2017 to entomb the underwater wreck in 160,000 tons of sand and rock to contain the leak. BTW: the HMS Venturer did not just stumble on the U-864. The British knew of its mission and location because they had broken the Enigma code and deliberately sent the Venturer to ambush it.
@georgea.567
4 жыл бұрын
Having so much mercury in an enclosed space like that sounds very dangerous.
@bytesizedkidgamer
4 жыл бұрын
And all those bodies in their iron coffin finally got a proper burial.
@828enigma6
4 жыл бұрын
I'd have thought the mercury would have been valuable enough to attempt to recover it. 64 tons is quite a bit.
@vaibhhavgupta7815
4 жыл бұрын
@@828enigma6 The value of recoverable material also depends on the cost of recovering from deep waters. Also, since it was a foreign vessel there would be a lot of red tape and politics, environmental factors and studies before any salvage operation can be initiated. It was better to just entomb it than to go into the headache.
@tillerperry6200
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how much you know your history
When you consider that the Brit Captain had to factor in the three dimensions of where the German U-boat might be, this is phenomenal skill with a lot of luck added in. The take away lesson is to never repeat a maneuver and don't be predictable.
@procyon6370
2 жыл бұрын
4 dimensions! Don't forget time. Commanders should be used to 3 dimensions.
@SennaAugustus
Жыл бұрын
There's not much you can do in these situations, you have to follow established doctrines and protocols. Having to make something up might not work and wastes time trying to execute such orders.
@PhonoDirect
17 күн бұрын
It's a trained imagination.
It's not a dog fight, it's fish fight
@limetwistanimations8628
4 жыл бұрын
Shark fighting might sound more impressive, but that also works.
@leroyhovatter7051
4 жыл бұрын
And actually a dog fight isn't a dog fight. It's a bird fight. Only a dog fight is a well a dog fight. Right?
@thomasmoriarti8214
4 жыл бұрын
Leroy Hovatter I’m pretty sure they call them dog fights because every machine that moves when it fights counts as a dog fight
@benjicool2808
4 жыл бұрын
yeah because dogs are known to fly
@JNedoCT
4 жыл бұрын
Its a dolphin fight, those few undertand...
This is why I picked the Infantry.
@ahmedkitovaheer5402
5 жыл бұрын
Damnit should’ve the air unit
@Andrescxli
5 жыл бұрын
Ahmed Kitovaheer thats even more dangerous than infantry
@johnsondelvetto4387
5 жыл бұрын
Well now you’d have to deal with artillery bombardment
@nonexistantman5797
4 жыл бұрын
Nah,become a miner from clash of clans,most safest job.
@395leandro
4 жыл бұрын
That's why most people pick civilian jobs .
Germans do some fancy manoeuvres whilst the Brits do the morning crossword.
You gotta feel bad for the Germans that’s an awful way to go
@Menyhard
4 жыл бұрын
Galactic Burger nope
@Dylan-lw1xc
4 жыл бұрын
John Menyhard they were kids 16 to early 20s they had no choice.
@datoneguy9656
4 жыл бұрын
Either you or them.
@pfw4568
4 жыл бұрын
@@Menyhard Typical Neocon Boomer
@pupplementarypupplements5804
4 жыл бұрын
always that one nationalist freak
The internet is amazing. Only place I’ll binge wwii submarine videos. Never woulda thought
This is truly an inspiration! But why would the British captain use his periscope if his target is submerged?
@sarpkaplan4449
6 жыл бұрын
GregoryTheGr8ster this channel sometimes add weird shit to make it sound more interesting. They didn't need to do it this time as it is interesting enough
@Sam-no8tt
6 жыл бұрын
GregoryTheGr8ster British bias
@jackgreen7989
6 жыл бұрын
It's due to the fact the Torpedo solution computer was linked to the periscope's head directional bearing, So by using the hydrophone they were able to get the bearing, The periscope then just needs to be pointed towards the target bearing. As for bringing up the periscope, that is due to the fact that when a submarine's periscope is retracted it remaining locked in position and can't move.
@daleburrell6273
5 жыл бұрын
FOR THE HELL OF IT(?)
@madscientistme
5 жыл бұрын
Is that why they usually have an attack periscope and an observation periscope?
All wearing abercrombie and fitch sweaters?
@Sam-no8tt
6 жыл бұрын
1 1 obviously
@daleburrell6273
6 жыл бұрын
1 1 WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?!!
@wuffos
6 жыл бұрын
Standard Royal Navy issue - it's cold in the North Atlantic.☺
@murielcunningham8703
5 жыл бұрын
@@wuffos yep
@talldude1412
5 жыл бұрын
You would have them hunt unfashionably?
