I was diagnosed with arthritis at 28 years old which limited the movement in a couple of my fingers. Being able to remap the shoulder buttons to the paddles on the Xbox Elite was a massive thing for me. It's not cheap but I never hear people talking about how useful it can be for accessibility.

@hi_tech_reptiles

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I play on PC, and having good/extra side buttons on my mouse helps me cuz I'm missing my left ring finger. Def get how that kinda thing can be game changing, pardon the pun. Plus, a friend has arthritis and playing on PC he uses that Razer keyboard replacement type thing cuz it's easier on his wrists. I'm gonna be joining him soon cuz my 4 finger hand is having some issues lol.

@nodubshere6589

Жыл бұрын

That controller was just the same as the series x and s and yes it has paddles but paddles suck im my opinion in your case thats great but its kinda like those people who play inverted controls with the controller upside down

@PRWolf

Жыл бұрын

Very good point!

@pdraggy

Жыл бұрын

I have nerve problems limiting my movement, but I actually hate the remapped buttons in my Razer Wolverine TE controller because it leads me to accidentally lateralling the ball or throwing the ball away in Madden, they are just SO easy to accidentally hit in tense moments imo. Maybe it's cuz I'm used to it, but I much prefer JUST the defaults no remaps I can accidentally hit thank you!

@PlipplopReal

Жыл бұрын

Oh, how dare you, Austin. The Duke controller was one of the best, most comfortable controllers for us big-handed gamers. What you said was a tiny-handed slap in the face.

@dontbotherreading

Жыл бұрын

Sheesh Greta thunberg back in action over a new issue

@kenktheGD

Жыл бұрын

What I noticed was children had no problem with it, always found the size complaint off. Weight maybe...

@Wimmle

Жыл бұрын

Hail to the duke baby 😹

@jonathanstaples5267

Жыл бұрын

He literally acknowledged it was a good controller for big hands.

@EtemmuReborn

Жыл бұрын

I bought the newer ones and couldn't go back to the regular controller after using it for a couple days. Shame my puppies decided to tug of war the cable for it.

I think you guys honestly should have rated the Steam Controller. Yeah, it made some very questionable decisions, but it was ambitious and ended up informing the development and design of the Steam Deck.

@MaoRatto

Жыл бұрын

I had 3 of those boys and they were amazing for the time. As they had taken the scuff gamepad of the ps3 and 360 era applied custom layouts and software to them. Adding two padels should be standard!!! I see back padels on so many nintendo switch controllers and motion controls in that game which is nice.

@dacid44

Жыл бұрын

I've still got mine, and use it regularly. Probably still will for a while yet, at least until I get a steam deck. Buttons are a bit mushy and the haptics aren't amazing, but it's pretty great for playing traditionally non-controller games from the couch.

@goshdarnchicken

Жыл бұрын

Completely forgot about the Steam controller, and I agree, it should have been on here. It was odd, but it wasn't the worst thing I've ever used.

@info0

Жыл бұрын

well, judging by patents, Valve might be onto Steam Controller V2 which would be nice as I haven't got chance to buy original one on sale :(. From customizability perspective, it blast any controller on PC out of the water. You can configure it for any game, even RTS and play from couch lol. There were haptics before Sony even thought about DualSense, there were multi action adaptive triggers, you had mouse like aiming with touchpads and gyro aiming. The only complaints I could have: it wasn't exactly plug n play like Xbox controllers are, you needed to tweak the settings or download profiles for games from Steam and it only really supported Steam games only. Second complaint would be build quality which wasn't that great.

GameCube controller is one of the most comfortable controllers of all time and always will be. How could you do this putting it so low down the list?!?

@niq872

Жыл бұрын

Same thing I was thinking

Thats crazy bro, my Wii Sensor Bar never broke and still works 13 - 14 years later.

@michael1234252

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

@user-vi4xy1jw7e

Жыл бұрын

Same. I think Matt is just hard on his stuff. Lol

@michael1234252

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vi4xy1jw7e Exactly, back in the day from 2007-2011 when the Wii was super popular I've never heard about the sensor bar being prone to frailer. In the past 10 years I've had to move my Wii several times since I was moving it to another tv within the house, Moving houses, or just temporarily moving it when I was away for school. Even then I've never had it break on me.

@Polderong

Жыл бұрын

Over 10 years still working as out of the box

@michael1234252

Жыл бұрын

@@Polderong Same

IMO the Elite 2 is S tier. I get the price, but the feel is the best, the adjustable thumbsticks and resistance. The ease of swapping button layouts (especially for games where you can't change layouts). On a side note, while not a controller that comes with a system, the NES Advantage was great.

@cletuswilliams413

Жыл бұрын

Agreed for the Elite 2 controller

@MrChrisInit

Жыл бұрын

Idk, I’d have given it an S but mine is lightly used and I’m already getting stick drift on the left thumb stick and my right trigger is starting to stick. Luckily I do have cover so can get it replaced when I have chance but for £150 there or there abouts I expected better. Then again my elite 1 grips completely peeled off so it’s better than that 😂

Dreamcast controller got done dirty. However, the third party controller market for Dreamcast was awesome and my favorites were the Saturn Astropad (basis for Duke controller imo), the Mad Catz Dream Pad, and the Nyko Dream master controller. Though I also think it's funny that age and people not being born yet was brought up for the Dreamcast but not the Playstation lol.

@PatrickThomasBrady

Жыл бұрын

As a collector of controllers, I have all these third party Dreamcast controllers and they are all bad, they’re just worse feeling versions of the Dreamcast controller but with turbo or extra face buttons that duplicate l and r

@CoalitionGaming

Жыл бұрын

@@PatrickThomasBrady Meh. They were definitely not bad. Some downsides sure, but nothing is perfect. I suppose the Astro Pad had a hollow feel to it, but it was good for big hand feel, and Dream Master had a cheap feel to it but actual usage of it was fantastic especially because of built in rumble, and the Mad Catz imo took best of 1st party controller feel and third party controllers design for the best third party option.

@mat99rich

Жыл бұрын

I do agree I never had a problem with the dreamcast controller maybe C tier. The ergonomics where actually not that bad I think the rounded sides helped a lot. It was bulky but when my brother got a dreamcast the controller was just fine. Im sad that the dreamcast didn't do better because it would have been interesting to see the next evolution for sega. And I loved sonic adventures. We didn't have a memory card so we got pretty good at the first part of the game. And when we finally got a memory card the fact that it had games like the egg hatching game for sonic adventures was interesting. But on the Playstation part. A lot of people probably knew of the PlayStation since they are still around in the console space but the dreamcast was the last console for Sega so not everyone knows that Sega even made consoles unless you are in you late 20s onward.

DS3 motion control was actually really cool. In the game infamous. You had a lighting attack you could stear using it. It was rarely used and that made it a great surprise when it was.

@MaoRatto

Жыл бұрын

That style of input is on switch heavily.

Also hate the slander for xbox swappable batteries , literaly buying a 11$ energizer rechagable battery will save you lots of money and you never have to plug the controller in to charge .

@Quade-

Жыл бұрын

Xbox controllers have come with a rechargeable battery pack for like the last 5 years and you can still use AA's it's just superior

@Veticia

8 ай бұрын

Unless you find yourself with rechargeables that you forgot to charge. Rechargable controllers you can just play for 15 minutes with a cable and be set for the next few hours. Also lipo batteries make the controller much lighter that AAs.

I agree with the tier list but I don't agree with the rechargeable reasoning. Linus explained this better but with a AA battery you can easily swap it out. You can use rechargeable AA and even a battery pack. We also know that the batteries will degrade over time so built-in batteries would be a pain to swap out. I love xbox's decision to keep the battery that way but I also understand why people prefer built-in batteries.

@SparkSpace

Жыл бұрын

What Microsoft shoudl do is include their rechargable kit in the box

@heimkhal2.097

Жыл бұрын

@@SparkSpace Agreed

Would be nice for Xbox controllers to come with rechargeables but if I had to choose between rechargeable OR replaceable, I'd go replaceable. Nothing worse than a dead integrated battery, need a whole new controller at that point

@west6807

Жыл бұрын

It should be like the 360 wireless controllers where it came with detachable rechargeable battery and plugin for charging and wired mode as well as a battery cover if you where at a friends house and needed to slap some double AAs in it

In all honesty I hate the fact that there are controllers where you can't replace the battery in them because as soon as that battery can't hold a charge any longer it is literally a paper weight unless you want to turn it into a corded controller. So no controller that has batteries you can't replace should ever reach S tier. Including my beloved elite series 2 controller.

@VanDiESEL619

Жыл бұрын

this. I'll never undestand why people defend controllers with built in batteries

@ram89572

Жыл бұрын

Yep, totally with you on that one. Any controller where you need to open it up, source a proper quality replacement, and then have to put it back together is definitely worse than something where you can literally just pop off a battery door and swap out plain AAs, rechargeable AAs, or a replaceable rechargeable pack

Earlier in the vid I thought you guys said that you sort of have to look at the controller in a vacuum. As uncomfortable as the original NES controller is to hold and use for its time period it was C or low B teir for a variety of reasons, replacement cost, relatively tough construction.