Poor guys respect to all submariners
What an awful way to go...
@daleburrell6273
6 жыл бұрын
TheCanadiaKiwi THAT'S FOR DOGGONE SURE!!!
Lol! Submarine dog fight!! That's a dog fight in slow motion!
@constellation1986
6 жыл бұрын
pbkayakyer That would take 1 fcking hour to rekt the intercepting SS,lmfaoo
@vinee94yo
5 жыл бұрын
Dog-fish fight? :D
@OffendedFoxCh
5 жыл бұрын
@@vinee94yo very gud
Never have heard of that story. Absolutely amazing.
I served 7 years on submarines and the one “unknown,” especially during the WWII era was the enemy submarines depth.
As soon as he said fire I dropped my phone....
@OffendedFoxCh
5 жыл бұрын
wtf me too xD
@OffendedFoxCh
5 жыл бұрын
was about to comment that xD
@BruisedASScheeks
5 жыл бұрын
and then your phone exploded..
@chillz5004
5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand, why would you drop your phone?
@Martial-man
3 жыл бұрын
And then you’re phone flew into U-864
“Underwater submarine dogfight” Expectations: a submarine doing a cobra manoeuvre to slow down Reality: “Shhh be very very quiet, it’s submarine season”
@_R-R
Жыл бұрын
Shh. Be vewy vewy quiet, I'm hunting submawines.
New information to me. Now, I'm going rewatch Hunt for Red October.
@christopheralancawte7584
4 жыл бұрын
Correct title should be. Hunt for red November. (class of sub.) does not sound right. Chris.
@JohnJohnson-xt4lq
4 жыл бұрын
Read Blind mans bluff. That’ll open your eyes
@christopheralancawte7584
4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnJohnson-xt4lq , will do ,thanks,
@Brucev7
4 жыл бұрын
'Run Silent Run Deep'
@jeffbrooks8024
3 жыл бұрын
Now you know what it would have been like on Kursk. Worse and better on Thresher, instant structural failure and crush of hull in literally milliseconds. The crew wouldn’t have known what hit them. Like wise on Scorpion. R.I.P.
Making a video about submarines under the water: It's brighter here
What an incredible act of seamanship, Well Done!!!
@daleburrell6273
5 жыл бұрын
THAT'S TRUE- BUT LUCK PLAYED A HUGE ROLE IN IT TOO...
@stevebarlow3154
4 жыл бұрын
@@daleburrell6273 The luck part was that the British sub skipper was a brilliant mathematician, who also sank another submarine.
@daleburrell6273
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevebarlow3154 IN COMBAT, NOBODY CAN "GUARANTEE" SUCCESS- THEY CAN ONLY DESERVE IT!!! NO MATTER HOW DAM GOOD SOMEBODY IS- IF BAD LUCK STRIKES, ALL BETS ARE OFF!!!
One big flaw in the video: Why was the British commander looking into the periscope while launching torpedos?? They were BOTH submerged, there’s no way he could see the other sub using periscope underwater
@iciclespikes9332
4 жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, the U-864 was using its snorkel at the time, and Launders was tracking the snorkel while he was setting up firing solutions.
@_R-R
Жыл бұрын
@@iciclespikes9332 Yep. Periscope depth is still submerged.
British sub: fire! U-boat: Dive! British torpedo: no, screw you mate U-boat: *booom*
Wow just wow, that's what we call precise calculation.
2:21 that dude died very casually
That's a suitable name for a legendary ship. HMS venturer
Amazing!!
The Naval historian ..... I nearly screamed GRR Martin!!!!
Hey guys Can I see this full series Thanks. Looks Very Interesting
HMS Venturer later torpedoed U-771 as well...
@paulallen8109
4 жыл бұрын
While both were surfaced.
@wymple09
4 жыл бұрын
@@paulallen8109 I'm not sure Venturer was surfaced. Maybe.....
@MBCGRS
4 жыл бұрын
@@wymple09 She was surfaced. There is another of these clips on the action...
@kwzieleniewski
2 жыл бұрын
Earlier, on 11.11.1944. U-864 was sunk on 9.02.1945.
Oh it's history. I was half expecting two World War II era submarines still in commission somewhere.
Great video.
What I simply don’t get is the video showing Launders using his periscope. He wouldn’t have. The very point is that the German submarine was submerged; Launders was using a combination of the original sighting, hydrophones, and dead reckoning. He calculated a firing solution blind and in three dimensions. That’s why he’s a legend.
A "WWII submarine dogfight turns deadly." That IS the intent, right?
when is a dog fight not deadly?
@fedonia5610
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@capnbobretired
5 жыл бұрын
when its between Chihuahuas?
I was hoping to hear submarine depth & distances. Now I'll have to research this - as this is like 4D targeting. Awesome shot - wonder if someone calculated the odds of a hit.
There's a bunch of hot men in this submarine
@fireforce9706
6 жыл бұрын
violet goodman ur female?
@youmemeyou
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah ikr!!! 😉✌
@user-rb9nq7rm5n
6 жыл бұрын
all selected from the same modelling company for the making of this video..
@johnwilliamellis209
6 жыл бұрын
I hope thats a joke about submarines being hot..
@badlandskid
5 жыл бұрын
Violet Rain .... WAS.... they are all pretty much dead by now.
British navy was the more trained and best navy in the world...their sailors were highly trained
@5000mahmud
3 жыл бұрын
the sub crews of the royal navy were underrated
@yvespenaflor4610
10 ай бұрын
Laughs in Bismarck
More of an ambush than a "dogfight" I'd say. . .
@5000mahmud
3 жыл бұрын
is it really an ambush if the enemy is aware of your attack?
What they left out on this was that the Uboat was able to be tracked because it’s diesel engine was malfunctioning giving off a terrible bent valve/broken rod sound as it was using its snorkel
@deborahrauth7629
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. They were under water which means they were running on battery power
@kennedyleong5205
4 жыл бұрын
@@deborahrauth7629 If the Germans were submerged but using their snorkel, that means that the German sub was just beneath the surface with the head of the snorkel just above the surface of the water to allow the diesel to run. This would also explain how the British sub was able to estimate how deep the German sub might be since the height of the snorkel is limited. In WW2 battery powered electric motors could only propel a sub slowly which is why using the diesel when barely submerged is preferable since it would allow faster underwater speed compared to batteries.
@xiaoka
4 жыл бұрын
Kennedy Leong that would explain why the British skipper kept looking out the periscope.
@TheHappyBiker900
3 жыл бұрын
@@deborahrauth7629 Initially, the u boats d'sl engines were broken and it was the noise from the broken dsls that gave them away. At the end of the war the Germans had invented the snorkel mast which ment the submarine could be be running its dsls at PD. The venture was given notice the German s/m was in area and it detected the geman submarine on asdic. When the OOW looked through the periscope to find the contact they couldn't see one (because the s/m was dived at pd). You only have to use batteries bellow periscope depth.
@TheHappyBiker900
3 жыл бұрын
@@xiaoka correct.
So would the captain really raise the periscope while submerged below periscope depth; and if he did how far could he see through a periscope that is also under water?
That's a big brain move
Wow
Those submariner sweaters are awesome!
Too cool. Good job. Proud we were, and are, allies.
How many submarine videos has this channel uploaded
Nioce vidio
Such a heroic battle
Now that's badass
Hollywood will probably make a movie out of this..They will Americanize this underwater dogfight.
Brilliant.
Rare, more like ONLY.
@daleburrell6273
4 жыл бұрын
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?!!
Good video
What’s long and has seamen a submarine
@juliamilani5564
6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Williams no 12
@chrisa2612
5 жыл бұрын
A BBC?
@395leandro
4 жыл бұрын
Punctuation goes a long way.
That's one reason (the risks and isolation) why sub duty, at least in the U.S. NAVY is totally volunteer. And why it's extra pay and the best food in the Navy. The Silent Service, Run Silent ilent, Run Deep. Go NAVY! ✌🏻🇺🇸
@soundspartan
5 жыл бұрын
George B...Please know, the ENTIRE United States military is volunteer.
@dspates51
4 жыл бұрын
@@soundspartan the Navy doesn't make you serve onboard submarines. It's an all volunteer force. Everyone that volunteer doesn't make it because they are carefully screened to make sure they are capable of dealing with life onboard submarines. The living conditions onboard submarines is very similar to that of the International Space Station. The only thing they don't have to deal with is the zero gravity.
Submarine and dogfight are two words id never expect to hear in the same sentence
@danielwilde2248
3 жыл бұрын
Fish fight maybe?
What a mind in that Sub Commander.!!
Royal Navy Officers use the command "Shoot". "Fire!" means something else entirely.
Wasn't there a submarine movie U something can't remember the number where they did this too?
Can periscopes see underwater?
Wheres the movie?
Ok kiddos that's why you gotta learn all that math in school😎
fire! German: drive in a straight line!
@zzirSnipzz1
4 жыл бұрын
@Oldschool1973 predictable zig zags aren't smart :)
I how the producers, decided to put submariner's in nice, white, turtle neck, sweaters. 'Hey, mate, cup of tea?!"