I loved the 360 controller but hated the D-pad on it. So many times it would not register in the direcftion I pressed or perform multiple presses Also loved the Logitech wireless controller for the original Xbox console. The Wii Remote was great. Just hated the Motion Plus add-on for the original remote. With someone who has fairly small hand it just made it more bulky and difficult to hold in my opinion. Glad they re-released the Wii Remote with the motion plus built in.

Besides the Fisherprice look the Wii U GamePad was amazing. Sure, not every game uses the touchscreen. But it was very comfortable (especially for people with larger hands). There are games which use the GamePad for amazing features. Affordable Space Adventure, Pikmin 3, Fatal Frame, Wind Waker come to my mind.

@FinneasJedidiah

Жыл бұрын

I played nintendoland for probably hundreds of hours with friends in high school- I honestly think the Wii u as a whole is super underrated

@Devo_gx

Жыл бұрын

I would have put it at D tier; maybe C if it had actually used a capacitive touchscreen instead. Outside of this and the Dreamcast controller I’m fairly happy with this tier list.

@user-vi4xy1jw7e

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't comfortable in terms of weight.

@niccocaredda9876

Жыл бұрын

no bro that things screen is horrible, breaks with a single tap. Anybody remember the 3ds/ds big brother stylus tho?? that was pretty nice

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

Wind Waker sucked, either on the Gamecube or Wii U, a rushed game will forever be bad, even the Gamepad use on Wind Waker HD is basically non existant for that awful ocean.

The dualshock 4 will always be my favorite. I still have my og one that came with my ps4 slim in 2016 and use it almost daily. Still works and feels amazing. It was such a huge leap and had major developments compaired to older ps controllers. Still feel great to use, really responsive, looks good, and it still keeps up with todays standards.

@dinophone8084

Жыл бұрын

the problem is the triggers

@kevincorroyer101

Жыл бұрын

How lol dualshock 4 had even more drift than joycons😂 i still got my og joycons no drift. But damn i had like 15 dualshock 4 controllers always the damn drift

@ursulpolal5949

8 ай бұрын

After using a series s/x controller that came with my series s, the ds4 feels so sluggish and cheaply made .

@DonisGP

8 ай бұрын

@@ursulpolal5949 I like how it fits my hand better but I will say the buttons click and feel so crisp. I tried my friends series X and S controller since I only play PS and their controllers are definitely nice. But PS controllers fit my hand better lol

There's plusses to separate batteries also , you don't deal with failed or battery deterioration. You can buy a couple pair of rechargeable batteries and keep two on charge. Then you can just swap batteries , not the same downtime.

@NashvilleUK

Жыл бұрын

100%

@cactusmanbwl1990

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I prefer to have the option of AA's if it's available. Especially if I'm taking the controller on a trip or something with me.

"I hate the joycons, they're too small." "The Wii U is to big and unwieldy." 😂

I wish the Switch pro controller was on the list here. When joy con drift was a huge issue for me the pro controller was a huge help, it was the perfect size for a controller and it felt good to hold. I also never had a problem with it when it comes to drifting. I’d give it a solid A. The only reason I’m not giving it an S is because it was priced more than I expected it to be in my opinion and it didn’t come with the Switch.

i would put the xbox elite controller in S teir, yes its pricey, but its on sale often. And other controllers that are up to its standard and level of quality are the same price, if not way more. Plus, this controller has a couple more nice-to-have features than other controllers in its price range, and lets you stay within the ecosystem and tune the controller from your settings app.

@MrTwinii88

Жыл бұрын

Sale often and you buy one and have it for years instead of buying manny normal controllers. ^^

@frostbite3820

Жыл бұрын

Price shouldn't be considered for the elite. Its called elite for a reason. Plus there is a reason that all the enthusiasts use it. It was essentially designed so that you never want to put it down

If you included the Intellivision controller you should also have included the original Atari CX10 joystick! Not a great controller by any stretch of the imagination but thoroughly classic nontheless!

@quantumleaper

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the Colecovision, which was around with the Intellivision and Atari CX10. It's like they forgot EVERY Atari home console joystick.

@CommodoreFan64

Жыл бұрын

Seems like they need to do a round two of this, and include way more controllers. Also I agree the OG Atari CX10 stick was not great, and gives me hand cramps after 15 to 20 mins it is iconic, and did help make the DB9 port one of the most used standards in history on consoles, and home computers from the late 70's - mid 90's.

@t12121

Жыл бұрын

Agreed Where's the Atari controller? I'm thinking it should be ranked D.

@aruce9

Жыл бұрын

I have tried an intellivision controller and I really didn’t like it, the circle was mushy and awful, the regular buttons were okay but as a standin for a joystick was not good. I would rather take a 2600 controller as at least the joystick was a decent way of controlling retro games from that time period

@quantumleaper

Жыл бұрын

@@aruce9 Maybe you should try an Arari 5200 controller, which was the worst controller for ANY system I have ever used in the past 43 years. I wouldn't call the disc mushy since there was that much movement of the disc. I know since I have repaired my Intellivision controllers in the past. What I didn't like was the lip around the disc on the Intellivision controllers.