@tommypetraglia4688
4 жыл бұрын
Shiny clean shave, fresh haircut w/a bit of gel Meanwhile the Germans...
The Allied Powers ☀️🌍🇬🇧💪🏻
Rip
Real?
0:52 eric got some lemon juice in his eyes
How come all the actors in this series are so handsome? Dang
In reality the torpedo hit directly beneath the conning tower and blew the U-boat in half immediately the wreck came to rest 500 feet deep in 2 big pieces
@mvd4436
3 жыл бұрын
nope
One thing about him is that he fired two torpedoes, to get that shot, and he calculated most accurately, and he had good intelligence to understand how that submarine will respond when it has a torpedo in the water going for it but he had left to right which way should we have to go about us shouldn't waste
This is PRECISELY why you pay attention in math class. 🤓
what were the other dogfights that did not result in deaths? And which ones were alleged to but not confirmed?
@wymple09
4 жыл бұрын
Snoopy and the Red Baron at Xmas.
I never knew this. I was Navy. Never heard about it. Pretty cool.👍🏻🇺🇸
@mattxgaming4053
4 жыл бұрын
Cool, what rating?
Ok this is one of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while
How the british sub detected range and movement of a u boat ? I mean what methods they have used?
@admiralrover74
4 жыл бұрын
Launders only use his Periscope to Search the U Boat's Periscope when they saw the Location of the Enemy Periscope they Finally determine and know the bloody range and they Also use HMS Venturer's underwater Hydrophone to know the Movement of the Uboat and they didn't use there ASDIC or SONAR or any Active Sensor that could make Ping Noise they use there Passive SONAR or ASDIC or just the Hydrophone so they could here the Movement of the Enemy in which they could know The Course of the Enemy and after that Launders Calculated everything on how they can Sunk the German U Boat and the Uboat Sunk all of that because of the Launder and the Brave Crew of HMS Venturer
@dspates51
4 жыл бұрын
The method that they used is called TMA(Target Motion Analysis). It's used to track submerged and surface targets.
I mean I wouldn’t expect it to turn friendly
Britannia always rules the waves...
@billylauwda9178
4 жыл бұрын
Correction, Britannia Rules the *Depths* *COME OVA HERE DAVY JONES!!! YER BOUT TO BE COLONIZED*
I like how at the end it says it’s brighter here but this cuña el is plane crashes and submarine accidents 😂
Bravo brits!
Dr. Eric Grove naval historian has put on a few pounds over the years and I'm not talking about British currency. I've seen him for years on the history channel. Lol.
@daleburrell6273
4 жыл бұрын
WHAT'S THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING?!!
Intelligent maneuver ! ☝💪 Horrific death !!! 😓😵😲😫😩
German submariners were like the Al Qaeda of their time. Hard to feel bad for them.
@Enrico_Dandolo
2 жыл бұрын
Nonsense
Looks like Dustin Diamond is working again. Awesome.
@lookronjon
5 жыл бұрын
Ian Wallace I think you mean screech
Another thing is that I would have not been smart enough to approach the way he did it at the time of the encounter how I recognize them
Is t that the idea? "Turn deadly"
The only reason that this was a successful operation that people were confident enough to listen to destruction during the combat engagement and situation if it was anything else
Well you wouldn't expect a 'dogfight' to get friendly?!
IF he's under water, why do you show him raising the periscope?
Wondering about title? Aren't they supposed to be deadly?
At this time we have to understand the nature and the caliber of the characters and people that made our country the most incredible place in the world if we don't recognize them for their achievements with your resent the David
❤️❤️❤️
Obviously, the British have white turtle neck sweaters in deadly warfare.
Please explain "Up Periscope" ???????
@daleburrell6273
3 жыл бұрын
...THAT'S THE TITLE OF A WW2 MOVIE FROM THE 1950s WITH JAMES GARNER-!!!
@grahamsowerby6087
3 жыл бұрын
The reason I was asking was because they were surfaced at the time! Cheers!
@daleburrell6273
3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamsowerby6087 WHO WAS SURFACED?!
Bonjour a tous du Canada I'm surprise 2 submarine fight underwater ww2
Total genius…
Up periscope? Thought they were submerged.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think the periscope is for use on the surface?
@jameswill9323
3 жыл бұрын
@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 Just below the surface. What are you gonna look at with it when you're down deep?
Dying so close to the end of the war. 😳
How did Peter Andre get in there?
About time (if they haven't already), they did Alastair Mars's snap shot that blew the bow of two Italian Cruisers. Not that's how to do maths in your head.
Why would you look through the telescope when you are submerged?
He didn't miss hitting that summary at least 60 to 100 just think about that you have to be all you need to do the special, sent and he hooks it with exceptional