AA batteries is a plus always... you can buy rechargeable AA batteries and throw them when they die and just buy some new ones. Withe the built in battery it's way more complicated to replace it

@Ferzin400

Жыл бұрын

Also you have to play wired when the built in battery is flat, where i can recharge the flat batteries while i play with new ones in the meantime.

@Gamesta100

Жыл бұрын

Owning all 5 PS's and probably 20 controllers across all 5 and I've never had to replace a battery.

@ram89572

Жыл бұрын

@@Gamesta100 Good for you. That isn't the experience of everyone out there and also doesn't say anything about those systems in the future when one of those batteries might be 15 or 20 years old. Why defend a practice that is completely unnecessary? Oh, wait. I know why. You're just a Sony fanboy and they can never do any wrong. That's literally the only reason to defend a controller having a battery that can't be swapped out in 30 seconds.

@rikiapati8010

Жыл бұрын

@@Gamesta100 what happens when your ps3 controller's battery dies and there will be almost no replacement for it? It is an old system, so probably the availability of a new battery will drop and the price will go higher. with AA it won't be such a problem

I agree with all but the WII remote. Thats got a special place in my heart. It was a revolution for 2006 in terms for wireless controllers and the nunchuck was so awesome to have with racing games like Mario Kart and Need for Speed Pro Street

Matt be killing me with the impressions

- "I don't like the sticks on the bottom" - "Dual sense" - "Best controller evür!!!"

@a3-radio

Жыл бұрын

He did specifically said it was the features

I loved the duke controller and greatly missed it when they made the controllers smaller in later years.

couldn't agree more with this tier list. very entertaining to watch matt give austin no room for arguments ahahaha

that bit after rating the NES controller 🤣hilarious!

You guys did forget to add the Nintendo Switch Pro controller. it's more commonly used than the Joy cons

@TyGamer0426

Жыл бұрын

I never got one but I do have 2 different power A controllers

@CommodoreFan64

Жыл бұрын

I only have a Switch Lite, but I have a charge dock on my PC desk in my home office with extra USB ports, and when I'm at home I use my wired Power A controller to play with it docked, as it just feels so much better to use.

@CommodoreFan64

Жыл бұрын

@@TyGamer0426 Power A is a very solid choice for the money, and despite the rubber on the thumb stick wearing off my Power A MOGA HERO controller is still the best controller I've used for my Android Phone, and Tablet for the GTA mobile games, and emulation, plus their Wired Xbox, and Switch controllers also work really well on Linux PC without making my wallet scream.

@Authan65

Жыл бұрын

It's not more commonly used tho.

I think the Dreamcast controller deserved more credit really it was pretty ahead off its time with hall based sensors for the joystick and it had anolog triggers too

@SilverReviews

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, and it was surprisingly very comfortable and ergonomic.

@MaoRatto

Жыл бұрын

The dreamcast had a bad analog stick, was backwards on the lack of a second stick. Also the thing in the middle was annoying.

@Zer064

Жыл бұрын

@@MaoRatto The analog stick is actually pretty good. it had the feel of notches without there actually being any

This was a great idea! It would be sick if you guys made a video on the main channel reviewing all these controllers.?

Austin with the donut media shirt. 🤯 2 of my worlds colliding and I love it!!

A bit disappointed that my favorite controller of all time the Wii u pro controller didn't show up, it's like the inverse of the PlayStation where the two sticks are up top but it feels really comfortable cuz your thumb's naturally want to rest there and it's rechargeable but unlike the PlayStation it actually has a cover on the back so if the rechargeable battery dies you could buy a new one and easily put it in no need to take apart the entire controller. The only problem with it is it uses mini b which was outdated for the time but I will say at least it's more robust than micro so depending on how you look at it that could also be a good thing I've had the micro b spot on the back of my Xbox controller break before.

@beefy45

Жыл бұрын

I loved that controller

@MrFunnyman5260

Жыл бұрын

Wow I have it (the black one) and use it to this day on pc. I really really like it!! I think we're one of the few 😅

@antieatingactivist

Жыл бұрын

I've been a Nintendo kid all my life and I HATED the Wii U pro controller. Having both sticks up top was awful. They righted that wrong with the switch pro controller IMO.

@J0bix

Жыл бұрын

@@antieatingactivist each their one, I guess

@user-vi4xy1jw7e

Жыл бұрын

Switch Pro controller is better

You guys were all over the place here. The NES controller was uncomfortable but had the first Dpad that wasn't a disc on home console. The PC Engine and Sega Master System had disc dpads. The Saturn Japanese controller was the best for tons of shooters and fighters because it perfected it, the 360 Dpad was horrific, tons of points you missed. Also rechargable AAs is not a downside....?

@m3tzable

Жыл бұрын

the only reason other companies used the disc is because of nintendo protected their dpad with patents, they used them first awith game and watch. Playstation got a close second for me with there dpads

@hi_tech_reptiles

Жыл бұрын

@@m3tzable true, it was just a point not mentioned iirc

this is so funny hearing you fight about the controlers

Good list but I'd bring the Wii U up to a solid C being able to play most games on the gamepad without the need for the tv is pretty awesome and it's very light weight with decent battery

Wait, was it actually a thing where the Wii sensor bar would regularly break? I still have my very first sensor bar, and that cable has gone through some shit. This thing has survived 5 television swaps alongside 3 house changes, not to mention 4 room changes inside of that last house. It outlived the Wii that it came with, which I need to lay upside down in order for it to read discs

For the most part I agree with your list. I would move the Elite to the S tier, GameCube to A. And ill chime in with a controller that you forgot. The Wavebird. I would rank that one as a A tier

@ram89572

Жыл бұрын

I was very fond of my Wavebird. It worked well and felt good.

@saricubra2867

Жыл бұрын

Wavebird is easily S, godlike battery life and range.

From what I've heard about the quality of the pro controller I would put it lower. Maybe just one tier. The Sega controller you guys showed was the six button which was a revision of the original 3 button. Also the SNES controller did not give extra buttons (unless comparing it to the original Sega genesis). Did the 6 button ever come with a Sega. I had to buy one separate.

7:06 Matt's laugh is great 😃

Also the DualSense is GOD TIER

Great tier list

I'm on team AA batteries. Use rechargeables Great when you can hot swap batteries and it increases controller longevity. I still have my 360 controllers and use them

@casvanommeslaeghe

Жыл бұрын

that, and changing out the play and charge kit when it loses charge is easy AF as opposed to the dualshock 4

@Brain_pocketer

Жыл бұрын

@@casvanommeslaeghe It sort of future-proofs the controller, as the battery never dies, because you can literally use any set of double As

I loved how Austin dissed the Wii U gamepad lol

Built in rechargeable batteries means a lower useful life. I much prefer Xbox’s approach where a dead battery doesn’t mean a dead controller

@niq872

Жыл бұрын

i dont think so its easy to replace them , and replacement cost about the same as a pack of batteries, thought i prefer the xbox controllers better ergonomics

@PretzelWarrior

Жыл бұрын

@@niq872 ya but it's not easy enough for the general populace so the entire controller will end up as e waste but using rechargeable aa batteries in a Xbox controller just means the batteries will be swapped and you can still charge them in the controller or swap to another set without ever needing a cable.

@profosist

Жыл бұрын

What if people used a industry standard Rechargeable battery? Controllers and anything that goes through batteries quickly should use Rechargeables other wise you're going through batteries like mad.

@Cvmpbell

Жыл бұрын

@Garo ikr, comparing battery waste to plastic waste is night and day

@IPeppersI

Жыл бұрын

​@@profosist You amount you spend on batteries is many times that of a new controller in a few years lmao

Was hoping for the switch pro controller. I knew when I bought it it would be better than the joycons but holy shit it really is a great controller.

@James14OO

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its my second favourite controller ever behind the dualsense. The fact that the battery lasts such a ridiculous amount of time is great and it's really comfortable.

Great video! But come on what about all the Nintendo pro controllers? Like THE switch pro controller

Great list

Would've given GC controller A tier. It's still the go to for Smash and has lasted 4 generations

@leecroft7311

Жыл бұрын

Personally would place in B tier. Tiny d-pad, triggers... people seem to love them but still not a fan of them myself.

@MWOPPDLX

Жыл бұрын

@@leecroft7311 I'll give you that. Personally I almost never needed to use the dpad and my only complaint for the triggers would be they could be a lil firmer and have better feedback

With the amount of charge cycles that I go through in a year with my controllers, I'm quite glad Xbox controllers have the option for 3rd party battery packs with the capability to passthrough the onboard usb port for charging, so that I can swap out a bad pack once it finally dies or looses capacity without pulling apart the whole controller. With the new S controllers I have really appreciated USB-C support and the native support with pc via bluetooth with no hassles is amazing.

@m3tzable

Жыл бұрын

i never had to switch out batteries ons the Dualshock controllers in it's lifetime, its something microsoft charged extra for

@JamiePineappleWyatt

Жыл бұрын

@@m3tzable I do well over 700 cycles a year, there isnt a single lithium on the planet that can keep a controller lasting more than 15 minutes in my house after that. P.S I have plenty of DS2 and 3's that have had battery issues. Especially considering their age. You must be using yours for a max of half an hour a day if they last you "forever", mine get some real use. Besides $20 for two batteries, a charge station and easy reparability (thats a score these days, you know, with right to repair being a thing) Xbox wins for me. Sony you have to pay the same price just to get a glorified usb hub and you get no batteries at all + the wonderful experience of "Hey I played 15 minutes of Ratchet and Clank, now I have to get off because my controller went flat or I have to use the included 20cm charge cable to play"

@m3tzable

Жыл бұрын

@@JamiePineappleWyatt nah I just charged it, via wall adapter or just a longer cable. It's a standard micro usb cable unlike the 360 one. Or just change controller and charge the second one. Of course the usage per charge did go down but it wasn't that bothersome to change the battery.even with right to repair. It's super easy to change the battery if you want, I did change the shells of my ds3's though and they did get plenty of use. Minimum of 3hours a day Ds2 wasn't wireless so that's wrong, what u mean glorified hub for same price? And you did get the battery with controller, idk what you whining about.

There was a controller I remember from when I was really little called the Power Glove...I think it was even in one of the original Nightmare on Elm Street movies

13:38 Star Fox Zero also utilized the Gamepad screen, it used the screen as a cockpit view from your ship where on the main TV it was a third person view that could be used for lock on as the TV camera would follow the target, and the gamepad view showed you what was in front of your ship. Xenoblade Chronicles X also used the Wii U gamepad screen for display of the map, with the touch screen interface so you could teleport to already visited areas, and view inventory stuff. Breath of the Wild, which actually was ~developed~ on the Wii U(thank you Wii U, without you people may have never known the glory that is this game on the Switch) was capable of switching the game play to the game pad screen rather than use the TV. So in essence, the Wii U Gamepad for Breath of the Wild became a sort of mini Switch for that game.

I used to love the ps3 and subsequently the ps4 controllers for the rechargeable internal battery BUT as I've gotten older and my console collection grows I love that Xbox STILL has replaceable batteries. I have ps3 controllers that are permadead without battery replacement (which are becoming harder to find consistently) but I can toss some rechargeable AA batteries in my 360 controller and it works just the same as it always has without all that extra hassle. I hope Xbox holds its course for replaceable batteries.

@doublevendetta

Жыл бұрын

Fucking THANK YOU

You all forgot an essential S tier controller, the Wii U Pro Controller. By far the most comfortable controller I've ever held in my life. Amazing battery life (like 60 or something hours?), fantastic D-Pad, a completely new analog stick placement, which I find better that Playstation's Analog placement and amazing capability with a wide genre of games. It's a shame Nintendo didn't re-use the design for the Switch. The only downside I would say is the lack of analog triggers.

@antishulk

Жыл бұрын

i disagree a bit the buttons are kinda mushy and the stick placement is a bit more difficult imo

@bland9876

Жыл бұрын

I always found the buttons a tiny bit too easy to press but otherwise they're my favorite buttons and + shaped d-pad. The stick layout is like the steam controller but with inferior joysticks versus track pads. My perfect regular controller would be a switch pro controller with the PlayStation layout and then the buttons and d-pad from the Wii u just slightly harder to press. And make it look like the Wii u pro controller black version. Lastly make it use AA and everything else like an Xbox or 8bitdo controller.

@Middleseed

Жыл бұрын

I actually loved the fact that they switched over to the Xbox style, much more comfortable than either the PlayStation or wii u style.

my Dualsense drifted in less time than my joycons. And when I bought a second one, I felt a tiny "bump" when I move the stick to a certain direction. DS4 lasted me for years, and only 3 years in I bought a second one.

I'd add Splatoon 1 to games that made good use of the Wii U gamepad. You had the minimap there at all times and could easily click the screen to use special weapons or superjump

Blasphemy! The Dreamcast controller would be S tier if the cable was on the top.

@h0sti1e17

Жыл бұрын

It at least had the little clip. And several games took advantage of the screen/memory card.

The Series XS controller is my favorite controller ever. That Dpad is mint, and the triggers, overall feel... It's by far the most versatile.

From what I remember the Xbox S controller was the one they released in Japan and Europe and the "Duke" was the one we got in the US. If my memory is correct the "Duke" was supposed to fit the "larger" American hands. We finally got the S when the "Duke" bombed. The Boomerang controller was during the time that Sony was in a legal battle with the people who designed the Dualshock. The Dualshock 3 didn't come out at launch the Sixaxis did, until the legal dispute was resolved and they released the Dualshock 3.

I love the Donut Media t-shirt Austin has on. They should definitely be your sponors there great media for your vehicles.

Gamecube deserves A on the list. Also They never touched on Wii pro controller, Wii U pro controller, or any of the Switch controllers like power A or pro

I found the Wii u gamepad comfortable to hold, and it was nice to be able to use it as the screen so you didn't need to use the tv for it. It is a great convenience controller. But with that said, the switch is 1000% better for it's convenience, but not ergonomics.

@joester4life

Жыл бұрын

Agree. The Wii U Gamepad was a nice fit, and it wasn't heavy. I played COD a lot on it.

@SASUKE1THE1AVENGER

Жыл бұрын

@@joester4life dude, same.I played a lot of bo2 on it, it looked really good and played really well.

With our XBOX 360 remotes, we had gotten this battery pack set that gave our remotes wireless charging capabilities and it was pretty nice. Turn the console and such off and plop the remote on the included charging pad and next day you would be ready to go with now worries that your remote was dead

Agree with the classic nes controller. But got to give props to the dog bone upgrade. Should have included that one.

I agree with all of this apart from the Elite controller. I needs to be S tier. What it lacks in the PS5 haptics it makes up for in back buttons and interchangeable sticks. Its S tier.

@stonegrendel9064

Жыл бұрын

I added the Rise 4.0 buttons to the back. skip the soldering and its about a 20 minute install. It definitely improves life a bit but the Elite series 2 is still top in my book.

The battery life on the Dualsense is unforgivable. Can't be S tier when it doesn't even last through a day off work.

@MWOPPDLX

Жыл бұрын

I mean, what controller with a built-in battery can last all day? The Dual shock 4 couldn't do it. The trade off for not having to buy AA batts is you're probably gonna have to charge it if you're gonna be gaming all day. I personally don't have that luxury, even on my days off.

@Hyperion1112

Жыл бұрын

Just keep it charged while you play

@orangecroc

Жыл бұрын

I don't want to keep having to sit next to the PS5 to charge it.

@orangecroc

Жыл бұрын

That's my point. At least I can have battery packs on charge and swap them quickly instead of having to be stuck sitting next to the console with a wire attached.

@MWOPPDLX

Жыл бұрын

@@orangecroc unless you're constantly pulling 6+ hr sessions, the battery life shouldn't be an issue. As long as you remember to charge it between sessions you should be fine.

Love the size of the 360 analog sticks, I have the eliete 2 and they feel good of course but I like the bigger surface area of the 360.

Yoooo Austin reppin the donut shirt 👌

The xboner controller has quickly become my favorite ergonomically, but the sticks are WAY too loose imo. A lot of people when they came out would send them out to get the thumbstick tension increased so they were more similar to the 360, thats my ONLY issue with them

@yeetyeet5079

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they were responding to complaints that the 360 sticks were too stiff

@BigMan7o0

Жыл бұрын

@@yeetyeet5079 idk why people would complain about that, all lowering the tension achieved was lowering accuracy in any game that uses the thumb sticks in any capacity

@yeetyeet5079

Жыл бұрын

I mean some people like children have weaker thumbs

@BigMan7o0

Жыл бұрын

@@yeetyeet5079 I was pretty damn young when I started gaming and didn't have an issue. Probably too young tbh, I started playing games with my dad on his Xbox 360 at like 8 maybe, and had already been playing worms with him and my mom on the ps2 every once in a while for a year or so Edit: correction, I started playing worms on ps2 around 7 or 8, and played 360 at 9 or 10. Pretty sure mw3 was the first 360 game I played not long after it came out, which was 2011

@yeetyeet5079

Жыл бұрын

@@BigMan7o0 im just saying maybe some people said the 360 sticks were too stiff or Microsoft used different sticks for another reason like cost

I really like the dreamcast controller, it's surprisingly comfortable, and its layout is pretty good IMO same can be said about the duke controller.

@jimmymyers

Жыл бұрын

It handled Crazy Taxi's wonky steering better than the controllers I've used to on my pc to emulate it.

The DREAMCAST VMU was amazing for 1 thing, playing NFL 2K against a friend!! If you were both together the VMU would show the plays to choose from...Every other football game ever since you always can see which 3 plays your opponent is choosing from, making it somewhat predictable.

@TheBadGuuy

Жыл бұрын

GO BILLS! 🎉

11:44 - I still have my original sensor bar from my Wii that I got in 2008, which still works. And I did not take good care of that Wii, honestly.

I'm definitely in the minority here, but I absolutely hate the adaptive triggers on the Dualsense. I try every game with it, and then turn it off. I just haven't found a game that I thought was enhanced by it. I could see GT7 being different due to feeling your tires lose traction or brake lockup, but I refuse to buy that dumpster fire.

@KagatoAsuka

Жыл бұрын

Have you played Returnal?

@Slamcrash

Жыл бұрын

I think try setting them to be weaker. I found them extremely tiring with Ratchet & Clank but after I turned them down it was great

@casmithh

Жыл бұрын

I think spider-man is a good subtle one.

The Xbox elite 2 is the best controller. I had both versions I like the weight of the elite ones. It’s the offset sticks that make me like the Xbox controllers the best. I have not tried a PS5 Duelsence (I think I butchered that one) I think I would like it.

Love the List! Only thing I'd change is the PS4 controller with GameCube controller.

11:58 Casual fingernail particle throw 💀🤣💀

Removable AAs are a feature not a bug, and I'm tired of having to try and DEFEND that.

@thatdixierasta

Жыл бұрын

amen

are you grading it for the controler or how much it cost

what is the dinosaur robot thing behind you on the shelf. Is it rare or do u just like it

9:12 WHHAATT, ''C'' ? are out of your mind, my hands have the controller shaped into

I would put the most innovative controllers higher in the list personally because they’re pushing or pushes the gaming industry forward such as the Dreamcast, Nintendo Wii etc.

Actually, ZombieU made a good use of the WiiU controller and it was terrifying to have to manage shit on the backpack while you were able to see the zombies coming at you on the TV

dissing the wii u gamepad is the one thing you never do

Austin with the donut media shirt 🔥🔥🔥🔥

During lockdowns I beat Simpsons Hit and Run with the Duke. I had no issues with it.

I rate the Duke highly. I'd say that the feel of the controller is large but, for those with larger hands it's extremely snug. I love the way I feel like my trigger fingers are covered, it's like my hands are strapped into their own cockpit. How ever unless you can claw grip/use claw grip good luck being as effortless as a modern Xbox controller. For me if you change the right thumb stick and maybe the travel time/ responsiveness of the stick it would be probably my perfect controller

So why did you not do the OG saturn or genesis controller?

I think one thing people don't really think about with the controller arguments is that one person's comfort may not be the same as someone else's and I'm glad they are mentioning that. I'm disabled and my hands are smaller, the only controller I can physically use is the DualShock 4. I had been using it with an adapter called the Titan 2 that allows me to use the Xbox Adaptive Controller in combination with the DS4. Then the PS5 decided DS4 isn't usuable with PS5 games UNLESS you use Remote Play which is is what I've had to do. I like what the DualSense can do but I cannot hold it whatsoever at all.

What’s up with the severed foot on the table behind you🤣🤣🤣

Gotta defend the NES pad, but not based on pure nostalgia - beyond those square corners was a D-pad and pair of action buttons that were amazingly responsive and perfectly accurate when compared to any other controller that had come before. The followup hacky rounding on the SNES dogbone was absolutely bested by the Genesis pad's ergonomics, but in the 8-bit set, the NES was just awesome.

The eternal controller struggle if the the joysticks on the same plane or offset, and I think mainly comes down to what you learned first. I was introduced to dual joysticks with the og dualshock and to this day I can spend 5-8 hours moderately/vigorously gaming and feel no fatigue on my dualsense or ds4, whereas a four hour session on the Xbox one controller can leave my wrist sore / tense. I think they are both fantastic designs, and I think the elite control is the best premium controller avaible, but I think third party premium controllers like the Raiju ps4 design is not far behind it

I want to see you two do a Wu-Tang Clan Ranking

The back button's for the Dual Shock 4 is very useful.

I would have liked for you to rank the Atari 2600/5200/7800 controllers (since you did Intellivision) & the NES “dogbone” but otherwise great list.

I almost did a spit take at "wire is thinner than my will to live"

Surprised you didn’t go over any of the attachments for the Wii like the classic controller, or the 10 other things, oh and the pro controllers for the Wii U/Switch.

The saturn analog controller is surprisingly comfortable it feels amazing in hand

My ONLY gripe with the 360 controller nowadays is that it just feels stiff. The buttons and dpad are fineish but could be improved, but the sticks are so hard to move, the triggers feel like they have so much tension behind them the more I squeeze But I love the size of it all, big buttons, wide thumbpads on the sticks, dpad in the shape of a wheel instead of the default plus design used for the Xbox one, liked it all so much, I ordered a parts kit for my one controller (and now recently elite 2) and at the time swapping out the dpad cover with the circle one and using 3rd party stick extensions. Big thumb problems lol.

No love for the OG Atari joystick or the in box Saturn controller?

I so disagree with you guys about counting AA batteries as a negative, I've got a dead dual shock 4 because the battery doesn't keep a charge (have to have it plugged into a power bank to use it) but I just put a new pair of rechargeable AA battery in my Xbox 360 controller and it's still good)